All about Chara: The hidden protagonist of Undertale

Sorry for any mistakes in my pronunciation and editing, I'm new to this and I started working on this video already last October, so I was afraid that if I don't finish this video now, I never will.
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Gameplay footage used
Genocide run: Full Gameplays • Undertale (Genocide Ru...
Flowey on saving Toriel: Rynny Ryn • Undertale: Flowey on S...
Post-pacifist Flowey: STBiLL • 🌻 Flowey: Post True Pa...
Giving Chara your soul: GrimmyR • [spoilers] Selling You...
Soulless pacifist ending: BQuanchi • Undertale: True Pacifi...
Beating genocide twice: 0tto • what happens when you ...
Post-Spamton Neo: MysticSlime • Why Kris Yells after b...

[@ShrubSparrow]

Hi everyone! I wanted to address a couple of comments that I've gotten many times since the video took off. First, people have pointed out that I shouldn't take Flowey's words at the beginning of the genocide route as proof of anything. And I agree that I could have worded that part better. Like many people said, Flowey ends up thinking that Frisk is Chara in every route, so even if he comes to that conclusion faster in this route, it's not really proof of anything. Still, even if we can't take Flowey's words as truth, in this case there are other major pieces of evidence (such as the mirror text and the changes in narration) that still point to the same direction. Either way, I shouldn't have used the word "control" here, since like I explained later, I still believe that the player is the one in control for most of the game. I still wouldn't discredit everything Flowey says though, since his comments aren't really contradicted by anything else in the game. When he says "You're not really human, are you? No, you're empty inside, just like me", I'm inclined to believe him, because both Sans and Undyne also make comments that imply you're not truly a human during the genocide route. Second, a lot of people have mentioned that at the end of the genocide route, Chara appears to "hesitate" and the player still has to push a button before Flowey gets killed, and thus the choice to kill Flowey would still be left up to the player. However, I don't fully agree with this. Sure, you CAN still reset the game at that point and back out of the consequences of the genocide route, but that's only a choice if you already know what's going to happen and know what to do to avoid it. The game doesn't give you any prompt like the choice between "Fight" and "Mercy". You just push a button like you would with any piece of dialogue. I personally think you're made to push a button (instead of the whole scene playing automatically) to let Flowey's previous line sink in, and if you're playing for the first time, you have no idea what will happen after you continue. Lastly, thank you so much for all the comments, likes and the 100,000 views! I'm very happy many of you have found this video useful, and that you want to see more! I definitely would like to make more videos like this around Undertale, Deltarune and other topics, it's just been a matter of finding the time. I have a webcomic that should be finishing by the summer this year, and after that I hope to have more time to make some new videos. Once new Deltarune chapters come out, I'd especially love to analyse Kris more!

[@ItsB1998]

Something that's definitely worth pointing out is that Flowey *only* thinks that Frisk is Chara in the pacifist route, genocide route *or* aborted genocide routes. For ALL of the other neutral endings Flowey acknowledges that frisk is a person he's never met before, and the first neutral Flowey revisit proves this. When you do the neutral route again for the first time and get to the end, Flowey tells Frisk that he would never be friends with us and then says: "there's only *one* person I could care about anymore, and even then, I couldn't truly care about them." After these lines, he tells Frisk to "stop making that stupid expression" and then leaves. So for most of the routes/endings (which are the regular neutrals) Flowey doesn't think Frisk is Chara.

[@loicvoahangivolatiana740]

Oh wow ,you really deserve more subscribers for what you did . Also it was a very great video 😁 . It reminded me of some details and allows me to see severals points of view, thank you 🔥🔥🔥 !!!

[@pinocchialice6665]

Without question, this has been my favorite Chara breakdown and theorizing. As a huge fan of Chara and the mystery that surrounds them, I enjoyed this a lot and it helped serve as a good re-character study before working on my own complex character chain. Danke for your hard work~

[@pinocchialice6665]

@@loicvoahangivolatiana740 Honestly this. I subbed too, definitely looking forward to seeing more of your work, Shrub!

[@tenthclassgaming]

Fun fact: Chara means "friend" in Irish Gaelige, and in Scottish Ghaidlaig, it is Caraid, so there's a connection (I haven't watched the whole video yet, so I don't know if you talked about this)

[@silversamurai0267]

I think the mirror really is the greatest proof we have for the Narrator Chara theory. The fact that it says, "It's still just you, Frisk." vs, "It's me, Chara." seems pretty full-proof in my opinion...

[@jacobalexander4498]

While NarraChara will always be my favorite theory, there are still occasional bits of text that kinda breaks it iirc. It's not an ironclad theory, but I definitely feel it's essentially canon because it just makes sense.

[@WatchThisSpace415]

The thing is though, the mirror isn't showing you Chara, it's showing Frisk, no matter what route you're on. It's entirely possible it's just telling you what you/Frisk think, and Chara's memories are influencing that.

[@kx7500]

@@WatchThisSpace415 but when on the genocide route, you’ve given enough power to chara that they’ve basically taken control over frisk and frisk is almost completely gone.

[@WatchThisSpace415]

@@kx7500 Oh I’m not denying Chara’s influence, only that the dialogue isn’t necessarily implying that Chara is the narrator.

[@kx7500]

@@WatchThisSpace415 I think it definitely is implying that.

[@youraveragemop6300]

I hope this video helps people realize that there's more nuance to Chara than simply "hurr durr, i must destroy everything".

[@AutistRapper]

I agree but I dont blame people for thinking that way. for some reason Toby Fox really wanted to show how creepy chara was from literally using red text and calling them a "demon". its also the fact that chara literally never appears in the other routes meaning that the genocide route is the ONE route where we get to see chara and they are literally showcased as a villain. It seems all we hear from the guy is all the bad things about chara and never the good and its really confusing... Chara is a complicated character and I feel like they didnt get enough screen time.

[@HenryLoverMan_]

@@AutistRapper Maybe Chara's situation is like don't judge a book by its cover, it seems obvious that Toby fox is trying to make Chara look like the bad guy, while at the same time making Chara a somewhat complicated character, i'm unsure what Toby fox will do with Chara's character in the future. Chara has a lot of character development, at first she seems to be suicidal, Asriel or Flowey stated this at their backstory, not only that she seems to be mean to Asriel, as showed when Flowey said to Frisk that they were much nicer than Chara. Chara's personality in the beginning reminds me of a sociopath, she doesn't seem to be in a good mindset, most likely because she was suicidal and her hatred for humanity did not help that, but after finally getting what she presumably wanted, finally killing herself, she began to change, she must have realized what she had done, how she treated other monsters such as Asriel, so when frisk came along, she became a nicer person so to speak, she warmed up to Frisk showed in her narrative dialogue throughout the game, trusting frisk a lot better, although this is for the pacifist or neutral route, I think frisk actions change how Chara would act in the future, changing Chara's personality and mindset. Chara is not a demon nor an innocent child, she was put in a situation where she could not alter the past, WE, the player can change how Chara would act, depending on our actions, she can become a better person or... become a demon. It's interesting to say the least

[@AutistRapper]

@@HenryLoverMan_ yeah i just wish we could have seen more of their good side

[@charadreamuur7229]

@@AutistRapper *clearly out of character,you obviously don’t have to read this but I would greatly appreciate it, it is long I am so sorry I went on a ramble* As someone who kins Chara because I look exactly like them **super pale skin brown hair brown eyes and face that gets really rosey* But also because I have a lot of severe physical and psychological trauma and for a while when I was younger genuinely did hate humanity, The character for me helps me examine the things I have gone through and have done,respectively, through a more nuanced lens, I was often called mature for my age and had a lot of pressure on my shoulders to exceed and everything ever, but was also expected to be my parents ragdoll,my grandparents remind me of Tori and Asgore, as my self destructive and self sabotaging behaviors especially in my preteen years as I was processing all of that awful *Stuff* that came before *i’m so sorry I’m not trying to trauma dump,I swear, it’s just hard to explain without giving context* Till this day I have trouble recognizing my faults do not define me as a human I write poetry and stories But I am just now becoming an adult, and even though I’m neurodivergent, i’ve pushed myself to succeed even when it almost killed me... I try to use this character to learn to love myself despite all of the awful shit I was put through in my childhood, and all of the struggles and physical hardship and disability I face now because of it as an adult, I know this was really long and kind of stupid but I just feel strongly that, humanity is not as simple as, Interminable failure equals immediate corruption, translation: just because you were a kid who did not understand why you were being hurt,doesn’t mean that all is lost forever, it also means that you can still feel hurt even if it was ages ago; healing is not linear; neither is pain; I try my best to see something new and beautiful in the world every single day. Appreciate this life that I am still living;appreciate things and dress up;laugh at the hiccups, bumps in the road; and learn to love myself again. Despite what I’ve been told; to learn;and to laugh,and grow; Most importantly the *love* That’s what being human is.

[@Kjf365]

The funny thing is that people point to Flowey as proof that Chara was a horrible person because he makes the assumption when we start the geno route. But Asriel literally admits to projecting into Frisk in the pacifist route, so why can't he be projecting in the Genocide route? He's looking for validation in his world view and he idolized Chara so much so when someone comes along and immediately starts stomping out everyone that's a "yo! That's my best friend who gets me!" Remember that Flowey kicked around the underground for who knows how long. He can't be trusted to reliably remember what Chara was like anymore.

[@sweetiedropsesteam3438]

I actually really like the wording “At this point both Asriel and Chara don’t have a soul”. The fact that Flowey and the Chara we see in genoside are just twisted shells of who Asriel and Chara actually were really makes sense. I mean, if the fandom recognises that Flowey isn’t really Asriel at this point, why can’t they consider that the Chara we see there isn’t the real Chara? That Chara isn’t the person they were when they were a living child? That they probably are just like Asriel?

[@TheAdaoo7]

Exactly. Even when flowey is exposed to a bunch of love and emotional experiences he shows a lot of good. In his genocice monologue, he talks about how he was a kind and wholesome flower for years after turning into one. But he became just like the player, he explored everthing, was nice to everyone, had heard every line of dialogue. And he started to become wracked with dark urges because the only thing that could break his cycle of mundane nothingness over and over was taking a different route. Killing people. The upshot here is even those with no soul are not inherently evil, they're a product of their environment. They're sort of a blank slate. In the pacifist and neutral routes chara sees so much wholesomeness and funny, goofy stuff happening that they're just fine. Their narration is neutral, sarcastic and sometimes happy. They've woken up from their death after years and years and see frisk, controlled by the player, living a nice and warm experience with toriel, just like they did when they fell. And it makes them feel content and happy. The important thing is not only does chara wake up without a soul, they wake up confused, sad and even a bit angry after their death and knowing they got their only friend killed. So similarly, when they wake up in the genocide route, they see frisk, controlled by the player, slaughtering every monster they come across, including their adoptive mother, chara becomes imbued with the same wretched energy the player has and thinks this is how things are supposed to be. They awoke as a blank state. Confused, with their last memories being pain, guilt, suffering, sadness and anger. Even disregarding their previous mental health issues, Seeing all that pure evil and violence immediately after waking up, its no wonder it pushed them over the edge onto the genocide player's side.

[@kanbinadaydream6486]

⁠@@TheAdaoo7Both of these comments are such a beautiful representation of Chara, and I wish I would’ve been able to put it as well as you two did. Chara’s characterization was butchered by the fandom, turned into an evil caricature. Sure, they weren’t completely innocent, but they were also a misguided child. I think it’s funny how the fandom turned them into such a cruel and unforgivable character, despite the lesson in Undertale that nobody is wholly evil and everybody makes mistakes or does bad things for what they believe is right.

[@coffepot4800]

​@@kanbinadaydream6486Things like this usually happen to me the other way around. I've been in this fandom since 2020 and I've always fought with people who viewed 'Chara as innocent while the player was evil. It's also refreshing to see people acknowledge Chara's evil traits while also considering the times they've been kind.

[@josephgoddard7438]

Asriel himself literally says that Chara was never a good person, and that they hated humanity. Simple as.

[@tiziobello5974]

​@@josephgoddard7438asriel says that chara wasnt the greatest person, not that they never were a good person, and their hate for humanity could be connected to the reason why they travelled to mount eboitt (Asriel says that they didnt go to the mountain for a "happy reason")

[@misshooman]

30:17 I just want to mention that the game window shakes when you are hit, practically confirming that *you* are being struck down

[@gevodanl7082]

The window shakes because chara hit the world, not frisk ^^.

[@Inte_420]

Not to mention the fact Frisk/You would probably whoop Chara's ass if they tried attacking you and not destroying the world 😂

[@densrligedragegachalifedan6109]

An interpretation of Chara i really like is the one from the Narrachara theory. That theory has a lot of evidence in the game. For those that don’t know, the theory is that all narration in the game is done by Chara. In all routes. The narration always says you and not I with the exception of genocide. So this theory says that all the narration is Chara talking to Frisk. In this interpretation, Chara helps Frisk with many things. They translate signs written in the monster language, which they learned while living with the monsters. The narration is also almost always something Chara would know. And new home in pacifist still has a lot of hints. I just think that Chara is less direct. The narration for most of pacifist seems more sarcastic and fun, while genocide just gets to the point. Chara’s bed in genocide: My bed. Chara’s bed in pacifist: This bed feels really comfortable. If you layed down here, you might never get up. If you believe that Chara is the narrator. They never want to kill monsters in pacifist. That is very clear. They always defend monsters, saying that the dogs only want to play. Toriel knows whats best for you. And undyne is the hero who never gives up. What flowey says is also technically not evidence that Chara controls Frisk in genocide. Its just evidence that Flowey THINKS that. Maybe he could never imagine that someone with a soul could be just as evil as him, but of course, the player in genocide is. Frisk sometimes move in genocide even if you don’t control them. I think that this is where Chara controls them. In genocide Chara is forced to kill everyone including their family, since they share a body with Frisk. This isn’t good for Chara, and they become more and more evil. Some also say that all the stats you increase and LV you gain, is given to Chara, and they then become stronger. Your actions was what taught Chara what their new purpose was. After making a terrible decision that led to the death of their brother, they could no longer trust themselves, so they turned to you. In genocide you teach them, that their only purpose now if to kill, so they think you must want to destroy this terrible world that made them like this. They think you kill everyone to be strong enough to destroy the world, and not be attached to it. If only humans remain in the world, then there is nothing left worth keeping according to Chara. If you choose not to destroy the world, they feel betrayed because you didn’t kill for a greater purpose. You did it for fun. And then they don’t want you to escape consequences. At the end of pacifist after a genocide, Chara shows up. Even if it is a possibility, i don’t think they killed anyone here. They just wanted to remind you of what you did, so you never escape your consequences. Then there at least is a little justice. Chara doesn’t think you deserve this ending. Thanks for reading the long comment. My interpretation is pretty must just that Chara is a helpfull spirit that follows you, and even though they made a lot of bad choices, you can help them in pacifist. They learn that not all humans are bad, and gets over their past actions and grudges, just like a lot of other characters in the game. They aren’t perfect. They’re not the greatest person, as Asriel said, but I don’t think they are evil either.

[@AutistRapper]

honestly I think it would have been better if they just straight up said Chara was the narrator or at least show up in the pacifist route to thank us (not the ruined one). Chara is such an interesting character but the game make them seem like a villain for some reason so I dont blame the fandom for believing chara was the instigator of the genocide. its hoonestly disappointing chara never got some kind of character resolution or something literally the only thing chara participates in the game is the genocide route....

[@densrligedragegachalifedan6109]

@@AutistRapper I think that explaining everything about Chara would kind of ruin the pace of the pacifist ending. I always thought about it like, in pacifist you learn about Asriel, and in genocide you learn about Chara. I like that Chara is a mystery, and we will never know the truth about them. It feels a little bad, and sometimes i wish i could just know what Toby fox’s idea of Chara is, but i probably wouldn’t like Chara as much as i do now if they weren’t a mystery. Chara is one of the parts of the game, you really have to dig deep to learn about. I’m not sure if Chara was intended to seem like the villain, until you think more about it, or people just misunderstood the text at the end of genocide, but i like them as they are now, and i love defending my favorite characters. (I will gladly argue with anyone who thinks Alphys did anything wrong other than lying.) This is unrelated but i would like to talk about how funny it is that Chara probably didn’t know Frisk’s name until the pacifist ending. After that they say, “still just you Frisk.” At the mirror at Toriel’s house. None of the monsters say Frisk’s name. I just think that’s funny.

[@AutistRapper]

@@densrligedragegachalifedan6109 Yeah I guess your right. Maybe Toby made Chara up to our interpretations so they can both be a good person or a villain so maybe those fanon chara arts and games were not that far off (just a theory). I guess chara being a mystery is what is exciting about the character but I wish it was more morally ambiguous like Gaster because Gaster was presented as someone we dont know is good or bad while chara seems to be presented as bad

[@AutistRapper]

@@densrligedragegachalifedan6109 Personally like to interpret them like a sort of misguided person as that is very interesting (I also heavily believe the narrator theory) but I dont really care if chara is presented as a villain by the fandom since I think Toby Fox let us do that on purpose (although they should show more of the player's influence in the gencide route but the concept of a "player relationship with chara and frisk " is never explored in undertale unlike deltarune is with Kris so I guess I also dont blame them)

[@AutistRapper]

@@densrligedragegachalifedan6109 Chara is still my favorite character in undertale but sadly thats only due to a bunch of femchara art , comic and stories (please dont ask okay I might have a problem). But maybe that's okay since we can make chara into whoever we want so we simply interpret them in many different ways in fan works.

[@blazingtrs6348]

most people forget that chara died in the 2010s and that undertale could take place in the far future or the near future (unlike deltarune which takes place in the 2020s). this means that asriel didn't die by arrows but possibly gun shot wounds or worse. it also explains alphys' technology

[@excaliburknight1016]

Yes! This is it! It was probably far more gruesome than we thought.

[@Rabbit-o-witz]

that of course is if we assume that the game takes place on the US ! (its a joke)

[@wasdupdownleftright]

​@@Rabbit-o-witz Mt. Ebott is in Florida and the war was caused by Florida man.

[@franciscodelico]

I'm struggling to see how a bullet is worse than an arrow. Arrows seem like a much more brutal and painful way to die. Bullets are small, and either go cleanly through the body, or just leave a small metal piece inside. Arrows, on the other hand, are big metal stab wounds all over the body, and in the most common cases, with part of the wooden body sticking inside of your body, getting internal organs full of splinters. It actually is comforting that he probably wasn't cut and bludgeoned to death with more medieval weapons, but by modern, more efficient weapons. Granted, no matter what he didn't die without pain, because he made it back to the ruins with the human body, but it still sounds less grueling than the alternative.

[@Rabbit-o-witz]

@@franciscodelico bullets are destructive. they cause severe internal damage, can ricochet inside you, leave fragments and in most cases are fired more than once, unlike arrows. They cause way more damage, but still they are not instant unless the shot is to the head. Both ways are horrible

[@GenderlessP]

I just wanted to use this comment section to share these small thoughts I think it is both absolutely so sweet yet so heartbreaking that Toriel took Chara's body and buried them where she did. In the only place that receives natural sunlight from the surface. She interpreted Chara's want to see the golden flowers and their plan as them wanting to go home. So she tried to put them as close to "home" as she could. The game over screen. The fact that, whether good or bad, Chara remembers what Asgore said to them on their deathbed. In a neutral or pacifist route, they remember it as if they're thinking "yeah, I *am* the future of humans and monsters. I can do this", and in the genocide route, it's like they're thinking "yeah, I *am* the future of humans and monsters, and I'm going to destroy it"

[@angelaneeley207]

I would also like to point out the parallels between Chara and Undyne,they share a hatred for humans,enjoyemnt of anime(the narration makes many anime references),a close bond with Asgore, do some pretty nasty things to further there cause(murder),and at the end of the pacifist run both Asriel and monster kid realize they had been over idolizing them and decide a more pacifist Character would have been better(Frisk/Papyrus). Now that I think about it maybe part of the reason Asgore started growing golden flowers was in Charas memory.

[@Missingno_Miner]

Yeah, Chara and Undyne probably would have been friends if they had known each other. Or at least would have been close, given how old Chara would be if they were still around: Chara was probably born somewhere between 80-90 years before Undyne, who was born in 2091. It also helps that Chara shares a lot of traits with Asgore, such as an interest in plants/gardening and a willingness to go through with a plan that requires self-sacrifice for the sake of others(Respectively Chara's plan to free monsterkind, which required them to commit suicide and Asgore's war, which required him to do things he hated himself for doing.), as a resemblance to Asgore is what caused Undyne to warm up to Frisk: People who are like Asgore are the sort of people Undyne wants to be friends with. On an unrelated note, I'm still waiting for the day where I either find some fanfiction centering on the idea of an elderly Chara becoming Undyne's mentor in Asgore's place, or break down and barely sleep until I finish writing it myself.

[@misakitakazaki8951]

We can assume that Chara and Asgore used to do gardening together, since the real knife is good to cut plants...

[@angelaneeley207]

@@misakitakazaki8951 Nice detail

[@angelaneeley207]

The Waffle House has found it’s new host

[@whiskeredwolf4861]

fun fact (or not very fun fact): Chara seems to really respect Undyne in all routes! They’re super enthusiastic about her fight in Pacifist/Neutral, and they say she’s a “heroine” in Genocide. This is the single fight in Genocide where they speak in an admiring tone and show no disrespect for the opponent in their narration. They even go completely silent when she dies in the same way they go quiet in the fights against any of the Dreemurr family in Pacifist. So yeah, I think they would have been really good friends if Chara were alive for it!

[@veggiedragon1000]

Have you seen the theory that Chara doesn't have red eyes, Frisk does? After all, Chara's sprite has brown eyes at all times. Only Frisk is shown with red eyes in the soulless pacifist ending. Though they might be possessed, that didn't necessarily change their eye colour if you assume Frisk's usual sprite has closed or narrowed eyes. They just opened them wide to cause the red flash, mirroring Chara's expression. Hence, Kris looks exactly like an older Frisk, including their eye colour; but they behave like Chara.

[@naolucillerandom5280]

It's one of my favorite details, to give Chara brown eyes and Frisk red eyes.

[@jellykissclover]

ooo i love this theory! i think it might be a reflection of their soul. Chara doesn’t have red eyes BECAUSE they don’t have a soul but Frisk does. Frisk has determination

[@crocokuo]

@@jellykissclover even if we assume red soul = determination (which there actually isnt fool-proof evidence for), in that case kris might not actually have red eyes. Kris could literally have any colored soul (patience would be cool), or maybe human souls look and work differently in DT. who knows

[@AriaSerif]

I haven't seen that theory myself, but it holds water as far as I know.

[@fartyfazbear1932]

@@jellykissclover all humans have determination. flowey got his determination from the original souls, the old humans could probably save and load too and just gave up. Determination is connected to Yellow more than Red

[@flukemunga2236]

For a 50 minute well edited video that obviously took a long time to make, this deserves many many more views.

[@grubthegrub222]

true

[@ProphetLot]

47 minute closer but i also agree.

[@betax72]

Its also their FIRST video that is not the comic content

[@kyanitekyanos3998]

I'm sure someone has already made this comment before, but, laughing can be a sign of distress in those who are mentally unstable. As someone with PTSD, I myself have laughed and been so upset that I couldn't help but loop back around into thinking that it was funny, because I physically couldn't be any more upset than I already was. It can also be a panic response! You might not know, but tickling someone and making them laugh is actually triggering a panic response, most of the time- supported by the fact that a lot of people don't actually like being tickled.

[@nineparr3110]

...this explains a couple things about my reactions to distressing information gotta love people thinking im a psychopath because instead of looking upset my face grins like a fucking serial killer while im spiraling

[@manta_Cam7760]

It could be that Cara laughs at how nervous and a little scared she was.

[@tenchuukii_]

@@manta_Cam7760 Chara is practically genderless. They have been refered to as they/them throughout the game

[@megawonszrzeczny9]

I laugh when I'm feeling most strong emotions. I literally laugh when I'm so sad that I'm crying. I sometimes laugh when I'm angry. But that doesn't mean I find it funny It's a defence mechanism. It helps me cope

[@nmc123y]

Might be. But I interpreted it as Chara discovering that buttercups can kill you, so they got with the plan of killing themselves that moment.

[@nisor123]

I love the idea of Chara being "evil" in the genocide route because of an overload of LV, instead of just being someone irreedemable since birth Edit: wtf happened in the replies

[@kx7500]

That’s where all the evidence points towards

[@messmass2573]

still doesn't explain why it's funny for Chara to laugh in front of their best friend's dying parent and then used the exact same poison to execute their plan of breaking the monster barrier. You'd think that Chara would have the decency to not bring up Asriel's trauma of poisoning Asgore, but no. Chara just went with it while gaslighting their best friend.

[@Laura-zc6rm]

​@messmass2573 using the laughing example, when in undertale its filled of characters laughing at the face of misery to cope its ignorant to the themes at best and bad faith analysis at worst. And for using the method, it is clear by how asriel talks about chara that they were a very damaged child, suicidal even for jumping to the MT. Ebbott for "not a happy reason". I really doubt that the suicidal child who wanted their family to be free of humanity's opression, did a plan of killing themselfs with the idea of hurting their brother or monsterkind. Theres no evidence, neither subtext that proves it

[@ceilingfan6969]

Right !!

[@lenira7750]

​@@messmass2573 As Asriel said, Chara was already a fucked up and twisted character. But that's very different from being a genocidal, I think So she was already bad before leveling up, but after it she became an emotionless killing machine

[@EnshadowedMagician]

It's nice to see a video covering all the information we know about Chara while staying mostly unbiased about their true nature, this might be my favorite one on the character even.

[@pouncelygrin6699]

ikr? it's sooo refreshing

[@MikeHoneyuwu]

99% of Chara debates are like, “You clearly lack media literacy if you don’t agree with all of my points.” Really refreshing that this video doesn’t do that😅

[@CGFillertext]

10:44 I think Chara was trying to laugh it off to work through the painful feelings. We see other examples of characters trying to laugh through grief, sadness, and other painful feelings. When you kill Toriel on No Mercy Run, right before she dies, she laughs to herself realizing that you were the true ‘monster’ all along. Snowdrake’s father laughs about his son hating him, and then says “…that’s not funny”. Snowdrake is also trying to tell jokes, which could be a way of him trying to ignore his pain about his mom (and his dad). As Undyne the Undying dies, she laughs and proudly says that Alphys will be able to hide everyone from you. She even has a big hopeful smile right before she turns to dust.

[@bumbabees]

"laughing off the pain" is a massive theme within undertale, as it seems to be the main coping mechanism for monsters. laughing and making dark jokes because, as that one monster in snowdin puts it, "we cant do anything. so why be morose about it?" its possible chara just took after them.

[@Maria-ij1wv]

Not to mention that Asriel literally says he should have "laughed it off" like Chara did. I mean, he idolized Chara so might be biased but he's not a complete dumbass.

[@Unethical2023]

Not only is this a perfect and unbiased video for Chara but it also got me back into making theories.

[@pedroivog.s.6870]

I would appreciate to know where you post your theories, if you do

[@milofarah8773]

Very good video! I'd like to add that Chara seem to, at the very least, not be *openly* suicidal. However, one of the previous humans was. Toriels house is very "child" proofed, or proofed for a child that wants to harm themselves. The fire isn't hot, the fire tools are dulled. There's no knives we have access to. However, New Home, which is a place Chara lived, has no such messages. In fact, there's a knife in the bedroom, implied to be a gift for Chara. Wouldn't it be such a cruel joke to leave a knife in your dead, previously suicidal child's room? While it's possible they were suicidal in the traditional sense (wanting to die to no longer be around, with no intentions of coming back in any form, rather than wanting to die to come back and share a body with their brother), its unlikely they were open about it to anyone. Or, anyone besides Asriel.

[@Mopsspoof]

It’s hurt-proofed like a psyche ward

[@wildfire9280]

@@Mopsspoof And Toriel’s the only permanent patient.

[@anonymoususer9197]

​@@wildfire9280oh man :( i thought i couldn't feel even worse for her but here we are

[@Enter54623]

@@wildfire9280 oh god oh fuck fuck fuck this is even worse now fuck

[@vanillaicecream2385]

id think they first tried to end their own life on the mountaintop but being a red soul regained their determination

[@bezel95]

The trinity is explained very simply by the three essential human components: body, mind and soul. Frisk’s body. Chara’s thoughts. Your soul. Frisk likely died during the fall, meaning their soul has left and mind is silent, but the body remains. Chara also died but their body is absent while their consciousness lingers, and take our soul as they lack one. You can’t put your body in the game, nor can you speak your mind outside of dialogue options, but your soul is used to control Frisk’s body. Each member of the trinity lacks two of the three essential human components in the game, and so combined we make one balanced whole. But we know also, that when entities merge in Undertale, like with Chara and Asriel, usually the one who has most of the components is the dominant one. Chara lacked a body when dead, but Asriel retained all three, meaning he had the most control and resisted to not kill any humans. At the end of genocide, we willingly give our soul to Chara, making them the dominant one of the trinity. That’s why no matter what we do, there will never be a happy ending again, because Chara has the most say in what happens now. This same mentality transfers over to Deltarune. It is clear that Kris and YOU are merged. But all we have in game is the soul, where Kris clearly has their own body and mind, and can function without our soul. That’s why they’re so cavalier in removing and replacing our soul at whim.

[@wrinklybrain832]

Makes sense

[@11blackpetals]

i wonder if the three triangles in the Delta rune that was present in undertale somehow refer to this, the trinity. The trinity is now also present in Deltarune, where we need a human, a monster and the prince of the darkness to restore balance to the world

[@sollumi3014]

​@@11blackpetalsalso about that... i had a random thought, what if the prince of darkness is not the actual in game character, but instead the player, who could be hm described as "dark" sometimes? i dont think its the case but am interesting idea

[@zetsubo6323]

Frisk is likely still alive because of what Flowey said at the end of the true pacifist route.

[@alficiro3238]

based on the ACT narration in Woshua and Snowdrake's Mom's fight, I think Chara is the one providing the ACT options - but Frisk can refuse to "act" them out.

[@jamess.404]

42:21 id like to point out that some of the stuff Chara did to Asriel that gets labelled "abusive" is just stuff people do with their siblings, like calling them a crybaby. It's not nice, but it's also not weird for someone to say this to someone they see as a brother.

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

Yeah. Like... Undyne says things about Papyrus that in a different context could be taken as unpleasant, for example. No character is perfect, but none of them are evil either. They're fleshed-out nuanced beings. Toby's writing is cool like that.

[@fluffybum204]

I mean, me and my siblings literally threatening to cut off each other's limbs or scoop out our eyes I think calling your sibling a crybaby is pretty tame in comparison

[@iamkitzkatz]

nah fr me and my sister beat up each others but it’s kinda normal isn’t it ? we’re siblings after all

[@elijahbaley5556]

It's not normal if you consider the context. Calling your brother a crybaby in order to emotionally manipulate him into aiding in your suicide and then killing half a dozen humans when he really doesn't want to hurt people... ...is not normal.

[@bumbabees]

@@elijahbaley5556 they didnt kill anyone. asriel stopped them.

[@thomashummer6162]

I always thought that the reason Chara fell was because they were trying to commit suicide. At 38:28, it says that Chara says a joke about "a kid who slept in the soil." I think this refers to what happened to Chara before they fell, being homeless or forced to sleep outside by neglectful and abusive parents. They hate humanity because the few memories they have of humans are all trauma-related, and every monster they have met was nothing but kind and accepting. It seems quite easy to look at this as humans bad, monsters good. It also makes sense as to why Chara never talked about humans and their time with them much, because it was all related to trauma. The only thing they liked about their village were the flowers, which Chara probably spent a lot of time near whenever they were forced to sleep outside. IDK, but I always liked that interpretation of Chara, as it humanizes them much more. I was the kind of person to utterly despise the interpretation that Chara is evil. Chara calls themselves a demon because that is what humans call evil, and they are willing to accept a human's interpretation of villainy. Demons were always described as ugly and unnatural creatures, which could just be monsters, so it is simple to see in my mind why Chara calls themselves a demon, especially in the presence of the only other human who fell, who murdered their entire family. Remember, when you kill Flowey in the genocide run, you still have to press Z to attack. You can still reset, back out, and get out without any consequence. It's only after YOU choose to kill Flowey that Chara follows suit.

[@MitchWarren]

I don’t get it, then why is chara pleased when you kill monsters if she/he hated humans and loved monsters so much?

[@meriewanderer]

​@@MitchWarren first of all, they/them, second of all, the humans minds get twisted by you in genocide route

[@madelynscorner]

​@@MitchWarrenBecause of the LC acquired through the genocide route. Sans describes Level of Violence like this "The More you kill the easier it becomes to distance yourself. The more you distance yourself the less you will hurt. The more easily you can bring yourself to hurt others." Chara is attached to our soul, they share our state including our LV. The more we kill the easier it becomes for them to hurt others. Another thing it's likely that like Flowey, Chara doesn't have a soul during the game which makes it even harder to feel empathy for others.

[@somethingforsenro]

sleeping in the soil could also refer to burial

[@hunterotte9555]

Chara: "maybe you should pick another route?" Me on my umpteenth genocide run: "Chara, wake the fuck up, we got more killing to do!" Chara, the literal demon: (genuine concern) On a serious note, loved this video. A lot of people forget there is actually a deep personality to a lot of these characters and just depict them as like 2 traits from their most memed aspects. Also like how you sorted out the player, Chara, Frisk relationship there, as it was a lore aspect I was always questioning.

[@a.j.chaisson8740]

litterly said what i was thinking thank you

[@afallenhuman]

*Rake the leaves up Samurai*

[@tenthclassgaming]

more proof in my opinion that they are not evil.

[@dylan.bissendmylife]

"wake the fuck up, child. we have an underground to burn."

[@SunScourge]

Thank you for making this video. I'll also check out your comic, it looks so beautiful! I love Chara. Such a pained, flawed, complex character, with such potential for good as well. Just when I thought Undertale had no more secrets, I stumbled upon NarraChara, and everything made sense... the narration, which had been one of my favorite parts of the game, was a hidden character. One last, great secret, the best of them all. I also consider 'Once Upon a Time' Chara's theme. It's the first music you hear in the intro, it intertwines with Asriel's theme in New Home as their story is told, and Asriel blasts it during his fight... Ah I'm rambling =P What I really want to say is thank you for making more people aware of everything related to them. And getting their pronouns right.

[@ShrubSparrow]

Thank you so much for a lovely comment! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Good point about Chara's skin tone as well, that may very well be the case! I hadn't heard of the Narrachara theory yet when I made the comic, but it really made sense when I read it! I might have changed some details about the comic if I was aware of the theory, but overall I'm still happy with it. I'll definitely want to make a proper Kris analysis video too after all parts of Deltarune have been released, because it seems that there will be a lot to talk about!

[@CheddarCheeseReturning]

I believe Kris is separate from Chara and Frisk Kris' Palette in the Light World also resembles Chara's Palette, but in the Dark World they (Kris) more look like Frisk

[@LiMe251]

@@CheddarCheeseReturning since deltarune was planned pre-undertale Frisk and Chara may have been based off traits of Kris

[@CheddarCheeseReturning]

@@LiMe251 That's quite interesting…

[@DraftyDraws]

Part of me believed and kinda still believes that the reason Chara looks so different to Kris (even though their very likely the same person-or at least, Kris is the alternate version of Chara in Deltarune), is maybe because they’re dead? While the all beginning flashbacks are indeed brown and yellow, I always believed that the flashback version of Chara was how they actually looked, and that their paler and more washed out version we see is due to them being, ya know. Dead. Kind like they’re a walking corpse, but idk.

[@callmeobsequious]

I like the idea that with Snowdrake's Mother, maybe it was like...a flashback for them. They expected Frisk to laugh, just like they did when Asgore got poisoned by the buttercups. And if we assume that Chara's _homicidal_ nature was caused by the increase in especially EXP and LV, then they could be laughing because that's how they coped when Asgore ingested those buttercups. It's horrible to look at. It's terrifying. And all they can do to cope is to laugh. And they expect Frisk to do so too, but...they don't. And then the following line. "But it wasn't funny." That also makes me think that maybe Chara was laughing to cope, and not out of any cruelty. Sure, they weren't the best person, but I genuinely don't think they wanted Asgore to be hurt. I dunno. :P

[@jesterfairy3845]

To me, Chara is just a representation of the dissonance between the player and the character. Being a pretty meta game, Undertale makes a clear distinction between Frisk and the player when addressed by other characters, as shown by the interactions with Flowey and Sans. Being that the game has an overall pacifist and nonviolent message, it goes out of its way to show how much of a menace you are in the genocide route and the more explicit distinction between Frisk and Chara comes from this. The physical existence of Chara to me seems like the culmination of how removed the player in the real world is from the violence they're committing in the game. The game itself ends on a black screen, which should leave the player to see their own reflection, but instead the player is met with Chara, who represents what they've become and how ultimately removed we are from violence simply because it's being viewed through a screen. Also in terms of Deltarune, I believe it's just "the next" that we've moved on to after erasing Undertale's pointless world. That's why Kris resembles both Frisk and Chara.

[@quilaviper]

Very great video! I like the idea that Chara wasn't always an evil demon child or something, makes things more interesting that way

[@Delivery_Boy_Roy]

Well they are not evil but ok

[@nyes4596]

@@Delivery_Boy_Roy read it

[@AutistRapper]

honestly im confused on why Toby Fox only shown chara as a villain. I dont blame the fandom for thinking chara was evil because their only appearance was literally on one route. (and its the most evil one of all things). I fully believe chara is much more deeper character but toby fox should have shown their good sides more

[@powerfullpummel6417]

@@AutistRapperWe DO see chara outside of the genocide route. They literally show up in the pacifist run at the end with the flashbacks and are directly mentioned in the vhs tapes.

[@teokr5877]

Awesome video I just wanna add some extra points. 1. Kris is implied to be able to play the piano and in Undertale the Music box/piano puzzle use the leitmotif of "Memory" or "His theme" and since those themes are heavily related to Asriel it's possible Chara played the piano too (I like to imagine Chara orchestrated the entire dog absorbing the artifact thing just to troll Asriel once he finally learned how to play the music box song on the piano and the heavy Dragon ball inspiration with the artifact could've been Chara making a reference but this entire scene is obviously a very meta joke) 2. The writings in Waterfall specifically mention that no human has ever fallen down which means they were written before Chara fell which in turn means Chara has a pretty good chance of knowing that they could've taken a Soul of the Dreemurrs. And the fact that Humans declared war on Monsters because of the power of absorbing Souls in the first place, it's unlikely the humans knew that control would be split or that last time it happened control wasn't split(Cause c'mon that's a pretty good deal) oh and Asriel mentions it as "Control was ACTUALLY split between our bodies" so it's unlikely they knew either andAsriel talking about "doing it together" was probably Chara trying to reassure Asriel. 3. Chara decided to poison themselves, POISON themselves. And with the same poison they hurt Asgore with. It really looks like Chara felt guilty about poisoning Asgore and decided then to sacrifice themselves and, as repentance, the same way they poisoned Asgore. 4. The person we sell our Soul to is unlikely to be Chara. Entry 17 mentions a place of complete darkness similar to the void of post Geno. Chara has no reason to want your Soul either as they seem to specifically want to stay with you as you travel to other games and continue the search for progression and power. Oh and the person uses "Interesting" instead of "Curious" even though the kind of context was the same. 5. If we redo the Asgore fight in Neutral and talk to Flowey again without meeting any new criteria then he'll question why we're here and think that we want to be friends. He gives some REALLY heart wrenching dialogue about how there's only ONE person who he could care about anymore and that even then he couldn't REALLY care about them and it's really good dialogue but something really interesting is that he says to wipe that expression of your face and that it's pissing him off (Flowey is the true original Starwalker?) What's interesting about this is that why would an expression piss him off? (I don't actually remember if he said smirk or expression) Well the only time we see Chara in person is then smiling and we know they "laughed it off" when they poisoned Asgore (Regardless of context) and Asriel tells them to smile for the camera. So we can assume they were a rather smiling child and if the expression we had reminded Flowey of Chara then... Well we had Chara's expression which would be kind of weird given the context so It's possible that Chara is the person there with Flowey at the moment and what solidified this more is that when we load up the game after pacifist Flowey is supposedly talking to Chara and it takes place in the same black void as the repeat Neutral ending dialogue. So it's either possible Chara is the one who appears whenever we talk to Flowey in the black void place HOWEVER it's also possible that Chara is present whenever we're in a battle. Asgore mentions how we have the same feeling of hope in our eyes and we use the Soul to select everything in a Battle which uses Chara's name in the battle menu. Anyway this probably doesn't change much BUT it does imply that Chara is directly part of our SOUL and not simply possessing the body of Frisk so when we sell our soul to the dark void person then wherever he brings it would bring Chara aswell. 👀 I don't know why I'm here.

[@ShrubSparrow]

Thanks for the comments, and sorry I forgot to reply sooner! Many cool details here for sure! I'm especially interested in number 5, I'm not sure if I've even seen all the Flowey dialogue you're talking about. I've seen some versions of Flowey's speech in different neutral runs, but considering how many tiny details Undertale has, I wouldn't be that surprised if I missed something. I totally forgot about the part where Asgore talks about the hope in Frisk's (and Chara's) eyes, that would've been neat to mention in the video too!

[@Missingno_Miner]

Expanding on your extra points: 1.Chara unfortunately didn't do the dog artifact thing. In a call with Papyrus and Undyne, Undyne confirms that she came up with the piano puzzle as an excuse to put a piano there. Additionally, the statue and music box involved in that puzzle is implied to be some kind of memorial for Asriel and Chara. Furthermore, Kris isn't really a good argument for Chara playing piano: while they have a lot in common, they are still different people with different interests: For instance, Kris is implied to dislike anime, while Chara is implied to like anime and have strong opinions about it, labelling the room where Alphys complains about Mew Mew Kissy Cutie 2 as the "Bad Opinion Zone". Also worth adding: The "Memory" motif is associated with the Dreemurr family as a group, as it also plays while Undyne is talking about Asgore, as well as after sparing Asgore. 2.Don't have anything relevant to add here. 3.Not only did they choose to commit suicide by the same poison Asgore nearly died from, the poison in question is a particularly unpleasant kind. Buttercup poisoning would be an excruciating way to go, so it makes sense that they chose buttercups out of guilt, viewing it as a form of justice that they would die by the same thing they helped inflict on their adoptive father. Notably, we can also confirm that Chara "laughing it off" wasn't done out of malice, since it is confirmed through their narration that Chara has the tendency to laugh hysterically at things which distress them: They laugh hysterically at the sight of the Snowdrake's mother amalgamate, and expect Frisk to do the same, describing in detail how Frisk can't stop laughing before getting confused by the fact that Frisk isn't laughing. They also acknowledge that the situation isn't funny, despite their laughter. 4.It's definitely Chara. Chara has a very distinctive way of talking, especially in Japanese, and the speech patterns match. Notably, if the "void" that we see post-genocide is connected to entry 17(although I doubt that, personally.), it wouldn't be the only possible Chara/Gaster connection Toby has made, since a character matching Chara's speech patterns interferes with the "goner maker" sequence that serves as the introduction to Deltarune, being the one to "discard" the vessel, and that sequence is definitely connected to the funny hands man. 5.The exact Flowey quote you're thinking of is: "Say. Quit looking at me with that stupid expression. You're pissing me off." Also, I would argue the opposite about Chara: They're implied to have been shy(Notably, we are shown a picture of them with their adoptive family, where they hide their face with flowers.), and given how they're implied to be a former abuse victim and definitely had a lot of mental health issues, I would argue that it is more likely that them smiling was somewhat of a rare thing. This interaction seems more intended to show that Flowey has figured out that Frisk is definitely not Chara by this point, even if he's still projecting onto them. We kinda know for certain that Chara's soulless consciousness is linked to Frisk. Aside from the stuff you mention, and the fact that Chara is known to be the narrator(While people call this a theory, it's a theory in the way that gravity or evolution are theories), Frisk is shown to have access to some of Chara's memories, such as in the game-over screen or the nightmare that occurs if you keep sleeping in the bed in Toriel's house. Even for people who deny Chara being the narrator, there's definitely a clear connection between Chara and Frisk that remains consistent regardless of route. I don't know why I'm here either.

[@MrGamernova]

@@Missingno_Miner 3. I always figured it was actually Snow Drakes mother that was responsible for trying to causing us and his father to laugh with her powers of determination. If it was a condition his father had after her death you'd think he'd have had himself examined to figure out the condition and explain it rather than being confused.

[@Missingno_Miner]

​@@MrGamernova That's... not possible. Determination can't make other people laugh, nor affect other people at all beyond the reset stuff. Snowdrake's father doesn't mention having a condition.

[@MrGamernova]

@@Missingno_Miner I'd argue that it can since it's able to let people teleport themselves and others, morph their bodies or parts of their bodies, toss you or at least your soul around so hard you take damage & even mess around with the hud, I don't see why it can't also force people to laugh, cry, etc, against their own will. & yeah I don't think he does have a condition, I think it's because he's nearby the core in Hotland where most of the Gaster followers appear, so she could probably both sense him and make him laugh.

[@totallynotprom1036]

I'm a big fan of the narrator Chara theory. Though, some of the stuff they say is kind of really sad, especially considering the implications of them climbing Mt. Ebott for an "unhappy reason" and "hating humanity." It could be interpreted that Chara may have been abused before they fell since the check dialogue for the faded ribbon is "If you're cuter, monsters won't hit you as hard." I don't know about you, but that seems like it may come from experience...

[@randy_hato]

24:36 Finally! someone else besides me has mentioned this! (i always used to think, Chara is the narrator speaking who we slowly drive insane with LV and EXP, frisk is just the body, and the player is the soul i.e the one who dodges) i always thought that the game heavily implies on the soul being a different character, that being the player. And the fact Deltarune also relies the same story of "you are the soul." it gave me more confidence on that fact it almost fealt like toby implimented that in deltarune to give hints that undertale had this going too.

[@boxxylegoplaymobil8906]

frisk is definitely more than just the body but i cant even pick out evidence as to why i think that lol

[@megawonszrzeczny9]

I'd like to add that if we accept the "chara is the narrator" theory, they are the one who helps us [save] at the end of pacifist. I think they were a misguided child, who hated humanity. They probably hated themselves as well, since they "didn't come to the underground for a nice reason". When they came to the underground, they were met with love and care, maybe for the first time in their life. They probably loved their adoptive family (they stay silent during the genocide route when you fight the dreemurs). It's possible that their plan was to kill as many people as possible, but that's probably because they hated humanity. (This is purely speculation, but if a child literally hates everyone around them, they were most likely mistreated by others. They couldn't have lived far from mt. Ebott. They probably knew that the people they'd kill weren't the nicest.) They might have thought that killing all humans so monsters can escape from the underground was good. But their plan failed. They were confused when you first awakened them, but they had a fresh memory of humans being horrible to them and their brother. When you do the genocide route, all you're doing is proving that humans are the worst to chara. As you said in the video, it's the player who gains love and exp, but it's Chara who keeps it. You make them more violent as the game goes on. At the end, all of their friends and their parents are dead. They see you as just another violent human. They probably see themselves that way too. They can't feel anything (because they don't have a soul). So they want to end it all. But if you choose the pacifist route, you prove that humans can be good too. They never tell you to "kill them" when you choose to spare monsters. They actually help you befriend them.

[@ItsB1998]

Kind of irrelevant for a character analysis video, since like you said, it's a theory. It's not factual.

[@megawonszrzeczny9]

@@ItsB1998 that's true, but I wanted to share my personal opinion in the comments because it's on topic

[@ferngirltlc]

Ooh, this was a good video. I'd forgotten a lot of this, and more of it was new to me. I always thought that the player had corrupted Chara, so it was cool to see such a good backup of that theory!

[@Maggie66112]

The most scary sentence imo. "The flower's gone"

[@materyalmat]

I thought this one was some high-def million views worth video when I saw the thumbnail and stuff (I don't really look at the views). And my belief got stronger while watching the video. And then I looked at the view count... You're doing a much better work then a lot of the youtubers out there and deserve more views, nice video! And as for the actual content of the video, I found some evidence to back up my own theories or headcanons you might say. Some details went unnoticed and it was nice to learn about them. So thanks about that too.

[@ShrubSparrow]

Thanks! Since I'm a new channel (well not really, but I haven't posted videos for years), I'm happy with any views I can get, haha. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

[@caracaracat2958]

My personal thoughts on the Kris/Chara similarities are that, with Deltarune being a mirror world of Undertale, Kris might just be that universe’s version of Chara- a human who was adopted into the Dreemur family, with Asriel as a brother. This also makes you wonder… what role would Frisk potentially play in Deltarune? Unrelated, but just MAYBE Frisk could be the knight? Idk it’s kind of a loose theory. Just putting it out there.

[@PhantomGato-v-]

Frisk would be born literally a hundred years later Tho.

[@wolfenden9805]

frisk could be the avatar we created from chapter 1. Considering the shirt design is almost similar to frisk

[@megalootbags]

Personally, I'm of the opinion that Frisk didn't survive the fall down. That's how Chara was able to enter Frisk. I think there are only two entities and that in the Pacifist ending Chara lies to Asriel for his sake, and that we as a duo are Frisk. I think that because Chara's essence is in the flowers all she needed was a jump start of determination like Flowey needed. Possibly that jump start could have been someone calling their name. Once determined to answer the call, they inhabited the soul of the deceased Frisk. Where we also obtain control.

[@redbool1115]

I think it’s the fact that they fell into the flower bed, especially because when it happens again in waterfall you get a memory for chara

[@ilikemetoo3088]

Same

[@PedroH_Fonseca]

There's a theory that Frisk is actually chara's dead body and that they got off the ground instead of falling. One evidence is that they appear standing up when we start the game, but when they fall off the bridge in Waterfall, they appear lying down. I particulary prefer not to believe it because it's kind of bizarre.

[@megalootbags]

@@PedroH_Fonseca Yeah, that is quite bizarre. But I think it holds merit despite the reasoning being a bit flimsy. It works to a degree.

[@iigukutaiyou6403]

@@PedroH_Fonseca Kinda weird Chara attire and frisk was lot different the only similarities was hair and strip I think Chara and frisk isnt the same person

[@lilacpenguin5329]

This has been the most comprehensive and unbiased video on the relationship between Chara and the Player, and I appreciate it a lot !

[@cocobeebunnied7371]

I wonder if the narration for snowdrake’s mom being laughed at might actually be hinting at Chara “laughing off” Asgore being sick, with the “you can’t stop” and “tears run down your face” it might be able to be interpreted as the memory of what they did in the face of overwhelming emotions

[@AngraMainiiu]

I believe in the Frisk is Dead Theory. As the title says, it's likely that Frisk's SOUL actually perished and the SOUL that we using is supposed to OUR SOUL. It's literally the exact same one that controls Kris and why Possessed Kris keeps on "remembering" Undertale. The implications of this are huge as it suggests that Gaster has always been controlling the scenes. But the narrative weight of this Theory is good too as it implies that Pacifist Chara is simply pretending to be Frisk all along and eventually gained love through their new body!

[@alficiro3238]

the soul in Kris being the same soul in Undertale does make an in-universe explanation for the Undertale references, but why do you think the 8th human died and Chara made up the name "Frisk" on the spot?

[@AngraMainiiu]

@@alficiro3238 TBH Frisk does sound like a made up name. But it's also very likely that Chara had access to Frisk's memories due to their body and brain still being intact.

[@noti7510]

well, the thing is, assuming that this theory is true, how does frisk continue to be after we stop playing/the game ends in pacifist? are they soulless after? or is it chara's 'spirit' (as opposed to soul)? is it some determination something?

[@AngraMainiiu]

@@noti7510 Just because one is soulless does not mean they cannot have determination. Flowey is perfect example of that. Asriel and Chara learned how to be good even while soulless after pacifist and is ultimately a redemption story for both of them.

[@jakespeer7221]

there’s a way that both of these theories could work at the same time actually. at the end of the pacifist route, Asriel says that, after Chara’s death and subsequent soul transference, control over Asriel’s body was divided in two between him and Chara. this introduces the concept that two souls can inhabit the same vessel at once in the Undertale world. while there had since been attempts to replicate this phenomenon (i.e. the amalgamations), all of them failed, and it seems like a weird plot device for the game to just leave behind. except maybe it didn’t. with the precedent of a dual-soul inhabited body, it’s possible that the corpse of Frisk is controlled by both the player and Chara at the same time throughout the game, which would explain the narration theory as well as the one mentioned here. note that i didn’t really pay attention to Undertale lore back when it was relevant so most of my knowledge about this comes from this video and I could be completely wrong lol.

[@aishikineko]

Thank you for making this, it makes me really happy to know that the fandom still cares after all these years

[@williamrichmond6219]

Fun fact, after Flowey kills Asgor, the player has to press the enter button to end a bit of dialogue and that then causes chara to kill flowey. It is the last chance you have to quit and reset and avoid the no mercy ending.

[@MiloWildfire]

Just something I'd like to mention about "Kris Chara and Frisk" debate (it's not my original theory but it's a theory I agree with) Red eyes don't necessarily mean "possessed" or "Chara", as we never see Frisk's eyes. Funnily enough, we always see Chara's eyes, which are never red. So, the most likely possibility is that Frisk's eye color is red. (oh and iirc there's also a small bit of Kris' eye showing when they and Susie are falling into the dark world and it's red too, meaning that possession doesn't change eye color)

[@gabrote42]

0:50 "CHARA" is also the default name you will see if the game cannot find your name data, and in most promotional material 1:47 As the years have gone by, the extreme interpretation of Chara has become more and more unlikely, given new concept art and stances by Toby. I will adress those if they come up, or at the end 4:45 That wqs an amazing trick 7:41 Thanks for talking about it, because most take it for granted and don't say where it's stated 10:49 Reflexive laughter when incredibly stressed is very common on children and teens I know of. I interpret it that way. I often see people laugh in funerals. 12:16 I personally believe that they mistakenly used them in the Pie, and thought to use their own life to guarantee the Freedom of everyone who ever did good to them. In a very twisted and unhealthy manner, of course. 14:28 This is my interpretation. Unless Chara is the worst at mind modelling ever, there's no way that they intended to do that diplomatically, but I also doubt they would feel THAT strongly about killing humans given their personality at the end of a No Mercy run. Carrying a corpse is no way to make humans cooperative, especially bigotes humans. I think they wanted 6 ASAP, display superiority to guarantee peace, then immediately break the barrier and hold the line until they asserted themselves. Of course, that failed. PoorCommunicationKills. 15:22 Notes: Undyne is described in the same terms by Monster Kid, and is replaced by Papyrus as their Hero. Also note that Frisk had our guidance, Flowey's advice, and unlimited attempts. Kind of unfair to Chara, ngl. 15:44 It's possible, but it could also be them genuinely trying to back off and Asriel becoming convinced by that act. We know that even soulless Asriel had a strong moral drive. But I don't discount it, it may be so. 17:42 Actually it would be us, but Flowey does not suspect it. I think Flowey is projecting here a bit too, but yeah, these are the first times you explicitly interpret the narrator as Chara, even if I think they were the same all along. 18:51 Alsothe brand name bar on Toriel's fridge. 19:29 Papyrus took the longest. Sans was themost dangerous 20:52 The narrator fails to speak until the flowey fight. If you immediately go back, they will guess that the flowers broke your fall. Your MASSIVE DT woke them up. 21:33 And Asgore already had at least 5, probably 6 human souls 23:59 He shows them to a human with the same shine of hope in their eyes. He keeps the "Mr. Dad Guy" sweater... 24:12 The more you kill or are in proximity to death, the easier it is to distance yourself. The less it hurts. It becomes easier to hurt others. That is quantified by EXP and L.O.VE. Chara currently is both on a second-hand soul (which barely gives them bonus emotions) and sharing *19 LOVE* with a passive puppet and YOU. I would not say that's a good asessment of someone's personality NGL. 24:24 YOU did, of course. This is, as far as the early fandom was concerned, not Frisk. This is merely mainchara. Chara (the "true name" for the human who is represented by spr_truechara) is speaking. mainchara has all traces of their personality removed, with one exception. "You just remembered something funny". This came after the first concepts of Deltarune, so we should see this. 24:34 There we go 25:40 I think you are teaching them, not unlike how one would guide Le Batteur, but with more information and choice. The average geno run player closely resembles Flowey, more than any other character 26:10 I jumped the gun. My bad 26:49 You do have to hit Enter in Flowey's case. If you instead hold Alt+F4, you can cancel the run at no consequence to yourself. Make no mistake, Chara was holding back, just a bit, until you nodded to see what happens next. 29:17 The japanese text says something more like "Who told you you could order me around?" or something along those lines. One can find MANY clarifications to MANY lines if they read the japanese text as well. Particularly in DR. I would recommend The determinators tumblr blog, but know that you will need to find their masterpost, as one can no longer input pages into the URL to find the content due to going dash only. 32:06 I mean, mainchara's body was already walking past puzzles by the time you meet Papyrus. That's merely LV 7 or so. And the narrator was already opening books at random pages in LV 1. Just that they now have become conviced in their guide. You can cancel No Mercy rught up to Flowey dying. There's no recent event where you go ordering them around against their will 32:53 Not necessarily. They just don't think you should get to enjoy the Freedom. Younthink you are above consequences. As far as they know, you should be able to play in the surface, not knowing the game ends there. They are just taking that away from YOU. 36:28 Here we go 37:27 This was confirmed by WordofGod to be from Asriel. The rest of the points stand. 37:56 I need to read that one. I mainly read determinators' post about it 38:50 I love how it's so disturbing that LV1 Chara is practically losibg their mind and forgetti g they are not the obe performing the actions 41:36 Concept art shows them being sociable with Asriel. The alarm clock dialogue make them out to be efficient and caring, something impressed upon their family. And they are one of four characters (Chara, Kris, Susie, Noelle) who are forbidden from appearing in non-group merchandise, because it would sabotage "what they represent", in Toby's words. mainchara is not subject to that restriction. What could possibly be as important as Kris' struggle with YOU and agency? As Susie's stellar character growth? Noelle's suffering and quest to save Kris? Murderchild? No way, dude. They are important to the message of Undertale. Know this. 42:05 Darn jumped the gun again 45:34 They are close friends with Catti. They even summon demons together (and Kris click on poppups about it) 45:51 Kris, the Kris without us in them, and the one who opposes our actions during CH2, seem to care a lot about Susie. Please check determinators for full breakdowns. I recommend autoscrolling to about a year back, or find someone who stockpiled links, like me.

[@ShrubSparrow]

Thanks for such a detailed comment! It's fun to hear a liveblog of people's thoughts while watching the video. I'll check out that blog for any future videos I might make to be sure I won't miss any important details.

[@gabrote42]

@@ShrubSparrow happy to provide! Ever since I read anistuff's comments in FTL videos in this format I adopted it. Seems to be popular. I hope you get good mileage out of the blog, and if YT allowed links I would so link to posts in these discussions. If you ever need sources, ring me up. Will try to find them.

[@TheSwordsman100]

This is good breakdown of the different facets of Chara. (though even more proof of Chara being the narrator has come out since that original Tumblar post) I do want to offer a small but important correction, while the start of the scene is indeed on auto pilot, where Chara has taken control, when Flowey turns his face into his original face in a bit to get Chara not to kill him control is suddenly given back to the player, requiring the player to continue. In other words Chara does hesitate and this prompt is the last chance you have to back out of the Genocide route without corrupting your save.

[@mill2712]

For anyone curious, on 29:25 there are 234 9s on the final attack. If anyone knows what that number is, feel free to share.

[@litakagami4339]

The 234 angel number means good things are coming. "Seeing 234 is a sign that that you're heading in the right direction and need to hold out for your hard work to pay off. Your angels have seen you battling through the hard times, and they want you to know that things will start to get better." ehm...

[@TheWanderingTaco]

@@litakagami4339 that's dark, man!

[@noti7510]

(1.00 x10^234)-1 I guess. well, that's one way of expressing it

[@wildfire9280]

@@noti7510 oh hey someone actually remembered notation.

[@user-lt8lm1vv9v]

33:03 Honestly, I think the beginning of Deltarune's chapter 2 makes the "Chara shows Player they are not above consequenses by scaring them off and doesn't harm anyone* (*except a pie, perhaps)" all the more plausible! Very good Chara video! Made me quite nostalgic. The narra!Chara theory was what got me interested in the Undertale in the first place ;))

[@mintw4241]

This is a great video but at 17:30 you make a notable mistake. You assume that chara must be “in control” because flowey thinks Frisk is them… but flowey ALWAYS thinks Frisk is them. Its kind of the crux of the entire True Pacifist ending.

[@mintw4241]

There are like three moments in the entire Geno run where chara is undisputedly in control, and its always attacking extra times or the “actually i changed my mind” jumpscare

[@ShrubSparrow]

That's honestly a fair point! I shouldn't have used Flowey's words here as definite proof, and I should have worded that differently. I think the red text and the mirror still basically confirm that Chara's consciousness is way more on the surface than in other runs. But I shouldn't have really said "in control" either, since the player still has the control for a long time after this (and people still don't agree whether the player is their own thing, Frisk or Chara)

[@pedroivog.s.6870]

Thank you a lot for sorting things together, sometimes ot gets really confusing with so much theory material, to the point I forgot some parts of the game itself. Also, it was very new to hear an explanation for how that possession of Frisk from Chara happened. Even though it doesn't involve the same mechanics as the resurrection of Asriel as Flowey with determination, it ties well with the speeches during genocide. Btw, in 29:10 ,iIronically, even at this point with Chara, you can still just close and reopen the game for no acknowledgement of them. Even there, the player is still in control up to the last speech.

[@Fatumity]

i believe Chara might be able to do a scary red eyes face hence why Asriel asks them to do it and then gets scared of it, later as a Flower in geno, he gets scared when Chara does it but this time not as a prank, but approaches the Flower while doing the expression

[@jacksonvoet8312]

Funnily enough, Chara’s eyes are only red when possessing Frisk in the Soulless pacifist ending. And in the genocide jumpscare, Chara’s eyes are brownish black. Therefore, it could be interpreted that Frisk has red eyes, not Chara.

[@Fatumity]

@@jacksonvoet8312 yeah both would creep Asriel out

[@kamithegreat4]

A MASTERPIECE OF A VIDEO!!! I USUALLY CAN'T SIT THROUGH A 20 MINUTE VIDEO ALL IN ONE GO BUT I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ONCE TO LOOK AWAY FROM THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH I WILL DEFINITELY BE COMING BACK TO THIS AND YOU WORDED THINGS SO PERFFECTLY IN WAYS THAT MAKE PERFECT SENSE TO MY SILLY LITTLE BRAIN!

[@theshadekin9574]

The video covers a good amount of lore even for someone not fimiliar to it , it also go straight to the point. Very Nice 👍

[@Oceane1803]

Thank you, finally someone who acknowledges all of that ! I sub. By the way, there's also the fact that, just like Chara, Kris wears a green pullover with one yellow stripe, though the shades of green and yellow are the same as Asriel's pullover and not Chara's. Also they both like knives and both seem to not like humans since Kris immediatly closes the book about humans in Chapter 2. And I also think that the end of Detarune Chapter 1 sheds some light on what's going on in the soulless pacifist ending. People think that Chara went to kill everyone. But that's what they want you to think. In Deltarune, we thought that Kris was gonna kill people. But all that threatening stuff was just a prank and they actually just went for that pie. I think that Chara did the same. They threatened us with these shining red eyes, and just like Kris, they made their left eye shine brighter with that white particles effect. But actually, I think they simply went for that pie, just like Kris, that Toriel left for them at the beginning of the cutscene. Not that much of a bad ending it seems. I think that the fandom takes both Kris and Chara a lot more seriously than they themselves do. They're both big pranksters. The picture might have also been a prank. I mean it's just a picture. It's not like they've shown Chara surrounded by six piles of dust. In fact, it seems like a photo so they probably all just took a happy photo and Chara crossed their faces with a red pencil as one of these twisted pranks that they often like to do. If they took the time to take a photo together, it's likely that Chara actually spent time with them, and didn't plan to kill them at all. If they did, they likely would have done it right away, long before the other characters even considered taking photos with them. Oh actually. I just rewatched the scene and remembered that, long ago, I was thinking that they crossed the faces of their friends because, since the photo appears if you decide to not stay with Toriel, they've became distant with their friends and they don't really see them a lot anymore. If you think about it, the sepia colors really give a vibe of a memory of the past, and I think that basically in both pacifist and soulless pacifist, not staying with Toriel results in Frisk/Chara not really seeing their friends anymore. And since in soulless pacifist, it's Chara who can be a bit weird and kinda twisted sometimes, a bit like Kris once again, not Frisk, they decided to cross the faces of their former friends, as if they were gone, because they're gone from their life. So there you go, that's my thoughts on why Chara may not be so bad.

[@pouncelygrin6699]

yyeeeeaaa I love this analysis you did a great job making it, definitely going with that head canon too, it's always nice to see that undertale is still going strong after all these years

[@yusheitslv100]

This video popped into my feed a few days before it turned one year old, and I have to say thank you. Your AU/comic and this video really helped with figuring out how Chara went from "not the greatest person" to an abuser/manipulator. For the past 2 years, I have been trying to figure it out, with the only concrete conclusion I had was the pie incident being the trigger. I now, I get it. Again, thank you.

[@AzzyKold]

I don't like when people blame Chara for genocide. Geniside is the only one rout that you can't do axidantly, and it only the player choose to go in that rout. In that way the true villiam is player

[@Jane-ow7sr]

I feel like this is much more clear in Deltarune but does apply for Undertale. Just seems like theres so much stuff going on in Undertale that it wouldn't be picked up on at first for newbies.

[@majamaranda6618]

Both the player and Chara are the villains in the genocide route. While the player started the genocide route, Chara still helped them and seemed to enjoy the route.

[@nosoreel5556]

I think you nailed it; I like to think that Chara was a troubled child who was brought back for one of two purposes, enforced by the player (similar to the “Deltarune” prophecy having two fulfillments): either to finish what was started to consume the monster world with the hatred Chara had for the humans (and learn it’s equally futile), or for a second shot at companionship through Frisk’s adventure, kinda like having your hand held and being forced to accept the brighter side of life. Both compelling endings in my opinion.

[@JoeMecca]

What an awesome video. It's really informative. Thank you for putting this together!

[@KeyMan94]

this video is one of the best structured and explained (with proof) undertale lore videos I've seen! thanks!!!

[@unleafed5038]

i cant believe just how much there is to an indie game made by a guy in his early 20s. i was a diehard fan of the game in 2016 onward, and to this day im finding out new, big things about the game. I never realised i didnt understand what the story of the first human was until i saw this video. mindblowing

[@rockincradilyyyy8489]

Is no one talking about how they say that flowey “Confirms” that in genocide route chara is controlling frisk I don’t get that, flowey is always one to make assumptions, who says this time he’s right

[@shipperina2213]

honestly I wouldn't trust Flowey's judgement since he is prone to projecting his ideas and feelings onto Chara

[@rockincradilyyyy8489]

@@shipperina2213 EXACTLY

[@_Fnaf_]

Thank you for this video. I’m pretty new to the fandom and was confused about a lot of things and lore. This made me understand it all a bit more :)

[@alinaseier]

This is genuinely one of the best undertale video i’ve seen in a very long time i’m so happy i’ve found your channel :D i look forward to seeing more of your analysis videos in the future !!!!

[@KiffKan]

35:00 I'd argue that chara isnt a demon by nature it's that they see themselve as one, in the game the narrator gets more negative the more you kill which clearly shows that these killings affect chara. She isnt someone who always enjoyed killing in fact it makes her depressed, we only teached her that the gain of power is the only thing that matters. I mean in the second genocide run she straight up calls you peverted for your actions because you arent even gaining power anymore so she can't understand why you'd kill these people for no reason.

[@GodChaos333]

I was just recommended this video on the deltarune topic, I hope more people get to see this. It’s very well done. I hope you continue to do more stuff.

[@nidgithm]

it's been so long since i saw anything related to Undertale my memory of everything has become really fuzzy, and the fact that i was pretty young at the time doesn't help either. this makes for a great refresher, thanks

[@Lulu_73]

This was such an interesting and good summary of charas lore and I look forward seeing more analysis videos!

[@GippyHappy]

I think this is one of the best Chara-narrator explanations I have seen. I appreciate that you aren't super biased. Some people get so mad when someone likes evil-Chara or totally-not-evil-Chara, but to me it feels like Toby left it vague on purpose. Maybe Chara was a troubled child with a good heart, or maybe Chara was totally evil all a long. It adds to the fun for the character you get to name after yourself to be able to fit whatever idea you like best.

[@crazedauthor98]

Loved this video! I'm so glad there is a video that really dissects the clues about Chara's character (heh) and explains the theories in a non-biased way. It's especially refreshing because most everyone gravitates to the one scene at the end of genocide and believe that is all there is to it. For my personal headcanon, I believe when Chara was alive, they were deeply traumatized by some past events with humans, leaving them with a hatred of them. However, when they fell into the underground, they grew to care for monsters due to the royal family's care for them. They became loving parents and a brother to them. Their trauma doesn't go away. They aren't always the nicest and have different than usual responses to guilt (laughing at that kind of situation is actually a common trauma response), but they still love their family and all monsters. Perhaps too much. Due to their trauma and love for the monsters, they came up with the plan to free all monsters by sacrificing themselves to use their soul. I don't think when they went up to the surface they wanted to kill every human present. I think they were just overcome by anger due to their past and wanted to quickly eliminate all the humans in the area to further the plan, but were stopped by Asriel. Perhaps during their struggle for control, Chara felt anger towards Asriel too. This was the plan, wasn't it? Why is he fighting them? This anger hangs on up to the point where Asriel returns to the underground and proceeds to die. While Chara feels grief and regret at causing their brother to die, they also feel such anger at him for resisting them and causing the both of them to disappear. Had they lived, it would be a passing thing, like a fight with your sibling. But since they both die, those mostly unwarranted feelings can't be resolved. Chara's soul disappears, but these hateful feelings stick around... Cut to later when Frisk falling wakes them, or rather the lingering essence of Chara, up. This essence has no real soul to control it and only old feelings fueling it - it's mostly confused by its continued existence at first. But if Frisk (or rather you) chooses to go the genocide route, the essence grows stronger into an almost undead being itself, representing all the hatred and malice Chara felt at death. Not the true Chara. Your brutality of the monsters feed into this lingering anger, making it grow stronger, until it basically has control of Frisk entirely. Since Chara's love of monsters died with them, and this isn't a being with a soul, it has no qualms with killing every thing. It just wants chaos for the sake of it. It wants entertainment and to complete the warped version of a traumatized child's goals. In the end, it is just a demon. Also, I read the comic and it is so good. Love the interpretation of Chara!

[@Dodoskangs]

Thanks. Watching this video after just completing undertale made the game so much more interesting to me. Well edited as well

[@Lordshittalot]

I love coming back to these type of videos, Brings me back to when undertale came out!

[@hearteyedracoon8605]

Omg, I know this video is already a few months old, but I remember watching your comic videos years ago. Ita crazy (in a nice way) to see you again after so long!

[@ShrubSparrow]

Wow, thank you! It's cool to see some of the people who saw my old comic found this video too, haha!

[@cookabadge]

I think chara really did love their family in the underground. I believe they had compassion and empathy but not very much. I think that they really hated humanity though and after death they lost their "soul" and all that remained was their hatred for humanity which was too strong to be erased which is how chara remains in the genocide route at all. I also think a similar thing caused asriel to be so evil as flower. Missing his soul caused him to feel nothing. He didn't have this strong hatred but he went insane with boredom and stuff which resulted in him eventually just killing someone. Just to see what'd happen then he'd reset right away. I also can't remember if it's fanon or canon that he could reset before frisk fell but I think it is so yeah

[@bruhtnt4257]

it would make more sense that. the chara we see at the end of G-run IS NOT CHARA. THIS chara says their DT wasn't their's but ours, our DT awakened it from death. they are a being made completely made of DT like flowey they have no soul, no empathy, it feeds on frisk DT to exist bc they have none of its own. so they take on the characteristic frisk does. when frisk is pacifisft, it is good. when frisk is genocide, it is corrupted by frisk'sLV and become evil..The real Chara, the one that fell, may i mention the one that made Asgore a MR DaD Guy sweater is long gone.

[@Prof.Guards13]

I have been reading and watching Undertale lore for years and played through neutral and pasifist (playing genocide currently) and never understood the Chara stuff. No vid i ever saw explained it, so i just never thought of it. But this video explains it all so well. Thank you for making this

[@user-lt8lm1vv9v]

Also I remember seeing your amazing comic all those years ago! It's still one of my favorites!

[@ShrubSparrow]

Aww, thank you!! It makes me glad to hear that people still remember my comic!

[@I-used-to-be-Ariel...]

I love all these small details in undertale! I have a Sans tatoo with a "stay determined" on my forearm! Nice video! 😊

[@tyrian522]

I think with Toby’s writing we get a lot of like, fairly good reasons to assume Chara isn’t evil- but has had a life where they have had a lot of good reasons to be nice. Chara wanting to free monsters and destroy humans aren’t mutually exclusive. Also I think the buttercup thing is a really strong argument for them being a traumatized kid. Them seeing that they’re poison and using it is really the only interpretation that makes sense to me.

[@aes2621]

Om god I loved your comics, I remember when you first posted them and I was obsessed with your art!

[@AtillaDaPun]

This was great! Really well thought out and easy to follow along! 💖

[@Ren_Ysidro]

Personally, because I never had the heart to do genocide to the monsters, I would only do pacifist, but after floweys comment I felt really bad, and so I deleted the game after one last true pacifist ending, and I made sure all the characters would stay happy because if I was in their place *I'd feel the same.* but, honestly, if chara's actions are based of the players, and I *was* a player, *chara was never evil.* But that's just me.

[@bkjamesot918]

Side note. When Asriel is in angel form, on his arms are these upside down hearts with oscillating dots. They are very similar in nature to the invisible tree in deltarune. Maybe asriel/ralsei have a "hand" in creating the dark worlds?

[@noeliad4179]

loved this ! you explained everything really well

[@zantids]

This was so great! I love the way you explain the story, your narration is wonderful. I hope you make more theory/explanation videos in the future!!! 😊

[@Delivery_Boy_Roy]

I choose to believe that Chara is not the villain, and that only YOU the Player can fill that role. I also choose to believe that Chara becomes more closed off but not sadistic over the course of and at the end of the genocide route and that Chara still has emotion. Also, the final Flowey kill at the end of genocide is not Chara , there is one last pause, a chance for the player to back out. Meaning Chara hesitated. As for Chara’s actions after genocide, there is no evidence that they killed anyone. It is likely a message to remind you (the player) of your sins. I believe that Chara being evil goes against the message of the game , which teaches you to be open minded and to expect more than meets the eye, as well as to grow as a person. In a lot of ways I think that everyone grows in the pacifist route, even Chara, who clearly helps you with their narration and helpful tips. In the genocide route, I feel that while they may help you, they feel they don’t have the power to stop you so they don’t try. I know that they are reluctant to help you because of red text, which symbolizes deep negative emotion. On a another note, when Chara is finally powerful enough, I would think that they wanted justice in a similar fashion to the buttercup plan. And by severing your connection to the game, that would serve as the justice. I feel very strongly about this because people who view Chara this way are not thinking openly. Either way, Chara is not the villain, undertale doesn’t NEED a villain. It is YOU who presses MERCY or FIGHT. And yes, I watched judgment boy’s the truth about Chara, but that is an insightful video with stock loads of evidence. Anyways, hope you see this. ;)

[@stannosaurus]

I interpreted it as you influence who Chara becomes. Through the game you basically TEACH them how to be a person, whether that's through hatred or love. You shape THEM, and it genocide you are killed by the very being you created. But your point is very interesting because you are in control until Chara is strong enough. Sadly that power she gains comes from you legit murdering their whole family and all their friends 😥 so of course they hate you.

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

Maybe you should follow your own advice and be open to others rather then dismiss an entire alternative opinion as "are not thinking openly" because that is the most close minded thing you can do. I get you have opinions, but if the game really teaches you to be open minded maybe you shouldn't dismiss others? Everything at the end of the game suggests that Chara's "good" was a facade and that they likely were not human. After all that "creepy face" we see is definitely not human. "As for Chara’s actions after genocide, there is no evidence that they killed anyone." Given at the end of Genocide the player can choose not to destroy the world but Chara will... the world humans live in and the monsters hidden in Alphy's True Lab are hidden in. "I believe that Chara being evil goes against the message of the game , which teaches you to be open minded and to expect more than meets the eye." The game starts with two siblings, Chara and Asriel, they seem to be good at the start. As things progress in the True Lab you learn the truth of Flowey's Origins and you see the tapes. The tapes where Chara is Violence to Asriel's Pacifism. From not being bothered by poisoning Asgore and nearly killing him. To their "creepy face" trick which is seen at the end of Geno bringing into question if they are a true human. To quote what Chara literally said they call themselves "The demon that comes when people call its name." If you talk to Asriel at the golden flowers after the final boss you get a lot of dialogue which only shows that you should be open minded and not take Chara at surface level even further. Chara told Asriel they hated humanity but not why. Asriel admits Chara wasn't the best person. Chara was the one who tried to kill the humans and Asriel refused. Asriel acknowledges that it would've become a war of humans versus monsters if they killed those humans. I'm pretty sure Chara being an "Demon" who ended up in the Underground and befriending the Boss Monsters to get their Soul to gain god like power in this world is more then meets the eye. That if you look at everything them intentionally tricking Asriel to poison and try to kill Asgore becomes more then meets the eye and would give Chara a monster soul. That they were going to kill humans but somehow the weaker monster soul beat the stronger "human" soul and held Chara back? That Chara hesitated in the end of Geno when killing Flowey... or did Chara stop and smile so Flowey could see? Truth about Chara video is a great example of how Manipulators like Chara succeed. They do enough "good" things that only when you look at their end choices do you realize it wasn't good. Then they push the blame onto another. After all if you refuse to kill the world Chara still blames the Player. Don't get me wrong though, it is really dumb people put the blame entirely on Chara when they kill 100s themselves. In the end of the two major routes where we see the truth we see humanly impossible things from Chara, have multiple descriptions pointing to them not being good, and attempted murder or destroyed everything.

[@Delivery_Boy_Roy]

@@Buglin_Burger7878 I'm not dismissing you though, I just really don't agree with you :/

[@grimmsoul3096]

I think chara killed sans and asgore through the player, but just remember that this is after they watched a human kill everyone they ever known and loved (IN A NORMAL WAY NOT GENOCIDE WAY DAMMIT). and anyone would be a LITTLE edgy after all that. i mean they just played along. they never forced your hand out of genocide in any canonical way. as RESETTING is canon the player could just RESET after sans just before the flowey kill and be fine

[@majamaranda6618]

After-death Chara didn't really care about their loved ones even before we kill Toriel. They think Toriel is not worth talking to, and deal an absurd amount of damage to her, meaning that Chara probably didn't like her very much. Also yes Chara can force your hand out of the genocide route. They abort the route if you kill 16 monsters but not Snowdrake.

[@yapauh]

great overall video, but i think you should've added what happened in snowgrave route, how the player controls noelle and kris against their will, and even when kris is down, noelle can still "hear" their voice, the player's voice. plus when you're with ralsei and he says why dont we sit and think about what susie is doing, in snowgrave route it doesnt happen, so theres that too

[@greatwhitnorth]

Loved this video. It explained some stuff I didn’t fully understand.

[@legofishjpeg]

amazing video!! this analysis is very important for understanding deltarune!

[@ash_is_sleepy]

very pogchamperstastic video, i will listen to it in work tomorrow 😎

[@ShrubSparrow]

Thank you Ash! :D

[@Khalith]

Great video. I’m at a loss for what Kris truly is and I’ve been desperately wanting more answers. Someone tell Toby to hurry up so we can give him money!

[@thedragonslyr1]

I wanted to make a video on this subject but I never had enough passion to get through with it. It's nice to see somebody else do it and you do a very good job

[@underbossgamingdunce7018]

God damn this cleared so much up for me. I never played the games but am interested in the lore and your break down was superb!

[@cherry-ij6wt]

here from twitter, this is good stuff👍

[@luizcentola]

Your video is very good and well made!! You deserve so much more views! You just got yourself a new subscriber

[@ShrubSparrow]

Thank you very much!

[@broccolibite5427]

this actually cleared up so much stuff i’ve been trying to figure out

[@thebucketgod9177]

This video itself was very interesting, but I also want to add that I really enjoyed the comic illustrations throughout the video. The art style is really cute to me and I feel really fits the undertale vibe and I just really like it a lot and find it charming.

[@georginagaynor7059]

Loved this video!! Your comic really helps with putting together all the pieces and helping it all make sense, while also looking amazing, hope to see more vids from you ✨

[@dustycatt]

Such a great video! The end made me realize once again how excited I am for the next chapters of deltarune to come out!

[@Virgo117]

Fascinating video! I never thought about the lore that way.

[@yoonahsego6173]

We ARE chara, we name them (mostly) after ourselves in undertale and she represents our determination to get the genocide ending as we are controlling frisk and could stop at any moment. The fandom and people in general like to point them as the villan instead of facing the consequences of feeling bad because we just killed all the people we befriended out of pure curiosity.

[@Nintendogs08]

This is really cool I love your interpretation of Chara more than any others as it just fits the narrative of Undertale! Also is it possible if you could make an analysis video for Frisk in the future?

[@ShrubSparrow]

Thanks! I'm not sure if I would be able to make a similar video of Frisk, just because there is so little we actually know of Frisk. A few things are implied, but most things concerning Frisk are still just speculation. However, I would love to do a proper video on Kris once Deltarune is fully released! I'm also thinking I'd like to do a video on the ghost cousins next, I feel like they deserve more love

[@Nintendogs08]

@@ShrubSparrow that would be cool!!

[@Suprazord]

I loved your comic when it was released. Love the video too.

[@ceasestar]

Chara : “Ok, ill return this world in exchange for your soul.” Player : *PROCEEDS TO DO THE GENOCIDE ROUTE THE 2ND TIME AND MURDER EVERYONE* Chara : “Ok, you’re just a psychopath.”