Alfred Molina Wanted Doctor Octopus To Chat As Much Crap As Possible

[@Alivair]

"all his villains are some kind of animal" is one of my favorite jokes in comics, because it leads to great lines like the Spiderman game for PS1 where Rhino asks "if I'm a rhino, he's a scorpion and he's an octopus, what's a Mysterio?"

[@shadowanderson2004]

Green goblin is a well goblin. Which is already green. 🤔

[@Ragnarok2kx]

Judging by his choice of headgear, I'm guessing some sort of goldfish?

[@WheatDos]

That' the MYSTERY isn't it... ;)

[@donaldblvkesargewoodersonw9717]

Cannot remember forsure, but I believe I’ve read, ironically, that the main inspos for his powers was also the “camouflage” capabilities of duping people from animals in nature, main two being an Chameleon and most small species of octopi 😂

[@shadowanderson2004]

@@WheatDos I’m going to point out the fact your profile picture is The Swede.

[@alexbarker975]

Its very hard to stand out in a movie with Willem Dafoe, but Molina absolutely did a fantastic job.

[@Angel-Otk]

He was talking mad shit the whole time🤣

[@malcolm32]

Dr. Conners is actually a fairly nuanced and tragic character in the comics. Where the Hulk is a loose reference to Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, the Lizard is actually an authentic and well executed examination of that archetype. But also yes, he is a big lizard in a lab coat 😂

[@dylanbyday4630]

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[@emigdiovargas8960]

His Lizard persona ate his human son in one comic in an attempt to mentally destroy him and it worked for a bit.

[@malcolm32]

@Alphonse I'm not saying the Hulk *isn't* a well written or nuanced character, just that the Lizard is a more committed exploration of the Jekyll and Hyde archetype and deserves merit for it. Hulk stories typically start with that idea in mind and then sort of go off in their own direction, which is fine.

[@Twooshort]

I never knew Molina named the tentacles. Makes me a bit sad the new ones are pure CGI.

[@Alexandra-ip2by]

Honestly though the mcu movies are like 90% cgi

[@almas4663]

The ones from 2004 were mostly CGI, or replaced with CGI. There's like 2-3 minutes of screentime with actual practical arms, and they look bad

[@spengler2258]

@@almas4663 A lot of people have the notion that the arms were always practical, when that simply... wasn’t possible and still isn’t.

[@almas4663]

@@spengler2258 And that is what really annoys me...People seriously believe that it was practical, and practical is automatically better than CGI, for some reason. They also really think web-swinging was practical too

[@livingreverie5951]

Can we also respect Molina’s hustle in why he accepted the role by saying “I’m here for the money” while he was on an interview with the other villains explaining why they returned

[@Lord_Phoenix95]

He was obviously joking but yeah. Straight up gangster for just saying it.

[@Angel-Otk]

He was doing this thing called “joking” maybe you’ve heard of it

[@dimitrescu182]

Well the fans and Sony are happy to pay the bills

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Well, he needs money. He won't steal it, he's not a criminal.

[@dragonBMA]

“Happy to pay the bills, Otto!”

[@StevetheWizard2591]

Spider-Man 4 was also allegedly going to have Bruce Campbell as Mysterio, and reveal that every cameo he made in the previous movies was actually him spying on Spider-Man to find out his weaknesses. Given how heavily the Raimi movies leaned into practical effects over digital editing, and how Mysterio's "powers" were him being the world's foremost master of said practical effects, I can't help but think of how good Mysterio would've been in Raimi's Spider-Man 4.

[@seanblack1320]

Just saying, based on everything we knew Bruce Campbell was just gonna have another one of his famous cameos in the movie as mysterio being arrested during a montage in the movie. The main villain was going to be vulture with some assistance from Felicia hardy, so anything about a secret lore of the other Campbell cameos being the same guy is pure speculation.

[@biggizmo5771]

3:20 Someone dressed as Garfield? Garfield statue being transported? Someone carrying a large Garfield toy? Please God, I have to know.

[@Animal_Mother]

Yes, what was it!!!

[@alexandras3596]

Maybe a fat orange cat walking by?

[@sword7166]

No he meant Andrew Garfield. It was a really weird coincidence that they were also talking about spider man movies

[@obedulloa6219]

Oh shit, Garfield is everywhere, Super Eyepatch Wolf was right

[@bananaeclipse3324]

Probably an orange cat

[@evelynvocu8731]

My favorite Doc Ock moment from Spider-Man 2 was just the whole "Butterfingers" line

[@deusdragonex]

Agreed. His delivery and little head wobble is top notch.

[@marmalade8915]

YES

[@alexdasliebe5391]

Got a kick that Oc’s sentient tentacles didn’t earn the character a Nobel Prize. That universe glossed over an amazing terrifying invention

[@rosonowski]

Yeah, Doc revolutionized prosthetics AND clean energy. MULTIPLE prizes incoming...

[@popenieafantome9527]

@@rosonowski well, the fusion reactor didn’t go as plan. The power of the sun in the palm of his hand was too much to bear.

[@goroakechi6126]

@@popenieafantome9527 Well, the Arc reactor will do that for him once he gets back from the MCU.

[@bverrue602]

In an interview for No Way Home he said he was disappointed that the tentacles were CGI. Now I know why, it looked more fun

[@e.d.5766]

I think he was saying he was glad that they are CG now, because it gives him more freedom on set. Puppets are cool, and it always sounds good to say it's a real prop, but having your acting choices completely limited to which camera angles make the tentacles look real would be very limiting.

[@bverrue602]

@@e.d.5766 Molina didn't say he was disappointed, I misspoke I meant he looked disappointed. Dafoe and Fox were the only ones hyped by the changes to the costume.

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

There's just something great about physically being able to interact with elements on set. But CGI gives more freedom. Both have pros and cons.

[@applehack97]

I love in that interview when they get asked what it felt like to go back to play these villains, Molina simply said "oh I just did it for the money"

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

@@Squeekysquid If you think about it a character creating a one of a kind technology and then using it to blow up bank vaults and steal money is the most comic book villain thing ever. Every villain has did it before. It doesn't even work any more, money isn't held in bags in vaults, and money can be tracked. And there's cameras everywhere. It's funny how Doc Ock stole money so he could legally buy his equipment, instead of just stealing his equipment.

[@aaronconway4435]

You just know that Flo is the leader of the tentacles, and Moe is just along for the ride

[@themangoman9315]

This needs to be cannon in the comics

[@DavidRomigJr]

The Spectacular Spider-Man: “Doctor Octopus! You’re the Master Planner!” Doctor Octopus: “Yes- how clever of you to figure it out after I told you.” Burn.

[@megaman37456]

Who WOULDN'T want to hear Alfred's Doc Ock talk shit? Dude I could watch a 5 hour movie of him just sassing Spider-Man the entire time.

[@marcturmel924]

God, you are on point about Mads as Dr Doom. Never thought of it but he is one of the rare actor with enough charisma and underlying threat to be Doom...

[@KevinLyda]

Your opening premise on how Alfred Molina carried the movie: It's also because he's got right limbs.

[@KevinLyda]

Why did autocorrect change eight to right? Why?

[@platinumraven118]

My favorite moments in the trailer for no way home had to be a tie between the Dafoelaugh, or just the pure joy you can see barley hiding in Melina's face as he revises the role, of Doc Oc for a new generation

[@friskyjesus]

Alfred Molina was far and away the best casting of any of the Spider-Man villains.

[@SlightlyCivil]

Idk broskie. William Dafoe was just perfect as green goblin

[@e.d.5766]

Willem Dafoe reading this: "You can't do this to me"

[@Lord_Phoenix95]

@@e.d.5766 "Do you know how much I've sacrificed!"

[@369Sigma]

@@SlightlyCivil amen. I always thought Dafoe would’ve/should’ve been the Joker… just imagine him with green hair and a white face doing his trademark laugh, it just fits…

[@SlightlyCivil]

@@369Sigma damn, never thought of him in that role. It wouldnt be too baf

[@tntkff9901]

"He just talkin to his tentacles..." Well, there is a time where a guy will at least once in his life.... Oh! You said "teNtacles" ..... Never mind...

[@ReelPodcasts]

This is why the man is one of the top Spiderman villain performers.

[@morganrobinson8042]

That Fiddler on the Roof clip gives me life.

[@davincent98]

Someone edited it into a No Way Home clip. I recommend seeing the movie first

[@aaronyoung484]

My favourite part about that behind the scenes clip of Molina singing is how quickly the tentacle puppeteers catch on and start playing along, snapping *in time* with Molina and making it look like the tentacles are dancing along

[@DanielRaez93]

Karl, don't forget that Michelle Yeoh, Gemma Chen played 2 different characters. There's still hope for Mads Mikkelson to play Doctor Doom.

[@e.d.5766]

He'd be wearing a mask the whole time anyway, unless there's a better actor there's no good reason they shouldn't have him there.

[@Original_Syn]

@@e.d.5766 Even if he’s seen without a mask it’s a story about an infinite multiverse so Dr Doom could just be a version of his other character that didn’t became a slave of Doormamu like he did in the main Marvel Timeline.

[@e.d.5766]

@@Original_Syn I mean, that's possible, but it feels really dumb to have two completely different characters who will never interact with eachother be the same person from a different universe. Plus, they typically keep the naming conventions for "Variants" (like how they're all called Loki's) so it would probably have to be a variant of the MCU main universe's Dr. Doom who looks like some other guy we've already seen. It would be possible, but I feel like if they did that it would be really distracting.

[@e.d.5766]

@@RaneBoDasch Yeah, but it would be really weird if they had Chris Evans play the Human Torch in the MCU. Most of the recast characters were minor characters, most of them have only seconds of screen time as their first characters, and although he was definitely underutilised, Madds was in a lot of scenes. It would be really weird, unless (since Dr. Doom's mask is welded to his face) they keep the mask.

[@davincent98]

Also, the guy from Agent Carter with the crutches played a cop in Avengers.

[@Ploctor]

You don't notice how good they are on the first watch through, because that's how good they are. If they were done poorly, it would stick out because of it, but since they work as well as they do, they just flow baturally, and your brain doesn't think about it.

[@TalesByMax]

Dr. Curt Connors and Dr. Bruce Banner meet at a science convention for super powered individuals. Banner: "So, what's your power?" Connors: "I turn into a big, green monster and my pants turn purple. What about you?" Banner: "Well... this is awkward."

[@jazzvieadnan3779]

Alfred Molina is indeed a fun guy, I watch clips of him on The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson every now and then

[@mrenygma181]

Oh God, how I MISS Craig's show. Such wonderfully silly bollocks and it was fan-freakin-tastic.

[@Moltar01]

Spider-Man no way home is the greatest Spiderman movie.

[@averyavery8616]

I had to stop myself from spraying my phone with water when I heard Doctopus, that is the funniest thing I've heard all day.

[@vebz_6872]

Consider: Doctopussy. Have fun reading this

[@averyavery8616]

@@vebz_6872 glad I wasn't drinking anything that time, lol

[@tjd6801]

I just remembered when this was playing that i mean, the line that sums up most marvel villains, even today like mysterio in the last movie, was the one that got meme'd to death, "But I dont want to cure cancer, i want to turn people into dinosaurs." That is the mindset that fits so so many of the villains in comics.

[@ronsorage78]

Doc oc is an amazingly genius buddy and he knows it. The character relishes in being the smartest in the room. Between doc oc and green goblin you have 2 of Spider-Man's most deadly foes in the movie.

[@JAM92]

Doc Oc's thought process regarding limb replacement follows the same line of reasoning that mine does in regards to Porn.

[@siriuslywastaken]

giant metal tentacles are a pretty solid way to increase sex appeal

[@hectic.rhythm13]

Those coming from No Way Home, excellent movie

[@noBody-ue6cs]

I never heard anyone “chat” crap before. That’s funny. It’s crap chatting. It’s the crap chat. Join the crap chat guys.

[@okami-shaman9548]

You know..... somehow, those tentacles are some genuine movie magic.

[@AWindy94]

I really want a director's cut of Spider Man no way home. No not want. I need it.

[@turbopokey]

C’mon, somebody else had to have thought, when Karl said Molina named the tentacles, that they ended up named after the 4 Stooges(including Shemp), then for the briefest of moments, pictured the tentacles behaving like the Stooges.

[@nightlypiano4116]

If I had 4 giant metal arms I would totally just mess with people. There would be *so* many Octopus puns.

[@cjslime8847]

I feel like the best villains in super hero movies are the one just having fun Like you said green goblin and doc oct but also switching to the main marvel Loki

[@thomascale96]

There's a behind the scenes take of Willem Dafoe in the Doc Ock kit as well which is hilarious

[@cypherdastro8105]

On the topic of Palpatine having fun, I remember laughing my ass of when I saw the behind the scenes of the scene between obi wan, Anakin and dooku. RIP Anakins nuts 😂

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

"I'll take you on my own!"

[@donaldblvkesargewoodersonw9717]

Would you guys ever expand internationally? It feels like you just decided to keep doing this for a few years instead of wind down with the set-up switch

[@MakCurrel]

William Dafoe should have had the chance to play the joker. He would have been so good as the classic joker.

[@10007638]

YOU MESS WITH ONE OF US YOU MESS WITH ALL OF US

[@joshhitxoriginal9367]

In my friends words; nobody is born kicking puppies, except frieza

[@Lillith.]

Honestly, Molina is the reason doc Ock is my favourite Spiderman villain.

[@mattbrown15]

0:22 Doctor Pus sounds like a vintage porn from the 70s.

[@brandonhart7141]

Love the wax gorilla on the desk. Those were my favorite souvenirs as a kid. #morewaxanimalsplease

[@marcvandermeyden8000]

all villains think they hold the right perspective,what is so diffirent about sidious/palpatine is that he is pretty much the only villain that knows what he does is bad and he revels in that and that makes him extra creepy. all other villians dont come from that place they just think there doing good or just looking out for themselves but he actualy knows he is an evil bastard and he loves it,he know the only way to use the darkside to its fullest extent is to fully give into it and i dont think annyone els does that to his extent. the scary part about that is that if a person thinks there doing good they can always in some ways be pulled back to the good side but when someone knows there bad and they love it wel you cant pull them back because they have no desire to go in that direction and thats palpatine he was discribed a fuw times as feeling like a massive puur black hole. the only reason he would ever change is because of puur boredom.

[@Marmagon]

3:15 I blame Eye Patch Wolf for the existence of a GARFIELD IN THIS VIDEO. WHY? WHY IS GARFIELD MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO? This idiot gave us eyes on the inside and now we see all the nightmares of the cosmos.

[@Coreisus]

It kinda sucks that Raimi did the villain talking to their evil influence thing twice in a row with Goblin and Ock, cuz they honestly didn't need that arc, and it just took it away from Venom in SM3, Venom, who talking with his other is his main character trait... didn't get that because it was done twice in a row already.

[@Lord_Phoenix95]

Hey if it worked 2 times then the 3rd time would be pretty successful.

[@Coreisus]

@@Lord_Phoenix95 that's what you'd think, especially with Venom. Would've made Topher Grace more bearable, seeing his *meager* Eddie Brock succumb to its influence. But yea in the bonus materials of the DVD, Raimi explains how when Avi Arad demanded Venom and Raimi looked into the character to learn more about him, and saw the talking to himself thing, he "realized he *couldn't* do it a 3rd time in a row" . I'm paraphrasing but yea. I thought it was weird.

[@davincent98]

Everything you said in the first 40 seconds is still true in NWH.

[@davedaveson6279]

Can I 3D print you a logo of fact from fiend FOR FREE!!!

[@rocketman-michael4262]

There's a behind-the-scenes clip from Spider-Man 2 with Willem Dafoe in the doc Ock octopus arms

[@ShadowFoxSF]

The lizard = giant lizard in a lab coat. 90s kid me who had lots of cartoons and video games but few comics: ... that + cat = Dr Viper from Swat Kats... did Spiderman influence Swat Kats?

[@denime2727]

Spiderman 4 was supposed to be about the Vulture

[@roguegamer7112]

Wydm when u said there’s a big shitty Garfield going past 😭😭😭😭

[@raver797]

Fuckin amazing actor

[@lordpyro1]

The tentacles had their own personalities like Ghidorahs head. Remember that Ocks main villain reason was 1. Funding and 2. The controller for the arms malfunctioning and messing with his brain. Whether that be by making him schizophrenic or by swapping his control over his body to his arms control over the body

[@tapioalatalo6183]

John Malkovich was supposed to be The Vulture in Spider-Man 4. Fuck me I wanna see that movie come to life it sounded so fucking good too.

[@tonygoodwinjr9293]

Doc Ock's arms are WAY inconsistent in the movies. One minute theyre short enough to fit under a trenchcoat & the next, theyre like 30 ft long. And they lift entirely too much weight for his body to level it to be able to lift. Not to mention Spider-Man clearly punches him in the face lol

[@adamclary2867]

Be careful Karl, that shitty Garfield might be SCP-3166.

[@sheyannev2757]

I love the Willem Dafriend meme, I feel the same way about "Janear, Jafar, Ja-wherever you are"

[@TheMetroidblade]

So I recently got into ESO and I heard a familiar voice. Molina plays a character in that game and chews the scenery every time you are around him. He is just as charming and hilarious and a bit intimidating and all he is using is his voice! Worth a mention if Molina ever pops up again in a Fact Fiend video!

[@BobTheBuilder294]

Superior Spiderman is my favorite marvel series because you get a deeper look at the genius and character of Otto Octavius as he steals Spidermans body and tries to redeem himself by being a more efficient and intelligent hero. I feel like the only person who enjoyed it because it seems like everyone else hated it. My favorite part is how he dumps Marry Jane and dates a midget lol.

[@joefishstone8132]

The best palpatine moment is after anakin chops windus arm off and palp just lighting shocks him off the roof with so much joy😭

[@-justcallmecourtz-7287]

He was so snappy in no way home I loved it 😂😂

[@d-monfromthetip3073]

Is that a picture of Palpatine from Robot Chicken? Looks a little off.

[@rocketman-michael4262]

One of my favorite things about that movie is if you look for it behind the scenes Willem Dafoe shows up and like does the scene as doc Ock

[@edgevericarz8328]

I recently saw the new Spider-Man and it has to be among the best Spider-Man movies if not the best so far

[@thelastarcadegamer6655]

Little did Karl realize when this video was made, his wish of Tobey vs the lizard was going to happen

[@brucewaynefan338]

And when you remember Alfred molina was in the dudley do right movie as the villain

[@CJDrewlan]

His villains are either animals , green or both And whatever venom is

[@Jezeriah]

Alfred Molina in Coffee and Cigarettes with Steve Coogan is the best thing ever.

[@brianpratt3224]

William DeFoe had Mary Jane in one hand in the movie Platoon as well

[@skullz1441]

Dude look at the camera who are u talking to??? It’s so annoying

[@qualitytikoyproductions]

Dammit Susan, why'd you remove my likes

[@gangie]

When he said butterfingers thats the most sarcastic and smarmy funniest thing ever

[@palharaldrindal4871]

wait the tentacles were not cgi, in the closeup scenes they were real fuckin puppets?!

[@fake6430]

Mads would be a good dr doom but I will die on the hill that is Cillian Murphy would be the best doom

[@iz_stormbreaker]

to continue the list of animal villains Black cat white rabbit (also a dc villain name) i thing thats it

[@godwintalking4724]

Dr. octopus is a Spider

[@godwintalking4724]

Eight limbs right

[@Raccon_Detective.]

Superior spider-man

[@MakCurrel]

Eastern European??? Mads Mikkelsen is Danish. 😅

[@FeganFloop]

"The power of the sun in the palm of my hand"

[@kap1618]

Alfred Molina is a very attractive man.

[@evanlinden4410]

I’m a theater kid and I was so sad to miss Molina in Fiddler

[@elementalgamer0732]

3:20 so we don't get to see the big shitty Garfield?

[@The_Best_NPC]

Great video

[@paridisegamer]

Been a while since I've checked in. Glad to see Karl has a chair now I know it sucked for me when I had to stand all the damn time.

[@raydonahue8304]

Agreed, walking I can do for 12 hours but standing? Hell no

[@paridisegamer]

@@raydonahue8304 preaching to the choir my friend!

[@Magicghost23]

👨‍⚕️🐙

[@redfrojoe2602]

All his villains are animals and scientists

[@respectfulevil9022]

Every spider man villain is a furry

[@slimyelbow]

Can't wait for the raw version of this.

[@Just_For_Kixz]

Christoph Waltz for Doc Doom

[@THETRIVIALTHINGS]

Huh...The host here, (Karl) isn't drunk anymore. I remember him being drunk. Am I remembering wrong?

[@iateitguy903]

Speaking of weird villain names, I still think they should bring out Killer Shrike. Is he good? Not really. Is he well known? Pretty sure most of the people who know that one don't care. Do I think it would be hilarious to have a guy I've seen nobody talk about come out as an intimidating sounding minor villain nobody actually cares about (including the characters), who's whole thing is overshadowed by Vulture's thing being literally the exact same flight with life stealing powers? Yeah.

[@ultimabk]

(karl smallwood laughs as he spots SCP-3166) oh man, thumbs up this vid while you can before it gets redacted.

[@SentiNel090]

Karl's not gonna like No Way Home because the Lizard doesn't have his lab coat anymore. #pedantictruths

[@xelaplays4653]

Suprised that the lizard was never named the reptile unless that was an already existing spiderman villain that I don't know about.

[@aestheticmirror9257]

I saw the og Spider-Man 1 again today in a long time and Willem Dafoe fucking eats any scenes is in, just look at the scene where he’s trying to get Spider-Man to join him

[@TooMuchBS500]

I can't wait to see what Karl thinks about Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina's roles in NWH

[@Thisisnotadreamhaha]

Thats amazing lol ❤