**correction** Some of you have called me on saying that this is World of Darkness but its actually Chronicles of Darkness.
@foodomanthemagnificent2650 Жыл бұрын
I use them interchangeably as it's the same universe as far as I'm concerned.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
@@foodomanthemagnificent2650 I feel the same way, and do. The same thing but some folks got very worked up about it :p
@foodomanthemagnificent2650 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable Well, they're right on a technicality, but it's the same cannon sooo.....
@sethseth9059 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable It got me worked up. I ripped off my shirt like Hulk Hogan. I liked that shirt.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
@@sethseth9059 sorry bout your shirt bro
@MephiticMiasma Жыл бұрын
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" "Any technology that is distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced." "Any technology, no matter how simple, is magic to those who do not understand it."
@ananousous Жыл бұрын
If I understand MtA correctly, "magic, no matter how complex, is technology to sleepers who understand it"
@foodomanthemagnificent2650 Жыл бұрын
The G-M is such an interesting subject and I was first introduced in Demon the Descent. Probably my favorite splat in WoD
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Not many know about Demon the Fallen or Descent. But those who do really like it
@chriscortez2036 Жыл бұрын
Slight correction: It’s from Chronicles of Darkness, aka New World of Darkness. If you don’t label it people are gonna get confused real fast.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I made a small mistake on that but I made a pinned comment on that.
@chriscortez2036 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable It’s all good 👍
@mrmackie-qp6lr Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saving me sometime
@carlosramsesgonzalezbustos3915 Жыл бұрын
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh New World of Darkness, nicely done~ I must say, while the Classic World of Darkness is my baby, and I love it to bits, certain pieces like Changeling the Lost are truly amazing as the Classic ones. I'll give it a shot at V5 too~ A hug from a fan in México!
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Hugs to Mexico!
@nathandavidson7298 Жыл бұрын
As a guy who adores Demon the Descent.. the God-Machine is such a cool antagonist. I really love it’s cyberpunky, biomechanical, digital themes
@LordDarque Жыл бұрын
I've always head cannoned that the God-Machine was Iteration X's quantum computer. That all of CoD is being run in a simulation on it. This is why all the supernatural factions though present, are different. Lack of knowledge changing things in the simulation.
@jairoukagiri2488 Жыл бұрын
Damn bro lol That'd be a Hell of a game, being a web surfer mage where the Matrix is even more horrific in ways.
@vxicepickxv Жыл бұрын
That's spicy. I love it.
@raipe1252 ай бұрын
Is not that computer a wyrm incsrnae?
@wiilov11 минут бұрын
See, as someone that doesn't like a lot of the changes in CoD and a bit of a WoD purist, I can like it with that subtext/narrative approach.
@LordProteus Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted them to intoduce the Technocratic Union to the New World/Chronicles of Darkness with their own Chronicle, with the God Machine as their primary adversary as they try to wrest contorl of Humanities destiny from this Alien Intelligence.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
This sounds like a fun idea
@sethseth9059 Жыл бұрын
The God Machine wants everyone to hit the like button and subscribe.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
And now im mad I didn't think of that.
@Mr_m33k Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the weaver
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
I can see it
@ComingSoonEntertainment Жыл бұрын
NEW WORLD OF DARKNESS LORE LET'S GO!!!!
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Let's do it!
@theOriginalS.P. Жыл бұрын
It's Chronical of Darkness, thogh, therefore dont be to disapointed if you cant find it in the WoD...
@johnwalsh4857 Жыл бұрын
Yah WOD Chronicles, Demon RPG is quite good, it makes the interactions between Angels and demons look like a cold war espionage spy vs. spy. and teh God Machine created them.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Have always viewed anything with angels and demons in this way
@ComingSoonEntertainment Жыл бұрын
Slight mix up. God machine is more akin to new world of darkness, also known as chronicles of darkness, and demon the descent is the nWoD version not the Fallen. Honest mistake though.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification
@uglyweirdo1389 Жыл бұрын
Chronicle of Darkness did a lot of really cool things in new and unique ways. Thanks a ton for showcasing that. Edition flame wars are old and tired and a waste of time.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
I just want to find cool things and share it. I don't care about edition wars either. I will pull what I like and discard what I don't for any system I play :p im a rebel.
@gdragon56 Жыл бұрын
We doing Chronicles of Darkness now. cool. Hopefully means we are going to get some other stories from Chronicles of Darkness. Hopefully means will do Demons the Descent. They are not demon , the Fallen.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Theres still so much to cover its daunting
@monasteryfounder Жыл бұрын
Bonus points for the Tekken Tag Tournament 2 cameo. Always a good day to be at the Table, Lore Master :)
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
As always, welcome to the table
@Darkme311 Жыл бұрын
Dude, your channel is very unique! Please, please keep doing more WOD/COD lore videos!
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Thanks, out of curiosity what makes it unique? Im just really bad at self assessment lol
@Darkme311 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable not a lot of channels focus on the lore of games as CoD/WoD. You make it very interesting and have variety in the topics. I would even suggest that a podcast format of these lore bits would be awesome! I would be really interested in learning cool stories and factions! All the oWoD and CoD provide a ton of material!
@devinbrizendine7821 Жыл бұрын
Are we about to get some Demon the Descent coverage?
@johnwalsh4857 Жыл бұрын
Maybe teh God Machine is a earth defense system vs. extradimenational and spatial threats made by a fallen previous civlization,
@stevenpope1839 Жыл бұрын
Chronicles, dude. Chronicles. Different and not confusing at all.
@EclipseWarlord Жыл бұрын
What's the difference?
@chriscortez2036 Жыл бұрын
@@EclipseWarlord Chronicles of Darkness is the spiritual successor to World of Darkness. Same premise and monsters, but basically an entirely new universe.
@EclipseWarlord Жыл бұрын
@@chriscortez2036 okay, thanks.
@bob_kat7160Ай бұрын
@@EclipseWarlord except WoD never really went away either so now there’s just two of them
@EclipseWarlordАй бұрын
@@bob_kat7160 yeah, kind of figured that out in the last year
@johnshack3403 Жыл бұрын
This is not "World of Darkness", this is "New World of Darkness" or otherwise known as "Chronicles of Darkness." You need to make a note of this if you want to avoid confusing your viewers.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Made a pinned comment
@johnwalsh4857 Жыл бұрын
and also this ties in to the True Fae and other extra dimensional threats or the beings behind Cheron Group. Maybe it ties to the Exalted RPG and its tied to the Blessed Isle defence system built by the Exalted and smashed back the Fae invasion.
@chriscortez2036 Жыл бұрын
My favorite head canon is that the Cheiron Group’s board are actually PenTex members who escaped to the CofD universe.
@johnwalsh4857 Жыл бұрын
@@chriscortez2036 yep and the WOD actually links to other alternate realities, not surprsied WOD and Chronicles are neighbouring alternate realiteis.
@johnwalsh4857 Жыл бұрын
@@chriscortez2036 yah the Cheiron board members from their descriptions in the horror recognition guide looking very lovecraftian'
@Mortablunt Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the reason the True Fae and Arcadia are just so weird is because they have no connection to the machine? Basically they are from a fundamentally different sector of reality.
@terratorment29402 ай бұрын
There are two world of darkness settings, one of which was retroactively renamed to Chronicles of darkness in order to reduce confusion. The god machine is related to Chronicles of darkness not classic world of darkness.
@alyxtheexorcist7 ай бұрын
"You do not recognize the bodies in the water~!"-The God machine.
@jeshuasamuel6537 Жыл бұрын
Tell me more about the sentient asshtray, it deserves its own video for god sake.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
just a little teaser :P
@MrMysticeti Жыл бұрын
I prefer the demons from chronicles of darkness, but some of the other series were too bleak for me
@johnwalsh4857 Жыл бұрын
also the reason why the god machine is not present in the hedge since the hedge and the home of the True fae is another different dimension from earth altogether, a threat the God machine was built to protect from. Also werewolves. so if Luna is a god machine defense system so who was Father wolf. Since the Pure wants to destroy Luna, and tear down teh veil between dimensions the Pure are enemies of hte God Machine.
@verticalflats2816 Жыл бұрын
You could use the CoD materials in WoD for the most part just adjustment of stats for npcs, and with a few of the CoD games, there were translation guides made.
@Spoeism Жыл бұрын
Interesting, tapping into Gnostic beliefs of the Demiurge, most notably promoted by the Cathars.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Its interesting
@jairoukagiri2488 Жыл бұрын
There's also a Rudolf Steiner on Ahriman angle that fits nicely into these games.
@Spoeism Жыл бұрын
@@jairoukagiri2488 Well isn’t Ahriman more of an Antichrist avatar and archetype? Demiurge is like an AI placed into the simulation by god to maintain but then due to delusional comes believe it is God Ahriman (Zoroastrian?) is more like “the great corruptor” no?
@jairoukagiri2488 Жыл бұрын
@@Spoeism Oh, yeah, but the fundamental odd ball difference in all of this is the AntiChrist is usually pinned towards Lucifer, however Ahriman is more like it. I don't like the computer jargon spliced into metaphysics so much. According to Steiner this is the split; Luciferian archetypes are of the fiery and airy elements, usually have a hubris of self superiority or haughtiness, and fixate on Overly creative or morally driven ethics. Weyland in Prometheus as an apex example, thinking one is like God for some reasons. Ahrimanic is basically a cocktail of the Weaver or Computer with the soul crushing conformity of oppression, or rigidity to the point of calcifying. Also concepts of being too "mineral". The charts contrasting these two can be excellent since it shows how a given fault could swing to either extreme. And like being bipolar it swings between the two. As establishments go you'll usually see Pharisees pinned under one and Sadducees the other. It's more Ahriman and Lucifer represent natural and human extremes. Politics can play into this. Being neutral is the only good between two radical extremes? I only trip over some of the over lap but I find it interesting to blend. Even the Abyss is kind of an even mix of the two camps which makes sense. However this would open up a lot for Fallen even, some being cold and Earthbound in more literal ways, and others - or other spirits on general being more Dynamic even without being of the Wyld. Passion versus cold methodical, calculations opposed to warped moral grand standing. Luciferic spirits should corrupt by playing on emotions and drives, Ahriman is more the spirit behind the Borg. More Reanimator turf, logically justified, some interesting descriptions by Steiner from a century ago fit into today's weird ways.
@Spoeism Жыл бұрын
@@jairoukagiri2488 Well couldn't Lucifer be seen as Apollo Utu Belinus? Illuminator. Fallen Angel and student of Enki, who opposed the Demiurge of Yahweh?
@sethseth9059 Жыл бұрын
Actually do more Chronicles of Darkness or I'll have to.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Is that a threat or a promise? ;)
@mynameisd2849 Жыл бұрын
Quick question, if you are going to do more lore videos on CofD would they be on the same list as the world of darkness ones? or would you make separate list for the chronicles of darkness games? ie: if you make videos on Vampire the requiem would they be on the vampire the masquerade list?
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
I will do my best to organize my playlists, i need to do some clean up on them.
@mynameisd2849 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable thank you, and by the way, if you get any hate from this video ignore those b****es, Im a WofD lore head but I dont dislike CofD its just a different setting
@vxicepickxv Жыл бұрын
It said World of Darkness, and I'm like, are we finally going to learn about why Iteration X isn't allowed to study Dimensional Science? Wait a minute, this is Chronicles of Darkness, and still an amazing setting I want to run in one day.
@bigreaderpike Жыл бұрын
Regardless of whether this is Chronicles or world of darkness wouldn't Arthur's 3rd law be meaningless since we know in setting that both physics and magic are determined by the common perception of humanity?
@harvestblades11 ай бұрын
While I have largely been out of WoD for a long time I was in deep during VtM 2nd & 3rd as well as all other WoD games & have never heard of this. Chronicle of Darkness would make more sense.
@jacobaugustine6249 Жыл бұрын
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh it disgusted me
@VoivodeMekhet Жыл бұрын
Is this supposed to be WoD or Chronicles of Darkness?
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
I think this is pulled from chronicles of darkness but its also part of the setting in general based on what I read.
@wmlamptracker Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable Second edition. Along with the Strix.
@alyxtheexorcistАй бұрын
I want to play a Demon that looks like an alien Xenomorph with black feathered wings.
@AwkwardGMCorbin2 ай бұрын
Big mistake: Demon the Descent is the gameline not Demon the Fallen. I know you correct World of Darkness as Chronicles of Darkness in the pinned comment, but if someone looks up Demon the Fallen they are going to get Judeo-Christian Angels as opposed to God-Machine Angels. Hope this helps and you can add it to the pinned comment. Though I know I'm very late to the party on this :(
@stephendeer79936 ай бұрын
I know I’m years behind but is this chronicles of darkness/ new WOD?
@nyxhighlander9894 Жыл бұрын
Praise the Omnissiah
@nellowethereal663322 күн бұрын
Id call it Dios Mechanica
@swardinc Жыл бұрын
fascinating sure there is tech in world of darkness but aliens? Machine gods? nice
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Angels, demons, ghosts, mummies too
@swardinc Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable true but was not expecting tech gods in my fantasy =P
@jairoukagiri2488 Жыл бұрын
Technocratic Union my dude, void engineers and cyborgs oh my ;D
@kennethholbert4748 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious what splat books have the most information based around the GM? Like I assume DtD but any others?
@ironheadgaming6270 Жыл бұрын
I would have thought that the Weaver would be the God Machine
@jairoukagiri2488 Жыл бұрын
There's a major alignment with Autochthonia as the Tool Spirit that is Computer, but mixing WoD and CoD is home brew turf.
@ironheadgaming6270 Жыл бұрын
@@jairoukagiri2488 I have Dark Ages, What
@jairoukagiri2488 Жыл бұрын
@@ironheadgaming6270 It's more Exalted cross over, or origins referenced. Dark Ages doesn't really cover it since Autochthonia wasn't discovered until the 1800s or something like that.
@owohscorner Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Aberrations in World of Darkness or Chronicles of Darkness. Call of Cthulhu and Bloodborne really tied eldritch horror and grim dark victorian together. I'd love to see the vampires vying for territory, only to meet a pale skinned humanoid of otherworldly, eldritch beauty, only for in private, this suave an mysterious person reveals themselves as a mass of tentacle and enlongated limbs. Aberration: The Hidden Aberration : The Maddening I'm workshoping some names... Essentially the game would be social. Aberrations feed on memories, emotions, and brains. They have True forms which are otherworldly and horrific, and disguises, false bodies or diminished form that have have an exotic beauty or ugliness to them. The game would center around swapping these forms and using various psionic powers. Gaining influence and power to propagate
@alpharius5178 Жыл бұрын
Techno-heresy!
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
mmm heresy
@bigreaderpike Жыл бұрын
So what's the source of vampires and Chronicles of darkness?
@franciscocabral270122 күн бұрын
Where can I read about this?
@theengineer704 Жыл бұрын
Why do I feel that they got that from....DUNE.
@Caldenor328 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like the god machine and the weaver are mostly the same thing, or parts of the same thing.
@raipe1252 ай бұрын
Same through....
@raipe1252 ай бұрын
Same through....
@terratorment29402 ай бұрын
*demon the descent
@whitewolfgaming8327 Жыл бұрын
How do you tell werewolves that their father and creator slept with a robot and that robot gave birth to them?
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
you dont unless you want to get ripped apart lol
@whitewolfgaming8327 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@alzeke8707 Жыл бұрын
Just wondering is the god machine the weaver ?
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
I dont think it is, though it could be a very power being associated with it. The god machine doesn't inherently want perfect order like the weaver does
@alzeke8707 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable ok thank you. If I get correctly the god machine is power and the weaver is order?
@rogueraccoon1840 Жыл бұрын
Wait so there's aliens in the world of darkness? Next there's gonna be a demonic invasion of earth
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
....um.... are you aware of demon the descent/fallen game in world of darkness? :P
@rogueraccoon1840 Жыл бұрын
@TheMapleTable nah I'm actually pretty new to the world of darkness. I've been listening to the lore of the game
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
@@rogueraccoon1840 ah, well... Theres your demon invasion
@raipe1252 ай бұрын
@@TheMapleTabledont forgetten the null treath and the void engeniers... But yes wod should have a game more about aliens refugee
@alicjacaban2226 Жыл бұрын
Hm did Lycaon -ur have connections with God machine?
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Its an interesting question, it would likely be a yes imo.
@honkeykong4049 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious.. does this guy have a noticeable accent to American viewers? I can't hear an accent, but I'm Canadian so I wouldn't unless it were egregious.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
When I was living in the UK I was told I had a distinct accent.
@honkeykong4049 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable Compared to UK folks I think everyone does tho lol
@austinmonster11 ай бұрын
The God-Machine storyline is caused me to nope out of the chronicles of darkness. It's top-class cringe.
@raipe1252 ай бұрын
Why?
@hmroid6884 Жыл бұрын
Stealing these for a wod mage games
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Its fantastic isn't it
@SHDW-nf2kiАй бұрын
bro you should seriously delete this video and reupload it with a correction this isn't world of darkness
@WiseG33k Жыл бұрын
Ugh, I hate this, lol.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Hate this concept?
@WiseG33k Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable Yeah, not the video! I just think the whole idea of an alien machine-god seems a bit out of place in WoD. Fortunately, it's an obscure part of the lore that is pretty easy to ignore. :P