What if Ripley Trusted Bishop II?

[@porcu12345]

What if Lt. Gorman wasn't useless and decided to call back the marines as soon as they realised something wasn't right when trying to locate the survivors? How different would the Aliens storyline have been with a full squad of armed troopers? Potential video!

[@robzilla730]

Like if they pulled back to the colony and dug in. Set up multiple robot sentries. Would've been dope

[@Dimetropteryx]

The dropship would still have crashed, they would still have needed to hold out for 17 days, and the atmospheric processor would still have blown up long before that. OR They could have done a mad dash for the uplink tower and called down the second dropship, and evacuated.

[@xKinjax]

@@Dimetropteryx At least on the dropship part and atmospheric processor part you're wrong imho. They would have likely not stopped out in the open and instead gone back to the colony if they had successfully pulled out of the processor. If that had happened neither the marines nor the crashing ship would have damaged the processor. The pilots would have probably still gotten killed but the ship would have likely survived. If it didn't they could have simply left the colony, gone a safe distance away and used the APC to pilot down the second dropship. That said this would be a terrible ending because it would basically mean that Wayland would have a fully intact and thriving xenomorph colony to just come in and take over.

[@marcoelhodev]

@@xKinjax Nope, they would have nuked it from orbit. I'm sure of that.

[@mr.mister1045]

What if in alien, the ship never landed on LV426. What would have happened to the rest of the alien movie?

[@ThisIsTheRoad]

"Bishop takes Queen..." I don't know if that would have fit as dialouge into the film, but f**k, do I love that quote! :D

[@albertrussell4323]

Yeah that is a nice quote

[@garyesajas]

Take my like sir

[@misterG2006]

Check mate! :)

[@aleksandarbogdanov303]

​@@misterG2006 Bishop mate :D

[@steveflatman]

It's a reverse of the scene in Aliens where the Alien Queen takes Bishop.

[@uatrekker]

Bishop^ "we don't have a name for different developmental stages yet" this "yet" shows real intentions.

[@pompomous2321]

Agree, that comment struck me aswell, I'd do the dive myself right at that moment :X

[@seanm4095]

I noticed that too! Same and we know full well that the company wants an alien for the bio weapons program!:

[@JimboLogic]

Yah, what the f••k you mean "yet".

[@chrisn4315]

Right, I noticed that, too. Small word - big difference.

[@TheJMBon]

I caught that as well

[@HoustonSoto]

I loved the hellish imagery in this scene; the devil in disguise, wearing a friendly face, tempting the messianic hero. Trying to corrupt her with lies and false promises.

[@ryanf7441]

I never realized that before, great point

[@bruceli9094]

That's what Globalists/Elites/Marxists are trying to do.. to corrupt us.

[@ambermyers1330]

What an intelligent, thought provoking comment!

[@NitpickingNerd]

also the total solar eclipse from space creates an "apocalypse" kind of atmosphere , before Ripley sacrifices herself to save all life in the universe

[@malavadofilms]

Explains the t pose

[@chrisr__]

My face lit up when I saw there was a new video to watch.

[@acerimmer1023]

Lol me too

[@papafrank7094]

Same here...

[@jamesbuckingham77]

Fun fact: A few years ago, when I gave up smoking I spoke the line "you've been in my life so long I can't remember anything else", before tossing the rest of the packet in the bin. Never touched a smoke since.

[@whitrulzes]

As the packet made it's journey to the bin, a single cigarette burst out of the top of the packet and squealed, trying to escape its fate.

[@aHedgerowFrog]

Addiction is the _real_ monster

[@sebastiandiaz6724]

They mostly came at night, didn’t they?

[@Jonslondon]

@@whitrulzes damn..and then what happened bro?

[@ai6894]

(To the cigarettes 🚬) "Game over, man! GAME OVER!" 🚭

[@this_is_who_we_are]

In the novel of ALIEN 3 it is mentioned twice how expensive long range deep-space communication is. I therefore believe that sending Bishop and his crew and the 'Patna' to Fiorina 161 must be extremely expensive too. Based on a huge price-tag WY surely did not send their team to merely save Ripley from the Queen and destroy the latter. Watching the movie in the cinema in 1993 in Germany I found three clues that Bishop lied to Ripley and one big statement showing how manipulative Bishop II was. 1. Explaining the medical procedure to Ripley he makes this grabbing and twisting hand-gesture which (to me) does not indicate a smooth procedure to save Ripley but rather how they would yank the Queen out-of Ripley with little concern for anything but the Queen. 2. I am paraphrasing from the german translation, and Bishop II first mentions 'it cannot live, we are here to destroy it'. Then when Ripley slams the door close and shortly before Aaron attacks Bishop calls at her, begging her to allow him the operation, as 'it is a very special specimen' and 'there is so much we can learn from it'. If it is special, then WY would not kill it and, clearly, WY could learn more from the Queen when she is alive then merely having an obduction on the Queen's corpse. 3. Attempting to manipulate Ripley in telling her 'you could still have children. A daughter?' Bishop II clearly knew about Amanda Ripley-McClaren and her death and the break-down Ripley had when Burke informed Ripley about her dead daughter before her hearing with vanLeuwen. All in all, Ripley would most likely would have died either way.

[@electricfire621]

Alien 3 is underrated in my opinion. The theatrical version is decent, but the Assembly Cut is really really good. Whenever I rewatch the whole series I always choose the Assembly Cut over the theatrical version.

[@jamessargent9981]

I still like that one as well the prison planet was awful the death of Newt and Hicks was trajick really sad but this all reflects the nature of the alien itself bleak dismal with absolutely no problems killing anyone including a child to stay alive which of course with our system of values is absolutely evil.

[@spookrockcity]

Alien 3 will always be the worst of the first 4 films because of what it did to Hicks and Newt. You don't take a dump on the story that brought you here.

[@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526]

It is only "good" in hindsight after the terrible sequels.

[@splawnrobert]

∆Ll£N 3 was definitely better than ∆Ll£N . ∆Ll£N was ground breaking for it's time, but it was ..... §o.... Damned...... Sssss low ! Slow ! Eat yer heart out STAR TREK THE MOTION PlCTURE !

[@mikeadams7904]

​@@splawnrobert wash your mouth out. Alien³ is not better than alien . Never

[@ahousecatnamedmr.jenkins1052]

Bishop II is like Palpatine in a way "Yes, you can trust me"

[@NitpickingNerd]

it's not a story Weyland Yutani would tell you. it's a space trucker legend . the Xenomorph was a perfect organism, so powerful it could use hosts and influence their DNA to create life... It could even keep the hosts from dying , turning them into new eggs. The Xenomorph is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. It became so powerful... the only thing it was afraid of was fire.

[@DarrenMoore-le6pg]

“Trust me and come away from the edge. “ What guarantee do I have you will destroy it? _”DEW IT!”_

[@NaZtRdAmUs]

The "best" outcome for the company is to turn the prison planet into a new Alien home world and then observe them from space.

[@bushdude82]

They would still try to control and weaponize them to use to their advantage. They would rule by fear because they would threaten any competition they encounter with the xenomorphs and eventually monopolize and be a world superpower, and shadow government, ran by the higher-ups of the company

[@KalashVodka175]

@@bushdude82 I think WY main reason for trying to get xenomorphs is not to weaponize xenomorphs themselves, but to study their incredibly biology Imagine, superlight protective armour made out of xeno chitin, acid bullet that could melt through anything, and that's not to mention the myriads of medical application thorough research of a specimen could generate.

[@bushdude82]

@@KalashVodka175 I could totally see that happening as well it would probably be happening at the same time even if they were trying to weaponize xenomorphs themselves, and they would take these medical break-throughs and development of armor like you mentioned, would just lead to a super soldier development program.

[@steveflatman]

Remember that also in the original script and book the Xenomorohs have a neurotoxin administered by their tail which paralyses humans in seconds, this alone but seemed to wear off with absolutely no side effects (the reason Gorman was unconscious in the script/book rather than being knocked out), this alone would be a valuable item if weaponised. The armour possible would be incredibly valuable, as mentioned, as would their ability to sense potential human hosts, which if understood could be turned into potential tracking devices. The possibilities for a weapons division with nefarious intentions would be huge... if they lived long enough to see any of them through to fruition!

[@faceless2302]

The Company wouldn't be content with just observing I'm sure, they'd want tests done. I think the best case containment is some sort of space station hub with detached pods for specimen containment. Try to keep study entirely remote through camera feeds where possible, but offer a way for pods to be moved by crane or by thruster to dock with the station so synthetics can bring them in for autopsy or whatever is needed. Have everyone live and work in groups to avoid lone people getting infected without anyone knowing. Hard part is finding a way to provide ventilation to staff without the use of conveniently alien-sized air ducts because that's just begging for breached containment. Of course it's Alien, it's going to go wrong and everyone is going to die, but on paper it's probably about as best you can do without a full staff of synths which may be prohibitively expensive.

[@dancharles6009]

This scene reminds me of The Empire Strikes Back, when Luke rejects Vader's offer and falls from a great height. Ripley rejects Bishop's offer and falls. Both Vader and Bishop lose their "prize".

[@nevermindmyname9153]

Had he said (Even Lying) "You can destroy it yourself". And added "We need your expertise as other Colonies have gone Dark". I have to wonder, would that have worked. After the events of Alien 3 Morse is the most knowledgeable on the Xeno subject.

[@FranciscoRodriguez-lp6zg]

Alien 3 is one of my favorites! So dark and visceral!

[@preferablysolo3592]

You're the best alien lore channel bro

[@eviljim292]

As in real life, Billion $ Corps don't like Loose Ends, either way Ripley Does Not Survive the ordeal !!

[@joshbigz8440]

I think they would freeze her until they know they cannot get any more information out of her and than just throw her in the incinerator.

[@weightlifting_socialist]

Capitalism requires people to hurt and be sacrificed in order to work. You got it right with your comment.

[@albertrussell4323]

I believe Ripley made the write choice not only for her, but for the world. Ripley also stated previously she never wanted to end up like the others.

[@mattx5499]

Of course she did. Few escaped xenomorphs could start a freaking hive and start wiping humans in thousands. What happened with the colony on terraformed Acheron is the best proof that bringing the monster on Earth would end with apocalypse. Such efficient, highly intelligent and ruthless organism couldn't be kept on a 'farm' like an animal. Imagine xenomorphs being able to live as long as freaking giant turtles and survive extreme conditions from the extreme cold of Syberia to extreme hot desert. They could also swim pretty well. No way humanity could compete with such species that's only goal is self preservation. 💡

[@predatortheme]

@@mattx5499 not if they are left on a planet.

[@benderbendingrodriguez420]

Really putting the 'Theory' into *Alien Theory* 👏 love it

[@johngz3413]

That reading of the bisop ii scene he seemed more like he is subtly trying to push her to the jump without the surgeons catching it.

[@MrChristian331]

I've been listening to your channel for a while now "Alien Theory". I like your content about Aliens, and you have a very relaxing voice. Like Bob Ross....👍

[@robzilla730]

He sounds like Tom Cruise

[@MrChristian331]

​@@robzilla730 What...he sounds nothing like Tom Cruise. I'm not sure who he sounds like, I just think he has a very calming reassuring voice that is relaxing and at the same time mysterious and foreboding. But considering he narrates on Alien stories this would probably be a blessing for him. Basically he's very good storyteller. 👌

[@robzilla730]

@@MrChristian331 I saw a documentary about Stanley Kubrick narrated by Cruise. This guy sounds just like him. Who's Bob Ross?

[@MrChristian331]

​@@robzilla730 What?? You don't know who "Bob Ross" is?? Dude...he is the king of the ASMR sounds. Whenever you are having stress, anxiety or can't sleep, just listen to 30 minutes of Bob Ross "Joy of Painting" series and you'll be straight... kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJLJh6yVZbVphas

[@shamrockballs1066]

Very soothing I agree lol

[@YamatoNCC1701]

I just realized the title was "Bishop II",, also if we remember what Carter Burke said "those specimens would be worth millions to the bio weapons division" and so we know already that W-Y would keep the Queen and Ripley knew that too so she made the right choice.

[@brianborell4469]

Exactly, the company didn't send an entire medical team and a high tech ship to destroy the alien.

[@slackhackman9115]

This kinda reminds me of the Chose your own adventure books that were popular for a time when I was growing up.

[@coffeeelk6364]

Quite the interesting video as always! I absolutely enjoy any Alien 3 related content you put out. It’s such a unique and interesting film to talk about.

[@42ndStreetMatthew]

I agree completely. Alien 3 is by far the most interesting in the series.

[@ChefBoyareB]

"We don't know what to call its life cycles, yet". "YET". Meaning they intend to learn and how else would they without taking the xeno?

[@jasonleslie203]

The whole "your just going to have to trust me" tells you everything you need to know on what his motives. At least in my opinion. Especially after him saying "its the chance of a life time. Its a magnificent specimen"

[@doctoronishispsychosislab1474]

"Marrakeck. John. J. They killed him Taking it off"

[@weldonwin]

That was trying to remove the face hugger, rather than the chestburster. Presumably, they tried to physically pull the Hugger's limbs away from the patient's head and it tightened its grip with its tail until his neck broke or it straight up crushed his neck

[@doctoronishispsychosislab1474]

@@weldonwin I know Baby was just putting it out there for some Aliens Hype. :) Too be fair i never actually put much thought into how he died, After the 1st movie i just assumed it was some horrific acid death. but your makes more sense as they want to keep them.

[@weldonwin]

@@doctoronishispsychosislab1474 They probably figured out the acid thing early on, since Mr Marrakeck was probably not the first person they tried to save, but since both the live Huggers had all their limbs intact, they couldn't have tried to cut them off, so they must have tried to pry them off, so the Huggers would have tightened their grip more and more until the victim's necks broke

[@bjrnhalfhand2258]

@@weldonwin either broken neck or "fingers" clinging to the face so hard, the face is torn off.

[@Sjar86]

@@weldonwin I read somewhere that the facehugger upon removal will chemically kill the host. When its attached to a host it sedates them and uses chemicals such at immunosuppressants in the host so their body doesnt attack the embryo. It also breathes for the host aswell so not introducing chemicals to wake the host up they will die, hence removal from a host will kill them. I think tail tightning from Facehuggers is more of a back off responce.

[@johnbowles5399]

I love the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 so much! In fact that version of the film is my best friend's, and my dad's, favourite Alien film believe it or not. It's a truly dark and beautifully made film. My only regret is that director David Fincher was so badly treated by Fox during the production, and that his horrible experience while making it has made him hate this film. That is a real tragedy because the Assembly Cut of this film is bloody well made and a worthy sequel. If you like your sci-fi horror truly dark, as I do, then you have to love it. The original Alien will always be my favourite film of all time, but Alien 3 does not deserve any of the hate it gets. Just avoid the butchered Theatrical Cut when you watch it. Assembly Cut all the way, baby!

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

The assembly cut is great, a legitimately good film.

[@volodymyrbilyk555]

Sometimes I wonder why Alien Labyrinth was never adapted into a movie form.

[@ab5olut3zero95]

That comic series still creeps me out to this day.

[@volodymyrbilyk555]

@@ab5olut3zero95 yup. It is probably the best of the bunch

[@bernardstrauss1183]

@@volodymyrbilyk555 Aliens: Apocalypse - The Destroying Angels is what Prometheus should have been.

[@volodymyrbilyk555]

@@bernardstrauss1183 oh yeah, that story is so great. On a side note, music of the spears would have been an awesome b movie

[@this_is_who_we_are]

With Brad Dourif as Dr Paul Church 🤘🏻 That would have been more fitting than this odd Dr Jonathan Gediman in RESURRECTION.

[@robh.5595]

It'd have been game over, man...game over.

[@FelisDestructicus]

I think she should have just given him a hug, and let the queen tear through two bodies. Yeah, that wouldn't solve anything, but it'd be funny.

[@MaxwellHallum]

Watchmojo just listed Ripley as smartest horror character that made a smart choice but it still didn't work well (nuking planet in Aliens). Thought you would like to know.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Well damn, usually watchmojo is a pretty terrible with their Judgement system but thats not a very bad choice. The only contenders I could possibly think of are maybe ash Williams or burt gummer given how they all three and learn from their respective movie monsters new behaviors and abilities.

[@codprocamp4690]

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 it's a Montreal based website, nothing from this city is legit, trust me I lived here for 45 years.

[@thedoruk6324]

+MaxwelllHallum Too bad that the WatchMojo is a huge sham that they have done terrible videos about alien verse

[@al3k]

Ah wow.. So who's the smartest horror character that made a smart choice but it still didn't work well but after another twist it did work out well?

[@spookerredmenace3950]

watchmojo sometimes gets it right in their videos lol

[@mcj5644]

Nice video. I always wondered if “Bishop II” was human. As for Ripley’s fate if she had trusted him, they would have extracted the Queen from her and thrown her corpse away like trash.

[@kevinlyons7321]

Probably another android if you. Notice peace of his ear 👂 hanging but instead of white 🤍🐻‍❄️ blood it bleeds red ❤❤blood probably color blood red to have her think hes human but more advance android beeding red ❤🍓 blood ❤️❤️🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🌹🌹🤖🤖🤖🦾🦾🦿🦿

[@avenuePad]

Bishop II stated he was human, and he had red blood. He was human. Saying he's some sort of prototype isn't backed up by the events of the movie. In the end, it is a movie and is left open for interpretation. I always took it at face value that Bishop II was human because I had no reason to think otherwise.

[@VideoSage]

I do not think she would ever be allowed back into normal life- but forced into a job @ Wayland Yutani- questioned, and kept, as a security advisor- whose advice would be listened to, but frequently disregarded.

[@robzilla730]

She wouldn't survive the procedure. One way or the other

[@MrMUERETECTM]

Please we both know that in the best case the company will kill her at worst they would occupy her as a guinea pig to test something like "how many embryos and operations to remove it alive can a person survive" even if they have her as an advisor regarding the creature at the moment they have all the necessary information they will probably execute her for some fabricated charge

[@stevencohen624]

I have to agree with the second commentator. They would have either kept her locked away for experimentation or killed her.

[@1994glg]

#alienresurection

[@chaz9808]

If she decided to go with wayland I think events would probably turn out like it did in alien resurrection with a few differences

[@dragonskulle7283]

Maybe Jack Dawson could of stopped her from jumping. In all seriousness A3 is just superb, the only thing that bothers me is some effects on the alien itself looks really dodgy and needs a new CGI overhaul. 1992 though, still in its infancy. Surprised they haven't given it a revamp.

[@gourdlord3064]

When it comes to safe removal of the chestburster, I think it should be possible, but forever leave the victim weakened.

[@rachelar]

Morse is quoted by Call in Alien 4 as having written a forbidden book on philosophy two hundred years before

[@DamonCzanik]

I like my version: Alien 3 was all just a dream in hypersleep and everyone who survived Aliens didn't get killed off. I don't see any scenario where the company wouldn't kill her. She wasn't killed in Resurrection because of plot armor.

[@badgerden7080]

I love this channel. Best Alien channel on KZbin.

[@bryantaylor9874]

Anyone else notice Bishop tipped his hand and Ripley missed it. He said we don't know their life cycles yet... yet, as in we will soon.

[@TonyBMan]

There WAS no choice at the end of Alien³. Ripley knew exactly what they'd do with the queen. The 'choice' was there as just one final tug at our heartstrings before the inevitable.

[@pacer1705]

The surgical facility on the Patana must be better than what was available on the Prometheus.

[@Neb30925]

Then we wouldn't have had the perfect ending to this dark and poetic alien film.

[@Dimetropteryx]

They wouldn't have taken it out of her. They wouldn't even have considered it, even if it had been possible. All it would mean is additional risks to the alien. And they certainly wouldn't have been able to do it in the couple of minutes between the promise and the actual "birth".

[@VanwolfsterLycan]

Experimented on indeed, I have to re-watch this and the others, kind of miss them.

[@solotravelermart]

Well in the director's cut Bishop clearly says you must let me have it, it's once in a life time think of all what we can accomplishe with it, Clearly means he just wanted it for the bio weapons.

[@kevinlyons7321]

Also he is a second android 🤖🤖🦾🦾🦿🦿 but more advance bleeding red blood 🩸🩸🩸❤❤🩸🩸🩸🌹🌹🌹 instead of 🤍🐻‍❄️ blood

[@mattbatesteacher]

The cage was not for the xenomorph. The cage was to keep Ripley from moving and possibly harming the chestburster.

[@nevermindmyname9153]

The Cage was for the Xenomorph they thought was trapped.

[@steveflatman]

@@nevermindmyname9153 Because when capturing an 8ft tall enormously strong creature with a razor sharp tail, long arms and incredibly strong hands, what you want is a flimsy cage with big gaps between the bars! I wouldn't be comfortable capturing an angry dog in that cage, let along one of the most dangerous creatures ever put to film!!!

[@nevermindmyname9153]

@@steveflatman They only learned of Ripley being impregnated a few Hours before hand. They were coming for a creature. And I am quite sure the would have thought they could knock it unconscious SOMEHOW before moving it.

[@billcarson9565]

as this is a what if video, we can say Ripley goes with Bishop, they don't make it back in time to the ship for safe removal, it bursts out and runs off and hides, the WY Corp troops start looking for the xenomorph, it grows into a queen and lays eggs, the facehuggers start taking hosts and they lose control, Bishop radios back to base and tells them the proverbial has hit the fan, another ship turns up 17 days later, no humans, only cybernetic organisms, the company has been secretly making Terminators, T800 Series, Model 101, 50 of them marching out of the second ship, cold and devoid of emotion they march into the complex hunt down the xenos and their queen, package them and send them back using amazon express delivery.

[@TheScienceofnature]

The company had obvious intentions to collect a specimen as evident in Aliens. Their reputation throughout the films and extended universe is clear. Wayland Yutani has a psychotic mentality with no regards for the well being of humans. They wouldn't send out a team like that for the sole purpose of buying out Ripley's contract and giving her a perfect life. Its not in their nature. In fact, if they didn't believe an alien specimen existed on the planet, they would more likely leave Ripley to die if only to prevent her from suing the company for putting her in harms way so many times. So I am certain that the company was there to collect a specimen, not for Ripley.

[@wblake1]

Alien 3 has the most beautiful set designs and a signature Fincher photography.

[@annk1019]

Bishop takes Queen... not today!... Brilliant, thank you.

[@M05tly]

I always took the chest burster choosing to break out while Ripley falls as due to the heat, like a survival instinct rather than it being fully ready to birth.

[@ammosophobia]

OH MY GOD you are SO on with everything I love about you! The timestamps at the beginning sold it, FCS! We love you @Aliean_Theory because of stuff like this.

[@Nostromo4261]

Absolutely no way she’d ever trust bishop2. B1 was an exception. Her experience with Weyland reps, Burke, ash, the committee that shut her down, and the special order dooming the Nostromo crew had to make this decision far easier for her. He admits They don’t even have names for the lifestyle stages, how would anyone believe they understood how to manage or even kill the Zeno.

[@theyracemesohard]

Your videos are that good that I genuinely even enjoy all the patreon parts at the end... yet another brilliant video sir!!!

[@jdfoster23]

But why are the company so obsessed with the xenomorph specimen? What do they plan to do with it? It's not like they could control the creature and use it as a weapon against foreign enemies etc

[@darsis]

This is an excellent take. Thank you very much for making it.

[@cpt_bill366]

I can't conceive any scenario where Ripley is valuable enough to the company for them to rush out an expedition to save her and ensure the destruction of the alien. There is just no way she could have believed the offer.

[@chriscarrete5303]

Now that would be really interesting to see. It would be Alien/Aliens all over again. More so Alien with it running and hiding except this time it would be a Queen.

[@sebastianfitzptraick7395]

Alien 3 is a masterpiece, sue me. Great video as always sir!!

[@dr.j1416]

Awesome “what if” video! I also want to pin point out that in Batman vs Aliens 2, that comic also showed that Xenomorphs can be removed from their host during surgery. If that’s cannon or not with the Alien movies is up to you and others, but just a theory I wanted to throw in. Also, the Batman vs Aliens comics are awesome! Definitely worth checking out!

[@CineRanter]

4:28 that would make a good movie

[@shamrockballs1066]

I read the first 3 movie novelizations last summer and thoroughly enjoyed them even though I've seen the movies several times. Definitely worth a read if your an Alien fan!

[@station7thedoor]

There is a theory out there, which you touched on, that even though there is an ideal gestation time, it can be expedited prematurely if certain conditions present themselves, such as imminent danger to the host, or a command from the Alien Queen. That would explain why gestation times have always varied widely throughout the series. I'm in the camp that believes Bishop 2 was indeed another android posing as a human to persuade Ripley. The "rescue team" instantly expedited their arrival when the medical scan communicated to them the fact that Ripley was gestating a queen. What this says to me, is that they were actually there in orbit the whole time. It was this company ship that arranged the events of Alien 3, planted the eggs on the Sulaco, arranged the crash, all as a field test for the bioweapon. They are coming specifically to get that queen, that is the reason they expedited, so they probably have equipment close by to freeze Ripley for however long they need to.

[@theonewhoknocks7350]

Great video! Not enough love for Alien 3

[@derekrwatson346]

I never thought she had time to go with them, even if she wanted to.

[@johnspence8141]

so any company that has orders "Crew expendable" isn't ever going to gain trust

[@KimPossibleShockwave]

Yeah, it'd tear its way out of her chest before they could even get a few steps towards the ship. If they'd have arrived an hour or so earlier, they may have made it. Of course, it's likely she'd have been disposed of during the operation to remove the Queen.

[@d0nKsTaH]

At the time Alien 3 came out... no one knew just how evil Weyland Yuntani was going to be. There are two additional clues as to what was going to happen to Ripley. Both of these clues came after Aliens 3. Clue 1: In Alien 4 Resurrection: General Perez only wanted the specimen, he didn't care about Ripley, yet leaned towards 'disposal" of her. Now this has nothing direct on the story in Alien 3, however, it is a clue laid down by the writers and maybe the producers as to what fate was going to befall Ellen after surgery. Only in Alien 3, Ripley was even less "special" to WT than Ripley-8 was to the scientists in A4 ---who they wanted to play around with for a while. Clue 2: (and as you stated from ACM) In that Video game (and maybe the Book adaptation of Alien 4), it was passed on that NO ONE could survive the operation ---at least long term. It acts as a cancer spreading out tentacles into each organ and leading to the spot of the Xeno's artificial invasive womb. A constant drain on the body's nutrients being piped into that area over and over and growing back if parts of it were removed. Think of that movie "The Ruins" how that plant was roaming around just under that girl's skin spreading its spores and growing inside her. Similar situation with the Facehugger's spores it used to make its womb with. It would have been a painful experience to go through. This was in a way a hint that even WT knew this and would have felt they would be doing her a favor by ending her life. They also, would be removing the last witness to all of the Xenomorph's history on Nostromo and LV426. WT could literally make up any story ... cough.. "Complications" from emergency surgery" etc All in all, Ellen was smart and wise enough to foresee their murderous intentions once they secured the specimen. Thus she falls into the abyss. I don't like these two films at all. And if i could ever do my own film line of Ripley's saga with the Aliens... I would have her wake at the beginning of a film with her husband Hicks beside her... asking her "Which dream was it this time?" Crysosleep nightmares are talked about at the beginning of Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 movie adaptation books. Fitting to assign those two movies as "Cryosleep nightmares". To dismiss them respectably from the timeline. However, I would also consider a "5th' film, picking up from Alien 4. My brother had an idea about Ripley 8 and the Android making their way to Weyland Yutani and using their secret 'Time machine" to go back into time and try and stop everything. His story, has Ripley slowly changing into a Xenomorph herself... and ending up on the very Juggernaut ship that Kane got his face hugger attack. Ripley's last act in the film would be to try and warn the Nostromo with a beacon and a message. However, in a terrible twist of horror, at the moment she is recording the message, she has fully changed and her voice would be indistinquishable to the crew. Just think... Ripley and the rest of them listening (in that deleted scene) would be unknowing that they were hearing Ellen's own voice on that recording... its just that it was now a Xeno voice. Spooky ending... and that deleted scene could be used as the very ending to that "Alternate ending" film idea.

[@horadrian]

I presume Morse was killed in the end of the day. They simply spared him temporarily to be interrogated as the only source of information at that point - to get intel on the actual events. Or perhaps he was locked up for life, isolated, for future interrogations.

[@inkwellflood8276]

Maybe the little xenomorph is so adept at reading the host it could feel the adrenalin rush and release of bodily DMT, that comes to a human near death, thus - burst out of Ripley.

[@chrisbender4987]

This really got me sad when I saw this, knowing it was Weaver's last Alien film (At the time that was her words) I knew she was going to die because Ripley wasn't going to trust Bishop 2...she's not stupid despite how desperate she wanted to live.

[@CrazyKoenie]

Great work! Love the colour adjusted footage. She did have the greatest power at the end. But then the company decided to bring her back for extra profit. the company being 20th century fox. Alien Resurrection should never have happened. But a sequel to Alien 3 should. It’s very plausible to continue on Fury 16. Sold as crap. Then bought by a different company. The planet still has natural methane. This could be a business opportunity. A team would map out the facility to determine its integrity and viability. Only for the team of researchers to encounter an egg. While construction is underway to adjust the facility. The alien would go on a killing spree. No Ripley this time around ofcourse. It would be all new characters.

[@MadLFC]

The most disturbing thing about Weyland-Yutani is the fact that for all the intelligent people they employ, businessmen, scientists, engineers and so on, they can't seem to get their heads around the fact that the xenomorph CANNOT be controlled. They have all this evidence presented to them and they still don't get it. They still want it. Truth is, those people just don't care. That's disturbing.

[@strangemonkey90]

Thank you for posting this. This alternate choice CONSTANTLY comes to mind.

[@АндрейКирсанов-г9ж]

This scene resembles another one in Hard Target, where Henriksen's character also tempting a homeless veteran to be a prey in the human hunt.

[@danielrydzewski5239]

If the last scenario had occurred, it would not have been 100% certain to Ripley that the cause was the Alien Queen extracted from her. The Company would have insisted that the source was either the ship on LV-426 or somewhere new and its true that Ripley's sacrifice only delayed the Alien threat, it did not totally eliminate it. So while Ripley would have her suspicions, she would never know for certain if the blame rested with her or not.

[@koppsr]

I remember reading in a comic, all though I don't remember which one, that it was mentioned that humans who were hosts to a xeno, but had it removed in time, are irreversibly physically damaged. So even if she believed them and had it removed, and the company held up it's part of the bargain, she might have ended up with a significantly shortened lifespan. If any.

[@kimie7479]

Awesome vid! Please do a analyse what would if Bishop was the one that went down to the Hive to save Newt in Aliens!

[@MiClLC]

In the first movie it was "crew expendable." But in the second movie Burke talks to Ripley about sending back two face huggers and being compensated very well by the company so I tend to believe Bishop 2 was telling the truth about giving Ripley the opportunity to have a family and have alot of money in exchange for the queen.

[@gottfriedosterbach3907]

They got you then. It is their mo when in a spot to dangle money and promises to lure them back into a position where WY can get back on plan. Promises are going to be kept where it is in WYs benefit to do so. The other party needs to be of ongoing value and the terms and risks acceptable from their perspective. Ripley only has temporary leverage and she is doomed in this case.

[@bradmyers941]

Great job on the video, I love your "What if" videos. Reminds me of the "What if" marvel comic from the 80's and 90's.

[@3dartxsi]

I always liked the idea of an alternate Alien 3 where Weyland Yutani isn't trying to secure a specimen, but in stead decides to cut its losses, so it still tries to kill anyone who could be a witness.

[@BC_J0MBI]

Man, I love this channel as I could have a conversation about anything Alien for hours. I love Alien 3 for it's dark tones and it doesnt deserve all its hate, It was a fitting ending to Ripley's character and in sense the true ending to the story. All Alien stories don't have to fit into the 3 movies cannon, which is the way I like to view them. Resurection to me is a "What if?" side story, a whole lot more lore is waiting that could come to the screen if they took this approach. I would love to see a what if about Ripley going with Bishop II only to die before leaving Fury and a hive being established there. It could re-introduce the Colonial marines with a new group we could all love and all while putting Ripley's character to rest. It's the chance of a lifetime...

[@rickdeckard7161]

If Ripley would have trusted them one thing is for sure, we wouldn't have Alien Resurrection (as much of a guilty pleasure as it is for me. If it has xenos in it I'll watch it and find something to like)

[@notbuster126]

Coming back to this video now that Alien Romulus indicates they were also after the black goo for human "evolution" for their terraformer workers.

[@YamatoNCC1701]

Long time fan, its been so long since my last visit (right after the luis doit drama) and I am going to watch the first video if Ripley trusted Bishop. By the way as a gamer, I made a "Praetorian" on Dragonball Xenoverse 2 and named it after HR Giger.

[@creepycraiyons3519]

Ripley waking up on the Patna…lights flickering….wires torn from their harness. Blood. Oh no. This ship has been taken over. Computer: Arrival at Gateway Station in 2 minutes …

[@steveflatman]

Ripley would likely never have been spared given her animosity towards the aliens. The decision to spare Morse was likely more due to the suspicious nature of all witnesses but Ripley perishing at both encounters on the Nostromo and at Hadley's Hope, allowing Morse to live makes it look far less like Ripley's death is closing off loose ends by eliminating the last survivor. Given that he's a life prisoner he would more than likely have gone along with any story he was told in exchange for better living conditions or the company being able to bribe his way to a parole. It's likely that a story would then have been concocted with Ripley as the cause of the deaths on LV-426 in addition to Fury-161 with some reference to paranoid delusion about 'alien species' being given as her motive, perhaps having snapped and destroyed the Nostromo (which was already on record) they could have said she caused an overload of the processing station on LV-426 believing it would wipe-out her 'imaginary aliens' and then after a freak fire on the Sulaco set about murdering the prisoners on Fury believing they were aliens or infected by them, before killing herself to prevent capture for her crimes?

[@mcphoney]

Great video! Learnt a lot there! I would be happy to see a third assembly cut with updated effects. The original (Alien3) will always be there wether you are a fan or not, I think the extended cut is the best version and it’s a shame that cut wasn’t released instead of the theatrical version. But combine everything with some new/polished Alien shots, I would I’d be up for that! Shall we start a petition to Disney? Keep up the great work! 💪

[@SeñorDossierOficial]

Such a complex choice for Ripley

[@macwade2755]

Amazing Video Alien Theory! Could you do a video on what if the OWLF task force captured the City Hunter in Predator 2, please?

[@paulfekete8116]

Fun fact: when I saw this in the cinema way back in 1992, the chestburster comes out of Ripley when she falls to her death. THAT is the theatrical version.

[@williamgallop9425]

What if A3, 4 etc are Newt.s dream? In end of Aliens she asks "shall we dream?"

[@BrandonShepherd-v4p]

In Aliens, the only 2 Africans died 1st. In Alien 3, instead of killing both Africans in the near beginning, 1 was allowed to be a main character & destroy the entire film.

[@nathanwright5496]

The bishop line was basically the creator going full Hojo. His mind baecame fused with the ai interface of the cybernetic body although some models showed some deviancy. I doubt a deviant was in control, however I am sure the model shown simply received the full memory of Bishop 1 as an automated backup which influenced the way they interacted with ripley in the end.

[@nathanwright5496]

Oh and you should not use labyrinth. It involved an as of yet unidentified parasitic worm that weakend the colony he was in to collapse. This was never fully explored, and it's easy to speculate the placenta simply didn't form.

[@jacobwest7]

I could see them being equipped with a piece of tech that could put the alien into suspended animation till the surgery could be done

[@noelienoelie8425]

"The company" only cares about your health.

[@luthermcgee3767]

Ripley knew that it was too late when she said, " i just felt it move." She knew that trusting bishop would be a disaster. A big one.

[@lesleyhulshoff6563]

I love this channel! Very informative! It had me answerd so many questions!😁👍... gr from Amsterdam Netherlands

[@Grimreaper240sx]

Talk about how the queen actually got on the drop ship

[@ozmozis6073]

Liked this. Thanks for making it. Very well done!