Alisa Childers | Spiritual But Not Religious: How New Age Beliefs are Infiltrating the Church

[@AR-rz3tk]

Thank you for this articulate and needed presentation.

[@josephschiavone402]

Thank you Alisa for putting all the crazy stuff I was seeing and hearing in the churches. You gave it a handle of hope the we are not wrong about what we hear, and we are not alone. Blessings Sister.

[@denisesavoie9915]

What you have declared to us is so powerfully true. It even gives us the right vocabulary to share it with young Christians in our churches that will be propelled into life and society without the full knowledge of relativism and false theology. We have to be very smart and cautious not as fools but redeeming the time because the days are evil…. (Ephesians 5: 15-21)

[@Gashd820]

This was so good. Praise God!

[@thankfulmama1001]

Excellent!!!!

[@S_F_D_]

Great job Alisa, thank you!

[@gardenladyjimenez1257]

I am a Catholic. The first time I listened to Robert Rohr, I couldn't believe that he was a Catholic Priest. I'm SO GLAD you have taken Rohr on in this presentation. I can't understand how my Catholic church allows him to remain a priest. Perhaps it is because nothing he says makes sense in a world of reality.

[@cocof.1710]

This was awesome!!

[@shannonwilley5246]

some excellent points are made here. However....many issues are not addressed - in regards to why some of these things are happening. very good presentation though

[@paulsmodels]

many issues are not addressed?? What do you want? She can't talk for hours just to please one person can she?

[@mjack3521]

The old covenant age is gone. The new age of the Spirit is here. What happened to women can't teach or preach?

[@paulsmodels]

Who said that women can't teach? Read and study scripture in context. Picking out verses, and tossing them about creates confusion and false teaching. The "spirit" of the old covenant is the same spirit of the new, and the same spirit that created the earth, and all that there is. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. God is a spirit, and those that worship Him must worship Him in spirit, and in TRUTH. There is no, "new age of the spirit" That's a lie.

[@fiffafluffy]

“But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭2‬:‭12‬ ‭ “Over a man” who is she teaching? Men or women? “The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; that they may teach the young women to be sober… ‭‭Titus‬ ‭2‬:‭3‬-‭4‬ ‭

[@mjack3521]

@@paulsmodels 1 Corinthians 14:37-38 (LSV): If anyone thinks to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge the things that I write to you-that they are commands of the LORD; 38 and if anyone is ignorant-let him be ignorant

[@mjack3521]

@@paulsmodels 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 (LSV): Your women, let them be silent in the assemblies, for it has not been permitted to them to speak, but to be subject, as the Law also says; 35 and if they wish to learn anything, let them question their own husbands at home, for it is a shame to women to speak in an assembly.

[@BrejaLei]

Many believe that if men don’t lead, women will step up to fill the void that the men have left. God will use those who listen and are obedient to lead while others sit back. Are you saying her experiences mean nothing, and she should go "hide that talent"? Besides in seminars that are teaching about awareness is not the same as a church pulpit. Alisa is more of a complementarian ->-"that men and women have different, but complementary roles and responsibilities in marriage, family life, and religious leadership." TBH, what does that say about men and their leadership if women have to step up to the plate because men do not?

[@paulsmodels]

A few scriptures come to mind. He who trusts in his own heart is a fool. The fool says in his heart, there is no God. Professing themselves to be wise, they become fools. Stop following, and listening to fools people, listen to and follow Jesus.

[@AlyssaDDani]

I think many wish to serve gods and spirits who will bless them with material wealth, make all their dreams come true, make their enemies pay, Satisfy their flesh And are only there to manifest their own desires for them And lead them to their own best interest here on earth So that they can meditate, pose, chant, And posture to get their dreams and desires manifested/satisfied and receive lots of good feelings, vibrations, frequencies. And positive vibes. This might be what spiritual means to them. And plus Their false and deceiving gods Do not Believe in the real Jesus as essential Does not require obedience to the Bible, Humbling themselves Confession of their sins Repentance from sin Being washed in the blood of Jesus as essential Trust and surrender to Jesus Letting go of pride But maintaining self control Long suffering and patience Crucifying the flesh Dying to self and self will Mercy for others Giving to the poor And so forth All that to them is religious/religion Also their gods will never punish evil But will accept all unconditionally Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life Psalm 19 7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. 8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes. 9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. 10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. 11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward. 12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults. 13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression. 14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

[@davidsayers6609]

External Truth like the 10 Commandments and God in heaven are old Covenant superceded Truths in the New Testament. Christians should know the greatest Trith of the New Testament "Christ in you the hope of glory" Scripture teaches that in the New Covenant Christ lives within believers. Learn about the Priesthood of Melchizedek which has replaced the old Aaronic Priesthood of external laws and traditions. Our great high priest the very Christ himself dwells in each believer. To teach external truth is just as much error as new age Truth.

[@jacquelineang6150]

Imitate Christ

[@imlisalisa]

Why would you “imitate” Christ? He lives in believers and pours from your very essence. No need for imitation - plastic imitation fruit is not nourishing only His Life is truly nourishing!

[@jacquelineang6150]

@@imlisalisa Christ desires to live in me. I do not always allow that. When i lie. I am jealous. I hoard. I am prideful. I ask often thru the day "jesus what will you do" His Will : what will you have me do. Pray to fruitfully imitate GIm who lives in me. Many ways. One Body. Ephesians chapter 4. Thank you fir your loving cincern ms lisa.

[@marcussheffield7221]

Are the ten commandments eternal truth? Then the fourth commandment is still God's will for humanity. To reject the seventh day Sabbath is to accept moral relativism.

[@babyruthswt2]

Hebrews 4:9-11. There is a new sabbath rest for believers.

[@paulsmodels]

What are you talking about? Have you read the Bible? Have you actually studied it? Nobody can follow the ten commanments perfectly, know one can follow the law perfectly. That is why Jesus came and died on the cross for you, and me. His mercy endures forever.

[@Sumwhere-N-Between]

“.But if ye be led by the Spirit, ye are not under the law..” (Galatians)

[@lindajohnson4204]

Colossians 2:16 KJV - Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, *or of the sabbath days:* 17Which are a *shadow of things to come;* but the body is of Christ.

[@Rachel_D03]

Christ fulfilled the law with the new covenant, which we are under if we are in Christ

[@justintan1198]

👍

[@jaliaskilo]

“I do not permit a woman to speak (in church or outside of church regarding church topics) SHE MUST BE SILENT.” ~bible

[@babyruthswt2]

Please do not abuse the Word of God by taking it out of context. This is a conference for young people. I’m not egalitarian but even so…If women can’t teach youth, then women can’t train and teach the children they birth and are natural caregivers for, which is illogical.

[@paulsmodels]

You are taking the Word of God out of context, and twisting it to say what you want it to say.

[@alainstasse4602]

What does a Prophet do. They speak the word of God (Luke 2:36, Acts 2:17, 21:9) Remember how Martha asked Jesus to tell Mary to be where she should be (in the kitchen) Jesus told Martha, Mary WAS where she should be; At Jesus' feet being trained in Discipleship. It was also a women, as instructed by Christ, who was the first person to proclaim his resurrection, and a Samaritan women was the first Evangelist to Samaria. Read your Bible more and read it better.

[@fiffafluffy]

Is she teaching men or women?

[@alainstasse4602]

@@fiffafluffy whoever is teachable.

[@TBird5790]

Pretty good stuff, but the insulin example is a poor one. The answer is to start ridding yourself of toxic chemicals, and get off of consuming sugar, excercise to lose fat and gain substantial muscle. The AMA wants you to stay sick, and need insulin, which is a bandaid.

[@jimboskovich6027]

If she is preaching to a group of men and women on. Sunday she is out of line. A group of teens, not a problem

[@gniksamkacb]

recorded on a Thursday

[@TBird5790]

Why, because you hate women and want to put your thumb on them and control them? You're out of line, with your pharisee heart if this describes you.

[@DP-gt7sr]

This is not considered preaching. It's a conference. She is speaking about the danger of new age beliefs. This is not a topic for preaching on Sundays.

[@henrieecen2938]

Do not criticise what you are yet to understand! Religiosity depending on written dogma will always attack the spiritually awakened. Two great examples Jesus and St Paul continually persecuted by Phariciasm. Thank God they don't crucify burn at the stake or chop of heads any more. P.S. Those who identify as being universally Christ centred must not reject their Fundamentalist beginnings, but rejoice in their literalistic interpretations of the Bible. As Jesus there is a time of infancy in the culture one grows up in. But led by the Holy Spirit, Christ in us, many hunger to grow in the knowledge of God in whom we live and have our being. Just maybe Christianity today is growing up from its infancy. Institutionalism dogmas and debating rather than FOLLOWING the WAY that Christ Jesus showed us. Allisa God's blessings upon you, but as St Paul said of his Jewish brethren "you worship God with zealousness and sincerty but not in TRUTH. Christ in us the LIVING WORD to be seen and experienced with the "eyes of our heart" rather than placing our trust on merely the written word. For those open to Christ''s leading may I suggest Richard Rohr (Franciscan) Bradley Jerzak ( Orthodox) Robin Parry (Anglican) Baxter Kruger (ex Presbyterian) ALL spiritual Christ centred Christians. They who long to grow others rather than attack others who do not see eye to eye with their own theology. My apologies for the long comment.🥰

[@kristellw5929]

It opens up to many demons as well -

[@berglen100]

So time still only needs one wrong turn to try boosting so timelessness still just waking so hand built are worshiped but free gift as same name I AM this state of mind called greatest very popular time race rules get trained about free gifts still attend time waiting for eternal self laugh at church of wood parables of skull asleep dreams journeys same I AM wearing mask of Moses only one wrong turn it is buried like Saul's behind observations got bewitched...................

[@jasonwilliamson8027]

Richard Rohr is awsome....

[@davekanak]

❤I hate religion but I love Jesus. ❤ God owns and is LORD of everything in the universe but your heart. The first thing we must do is obey and do the Will of God and BELIEVE in the SON of GOD as our SAVIOR and be Saved, before we can have the FAITH to follow, obey and make Him the LORD or our heart. I used to love singing The Old Rugged Cross, Nothing But the Blood and other greats like Amazing Grace. Then it dawned on me that God's Name is Not Grace and Jesus' Name is Not Faith! I don't care if apostle Paul or the Pope said it, Jesus did not! We are Not SAVED by a Cross, Blood, our Works, Baptism, repenting of sins, or by GRACE through FAITH! We are SAVED by GOD, by BELIEVING in HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST! SALVATION 101 - We are SAVED by GOD, by Doing His Will, and BELIEVING In His SON Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, But the one who Does the WILL Of My FATHER, who is in heaven John 6:40 MY FATHER’S WILL is that everyone who looks to the Son and BELIEVES in HIM shall have eternal life John 3:16 For GOD so Loved the World that HE Gave (Sacrificed to Die) HIS only SON so that Whoever BELIEVES in HIM, shall not perish, but have ever lasting Life. God's Ways are not our ways, and we will never be able to fully understand and explain them! We really should with the Faith of a Child just simply BELIEVE and PROCLAIM THEM! Jesus left us a Masterpiece in John 3:16, and you should never Touch a MASTERPIECE! The Biggest Problem God has is, self-righteous Prideful Religious People cannot simply BELIEVE In and Be SAVED and PROCLAIM HIS GOOD NEWS GOSPEL JOHN 3:16! They think it’s God’s will to Understand, Explain and Share the GOSPEL with their corrupt minds and words. Then they begin to Doubt, Change, add to and Ruin IT with catchy little phrases like, “Saved by Grace through Faith.” God, His miracles and the Gospel of Jesus Christ John 3:16 need no Explanation, and HE does not need to EXPLAIN HIMSELF. With a childlike mind, you either BELIEVE Them, or you Don't. Jesus told them to witness and share His Good News Gospel, but not to cast their pearls to the swine. If they do not believe and receive you, kick the dust off your shoes. God told Moses.................Tell them..........I AM. God told Moses.................Tell them..........LOOK at the SNAKE. Jesus told Nicodemus........Tell them..........BELIEVE in HIM. Jesus did not tell the world to Understand and Explain His Good News Gospel John 3:16! Jesus told the world to BELIEVE IT and PROCLAIM IT! Your SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST Told you how to be BORN AGAIN and SAVED in only 3 THREE Words, by *BELIEVING IN HIM, in John 3:15 “That whosoever *BELIEVES in HIM, should not perish, but have eternal life.” What part of BELIEVE can't you BELIEVE? FASTEN YOUR SEATBELTS! If the Captain pilot of a jet airliner announces, “fasten your seatbelts were about to make a crash landing!” What would you tell the passenger next to you who asks you, “what must I do to be Saved?” Tell him to BELIEVE that GOD so Loved the World that HE Gave HIS only SON (Sacrificed to Die) so that Whoever BELIEVES in HIM, shall not perish, but have ever lasting Life, and you will be SAVED, and on your way to heaven! If you tell him to Believe you are “Saved by Grace through Faith,” he’ll take that straight to hell.

[@paulsmodels]

Go brush your teeth.

[@jasonwilliamson8027]

The bible is not infallible or inerrant and its not the Word of God...

[@alfonsoreynosa8143]

Prove it