The New Civic "Hatch" Is Really An Audi-esque Sportback That's Affordable | 2022 Civic Hatchback

[@Lightsout565x]

Not gonna lie, restricting blind spot monitoring to the EX-L (which is $28,460 after destination!) is crazy... That should be standard equipment nowadays.

[@kamilb8232]

Active safety features is one area where nearly all OEMs make you go up in trims/options to get.

[@FeverBonus]

In Canada, the base model (LX) has all the safety features except rear cross traffic monitor: blind spot monitor, forward collision warning + collision mitigation braking, lane departure warning + road departure mitigation. It also comes with adaptive cruise control with lane keep assist.

[@f181234]

@@FeverBonus that’s good it’s all standard but all those features raised the Civics base price compared to the competitors

[@electrikoptik]

Thank you for typing "not gonna lie" instead of "NGL" like tiktokkers.

[@renaudgiguere7496]

That's a standard feature in every single car that has ever been constructed, it's called eyes :P

[@JamieToddBand]

The length of the cargo area matters more than the height when I'm loading my 2019 Civic Hatchback Type R. Huge interior, comfy rear seating, a great package. Bikes, guitars, amps, mother-in-law, all fit so easily. Alex is a super-human! The new Civic design is very handsome on the road.

[@DoctorSkillz]

Not me. I prefer a short overall length. Mother-in-law will have to deal with the rear seats in my coupe.

[@speedracer2please]

I can sympathize with you both, I have to parallel park all the time and wish Civics were as short as they used to be. But also, fitting a bike in the back is mandatory. And my mother-in-law is thankfully pretty compact.

[@garrettw99]

The previous Civic had some of the comfiest rear seats I’ve ever sat in

[@JamieToddBand]

@@DoctorSkillz Coupe is cool!

[@edreyez484]

you need an SUV not a sedan..

[@geirbalderson9697]

Alex, i like how you show the size of the vehicle as it relates to its competitors. Nice touch. Very informative.

[@donteadoss]

I’m currently waiting on the market to turn for something with a lot of power, but if I wanted a compact, I’d grab that Civic. I saw the sedan for the first time last summer at night and although I can usually identify head- and taillights at night, I thought it was an Audi from behind with the slim lights; the title is spot-on. LOL Ever since then I was impressed by the revision, especially because I NEVER liked the last gen outside of the Type-R. - Great review as always, Alex!

[@ericscottstevens]

Once the new Accord design (2023-24) is released I will know what direction to buy. The Civic is way less radical than that predecessor, less features than the current 2022 Accord. This new Civic interests me with the new look. Yet we are running out of time with cars with traditional HP and looks. By 2030 cars will be all online eco clone cars

[@stereomtl9001]

@@ericscottstevens Are you considering the Integra ....I am also in your dilemma and waiting to see next gen Accord

[@ericscottstevens]

@@stereomtl9001 IRecently I have been shifting back to considering the GR86 again after a ton of reading reviews and posts from owners. That Honda motor with the turbo oil gas dilution situation worries me. No word if the motor has been updated or they are pushing the old motor onto the market some more and not worrying about the consumer complaints. It is probably cheaper for Honda right now to go forward with the old motor. With the GR86 an affordable MT RWD will be a dinosaur probably in 7 years. It will have resale no matter what with that layout to the tuner community. I will keep reading.

[@Bondovw]

@@ericscottstevens I thought they had that oil problem worked out by 2019?

[@ericscottstevens]

@@Bondovw All I read about is Honda dealers doing a software update, extending the warranty, and telling owners to change their oil at 3,000 intervals. Still in a year maybe someone will be posting if they are having this gas/oil issue with the 2022 and onward models. Right now I am leaning back to the GR86 if I start reading Honda is coy about it. Too much money to destroy an engine over, or sell once it hits 60,000 miles. My main hang up on the GR86 is high octane gas on a non asperated engine (why?), but I would rather not have gas in the oil issues which is way way worse.

[@rollinking399]

Journalists keep saying the Civic is one of the best things you can get under $30,000... but you can't actually get one under $30k. Dealers are adding $3,000 and $4,000 mark ups meaning that Sport Tourings are going $38k with taxes and fees! Obscene!

[@ajk.8244]

don't forget non negotiable options you don't need for another 2k, because "they can"

[@JoKIA_-100]

Great very thorough review. I recently bought the EX-L hatch after having the previous generation. Upgrades to this generation are significant and still a value, given all compact cars have gone up in price over the past couple of years. Best option available in this category.

[@wat5513]

I want to thank you for the video. This review is very focused and relevant for the would-be buyer. The direct comparison over other models is helpful in relating how it stacks up over the competition. In other youtube videos, it feels like you've been overloaded with information but without really learning anything. This vid is good! Liked and subscribed.

[@Michael_Lorenson]

This generation of Civic is _far_ better looking than the grotesque previous one.

[@glennlong8874]

I got a grey 2022 Civic Sport Touring with the 6 spd manual used with only 4500 miles. Got a great deal on it back in May and don’t have any complaints and many compliments about this car. Plenty of room, nice leather seats, great stereo, nice sunroof, beautiful interior. The engine is great as welll as the shifter and clutch, handles great, love the adaptive cruise control, and no less than 35-40 mpg! No complaints at all.

[@plightn]

I agree I think an Si drive train with a automatic would have been an easy option to offer hatch enthusiasts.

[@chrissmith2114]

I like that Honda still have a spare wheel.... even though it is a 'spacesaver' restricted to 50mph.

[@JDelta87]

While I didn't mind the look of the outgoing hatch, I prefer the look of this gen more. The outgoing got a little busy in the looks department at times for me. This one has a premium, understated look to it.

[@DeesBees85]

It’s so frustrating when reviewers complain about rear seat space but do not mention how tall they are. It’s a very relevant piece of information.

[@tpolerex7282]

I’m pretty sure Alex is 6’-0” tall.

[@LiLgPnoy15]

You have to get this car in stick shift. F all that automatic transmission BS.

[@craigw.scribner6490]

Your reviews really are the best automotive reviews on KZbin--thanks, Alex!

[@KJ-iq7fm]

Your 0-60mph time of 6.6 seconds is about a second quicker than just about everybody else (Car&Driver, Motortrend, Edmunds, Redline Reviews, etc). 🤷🏻‍♀🤔🤷🏼

[@audiophanatic4331]

I think Alex 0-60 test all his cars downhill with a strong wind at his back. Every car is faster than other reviews.

[@KJ-iq7fm]

He has this regular Civic Hatchback hitting 60mph faster than the Si, for which Car&Driver got 6.8s. 📚

[@Jeymez]

with a car that only weighs 2965 pounds, a 180hp is about what the old Accord 3.0 V6 was back in the late 90's. except it made closer to 200hp, but it weighed just a smidge over 3070 pounds. so a little heavier, but 0-60 would be similar.

[@Pogona2011]

New to Alex. It's nice to see him driving on what looks like the Santa Cruz Mountains roads. I drive there!

[@jamesspacer7994]

I think it looks great - reserved, classy, low stance. A nice looking car 👍

[@rafaelrobles5494]

Honda thinks they are BMW, MERC, AUDIO, but only with their Prices XD.

[@subaru4me]

I don't know why Americans won't buy station wagons. I found this car as a wagon and it looks great. I'd much rather have the wagon as I could put more stuff into it.

[@BezmenovDisciple]

Cause they look hideous Clark.

[@tpf4292]

Honda knows how to make a fun driving car

[@rightlanehog3151]

Alex, I took a few moments to transcribe your thoughtful comments about Mazda's Torture Beam Rear Suspension® 21:38 "Mazda kinda cheaped out there and they did not give it a full independent rear suspension. I think that's a real bummer in the Mazda 3 and it is noticeable when you're driving out on regular roads."

[@damilolaakanni]

IMO, this is how the 10th gen Accord should have been styled from the beginning. They missed an opportunity to do it with the lift back esque design they did in 2018. It would have been the most practical in its segment. Or the only one. You mentioned the HR-V in the beginning. It's now common knowledge that the 2023 model (for North America) will be based on this civic and not the Fit like the last generation. So there's a possibility that the new HR-V will get the same engines as the Civic, but with CVT only. The HR-V will also become more practical as a result.

[@LLG47]

They'll probably integrate the styling to this with the accord eventually, when that gets a refresh.

[@joelh3637]

Was pretty set on this but might wait to see what the new HRV is like. More cargo practicality would be a nice to have along with AWD. Not a huge fan of the styling of the new HRV, but if it gets the 1.5T, I may overlook the design. Great video!

[@Cruiser203]

Good thinking

[@erichaynes7502]

The problem is that if Honda gave the HRV more oomph then they would lose a huge % of their Civic market..Honda will NEVER let that happen.

[@ThunderWindz]

WHY WOULD you ever EVER need AWD?

[@joelh3637]

@@ThunderWindz Never said I need it, just a nice to have. Would be nice for the snow, even though I'd have a good set of winters.

[@fartnutssupreme4930]

@@joelh3637 the new hrvs…oof those things are so slow and under powered it’s kinda hard to get over. Good looking interior though.

[@yasseralsaidi1168]

This new shape is truly the best and the engine is better i want one because its mileage is not far away from a prius

[@Tinrs80]

I saw a blog where someone removed those air vents and Put clear Polymer in those holes in the vents to keep the Dirt out. You couldnt tell that he did it. was good idea those for long term ownership.

[@nateisright]

This generation of Civic is fantastic. RIP Gundam robot styling department.

[@ricksays7133]

Civic front still looks like Gundam eyes, while Corolla front looks like the face of certain Neo Zeon mobile suits.

[@AppericateGamer]

@@ricksays7133 glad you point that out big Gundam fan

[@markolar3161]

It sucks that they stick a CVT in this gem 👎

[@paul5683]

I see one thing that I like on the spot touring model is the homelink garage door opener. Something that vw doesn't have on the gti. I like the homelink because you can easily program it to open more than one door and i don't like having a garage door opener clipped on to the viser. Also, think about it, that garage door opener is practically a key to your house. With the homelink, it's inactive without the car being on. My nissan altima has a homelink and I have it programmed for my garage and when I go to my mom's apartment building I have the homelink programmed for her building to. Park in one of the empty spots, visit mom and I don't even have to step outside. I would need to have another garage door opener clipped to my visor too. Homelink, Alex should be pointing that out.

[@XXtheJUMPoffXX]

Wish this had a hybrid option

[@sjwang40]

Alex’s pronunciation of “touring” is reaching new heights of “two-ring”!

[@robertyoung1777]

The best review of the hatchback I’ve seen. Especially like that you show the center console controls and steering wheel controls in detail and that you mentioned the center dash speaker on the touring trim. That center speaker makes it breaks a cars sound system.

[@golferjoe16]

How didn't Alex mention the upcoming luxury version of this Civic, the Acura Integra? With a starting price around the same as a loaded civic... it's definitely a consideration for those looking at the civic.

[@eriknephrongfr8847]

Good point. It didn’t occur to me until you mentioned it.

[@DJPleasureSeekingMissle]

Acura “Integra” is a joke.

[@markmiller3279]

@@DJPleasureSeekingMissle I get that people who expected something different are disappointed by the Integra, but it is a logical competitor for a loaded Civic, as that's basically what it is. Indeed, that was what the base Integra always was, and expecting it to be something else was foolish. The higher-performance Integras will be coming later. They were always a minority of Integras sold, but for weird reasons they're the only ones people remember, not the ordinary ones.

[@danielmahoney5391]

Excellent Alex as always... you cover all ends and comparisons... thank you...

[@Timpala44]

It doesn't look like a space invader anymore. That is a good thing.

[@hondaftw1234]

The problem is every review is of the highest trim and the lower trims are very different (and not as impressive)

[@eriknephrongfr8847]

It’s a longstanding and ongoing problem. It sets the consumer up to purchase more car than she needs or be disappointed.

[@garrettw99]

You still get the best driving compact mainstream car on the market regardless of what trim you choose. They put their money in the driving dynamics and not technology

[@markmiller3279]

They aren't that different. The basic dashboard design is the same. Yes, there are fewer premium materials, but that's what you should expect in a base trim. The audio system is more basic and there are fewer electronic extras, but that's also normal. Mechanically there is very little difference aside from the engine. The transmission and suspension are the same.

[@erikhaynes5506]

@@markmiller3279 A Civic Touring sedan 1.5T CVT will drive significantly different than a base trim hatchback 2.0L with the 6MT which also weighs 200 lbs less.

[@thevduber]

I got a 6 speed sport and definitely enjoy it for everyday driving

[@mazyarkheradmand3837]

I kind of like the looks of the Civic sedan a little more. To me the hatchback looks like it was cut off too short in the rear. The sedan is cheaper too.

[@MARTINRIGGSS]

I would 100% get this car if it offered a normal auto.

[@dpajc056]

I get where you’re coming from but think about it logically. The CVT feels so freaking smooth it’s almost as if you’re driving an electric car. It’s really impressive. Your fuel economy is better (which matters these days), it performs faster and 95% of the time you’re not driving like a maniac revving your engine to the max so the drone sound shouldn’t bother you much. And many CVTs are programmed to give you fake shifts so it’s less annoying when you push the engine hard. You can always go for the manual and get my respect 💪👊🤪 #manualsmatter

[@jayhiggins5239]

You should test drive it. I was very pleasantly surprised when I test drove the power train in the old body style. Best turbo & CVT combo out there. Really not a reason to discount. Only other CVT worth a buy is the Subaru.

[@rolo7691]

@@dpajc056 yeah I drove the accord 2.0t and it was only 1.5k more otd than this. I had the same herd mentality about real gears instead of cvt but this thing drove and felt way more fun that even the Accord 2.0t. low-key this Civic kinda flies

[@junwong23]

What a misleading title. You've reviewed the top trim. How is 32k before markup affordable?? For a civic? Might as well get an accord.

[@ericb.9907]

Alex, How do you get 6.6 sec 0 to 60? Most reviewers get around 7.5, even with the SI....

[@Pogona2011]

I was wondering about that! Never seen less than 7.2

[@Ethan7s]

It's good to have Alex on Autos Classis (TM) back.

[@Tanktaco]

I love the Mazda dial control.

[@Ecuador006]

Me too !

[@garytryan]

LOL

[@Jia1337]

I hope when chip shortage or global supply chain issues are resolved in the future, the prices will get lowered and features like blind spot monitoring will be standard across all trims.

[@alvinsimba734]

You guys always get shafted on features compared to Canadian specs for every brand.

[@nickphillips2125]

"A bit ...too grown up" ?? Hello? Honda has never been about shouting, "Hey.... look at me". I enjoy Honda's sub-duded and clean styling

[@rickymahoney6664]

I wish these were the actual prices. The Sport Touring are $35,500 here. I wish i could get the Bose radio without having to get the top trim. I don’t care about all the extra tech cuz I’ll probably never use it. I’d love another VW but my last was too expensive to work on and needed work too often. I’m at a lose right now of what to get. If i could afford it I’d get the new Integra as it’s basically a sexier Civic hatch with a better stereo

[@danhansen9340]

They should have put a Prelude badge on it and left the civic name alone.

[@RajGheevarghese]

Alex I love your work! Really good work, just pure quality information, not trying to be funny or cool. Love it.

[@neilteitelman2428]

Drove a fully loaded hatch at the dealership. Liked the styling, but found the engine to be noisy when accelerating and the seat without lumbar support is a show stopper for me. Also looked at the Mazda 3 hatch…. It was very impressive and I liked it so much more than the Civic.

[@Astroinmotion]

I am looking at Mazda 3 hatch myself cuz I am not a fan of CVT and styling of Mazda 3 hatch is very nice

[@ivn9577]

@@Astroinmotion Ended up going with a Mazda 3 myself. Was coming from having luxury cars in the past and got tired of the high maintenance costs. The Mazda ended up working out great, its 75% of the luxury with 25% of the running costs. Struck a perfect balance for me.

[@nikolaygrishakin4646]

I was quoted $32K for a hatch sport 6-sp manual. I will wait for Integra

[@erikhaynes5506]

Integra $ay$ hi.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

Pros> The engine is adequate, the cargo space is the sell ++, inside Nice. Negatives> (for me) the digital gauges, the center "headrest" on the rear seat, "NO" Deep Blue Sea paint option. Price is very good for the features, but of course I want the manual "if" I can find one? 🏹🤠👍

[@stinkydoggy98]

I just absolutely do NOT like the info screen sticking up out of the dash like that. It seems to be a trend with auto makers now and I hope they go back to an in-dash screen. Every car I've driven with these new screens has been a tremendous distraction.

[@con2719]

Hatchbacks are just better, period.

[@jmulroy1]

Well done video covering the new Civic Hatch. I was looking at the Touring Hatch, as my wife drives the 2021 CRV EX-L this would be different, but similar to the CRV. One Big Disappointment with the Civic Touring is the lack of a memory drivers seat. Since we both would drive the vehicles this is honestly a deal breaker on the Civic. Lumbar adjustment would also be nice on top line trim, but not a deal breaker. Also 6.6 in your 0-60 run is considerably faster then in other reviews. All the best from Wisconsin.

[@jjoehler]

the new acura integra is pretty much the same car but does come with those features left out in the civic

[@Darknmessis]

@@jjoehler is Acura reliable as the civic ??

[@fernandovazquezcueto9606]

@@Darknmessis it’s the same engine as the Civic SI.

[@jjoehler]

@@Darknmessis I mean it’s not out yet but it should be considering acura is owned by honda

[@Tampa0123456789]

@@Darknmessis Dude it's the same Company same car. Acura is owned by Honda.

[@VanCityDLLM]

Maybe when Audi goes Front Wheel Drive. 🤣

[@f181234]

You can get A3,A4 and Audi A6 in FWD in Europe

[@914Rocky]

I’m a GTI enthusiast and have a 2016 Golf R right now. I’m thinking about my next car and I’m turned off by the terrible electronics in the new models. The 3 Turbo Premium looks great but I hate that no touch screen system. The civic hatch is better in that area-much better-and looks great on the inside, but I’m not sure I can live with 150 hp less. Not sure what to do.

[@doccyber]

Get a Corolla GR 🤩

[@robynbriggs9694]

150 is just the 2.0 litre, get the turbo!

[@stevelovescars]

I have a Mazda3 hatch and have to weigh in that I think the electronics interface is fantastic. It has hard buttons for easy swapping between functions (including within Car Play) and after an hour of use you won’t miss a touch screen at all. When I rent cars with touch screens now, I wonder why people like them. Using a touch screen on a road with bumps is far too distracting compared to Mazda’s solution. In other words, if you like the Mazda, don’t let the touch screen situation dissuade you.

[@ThirdBrainLives]

This makes me even more excited for thr Integra.

[@erikhaynes5506]

Great review. But you completely brushed over the benefits of the 2.0 over the 1.5T and that being long term reliability. All direct injection engines are inherently more complicated and designed that way solely for emissions and they all have carbon buildup issues to some degree. The addition of a turbo will also increase your odds of problems in the long term. The Civic LX with the 2.0, 6MT is my choice for the long term. It has less worry some 16" wheels and is 200lbs lighter than the Civic Touring CVT and with the 6MT will be more fun and engaging to drive.

[@richardgivens9845]

Great review. Still don't understand why Honda didn't provide lumbar support on the '23 Touring trim, not a deal breaker, but a miss.

[@rajk9413]

The exl trim in nyc is currently almost $32K, inclusive of taxes and fees. Not paying over 30k for a civic…

[@stingygunner]

Another one lost to the CVT!

[@randybowen3729]

Mr Alex, curious as to actual seat comfort…. We have a 10th gen and a big complaint is how hard and uncomfortable the seats can be on a lengthy drive.

[@Dolomite1]

I test drove it. It is hard and very uncomfortable if you're gonna commute more than 30min. This is the only reason why I did not buy it. I plan to check the corolla next year, which is gonna be Hybrid AWD.

[@robertflores533]

You forgot to mention a cordless phone charger wer you had the phone

[@nikko1984]

Best review so far. From France, a Big Merci !

[@andyhughes073]

I have exactly the same vehicle. I’m generally happy with it, but I’m disappointed with the amount of squeaks and rattles from the dashboard and infotainment area. Also the infotainment systems wireless Apple CarPlay integration is sketchy and I have to do a full factory reset every 3-4 weeks to keep it working. Honda have done a great job with the Civic on the surface, but I can’t help but feel they’ve severely cut costs in the not so visible areas.

[@whatsthedileo]

I have the same issue with having to reset the infotainment every few weeks for wireless CarPlay to work, and also the squeaks from the touchscreen.

[@andyhughes073]

@@whatsthedileo There’s a technical service bulletin for the squeaking infotainment/dash, just ask your dealer. I’ve had the work done, basically they take the screen area apart and stick wool tape to certain areas. It’s made very little difference to be honest.

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

Since Accord also has wireless carplay, does anyone know if accord has the same issue? I’m interested in buying either accord or civic, I’m probably buying whichever has less issues/problems.

[@Blackdawn80]

This is far from a "hatchback". It's like calling a 5 door full size SUV a "Coupe" and sadly some German automakers have already committed that sin.

[@snc237]

What would you call it?

[@user-pe3wc7uv4b]

turbo location means easy replacement when it eventually breaks

[@eriknephrongfr8847]

Honda’s one of the few companies that keeps ease of repairs in mind.

[@markmiller3279]

You're decades out of date. Modern turbos are very reliable, as are the engines they're attached to. Even cautious Consumer Reports has told people that engines fail so rarely that there isn't much point in worrying about that, relative to all of the other complex electronics and mechanical systems of the rest of the car.

[@user-pe3wc7uv4b]

@@markmiller3279 I don't care if I'm decades out of date. I don't know what your definition of reliability is. True reliability is only observed by actually reaching high mileage. Maybe you trade in your vehicle at 100k miles or 5 years and you'd say that's reliable. Just going by average data here, and on average turbos need replacing by 100k to 150k miles. Since I'm one of those that keep my vehicles 300k+, I care about the convenience and ease of maintenance. If I don't have to replace it at all, great! But only time will tell. Not speculation, not assumptions.

[@gene978]

15 YEARS Ago I bought the CIVIC EX because of the 30MPG City and 40MPG Hwy. Lets see how far we’ve come in 15 years. Today we get 30MPG City and 37MPG Hwy. We’ve come so far?? Yes I know the new model has a little more HP. $19K was the Sticker in 2007.

[@markmiller3279]

The EPA has changed the way MPG is calculated over the years to more accurately reflect what drivers would get. In 2008 the EPA added a number of new tests of cars under tougher real-world conditions (like very cold weather) that had the effect of lowering the stated MPG on all vehicles. The current Civic probably gets gas mileage better than the old one in ideal circumstances. Of course it is also a bigger car than the old one, closer in size to an older Accord.

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

Comparing 15 years old car to a newly released car is like compared Apple to orange.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

i cant wait to see you do a honda civic hatchback vs acura integra video

[@dretech]

At this time, the only dislike I have for this Civic Hatchback is the mark up the stealerships are asking and people are willing to pay.

[@markmiller3279]

That's true of all newly introduced and popular models right now. If you don't like it, wait a year or two.

[@epbski]

This has the typical funky Japanese design aesthetic that I don't particularly love. I don't absolutely hate it, either, though. VW and the German design aesthetic has always been more to my taste. But Toyotas and Hondas are better to own because they're more reliable and easier and cheaper to maintain. The German brands in the USA rip you off. If only there could be a car with VW style but Toyota reliability. And if only diesels were sold in the US.

[@DJPleasureSeekingMissle]

This is more Euro-styled. Previous generation had Japanese design. This new model is pretty boring to look at regardless of body style.

[@Ecuador006]

@@DJPleasureSeekingMissle this is more jamaican design

[@lamesamelame]

The California flooding made me realize that CUVs can go over a foot of water without stressing while sedans/ hatchbacks will have water in the interior!

[@MertMuftugil]

I am surprised 73 dB at 50 mph got it a score of A even when compared to similar cars.

[@jesus2400]

Excellent review not crazy about the hatch back look, but like the 1.5 turbo motor

[@etbadaboum]

It looks like a great car. Fortunately it will come in Europe next autumn! Thanks Honda.

[@th3m3du54]

Took them long enough

[@dpajc056]

This car is awesome but personally I would have much more preferred if it was a proper hatchback like a golf or Corolla or even a station wagon

[@iluvcakes19]

Same

[@SIIKAP1]

🤢 Nah, the lift back is much sexier than a boxy hatch

[@ayayoutuber]

no one buy boxy 2 door. not going to happen ever. 4 door is more practical and more buyer. wagon is also dead in america. not going to happen.

[@georgeh6856]

Real buttons and knobs on the dash (and steering wheel). Yea!

[@chrissmith2114]

You can get lumbar support from a small cushion - many people do not need or want lumbar support.

[@M1911jln]

The front is fine. The side profile is not to my taste. I'd much prefer a more horizontal rear roof line, like the VW GTI.

[@rightlanehog3151]

A real hatchback is so much better than a liftback.

[@DJPleasureSeekingMissle]

This thing is pretty hideous looking.

[@Soh90]

I watched the video because you posted it Alex…. But I gotta say, not a huge fan of the Civic Hatch. It’s just too big. I think I’m over Honda’s obsession with trying to be the masters of packaging. Golf GTI or MAZDA3 Hatch for me. I suppose if your commute includes runs to IKEA 5 days a week you can get the Civic Hatch….. then again you could just get something even more practical, like a CR-V.

[@4uto_4ddict]

I don’t believe you can say a Civic is affordable anymore when a standard Civic is now listed at 27k on a dealers lot. In 2004 I paid 14k for a Civic. Should the price really have doubled in 18 years?

[@jpmissmo]

The best review I’ve been waiting for. So detailed and honest. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🔥

[@rightlanehog3151]

Alex, I had to stop and rewind the video 6:00 to confirm the Civic actually has less rear headroom that the pitiful quantity we find in the Corolla hatch. Once again, fashionable, swoopy lines severely compromise function. In Honda's case, the relatively generous rear seat legroom is negated by the ridiculous deficiency in headroom.

[@jimbo5635]

I rarely, if ever have adults in backseats. I think most people that do will buy a larger car. Head room just isn't that important to the average small car shopper.

[@markmiller3279]

It's borderline to me. I do put adults in the back, but arranging things so the tallest passenger is in front is usually possible. It looks like a six-footer could fit if he was in a more normal, relaxed position. Alex was sitting bolt upright when he was against the roof. The Mazda3 has poor rear legroom and about the same headroom. The Corolla and GTI have less legroom and only a little more headroom. Only the Mazda strikes me as a problem for adults.

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@markmiller3279 Form is supposed to follow function not impede it. The exaggerated slope in the roofline is a design indulgence that will force many people who would prefer to drive a car to get a less efficient CUV instead. For nearly a decade we have had a trend of slicing rooflines of sedans and hatches. The sales trajectory across the industry has been downward for cars as they become more and more stylish. Practical people are forced into CUVs whether they really want them or not. I cannot specify numbers for Hondas but if you compare today's Corolla hatch to a Matrix from less than a decade ago, the roofline is 6 inches lower!

[@falkin42]

@@rightlanehog3151 I feel like it's the other way around. Shoppers went to "practical" vehicles first and then the sedans focused on style and carrying people, not stuff. Most people don't notice rear seat headroom because they aren't in the rear seat for extended periods, or they slouch more. I'm very appreciative of style forward sedans but they don't have to be for everybody and there are still several that are not.

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@falkin42 Please name one sedan with decent rear headroom compared to its predecessor from a decade ago.

[@garyolafson8303]

Vlogs I watched yesterday define 2nd Gen 2023 HR-V as a replacement for 2022 Civic Hatchback, same dimensions, independent rear suspension & engine(s)

[@golfbuddy1969]

I’ve now seen many of these Civics on the road, and it is one of the few cars that look better in videos and pics, than in person. But still, is more attractive than the more expensive Accord.

[@ii_dynasty]

The 2022 civic looks definitely looks better in person. the accord definitely still has the advantage in looks, especially in the front

[@ii_dynasty]

The 2022 civic looks definitely looks better in person. the accord definitely still has the advantage in looks, especially in the front

[@tgrujic1965]

they went backwards, this model is more conservative than the previous generation.

[@naveenthemachine]

But that’s what makes them safe bets. Pragmatic can’t go wrong and responsible The overall package is what makes it perfect. Not to mention that the civic is phenomenal driving and very underrated. The driving quality will make you weep at how good it is

[@Bear_Arms]

How does Alex get 6.6 for a 0-60 time on this car, and apparently on the sedan? I have not heard anyone else claiming a time anywhere near 6.6, even for the Si. This must be a mistake.

[@douglascohen2521]

It’s the new integra!!!

[@Abon502]

I think the last body style was more edgy more unique and fun . It’s like they dumbed down the design . There is nothing unique about this if it said Hyundai on it I would not know the difference

[@alikooti7368]

Thanks for the review. it was informative.

[@jonathanhidalgo4591]

IMO The primary competition for this car would be a base Integra if it starts at $30K like Acura has said.

[@fredtalmadge5307]

I'll be interested in seeing how these two compare. Especially wondering if the extra cost for the Acura will be worth it.

[@eriknephrongfr8847]

Same to both of the above.

[@markmiller3279]

Yes, exactly. I don't expect it to offer much more than the Acura name at that price, but it will still be a nice car.

[@bharcooldude]

Base integra loses a lot of features compared to the civic hatch sport touring. Smaller infotainment system, no wireless AA, fewer USB ports, presumably inferior audio system, smaller tires (probably good for ride though), no remote start, no led fog lights and proximity sensors

[@TheKingkingg]

Awesome car Awesome review again

[@doccyber]

How did you get such a fast 0-60 time? All the magazines are getting mid to high 7 seconds.

[@johnxiong9034]

A hatchback cost 30k. Jezzzzz I can do alot with that much money.

[@chrissmith2114]

I just wish Honda would put more protection over the lower grille that feeds the radiators.... On several Honda cars I have had the Aircon condenser has suffered punctures from stone damage, so now I routinely fit 6mm square stainless steel mesh ( sprayed matt black ) over the lower grille... can save you a lot of money in the long run.

[@geirbalderson9697]

Alex, can you touch on driver visibility? Modern cars tend to have slit -like windows. Not to mention rear blind spots.

[@leeharrell777]

Very nice hybrid review/comparo video. Liked and subscribed!

[@chuckwalla2967]

Camry gets better highway MPG.

[@naveenthemachine]

Even as a Camry owner the civic destroys it except if you get the v6 XSE. Most Camrys are slower than the civic and handle worse

[@ExtraSubtle]

I recently rode in a couple year old Civic through Lyft. I was shocked how rough the ride was and how much noise was coming through the floor.

[@hoomansadjadi7666]

6.6sec to 60mph? I think that's faster than a new Si.... Alex did you mean 7.6sec??

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

I feel like he always overestimate 0-60 time, when redline tested 7.5 seconds for a car, he seems to tested at .5 to 1 second faster. That’s the case for other cars too.

[@markmiller3279]

It's on the fast side, but I've seen other tests around 7 seconds, which I believe is what Honda is claiming. Even that is more than quick enough for normal driving.

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

@@markmiller3279 he even said that the Si is faster than hatchback, but in reality, the fastest 0-60 si can do is 7 seconds, and he claims hatchback is 6.6 seconds, which doesn’t make sense.