Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio vs Jaguar XE SV Project 8 drive review

[@error404blah]

The Jag is cool, but that Alfa is the love of my life.

[@andrewnorris5415]

It's affordable enough for most of us to kid ourselves we might actually own one, esp. after a few years with a used version.

[@saidalas7763]

fanboy

[@luiscadeza5584]

I think the same bro

[@wavyyoko2622]

i’m sorry but a project 8? ain’t no way.. i’m taking that over alfa alllllll day errreday

[@angi733]

You’re proud of your Jag, I would be too!! But for most of us the Alfa is pretty amazing :)

[@busjardine]

"...smokey exits from T-junctions", "...naughty speeds"- You're the best, Harry.

[@davidfarmer2049]

I thnk there were one or two naughty speeds going on there........

[@tobybowers6990]

Harry if you remember taking a Maserati into an oxford garage back in the 90's for some work, handing the keys to a young apprentice and saying "be careful its a bit vicious" ... It was me and it was.

[@harrysgarage]

Excellent memory! Was it a red Ghibli Cup?

[@tobybowers6990]

@@harrysgarage I think it was. Thanks for reply.

[@user-ht9fr6eh9u]

Not a Yung un now tho

[@henryhol8538]

Just what the Doctor ordered! Jeremy of TGT mentioned the similarity of these two cars as well. This review proves that there is space for another more hard core model that can be positioned above the Quadrifoglio. I wish Alfa can release the GTV (coupe) version. I blame the rising SUV market for the delay.

[@unico2162]

There is GTA M lets see THAT against project 8

[@markrc2012]

The Jag is great, but imagine if Afla made a hardcore, limited-run version of the Giulia, like the jag project 8....🤤

[@neutronalchemist3241]

The Giulia can be chip-tuned to 610 hp, You can install four 20" OZ HYPER GT HLT wheels for less than £ 2.500, original carbon ceramic brakes for £ 5.500, the car will sill weight 80 kg less and cost £ 75.000 less than the Jag (even counting the cost of a rear spolier) and, on a track, my bet would be on the Alfa.

[@chunkychinn]

I wish

[@tim2163]

@@neutronalchemist3241 you are a clueless peasant, stick to vauxhalls lmao

[@namibgtv6]

Mark RC exactly what i was thinking. Like a special Giulia GTA, or GTAm... A carbon bodied, widened fire breathing monster, stroked out to 3.5... just imagine..

[@reynoutdecourt7983]

In New Zealand I replaced my Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio with the F-Type V8 SVR. Jag is far superior!

[@johanstam4188]

Jag is a race car that can go on the road, Alfa is a road car that can go on track. Apples and oranges really, the jag is a limited edition bespoke car, the Alfa you can go and order at a dealership today, or at least some of us can. Should Alfa decide (which they won't) to do a GTA with the full 8 cylinder engine from the California T, 4wd and all the requisite track-focused mods, things might become very interesting indeed. Kudos to Jaguar for building this crazy car though and to you Harry for yet another wonderful video.

[@innismor11]

Yeah, not sure Jaguar makes money on their SVO cars .... I've always considered it's just way to keep their good engineers around and entertained...... to give them a SVO and some money every few years. After two years, there are still many of the 300 produced Project 8's not sold.

[@innismor11]

Jag does. Alfa fans do dreaming.

[@joelpatterson8130]

@@innismor11 you both spoke too soon.. The GTAm will most likely beat the project 8 on the Nurburgring

[@TheJStoney]

I’d 100% take the Alfa.

[@sotirisbakaimis3276]

me too...

[@saidalas7763]

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[@jaymyers6452]

Im so happy to see so many positive comments supporting the Alfa. They really changed the game with the Giulia

[@vibingwithvinyl]

If I had to choose between these two, I'd take the Alfa. It's just seems more usable.

[@frostyuk2007]

me too, but I'd pine for the Jag... ;)

[@briankelvindiffey3006]

So i take it you're anti brexit !!! great stuff mate...

[@maxgreece1]

You could have 2 alfas and about 25k let over, it's not a real world comparison. Now if money were no object it's the jag all day..... But that isn't the case for many.

[@briankelvindiffey3006]

@James Smith Go fuvk yourself...Moron

[@thomasferrarojr.9772]

@@briankelvindiffey3006 Same to you! Cheers!

[@Simey2wheels]

Jag looks a bit "Max Power", Alfa is like Sophia Loren at 25!

[@actionarslan]

Sophia Loren at 25! Hahaha that’s awesome

[@user-ht9fr6eh9u]

She's better lookin than you at even 85

[@joshuarosen6242]

Very nicely put.

[@michaelcorleone993]

Love to see all of the love for Alfa in the comments. Legendary brand!

[@user-ht9fr6eh9u]

Made up name hey Nigel

[@steve-wu7jp]

That Jag is a bit over the top and over styled. The Alfa is pure class

[@davidfarmer2049]

Agreed.

[@bigkahuna1950]

Where the Alfa is a classically beautiful design, the Jaguar appears to favour style over design - horrid colour, gaudy graphics, maybe purposeful spoiler but seriously, it spoils the looks very purposefully as well. Sorry Harry, just a difference of opinion; still love your channel.

[@cutdepiefails6596]

It's the spoiler. That spoiler ruins it. Without it, it's a classier black series.

[@joshuarosen6242]

I'm with you on that. They are both great cars but the Jaguar looks a bit vulgar compared to the lovely Alfa.

[@joshuarosen6242]

@@cutdepiefails6596 I'm not keen on the decals either - too boy racer.

[@chrish8419]

I’ll be collecting my MY22 Giulia Quadrifoglio with the right seats 😎 on September 1st in Verde Montreal… the fact it’s even in the same conversation as the P8 (sadly not the same league) is impressive. Can’t wait. Thanks for the content Harry - 3 years later it lives on!

[@geoff9015]

Love the show. Top Gear “lost the plot”. Nice to see those roads. I grew up close to there in Gloucestershire. I’ve been in Canada 33 years now. This and Jay Leno’s garage .... fantastic.

[@Clarkecars]

I love and own Jags, but at least the Alfa still looks like its heritage.

[@tomasrandom6430]

Jaag looks like teenager tuners car from 2000's.. Alfa looks like future classic. Although gimmicky things like moving splitters wont help it much.

[@vika0194]

Don’t exaggerate

[@blackfish4674]

Learning guitar well said

[@vika0194]

The Alfas front grilles are different. Compare the left side with the right. Terrible. 2:22

[@seth6526]

@@vika0194 the reason it looks different is because the extra bit is for the cruise control I believe

[@chopper602]

Tyre widths on the Alfa are staggered. 245/35 R19 on the front and 285/30 R19 on the rear

[@FAT8893]

The Alfa for me obviously.

[@den_525]

That's how good this Alfa is... Harry have to compare it to the project 8 rather than standard

[@saidalas7763]

that's how fanboy you are

[@johncollymore1697]

I understand - or I hear what Harry is saying. And he's said it before about this Jaagg. "As a complete car nut... it's bespoke, hand-made. Usability... It's like which 911 do you go for, they're all common, have you bought the right one? With the Jag, you've just got it!" Neither are my type of car, but as "a complete car nut", I just love them both. And Harry's videos. Many thanks.

[@gabspopo2300]

You can tell which is best just by looking at Harry's face. Grinning through the Jag's ride, merely smiling in the Alfa.

[@Yarxov]

Harry just gets so happy when he sees his Project 8 doing well its great

[@johnbender5892]

I love the Alfa Giulia Ti Sport which is the high end non- Quadripholia. Car has a soul...

[@alexisamtosta]

The Giulia Veloce you are talking about but if you see the prices of both in the UK, the Veloce is more expensive than a second hand Quadrifoglio. The Veloce does look amazing. It is almost a Quadrifoglio but without that 510hp engine.

[@CadillacFan77]

Very good comparison. Eventhough these two cars don't have much in common (except the 4 doors and a high power engine) it's great to compare them. I own a Giulia Quadrifoglio myself and the "negative" points are positive for me. I use the car every day and I'm extremely happy for the softer suspension and the calmness, even if that translates to "rubbery" feelding Harry refers to. Also, the less aggressive styling is a big plus for me, as the Giulia has a lot of class even in the Q trim. The Jag sure looks great, but it's too aggressive for public roads. If I had a choice, I would still go with the Giulia, but would put that amazing V8 from the Jag in it. The turbo engine is indeed the worst part of the Alfa in my opinion, both from the power, the turbo lag and exhaust note. But, unfortunately, there are not a lot of options nowerdays for a proper engine, at least not if you don't want to spend more than 100k euros...

[@harrysgarage]

Excellent summary and I agree with much of what you say. P8 could never be an everyday car but the QF certainly could. My thoughts are the engine in any car is critical to its character and the P8's s/c V8 is a gem in a sea of turbocharged V6 and V8 alternatives. Both cars represent fantastic choices for the enthusiast, the alternative is a performance SUV which, are driving either of these two, hold little appeal. I went for the P8 because I have a multi-car garage with a RR in reserve for everyday chores, so hardly a typical customer(!) but have no regrets in buying it over a QF, for the reasons stated in the video.

[@stephane_edouard]

Harry, I love you, but please upgrade the onboard sound of your microphones

[@cantpassthebar]

I do this kind of thing in FORZA Horizon 4. Harry gets to do it real life. I love this channel.

[@leefrancis5462]

I would never spend 150k on a Jag. For me they still have that old man image.Great video as ever....nicely done.

[@erichakanson7010]

Great video Harry. Even though these particular cars are in two totally different tax brackets, I find compare and contrast videos exceptionally interesting a extremely helpful. Of course most enthusiasts looking to buy the Jaguar in particular know what they want and are going for that exact car. But some people may just be looking to add a sports sedan or "super sedan" to their garage so this info is valuable. Also, those who have driven one but not the other get a good sense of the one they haven't driven just by relating to the car and your perspective the two. Fantastic job sir! Would love to see more videos like this one. Cheers mate!

[@Elpascador]

Few days ago i was thinking about this compariaon as a quadrifoligo owner .. thank you for the excellent content sir!

[@agem1989]

I can't see any comparison. Alfa wins hands down. Lol.

[@rosinor6406]

I mean all nice and well. Love the chance and Harry. But one can be had for 50k easily. Barely 1yr old. The other one is 150k and I would not want to be seen in one. That’s really the comparison right there for you.

[@Elpascador]

But if money is no problem .. as an enthusiast he justified the 100k difference from the driving experience he is getting.. btw im a quadrifoligo owner and loves her.

[@andrewnorris5415]

@@Elpascador Agreed, I loved my Panda 100bhp and AX GT. It's all about having fun, money does not matter. Harry is a connoisseur of good engineering. That's good too.

[@flywithtb5005]

Price loss does not speak for the alfa.

[@MarkLsixtyseven]

For the price of the Jag you could have a Giulia and a 4C.

[@nicksokolis6343]

Even better you can have the Gulia and the way better Alpine A110! But then again if you can buy this Jag you can probably afford them anyway.

[@vforvedad]

Jaguar has fixed their image while Alfa is still known as unreliable and so on.

[@MarkLsixtyseven]

@@vforvedad What Car Magazines Performance Car Of The Year 2019 winner . Alfa have improved their image massively.

[@TheFlyingPineapple]

The 4C would be a poor choice, much better cars in it's category

[@MarkLsixtyseven]

@@TheFlyingPineapple There just isn't kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYLLlZx6esZ7gJI

[@MW-gi1tr]

Nobody in their right mi d cross shops a Giulia QV with a XE Project 8. The only thing they have in common is four doors. The Project isn’t really an actual option, it’s an experiment. The Giulia is readily available and a common site on the roads.

[@edinburghgus8379]

I’ve got a (much slower) XE and have owned a couple of Alfas. I must be getting old though as what appeals to me most in this video is Harry’s cardigan. Looks v cosy.

[@Sophiechic]

Me too I like watching the video these look to bumpy I drive a jaguar xj

[@deadlock296]

Guess it was the typical case when you thought you are racing while the Alfa drivers were just driving casually

[@jamesclarke4370]

Harry is every young lads idea of a cool grandad just love it hes just cool personified lol

[@wookiechewsmckinley999]

You gushed about the Jag, but I see you spent more time, more love, and more smiles on the Alfa. The heart wants what the heart wants...I'll upshift my Quad on the track in your honor.

[@captnagrom8178]

You could feel Harry's heart swell with rightful pride for his jag ... Alfa is stunning but the jag ... It's a controlled brute of a car :)

[@davidfarmer2049]

He does seem a bit biased haha.

[@michael007ish]

Man I’d love to spec out a Project 8. The more I see on it the more I love it..

[@user-ht9fr6eh9u]

Chaver

[@CarTradition]

We love Harry 👍🏻❤️❤️❤️🚗🚙

[@richardcarter1000]

Wonderful. Great that Jag made the project 8.

[@aerorobnz]

Jag for the colour and the sound and bespoke skunkworks feel. Minus the stickers and yellow callipers for me

[@Basti4Tube]

Jag all the way. Although I dont really like the color combination of this Project 8, the project 8 is such a beast and kills the Alfa by far. And for the looks, as fully equipped "normal" XE is such a beautiful car, and yes I drive one :)

[@tonym992]

Love your reviews Harry. No bs. Subscribed

[@Sophiechic]

Jaguar for me also the jaguar xjr 575 for dailys and this and or the xkrs gt for weekends

[@ToreHansen]

That Jag still needs tinted rear lights, just look at the Alfa! Great video and cool and rare comparison.

[@Andy-tn2hj]

Interesting comparison Harry and I know you love your Project 8 but for £600 I could chip my Alfa to make over 600 Bhp and still weigh 80 kilos less than your Jag. For another £300 I could widen stance with spacers and fit slightly lower springs to drop and fill the arches for a more aggressive look- now I need to decide how to spend another £89k ?

[@ajg7609]

No denying the Jag is more of a super saloon.. really like the Alfa but it couldn't compare unless you wanted a more relaxed drive. Both stunning and great video.

[@charlesclement383]

Thanks Harry I'll take the Alfa thank you.

[@67claudius]

I hope I never see a Giulia with a spoiler.

[@doguecreek]

@@jonathanmarx833 That looks better than the Erector Set wing on the Jag, though.

[@andrefilipediogoteixeirade6493]

Giulia GTA M

[@user-ht9fr6eh9u]

I'm going to weld one on and block your drive

[@davidfarmer2049]

The only criticism I have of the video was that it ended.

[@johntechwriter]

When I was a teenager my Dad owned a 1968 Alfa Berlina 1750. That featherweight (2400 lb.) little shitbox with its long-throw five-speed, unassisted rack and pinion steering, high-revving twin cam four-banger, and all-round discs was, I can almost guarantee, way more fun to drive than both these super-sedans put together.

[@OldManOnTrak]

The Alfa's exhaust note is not "random', Harry. The valves open at a certain rev point in D mode, and are always open in Race. Please improve the sound quality for future videos.

[@dominicsignorile9511]

That’s not fair Harry! The Jaguar has it all over the Giulia. I’ll take the Quad and a six pack to GO. Thanks for rubbing in in mate! 🇮🇹🔥🇬🇧

[@ericjoyner768]

2017 Jaguar XE 3.5t owner here. Test drove the Giulia Ti Sport this week. Giulia was real nice, sporty interior with race bucket seats. Dynamic mode provided some 'get-up and go' paired with steering and suspension that added some exhilaration. But overall power and bottom line performance doesn't match up to my Jag. Leaving the dealership in the Jag 5 min after the Giulia test-drive, the difference felt between the two was significant. Perhaps Alpha may consider a 320+ HP 6-cyl upgrade.

[@Mike7O7O]

I only got as far as 11 seconds, for my jaw to almost drop. I LOVE this Alfa already, but it's the first time I've seen the headlights switched on, from the front. Is it my over active imagination or does the Alfa look a bit demonic? In a good way, lol Thanks Harry. Had a challenging day and this is the antidote ;) Last thought. Ever considered tacking on a few out takes at the end. For shits and giggles. I believe your subscribers would really enjoy that. Mike :)

[@user-ht9fr6eh9u]

There is no good way demonic. Repent and believe

[@Dan-up6do]

Agreed Harry, the Alfa is a great car, but that Project 8 is something else.

[@Cornish15]

Project 8 is on another level

[@thorneycroft1976]

I just hope Jag sorts the bread and butter models to enable it to continue producing the halo cars....................I am impressed the bean counters signed the project 8 off.........and equally impressed that you bought one Harry............good work old boy........

[@joshuarosen6242]

I used to have a WRX STI and it's true, I felt like I could do anything in it. I absolutely loved driving it.

[@jonlyons1033]

If the boy does well at uni, Would you trade in his silver Alfa for the red one? Hmm?

[@hrgiyzueghe]

First time ever I hear someone mention that Italian roads are equally rubbish to British ones and somehow I'm happy about it even though I'm Italian. Yes, we do have rubbish roads down here as well :D

[@user-ht9fr6eh9u]

You wish you were Italian, probably an Albanian on a dodgy passport

[@hrgiyzueghe]

@@user-ht9fr6eh9u Nope not Albanian (though I don't see anything wrong with Albanian people who by the way have been living in Italy for many centuries) but here many roads are bad even though there's been a lot of improvements in the last few years.

[@NicholasZak]

harry, can you please do an updated video of the Project 8? would love to hear the long term review/thoughts...love and hate.

[@geoffhacker5033]

Tough call..... But the Jag for as he said, bespoke build

[@jakedavidson9641]

For more than Double the Price I'd hope that the project 8 would be better. Though I will say that it was much easier to hear you in the Alfa than the Jag so much more road noise. But what can you expect from a track car you can drive on the road. Great video!

[@richardhunt1384]

Didn't the LHD versions of the Alfa have the option or at least standard Four Wheel Drive and only because we (UK etc) drive on the Left that they couldn't fit the front differential because of the steering column???

[@alexisamtosta]

Thanks for this review Harry. I did mention it you and you did day that you had it all in thoughts and here it is!! Well, before the Project 8, the Giulia Quadrifoglio was the fastest saloon car around the Nurburgring then the Project 8 "stole" that record from Alfa Romeo. I just love both cars. With the project 8 you are much more exclusive. The Alfa here in the UK is quite cheap you can say. You pay more than that for much more boring cars. In Portugal this Alfa costs 120 thousans euros. 62 thousand pounds is a used one. Massive price difference. It is hard to pick one of both. I aim to in a few years down the road buy a Giulia Quadrifoglio. Nice review.

[@Anttihii]

Alfa is still fastest production 4 door, because Jag was prototype stage when they drove that time

[@adnanabdullah6482]

Buy 2 QF at 125GBP. Use 1 for daily use. Spend another 30K GBP to make it a bit hotter than usual for track days. so, there you go, a 2QFs solution.

[@Anttihii]

Pogea racing offers stage2 with 612 hp

[@DarrenVelSatis]

I saw the Jag at C&M, it's breathtaking indeed, love Alfas but JAGUAR, yes please.

[@Gorbyrev]

There's definitely room for a Lancia 8:32 sort of special edition of the Giulia. Still love the Project 8 to death, especially in purple or orange. What a car.

[@seabreezeuk4]

Wonder if they’ll do an updated version of the P8 with the facelifted XE interior?...

[@Arman-nl6mg]

No they won't

[@alfazedz1791]

Harry, I can't wait till you get your 2020 Alfa Romeo GTV AWD with 600 hp. It's missing a couple doors, I know, but it will still make for a nice comparison to these two. Maybe you can get one in purple.

[@danielesbordone1871]

The JAG is a more researched car , more for the track. The Alfa is high performance , but it's still built for the road.

[@dccather]

Another superlative review by the maestro. Even answers the question about whether to choose an Aston versus the Project 8. I suspect many would have the Alfa and buy a second-hand Aston Vantage.

[@atastefortheroad4475]

An Alfa/Aston combo would be a great one and provide some wonderful experiences. Both exceptionally good looking too. The supercharged V8 is a sound to behold, though.

[@jonlyons1033]

I'd love the Alfa, in that dark metallic blue that they do,

[@JDSFLA]

Would love to hear your impressions of the new Alpha GTA which is a closer match to the Project 8

[@clarkkent2913]

In the beginning I can see the old Rolls and the Jag coupé in the background. Now guess what I would like to see on the road again... (rather than these heavily tuned up family cruisers with spoilers, 4 exhausts, splitters and everything else no one needs)

[@UAPJedi]

P8 for me, the smiles from Harry gave it away!

[@kurtbilinski1723]

I have a 2015 F-Type R and while looking, did consider the "Quad." What killed it as a contender was reading about how dismal their dealer network is here in the US. Now, if I lived in Europe, I might have chosen differently.

[@JasonWaterfalls13]

Great video Harry, thank you. Both cars are amazing!

[@joefattal7592]

The project 8 is stunning. Looks and I bet it feels special every time.

[@Iwillfindonesoon]

No doubting the engineering and ability of the Jag but that styling 😫! Reminds me of an MG ZS. I'd have the Alfa and save a lot of cash. Nice vid. 👍

[@joelpatterson8130]

Can you please get a Guilia GTAm and do a new comparison? I'm dying to see how it does against the Project 8. It's going to be much more interesting since they are both designed to do the same thing.

[@Zzutubez]

Drinking game: have a shot every time Harry says "just" in any of his videos. Warning: you may die within a few minutes.

[@hrgiyzueghe]

True. But his "just" is so pleasing!

[@Zzutubez]

@@hrgiyzueghe missed a great opportunity to say "is JUST so pleasing"

[@robertl2856]

That looked like fun ! Thanks Harry

[@chunkychinn]

I so look forward to your videos Harry, always great fun and informative. I love the Alfa`s had them years ago, but spinal problems and major surgery and more to come barrs me from getting one other than the Stelvio which will hopefully be my next lease. Sadly an automated chair for the lower vehicles are way more than SUV`s and MPV`s.

[@ImLeuff]

It's great to see how proud Harry is of his Project 8 :)

[@ChrisFEJackson]

Mouth watering drooliness thanks harry!

[@richardchung7198]

For me i will get the Alfa and a jag Ftype with £150K. Love the exhaust pop and crackle of the F type.

[@Miata822]

I do sometimes miss my STi, but honestly, once I started riding motorcycles on the track and learned how to safely press them on back roads cars just no longer feel "sporty" to me. I simply can't justify spending what many people pay for a home on a car like the Project 8. For more modest amounts I can get genuinely fast bleeding edge technology on two wheels and have enough room in my garage for a wide assortment.

[@davidtaylor1482]

You love that Jag Harry, was this really an unbiased road test lol. Both great cars but you'll only find one of them on a second hand car forecourt, P8 is special

[@palethorpe01]

Project 8, such a cool car.

[@mikeclipsham4342]

LOVE IT,LOVE IT,WOW👍👍 you doing a fab job,love the video's,keep up the good work,most of us can only dream about.👍👍👍👍👍

[@PhantomMark]

Project 8 really just looks like a race car for the road tbh, its nice. I love my Alfa tho, better all round car for my needs. That engine and rawness in the Project 8 sounds awesome tho, very exciting :)

[@ashystyle]

The Jag is more like an black series E 65 AMG.But you still got to love the Alfa!

[@jonathanstamp]

Am I right in saying the jag took the alfa’s record at the n-ring? 4 door cars but the jag that broke the record had a roll cage so no rear seats?

[@johnkingery2347]

Your excellent video makes the case that the Jag is the more capable of the two, but worth the huge premium, not for the great majority of your subscribers I would think!

[@harrysgarage]

I don't think that's the case, the P8 is certainly the more exciting ground coverer but I said the premium is only justified because of its hand-built, limited number status. If you can cope with that, then it's the better choice of the two.

[@metallic4888]

if i could somehow get the chassis, drive train, and spirit of the giulia, with the interior comfort of the jaguar, perfect.

[@Haenki]

Can you do a review of the M2 Competition?

[@robbryant52]

Girl on Swiss roads this is how you do it ....fantastic harry

[@richardgoring4485]

Always enjoy your videos Harry. Would be great if you could review some of the Mercedes amg's and the black series versions.