Brianna Maitland Disappearance Analysis | Car Found Crashed Into House

[@djcastano1180]

The doc is like the Bob Ross of true crime. So calm, so cool, so collected. I wouldn’t be surprised if he referred to a case as a happy little accident here and there.

[@Tindometari]

"And be sure to make your crimes happy little crimes."

[@cyonu5675]

I’m sure we all commit happy little accidents every now and then

[@astoldbytheolyn4382]

🤣

[@amyfay5791]

I hope the good doc has a less controversial private/personal life ....surely he does

[@tlalcua]

🤣🤣🤣👏

[@rbrianjones]

I’ve been following this case for a while. I’m not sure who, but I feel she was sitting, parked in the car with her killer, who she knew. It was cold so the car was running. The killer strangled her to death. During the struggle, she put the car in reverse and floored the gas, causing it to back into the house. I even think she did this intentionally as a desperate, last ditch attempt to stop what was going on (the strangling). The person killed her, removed and ultimately disposed of her body. As for who did it. It could have been the drug dealers. Perhaps that’s who she saw at the mall, and made an arrangement to meet them later. Seems like many people thought it was them. Could also be possible that the “boyfriend” and the jealous girl was involved. There are a few famous cases of this exact thing happening. Of course I’m not diagnosing anybody, only speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this.

[@sdsurfgirl60]

Good theory. Suicide wouldn't be my first option. Her behavior and mood seemed relatively stable. There wasn't a suicide note. I've also heard that people want to be found and don't take off their glasses typically during suicide. I'd love to know if that last bit of info is true. I wear glasses and I can't imagine removing them, as if it's on my mind while I'm killing myself. ... "just speculating on what could be happening in a situation like this"

[@timrobinson6573]

I think it was the drug dealers as well. Rumors can often be very revealing and a lot of people in the town suspected the drug dealers. I think she got off work from the diner. Had cash in her pocket from the tips she made. Met her drug dealers at a locally known location, the Dutchburn house. Something went wrong and she was killed, beaten or kidnapped. Maybe she owed them money or maybe she was trying to buy drugs and they tried to rob her.

[@smirks1014]

@@timrobinson6573 I agree with most of what your saying. But, she was dishwasher that evening at that restaurant, so no tips there. At her other job the next day she was a waitress. Maybe I'll get others thinking 🤔

[@tvdv3416]

I'd like to dispell a few myths. 1) Suicides frequently occur without the victim leaving a note. Often, they are trying to avoid exposure. 2) Dishwashers get tipped out by the waitstaff. They are an integral component of a functioning restaurant, but seldom are respected enough by the owner (one of the least integral components) to be paid a reasonable wage, leaving that burden to be dependent on the kindness of people dependent on the kindness of strangers. 3) I must preface this by acknowledging that no one in this thread brought this up. Rather it was Dr. Grande himself who said it. A dedicated practitioner of Aikijusjutsu or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is absolutely equipped to defend themselves against multiple attackers who may or may not exceed them in height and weight. There are many styles of Aikijusjutsu but they all share a few common traits. a) They are taught solely from the defensive point of view. b) Rather then pit the practitioners muscles against their attackers muscles where the person with the most muscles will likely win, jujutsus pit the attackers joints, where we are all equally vulnerble, against the practitioners core and hip muscles, the strongest sections of our musculature. This is accomplished by exploiting the vulnerabilities of our skeletal anatomy through a combination of geometry, kinesiology, trigonometry, leverage and the neurology of both the attacker and the practitioner, exploiting the primitive nature of the fight-or-flight mode of thinking. The efficiency of the techniques ensure maximum results for minimal effort. c) They are all extremely strong medicine. IMHO, she made the conscious decision not to fight the girl in parking lot because she did not want to go jail. Because they are a defensive art, the principles of receiving, blending with, amplifying, concentrating and returning the energy given by the attackers initial attack means that bones and joints get snapped with ease, usually in a way that makes a complete recovery unlikely. "I threw a punch and then as if by magic, I was slammed upon the earth in a way I had never experienced before. " is a common sentiment expressed by people after their first encounter.

[@lynncrf]

@@tvdv3416 Do you think she didn't try to defend herself against her attackers then?

[@davidwolkovitz4284]

Couldn’t help but notice how the bricks in the background align almost perfectly with the profile picture at the end of the video. It could have been that Dr. Grande has done it unintentionally, but we all know by now his good ‘ol dry humor it will be safe to assume it was very intentional position of these bricks. That was my analysis on Dr. Grande’s brick laying Theory, I hope you enjoyed this comment.

[@Camustang]

The alignment is far from perfect, look at the top right :P

[@agostinodublino1387]

Dr Grande is purrrrrfect

[@axer3515]

The brick laying was in your humor.

[@bthomson]

I see what you did there.

[@jotrutch]

You forgot to put an ad in the middle of your comment

[@BrisLS1]

Yes, weighing in at a Buck Ten, she wouldn't have had much of a chance against say Ed Kemper at 6-9'' and 275 pounds. The whole jujitsu thing is a fad for many people, that just like to be a part of a movement. I went to Karate class at my gym, and asked what to do if cornered by 2 attackers in a bar. The instructor said, "do not go to bars". Thanks for another great video.

[@MasterMalrubius]

It really comes down to where she trained. If it was a McDojo where the idea is just to have fun then I agree. But even someone who is 110 should be able to keep from being carried away from someone who isn't huge if they trained at a competent gym. And yeah, the best advice is to stay away from trouble. If not, avoid getting involved when the trouble starts. If you cannot get away then don't try to calm them down. The moment they close distance you have to act. Of course that doesn't help if they have a gun or a knife, obviously. Especially if this woman is far away from anyone else.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@MasterMalrubius You are delusional. Some BJJ might help if she was up against someone her own size and sex, but an average man will be able to overpower something like 90% of women, and even more of her petite stature. It's just basic physics, just as Dr. Grande suggested. The Hollywood 'kickass female' trope has damaged people's idea of what women can do in a fight against a man. She would have been much better off with a 9mm CCW.

[@RepentfollowJesus]

Well, training to be a police officer gives some great ways for petite women to handle pretty big guys. Krav Maga would help. Best thing is learn to use a pistol and keep it on you.

[@glorifieduniverse5313]

I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about. BJJ is one of few martial arts where weight gaps aren’t that big of a handicap especially if she was facing someone with no training. I would roll with people 60lbs heavier on the daily and technique wins over brute strength 9/10. Weight can only get u so far in BJJ. If their were multiple attackers though she would have no chance

[@glorifieduniverse5313]

I think the people saying “a heavier person can beat a trained BJJ martial artist” never really trained BJJ. One of the first rules you learn is that weight advantages don’t really matter in BJJ. I’ve seen 140lb women tap out 210lb trained brown belts. This is not uncommon. Many BJJ competitions do t have weight classes because weight isn’t that big of a deal. Actually they prefer you not to lift weights and gain weight so you use technique. Now it does matter how much training Brianna has , but if her assailant was untrained or unarmed she could easily catch him. She could fight off her back

[@miekehugo1712]

I have such respect for Dr Grande. In addition to being a real, certified expert on mental health topics, he is one of the few content creator that list their sources in the description.

[@jedsall00]

Romance and geometry, yet again the the good Dr. treats us to another round of succinct analysis and top shelf, witty dry humor.

[@heatherb2762]

Being from VT, and growing up in the county she lived in, I often think about this case and how Brianna has never been found. Every once in a while it gets brought up, but haven’t heard anyone talk about her in years. Thank you for your thoughtful analysis. It’s so sad the family never got answers/justice for Brianna.

[@414violence]

If you're from there what do you think happened?

[@OpeScuseMeLetMeSneakPastYa]

Dr. Grande’s sense of humor is a national treasure!!! Love it!

[@bthomson]

🇺🇸🏆💎

[@chloel.8007]

Lol yes the romance and geometry joke made me play that back because I was like, No he did not just say that lol 😆

[@haleyw5677]

trust me as someone with chronic migraines, no one would willingly leave their migraine medication behind

[@iwatchtoomuchtruecrime]

AMEN!

[@tvdv3416]

Especially if they experiencing anxiety and/or dark thoughts. But, if someone took her they likely would not have thought to collect medication.

[@juliemarshall7913]

@Haley W. I worked with a young lady who suffered Migraines. And she described them as if someone was pooring boiling water on her head. I felt so bad for her. 😔

[@joanndrab2657]

@@tvdv3416 oo o p LP 99999 Op

[@tvdv3416]

@@joanndrab2657 good point

[@sheltonchang9220]

the whole, "moving out at 17 to be closer to friends" thing is really strange.

[@kingayy9267]

Sounds like she didn't get along with her parents.

[@TWH442]

Yeah most people move out from 16 onwards, so to move out at 17 isnt strange at all. Not everyone waits to save up money for a house deposit or whatever some people move out as soon as they can to be independent.

[@willywokeup9112]

There is absolutely nothing in Vermont in that area, im from there, theres NOTHING to do.

[@christopherhome3444]

In 2004, the “on your own at 18” idea was still pretty popular. The COL-to-income ratio was still on the favorable side of that ideology in most of the US. Today, that idea is mostly unsound from an economic standpoint. But we’re talking about 18 years ago. I don’t think it was that bizarre she wanted to move out when she did.

[@All_that_glitters_]

I don't think that's strange at all, just in a hurry to grow up & be independent. & considering she lived in a bum fuck area where there's really nothing to do, I can see her wanting to move away

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

I been following this case, Maura Murray, Phylicia Thomas, Steven Koecher and several others for over a decade. The picture of her car smashed into that old creepy Dutchburn Place is SO hauntingly creepy.

[@scottdavidson526]

Yes. That picture is what I found so intriguing about this case. It's just so damn creepy.

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

@@scottdavidson526 it almost shows there was some kind of violent altercation and she likely crashed crashed backwards into the house. There were personal items of hers found strewn about the grass around the car too if memory serves. Some of the leads of her body being dismembered seem likely it's just a question of if she overdosed or was murdered and it seems murder is way more likely unfortunately (due to the car)

[@lizp637]

Always like your podcasts Dr Grande...even before I've listened to them...because I'm never disappointed.... and like your soothing voice 😊

[@Room-uc5se]

I love them too but I always fall asleep about 15 mins into them lol.

[@lizp637]

Me too! I work nights and listening to him helps me drift off in a morning 😊

[@janedmunds4218]

I've also always liked how he says, at the beginning, "If you enjoy this video, please Like..." So considerate. Some people actually tell you to Like before you view. Now, of course, I know I'll like his work, and so give the thumbs up before I watch. Thanks, Dr. G, as always.

[@Edward-xw8rj]

Elderly brothers who lived in the house previously were assaulted in a home invasion. I believe it was 1986. Two perpetrators were arrested and given stiff sentences. The brothers never recovered and eventually Sold their cattle and ceased farming.

[@1978mackdaddy]

Yes, Bad things happened in and around that house

[@Rasputin443556]

Something tells me that Dr. Grande has had a less-than-good time driving through New Jersey. Amazing burn!

[@rebbel67]

And this was not the first time. Or the second.

[@rtyria]

New Jersey drivers are notorious - and have been for generations. I still blame the retirees from NYC who never learned to drive until after retiring and moving to New Jersey. Which reminds me of a true story about one such retiree (whom I'll call Lenny). Lenny and his wife usually had breakfast at the local café. After several days absence the other regulars asked one of Lenny's friends if he knew where he was, as they hadn't seen him driving around for awhile. "Oh, his wife's sick," was the answer. "That's terrible, but he can still come for breakfast." Then Lenny's friend explained that Lenny relied on his wife to let him know what traffic was ahead and where to turn, etc. as he couldn't see. They never realized he was blind as his driving was no different than any other New Jersey driver.

[@bthomson]

My brother lives in Boston. Of course he does!

[@rtyria]

@@deadmanswife3625 Hey uncle Lenny, I mean no disrespect.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

I used to drive on the NJ Turnpike to NYC. It was common to see cars in flames on the shoulder, or other catastrophic accidents. The famous mathematician John Nash and his wife (from the movie A Beautiful Mind) was killed in NJ by a negligent cab driver.

[@annaheff7332]

Dr Grande's asides about cars and guns are always entertaining.

[@clarissawood7285]

Ever since I started following Dr. Grande I’m always diagnosing people (in my thoughts)

[@RealmCenter40]

Can you explain it all?

[@clarissawood7285]

@@RealmCenter40 took me a second! Lol been a few years

[@djcastano1180]

You’re just speculating

[@juliestrom412]

😆

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

This a very sad and scary case. She was young and like many people of her age, she was trying to make something good with her life. It’s so sad she didn’t have a chance. Thank you for the thoughtful analysis Dr. Grande.❤️

[@eadweard.]

The crack possibly didn't help.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@JJones987 It definitely doesn’t help, there was a big lack in judgment that’s for sure. Although those factors put people at a greater risk, it does not always ends up in murder and/or disappearances. Some people are able to clean up their acts and lead a productive life. Since she was only 17, I think there was a chance that she could revert her situation. But she had no chance…😕

[@cottontails9003]

Rejane, we had a case like this in Australia. A teenager, when missing, the boyfriend was a person of interest, but the police couldn't find her. Eventually they got a seach warrant, they found the girl hiding in his home. The public, were outraged.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@cottontails9003 What?!😳 My goodness, what a case! I can totally understand the outrage from the public.

[@bthomson]

Maybe a good question was whether she was hiding FROM something? Just a thought.

[@user-cs1un6sp1wRennata]

It's so frustrating when we don't know for sure what exactly happened to her and where the body is...It's also very sad too.Thank you for the excellent analysis Dr. Grande.

[@RatBikerNotts]

Anyone else find Dr Grande's funny lines hilarious? Like with the melting camera line in this video, the deadpan (a.f) delivery and unexpectedness floors me. I look forward to it in every video because I never see it coming.

[@bthomson]

Hate to nit pick but not every video(most yes!). Some are too tragic.😓

[@caseyw.6550]

There are multiple comments like this on nearly every single video, so, no, it's not just you. 😁

[@mattmutz9279]

I would love to see him do a stand up act

[@helenlauer9545]

sometimes he makes me laugh out loud, when I'm listening to his videos while doing other things -- such unexpected remarks. he's wonderfully refreshing, yes. fantastic deadpan.

[@Magdalene777]

Thank you! I asked for this. Your analysis sounds spot on. This case is so disturbing because whoever did this is still out there.

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

Yayy!! Coffee with Dr Grande! Its going to be a perfect day, now! Thank you doctor!!

[@lonerebeI]

Definitely think someone who personally knew Brianna took her and killed her elsewhere. Justice for her and her loved ones I hope they will catch whomever did this finally🙏🏽

[@davel7014]

I agree. What's weird in so many of these cases, is they never find a body.

[@lonerebeI]

@@davel7014 Right, just tragic smh

[@simoncullum5019]

@@davel7014 during the search for Gabby Petito didn't they find a number of bodies ?

[@davel7014]

@@simoncullum5019 Yes. I believe it was eight or nice other missing people, and they weren't even looking for those people!

[@NovaandthePastapup]

I can't deal with your dry humor randomly in your videos! It makes my day! Thank you so much for all your hard work

[@steelcurtain187]

I always found this case very interesting and kind of haunting with the image of the car and the house

[@CarolineBearoline]

Romance and geometry, the two main fuel sources for deadly consequences ☠️

[@linak7155]

👍 The law of unintended consequences at work..

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@linak7155 Whoever took Brianna intended exactly the consequences that happened. Those thugs she was involved with no doubt took her. I read they pimped girls and did all kinds of nasty stuff.

[@JosephLupoli]

Thank God I have a math disability then! Ha!

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

Great way to describe a love triangle!

[@thesongbird2383]

Dr. Grande, the humor you sneak into your opinions is like a treasure hunt for me... I look for it, but you always surprise me. You're simply delightful!

[@OGitGirlJess]

Her poor mother 😞💔🙏 This is a heartbreaking story. If she indeed did meet foul play I pray she is now at peace, something that certainly seemed to evade her during her time on earth. 🕊

[@feiticeiras]

As a New Jersey resident, your comments about the driving are extremely true. 🤣

[@nancysuxs5774]

Growing up in the actual area where she disappeared and being the same age as her when it happened, really shook me. Very confident that the two drug dealers had something to do with it. There's no lights on our roads or in the Black Lantern Inn parking lot. The car was old - you could probably get into it easily. I think someone waited for her in the back of the car and attacked her when she was driving. The tip off about her being in Berkshire at their apartment always made sense to me. The cops around here aren't the top brass and I'm sure there was a lot of mistakes made. Early 2000s is when hard drugs really started to take a foothold in Northern VT - we attracted a lot of serious street dealers to a rural farm town because of the once ease access to Canada. There are and were a lot of transients, but they had their names and address and still don't have their DNA to compare, which seems unacceptable. I feel she's right under our noses somewhere - we just need to keep looking, literally. Also, they could have dumped her in a 'shit pit ' - they don't freeze in the winter and March would def have been liquid. Seems like the best place to get rid of someone, but no one checked.

[@jada9655]

They did, in fact, drain the pit in question, but didn’t find anything in it other than a tablesaw, which was eye turning in itself, but they didn’t search anymore after that

[@nancysuxs5774]

@@jada9655 how do you know this?

[@414violence]

​@@nancysuxs5774he doesn't he made that up

[@courtneyderouen]

@@414violence*she

[@Mia-lo8fg]

Great and very intersting analysis. Beautifully and sensitivily put together. Thanks Dr Grande I always enjoy and look forward to videos.

[@KimberlyLetsGo]

It does seem similar, on many fronts, like Maura Murray's disappearance. I can't remember if Maura left all her belongings in her car. I do know she took money from her ATM. Very disturbing and sad for both families involved.

[@EvilxSausage]

Dr. Grande, you mentioned the Maura Murray case, which is one I've been following for some time. Could you do a video about that one?

[@maureeningleston1501]

I wonder if this will go unsolved just like Maura Murray's case, there's an eerie similarity.

[@damnmuggle]

It is unsolved

[@kingayy9267]

@Naty Gonzalez There have been breakthroughs in cases that happened decades ago, thanks to genealogy databases and cold case detectives running old DNA samples through the system.

[@jaxbutterfly9186]

Wow, I don't really miss being young. That's so messed up. Poor kids.

[@tlalcua]

“If the house had been named Dutch Fire Resistant perhaps the outcome would have been different” 😂😂

[@andreakoroknai1071]

I read this just as he said it :)

[@taylor11111]

she died…

[@Richard-lh3te]

I think it’s most likely that she got involved with the wrong people and met foul play

[@beeimaginative]

Grande 1, Jersey 0. It seems curious that her family was not alarmed when she left home at 17 without finishing school if “everything was ok at home”.

[@jada9655]

She Got her GED and had two jobs. I don’t know really relevant in the scheme of things in my personal opinion. If he realized how desolate and far away things were, I understand the whole move out thing you might not agree with it but I think it’s a difference in class cause this is rural Vermont. You’re talking about nothing to do especially she grew up on a farm in the middle of nowhere so I don’t think that’s really relevant.

[@errorsofmodernism9715]

I'm guessing that it was some type of minor drug transaction which devolved into an attempted escape on her part, followed by a subsequent robbery/rape/murder/ burial in the woods

[@thebluehotel426]

I recall, after listening to a podcast, that the girl who hit Brianna at a party was the most likely suspect. She's obviously vicious and possessive. She could have taken it further that night when Brianna was driving alone and wouldn't be missed for a while.

[@christinehutchins123]

I think anyone in fear for their life might accidentally hit the gas while car was in reverse...or simply back up too fast and hit the house. Regardless of driving experience. She must have backed up pretty fast to end up with the wheels over the foundation of the house. Too bad because she might have gotten away otherwise. I hope the family of both Maura and Brianna get answers .

[@414violence]

The Maura case has a much easier and more plausible explanation. This is different

[@shaundrarobinson251]

Could you analyze the case of author Agatha Christie's disappearance and memory loss? Thanks for providing such interesting content!

[@bthomson]

Saundra - Just a thought on this subject - she had just found out that her husband was in love with someone else and I don't think she could stand staying in the same house with him or discuss her feelings right then. She also had a young daughter and probably didn't want to break down in front of her. Just needed time to grieve and collect herself. I don't think she ever talked about this when she finally got back?

[@bthomson]

Sorry Shaundra!

[@scottdavidson526]

I am so glad you're discussing this case. It has never been solved to this day.

[@nightwood4379]

Good morning Dr. G…a great day to listen to your knowledgeable catalogue of cases. Thank you.

[@cosmiqshy8941]

Thanks Dr. Grande, for keeping these cold stories/cases in the light. Feel so sad for families like hers. No answers & time dragging on. Like life in prison but worse because your child is gone & you have no answers. It’s too tragic to take. 💔😣

[@spivackl]

For anyone who likes the "starting a new life" theory on cases like this: NO ONE starts a new life, on foot in the middle of the Vermont woods in winter by leaving their car, id and meds behind.

[@mckav2358]

Theory number 4..'Brianna was attacked by 1 or more assailants that were known to her, maybe as part of a drug deal gone bad or some romance based disagreement'***** Poor poor girl, may her killers be brought to justice

[@RealmCenter40]

I’m only speculating Grande is a big Toaster Strudels fan.

[@RealBradMiller]

I'm not diagnosing you, but I am going to write a prescription for raspberry Toaster Strudels for you...

[@nickyblue4866]

Whp doesnt like toaster strudels. Those things are so good! I think I'll buy some tmr.

[@clootscalhoun9481]

Good, bc you and I would have a problem if you were diagnosing him

[@RealmCenter40]

@@clootscalhoun9481 Of course things just wouldn’t be right in the universe if I didn’t ask what kind of problems we are talking about here? Had I had insisted (accused?) Grande of having a Toaster Strudel addiction issue what would we be looking at?

[@bthomson]

Forty paces and dueling swords at high noon!

[@tottenhamhotspurish]

Whoever killed her was extremely close to her IMO! It seems she was terrified when she tried escaping and that’s why she reversed into the house. I highly imagine she was scared because the person (s) who was trying to get her were known for violence. I’ve got a feeling two men played the part in her death. Or a man and a woman.

[@mistrjt9213]

A healthy, capable teen girl working as a dishwasher… 🤦🏻‍♂️ Go to school, y’all. AT LEAST finish high school and AT LEAST consider college. You don’t want *both* your paychecks totaling 150 bucks. 💁🏻‍♂️

[@Giantshredder]

One does not simply experiment with crack.

[@Tindometari]

First time is an experiment. Second time might be a fluke. Third time makes a pattern.

[@Giantshredder]

@@Tindometari Meth and Crack live in the same boat. Hit that pipe once...99% will hit it again...and again...and again.

[@marshallaustin7138]

I live in the same town she went missing in and grew up in . It's very shady how the place her car was parked , a few years ago burned down at night suspiciously. It didn't make the news but it was very creepy

[@stevenguegens7047]

I bet you that drugs were involved somehow

[@stevenguegens7047]

I bet you All that drugs played some sort of role in All of this unfortunate case

[@414violence]

​@@stevenguegens7047drug deal is how they lured her to the house and got her to open her car door for one of the assailants

[@alyssalaurenmapes4228]

I really hope that Dr. Grande is taking care of himself, because his upload consistency and content quality, is top tier. I genuinely love this main with my whole soul. 10/10 the most stable thing in my life right now

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

I'm sorry things aren't better. Stay away from drug dealers and thugs!

[@kellinicole1983]

Seems like In cases like this, the guilty will talk about it to someone, hopefully whoever they talk to will turn them in, and give her family some answers.

[@caseyw.6550]

It's been a long long time. 😕 But hopefully!

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@caseyw.6550 Yeah it's been 16 some odd years, almost as long as her much-abbreviated life. At this point the only thing that might secure a conviction would be DNA, but without a body and significant additional evidence there's no way they could make a case. This case will likely remain unsolved forever and the killers are out there doing who knows what other evil.

[@414violence]

​@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017or the killers are already dead themselves or incarcerated for something else. More than 1 person knows something. The biggest thing would be finding the remains they just put out a new $40k reward

[@sisken12]

I tend to think it was a drug deal gone bad. Or, she owed money for drugs, and someone wanted to collect.

[@MasterMalrubius]

You cannot collect money from someone who is dead. Unless she was killed "to prove a point" then it doesn't make sense. Losing money is bad, going to prison for life is much worse. Since there was not blood at the scene I don't see that it would have been a rage killing over the money. If she was killed to make a point about paying money back then I would expect others to know as a point was being made. My money is on someone in her group, such as the girl who hit her, talked someone into helping get rid of her.

[@Moodboard39]

@@MasterMalrubius is drug related, thats why she went to the car, or her friends trying to set her up dummy

[@414violence]

Unless they owed her money (that's a real motive) and that's why she agreed to meet them alone at night. Her paychecks were in the car uncashed. FBI said the car looked staged to appear as an accident. After they pulled her out (her broken necklace near the car) they crashed the car. Just a matter of time until her remains are found

[@SimbolicProductions]

@@414violenceor she crashed the car trying to back up and escape

[@414violence]

@@SimbolicProductions looks staged and that's what the FBI says they probably got her out at gunpoint then crashed it to make it look like a random accident

[@gj4257]

“The combination of geometry and romance- mainly a love triangle…” 😁 Love it!!! Dr. G, I envy all your younger viewers. I wish I had someone brilliant like you to watch and learn from back when I was a teen and young adult. It would have saved me a lot of angst and helped me develop into a more logical and analytical person. (I’m sure others my age feel the same). But it’s never too late! I’m making up for lost time by learning so much from you today. Thank you for teaching your wisdom to all of us across all ages! 🙌

[@georgehart8879]

What convinces me that it was somebody she knew who was to be her murder was what her mother reports about when they were shopping together. The mother reports that something appeared to catch her daughter's attention while see was looking out through the store's window. Her daughter then left the store, after telling her mother that she would come back. Though her daughter did not come back in the store, she was standing by the car when her mother came out. The mother noticed that her daughter had become somewhat agitated at some point after leaving the store, but, looking around, the mother did not see anything that should have caused her to be agitated. It is hard for a child to get much past a loving, caring mother. And they had just had a good day shopping together before this moment. Little did the mother know that these rather mild signs were prodromal to a, most likely, deadly end for her daughter. For the night of that same day, her daughter disappeared.

[@nicholaswoods4055]

She left the store to go get crack from her dealers

[@fernfreeman1729]

@@nicholaswoods4055 It looks like that, drug deal gone bad, it's clear she tried to get away, the car got stuck. She caught and driven away quickly.

[@414violence]

​@@fernfreeman1729or they planned on kidnapping her and used the drug deal as a way to get her to meet at the barn. She unlocked her car door to a person who would then pull out a gun and order her out and they took her from there directly to the place they'd kill her and dispose the body at.

[@414violence]

Crazy to think if the mom had asked her what happened at the store it could've solved this case. Must of been somehow related to what happened to her when she got off work

[@gloriaelmore9092]

Wow, you're getting close to the one million mark! Congratulations! Sadly, I agree with your analysis. I too think theory number four is probably what happened.

[@RR-lv3tp]

I've followed this case, for years. It being so eerie, and in the same region I'm from. Her killers are Nathaniel Jackson and Ramon Ryans... I believe that 100%. She more than likely, saw one of them earlier In the day, and they were pressing her for owed money. Ramon is free, living in NYC to this very day. If anyone wants to know more, there's an episode on the show Disappeared called lost in Vermont

[@brianf1132]

Good one Doc. As someone from PA, we also can't stand when them Jersey drivers bring their reckless driving across the bridge.

[@bthomson]

I can't help but wish that parents would push harder to find out what is happening with their children! If her mom had really questioned her about what happened outside the store this might not have happened. Just a thought.

[@Catlily5]

Maybe, maybe not. If it involved drug dealers probably not.

[@trentbrownstone1481]

Yeah that's crazy

[@414violence]

The mom would've solved the case if she would've gotten that information because whatever happened at the store was probably somehow related to what happened when she got off work

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

Doctor Grande, please raffle off all of your old shirts! (I have dibs on the yellow one with the black buttons!) 😆

[@matthewshemeth9095]

I love the blue one with the white details

[@dianamarie5663]

His shirts are magic. When he gives them to Goodwill an alien lizard person shows up wearing one and speaking just like Dr. Grande.

[@eadweard.]

While I now understand your fondness for the yellow one, it is from the bad old days when he used to buy ones where the fit was presumably labelled "Hospital Gown". The recent ones are much sharper.

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

@@dianamarie5663 omg! Haha! That was so cute! Bless your heart, sweetie!

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

@@eadweard. omg that actually did make me laugh out loud! 🤣 When you go to his website, there are full body pix of him, and his suits are too big too! Haha .. awww Dr Grande is such a cutie pie! (can you believe he owns another business besides this, plus the 4 books he wrote, his patreon, his speaking gigs, his private clients, and personal life?!) Dr Grande is a total rock star!

[@lisak6321]

Am I missing something or is there a reason that an officer would come upon a car backed into a house, find personal belongings and no person next to what appears to be a lake, though that may be a snowy field, it was March, assume it was a drunk driver, and then not even run the plates to see if it was stolen or reported missing or connected in any way to a living human being? Even if it was a drunk driver, they might have wandered off into the field and died from exposure. The officer could surmise there was a single female who left her personal items (red flag). How did this did not register to an officer that this is a rather unusual find and perhaps he should investigate further? Oh, and the boyfriend didn't think this was odd enough to report that he saw a car he recognized jacked up on the Old Dutch Bern House? I've recently listened to several of your videos and I'm seeing a pattern of either ignorance or disregard from police who at the very least should have been alerted to situations that are not going to end well, yet did nothing but I digress. I'd venture to guess, based on having been 17 and stupid myself, she was likely waiting to meet or met up with someone. At some point, for whatever reason, could have been smoking crack, backed into the house, couldn't get the car to move, got out and after running off a string of naughty words, either started walking home (assuming the person she met had already left or never showed) or the person she met shoved her in their car and the rest is a mystery.

[@eadweard.]

There's no reason to think the cop didn't investigate further, look up plates etc. She wasn't known to be missing at that point. Anyway, perhaps he needed to follow up on some other matter that people on some other comments section would criticize him for if he didn't.

[@lisak6321]

@@eadweard. Fair enough but would they not contact the registered owner and inquire as to why their car is stuck in a house? Until her mom reported her missing there was no mention of anyone attempting to locate the owner of the vehicle.

[@eadweard.]

@@lisak6321 Yes that's a reasonable question. We'd need to ask them I suppose.

[@lisak6321]

@@eadweard. Hey @eb, I suppose it would be worth while for me to look into the case. Dr. Grande shouldn't have to do all the work. Have a great day!

[@jeremybevan8882]

You've noticed then...that the Police seem to ignore/hinder investigations into disappeared people. Yes... in the case of TAKEN people (many of whom are Human Trafficked).. the police certainly are NOT the organisation to be looking to for help and enlightenment. And there is a reason for that!!!!

[@Tindometari]

Love triangles are all fun and games until someone becomes the hypotenuse.

[@eadweard.]

Or some contracts scalene.

[@Zockopa]

I bet she was setup. Waiting for someone she liked to meet parking at the house,then someone else came probably the caller from earlier that day. She panicked and immobilised her car while trying to flee and got booked. Anyway im pretty sure she was involved in some bad s..t,aside from doing crack,that nobody knows or is talking about. And how come the "known drug dealers" only got raided after the false tip she would be held hostage there ? Who gave that tip ? Probably the competition ratted them out..

[@nancydavis4618]

I am a psych RN and I just love Dr. grande. 90 percent of the time I totally agree with your opinions👍

[@joycepetrina2791]

Dr Grande…always a pleasure.

[@nancydavis4618]

I think she was into drug use and the dealers wiped her out. How tragic.

[@lsrose]

I’m wondering if she had a dealer she regularly bought drugs from. Perhaps she was there to buy drugs and her dealer decided she could be kidnapped and trafficked and no one would know. She must have been in a panic or a big hurry to back into the house the way that she did. I think she may have been trafficked for her drugs.

[@414violence]

95% chance she met there after work to buy drugs and it was a setup by at least 2 suspects

[@MarieJesne]

Somehow the whole "started a new life" outcome tends to be the least likely, yet a lot of people like to latch onto that idea. It would be interesting to see Dr. Grande cover a case where a person actually did succeed at faking their death and starting a new life.

[@bluecollarlit]

I agree, good idea!

[@Frogstomp27]

@@bluecollarlit the problem is that no one ever has.

[@annal7364]

Have you ever been to Michigan, Dr. G? I’m the only good driver in Michigan (says every driver in Michigan).

[@bthomson]

🏡🚗🚐🚘🚙🚛😇

[@bizzzzzzle]

Do you know @Dr. Todd Grande well or irl? You’ve gotten the most “hearts” from him out of any commenter. 60 hearts on 168 comments.

[@annal7364]

@@bizzzzzzle haha I wish I knew him. He actually has some followers with many more comments and responses than I do. His involvement with the activity in his comment section is rather impressive; I don’t know how he keeps up. I’ve wondered if he’s got someone helping him heart all these comments!

[@glendasully]

Dr. Grande can you please do a video about the abhorrent behavior at Hazard, Kentucky High School this week. I'm in shock at the blatant sexual behavior of the principal, teachers & students

[@TheDirtyNerdyShow]

Been following this case for a while. I'm glad you covered it.

[@jaxbutterfly9186]

BTW, I'm now watching you on KZbin while I wait in the car. My husband is 16 years younger than me so he's inside getting the groceries. I'm like that person who commented they've gone from a fan to an air conditioner. That caught my eye. You certainly deserve your views.

[@sbrooke210]

This is the most random unrelated comment of all time😂

[@dianamarie5663]

Looking forward to your 900K milestone when you will hopefully have a special video.

[@bthomson]

Maybe a visit from a certain pup🐶

[@stewarln52284]

Almost to 900k. Way to go, Dr. G!! 👏 your content is interesting no matter what mood I’m in.

[@denisewhitaker5116]

Thank you for these very entertaining and insightful videos. I watched you way back in the beginning and forgot to subscribe. So happy you ar finding such success. I love your wise ways and cracks! My best!😘

[@yinx02]

I’d love you to cover the case of Lawrence Horn, the ex Motown executive who arranged for his estranged wife and paraplegic son to be murdered for some settlement money. It seems like an interesting case and I’d love to hear your analysis of Horn.

[@JDoe001]

You’re spot on as usual! *one thing for others’ edification (or not, and this is common knowledge): not all drug dealers are surrounded by/or perpetrate violence. Some just deal enough to have a supply for themselves, and a little extra change. These low-level users/dealers usually have menial jobs because they can’t, or won’t, obtain further skills/education to advance themselves on a career ladder. They mostly deal with people they consider friends…the most violence they together commit is killing time. Actually, a small person CAN learn technique(s) to take down a bigger assailant.

[@user-pl4yq1oc1y]

Hey Dr.Grande! Can you cover the bow and arrow murders in Norway Oct 2021?

[@kimberlymarino7344]

I live not too far away from where her car was found. It's between Montgomery and Belvidere. This case is so similar to the Maura Murray case. Many locals still think there is some connection. I moved to the middle of nowhere to get away from this type of thing. I lived in blissful ignorance until this happened and my eyes opened to the gangs and drugs closer than I had hoped. Thankfully my tiny town remains very safe. My nearest neighbor being 2miles away helps. I believe she was chased and was eventually taken. I think she could have been trafficked but sadly it's, as was said, most likely she was killed. I also think about Israel Keys who took and killed an older couple in a town about 75miles away from here. He is a serial killer who admitted to many murders thru out the country but killed himself before giving much info. I think Maura Murray could be his victim too.

[@scottdavidson526]

That's been a possibility, but never firmly established. We may never know for certain.

[@moony_97]

Apparently Israel Keyes had also visited this ladies place of work. I think this is just a coincidence and she was murdered after a bad drug deal honestly though.

[@kimberlymarino7344]

@@moony_97 you have to admit that's a pretty wild coincidence. That restaurant is not in a tourist place or even a busy town. But he is dead we will likely never know sadly.

[@francesbernard2445]

Dr. Grande could you please do a video case analysis in which you mention what is called the "Driving Personality" as mentioned in the magazine called, "Psychology Today" too? Would Hollywood's depiction of Virginia Wolf be a good example of the "Driving Personality" or what?

[@NieceyWeesey]

Dr Grande please please please make a video of your experiences with New Jersey 😂😂

[@illailla5813]

Grande’s dad jokes would prob annoy me from someone else but I laugh at them when he makes them

[@leontrotsky7816]

On the one hand, a deserted house accessible from a road strikes me as a pretty good place to meet customers for drug dealing purposes. On the other, it's hard to imagine an enraged drug dealer not killing you on the spot, even if they hid the body later, and it doesn't seem anyone was killed at the house.

[@414violence]

They kidnapped her at the scene (with at least 2 people) and killed her somewhere else. Her necklace was on the ground broken so there was a struggle for sure

[@USALibertarian]

"I am going to run away right after I leave my vehicle inside a house." That has never happened. Ever. And not here either.

[@Bebecat477]

Thanks doc. Interesting case. I hope her family can find the answers and this young lady gets justice.

[@linak7155]

🥀 Brianna seems to hv lived a high risk lifestyle... all the actions condusive to a negative outcome. Theory #4 does seem 2b the more plausible scenario....

[@shadaniels4126]

She's too young to be living with strangers in highschool. That's the first mistake made and the second is no supervision or ties being strong with the family.

[@jada9655]

It’s the fact it wasn’t stranger she was living with it was people that she knew and went to school with I’m not saying letting her move out was a good idea but she was living with people she knew 😅

[@wayjamus2775]

The ex-boyfriend just happened to be driving by between 2:30 - 4:00 AM? Sightseeing perhaps? Told a few different stories? Maybe he wasn't happy about being an ex?

[@kasatka3690]

Both cases scare me. I agree they're not related. However, I cannot shake the thought Israel Keyes was involved. Really though, I think Brianna was abducted and killed by one of the 'acquaintances' I would like to see Dr. Grande cover Jaleyeah Davis's case!

[@raeraebadfingers]

It's crazy to think about how many unsolved murders I hear about and have thought ... Did Keyes make it my way sometime? Realistically I know the chance isn't nearly as great as I think it is, but it still weirds me out.

[@richbrake9910]

LaCross all but gloated about her charges being dropped. Brianna does not look 17. Appears to be in 20s.

[@debbiec4530]

Lol! So funny about NJ. I lived there most of my life. It’s where I learned to drive. Maybe that’s why I’m such a bad driver!🤠💕

[@zenawarrior7442]

Interesting case again with a good breakdown. Thanks Dr G😊💚💚

[@Somegirl811]

I wish there was a separate comments thread for people who want to actually discuss and react to the case. Or alternatively it would be great if people wouldn't post the exact same comments about cacti and dry humor on every single video. Maybe I'm crabby today but it's a lot to read through when you're trying to see what other people think about the topic.

[@eadweard.]

I'm this grumpy everyday so imagine what those comments read like to me!

[@eadweard.]

And yes they're feffing tedious.

[@surestar74]

Agreed! Also grumpy today. Enough with the shirt comments as well.

[@Somegirl811]

@@surestar74 yes! Thanks guys, felt like I was the only one.

[@bthomson]

Killjoys!😜

[@RepentfollowJesus]

I love your jokes. Same humor as my husband and I. 😊 Yep, my first thought was someone was in the car with her. I think she was still in the driver's seat and someone did something to her to make her hit the gas with the car still in reverse. Car inside doesn't have to look like a struggle. When I went through what happened to me, my car was not disturbed at all. Someone took her. My 1st thought was he was in the backseat. But maybe picked up a druggy friend to go do some drugs and things went south. I dont think she just left nor killed herself. Mary Wylde ,arm chair criminal psychologist ,arm chair detective, bachelor's in serial murder. 35 years experience. 🤔😊

[@ktgehr7453]

I used to live in VT. My heart aches for her family due to the fact that her case has remained unsolved. I continue to think of and pray for her family. You are not forgotten.

[@414violence]

What's your theory? I think she met there to buy some dope, she let the first person into her car to do the exchange, they pulled a gun and kidnapped her. They drove her to the location they dumped the body and killed her when they got there

[@cottontails9003]

Dr Grande, just want to tell you about a similar case in Australia. A teenager went missing, the boyfriend was a person of interest, but they were unable to find her. They charged a know sex offender with her murder. Eventually the police got a seach warrant too search the boyfriend home, they found her hiding in the boyfriend home. The public were outraged. Thank you once again Dr Grande.

[@eadweard.]

How is that similar?

[@cottontails9003]

@@eadweard. how is not

[@eadweard.]

@@cottontails9003 Well every single detail is different.

[@cottontails9003]

@@eadweard. Her parents were frantic, they rang everyone she knew. A sex offender was wrongly charged with her murder. The police used every resource they had. It cost the taxpayer millions of dollars in their search for her. Her parents were distraged and made many appeals to find her. So they didn't know if she was dead or alive. I think we can to deagree or agree. Thank you eb you seem like a nice person. Have a great day /evening.

[@beachboy0505]

Somebody's daughter. I pray for justice ⚖ 🙏 😔

[@HeyJudie]

I took Kenpo for four or five years and I wasn't exceptional by the time I stopped. I did almost reach black belt, but not quite. Even if Brianna had practiced all the time and rose to a black belt in two years (very unlikely, even if she practiced constantly), her Jujitzu skills would be more like high intermediate than exceptional (typically, people who master the art compete at least at a county or state level and, over time, achieve awards).

[@Somegirl811]

I thought that too. But I guess the point is that she could have fought back, or at least tried to, but she didn't want to fight. And it's telling that the girl kept hitting her anyway.

[@Somegirl811]

But I agree, one dude could have taken her down. Or a woman with a big stick. There could be multiple assailants but not necessarily.

[@grottybt5006]

Imagine growing up on a farm and chucking it all in for the degenerate urban life

[@sbrooke210]

Urban? Nowhere in Vermont