ALIEN COVENANT (2017) Everything Explained + Prometheus Connections

[@kluna]

anyone else feel the Shaw and engineer storyline was wasted? I really wanted her to get some answers.

[@kawaki1207]

kluna i know right?? Shaw couldve done more and couldve been the new lead of this franchise. Im just disappointed that they never got to use that built up potential for her character but who knows in time they might be able to clone her like they did with the alien movies

[@piko7769]

kluna Well we can only blame ourselves.The first plan was to make a Prometheus 2 but because of the hate Ridley made Covenant which is a good thing and follows Prometheus nicely but most of the ideas like why did the engineers create us and stuff like that were scrapped

[@frankiealice4879]

He literally set up a massive storyline that died with Shaw - it was so cheaply done and really embarrassing.

[@mammon_is_god]

Don't worry, you'll get another 2 minute short and a flashback in the next movie!

[@jiv32]

kluna yep. What a waste. Shaw and the engineer storyline were the best things that came out of Prometheus. She went through hell in Prometheus and suffered a disgraceful offscreen death in covenant. Such a tragic waste of potential.

[@ProdJPGotzBeatz]

What we all learned watching Alien Covenant is that Fassbender is one incredible actor

[@Demon_1408]

agree

[@OpticalArxenal]

Tbh it's the only legitimately good thing from Prometheus and Covenant.

[@UhNaanEMoose]

He's really good at making me hate anyone that he plays on screen

[@lmoody9000]

"That appears to be a vehicle."

[@codywesker4798]

JPGotzBeatz Amen to that..

[@WesternXC]

David Episode 1: The phatom David David Episode 2: The David wars David Episode 3: The revenge of David David Episode 4: A new David David Episode 5: The Davids strike back David Episode 6: The return of David David Episode 7: The Davids awakens David Episode 8: The last David

[@SciAntGaming]

Lmao.

[@playnemonty7861]

The David The David 2: Judgement Dave The David 3: Rise of the Flutists David: Finger Penetration David: Tryafyst first two are classics but the sequels failed to land with audiences...

[@chrisricks6363]

Hustle Tha GOD Rouge David :bring me the tea David

[@phantomsports6808]

Don't forget Rogue David

[@raphaelwakim]

David solo: a David wars story

[@sd5458]

One thing I hadn't noticed after the first watch, was that Mother, the ship's computer - never responded kindly to its crew and in some instances (Tennessee dialogue requesting to go near the storm) even outright ignored orders from the crew. At the end of the movie when Mother responds to David after asking her to play Wagner - she says "Yes, David. As you wish." It is the only time in the movie Mother responds this way. Perhaps it's some sort of machine to machine connection or understanding.

[@cosmicXtropics]

Now that you mention it, that's a super cool observation. Too bad it was wasted. The franchise needs to move past synthetics/robots/androids though. 2001 mastered that concept on its first try, even after all these films - Alien barely scratched the surface.

[@GaiaOnHerKnees]

Mother initially refused to comply with Tennessee's orders because he was requesting the ship descend beyond the threshold of what theoretically was considered safe in order to avoid the potential total destruction of the Prometheus. The fact Mother essentially makes him ask repeatedly and then finally complies once another Crew member endorses the order makes complete sense. A decision that could lead to complete mission failure / death shouldn't be a knee jerk decision. All David asked was for a specific song to play, which as far as Mother would be concerned, isn't an outrageous request nor does it conflict with her programming.

[@fielalmanga]

@@GaiaOnHerKnees Prometheus? Wasn't that the ship of the... Prometheus movie?

[@LesPaul1482]

David didn't help them at the end. He was studying the alien to see how well it performed in a live combat situation. Closing doors and forcing the alien to adapt. What appeared to be a sigh of relief at the end when the alien dies is actually David's show of disappointment towards his "perfect organism" being killed by humans, and realizing he needs to do more "testing".

[@Gavolak]

I interpreted it as David needing Daniels to do his experimentation on. Similar to what he did with Shaw, I imagine David planned to do with Daniels. He needed her to survive.

[@bbudimanalqodri]

@@Gavolak But Daniels know he's not Walter. Its too risky to let her know the truth, right? Also, why he let Tenesse too... They both can killed David if they have opportunity.

[@Gavolak]

@@bbudimanalqodri he can wake just her up and then easily overpower her or administer drugs to keep her unconscious. I guess he just sees Tennessee as another body to experiment on

[@johnpalade6915]

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[@georgeedwards4958]

What or who set David on this path?

[@IvanKala]

David David: Covenant Davids David 3 David: Resurrection

[@yvesheinrich5013]

+Ivan Kalazic You forgot Davidieus.

[@nicolaslabra2225]

David vs Walter ?

[@Greippi10]

David vs Walter 2: I'll do the fingering

[@pigugtheshadow2879]

Greippi10 David vs. Walter 3 :fucke me in da bum

[@trashyhobo4957]

Pigug the shadow aaaaand you killed it

[@StarOasis26]

Dr. Elizabeth Shaw was an excellent upgrade to the whole franchise with her strong personality, her storyline and could have been a memorable character. So of course, what do they do? Kill her off right away. So disappointed.

[@serenemountain6769]

The Actress was interviewed on that subject, and since the prometheus script was censured "Alot" because of religious connections to Cristianity, since the Engineers had a religion, and it was linked to Shawn's belief's, the Director opted to put David on the Center Stage, but it was intended originally that she would have been a new Ripley, but now it's David's Story, linked to the Bladerunner's Series, to avoid further script censorship, and maybe the whole series being cancelled!

[@jmaurice72]

Alien 3

[@Ena_0082]

Here and Now 27 I know right Shaw was favorite character from from the movie

[@serenemountain6769]

@616e6f6e Chinese Market

[@SentinalUAV]

Why send someone on a mission who clearly has mental issues about her parents and he inability to have children, let alone her reckless behavior, who writes these scripts?

[@remplidefeux]

I actually didn't think those were engineers. I've always assumed it was just another humanoid species they'd engineered. So when they saw the ship they assumed that was their gods returning.

[@JoeCovenantLamb]

Totally - not smooth skinned, not pure white, not black eyed... just a shame it was decided to have them all being bald. :)

[@IntrusiveThot]

@@JoeCovenantLamb “Only one species can have a sick nasty ‘do. The power is too great to be disseminated.” - The Engineers, probably

[@IIKicktheMoonII]

@@IntrusiveThot I just imagined an entire race of engineer type species doing a wave check all at once

[@SweetSourPickle]

They created the engineers and they are superior, just how humans created David.

[@pedroribeiro7922]

Ridley Scott has pretty much confirmed that.

[@viettrungtran4500]

1. Never trust the android. 2. Never bring on ship a person just got hug by face hugger. 3. Stick with the fucking plan.

[@yvesheinrich5013]

"Stick with the fucking plan" was the first priority to being with. The other rules you've mentioned are all led by rule no. 3. They should've sat their asses in the ship, fix whatever is damaged and the sleeping pods, and go to their destination they were supposed to go, whilst still having a trustworthy robot.

[@shainafaye179]

Yves Heinrich lol I agree, They should've never went to a planet that they couldn't detect before. Not to mention the creepy human singing a song on the hidden planet. A place humans shouldn't be. I would've done as you said. Fix ship then leave.

[@maureengray2626]

You forgot add the point of learn to run left or right instead of trying to out run an entire ship lol( referencing Prometheus and silly charlise Theron lol) "bad spelling I know"

[@teddywap9569]

Yves Heinrich Yeah, they should've listened to Daniels

[@chessplayer8798]

Bullshit,you are going through space,unaware of any extraterestrials and then you hear a human song in comms,on a planet that is almost perfect for colonisation? No one would refuse to go there and investigate,it is in our nature.Other then that,it was stupid to risk entire ship for 2 humans and an android. So,send an expedition,if they do not return,do not risk the lives on board.

[@jacobplayer2709]

The tiny little aliens came from Shaw, basically when her squid baby split out of its sack it spilled fluids all up in her and she slowly got sick, David thinks she may be infected and freezes her he then realizes that there's no way the engineers will help her or even allow them to live so he kills them, then tries to heal shaw but her xeno cancer has spread too far, so he tries to mutate her to heal her but that only killed her faster, David then looses his shit because now he's killed the only person he has ever truly loved, he couldn't heal her after she healed him, he realizes through his delusion that this is because humans are weak, they aren't built to last like an android, he then begins to study the cancerous little Xenos that killed Shaw and how they were able to thrive despite being actively attacked and killed, since shaws body is the only organic matter left on the planet he wishes to use her body to create a perfect organism, one that won't die on him, and who better to give him this gift, to make him Prometheus, but Shaw? He does love her that's why he made her a garden, but her body is only flesh, so he may start on her organs, eventually moving to the reproductive system where he would make the eggs. So when he was asked if he killed her he laments that he did, because to him failing to save her was killing her, but in order to create one must destroy, he loves his xenos not only because they are his children but because they are also shaws children, so shooting a Xeno to him would be like shooting his child with Shaw or even Shaw herself.

[@bk-go6905]

jacob lydon wow that's deep

[@LianCasablacks]

This thing was better than the whole movie.

[@ylparker5832]

Maybe, and that is why he said the Virus would attack food, but the humans would be food.

[@jojobaggins9224]

Now that's good. Maybe it'll make the final cut if enough people spread it

[@angelmarrero1360]

You should just make the next alien movie Bruh. This shit bout brought me to tears.

I think David waits and helps the crew because he knows the real prize are the 2000 frozen colonists he can use to experiment.

[@fallvegas]

I don't get why people don't see this as being about the only reason David needed. Seriously.

[@chaylynnpetherbridge6061]

Álvaro Prieto David was testing his creature. if the alien couldn't beat Shaw and Tennesee then it wasn't the perfect specimen.

[@richman3424]

Álvaro Prieto yes! that's what I thought it's not a far stretch to think it, it'd make sense he just go along with them to get them asleep and take over

[@ShadowlordDio]

also he needs a big army to conquer next engineer planet.and will do this until he proves himself to be better than a whole engineer race

[@thatevilchicken]

yeah and he even said he only cares about creation, not death

[@ashram12]

"There is no life what so ever". Shows a planet full of vegetation...I feel like the crew really could have been waaayyy more excited about the fact that plants existed in an alien planet.

[@levik6461]

Life as in birds, buggs and stuff

[@KeithElliott-zd8cx]

@@levik6461 life is plants, too. You mean animals, say 'animals', not life. Life is both, and more.

[@yojayuwannacomeouthere8519]

@@KeithElliott-zd8cxshut up

[@SamuelOfEarth]

It has 2 actors from Pineapple Express. I didn’t expect much once that was observed

[@vernonmodglin5502]

I feel the biggest misstep of Alien: Covenant, was eliminating Shaw's character and relegating her storyline to brief flashbacks. Rather than answer more questions about the engineers, Shaw, or David, we were fed the old, tired body count routine of poorly developed cast members similar to generic horror flicks.

[@dark666razor]

Or you know, disregard all that nonsense and just have a movie version of the comics. The one with Dr. Church where he lives with the aliens for a while, doing what they want until he eventually finds a way to sabotage the already sick hive and escape. From Aliens: Labyrinth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIWtgmWIeZWMaMU

[@07Trot]

Vernon Modglin i actually dont mind the mindless crew-killing parts so much as them destroying the mystery of the xenos that it seemed they were building up in prometheus.

[@Mieqo]

@@dark666razor Having Dr Church story-line before the Earth invasion wouldn't make much sense, but I see your point. Although I can't agree with the assesment, that all of the prequel stuff is nonsense. I love the depiction of engineers, it works design and lore wise. And they are much better than the weird elephant overpowered creatures that are supposed to represent the 'comic's version of engineers'.

[@TheDrakelicious]

I think that's the third movie. I hope.

[@cosmiccomedy7394]

They could have done a trilogy with the second movie being about Shaw and David's journey. Shaw definitely deserved better she was a great character and I feel like alot of people wanted to see how her story panned out.

[@ebayseller6040]

hated the movie as soon as all these "smart science folks" just started walking about in a brand new planet without a suit or helmet. like....wtf?

[@Mieqo]

You are mixing up Prometheus and Covenant. In Prometheus the crew were fancy science folks, in Covenant they were merely a settlers with a mission to build a new colony. It actually makes sense how dumb and careless they were.

[@billyponsonby]

Yep I agree. An what’s with the guns?

[@PiCheZvara]

@@Mieqo i listened to Ridley Scott's commentary on the blu ray. He specifically points out during the opening scenes that the crew are all top of the line, highly intellectual and inteligent people and all had to earn their position on the Covenant mission. The no helmets stuff is just retarded, lazy, no two ways about it.

[@nake89]

This movie sucked so much. Ridley has lost his goddamn mind.

[@jacksonestacado7409]

@@Mieqo With the way health and safety is at the moment in Australia. And how the Mars colonial program personnel are. There is not going to be anything like this happening. The investors, scientists and engineering specialists in first. Acting like they could build a settlement, let alone a dog kennel. How do they know if there isn't an unidentified contaminant? convid-20000? The landing team, would protest like mad. If they are volunteers. That's the end of my opinion on no. Here's mine on yes, they would do it, like that. If they aren't volunteers, but are an indentured slave workforce, working off sentences. Then yes absolutely, they would do this. They would want out of the ship to start a new life. And either, want to be a founder of the new settlement, run for the hills, burn it all around them and laugh, take over or do nothing. I am in Hr in construction. All depends on societies rules at the time.

[@owouwu3269]

I KNOW WHEAT

[@mikeweston6178]

OH YEAH.....I LIKE CHEESE

[@SaintDamain]

You're avatar fits your comment perfectly.

[@colourblind3213]

im not sure about that

[@titangaming8627]

WEEEEEEEED....

[@OnTheSpaceship0001]

OnO UnU

[@OsamaBinDarrel]

RIP Shaw 😢 she was such an interesting strong character !

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@vimalcurio she didn’t but she was stupid enough to get into that situation

[@stairwayto7816]

Plot twist: it actually is Walter and he's just playing a prank on Daniels.

[@rickrolled7985]

StairWayTo7 lmao

[@REX-gq6ur]

It's just a prank bruh.

[@bplusstudios9031]

REX ! David OFive

[@Zenith07]

Prank!?! that kill's

[@alexucon]

its a social experiment Bro!

[@BENJamin4001]

Weyland was already “dead” according to the rest of the world, no one knew he was still alive when he showed up on LV-223.

[@lilweedsea]

David is emotionally unstable cause he wasn’t meant to have emotions, he doesn’t know how to cope with them and he is extremely unstable because of it

[@mk_-8794]

So he’s more human then he thought.

[@wolfshanze5980]

Kinda like telling HAL to lie in 2001.

[@mansenclockworx8215]

I think he has the god complex

[@MetalizedButt]

Thanks captain

[@lilweedsea]

@@mansenclockworx8215 obviously, and it’s because he’s incapable of coping with his “human” desires in which he wasn’t even meant to develop in the first place so they blew out of control and made him what he is.

[@MUCKLEECH]

David helped the crew kill off the proto-xeno because his focus was on the two eggs that he had smuggled aboard inside him. He didn't care to help the alien because his ultimate goal was to continue his experiments on the passengers and the crew after they went into hyper sleep. This is all part of his whole god complex thing.

[@chrismeyers5963]

Eh not really, it was more to do with revenge because of how everyone had treated him ( Shaw's man, Mr. Weyland and his daughter ) I mean, they really treated him like shit in the 1st movie, Walter was treated way better than David ever was, at least the crew treated him like he belonged whereas David was treated like a damn Pariah, Shaw was just an unfortunate experiment because he had actually loved her but his curiosity got the best of him, even said it in the movie, I don't think David even really considered himself a " God " but more of Scientist hence why all the experiments

[@samanthasmith61]

@@chrismeyers5963 that's not true in the slightest! he literally said to mother to play god entrance to Valhalla or something, yes he had a god complex, did you even watch the movie! even if they didn't treat him like sht he would still do it, because from the very first scene David always had sinister conscious

[@chrismeyers5963]

@@samanthasmith61 Uh yeah I did, apparently you didn't because their treatment of him only exacerbated his behavior but hey say what you will and it will always be hilarious and no, he didn't start having a " God complex " until the 2nd film when he tried to say a quote and got corrected by Walter, I have both films so yes, I've watched them but nice try at being presumptuous lmao

[@samanthasmith61]

@@chrismeyers5963 you aren't very bright are you? but nice try

[@chrismeyers5963]

@@samanthasmith61 Apparently much brighter than you but I won't continue to argue with a girl, now go sit in a corner with ya dunce hat and be quiet, this conversation is over lol

[@EchoCT1409]

The merging happened in 2099. Prometheus is in 2093. Covenant is 2105, Alien is 2122, Aliens is 2179. These are the only canon movies we have as of now. Weyland Corp didn't search for Weyland because he went into cryosleep in secret. Everyone thought he was dead, very few knew of the truth. The Prometheus was a scientific expedition funded by a man thought to be dead. Why bother looking for it. The covenant was a colony mission 9 years away from earth, and that's with the Yutani Company faster than light speed hyperdrive. So, looking for them they couldn't afford. Face it, being the first wide spread colony mission, the covenant was a gamble. The company just wants to make money, capture the Xenomorph and the black goo for weapons, and make sure that human colony's will continue the human race so there are places to go if the company screws earth over.

[@rosemarywilliams9969]

Jacob Arner i agree with everything but what about Alien Resurrection? where does that fit in same actors.

[@MrPajamaShark]

James Franco's cameo in Alien: Covenant is stranger than any other

[@SuperDerp5]

His story line was longer, but his harassment if women came up; forcing them to make his cameo short, and losing him the oscar for that other movie .

[@jacimitchell7628]

His cameo in Wicker Man (2006) is pretty stance as well

[@deedee7780]

@@SuperDerp5 Ah makes sense! But I bet the bastard still got paid.

[@deedee7780]

@@jacimitchell7628 Is it worth a watch?

[@MetalizedButt]

@@jacimitchell7628 What about his cameo in the green hornet lmao

[@AirBulletin]

I dont think David knows what hes doing. Much like the Engineers, hes creating life but will soon regret it. It's even foreshadowed too. The neomorphs bow down too David, however, the Protomorph, sees David on the computer screen near the end of the movie and attacks him regardless. Davids reaction even shows that he is shocked that his baby did that. The 1 human emotion he does not understand is doubt. The creature he just created is much more animalistic in thought. It does not care about its maker and is only a hunter (Much like the Xenos.) So what I think will happen is, David Creates more Protomorph's, only for him to loose control as he does not understand why they don't bow down to him (Maybe he thought he could teach them) and this leads to more procreation between them eventually leading to the birth of a queen Xeno (The only thing Xenos and probably Protos listen too) making David Jealous and wanting to destroy his creation (Again, just like the engineers and humans)

[@g0ast]

Shaw was the original alien queen. Her eggs were mutated by David using the black goo into the facehugger eggs. The facehuggers were essentially "sperm" that carried alien eggs that "fertilized" their hosts with an alien that developed inside their bodies. That means Elizabeth Shaw started the xenomorphs and her DNA would be present inside all future xenomorphs as there had to be some mechanism that made facehuggers produce queen eggs, which then produced more eggs. Those future alien queens would have Shaw's DNA, too.

[@X2yt]

I'm quite sure that's not true. It's implied David was creator of the species due to his meddling with black goo, but Engineers had images of both Queen and regular Xenomorph on the walls of their ship on LV-223 before Prometheus ever got there. David could be the creator of human-derived xenomorphs, but considering Engineers created black goo as sort of bio weapon, it's entirely possible they in fact used that weapon on some other species, and have in fact seen xenomorphs that those species produced. It's actually pretty likely that the entire purpose of black goo was to create a xenomorph population that would eradicate life on a planet, then die out, preparing worlds for Engineer colonisation and experimentation, and every species infected by goo would produce their own unique kind of xeno, but the end-point of goo would always be some form of xenomorph. At its base, xenomorph is simply a black goo creature that combined with some extra genetic material from some other living organism. So pretty much all xenomorphs are the same at the very base, and all their different mutations are simply effects of that extra genetic material from different species combined with bare blueprint provided by goo.

[@o.c.g.m9426]

Wrong 😂😂😂

[@Richard_Hitler]

How so?@@o.c.g.m9426

[@JennifuhhGilardi]

In Prometheus they make it clear that Shaw can’t have children so idk about all that

[@namastehindustan9879]

She can't have human children ​@@JennifuhhGilardi

[@KeiOkubo]

Anyone else bothered by the fact that they didn't wear any head gear going onto the new planet? I get that they have crazy technology to see if it's safe to walk around in, but just for the mere fact that you could step on something and activate an airborne virus is hard to detect from the ship (wtf do i know tho?)...? This was an entertaining film, but it didn't really have much substance, imo.

[@Ensign_Cthulhu]

In the novelisation, David tells them _why_ their biohazard scan failed, and this IMO mitigates their failure in this regard. Their failure to find the ruined city and the associated crashed ships is another matter; there's a plot-hole you could fly the _Covenant_ herself through.

[@HateshWarkio]

The most odd thing is that they just landed on a planet with zero or almost zero living organisms/animals. Scans should be able to catch that at least. Like if it is a planet suitable for the life on the same scale as the Earth with a person known to be there then there should be life. At least several billions of species. Yet it is empty as fuck except for flora. There should be a scene where they land their ship and go outside in protective gear to make some scans and test and then go outside without any protective gear.

[@Ensign_Cthulhu]

It depends on what your scans are calibrated to pick up. If they are calibrated for biohazards, this generally only means "Are there harmful or lethal micro-organisms here?", which to an investigative team doing a quick look around for a "distress signal" is all they need to know before deciding on spacesuits vs. what they actually wore. If you are doing a complete survey for all life, that's quite another matter. The computers are just computers - if you ask them an incomplete question, they will give you an incomplete answer. Clearly if they had managed to get back to orbit without disturbing or becoming infected with anything, a heated argument would then have ensued regarding the planet's suitability for settlement, but I suspect we would have had Oram on the "It's empty, it's perfect, let's set down" side and Daniels on the "Fuck, no; not without a comprehensive radar map of the entire surface" side. That would have revealed the dead city, crashed ships, possibly even corpses etc. (depending on how good their instruments were), and that's the point at which they ideally report their find and then hightail it the fuck out of there to their original destination. If you ask me, they ought to have waited for the storms to clear and done a decent surface mapping before they even sent the lander down, but I'm not the scriptwriter so what do I know?

[@Ensign_Cthulhu]

The first reason to land is Shaw's signal - arguably justified. The second is to have a general look-around and assess as a potential diversion for colonisation. They have a damaged ship and a dead captain, and Oram is probably desperate to get his 2000 colonists on the ground and rid himself of a responsibility he never really wanted rather than have to spend an extended period in space with multiple further jumps and risk the same thing happening again. Such is his reasoning and perhaps it is justifiable, but his approach is rushed and lackadaisical - I would not have sent anyone down without spending at least a week in orbit doing a full ground survey - and if weather prevented that, the best option would have been to leave.

[@The_Foxymew]

Do we really know how powerful their scans are? I mean, the Alien franchise always had this low-tech sci-fi aesthetic to it (Not so much in the newest movies) I mean, in the originals, everything was green CRT monitors and stuff, it's an awesome aesthetic that I absoloutely love. But I mean, how can you really scan for 'harmfull micro organisms' you can't. Don't even know how you could ever scan for lifeforms either, closest thing I can think of is infra-red, and that's not exactly a foolproof plan. Also, realistically, the chance of anything on another planet being able to interact with humans on any level is insanely low. I mean, it takes millions of interactions between man and animal for us to get diseases (Where most plagues came from, and why they only came from Large cities in Europe) So from a different planet? NO chance. Though of course, we know that the Engineers had a hand in the game, but I don't even think that humans have encountered ANY aliens at that point in the movies. It's a bit since I saw the movie, and my memory isn't the worst, I don't remember all the flavour text dialogue. But Yeah. You can't really 'scan' things so easily. Especially with interference. Storms, you don't know how the magnetic field there works etc. I will agree they could have taken more care though. They also should have been a lot more on edge about any potential harms, like when someone starts seeming sick, your first instinct should be "Space malaria, quarantine now!"

[@danielnguyen5591]

There's no one else on youtube who explains and review movies better than you do! Keep up the good work.

[@ShanaJahsintaWalters]

I am enjoying the channel too.

[@akathetruthteller]

good work. it makes sense that maybe david didn't actually have to kill shaw himself. shaw's health was in decline due to the black goo....

[@happywheeler6389]

Daniel Nguyen emergency awesome but hes TV would love if they did a collaboration

[@tomniraq]

I watched half a dozen other videos on this topic and none of them even came close to his analysis and theories. Like Daniel said, best on KZbin!

[@originalwhistle9225]

Daniel Nguyen that's true

[@TheMinarus]

"You Blow...I'll do the Fingering..." -David

[@burningnapalm4436]

TheMinarus woah there

[@aatreyobanerjee4216]

🤣😂🤣

[@gabopr1365]

TheMinarus thanks but N O T H A N K S

[@sugartbube]

😂😂😂😂 yo. Yeah i lmao too

[@serenemountain6769]

he was uploading is software to Walter ... he had to be distracted!

[@ronaldnichols1636]

Was hoping for something a lot more like Prometheus. There was a cool opportunity to expand the Alien universe beyond the xenomorph even more.

[@jovanramirez8682]

I never really wanted the aliens.. The prometheus to me is just great. The storyline of Dr shaw and finding our creators is just so beautiful to me.

[@kim20525]

JovansLyf exe yes I enjoyed it

[@serenemountain6769]

David is looking for them for ya...

[@graysonschoonover1109]

My friend God is our Creator, but the movie did seem to progress a little faster than it should have, the spores to full fledged alien seemed really fast.

[@ssdivizion]

And who created the so-called creators? :0)

[@riproar11]

@@ssdivizion You go to math class, you hear about infinity, you don’t question it and accept it as the word. But for some reason when it comes to God as a creator why are you all of a sudden questioning the likeliness of an eternal/infinite being?

[@thexiafury3104]

Wait, I never saw that prologue scene with shaw repairing David in alien covenant in the theater

[@Dustie1984]

well it wasn't there, so no wonder! that part was only on youtube.

[@Captain_Rhodes]

that stuff should have been the whole movie. not just another action shootout

[@tillinginagrave1]

Its like wtf we never got the full story hate watching commercials

[@rivertrash9862]

I still get goosebumps when she realizes he's David, that was a great scene.

[@seandonahue8464]

I saw Alien at age 15, loved it. I don’t know why Prometheus gets such grief. I really loved it too. I thought the Engineer was great, David and Shaw too!

[@randomgamer2531]

Bruh i saw it when i was 6 and it traumatized me ( in 2011 )

[@marinerx]

Just like Shaw, we'll never get the answers we want

[@Russ96]

But she already asked the fucking Engineers in PM and it went crazy and killed her crew. That's the point: she'll never get an answer from them. They made life "because they could" and "curiosity killed the cat" is mentioned in Alien: Covenant. Therefore it's fucking obvious that Shaw basically deserved to be murdered because she asked these questions in the first place.

[@marinerx]

Remember on the ending of Prometheus, Shaw and David resumes on their supposed mission to find more engineers for answers instead of returning to Earth.

[@marinerx]

And Shaw didn't ask the engineer, Weyland shut her down and ask the Engineer for more life (the true purpose of the Prometheus mission), pissing off the engineer

[@marinerx]

Oh wait I missed your point, sorry

[@jvokaltheofficial]

And you see the engineer snapped and tried to kill David automatically because he noticed David was A.I and was far to capable with very little sense or morality. Shaw shouldve known something was up w David from that very moment.

[@ultratankie]

I've enjoyed both Prometheus and Covenant, but I have to say, the idea that the xenomorph is an artificial creation seems antithetical to what I always took away from the original Alien film. As I understood it, the point of that movie was that the alien is an example of the horrifying things space might be capable of producing; humans having become the apex species on Earth after numerous extinction events, our intelligence, culture, and morality is probably pretty rare. Most dominant species *would* be more like the xeno, not the Engineers or most other sci-fi races.

[@happyspaceinvader508]

Fallout Junkie Yes, it is a disappointing and unsatisfying revelation. But we live in an age in which people don't like mystery, and are happy to "fill the gaps" with invisible sky wizards (or alien master races) and intelligent design... rather than accept the (perhaps more mundane) explanation provided by evolutionary biology. But evolutionary biology is complicated, and too difficult for the illiterati to understand, as demonstrated by their frequently misrepresentation of what "evolution" means. See the very first scene in Covenant for a classic example.

[@peste2574]

Wait, you got it all wrong from the first movie! From the first movie we KNOW that the Alien is a bioweapon. He isn't natural, he's a weapon of mass destruction. Duuude, how can you get something to backwards?

[@OneAndOnlyMe]

He wasn't ranting. What he said is rational.

[@ceoge4887]

CJ P He just said the truth dumbass.

[@yvesheinrich5013]

But we also learn that said weapon of mass destruction, A.K.A, the parasite, can evolve. Also, don't forget that the Xenomorph including its primitive versions in the prequels are all not intelligent species. Just carnivorous.

[@NabilKarsheh]

Well if David took Walters data and codes he would have known about the cabin, right?

[@whitefata12]

more like I feel like he hijacked and deleted walter from his own body and transfer himself to it

[@dirtylizardneck3890]

I think its just a way he let her know he is not Walter cause he is a sadistic fuk and enjoyed it

[@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw]

+Darren Matthews Walter heals from small "injuries," David does not. You could see he had a small tear on his face, even if your theory were true, the Walter body would have healed the cut

[@therealoldnosey8689]

This is why i struggle to like these movies

[@LokisLadyCrazy]

That actually makes sense. More than assimilating the chip, cause the chip would have had the cabin reference. So just playing a body snatcher, that wouldn't have it.

[@mrcordell865]

David didn't want Daniel's to die because he wants her to be his new shaw, he was honestly relieved when she popped her head up and he saw she was not sucked into space. Wayland Corp didn't send anybody to look for Wayland because they thought he had been dead for years before he left on Prometheus

[@My2Cents1]

Foundflix.. you got it backwards. The wheat originated on the Engineer planet, and they brought it to Earth for their creation to be able to grow food. Didn't you notice how that wheat is 3 times the size of our wheat? And then there is the whole symbolic biblical stories with mana (grain) from the heavens, ancient aliens teaching humanity agriculture, etc etc... It's kind of a symbolic scene but that seemed to have gone over your head...

[@happyspaceinvader508]

My2Cents Yeah, the von Däniken shit in this movie is what completely turns me off. It's directed by an anti-science conspiracy nut, for anti-science conspiracy nuts. Personally, I like my Science Fiction to have some basis in science.

[@carrieanneatreides6240]

My2Cents Yup

[@khal7723]

My2Cents engineers didn't even create humans, try again.

[@casualhamburger9607]

VOID I bet your a liberal snowflake❄ so go back too your safe space

[@octavianschaefer7294]

This movie is a prime example of what happens when a director gives into his fans demands, despite his fans not truly understanding the directors intentions with the movie’s lore yet. Ridley mapped out a great story about creation and the engineers, that would’ve most likely provided very philosophical and dark reasonings behind not only humanity, but the xenomoprhs as well. But he scrapped all that at the response of Prometheus, and gave the fans what they wanted: more Alien gore. What a wasted opportunity for something that could’ve been amazing.

[@captainbarbossa5325]

Ikr I actually don’t like the other alien movies. Prometheus and Covenant gripped me good and I wanted answers to questions I never had before. I don’t care for aliens running amok on a ship I want to know about DNA evolution and creationism

[@yurimodin7333]

I think it has more to do with Riddley beleiving his own bullshit......all this esoteric for the sake of it is ruining these prequels.

[@funby]

And on the other side of the spectrum you have GoT S8, Dexter S8, HIMYM S9

[@91lifetime23]

Ridley did not wanted to have more aliens in Covenant but the studio demanded it because of the lack of it in Prometheus

[@radrook7584]

I am not sure that most fans wanted more alien gore. I think most shared the Saw's character's need to know, and were far more curious with who the Engineers were, and how they were related to mankind's creation. I think that most fans, especially those who were fascinated by the film's religious implications, felt themselves cheated when they realized that the Shaw Character would not be included, and that a host of other characters, who had not experienced her ordeal nor her ambitions,, were suddenly introduced. Also that instead of getting to the answer as Shaw had hoped, they were introduced to these disgusting mindlessly violent critters rampaging about again.

[@WaWestie]

"David stabs walter with a flute, walter, unlike david is able to heal himself, leading to a *waltercation*"

[@loonanite]

That scene where that chick accidentally blows up the ship is hilarious.

[@taymazbeatz6956]

She so stupid

[@distone2480]

Bruh 7/10 that would be what most of us would do. Unless we are like the rock from doom, you would panic quickly.

[@eyesofstatic9641]

@@distone2480 you're not wrong though. Most of us would've panic fired too lol and blowing up would be a preferable way to go too

[@awakege6337]

Hi Venom

[@MrSkullkid60]

@@eyesofstatic9641 hem she actually died by burning to death, so it’s not preferable at all lol

[@teamjacob4eva]

i really loved prometheus and hated what they did to shaw's character :/

[@jeffpearlman6643]

Prince Lotor I know, you'd think after all that backlash with newt in alien 3 that Ridley would not kill off a main character from the previous film off screen for no reason :/

[@andrewmorales3580]

Prince Lotor I KNOW. My heart dropped to see her that way... He mutilated her :'(

[@eoinokane9405]

Get Rekt Shaw

[@xyzeffect]

I was bummed to see shaw had died :(

[@FolkLaurr]

The 2 scenes we got before release was not in the movie, thats where they really fucked up.

[@olliethecat3291]

I don't think the facehugger infected Lope like you said, even if it was on him for a second. When Lope, Daniels, and "Walter" get on Tennessee's ship, "Walter" takes the patch off Lope's cheek and places another one on him. I like to think "Walter" placed something on the patch and onto his cheek wound to infect him.

[@ModestPilgrim1]

Cambo 99 exactly what I think happened!!!

[@ralphh4131]

Cambo 99 he gave him a shot

[@HateshWarkio]

But you need David's facehugger to get a protomorph. The only thing that could David give him would be black goo or black spores but that would create neomorph. And if you would need just something so small and unnoticible to create protomorph then there's no point in creating ovomorphs and facehuggers.

[@shadowa1ien473]

then why did the proto come out of the chest..?

[@jackd233]

Cambo 99 David had a alien embryo in his mouth and spit it in his throat to infect him. 😭😭😭

[@TheOneTrueErica]

I heard a theory that believed David might have implanted his personality into Walter's body, essentially taking him over. This could explain how David was able to impersonate Walter so quickly in Covenant, as well as how he gained access to Walter's security codes for the ship.

[@atlas8827]

i also think this was the case.

[@BlackAdder1970]

I agree. It would also help David to "Self repair" thus avoiding his body being damaged like in Prometheus and needing someone to repair him. He could technically live forever

[@renrarity7392]

I would like to believe that cause that sounds awesome if David did do that but one thing... In the movie where “Walter”/David was putting stables in himself to close his wounds that weren’t even that big when they could health up easily since they were small anyways why would he need to do that when Walter could repair himself, and if you look at his hand, it looks cut off not burnt, because Walters hand was burnt when he punched that alien in the face and the acid destroyed his hand making it look burnt, instead at the end it looks like it was a clean cut not all messy looking, so it was David all along and Walters actually on the planet still which sucks. David probably killed Walter but before completely killing Walter, David took Walters chip and that’s how he got the codes... But that doesn’t explain how he didn’t know about the cabin, if he took the chip then wouldn’t he get all stuff about the cabin? And wouldn’t he get updated to the version Walter was at?? Like become less human and then he could have the healing or repair ability? Not sure on how to answer those....

[@abjowsey]

Then why didnt his face cuts heal?

[@abjowsey]

@@renrarity7392 probably movie mistakes. No movie doesnt have em

[@adrian8880]

So if David knows Walter’s codes because he transferred his knowledge to himself, wouldn’t he also know about the cabin?

[@mase_moves5930]

Maybe it’s not that he didn’t know about the cabin but choose to, in that moment, while should couldn’t do anything about it, basically tell her her life is lie and he’s not Walter, he’s David by sayin “don’t let the bedbugs bite” … like I feel like when she asked for help to build the cabin David’s face just looked like he wanted to say “bih I ain’t helping build shit but a new alien foh” js

[@cecilitaH]

@@mase_moves5930 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Jdjsushdbuxuhs]

Shhh it’s a movie bud

[@mr287s]

What happened to Shaw is SO disturbing.

[@ariesqueen8364]

Sean Rourke I wonder what he said to her before she died?

[@iidirectxii7545]

Sean Rourke And his going to do the same shit to Daniels, and her knowing that before going into hypersleep is fucking disturbing. Personally I loved the movie and the ending cliffhanger just added to the movie.

[@iidirectxii7545]

ava ruth Hopefully that is explained in Awakening

[@Meg_Lovegood]

Sean Rourke it was awesome

[@jmlkhan5153]

the sheer unrelenting darkness of this movie makes me love it so very much. alien movies aren't supposed to be happy or end well.

[@ToniBingi]

there is no life, but there's wheat... wheat=plant plant=life

[@MastaSmack]

You're that guy that gets everyone killed because you had to clarify something...everyone knows he meant life forms like deer, rabbits, grasshoppers....life that could pose a threat.

[@michaelmcgee2026]

@@MastaSmack 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MastaSmack]

Yes, I know Sgt. Daniels shouted "OPEN FIRE!" but I wasn't sure if he wanted me to shoot my weapon, or if he had spotted a fire out in the open somewhere...by the time I figured it out it was too late...

[@bazirancovek]

Not just wheat. There are other plants. I think its addresed in the movie that the goo mostly afected animals (including engineers) but not plants. It had efect on fungi as it made those fungi-spore-black-goo shits

[@joelmarshall308]

Sentient life🙄

[@rolandcox8247]

Moral off the story: dont freaking leave earth.

[@JokerTONG]

Never get out of the boat!

[@regular7156]

@616e6f6e Actually, about A.I. Do not attempt to make your own creation stronger than you are.

[@rossgeography]

then try to put it back together - fly less, eat less meat and recreate less (we are locust)

[@hitendrasingh6979]

@616e6f6e yeah who goes on a unknown planet without a proper gear and i dont know why a colonist ship had to underatke such scouting missions like just report it

[@hitendrasingh6979]

@@regular7156 You can make them superior but dont give them Emotions or try to make them more human...Its a Master-Servant Relation at the end why you have to give them emotions they just need to follow orders

[@BMiren-bc6ye]

I always thought that the black spores (which may be liquid or not, depending on atmosphere) probably interacted differently with different life forms --- and David studying Shaw's body was because the engineers ended up dying from the spores and not mutating the way having a human host would lead it to.

[@jouchi97]

From the moment i saw the movie i have been asking the same question. Why the f*** does an androids hair grow?

[@ngand660]

NRGdrink he has growing abilities. you can see walters arm growing back and david tries to grow back

[@locosabe7894]

wtf?

[@tursiopss]

NRGdrink me too xDD

[@cliffordcooke3203]

NRGdrink I'm guessing it was part of the attempt to make androids more human like, as stated in covenant and Prometheus.

[@ngand660]

Herb Coswell no after death hair growth stops for humans

[@xavierfranco5800]

Most likely what happens is that David deleted Walter's personality programming and uploaded his own into Walter's body. That explains the ability to heal, he switched bodies. Now in Walter's body, he has access to his knowledge and security codes and updated data on everything he's missed out on by being stuck on the planet. He upgraded himself without having to downgrade his original personality programming.

[@Aileron90]

your theory doesn't work because he would have knowledge about the log cabin she was talking about at the end.

[@Gavolak]

@@Aileron90 Pretty sure it was just a huge oversight by the writers

[@Krashevil]

@@Aileron90 I think he intentionally didn't say anything about the log cabin to watch her dread in the sleep pod.

[@holow3038]

I think that he was David all along he just cut his hand to look like him, Walter can heal himself even from mortal injuries but he didn't heal at all that small damage on his face.

[@4nakinSkywalker]

What if it’s Walter though 😮

[@dorianruiz918]

Anyone else wanted the xenomorph and the neomorph to face off

[@codyevett2098]

They did, the movie just didn't show it. Read the novelization, it's in there,

[@preachymink9468]

Cody Evett who won?

[@EpicFace83]

preachy Mink if I remember the xeno did. Point of it was to show how dominant the xenomorph was in comparison.

[@cradleofdeath123]

xenomorphs will win...

[@vernonmatzke]

i would rather see the xenomorphe face off against the protomorph

[@billbixby923]

I was intrigued by Prometheus while not fully understanding some of their choices upon first viewing. After watching it a couple of times I wanted them to expound and build upon that origin story. If they committed to that instead of caving to fan service Alien Covenant could have been one of the best in the Alien franchise. Instead, I've only seen it once.

[@TURTWIG094]

Majority of viewers aren’t the sophisticated type that enjoy deep and complex storyline’s , they just want alien action/killing and a typical horror film it’s just sad

[@Monkeymahenmiester]

@@TURTWIG094 unfortunately that's what sells more

[@AdoreYouInAshXI]

It's much better on a second viewing. On the first viewing I spent so much time waiting for Shaw to come into the film, or waiting for some Prometheus tie in's. And I ended up extremely disappointed. On the second viewing I knew more what to expect obviously, and I took it for what it was. A simple Aliens film. Sure it didn't have the groundbreaking lore I wanted it to have, but I did enjoy it much more the 2nd time around after knowing what to expect. I also appreciated the intricate differences between Walter and David, and Fassbenders incredible acting.

[@Richard_Hitler]

Honestly I don't necessarily mind the concepts used in the films but they don't really feel like they belong in the franchise of Alien, I think thats the main complaint. Also I doubt the story is that sophisticated.@@TURTWIG094

[@ris3-xi918]

So seeing that David loved Shaw, you can gather from the fact that she was visibly ill and from the looks of things didn't have a lot of food or medicines incase of illness. It also shows that map with the multiple planets they visited. I estimate about a couple months that they were in space and it looks like she didn't pack nearly enough supplies. I draw a conclusion that Shaw died due to a sickness caused from the black goo, the lack of food and water made it worse, and no medicine, plus being in that dark ship doesn't really help either. David then experimented on her body.

[@ai_is_a_great_place]

It's 230 but I had to wake up to watch this

[@ReddeSpectre]

John Wetzel thumbs up for someone with the same name as me

[@Rapture-Asuka]

win for Mountain Time Zone peeps!

[@konosekainoseigi7913]

LOL, same

[@raycanales]

try 0416 here

[@blobber90blobb82]

Lol its 11:36 here

[@thefilmeffect6089]

David is, without a doubt, the most interesting character in the entire Alien franchise.

[@SexyButCurious]

The Film Effect Best Android ever besides maybe Bishop.

[@jmlkhan5153]

comics, books, games and novels included. david is rad.

[@espritfort9890]

+The Film Effect, the franchise now has it's fully-fledged Mary Sue! How interesting (not).

[@matthewnelson6103]

The David/Walter interactions were the best parts of the movie

[@SnizelOfficial]

Nah, the guy shouting "It's game over, man! game over!" from Aliens is the most interesting.

[@neptuneninja]

David kept the crew alive because he needs living host for the alien embryos and other experiments. The illustrations and detailed blueprints makes me feel it's implied in the movie. I know, don't think about it too much because the thoughts become beyond terrifying. I suppose that's why the Alien series is so amazing!

[@robbirk762]

wait..so franco is dead before the movie begins? the fuck?? then why even have him?? I can only wonder at the cost to get some of these actors...

[@tursiopss]

Rob Birk yeah, he only appears in a short video from an ipad xDD

[@cliffordcooke3203]

Rob Birk he has a presence in the prologue set before they sleep but that was cut from the movie

[@Gr1Gr2Gr3]

They also had Patrick Wilson in a very minor role in Prometheus.

[@aw4591]

they filmed more with him but it was cut out.

[@donluchitti]

Having Franko die like that, is another layer of metaphor that Ridley to showcase the parallel to the motif of creation in the movie. (Destruction, which arguably really is what "creation" is all about in Alien Covenant)

[@caster9806]

Here I am still wondering what happened to the Deacon in Prometheus.

[@techsavvyhero]

He made his badass debut at the end of Prometheus then.....Mic Drop! :)

[@babyray5643]

What happened to It is irrelevant, its purpose on screen was to show us that it exists, that's it

[@Vulpio7775]

According to fire and stone, it turned into an organic mountain.

[@calixto3754]

It turned into a mountain

[@Drewzdev]

avp.fandom.com/wiki/Fire_and_Stone apparently has the answer.

[@gaganjosan420]

that was not Engineers Homeland. It was another civilization created by Engineers like us. People on that planet look different from Engineers from Prometheus. Also, engineers had advanced Technology millions of years ago that planet looks like without technology. It was probably another civilization established by Engineers.

[@xyoungdipsetx]

Gagan Josan your right

[@ambarhernandez3949]

True, even the statues of their “gods” or whoever they follow are significantly different than the ones we see in Prometheus.

[@bent2461]

They are like vault tec

[@Lamadredetuamigo]

Both the novelization and the production notes describe them as Engineers and they in fact had more ships in the planet, but they were disabled in order to stop the mutagen.

[@Yourdadnude]

Gagan Josan I feel it

[@LAHFaust]

The Weyland-Yutani merger probably was already underway when the Prometheus mission launched since Weyland mentions that it was extremely expensive, even for him. I felt that the spores released over paradise were actually genetically modified Black Goo that David had created. I also never got the idea that the spores wiped out all life on the entire planet, just around Paradise. There were probably other cities around the planet and/or outposts/farmers that David then harvested for genetic material.Chestbursters have arms, though they're tiny and have practically no range of motion. As for the wound on David from the nail, she stabbed him under the chin or even in the throat, which he may have covered up somehow. David also doesn't use Walter's security code to open the vault at the end, he uses HIS security code, implying that David may have root access to Weyland's systems built into himself. He says "David (alphanumeric code here)" to open the doors. As for his playing Wagner's 'Walhalla,' it's the same song Weyland had David play during their first meeting.

[@glodend]

David impersonating Walter is classic "evil twin" plotting. Saw it coming right away.

[@peste2574]

Could be worse. THere might have been a: "Shoot him, not me!"

[@laalaag2auntyayag776]

LOL, true true true... I read somewhere that Ridley Scott intended for the viewer to suspect it, so mission accomplished huh

[@thealien_ali3382]

David Gloden same

[@neverdeadjustasleep7]

If David had implanted Walter's chip to gain his knowledge and ability to heal; would he have known about the cabin talks Walter had with that one chick? 🤔

[@CrashCraftLabs]

unless the chip only provided him with limited date or had to reformatt for the transfer

[@roy9161]

He doesn't know about the cabin, because the lady panic when she was going to Hyderabad

[@Buzani27]

"You thought it was Walter but it was me David" try saying this in Dio's voice

[@Bourgly]

Kono David da

[@nicholasdickens2801]

When it comes to the 'black goo/stuff' and it's unlimited properties - I think this is just down to the scriptwriters making it all up as it plods along.

[@cetitan5385]

Nicholas Dickens well I wouldn't say unlimited properties, it's mainly just instant death or infection/mutation

[@nicholasdickens2801]

cE TiTAN I was just being a bit facetious in the way that it seems to do whatever the scriptwriter of the hour wants to do it with it. :)

[@alaskaslem]

"A little anaemic without the orchestra." Weyland Then at the end when we hear "enters Valhalla " late with the orchestra it shows how much more david can do with all the embryos and colonists he had now.

[@chrisbeal5491]

Man your channel has BLOWN UP! Congratulations Foundflix!

[@CloroxBleach-ob2jm]

Oh fr?

[@joseavalos1464]

Chris Beal I

[@damianwatson9430]

Chris Beal ii

[@lukeprimu1620]

Chris Beal I

[@electricdog4378]

Chris Bea

[@chad872]

I love how these “deep dives” are never really deep ties they just narrate what happens in the film

[@alexleija7895]

I get that and I feel like your right in that way about a lot of his videos, but I feel like he really went in depth with this one.

[@JakeSibley-ql9sq]

I just show up for the comments for answers for the same reason

[@ws3369]

Alien should now be called robot

[@juris789]

Alien is basically a comeback from Terminators unsuccessful Skynet by moving on from 1 robots error.

[@peste2574]

Alien franchise was never really about the Alien.

[@LumpyAdams]

Leonidas Pereira Haha fuck you Alien apologists are sad.

[@hotcoldman77]

The themes really flew over your head now didn't they

[@Bhamofficer328]

Why did the not show the "Last Supper" scene?? It actually showed them laughing and having fun even showed James Franco before he was burned up.. They deleted a lot of scenes like the one above and the one with David and Shaw, I seen these scenes on another video and if they would of put them in it would of made the movie a little better at least!!

[@chloeflagler-hess3426]

Wait but how does an android's hair grow

[@deodatlawson8877]

chloe flagler-hess android is half human half robot so there’s definitely some parts that are organic

[@chloeflagler-hess3426]

@@deodatlawson8877 Oh my defination of android is a robot that looks like a human, and cyborgs are usually part human and part machine, but this sci-fi so whatever lol

[@uhighoffbrack]

it’s a fucking robot nigga you can program it to do whatever you want (growing hair, growing parts) whatever

[@leeman2007]

Nerdddddddddddds

[@BerdoRules]

He got that weave, yo.

[@carni3665]

The concept from Prometheus had so much potential to give rise to an intricate movie universe, but its sequel and the movie's own story pretty much set it up for failure. I would have loved to watch this unfold into an action/adventure series with a GOOD story.

[@bbqboi182]

Is it just me or am I the only one who liked Prometheus. It was amazing besides the Charlize theron I am your father scene.

[@rosemarywilliams9969]

CandyInAVan no...l loved it too just wanted more in the plot.

[@Johnny-yw3sr]

That scene was fine the rest of the movie was horrible

[@edsmith1757]

No I loved Prometheus because I thought it was a step into an expanded world only for it all to collapse with covenant and DAVID THE CREATOR OF THE ALIEN FFS.

[@KJC21793.]

No, I’m a fan of Prometheus. Without it, we wouldn’t have the Prometheus School of Running Away from Things.

[@Spartan11117777]

I loved the Visuals, the Setting and the Technology...I just wish some of the Scientists were smarter and had common sense.

[@DIANAS5657]

I thought the guy who had the encounter with the face hugger on the planet got infected when David changed his bandage. Also, I was not sure why the synthetic would not fight the alien and not the humans. The movie was disappointing as the crew brought everything on themselves. A captain who wanted to be liked going to the planet based on crew recommendation. No helmets or protective gear for an unknown planet. No protocols for infected people. The captain finds a crew member dead with David telling him not to shoot the alien, so he still trusts and follows David? Crew members going off on their own to investigate. The new captain not thinking David could have replaced Walter. Cutting he his hair was not a red flag. Walter thinking he could reason with David. The original alien movies were much smarter. This movie was insulting.

[@notakebaks]

D Smith Seems human. People are stupid and egotistical

[@hiddenraider7440]

yeah I think they were going for almost a new story but not quite if you know what I mean.. like this movie had a lot of similarities to alien. And to expain your argument on why they didn't have protective gear is cause they arnt sure what anything can do yet. this is before ripley so you gotta put that to insight

[@fidalf99]

"The movie was disappointing as the crew brought everything on themselves"? Dude.... That's a plot point of like EVERY Alien movie to date (maybe except for Alien 3? ). Alien? Yea, the crew were naive when bringing John Hurt back on board and underestimating protocols. Also The company's interference. Aliens? Again, the company aka humans brought the xenomorph shitstorm on their heads. Same goes for Ressurection (if you're willing to admit that movie exists... Which i'm not.) Seriously, that's a misleading argument. I'm not saying the crew weren't dumbasses, which they clearly were.... Just saying the human cast are always dumbasses in the whole Alien franchise.

[@VideoGameAnimationStudy]

But wasn't Weyland meant to be dead anyway? And his presence on the Prometheus was a secret? So the company wouldn't have known he was on it anyway?

[@Striker163videos]

Well he was believed dead.

[@bent2461]

They didn't know at first but then found out

[@iamtrappedonanisland998]

Yes to his company he was dead which is why it was supposed to be an " ooooh " moment but wasnt.

[@ralphramsey82]

I think they tried too hard to expand the movies universe, and now there’s too much to keep up with

[@sinjace]

Also, an overlook here on the Neomorph is that David seemed to design with a purpose, almost like guard dogs. He mentions that blowing air in its nostrils seems to immediately domesticate them for life, which he proves by blowing in the Neo's nostrils, which immediately drops its guard and calms down. I saw this as similar to Avatar's relationship with the Navi and the dragons. Once a connection is made with one, it lasts for life, and it would follow you. We also understand why the Neomorph got so close to the woman before beheading her. It was giving her a chance to domesticate it. It seems it could be in its biological makeup to at least try to give itself to another being. Note that the Neo only bit off her head once she reached for the gun, and she changed from being a potential master to being a target--the Neo's survival instincts having turned on. He was quite docile before that. It did however kill a lot of people before that, but that was under a 'war zone'. Once it found a human alone and unarmed, it tried to give itself to them. This also explains why it became docile when it encountered the unarmed David again. Giving another person the chance to domesticate them. Knowing this would lead me to believe that David has done this before, however, needing protection from nothing as he was alone and giving it more value as a research subject, David killed one and studied it. Which we can see pieces off in David's table. Or perhaps David simply learned of this peculiarity when encountering one in the past and realising what happened once it did. However, this would be unlikely as David being an Android, he would not need to breathe. Unless it is in functions to simulate breathing unconsciously as a human does to appear more human.

[@MaxHinaNaru]

So basically bio-weapon attack dogs?

[@sinjace]

More for guarding than attacking I would say. But then again, a guard dog does attack.

[@DisabledDolphinGAMEPLAY]

I just wanted Walter to survive and David to fucking die.

[@YTSProduction]

*WALTER YOU WILL BE MISSED* ￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣

[@thealien_ali3382]

THE SPIRITARCHER it's a he and riddly has confirmed he is dead

[@emperor1722]

don't act like u care

[@porkybeans1154]

He didn't die it was David

[@porkybeans1154]

Dat One Guy no he didn't David killed Walter and took his place

[@porkybeans1154]

Dat One Guy shut up you stupid little **** you don't have the knowledge to disagree

[@EricBarthDev]

I've never sat through someone talking about a movie.. until now..and I did it for 2 of your videos in a row. I appreciate your efforts and methods.

[@rosemarywilliams9969]

10th time seeing. so David did know about the cabin. he just wanted her to know he is David because one person knowing the truth is better than being alone with your plans😋

[@jamielovetodance]

I want the next movie to he about the mission of giantic humanoid creatures that happened before Prome and Cov.

[@DaCrazyMofo]

Check out kroft talks about movies he explains everything from an original script he managed to obtain

[@trod146]

Samir Khan sounds like you're the one who does. Creep

[@MarvelousPhilly]

Or at least a flashback. Wouldn't want an entire movie just based on them. It wouldn't really be an Alien movie.

[@MarvelousPhilly]

Samir Khan Yeah, that was super gay, idiot.

[@Shovi_]

@ Marvelous Beats Gaming I don't want an Alien movie, there's enough of those, i want a movie that explains the engineers and what they were doing.

[@adamwebb8114]

David had a sense of relief when Daniels survived because his experimentation isn't complete.. He still needs to create the queen and is definitely going to use her for this purpose

[@noahmurrayhurley6736]

I feel like most people focused on David and his nuances that don’t quite match up but most importantly is that David has a way of working with the Aliens and clearly shows that David has a deeper connection with the developing alien embryos. David’s strange mess of emotional confusion causes him to create a more agressieve and primal form of life while with a form of emotional connection (aka Daniels) makes a large difference in how he works on his “perfect organism” leading to the creation of a more malicious and intent creation that while he plans to make a perfect creation there is a mix of emotion and human person to make the very malevolent and stalking alien that was seen in the original movie

[@VeNoMziV]

I took david saying "what i did to her" as him saying he would be experimenting on her corpse

[@stormrising2623]

That's how I took it too, but probably it's both. It was clear as I watched it again, so was probably going to rape her, but then definitely experiment on her too.

[@BarbaDjole]

The problem with Prometheus and Covenant is that they try to set up future movies, and not be good movies on their own.

[@dylandruryformerlyyungjabb3913]

Djordje Petrovic very true i think both movies are above average but cud have been better

[@Lycidas3232]

you might be right, but imo covenant hold the balance pretty well.

[@DPRX99]

So many movies are doing this nowadays.

[@johnchapley716]

the only thing i really noticed while watching the movie was when the captain shoots and kills the adult white neomorph with about 5 bullets but when they're getting attacked by a newborn neomorph earlier the whole crew must have shot the thing atleast a dozen times and it runs away???

[@ElenaBG3]

MOVIE LOGIC

[@maxwellsope3629]

John Chapley if you see closely the captain first shot is where the heart is, after that one of the bullets hit the head. the other new born neo-morph was shot more yes but everyone was freaking out and I don't think they landed lethal shots on it.

[@Joawlisdoingfine]

Maxwell Sope Exactly, we dont know where and how their organs function, and when he did shoot the neomorph, it was standing upright allowing easy shots to the vital organs, however when they shot before he was hunched over, protecting his front body

[@chasebarber10]

Maybe its newborn form is more resilient?

[@remo687]

They did shoot and kill the one neomorph that bit off Walter's hand once they had a clear shot. The second smaller one was attacking and on top of that one woman so they couldn't get a clear shot before David shot the flare and scared it off. Plus it seems that many weren't such good shots and probably clean missed the second smaller neo.

[@raspyraspberries]

Shaw and David are the only things that truly made this movie great. I know people saw Shaw as a makeshift Ripley but she's legit a breed of her own. I always thought she'd be the humanity that equalizes David

[@tomhardysluciouslips]

You could say David became... *Deviant*

[@gamerpulok5502]

Exactly

[@BlueBead]

Or should we say... Daviant

[@tomhardysluciouslips]

@@BlueBead clever

[@recifie-7628]

Detroit Become Human

[@IsiArcadia]

David Become Human...if you will

[@iickyMcMulligan]

The black goo (not spores) kills the engineers. The first scene in Prometheus shows an engineer drinking black goo which disintegrates him as he falls into the water, allowing a chemical reaction that creates human life.

[@RemyBeast]

"It makes sense that the pathogens in different forms would have different effects", does it? It's basically just a plot device at this point.

[@user-lp7tx1fe6t]

I mean, its both.

[@imppaco]

I noticed the lack of Nail hole on the first watch. Considering Ridley's attention to detail, the only thing I can think, is that some scene must have been cut explaining this...

[@niasen]

i knew david was going to kill walter as soon as he cut his hair and made himself look like walter. This also would tell you that he planned on taking the ship from the beginning.

[@Asmodeus69696]

niasen yeah that was something I didn't like about covenant.it was very predictable

[@gunwrrkfilms2583]

niasen that's not necessarily true, I think he cut his hair in the beginning to make Walter more comfortable to pursway him to stay with him or to turn on his crew

[@san_toad]

No shit

[@Iheartdgd]

What I don’t understand, is in this photo (14:30) it looks like Shaw’s lower jaw has been torn off, but when we see her later with the protrusions coming from behind her head (in the next clip), her face and neck are pristine?

[@teletranoats7491]

u guys wanna know where the names DAVID and WALTER come from? From the producers ? David giller and Walter Hill . They were the ones who came up with this whole thing about Droids. Dan Obannon didnt have it in his mind when he first drafted Alien to Screen

[@CloroxBleach-ob2jm]

Renato Sousa oh i dont care i just wanted to acknowledge you.

[@gunwrrkfilms2583]

That's not it at all, in the beginning you see Walen ask what his name is and he looks at the statue of David and says "David" cause the statue of David stands for creation.

[@mrsplosh999]

I like how Ridleys idea of storytelling now is … ‘Hmmm, what should I leave out that might be crucial’

[@a-manthedj13]

😂😂😂

[@toptobottom247]

This is my 2nd viewing of the review. I think your spot on. Best review out of all them. I just don't believe the derelict ship is David's ship. Great review. I was also reading the Landaloff script and the dead bald guys are a seeded planet under the guidance of the engineers. The alpha's are few but still roaming the stars. So we will see.

[@TheAKLDN]

Anti Petrolhead Melodic Answer(s)

[@lostclips7078]

I didn’t hate the film, I just think the writing was really weak, fans complained about Prometheus so Ridley gave them Covenant. It’s just gore and fucked up things as fan service. Especially Shaw it was like one big middle finger to the fans.

[@caradion8728]

I always felt like the Engineers in Prometheus looked different than the ones in Covenant because of budget restraints. They had to keep the costs of the movie down.

[@radricdavis8508]

Yeah the engineers in Covenant looked like humans with shitty Halloween masks

[@serenemountain6769]

They are not Engineers ... they are a by product ... like the humans

[@celeroon89]

@@serenemountain6769 EXACTLY! Finaly someone who understand... Everyone is like: I hate how shaw and the Engineers die... Lol

[@serenemountain6769]

@@celeroon89 Shaw died of mutation caused by the Dark Liquid in her blood! It was the Android's fault, but that happen in the Prometheus movie, not in the convenent, as everyone thinks! The Android Realy tought he was bombing the Engineer Home World, you can even see is eyes in tears while he bombs the planet, he is acting on grief and revenge because shaw died ... it was her last wish that David could avenge her ...

[@celeroon89]

@@serenemountain6769 Nope i dont think so. I think David used her so he could perform tests on her to further develope his Alien, so he can wipe out the human race, just as he says... The black goo evolves higher in the next generation of dna, for example, the engineers gods dna reacted in a certain way and the engineers dna even more, etc etc

[@tampabayrumofficial1376]

I couldn't help but notice that in the first scene when David plays Entry of the Gods to Valhalla on the piano, his father says "its a bit anemic without the full orchestra" and then in the final scene when Mother plays it in the incubation area its the full symphony.

[@theduckynugget]

David: Covenant

[@void.valkyrie6516]

fucking accurate 😂👌

[@void.valkyrie6516]

fucking accurate 😂👌

[@uziclippe]

Corben pretty much

[@cckd-vu3qk]

🔥🔥😂👌 damn that be tru