ALIEN 3 - WTF Happened To This Movie?

Hollywood has had its fair share of historically troubled productions. Whether it was casting changes, actor deaths, fired directors, in-production rewrites, constant delays, budget cuts or studio edits, these films had every intention to be a blockbuster, but were beset with unforeseen disasters. Sometimes huge hits, sometimes box office bombs. Either way, we have to ask: WTF Happened To This Movie?
In the latest episode we look back at what happened to David Fincher's feature film debut and sequel to the Alien series, Alien 3. Met with critical backlash and fan rage over the death of key characters, as well as a claustrophobic setting, Alien 3 quickly became the Black Sheep of the franchise, but later gained a cult following with a longer cut released and a revisit after Alien: Resurrection, the 4th sequel, failed to right any wrongs of the past.
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[@Invidente7]

The most colossal assholish executive meddling happened. The movie itself isn't bad at all but killing off hicks and newt was tasteless.

[@dreamcastfan]

You’d think Hollywood would learn but they went and did it all over again in Terminator Dark Fate by gunning down a teenage boy in the first minutes.

[@gdwnet]

Agreed. It could have had so much more and it would have been good to have had Hicks there in that setting training these prisoners - the only person with any real military training. If they wanted to kill him off, fine but kill him off doing something heroic, not asleep in deep space.

[@jasonpowell4975]

Especially killing them offscreen.

[@echozgus]

the guy was working in terminator dark fate too?

[@mabusestestament]

Killing them of was great, starting the movie with a kick in the gut.

[@erikrichardgregory]

"A lot of people hated Alien 3. But no one hated it more than me." --David Fincher

[@JoBloOriginals]

Thankfully Mr. Fincher went on to create some half-decent films after this one....lol.

[@jeanetteterry9386]

I truly enjoyed Alien 3! Ripley got some! Charles S. Sutton was at the peak of his career. I enjoyed that British actor who was the doctor who gave Ripley some. I have 1-4! I saw the 5th at the box office. I cannot remember it. I will buy the DVD! Thank you! In the beginning of the movie I was very disappointed about Hicks being killed and little Newt. However over all, she stood her ground! Sigourney Weaver rocks!

[@pinkacid]

JoBlo Videos Half decent after this one? You’ve clearly not watched this film- gotta be part of that hip hive mind to draw in the views, eh? And it’s pronounced Sue-Lock-Oh, you’d know that if you’d watched the last one. What’s next- the first film’s ship called Nooostramoo?

[@michaeldriggers7681]

@@jeanetteterry9386 you mean Charles Dance? Better known as Tywin F****** Lannister!

[@Yatsura2]

_"Dont believe everything just because someone put it in quotes"_ - Albert Einstein, 1727, after he won his first Oscar for being the Last Jedi.

[@jamessummers4015]

The way he says "Sulaco" tells me you have never watched any Alien film

[@sendrakes4203]

LOL I hope youre right about this guy...since he missed Alien 4 (one that deserve WTF)

[@JasonMichealHughes]

This guy sounds like he's got a jaw breaker in his mouth.

[@joshuamurphy6593]

@@JasonMichealHughes seriously though,Alien 3 was amazing,it had that indie feel and it was absolutely amazing,Comic book accurate and a worthy watch,south african movies have that habit.

[@haletosis1380]

Haha. Was thinking the same thing.

[@TheMadMurf]

I like when people use the phrase "isn't that bad," or "not that bad," because it directly implies that (whatever is being discussed) IS bad, but just not super bad.

[@Dead_Again1313]

Super Bad wasn't that bad. I thought it was pretty funny although a bit juvenile.

[@atomiswave1971]

I walked out of the cinema at the end of alien 3 in a kind of "did that just happen?" distraught kind of way. I felt that way about 5 minutes in when they killed everyone off.

[@wavyamar]

😂😭

[@irina1296]

Alien 3 is a very unique film, I think. It has introduced the most important and cool thing about xenomorphs - they take features of their hosts. I loved Hicks and Newt but this series is not a romance with happy ending. The acting in Alien 3 was great though

[@mjjfan1104]

Yeah the acting was superb👍

[@ratlover7113]

@@mjjfan1104 They did a good job of making you care about the characters, even the ones that weren't on screen for long. The movie's only saving grace IMO.

[@dfcintron]

Exactly. Were people expecting them to get married, adopt Newt, and have Aliens show up on their honeymoon.

[@201hastings]

@@dfcintron I was expecting non-lazy writing.

[@leespiderpod]

William Gibson’s screenplay version that never got made is worth a read along with the comic

[@buggs9950]

I love all of the first three Alien films. They're all so very different to each other that I've never thought to compare them. To me they're three entirely separate films which just so happen to star some of the same characters and creatures.

[@balthazarasquith]

I totally agree with everything you've said. The fact they're all very different that's what makes it an amazing trilogy (I don't count resurrection lol)

[@michelelyons9410]

I think that this movie is a perfect example of the idea that with every franchise there comes a time to stop and close the book and not produce endless bad sequels. That is something that the entertainment industry has sadly not learned.

[@jdenoe69]

Alien 3 is a like a Joy Division album, it's not for everybody. They should have used the William Gibson script with the Cold War in outer space motif.

[@UATU.]

J.D.1989 gets +10 points for Joy Division reference.

[@gdwnet]

I liked the idea of the wild west version, I could see something like that working well in an ONeil cylinder.

[@nocfenix]

Am I the only one that struggles with the pronunciation the author of this video uses for "Sulaco?"

[@UATU.]

Wasn’t it like “sue-LOCK-oh” in the films?

[@ScrumDelly]

Yes! Haha a small thing but man it really fried my eggs!

[@willbelasco]

Cohesive G-unit yes. Also the loud trademark sound for each point was annoying

[@razieltalos]

Yea hes saying it wrong and its unacceptible

[@cyberdyer]

YES!

[@lilshabaz1862]

I shudder to think how he would pronounce “Nostromo”...

[@FrunkAsADuck]

Yeah.... I was wondering what is this comment about and boom.. Another ship name torn to shreds.

[@xLNDxBama]

And his way to say Sulaco. It's Sa Loc O or as close as I could write as it is said in many games and movies

[@peterbrazukas7771]

the No-stro-mo?

[@Brascofarian]

Isn’t it... he introduces it as one of the greatest movies of the genre but he’s too disinterested to bother watching it before making this video...

[@TurboHawkV6]

I really did like Alien3, I though the small-ish isolated cast that had to defend for themselves really worked as a horror type film (typical trope), but did it in a way that was engaging and unique. Much better than Covenant, and better than Resurrection, though I did like that movie as well, but it seemed to jump the shark a bit for the franchise there.

[@nathangarcia4522]

Glad to see that as a fan mad about the off-screen deaths between movies when Alien 3 came out many people involved in the production agreed. It was a really bad decision and invalidated a great movie's climax.

[@raserx63]

The story should have been set 15-20 years after Aliens with a grown Newt as the female lead and the other characters in supporting roles. This would have closed the Ripley era and moved the franchise in a new direction. Personally , I would have liked the idea of seeing the home planet of the xenomorphs. Maybe with Newt obsessed with finding out what they are and where they came from. Fox can call me if they want to use my idea...😉

[@Fatsaver]

Alien 3 just feels like a ''What if?'' kind of movie. Like ''What if everything went to shit and all our characters died?'' But instead it's the final canon lore and it just hurts to know what else could've been out of the franchise.

[@Memoryman12367]

Basically everyone dies in alien and aliens. Everyone dies at some point anyway.

[@Fatsaver]

@@Memoryman12367 No not everyone dies in Alien and Aliens.

[@Memoryman12367]

@@Fatsaver in Alien, its just Ripley and the cat. In aliens its just 3 people. In Alien 3, 85 survives.

[@Fatsaver]

@@Memoryman12367 Dude Alien 3 literally OPENS with the main characters dying out of nowhere OFF SCREEN mind you. Yeah no, no one respects that.

[@Memoryman12367]

@@Fatsaver okay that was not good, but you can't hate a film for that. It's still a good film. Everyone dies eventually.

[@HeyDirty]

Maybe I'm weird, but I loved 'Alien³' even before the assembly cut. But I loved it even more once I saw that version. Feeling retroactively justified by points made at 14:26

[@Ihatedayslikethis1]

Same. Loved every minute of it and it saddens me that Fincher has decided to pretty much disown the movie.

[@shainewhite2781]

2:00, the unproduced screenplay was turned into a comic book, which is pretty impressive! It's a good adaptation to what could have been!

[@christalbot210]

I remember at the time hearing of a concept (supposedly written by Neil Gaiman) in which the xenomorphs were a biological weapon created to battle the "Space Jockey" race. A scent provided a type of IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) indicator so the xenomorphs would leave you alone. With the Space Jockey race now making itself known (with disastrous results), Earth decides to make use of this new weapon to help combat them. As a result, Ripley is now forced to work WITH the aliens to battle an even bigger threat (and she is SERIOUSLY unhappy about that). Upon reading of this concept (I think it was in a Starlog article?), I came up with the idea of Ripley losing her IFF and having to kill some xenomorphs in order to stay alive; much to the ire of her superiors ("These creatures are FAR more important than you are!"). Just this second, I've mentally added that not only does she prove herself a great fighter, the xenomorphs actually begin to obey HER because her tactics are better (again, much to the chagrin of her superiors)! I'm now picturing her commanding a great xenomorph army. {sigh} I *really* liked this concept and was quite annoyed that it wasn't used. :-/

[@nickmesogianes4638]

Its definitely nowhere as perfect like the first two, but I love this movie. The idea of the xenomorph taking on animal characteristics from its host (dog or ox depending the cut) was awesome and that musical score was just badass. Also I loved there was no "happy" ending for anyone. I feel one way or another, Ripley and company would fall victim to the Alien at some point so I give the film credit for having the guts to kill them off.

[@rooroo8767]

I agree

[@3miter77]

im totally with u mate ..n im old enough to have watched 2 n 3 in cinema ..it had a fantastic look, good sound, but most of all the alien itself was the very best in the trilogie with fantastic movement for the time . it was a alien movie after alien 2, ..nobody back than gave a crap about some missing plots.

[@jshorto]

Agreed that whole concept of after everything Ripley went through she ends up on a prison planet with no firepower (Brilliant), critics tried to hard to go after this movie with negative intent.

[@JohnInTheShelter]

Absolutely. A3 is a return to the tough, hardcore ALIEN world after ALIENS' fun B adventure. I was perplexed when I first saw it but it really stuck with me. It's not as whole or slick as the first two, but the music, art direction and photography and acting were all amazingly good. It's hampered by the script problems, and it's too bad Fincher never got a script he loved. Taking all that in, it's amazing how good it is.

[@RB-vo4gi]

The interesting thing is that the Alien franchise does kind of have happy endings. The endings for the first two are hopeful, with the surviving crew going into hyper sleep after destroying the Xenomorph. This one just happens to have an unhappy beginning.

[@shadowvessel]

Wow. This has been your best episode yet, guys! I feel like you hit every facet of this story and a couple I never knew 👍

[@lewissmith8606]

Awsome video love the details

[@ThisValiantAdventure]

You know the studio really messed a movie up when they actually admit their fault in it’s failures. Fox eventually did just that with this movie.

[@noelv1976]

And the following sequel 😂

[@robertobuatti7226]

I thought it was definitely a good movie even if it did decline a little from the first two but I feel it's very misunderstood as a movie as well. I still love it's visual style.

[@billrich9722]

I've watched Alien 3 more than Alien. Nothing holds a candle to Aliens but the third one was great.

[@robertobuatti7226]

@@billrich9722 Yes definitely even though the first 2 were classics to me the third one is still pretty good. Probably because there were so many production issues it failed in some aspects but still a decent movie.

[@matteomuscas8974]

Alien 3 is better than aliens in my opinion. What makes Aliens what it is is the nostalgia of the 80's really... The 3rd chapter stands out way more to me

[@robertobuatti7226]

@@matteomuscas8974 Alien 3 is a decent movie, I think there was just too much studio interference. But I really love the movie.

[@dominicamato679]

This movie is the defention of pain... Not only does it kill EVERYONE, it kills the story

[@DarkShroom]

and what would everyone else have done.... they would have made a carbon copy of aliens and just decided to maybe keep newt and hicks alive.... perhaps a tv spin off: "The Adventures of Riply, Hicks and Newt" .... yeah no thanks all these movies are classic to me, they dare to treat the audience coldly and that's true horror

[@dominicamato679]

@DarkShroom I'm not saying they should have copied the first two movies, I'm just saying it was a bad decision to immediately kill off characters that were well established and loved from the last movie. Even when the movie gives you a new character to care about, in Clemens, he is immediately killed as soon as he tells his back story. And then Ellen is a goner when you hear she has a Xenomorph in her. The film leaves you with nothing to care about... I can't even enjoy Sigourney's amazing hair 😔

[@josephmonkele5992]

​@DarkShroom That would be preferable to what we got with Alien 3. You seem to be confused in thinking that darkness and misery (killing off Hicks and Newt off-screen) automatically makes a movie good. Alien 3 doesn't even count for me.

[@tonyfendex2558]

You're right!! Alien 3 kills the story HORRIBLY. The movie is total GARBAGE. No wonder "AMOST NO ONE MENTIONS" this piece of CRAP!!!!

[@LiirThropp2687]

​@@josephmonkele5992 I've heard many people say they refuse to accept Alien 3 and Resurrection as canon. They choose to believe those films are simply nightmares Ripley is having in cryosleep. Which they very well could be. How did an Alien egg get on the Sulaco in the first place? Not too far fetched to write them off as dreams.

[@shainewhite2781]

15:00, Fincher said that he rather "slash his wrist" rather than talk about the film!

[@kikemoglia9893]

Great video! 👍

[@xenomorphlover]

Alien 3 was my first Alien movie I saw as a child and remained to be my favourite of them all...it's the darkest of the franchise and the soundtrack is still one of the best in scifi genre...

[@save400]

same here, first Alien movie I saw and my fave

[@xenomorphlover]

@@AbuHajarAlBugatti I think all 4 movies are special, the first one might be a little boring for newer generations because they are all accustomed to CG effects and fast paced action. But in the 70s, a creature like this was completely groundbreaking because it was the first time such a complex and fascinating alien world was seen in cinema (due to HR Gigers designs). For me, the music of all 4 Alien films are superb, especially the third one!

[@ForrestFox626]

You need better taste

[@xenomorphlover]

@@ForrestFox626 something apparently you don't have...those movies are timeless classics

[@ForrestFox626]

@@xenomorphlover Alien and Aliens, yes. Alien 3, no.

[@GregBreden]

What the trailer promised was what we all wanted to see. What we got was like a knife in the guts at the time, they killed characters I felt emotionally invested in and it hurt. I've warmed to it over the years particularly after the special edition but the franchise went progressively downhill after the dizzy heights of Aliens and I can't say Prometheus and Covenant put it back on track. They're OK but bafflingly off in ways that are hard to define.

[@geardog24]

It feels like the executives secretly hated the franchise and wanted to end the series in the worst way possible.

[@vhscopyofseinfeld]

geardog24 nope they were just completely incompetent and filled with greed.

[@Cyberpuppy63]

When a sequel is made and actors and supporting cast negotiate for filming a part 2; sometimes Movie Studios want to play hard ball. To keep costs down or limit the influence of select actors and actresses. This sort of "divide and subvert" the past is very common in Hollywood. The easiest way is to "import" new actors or look a-likes, to keep costs from sky-rocketing. Another reason [for cancellation] may have to do with cost of a script - or politics of international movie goers. Fame has quite a bit into it as well.

[@guiguiregismercer5720]

I really enjoyed that video, what a dive into production! I love production stories

[@iskthedijify]

Wow! Very Good! You explained it all!

[@scottogden8509]

I actually liked it... the cast the set.... and it was gritty and scary compared to the 2 prior... test granted the effects where a bit shit.... but it was like a nightmare in a scrapyard

[@debysteele3806]

I really liked it too. But we're in the minority here. I think if an open mind can be kept and its judged solely on its own and not an extension of the first two maybe people would like it more..I don't know. I think it's atmospheric, depressing, exactly how being on a prison island would be. And the end scene (spoiler) is shot in a way that makes it very unsettling, and exactly how Ripley would go out. Her dying in that way fits because she would want to insure that the alien was toast.

[@edvaira6891]

It’s not a train wreck...but it’s following up two STONE COLD CLASSICS...and it’s just a significantly weaker film...

[@debysteele3806]

@@edvaira6891 I kind of am in development on a theory that perhaps an empathic and/or introverted person would be more inclined to get Alien3 because it does depend so heavily on the atmosphere, on the overall feel of the characters, not so much on action. Where "Alien/Aliens" is more of a extroverts movie as it is heavy on action and the characters are busy surviving and the feeling would be fear. I haven't worked it all out in my head but this may explain why people see the same movie but walk away with different impressions. Who knows.

[@ermatthe]

Aliens is my all time favorite movie and Alien3 has always been in my top 5 or 10. It was a perfect end to the trilogy. Most people just wanted more of the same formula from Aliens. But what they fail to realize is that if that movie had been made it would have been doomed to fail as well. You simply can't recapture that kind of lightning in a bottle again with a sequel. Look at the followups that tried (Resurrection, Covenant). So they took it in a different direction than expected. Killing off Newt and Hicks really angered people, but it was never their story. It was always Ripley's story so that never really bugged me (the central character and focal point of Prometheus being killed off screen between movies was much more egregious). Overall I loved the story, the characters, the tension, the acting, the music, the ending. It was a really well made movie all around in my opinion.

[@pecker2-9]

@@debysteele3806 . I re-watched alien 3 fairly recently but it was the directors cut or how it was originally meant to be seen,with extended scenes & cuts put back in. It definitely improves the overall film & makes it a more solid,atmospheric watch. I think ure right with your theory, aliens is a sit back & enjoy the ride whereas alien 3 is a deep character driven movie, asking questions about can inherently bad people be genuinely reformed into caring, does one extended bad phase in your life define who u are thereafter ect. .I thought alien 3 in its new format is a really good ending for the trilogy. Alien resurrection is definitely bad tho.

[@rogermorris9696]

Love the fact that almost every convict was British, and the Brian Glower was an ex pro wrestler who also also had acted with the Royal Shakespeare Company.

[@jasonpowell4975]

A Lannister always pays their debts.....

[@kimsleep4111]

Thanks for that high pitched screech...just about blew my headphones off and scrambled my brain.

[@Jackie-rc6cj]

What a well researched expose on the making of this film. I can't believe the amount of money they use making changes and creating movies like this actually. I really want to watch the movie again after watching this, just to see and re-remember the fear of it all. You can just see how good the special effects are.

[@benderbendingrodriguez420]

Alien 3 honestly is pretty good all things considered and I consider it underrated. The killing of Hicks & Newt tho is inexcusable

[@wy4553]

I was just so shocked when the movie opened with Newt and Hicks dead. I didn't really care for Newt but killing her off in between movies made Ripley's journey in Aliens feel so pointless. And I fucking loved Hicks, so I was hella disappointed that he was axed.

[@GojiraRising]

As much as I get shit for defending Terminator Salvation, Fincher's Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) is the movie that I'll defend until the end of days.

[@alexb.e7498]

I liked "Salvation" aswell.. it's the only one of the sequels that tried to do something different.. it has a lot flaws and is nowhere near perfect, but it's pretty good !

[@gateauxq4604]

It undoubtedly would have been crazy but the Wooden Planet script would have been really cool to see.

[@RevDrKillJoy]

I remember looking forward to this movie. Then I saw it. Once, I cried, and not for good reasons.

[@John.Angell]

I'm going to have to disagree with you. Garbage is garbage. "Pull an Alien 3", or killing off characters who survived an earlier move as a plot convenience is the epitome of lazy writing

[@Orlor]

Not to mention the idiocy of putting a egg on the Sulaco. How the fuck did that happen?

[@ZuluDFA]

@@Orlor The queen pooped out one or two while Rippley was dressing up for the fight

[@Orlor]

@@ZuluDFA - Not sure if kidding or serious...

[@Orlor]

@Litshttam - The queen ripped off her egg sack chasing after Ripley. How does one drop a egg without a egg sack?

[@John.Angell]

@@Orlor yeah that was just stupid. Did the queen carry it with her? That's literally the only possible way.

[@RossTheNinja]

The Director's cut is actually a good film.

[@Kresbok]

It's not a Director's cut, Fincher didn't have any to do for the Quadrology, it's call "Assembly Cut" it was edit on some of the production notes from Fincher, that's all... so non of the 2 cuts are there original vision for the film.

[@RogeriusRex]

It is really good. The only major flaw was that the cow replaced the xenomorph coming out of the dog. With the dog it's a much more intimate birth. Edit - and the ending. The alien coming out of Ripley made the story go full circle.

[@soupful]

True

[@LukeLovesRose]

That's debatable

[@emilengen7825]

@@LukeLovesRose of course it is.

[@ratatataraxia]

You deserve more subscribers.

[@55tranquility]

you know what -apart form killing off Hicks and Newt I actually like Alien 3 - the performances are outstanding and considering all the challenges the director faced that you’ve outlined I like it even more now. Respect to them for sticking it our and seeing it through despite all the studio exec meddling and interferance!

[@devinharbert6071]

Bunch of dramas that are now famous by critics and fans of fincher himself.

[@petromaxskavholm9779]

A true mess behind the scenes, yes. But I love this movie. It's a perfect ending to the Alien trilogy. Theatrical cut and assembly cut both have their strengths, and I love them both. Fincher did an amazing job. This is where the story ends for me. I'm not including that silly "Resurrection" in my Alien-saga.

[@wisconsinrebelhomes7587]

This video deserves more views

[@canyonfox45thisismygoodsid68]

Just breaking Ball's,thanks for more great content!

[@vdochev]

To be fair I love all Alien movies (not counting the "vs", of course).

[@MrBlonde420]

Same here!!! I love the Franchise🤘🤘🤘greetz!!

[@MisterUnknown707]

Even resurrection?

[@vdochev]

@@MisterUnknown707 Yes. I admit, it's the "oddball" of the franchise, but if you look at it as a stand alone movie, it's not that bad.

[@MisterUnknown707]

@@vdochev Well, I personally think that Alien resurrection is an irredeemable abomination of a film. But I respect your opinion.

[@vdochev]

@@MisterUnknown707 OK, I understand you and I agree it doesn't fit the tone of the other Alien movies. It's a bit like if Alien was in the Fifth element universe. But still, I've seen worse.

[@shainewhite2781]

10:50, this was part of a segment called Vincent Ward and the Wooden Planet.

[@timothymuldoon8473]

Omg I remember reading the paperback in elementary school because I too afraid to watch the movie... I closed my eyes a lot as kid lol

[@jacobpitsenbarger4763]

it's pronounced "Soo-Lock-Oh" love your videos !

[@adianpryde1526]

I wanted the Colonial Marine and survivor girl to be Ripley's family. Did a WTF immediately upon hearing of both their off screen deaths.

[@heatherdale5571]

I LOVE THIS MOVIE! It's beautifully shot and acted. Great cast. Brilliant ending. No sequels should have been made after it. Like Indiana Jones, there are only 3 movies. This final of the trilogy was fantastic. Unexpected, dark and terrifying.

[@alexandredion2151]

Still my favourite of the series. The oppressive atmosphere and Elliot Goldenthal’s sublime musical score gets me every time 👏🏼

[@bigkmoviesandgames]

It's my second favorite behind the first film. It's just so atmospheric and dreary and I love it.

[@Kresbok]

The score from Elliot is amazing!!! Is really chilling and so atmospheric.

[@MysteriousMiddleEast]

Alien 3 legitimately felt otherworldly and not filmed on a sound stage in LA. Fincher and his cinematographer and the score really elevated this movie past Aliens in terms of atmosphere.

[@JesperHellvik]

I agree. And yes the soundtrack by Goldenthal is a FUCKING MASTERPIECE!!!!

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

I like the black pastor with his cool personality and the religious references

[@victorbruant389]

I think it's fair to say that our smoothly running franchise has suddenly developed a few problems. I can only hope we are all able to pull together over the next few days until the KZbin team arrives for JoBlo Videos.

[@shainewhite2781]

7:25, oh, yeah I saw storyboards of this on the Alien 3 Special Collectors Edition.

[@SuperMarcelWorld]

Nice voiceover btw. Good voice.

[@mattpurvis9873]

*"In space - no one can hear you scream....for ice cream."*

[@TheRAMBO9191]

I'm addicted to watching these.

[@Stevenirons]

Alien and Aliens are so damn good, its a tragedy what happened to Alien 3/Alien Resurrection.

[@ropibo]

I don't like Aliens at all. The final Alien 3, with all its problems, is more intersting.

[@Stevenirons]

@@ropibo then you sir are a Damm fool

[@riptaway]

@@Stevenirons for having a different opinion than you? Sounds like you're the stupid one

[@Stevenirons]

@@riptaway no, you can have a opinion that's fine. But you should know that your in the minority. Hell, even David Fincher the director doesn't care for it. And if David Fincher who is one of the best directors going today doesn't like it that should tell you all you need to know.

[@Stevenirons]

@Jack Hayhurst Yeah cuase Spielberg hates Jaws, Lucas hates Star Wars and Peter Jackson can't stand Lord of the rings. The hell are you talking about?? People have also kinda come around on The Phantom menace but that doesn't make it a good movie. The only thing saving Alien 3 is how much worse the franchise would get with Resurrection. But overall it's disrespectful to the franchise and the characters.

[@sebastianokami5312]

I saw it in a local theater the opening day when I was 14. That Hicks and Newt situation was obscure for me to say the least, I remember leaving the place feeling like shit. Now it grew on me and I like it, but back in the day watching how different it was from Aliens was a bit harsh.

[@shainewhite2781]

Thanks for the video!! See you later!!

[@Greydevil82]

FOX. That's what happened

[@steamboatwill3.367]

Thank Disney for ending their stupidity.

[@steamboatwill3.367]

@suny123boy1 ) no they haven't.

[@steamboatwill3.367]

@suny123boy1 ) and do you think Fox would do any better?

[@steamboatwill3.367]

@Litshttam ) you would've said the same for Lucas!

[@steamboatwill3.367]

@Litshttam ) ever read "Dark Empire"?

[@Kem1kal13]

Suh-lah-co. Not Soo-la-co. Bro do you even Aliens?

[@VenusHeadTrap2]

4:29 “In the leather half of 1987, sci-fi writher William Gibson...” oh yeah! I remember when we all spent half of 1987 walking around public in leather spandex (dubbed the leather half). and William Gibson didn’t WRITE sci-fi, he WRITHED in it

[@DrumEagle]

Totally underestimated. It's a great and horrifying terror movie. And yes, the deaths of Newt and Hicks were no good decisions. Fincher did an outstanding and unthankful job in putting the scattered pieces of production together.

[@CS-hc5qd]

Love this clip, but the sound between cuts hurts my ears, soul and every inch on my body

[@BleakVision]

I think the direction the franchise did actually go is quite entertaining. I wouldn‘t have it any other way.

[@Emberxxx2002]

There was a book version that matched the first trailer. In it, the Company brought a queen egg from the Sulaco to Earth, where religious fanatics stole the egg, raised a queen, and eventually had 4 of their members volunteer to be hosts for more queens. And before you knew it, they were spreading across the Earth. At some point the Engineers (Space Jockey race) showed up, but not to help, but to plunder the Earth. Or something like that -- end of book. (aside: I read it 20 years ago, so I don't remember all of it).

[@johnick451]

it's a masterpiece

[@mudzy9820]

saddest part of the alien franchise is ripley finding out her and newt got hugged

[@haolekoa737]

We could have had an Alien sequel written by William freakin' Gibson. We got Alien 3. What were they thinking?

[@Mirandelorean]

Just watched Alien 3 for the 1st and only time. From now on, only best to stick to the first two films.

[@thearchane4885]

My biggest issue with Alien 3 is honestly the fact that they used way too much outdated cgi that was horrible at times, they also killed Hicks and Newt for no reason. It's like if iron man was introduced into the mcu only to die before he joined the avengers. It was enjoyable, but not as memorable as the previous 2

[@theknowerandtheknown]

Apart from Newt and Hicks not being in it it was a really good next step. An interesting plot

[@Thephoneixtheory]

Funny thing is that one of the best scenes in the alien franchise is the one with Ripley next to the wall and the alien reaching out

[@LastBastian]

I hated this movie so much.... At least Micheal Biehn stood up for himself.

[@vhscopyofseinfeld]

Bastian David Fincer did the best he could with that shitshow. I actually really like it as a stand alone.

[@echozgus]

for me is just a nightmare Ripley is having while she is sleeping in the Sulaco returning home

[@Kresbok]

Michael Biehn actually found out from one of his agents that the chestburster was coming out from his chest, because they saw a dummy with his rib cage torn apart, an he call them and told "no way that thing is coming out from my chest" he was sooo pissed off ahaha

[@nocfenix]

@@echozgus Here is the premise for Disney's reboot.

[@Maesterful]

@@Kresbok I heard he sued the producers for using his likeness

[@traumachild1737]

Honestly, considering all that was going on behind the scenes, this shows how much of a great director David Fincher is to still be able to turn out an excellent film. Also after reading the William Gibson script I still prefer what we got

[@teleespantoso]

There seems to be a video between the ads.

[@jibicusmaximus4827]

i like how prometheus and covenant makes it seem like a classic, before those films even, i never thought it was that bad, it had some interesting ideas and casting.

[@lachieechoecho]

With Hollywood it seems there’s always room for, much worse! 😂

[@oredp731]

I like those alien 1 and two posters with Ripley on one of them were can i get those posters ???

[@jdci75]

I'm hooked on these series!

[@Dave2713]

Cool video, dont appreciate my ears being blown out every few minutes

[@Hewylewis]

I honestly love Alien 3. Heck, the Assembly Cut of the film is awesome. But that does not mean I'm not aware of what happened behind the scenes. I am, and I am very disappointed with the Fox executives meddling in its production.

[@Bonkatsu12]

The still at 8:20, where is it from? I need to know, for umm educational purposes.

[@bruhmab7867]

They killed Newt and Hicks in the most none emotional way possible, which made this movie dry and boring to watch.

[@ViktorKruger99]

They way John Connor was killed in the recent Terminator reminded me of this. I know ppl has some nostalgia for this movie but man, fuck Alien 3.

[@mjmellan]

That horrible screeching noise keeps hurting my ears, every time you play it, it's like nails on a chalk board! WHY? its nousieating.

[@nickducharme5104]

I like this movie because of the half dog alien. I did want to see other animals but we never got a zoo of xenomorphs

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

Xenophants

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

And Xeraffes

[@xenomorphlover]

@@AbuHajarAlBugatti well if you think about it, the human version of the Alien is also a hybrid as it uses the DNA of its host to take its shape, so we actually never saw the true form of the creature...Prometheus and Alien Covenant tried to explain it with the black goo, but I don't really like those prequels and don't consider them canon...

[@NoiseFetish]

Assembly Cut version is actually my fav Alien film. Partly because I was introduced to Alien through Alien 3 so it has the nostalgia factor, but it also fixes about 90% of what's wrong with the cinema version of the movie and while probably not exactly what Fincher had in mind, it shows what he was trying to do. It's also really sad, cause if he was allowed to make his vision, we'd get a movie that could rival the greatness of both Seven and Fight Club. Meanwhile, worst Alien film is Alien Resurrection, which is kinda baffling... it had some cool ideas, Sigourney Weaver, Winona Ryder, Ron Perlman, Brad Douriff and was directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet and visually is really stylish... yet it's... meh? Even Prometheus and Alien Covenant are better. (I've never watched any of the AVP films btw so not counting them here)

[@Isaac-gh5ku]

17:04 I really hope that Neill's version of Alien 3 will come true in the future. It would either be live-action or fully CGI like Alien Isolation.

[@jedwilson95]

Killing off Newt And Hicks was a big mistake, they would’ve added a strong dynamic to the plot.

[@wgbowlesiii]

This movie could've been so much better. After seeing this, I'm surprised it was as good as it turned out to be. Killing Hicks and Newt was a bad idea.

[@PandyBong]

Don't care what anyone says; Alien 3 (assembly cut) is my favorite Alien movie. Favorite - not necessarily "best". It's just sooo grim. The fact that they kill of Hicks and Newt is awesome. Then they stick Ripley in a rapers prison with no weapons and throw an alien in there. Love it. It's such a different film, almost like an art movie. If you need to feel like crap, this movie is perfect. The acting is excellent, it looks great, and for all the Fincher moaning, it's a very well made film that probably made him who he is. It's certainly better that most of his later films. Anyways, great vid!

[@SA-zoom1]

Agree with everything you said but I still like the original Alien the most. But the assembly cut Alien 3 is a near perfect movie in my view which is nothing short of a mirace with the shitshow that was going on behind the scenes

[@Phoenix-xn3sf]

Apart from a few iffy CGI Alien shots, it's just awesome for exactly those reasons.

[@kevinwillson341]

I love alien 1 and 2, I'm trying to watch 3 right now. The second I saw they killed off the 2 characters I was excited to see survive aliens I had to figure out what went wrong. Not 5 minutes in and you realize this movie went through some sort of bs. Thanks for the excellent information

[@anubusx]

I wish we got to see the Xenomorphs invading Earth.

[@Otokichi786]

That was "Cloverfield," in all of it's "low quality SmartPhone" glory.

[@cosmoissleeping]

William Gibson script was also made into a comic from Dark Horse Comics. I believe the pictures you show are from there but not credited

[@phodder]

Wild wild west sounds like it could be a sick premise for a modern Alien reboot. An entire O'neill with xenomorph/livestock hybrids sounds really dope. And a chainsaw kill?? Come on bro that is gold!