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[@Mycophilia]

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[@chrismoyer7778]

Thanks for spending the time to actually go along with YT Rhythm

[@chrismoyer7778]

I have a test jar that I have been playing with. As I see any abort starting I fill the jar complete with water and try to save them 😉those lit jars with zippies was an amazing idea 💡

[@chrismoyer7778]

I ate 2g of aborts last week. Had a lit bit better flavor I would have to say. Slower they grow the better flavor. Fruits in colder climates have a lit bit better flavor. I only harvest the bigger aborts. Always leave the small ones

[@captainhotbunz659]

If you had to pinpoint the number one cause of most aborts, what would it be?

[@Mycophilia]

@@captainhotbunz659 dryness

[@linusgoblin]

KZbin overlords, please chill, we are talking about edible mushrooms out here, not human fetus 💀

[@Eliqueme]

😂😂😂 For reaaaaal

[@vistagrown]

Right?! Psh... youtube hahaha

[@chandracox6814]

Yup. Crazy KZbin. We should be able to talk about whatever the hell we want, no censorship!! Whatever happened to freedom of speech?!

[@vistagrown]

@@chandracox6814 I agree, youtube is just power trippin.

[@chrismoyer7778]

Amen 🙏🏻 the right to my own medicine

[@RainbowMama143]

I just learned, the hard way, that aborts and pins are stronger than fully grown mushrooms. What I thought was going to be an innocuous addition to my beef broth ended up being a bit powerful so early in the morning

[@nekrokulter]

had the same lesson a couple of days ago ^^ Had golden teachers tho, so it wasn't too overwhelming

[@atouchofa.d.d.5852]

"Whiteboard Tek" 🤣

[@svho_DMZ]

People say the dumbest shit trying to sound intelligent.

[@random-oe9jy]

​@@svho_DMZ You're not growing mushrooms

[@SpoodyFlopp]

A note on flavonoids: flavonoids are almost always white to yellow. The bluing is caused by an enzyme breaking down psilo- molecules and joining them into a molecule that closely resembles molecular indigo. The aborts' tissues start to break down and these enzymes get released, similarly to how a mature fruit will blue/blacken when squished. The myc are doing this to break it down further and transport the basic nutrients to the favored fruit bodies. It's not "getting stuck" as compounds build up like a little chitin balloon chem factory; it's actually doing the opposite by un-doing itself. High flavonoid contents will actually prevent the bluing effect as flavonoids are anti-oxidant and oxygen is needed to create the pseudo-indigo. This is why water added to dried powder causes it to blue -- the oxygen in the water molecule serves as the oxygen source, similarly to water on iron/rust.

[@MissBlackMetal]

"...it's actually un-doing itself." Holy fuck, mushrooms are incredible 🤯

[@Ulocked_Eyes]

After reading your comment and watching the video I started to think. If mycelium stops giving nutrients to the abort and the abort breaks down what happens next. Is the mycelium doing this because the breakdown of the abort is beneficial to the colony. Meaning the abort gets reabsorbed and helps the colony. Then it gets me to thinking, should the abort be harvested or is it better to let it be reabsorbed. 🤔

[@Deepwatr1]

Dude, I couldn’t find a straight answer to this question and then from the heavens, your video pops up. Thank you for your contributions

[@Mycophilia]

Glad I could help!

[@freakyboo9263]

Literally same

[@jakereed7242]

The struggle 😆 me too man! Cheers sage

[@shawnwillis767]

Too much humidity

[@Jpres85]

Same lol

[@sim672]

HILARIOUS THAT KZbin POST THE DEFINITION OF AN ABORTION :) THOUGH THE DEFINITION IS FLAWED!

[@TheOriginalKazooMaster]

How would you define it?

[@1neAdam12]

What I've experienced is some coming up as monstrous. No stem, just a cap, growing into the shape of a small brain.

[@FaYT02]

Aaaaaah ! I feel better (not to have to harvest these pins with the rest of the shrooms...) ! Thanks a lot !

[@jesseb1298]

This video helped me stop myself from digging up every abort and saved the substrate for more future flushes. Nervous to see them turn blue/green but hopeful it continues to be reclaimed in time. We appreciate you! 🍄❤😃

[@Mycophilia]

💜

[@Caporicco]

Update?

[@jesseb1298]

@@Caporicco I've gone 12 for 12 all in one grow bags. Had contamination in 1 but got 2 flushes prior and 1 got some kind of fruit fly/gnat infestation but I got 1 flush as well so 100% success on all, leaving aborts is all good but can give you anxiety about contamination when some start turning colors lol

[@Caporicco]

@@jesseb1298 well damn!!! 👍👍👍

[@mushvibes9205]

Another killer, informative video from Sage. Thank you for doing what you do friend.

[@Mycophilia]

🍄 ❤️ 🙏

[@kiowhatta1]

Such a Common issue that has little or vague information surrounding it. Very informative thx

[@chrismoyer7778]

crazy, i had a bunch of aborts for dinner this evening seemed to be more potent

[@mattheweoliver]

I concur it may just be my imagination but I do think smaller=💪

[@trupyrodice4462]

​@Barry Weaver I'm sorry I've gotta be the one to tell you this man, but, uh.... she's lying to you bro.

[@trupyrodice4462]

@Barry Weaver 3 inches long and about as big around as a can of corn bro. Nothing but crazy dangling fury... uh, well... not not so much the dangly part... you know, now that i think about it it does look like a big fat ant eater abort....😂 😂

[@1neAdam12]

They are, by three times.

[@art755]

They are

[@ovrjoyd]

Excellent video, as usual. I love how YT automatically thinks the word ab_rt pertains only to pregnancy. Like the word is never used in any other context. Geeeeze 🤪🤨🙄

[@thechrisdud]

I’m pretty sure when he says he’s not showing any fruiting bodies in this KZbin channel hes talking about not showing it because KZbin would think it’s a psychedelic mushroom not because of anything to do with murdering babies. I could be wrong and if so I’m used to it. 😊

[@bongeye7036]

@@thechrisdud this person is talking about the fact youtube has a disclaimer under the video explaining aborts and linking to the NHS

[@Based_Sir887]

KZbin does this a lot. They do the same with vaccines.

[@hankkingsley9183]

And even if that WAS the topic at hand... how is that a problem? Algorithms are just so...damn...stupid Can a get a time masheen ride back to the 60s please?

[@jakelooter5139]

One of the top indole levels at Psi cup spring 22 was on an F1 wild cubensis abort...

[@LeviLamplighter]

Was on my way to shroomery for this exact topic... stopped here first. I love this channel♥️💙

[@Mycophilia]

Glad to hear that!

[@mirroredchaos]

mine aborted 3 days after transferring to bulk. formed a bunch of tiny caps while it was still a small chunk of colonized spawn. hopefully that didn't interrupt colonization of the bulk substrate.

[@TheOriginalKazooMaster]

I spawned my first tub shortly after watching your original video on aborts so i was hypervigilant...specifically so i could grab one of the aborted pins before it got reabsorbed and i preserved it in resin and made myself a necklace so ill always remember my first flush😅

[@Mycophilia]

nice

[@adamhorn6392]

That's cool!

[@nxzca]

im glad you're spreading the power of knowledge

[@Mycophilia]

More to come!

[@mrhanky5555]

My shoebox was doing great. Noticed the fuzzy feet making it’s way higher up on some of the bigger fruits so I added a fan to the grow room. Came back the next day and most of the fruits and pins started to abort. Conditions got way to dry. Hopefully I get something out of it

[@Mycophilia]

Fans will really dry out a grow for sure.

[@kr3wz89]

I use a pc fan with speed controller and put it on a timer, comes on for 5min every few hours, also put a humidifier in the walk in closet I put my tub in, seems to work great

[@jaceyates6315]

better to maybe just fan your mushrooms once a day then add circulating air

[@FloridaMan-xu1iw]

Where was your logic when putting a fan in your grow room?Read a book on Mycology (Fungus). You will learn all you need with any text book about the subject. The legal clinics in Oregon get there fungi from Mycologist and they read books.

[@mrhanky5555]

@@FloridaMan-xu1iw It’s called experimenting. Everybody’s conditions are different. I know what causes that. I’ll leave the book reading to you.

[@InconspicuousOwl]

Watching under the context of The national library of medicine abortion health info under the video & it still holds water (no pun intended)

[@helpinghandsolutions8665]

So funny, I was just thinking maybe I should do a small harvest. Haven’t seen a video like this in 8 months. Glad I got my notes.

[@thorny3218]

They are strong. Almost threw them out because I was misguided. Let four or five very small mushrooms dry in the sun, ate them the next day. Damn. I bet they only weighed a gram together and did a job on me.

[@Mycophilia]

Tasty :)

[@MOAON_AABE]

Did you have an intense journey or you talking taste?

[@lst9701]

Love how you talk about the reasoning behind it!

[@davids11131113]

They put up an ‘abortion’ info graphic alert up on this wow 😂

[@subiseth]

This was an amazing video, no one really touches this subject

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you Seth!

[@vistagrown]

Here's some mist.

[@Mycophilia]

💦 🍄!

[@bendrixbailey1430]

Whenever my son tells me AI is going to be smarter than people soon, I show him a KZbin warning, like the one shown here. Ha! Abortion warnings for the slang use of an abbreviated word. Nice work KZbin AI.

[@MrSchivy]

Dude, I just started with this and fell in love with the hobbie, just spawned my first flush EVER and it was mainly because of your amazing channel. This is the real deal. Thanks so much.

[@Mycophilia]

Glad to hear it my friend, congratulations!

[@MrSchivy]

@ I have one more question, if there’s any time for it: when dried out (I followed your way) some little parts that were close to or touching the substrate, got a very brown color and when licked, they taste sweet. Is that normal? Never seen that before

[@InDcent]

Thank you for all the info!

[@Amanda-qz1re]

Thanks for the info, very helpful for a newbie

[@Mycophilia]

Glad I could help 😊

[@FacesintheStoneShorts]

Thank you Sir! Top notch as always.

[@Mycophilia]

Glad you appreciate it, thank you 😊

[@andrewmodell5889]

3rd pee and all the spores come out the one before that has all the active compounds in a study I saw

[@nategoodwin3329]

Commenting to keep the algorithm gremlins happy. Great content man. Very helpful.

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you Nate 😊

[@Mycophilia]

I hope the gremlins are satisfied!

[@Theheirheirophant]

Great tips! I'm growing a few myself and my Shiitake fried short and skinny in a single clump. I thought it was too humid so I moved indoors with fan. I'll keep monitoring the progress. It's my 1st flush, so, Thank you for the valuable info. I was so worried I wasted a whole crop so soon. 😅😅😅

[@jakemertz2660]

great info, this all is exactly what I was looking for!

[@Mycophilia]

Cheers Jake 🍄

[@CorretjerFilms]

First time growing.....had 2 flushes and then things got slow......so I did a 5 hour water dunk and I got a nice 3rd flush......then I got a large amount of tiny pins that all aborted......and advice? Is this the end of my cake? I did a quick dunk since I had success with dunking the cake. These were Ryza pods BTW.

[@Str8Flossin]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@SevTheOnly]

this answered a few questions I had, thank you for the information. I think I may have got some of my mushrooms a bit too wet :( I'm happy to know now how I can improve on taking care of my colonies. Now I just need to learn more about infections and better identification for them because I think one of my bulk batches may be infected

[@GrimReaper369.]

Great video. Thanks a lot for sharing the info

[@Mycophilia]

Glad it was helpful!

[@xAsianish]

I've been watching a lot of your vids about FAE, surface conditions, aborts, etc. There is... so many different advice out there. It is all confusing to someone new like me. XD I wish I could see tablesheets with numbers to test out all these different theories such as when to introduce FAE, whether or not to mist the cake, etc. I had a couple questions tho. 1. So I've S2B 4 days ago in monotubs. From the advice I've received, I was going to induce fruiting conditions with FAE/mist once my casing layer colonizes a little bit more. Do you introduce FAE/mist immediately when you S2B in the tubs? If not, about how long do you go before introducing FAE/mist? 2. I've heard misting directly onto the cakes could stress the mycelium in the cakes and that I should just spray the sides of the walls. I should be misting the cakes somewhat to get proper surface conditions though, right..? 3. How often should I be introducing fresh air to unmodified monotubs?

[@Mycophilia]

I can go into a lot of detail on all these points with my mentorship program, but in short all of these things depends on many many factors. Setups, grows, blue thumb, all of these things will come into play here. It can get really long, I’m going to be live-streaming later so you can ask me these questions there if not mentorship. I will answer the 2nd question now as it is the simplest. No, you should not be misting the walls, always the cake itself. The surface conditions never lie. If it looks dry (aka no water droplets) give it a mist.

[@xAsianish]

@@Mycophilia Okay, and okay! I'll check out the live stream! Thanks!

[@beachygirl30]

@@Mycophilia I was told not to spray directly on the shrooms, but the lid and the walls. You can bruise the fruit or disturb the mycelium ? Talking about a monotub modified with 6- 2 inch filter holes. Then just fan 2-3 times a day and mist.

[@hallumium]

​​​@@beachygirl30 Je pense que ça dépend du vaporisateur. Certains vaporisateur ne font pas de brume assez fines pour pulvériser directement le gâteau.

[@jhenry7406]

So ,after 4 and a half months,I've got 5mushrooms out of a boomer bag,one tub that stalled.,plenty of agar slants,plates.just can't get to fruit.getting discouraged,have tried Ben's rice, ended up with a bunch of mush,gave up on that, currently using bird seed to colonize,cvg

[@Mycophilia]

UB is workable but not very noob friendly.

[@Mycophilia]

Regular grains or brown rice is the way to go

[@jeffblood7094]

Mine all looked fine so I harvested my first batch minus the small ones but after I plucked them the blueish green color was in the bottom of the stems below the grow medium where it wasn't visible. Is this good or bad? It is the first flush

[@jimihayes150]

That's the good stuff man

[@eliciashe-her4802]

Helpful. You answered all my questions plus some I didn't even know to ask. 😂

[@sowti2000]

We all love flavonoid rich mushrooms.

[@Mycophilia]

Sure do 😋

[@to2263]

There needs to be a alternative to the Government Controlled sensor everything KZbin... Rumble needs some work just not enough creators/videos yet.

[@ealya4938]

So, is it recommended to leave aborts in order to turn into mycelium? Or better to pick them?

[@HollowNpc]

This channel has been SO helpful, keep it up❤

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you 😊

[@Huck4747]

I love whiteboards!!!🎉

[@Mycophilia]

Whiteboard TEK, it's a Mycophilia tradition :)

[@TheLegendaryLardz]

Thank you🖤

[@Mycophilia]

My pleasure 🙏

[@soundbluu]

Your vid’s have been extremely helpful thank you 💕

[@Mycophilia]

Glad you like them!

[@DirtDigglerDetecting]

OK i just had this happen..... I Love you Man :)

[@0Tyr]

🍁🌲🍀 Just what I needed to see. 🌼🌻🍎 Thanks, Sage.

[@EnglishGoldenTeacher]

Why does youtube strike some mushroom content, but not others?

[@Mycophilia]

I’ve had a lot of ideas over the years as to why but nothing really sticks. There’s no real rhyme or reason ime after being in the scene for a few years.

[@nathanielringdahl]

When your conditions are too dry, do you just mist more, or can you actually add water carefully? Or should you wait until the flush is complete to rehydrate?

[@hallumium]

Si c'est trop sec je rajoute de l'eau avec précaution directement dans le substrat.

[@TURK_182]

Thanks for the info, you answered my questions

[@melissafalls9760]

Thank you

[@Mr.Gandy.]

Danke

[@Mycophilia]

✌️

[@GrAnZsKy]

You sir are a legend thanks!

[@Mycophilia]

Glad to help!

[@spacecityryder]

Your art skills are improving 😉

[@Mycophilia]

I’m happy someone noticed! 🤣

[@MacCelium]

Thanks!

[@mikequick5497]

I might have missed this, but if you knock some loose or free, can you still leave them? And if you choose to harvest them, how do you dry them?

[@_mikkyo]

i love how you're speaking semi code haha

[@manuepineda8652]

Hey, so if you have like 8 small-medium aborts and they dont grow, would you have to dunk the grow kit in water again??

[@Mycophilia]

Depends on why they aborted.

[@rkaith]

Awesome 👍

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@AVD-og9fr]

I have what’s seem like a lot of water droplets in my tub, I have an ambient temp of about 75 and the tub has a fan and a cheap temp thing that’s kept it around 90. Have I destroyed my first grow or will it be okay? Thanks for any help.

[@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter]

Don't put fans in a tub. So long as the mycelium has access to air, through passive air exchange, that's all that's needed. Fans will tend to complicate things and also will likely dry out the substrate. Don't use fans, don't fan manually, don't mist until around the first flush. If your substrate has enough water content, there should be no reason to mist until around the first flush.

[@Eliqueme]

🫠

[@Immortalsoul669]

For the 1st flush. Should I harvest everything at once or pick them each as they ripe. Cause some are growing faster than others and still getting random pins as some are ready to harvest. HELP PLEASE

[@Mycophilia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIbPaWSkqd2rrZI

[@danwilkinson2797]

It turns out the magic trigger word is not cube it’s abort . Let’s call them the little ones that didn’t make it . Everyone should know what you’re talking about.

[@Mycophilia]

It is cube

[@sanukthaiyoga6185]

Thx Sage

[@aconis88]

🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@BudSmasher]

"taste" love it.

[@nozz_iam]

When it’s gets blue, can you eat them?

[@TURK_182]

Yeah, blue bruising is normal

[@nozz_iam]

@@TURK_182 Cool thank you!

[@Lurch_the_Lurker]

I am so glad youtube added the "Abortion health information." It was why I came here.

[@Mycophilia]

😊

[@RebelionFiscal]

This got me in the mood for sum flavonoids

[@matimatt8566]

wow maaan this is awesome information for newbies, it helps me a lot, thanks

[@ZeOnetruth]

Have you started?

[@matimatt8566]

@@ZeOnetruth i do, with great results

[@Four9sFineJewelry]

I’m growing PE currently and it’s been a little over 2 months now. I have ONE PINE (seriously) growing. Why do you suppose that’s happening?

[@Mycophilia]

Hard to tell without your exact circumstances as it's very context specific. I do private one-on-one mentorship, if interested please inquire here! [e-mail]

[@LeafFreedom]

Pro-Lifeer!!!!

[@Przybysz14]

I had some big aborts and they got like fuzzy on the outside and i harvested them and ate one fresh thinking i eould risk giving them a taste test with one. The mushroom i ate would be 0.3g dried and like hour and half later i was watching a show and syarted to feel the dose and it was like i ate around 3g! I had aborts because thr room got too hot i think wheb i was gone but it was a cool experience and i will try to recreate it with a last spown with my new grow so i can leave all the regular ones for microdosing

[@martinking2714]

Awesome vid

[@Mycophilia]

🙏

[@egoroleson8670]

So you think too much grain in my sub would cause this? I had my tubs get completely covered in pins and just abort. I take them off and they start doing the same exact thing

[@Mycophilia]

Yes it’s definitely a possibility

[@jmichel70]

Thank you,

[@Mycophilia]

My pleasure 😇

[@dwaipayansenchowdhury4171]

Thanks very informative

[@Will-Max]

Good to know you don't have to harvest them

[@kttcali]

Are blue means great on coco coir? Or dung loving???

[@Mycophilia]

They’re fine on both. Stick with coir

[@benjaminnel5891]

Please help have been looking for a video about exposed grains and cannot find it now🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@Mycophilia]

My latest video on Patreon covers that. It will be free in 3 weeks 😊

[@NonZeroProbability]

I'm three minutes in and just realized KZbin is give me information about human abortions hahaha

[@CnAFormato-ib3ng]

I have plenty of aborts and feel like it's time to dunk the monotub cake. Would I need to cut or pull all of them out first or would it be OK to leave them?

[@-Pradas]

What did u end up doing sorry for late response

[@magicalbird5500]

😂❤🍄

[@brogers0108]

my bday coming this my 1st grow i wabt to avoid all that if i cn

[@kevandgizmo917]

Are white pins a light issue?

[@Cumgguzzler]

They should be white until they grow out more

[@ralphmalph6824]

Do aborts typically take on tiny spherical shapes? Like ball shaped mushrooms?

[@Mycophilia]

No not usually. You may be mistaking aborts with blobs, which are common with varieties like APEs and other mutants

[@mornehuman6723]

That flavonoids 🤣

[@jred3806]

Ive had these pins for like 2 weeks and i think theyre mostly just aborts idk if i should harvest or not

[@ZeOnetruth]

How's it going?

[@jred3806]

@ZeOnetruth I harvested the first flush as they were and they were all aborts but my 2nd flush was super clean because I improved air flow and lessened humidity a little

[@ZeOnetruth]

@jred3806 very nice I'm a beginner mycologist myself but I've been successful in making lc which gives me a rather infinite supply of what ever I need. I was dunking at first but I've been able to get about over a 100 grams no dunk so my modified monotubs are doing really good.

[@ZeOnetruth]

@jred3806 I noticed whenever I dunked it would stress my mycelium out heavily and they would be yellow. I think sealing the monotub is definitely the way to go. In fact they are producing so fast I'm harvesting every few days now. Of course I do play them holy hymns from the creator of the universe as well as edm and reggae or whatever I feel like they'd like. They're my baby's yknow?to provide the healing people seek so desperately but are unable to grasp without the help of an altered state of consciousness....

[@theoneleggedpagan1311]

Do you know anything about "Dancing Tiger" mushrooms? I'm having a hard time finding information about them.

[@Mycophilia]

Coir lover. So they’ll grow just like any other coir lover (GT etc…).

[@Recidivism543]

My humble opinion you have more aborts when you have excess nutrients...😊 Grain spawn mixed into coco and vermiculite produce more fruit, faster. I a stupid who pressure cooks manures... Slow an low...

[@dkgoodrich8899]

Keep up the good work 🤙

[@Mycophilia]

Appreciate it 🍄

[@ThePack812]

“Flavanoids” 😂

[@Mycophilia]

😉

[@edrevvvv]

But if u want a second flush... it wont contaminate or rot the next round of mushrooms? sure? idk

[@Mycophilia]

No, unless your tub was already contaminated.

[@pitermorion6036]

What mening if they pop up? Also abort?