A thorough analysis of Sans

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SpokenSebe

SpokenSebe

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@a_child14
@a_child14 Жыл бұрын
I like to think that there's a timeline where Frisk/the Player just...gives up. Like Sanses special attack works, they just sit there...for all time
@highlandstorm0137
@highlandstorm0137 Жыл бұрын
Undertale mediocre ending
@firuto7970
@firuto7970 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, many players have given up to Sans. It is cannon as all possible endings are
@Unoriginal____Starwalker
@Unoriginal____Starwalker Жыл бұрын
Now I want to make a mod, where you have an "Option" to give up your determination, and the next time you die, that monster actually takes your soul. Either absorbing it themselves or passing it onto Asgore, giving the monsters "Their ending." But also having differences, like if Sans kills you, he is shocked that you don't respawn, and now has to deal with everyone he knows being dead.
@wow-roblox8370
@wow-roblox8370 Жыл бұрын
@@Unoriginal____Starwalkerand like Chara, if they absorb your soul they will have to fight constantly to maintain control and resist your influence
@distantmaniacallaughter8690
@distantmaniacallaughter8690 Жыл бұрын
*Staring at my many, many unfinished WIPs* WELP, TIME TO WRITE A NEW FANFIC
@Skidoodle18
@Skidoodle18 Жыл бұрын
I personally always loved the idea that Mettaton Neo was designed to kill humans, and the fact that you killed them in one hit implies that you’re not really human any more
@tovarasunoir
@tovarasunoir Жыл бұрын
thats so smart actually
@mariotheundying
@mariotheundying Жыл бұрын
And then you see his defence, your attack, your LOVE, the fact that the more intent to oof a person has the more they do dmg and like, idk its a fun idea but is it really true? (That it was a reference to not being human)
@tovarasunoir
@tovarasunoir Жыл бұрын
@@mariotheundying i mean technically, gaining LOVE, having higher attack, and the intent to kill people is clearer and easier to perform, would mean that youre slowly losing your humanity so in a way it still works? (also lovely username)
@mariotheundying
@mariotheundying Жыл бұрын
@@tovarasunoir oh yeah that makes sense, idk why I didn't think of that (thank you, this was like my 2nd username after 3 months of this account existing, and yes my 1st username was undyne the undying, and now the @ change in KZbin made me want to keep this, even tho I found it cringe before)
@MarloTheBlueberry
@MarloTheBlueberry Жыл бұрын
mario
@Withersage
@Withersage Жыл бұрын
My headcanon with the sans non-attack is that there’s a single bone offscreen somewhere
@KC_Garcia
@KC_Garcia Жыл бұрын
Nah, the bone is on screen, it's just reeeeeaaaaalllllly small.
@Kyumifun
@Kyumifun Жыл бұрын
​@@KC_Garcia like that one froggit/monster in a wall crack in ruins waving at us?
@another-niko-pfp-holder
@another-niko-pfp-holder Жыл бұрын
@@KC_Garciain the bullet board border thats why we cant see it
@crobisbobis
@crobisbobis Жыл бұрын
Completely missing the point:
@GlytchGames
@GlytchGames 11 ай бұрын
@@crobisbobisnot really, wether freezing time for you and chara freezes the battle we aren’t sure, but the idea of a single bone being off screen would be sans dodging the inevitable through meta awareness of the player’s battle screen
@Diastima_the_archangel
@Diastima_the_archangel Жыл бұрын
"sans is the only monster capable of trapping you in a non-attack" *distant mad dummy noises*
@exar4444
@exar4444 8 ай бұрын
Only? Only!? ONLY!?!
@itsniqilisitsme4701
@itsniqilisitsme4701 8 ай бұрын
she's just like THE FUCK DO YOU mean THE ONLY LONE
@Xman34washere
@Xman34washere 7 ай бұрын
_trans girl approaching_
@wrigthtalekenavi2066
@wrigthtalekenavi2066 4 ай бұрын
WRONG!!!!! Mad Dummy doesnt use a non-attack. in their case, Mad dummy has no way to attack Frisk, and Frisk has no way to pacify/defeat mad dummy. he didnt trap you into a non-attack, he trapped you into a battle screen.
@casafurniture1212
@casafurniture1212 3 ай бұрын
​@wrigthtalekenavi2066 isn't that basically the same thing it's not like he's attacking and it's not like you get a chance to try to do anything if it was truly what you explained then you'd go back to the battle options amd keep slicing him but it wouldn't work
@bluevern904
@bluevern904 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to mention that the human outspeeding every monster isn't entirely true, there are a bunch of cases in which monsters perform actions before you get the chance to do anything: Sans' first attack, Undyne turning your soul green (and technically, the chase sequences), Asgore smasing the MERCY button, both times you're in a battle with Flowey (The "tutorial" and the battle with Photoshop Flowey). All those times the monsters get to attack, or at least, do something before you can
@spartacusthememelord6890
@spartacusthememelord6890 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't muffet also turn you purple before you can even male your first move as well?
@HumanoidDerpling
@HumanoidDerpling Жыл бұрын
@@spartacusthememelord6890 Nope, she uses her first turn to do so.
@MareMayo56
@MareMayo56 7 ай бұрын
sans is the only one to actually get the first turn in a regular fight. in the examples you gave none of them actually *attack* before you, or its not a traditional encounter (omega flowey, tutorial flowey). sans is the only enemy to take a proper turn first.
@bluevern904
@bluevern904 7 ай бұрын
I think it still counts. I’m talking about actions, not attacks per se. If Ninjask used Swords Dance, it still performed an action before you did even when they didn’t use an attack
@calciumis
@calciumis Жыл бұрын
I can't believe that I was obsessed, and I mean OBSESSED, with undertale since its release and I have just NOW realised that Sans is LITERALLY a judge. Like, he isn't just JUDGING you, his speciality is LITERALLY that. Creating karma points, his attacks expanding karma by sin, knowing your sins as well... like, oh my gosh, how have I not realised?
@sumgamesonmyphone9203
@sumgamesonmyphone9203 2 ай бұрын
Also you go through "that one hall" when he gives you his _judgement_ . It always resembles a... Courtroom?
@supremeoverlorde2109
@supremeoverlorde2109 Жыл бұрын
Okay, this is a really interesting analysis of Sans. I know the Undertale fandom has been over-saturated with this character over the years and many would now label him overrated, but I still think he's one of the most fascinating characters in the game and your analysis even covered some points I hadn't considered before. I really liked in particular how you brought up the significance of Sans choosing not to act against you until the end of a no mercy run. Often this seems to get dismissed as Sans simply not caring or being selfish. But given what Sans knows and what his function in the game is, I think it kind of makes sense. Undertale is a game that calls you out for making cruel decisions but will ultimately forgive you for even the worst atrocities, save killing everyone in the entire Underground. As a result, it wouldn't make sense for the Judge of all people to seek vengeance against the player. His purpose is not to punish you in anger, but rather make you think about your choice and continually encourage you to do the right thing. And in a lot of ways I think that's what the final fight with him is about. He's giving you one last chance to finally put down your weapon and fix your mistakes, before it truly IS too late. In the Pacifist Run, Toriel expresses her loathing for Asgore but admits that despite his murdering all those children, he deserves mercy just as much as anyone else. And it's the same with the player. Sans shows you mercy, no matter how bad you are, unless you are inches from passing the point of no return. And it does seem to suggest that he may not be as nihilistic as people think --- that perhaps his inaction against you is not apathy, but part of his own guiding principle. I guess one could also make the argument that he spares you as part of the promise he made to Toriel though. I've always found his iconic line, "You'd be dead where you stand," a little confusing, because it's something he tells you in a pacifist run. And I've never been able to decide whether I think he was just being a jerk to try to scare you, or if he seriously would have killed you if he wasn't doing Toriel a favor. It does leaving me thinking that he doesn't particularly like or trust you regardless of the route you take, though.
@Existentialism8820
@Existentialism8820 Жыл бұрын
That's a lot of words
@jimmcknight13
@jimmcknight13 Жыл бұрын
I agree@@Existentialism8820
@charismaticRogue
@charismaticRogue Жыл бұрын
@@Existentialism8820 sounds like a u problem
@MrDiana1706
@MrDiana1706 Жыл бұрын
Considering his dialogue is unchanged from the other routes on the dinner with him, I'd Say it either 1.-Varies the fact it's a joke or not, from route to route. 2.-He'd try to murder You not out of selfishness but out of the idea of Beings with Determinación being deal breakers for his world, just as Flowey proved him. After all, we don't know how these characters acted towards the other 6 humans before
@FloofMother
@FloofMother Жыл бұрын
Sans has vague knowledge of each timeline, so he probably implicitly distrusts you on instinct because other players have gone no mercy before
@Wario_B
@Wario_B Жыл бұрын
He reminds me of my late grandfather in a lot of ways. He was a short guy, never really talked about his personal life and was really hard to get to know, made some funny jokes here and there, and was much smarter than he looked(he could speak 4 languages and probably had multiple degrees). I guess that and Sans’ overall goofiness and relatability made me really like him over the years.
@YOURWORLDSAFANTASY
@YOURWORLDSAFANTASY Жыл бұрын
sans is a perfect character, chill guy to hang out with. Your grandfather sounds like a very interesting individual.
@ireallycantthinkofaname4726
@ireallycantthinkofaname4726 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@and______
@and______ Жыл бұрын
i killed him
@cookiecannibal0
@cookiecannibal0 Жыл бұрын
Your grandfather is sans
@mothlight9661
@mothlight9661 Жыл бұрын
​@@and______dude wtf
@GrosslyInhabited
@GrosslyInhabited Жыл бұрын
I hate it when people say he’s unserious or too serious. Also I hate it so much when people say he doesn’t care when papyrus is killed. If you do a Neutral ending and kill papyrus, he’ll express his anger to you after a yes or no question. “If you have some power, shouldn’t you use it to do good?” If you say no, he’ll call you a dirty brother killer. If you say yes, he’ll ask you why you killed his brother. He does care, but he knows it’s pointless to do anything about it. UGHHHHSBKSJEKEEKE
@CojaGamez
@CojaGamez 7 ай бұрын
Its actually super interesting. Sans is deeply nihilistic due to him knowing anything he does is pointless because of resets. But despite that, he still cares deeply about his brother even though he know his death will be undone. Papyrus is the one thing sans still has the will to care about and that speaks volumes about their relationship imo
@jrny76
@jrny76 6 ай бұрын
Also I'm pretty sure in one of the neutral endings where you kill most of the monsters he's says "this is what happens when people like me take it easy."
@Azal423
@Azal423 6 ай бұрын
Sans: “…” “Go to hell”
@naganut9718
@naganut9718 5 ай бұрын
It is, it's that sometimes people makes him overly emotional guy like him wearing Pap's scarf and crying too much
@CojaGamez
@CojaGamez 5 ай бұрын
@@naganut9718 To be fair, I imagine sans would cry over papyrus in private. Against the player tho, its his job to be steadfast and firm
@That1svini
@That1svini Жыл бұрын
For the Sans non-attack I don’t think it really proves that he’s more able than other monsters, just that he’s more knowledgeable. Of course the other monsters wouldn’t keep you in a single attack for the rest of time because, as far as they know, if they kill you, you stay dead. Sans, on the other hand, knows you will keep coming back each time you die. He knows that killing you is worthless or even beneficial to you, so instead he just keeps you in limbo.
@mishagaming1075
@mishagaming1075 11 ай бұрын
Love that you implied other monsters CAN do that, but just won't, because that's what the mad dummy tried to do (and failed because of napstablook)
@christianottley8542
@christianottley8542 8 ай бұрын
yeah other monsters like mad dummy can do that but one, theyd have to stand their for all eternity which isn't very appealing and two they think killing the player is enough to end the battle.
@lukaza1261
@lukaza1261 Жыл бұрын
one notable detail i think you left out, about sans being the only one to keep the player locked in an attack that doesnt actually do anything, is the end of Mad dummies battle. they actually did the *exact* same thing. the only reason that failed, was because Napstablook came in
@krowpan799
@krowpan799 Жыл бұрын
really makes you think if the rpg mechanics of it all will be further explored in deltarune if basically everyone is familiar that this is how fighting works lol
@floralQuaFloral
@floralQuaFloral 10 ай бұрын
I don't think that's necessarily what the Mad Dummy was saying she was going to do, though. Throughout the fight she was talking about how the human had no way of hurting her as a ghost, and getting rid of all her attacks until she had none left to use. I think the idea she was expressing with "You can't hurt me and I can't hurt you" was that she and the human would just exchange turns during which neither would ever be able to hurt the other. Especially since she phrased it as "You'll be stuck fighting me FOREVER", which sounds much more active than what Sans tried, and also makes no mention of turns. And she has no reason whatsoever to try and stop the human from taking their turn, anyways.
@cringelord7776
@cringelord7776 10 ай бұрын
@@floralQuaFloral by the way mad dummy is gender neutral, only becoming a girl when they became mad mew mew
@floralQuaFloral
@floralQuaFloral 10 ай бұрын
@@cringelord7776 I would describe that as being kinda subjective, IMO. The ghosts are a pretty straightforward trans allegory, so Mad Mew Mew adopting a feminine presentation upon possessing the Mew Mew doll can be interpreted as self-discovery rather than the character's gender actually changing. Her arc is very similar to that of Mettaton, a character who is pretty commonly thought of as having been a guy even before Alphys constructed his robotic body; the biggest difference between them is just that Mad Mew Mew didn't seem to be aware of the kind of body she wanted until the moment she found it, and that her acquisition of her dream body occurs during the events of the game rather than at some point before it. So I think the Mad Dummy being a girl before acquiring the Mew Mew doll is a pretty coherent interpretation of the character's arc, personally.
@Airwrink
@Airwrink Жыл бұрын
Flowey has definitely beat sans at least once, it just took a lot of attempts. He quite literally says he killed EVERYONE in the genocide run. Good video though!
@TheRealBaylock
@TheRealBaylock Жыл бұрын
Could have potentially been a lie. i wouldn't put it past Flowey. just an observation though.
@ApriiSR
@ApriiSR Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealBaylock I don't think it has to be a lie, necessarily-I think he's maybe just not being entirely precise with his wording.
@GoldenWreck
@GoldenWreck Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealBaylock Nah he definitely did beat sans. If you keep going back to replay the ending after defeating Flowey in his omega form, he will eventually mention how sans "cost him more than his fair share of resets," meaning that although he was a pain to kill, Flowey eventually succeeded.
@TheRealBaylock
@TheRealBaylock Жыл бұрын
ehhhhhh this is still somewhat anecdotal, not exactly smoke and guns. @@GoldenWreck
@randompromises1038
@randompromises1038 Жыл бұрын
​@@GoldenWreckthat had to have been one hell of a fight though
@notaclam9188
@notaclam9188 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that Sans did have some amount of soul power. For example, when Sans uses his telekinetic powers, his eye flashes blue and yellow. However, the shades of these colors are the same as patience and justice. I think that Sans may have generated these powers through his own will power at some point, much like undyne did with determination. These two souls also largely reflect sans' personality, his patience being his laidback nature, and his justice being him within the judgement hall. These souls would also give him his slight time manipulation powers as mentioned in the video.
@shockmaster0792
@shockmaster0792 6 ай бұрын
Its possible, undyne was able to generate determination, who is to say its not possible for another monster to have the power to generate other soul powers.
@megawl2086
@megawl2086 Жыл бұрын
So actual Sans is not some edgy guy who is too depressed to do anything because "genocide will appear anyways", as many chalk him out to be He's actually just lazy and laid back but incredibly smart, actually very powerful and has an very-very high chance to have not only space manipulating powers, but also time control as well, also he uses less puns than Papyrus, Sans uses really cheesy ones just to piss of his brother and prefers pranks and practical jokes. Also Sans is a great at manipulating people mentally.
@bubblelovessans
@bubblelovessans Жыл бұрын
agreed although in my opinion sans was sort of depressed at one point when he found out about resets and stuff but after the true pacifist route and if you do not reset he gains hope in you again although i also do think that his laziness is a part of his personality
@F3lipe-u8x
@F3lipe-u8x Жыл бұрын
@@bubblelovessans I don't think he's depressed because of the resets but because of the original place he came from
@mr.mcklockwork3828
@mr.mcklockwork3828 Жыл бұрын
​@@F3lipe-u8xim pretty sure he isnt depressed at all. He's just sorta Apathetic about most things, as smart people tend to be. And lazy.
@F3lipe-u8x
@F3lipe-u8x Жыл бұрын
@@mr.mcklockwork3828 He kind of missed the place and gave up I don't think he's still happy
@bubblelovessans
@bubblelovessans Жыл бұрын
@@F3lipe-u8x what was the original place he came from? i thought he was just a monster in the underground
@NimbusQuill
@NimbusQuill Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your video! With a character like Sans who’s been stretched and morphed through the eyes of the fandom with alternate variations and interpretations it’s incredibly refreshing to see someone bring the frame back to who the character from the original source. I adored your dive into quantum mechanics and how Sans’ magic and understanding effects his character. I’m a fanfic author but I strive to have source accurate characters but in a fandom as vast as Undertale it’s difficult to find good Characters analysis without it being diluted by fannon. So I’ll absolutely be using your video to recenter my view when I need to. Honestly the whole video was some pretty stellar work as a first video and it truly deserves more likes then what it got. I hadn’t payed much attention to the visual since I was listening to this whole doing paperwork, but your script and delivery was captivating and you have a very easy voice to listen to with noticeable energy and passion towards the topic. Even though it’s been a year since it’s original upload I hope you’re doing well and consider doing more videos! But if that’s an interest you’ve fallen out no problem! I’m still incredibly grateful for this one!
@Kyumifun
@Kyumifun Жыл бұрын
*fanon *paid Sorry
@anakinskywalker9848
@anakinskywalker9848 Жыл бұрын
the mad dummy says hes just gonna trap you by not doing anything. but then napstablook chases him away
@blakestation2632
@blakestation2632 Жыл бұрын
Great video and I know I'm very late but your point about sans "bleeding" ketchup not blood is entirely wrong, monster food turns into magic as soon as it enters a monsters mouth (source: one of the books from the library in snowden), we see sans bleed out of his mouth this means 1 of 2 things 1: it's blood he has for an unexplained reason. 2: it's human ketchup made from real tomatoes and other ingredients, In this case why and how would sans have it.
@glareninja
@glareninja Жыл бұрын
How does alphys have anime? It’s from the surface we actually KNOW that at waterfall some stuff from the surface ends up their. Second of all he’s sans he can defy logic
@Kyumifun
@Kyumifun Жыл бұрын
​@@glareninja Well, then it'd mean tomato seeds fell into the underground somehow and monsters had a way to properly grow them somehow. (Despite the underground being litterally an underground, there's still light in there and it's both raining and snowing in some places.) Sans is a monster, not a very litteral human skeleton. He's skeleton-like, but still has functions similar to Toriel (a furry), the ghosts, or that goop janitor. Honestly, knowing this, both ideas might be plausible. He might as well bleed or not.
@somethingforsenro
@somethingforsenro Жыл бұрын
@@Kyumifun or it could just mean that someone keeps dropping their bottles of ketchup. or that sans keeps a bottle of ketchup in his pocket, although that doesn't explain the bleeding from the mouth thing i'm imagining, like, a heinz truck crashing on mt ebott and the entire supply of ketchup bottles plummeting into the underground. it seems unlikely, but it's also the exact sort of absurdity that already surrounds the skelebros, so who knows?
@BB_6w6
@BB_6w6 Жыл бұрын
i mean sans has toilet paper and car magazines so i wouldn’t be surprised if he had surface ketchup
@robertwyatt3912
@robertwyatt3912 Жыл бұрын
It’s human ketchup
@t.k.5088
@t.k.5088 Жыл бұрын
Your video got me thinking... By the time we reach Photoshop Flowey, that's his first time facing us. He did, however, face the "smiley trashbag" enough times to dislike him. Photoshop Flowey seems to be overpowered enough to fight Sans. Sans can teleport? No problem, Flowey can track someone's presence and shoot projectiles in every direction at incredible speeds. Space-time manipulation? Karma points? None of these are a problem if Flowey masters the save/load mechanics, which he claims to have done until Frisk falls into the underground. When Flowey assumes that form, it means he's gotten a hold of the other human souls, which shouldn't necessarily be impossible without the presence of the 7th fallen human. Tl;dr: Wouldn't it be crazy if Flowey's strongest form (not Asriel) happened to be actually something he develop to fight someone who's hard to beat even for the overpowered human who could destroy their entire existence?
@stm7810
@stm7810 Жыл бұрын
There's a great animation for that, I love to think that whilst Sans never faced photoshop Flowey, he had always beat regular Flowey with his 6000HP 19 atk etc. that and that some of the defeats were non combat agreeing to alternate things like chess, cards or rap battles.
@ikowski2947
@ikowski2947 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful analysis. It's very well made, i can even say one of the better ones. Do you have plans for more videos like this ? Maybe something about Asgore and Dreemurr family or something Deltarune related.
@spokensebe542
@spokensebe542 2 жыл бұрын
Though I may make a shorter video on Mettaton , I'm waiting long term to make anything on deltarune. I really like DR, though I want to wait until it is complete, as there is already an immense amount of substance to it, and 5 whole chapters to be released
@WeirdguyKruckly
@WeirdguyKruckly Жыл бұрын
I also think that Papyrus also has knowledge about Frisk's power just like Sans. He's even able to defeat you without actually killing you just leaving you at 1 hp. And there are so mug stuff that proves Papyrus has the same knowledge and Strengths as Sans, Maybe even stronger
@mr.mcklockwork3828
@mr.mcklockwork3828 Жыл бұрын
Seems implied he does. He just acts naive to keep his optimism intact.
@Harbo_Minecraft_two
@Harbo_Minecraft_two 4 ай бұрын
also the flowey vine theory in the natural ending.
@Seavixenn848
@Seavixenn848 Жыл бұрын
Woah. I thought that this was just a regular video made by someone with 100k+ subs. Amazing start to a youtube channel, goodluck! Also, the fact that sans is aware of the battle system similar to asgore is a crazy power parallel. The fact that sans possesses powers that even the king of monsters (i am aware that he holds back) cannot match is crazy.
@Seavixenn848
@Seavixenn848 Жыл бұрын
Oh, and you forgot to mention his ties with gaster (or not, after all that's a whole different video) the fact that he has gaster blasters can have huge implications on his role as a royal scientist. his abilities to ignore s proves that he has even deeper knowledge of the battle system
@tariqdotpng546
@tariqdotpng546 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! I hope you end up making more like this even thought you haven’t uploaded in 8 months
@spokensebe542
@spokensebe542 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Been recently working on a new video. Not as much an analysis, but a comprehensive showcase of some quite powerful abilities of many Yu Yu Hakusho characters
@jennasmith196
@jennasmith196 Жыл бұрын
I don't typically leave comments but that little end bit was really sweet and I hope you're also doing well! Also I never would have guessed this was your first video, it was excellent!!
@thecommentato4
@thecommentato4 Жыл бұрын
Something quick, mad dummy WAS gonna keep the player trapped in the battle box in pacifist but napstablook came in 21:14
@SansINess53
@SansINess53 Жыл бұрын
Sans in my opinion can have 3 interpretations the first that he knows about reset and the second that he doesn't know about resets and the third one he doesn't know about resets but finally realizes it just before you arrive.
@auginetic
@auginetic Жыл бұрын
So the only 3 options?
@Zipxa_Raya142
@Zipxa_Raya142 6 ай бұрын
I'm thinking, he knows that resets exist but cant remember them.
@JBoxy7
@JBoxy7 3 ай бұрын
I think he knows about it but only because hes extremely knowledgable and is extremely observant. when you fight him he judges how many times youve died by the look on your face, not because he can sense it.
@cemafer
@cemafer 2 жыл бұрын
Great, great video! You’re so underrated! Keep up the good work ;)
@scythe4life77
@scythe4life77 10 ай бұрын
This video taught me so many things and gave me even more info on my already existing outlook on sans
@SleepiPotionsXD
@SleepiPotionsXD Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. I do not belive chara is evil tho. They is an impressionable kid. The reason they destroys the world is because thats what you were doing. They didnt have this massive evil plan. This is my personal opinion. Just my theory. I do not belive there was actul confirmation.
@oatmealraizin
@oatmealraizin Жыл бұрын
Chara being evil would kind of ruin a lot of the story for me. You choose to kill all those monsters, not Chara. They only kill monsters during the sans fight at the end and the asgore fight.
@agent2967
@agent2967 Жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure Chara still wanted to (at the very least) beat the shit out of humanity, but I suppose you could excuse that as a sympathetic but flawed goal. This is especially apparent with theories as to why or how Chara fell into the Underground.
@SleepiPotionsXD
@SleepiPotionsXD Жыл бұрын
@@agent2967 well yeah that makes sense
@fruitloops2058
@fruitloops2058 Жыл бұрын
​@@agent2967Yea
@stm7810
@stm7810 Жыл бұрын
If Chara wanted to kill monsters they would've done that when alive, instead they ended their own life to try and help monsters, I think they would love to kill humans because humans suck, but they'd do anything for monsters. Also Frisk is the 1 human they can grow to like and help on pacifist with the memory because Frisk shows how pacafistic and good they can be.
@abrago7880
@abrago7880 Жыл бұрын
This is a very underrated analysis, crime to see that it is underappreciated
@YOURWORLDSAFANTASY
@YOURWORLDSAFANTASY Жыл бұрын
I really hate when people just overlook him because of the memes, which is quite ironiv since i think it was made on purpose. He is, something that looks one thing but is another breaking every expectation. People felt for it and now think he is just the "funneh skele-TON XDDDDXDDDXDDDXXXD"
@moderatearsonist1689
@moderatearsonist1689 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man, deserves way more attention for your more unique analysis of Sans
@EditUnivers75
@EditUnivers75 Жыл бұрын
Watched the whole video (WITH SNACK) and was honestly shocked to hear it was your first ever video. I saw it was from a year ago so subscribed and went to your channel, to find that this is your ONLY video. I don’t know what kind of videos you’re interested in making or if you even want to continue this channel, but I’ll be here! Waiting and hoping to see one of your videos pop up in my sub box. Hope to see more, good stuff. Nice chill commentary, well researched, and really good case made for sans using teleportation/timestop in battle.
@jinxyjangle
@jinxyjangle 11 ай бұрын
“Non can simply trap the player” You’re forgetting that Mad Dummy does this too
@alexthebluehermit
@alexthebluehermit 9 ай бұрын
This was really good! I hope you make another video!
@bummedmachinist7483
@bummedmachinist7483 Жыл бұрын
I think this analysis suffers because it refuses to analyze undertale as a game and meta commentary. These characters didn't just fall out of the sky. Toby's characters were also inspired by the thematic or symbolic points he wanted to make. So we have to be wary from readying things from a strictly narrative standpoint. I'm not the one to be able to make this analysis. I just know that sans, flowey, and chara are not traditional narrative characters and were primarily intended to invoke a connection directly with the player. To break the narrative illusion between your character's actions and your own. Sans fights the one that can reset the world, you. He attacks you in the menu because this is the game breaking the separation between anything the player does and the character does. You cant retreat to the place the game has designed specifically for the player. Because Sans knows about the code of the game (quantum physics) he can cheat. Undertale can't be understood if we try to divorce its characters from the fact that they are in a game, specifically an RPG. Sans is made of two aspects that override each other at different times. He is a narrative character, and he is a meta analysis of how game mechanics connect to the narrative. So is flowey. Chara or *input your name here* has three aspects all in contradiction. They can be a narrative based character. They are a self insert for the player, and finally they are a meta stand-in for the person the player becomes when following RPG mechanics. It's a symbol that fills all of these roles at once though is primarily in the spot light over the other at any given time in the story. This is why Undertale confuses people. Aspects in aspects in aspects. It is a game, it is a story. Characters are sprites/text and characters are code.
@thorlesko5105
@thorlesko5105 6 ай бұрын
3:40 it’s a good theory but 1. The color is literally the default red in mspaint so it could be an oversight. And 2. Monster food is said to “just convert to pure energy” so it doesn’t digest and just disappears. Which means he can’t eat it and have it pour out when he’s stabbed
@ilexdiapason
@ilexdiapason 3 ай бұрын
is ketchup a food?
@Woody_is_gaming
@Woody_is_gaming 2 ай бұрын
Listening to u talk is like listening to my friend when we were in 4th grade, he kept saying that undertaker can resurrect from the dead and he is the only one who knows how to stop him
@mnwary
@mnwary Жыл бұрын
i should say that thank you for getting into quantum physics topic this much. i like sans because he has a deep character with the aspect of phsyics and philosophy, it was really interesting to hear an analysis that mostly goes through this and i appreciate it
@stardewnoodles
@stardewnoodles 24 күн бұрын
I just got back into undertale, and didn’t want to ruin Sans if I ever wrote him, so I looked for videos like this and have come out of it with knowledge I didn’t even know was ever there in the first place, which I’m grateful for. If you ever come back from busy, I’d love to see more from you, I think I’d love your content
@torterratortellini6641
@torterratortellini6641 2 ай бұрын
I think that Chara was meant to be to us what we were to Flowey. Flowey was a megalomaniac who thought that he was above consequences only for him to humbled and eventually be killed by the stronger, more determined, more evil being that was us. Meanwhile, we was a megalomaniacs who thought we were above consequences only for us to be humbled and eventually killed by Chara.
@SciRuler
@SciRuler 2 ай бұрын
Hold up, wait a minute. You might be cooking
@sub-stick5767
@sub-stick5767 6 ай бұрын
30:26 Dude, your first vídeo is just incredible! You made a fantastic work!
@darker8484
@darker8484 Жыл бұрын
20:16 i don't know if someone said it before, but this is exactly what the mad dummy was planning on doing before getting attacked by the ghost tears of napstablook... so, yeah
@uhhcallmejefe
@uhhcallmejefe Жыл бұрын
Bro dropped one amazing video and never came back
@arielgalles2107
@arielgalles2107 2 ай бұрын
It's weird how people ignore that sans hangs out with the player so much in routes where you don't kill Papyrus because he hoped that the anomaly might've just needed some joy in their life to stop destroying time space.
@Silliesat
@Silliesat Жыл бұрын
This deserves more views
@rainToodraw
@rainToodraw Жыл бұрын
This was one year ago- its amazing !!! Please make more!!!!
@TheRealBaylock
@TheRealBaylock Жыл бұрын
this was an objectively great observation that made me think. Hard to find that on KZbin now a days.
@timflaccid5277
@timflaccid5277 Жыл бұрын
Love how this person drops one video, that goes hard btw, and just disappears into the ether, I’m here if they come back for more tho
@bredslayer7094
@bredslayer7094 5 ай бұрын
One common misconception about Sans and his meta awareness is that he is a monster and doesn't have determination, he doesn't have a save file. Sans is just very smart and aware due to his background as a scientist with Gaster and Alphys and all of hid encounters with Flowly. He can read peoples thoughts through their body language. Sans does not have powers to alter the timeline, is just VERY aware of someone else doing it. Also I believe you're wrong about alternate timelines but I'm not entirely sure. I believe in Undertale and Deltarune, there isn't alternate timelines, but alternate universes. There is one timeline per universe and when you save you aren't making a new timeline or changing universes, you are simply going backwards in the timeline. Like I said I am not entirely sure but I believe that is the case in these games
@bladonski
@bladonski Жыл бұрын
Dude you made a single video that did super well, said it was bad at the end, then just peaced out. What a power play lol
@onar_
@onar_ Жыл бұрын
This man dropped a banger then disappeared….I’m calling it now. He will return by the end of this year.
@ugonnacryguy9571
@ugonnacryguy9571 Жыл бұрын
really impressive how this is their first video, this felt pretty clean
@dna_and_dan_komasansy
@dna_and_dan_komasansy 9 ай бұрын
Makes Banger Video Doesnt Elaborate Leaves What a chad XD
@ireallycantthinkofaname4726
@ireallycantthinkofaname4726 Жыл бұрын
Nice, I pray for your sucess as a youtuber with this being your firstvideo
@sageanimations2463
@sageanimations2463 Жыл бұрын
I don't think flowey never won against sans. He only said he hated him for killing him so many times. He's petty and I mean come on, if you died many times wouldn't you get petty too? Flowey also has determination although weaker than the player, he probably kept going, kept dying multiple multiple times until he got past sans.
@Silverrain84fly
@Silverrain84fly Жыл бұрын
this is probably the best analysis of sans out there, thank you for this vid
@stm7810
@stm7810 Жыл бұрын
Sans stole the pause button, like it's notable that using the menu doesn't pause the game, he could probably attack weaker souls in pause like other monsters, non Undertale humans, and most likely beat flowey this way since without a soul Flowey would count as an object that can be damaged.
@giantmutantbug
@giantmutantbug 11 ай бұрын
this is a pretty damn good first video
@charlieb6831
@charlieb6831 Жыл бұрын
This is your first video? One of the better Undertale analysis videos ive seen. good work dude
@hamburgerstake4713
@hamburgerstake4713 11 ай бұрын
Dog imma be honest, the last half felt like a delusional ramble and I had no idea what you were saying. I love this video, 100/10.
@commenteroftruth9790
@commenteroftruth9790 Жыл бұрын
dang this was your first video? this is good stuff. i liked this a lot.
@eazy_eren
@eazy_eren Жыл бұрын
this is a very high quality video
@theentity975
@theentity975 11 ай бұрын
3:46 I know this is silly but Sans' blood can't be ketchup because it's explained by an NPC at Grillby's that monster food is different from human food. It's made of magic so it instantly heals you and doesn't get digested in the traditional sense. Sans couldn't bleed ketchup because that ketchup would have been instantly converted into healing magic. He's bleeding.
@TippedScale
@TippedScale 11 ай бұрын
why would the ketchup come out of his mouth too? it doesn't look like he drank it recently before fighting the player
@evagand
@evagand Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent character analysis and a well done video! I honestly couldn’t even tell it was your first video. I really appreciate how genuine you were during your outro, I look forward to watching any videos you make in the future ❤
@gorillabean5029
@gorillabean5029 Жыл бұрын
I can te you put a lot of effort and care into your videos, this is a very professional video and I'm surprised this is your first one. You actually do a better job at pointing out stuff that some other more experienced KZbinrs often overlook. Overall, this was a very enjoyable and informational experience for me. I'm proud of you and I know your next videos will be great, have a good day spokensebe542. I'll be looking forward to your future videos.
@Lazarus_1.0
@Lazarus_1.0 2 ай бұрын
Yay, your a cool KZbinr who really explained sans good. Can’t wait for the Cara video! …oh.
@end3594
@end3594 Жыл бұрын
Wait this is ur first video/only video Bro this is masterfully crafted, great work my god
@halleyalex7544
@halleyalex7544 Жыл бұрын
To think that this is your first video... That's insane! This video is so well made, I would've thought that you were a 100k~ youtuber with months if not years of experience!
@froggers3384
@froggers3384 Жыл бұрын
Wow!! For their first video, this was very impressive!! I'd hope to see more from them soon! Very well done!
@CursioNeptune
@CursioNeptune Жыл бұрын
For a first video, this is really good! I eat analysis videos like this up, so I will probably be returning again : ) Also agree on Sans being super misunderstood and not quote lining up with nihilism.
@ДимаЖильцов-т3т
@ДимаЖильцов-т3т Жыл бұрын
KZbin recommendation moment. 1 year late, as allways. This is really enjoyable video. And this analysis showed and told me alot about Sans and Undertale i didn't know about, despite watching Undertale content for long time. Hope you doing great. Wish you good luck and ketchup bottle of inspiration.
@Avitarzims
@Avitarzims Жыл бұрын
you killed it, hope you make more!!! Thank you for the gr8 vid m8
@Ponchos609
@Ponchos609 Жыл бұрын
Mega awesome vid ur super underrated I'll give my all to support u❤
@tuna-p
@tuna-p 9 ай бұрын
bro showed up and disappeared
@uncroppedsoop
@uncroppedsoop Жыл бұрын
the only nitpick I can even really think of here is that the Mad Dummy attempts to do the same thing as Sans' special attack but is stopped by Napstablook's tears I'm actually excited to have a look at the Chara analysis. it gets tiring being swept up in KZbin arguments full of people who somehow feel their interpretation of Chara as a neutral or even sympathetic character is uncommon when it's practically all I see, and seeing the thoughts of someone else who stands on the side of Chara being malicious as a character will be, as one might say, very, very interesting
@stm7810
@stm7810 Жыл бұрын
actually the dummy just doesn't think of fleeing being an option, it's that as a ghost humans can't deal damage to them.
@AmbrosiaMooshine
@AmbrosiaMooshine 5 ай бұрын
This is an amazing video I loved it :)
@LowProfile0247
@LowProfile0247 Жыл бұрын
20:17 Literally Mad Dummy without Napstablook.
@icegreenpath
@icegreenpath Жыл бұрын
If this was your first video I'm really impressed. Good for you 👍
@alexking7262
@alexking7262 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know why people say first videos are usually bad. This is absolutely fantastic as a first video SpokenSebe. To a degree or does set a president for your channel. Anyways, can’t wait for your future videos I sub!
@3DFella
@3DFella Жыл бұрын
23:06 just wanna add something on here, but even though it is technically a different timeline, according to flowey at the end of a pacifist run, resetting will “rip everyone from this timeline, and send them back before any of this happened” so while it is a different timeline, it’s still the same characters, if that makes sense
@sleeplessreader
@sleeplessreader Жыл бұрын
What do you MEAAAN this was your FIRST video?? Also I love the Megalovania theory so much it’s just makes sense to me
@capitalistslayer3657
@capitalistslayer3657 11 ай бұрын
first ever undertale analysis that doesn't make ears bleed from the voice
@Unoriginal____Starwalker
@Unoriginal____Starwalker Жыл бұрын
Hey, where'd you go?? This video is amazing, you really should make more!
@ikmkr
@ikmkr Жыл бұрын
okay one thing about the “ketchup” thing; monster food is absorbed by the body the instant it is eaten. his “blood” can’t be ketchup, solely by that metric. also, if he was going to be spilling ketchup now, he’d spill it before, when he was drinking it. as to what it is, i immensely doubt that it’s determination, but it cannot be ketchup.
@ikmkr
@ikmkr Жыл бұрын
also the game is NEVER actually from the lens of frisk. the mirror dialogue “it’s you!/despite everything, it’s still you./still just you, frisk./it’s me, chara.” is a major hint to that. the narrator is not frisk, and not you.
@meepmeeper8423
@meepmeeper8423 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the use of the core genocide theme. Perfectly capsules the feeling of, "were nearing the end". Really shows how unstoppable you are
@Lavenderflowergacha
@Lavenderflowergacha 10 ай бұрын
I actually licked soap when watching this…..
@Shrooblord
@Shrooblord Жыл бұрын
You mentioned maybe doing a Chara analysis at some point, and that you think most people misinterpret them. I'd be super interested in that! Whenever you feel like it... ;)
@flamango4660
@flamango4660 Жыл бұрын
Took me too long to realize this was about power scaling lol
@IkerTG
@IkerTG Жыл бұрын
The mad dummy being completly ignored about using the not doing anything strat like sans: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?
@StoryTeller796
@StoryTeller796 Жыл бұрын
Sans and Undyne: Give the player an about even fight (Because Toby wanted his games to be playable by just about anybody and even had them playtested.) Me when I make my own Megalovania character fight after Sans dies: So... *Pours gLiTcH into the entire options menu and the field in which the fight takes place in after suffering his first defeat* lets get started. I can do this all day long. I plan on making the Genocide Run so borderline insufferable with my character adopting William Afton's strategy and just never dying. Because why not? And hey, while the character is at it, he constantly appears and challenges you to stop. Just stop, and constantly stands behind enemies and powers them up throughout fights up until after you beat Flowey, in which Chara and The StoryTeller each have a final fight where you get to play as either The StoryTeller and fight Chara and just completely dunk on her or fight The StoryTeller yourself if you want to hard commit to the Genocide route, in which Chara will take pity on you and call you a wide variety of insulting words before making it seem as though the route never happened in the first place. The whole shtick behind The StoryTeller is that "The pacifist route now has about over a thousand new things to do, go do them. If you don't, then you only get one new thing to do during the genocide route, and that's suffering." 16:19 What about Papyrus getting 4 vines stuck to him in comparison to Sans' 2? There's also the fact that if Sans is capable of all of this, just imagine what Papyrus would be capable of. If Sans could barely beat a determined player, Papyrus would've beaten the player, especially with Sans.
@delayedknight9421
@delayedknight9421 Жыл бұрын
I really like this video we need to get you back your so much better of a content creator then half the big ones
@kwuartz
@kwuartz Жыл бұрын
Great first video, man! If one's first video is truly the worst video, then I can be certain your continued sedulousness with future projects will amount to some great creations. Though, this sentiment of "first video = worst video" only applies if effort rises throughout one's career, thus making the next video require more effort, but will simultaneously heed a greater feat. TLDR: awesome vid, can't wait for the next one! xD
@somethingforsenro
@somethingforsenro Жыл бұрын
sans knowing how many times you've died, etc etc, seems to be a series of educated guesses based on the indicators he can readily see, like expression and body language. sans is incredibly smart and can read people like a book, almost literally, but he's not omnipotent. given that, there's a serious possibility that he made a mistake and we fell for it. he _assumes,_ based on the observable indicators, that the human (the player) is the anomaly. HOWEVER, he's also established to not know about flowey in the time stop "echo flower" talk. _(which is why sans doesnt actually remember resets but thats a whole other story)_ so, it's totally possible that the actual anomaly is flowey, and we've just all been stealing the credit for ourselves this whole time. on a related note, the "everything ends" involves every single timeline, not just geno ones. so it's totally possible that that end is, in fact, the end of undertale as a game. period. that's the exact flavor of meta i would expect from sans, that he discovered the game's literal ending. in other words: the anomaly could be FLOWEY, BEFORE we showed up, and only a little bit of the player's influence in the very last day. then, the "everything ends" is a fourth wall break/meta moment referring to the end of the game. tl;dr: is flowey the anomaly?
@isaacsteen4828
@isaacsteen4828 Жыл бұрын
WOah I'm so surprised this is your first video. Demonstrates better filmmaking traits than most youtubers ever get close to. Well done, instantly subscribed :)
@pixelstriko1642
@pixelstriko1642 Жыл бұрын
I think something quite interesting to note is that, if Sans realizes that you dont know that people in this world can figure out what youre doing (which he can because otherwise, you would have accounted for Sans' knowledge), he will then also realize that you could not have gained your special powers by some kind of scientific experiment that succeeded, but that you were probably given these powers by.. something else, and he can then understand that there is probably some correlation between determination and control of the timeline which he seems to subtly refer to during the fight, acknowledging determination's importance, aswell as in the neutral ending. So even if Sans would have no idea about Alphys and Gaster's experiments, he would still have some understanding of determination. So then his understanding of it cannot be used as evidence for the theories that state that Sans had special involvement in Gaster's and Alphys' experiments. Also lowkey feels like Grillby only has a fire head just so that Toby can show the player that Sans really did just stop time, as most other things are inanimate while idle. Edit: also completely unrelated to sans but if flowey was talking to literally you, the player, and not frisk, wouldnt he be scared shitless at the thought that some entity from out of this world just popped in, stole his powers, possessed a human, rebooted chara, and is now messing with the world?
@virriousblue
@virriousblue 11 ай бұрын
This is a good KZbin video! Suprising to hear that is the first one that you have made haha ^_^
@2capi
@2capi 6 ай бұрын
one thing i never hear people talking about, probably because its not relevant. sans doesn't use his powers when he is a lost soul during asriel battle
@ChloeVFX
@ChloeVFX 8 ай бұрын
I always thought of Sans' fight as a "Survive Until the End of the Song", and when I learnt that it looped back in on itself mid fight in my first playthrough, I thought of it as "Survive the Scripted Attacks Until he Gives up."
@damianszulik664
@damianszulik664 Жыл бұрын
19:45 mad dummy also says it will fight you forever it is only stoped from doing that by napstablook so thats not unique
@YaBoiCalamity
@YaBoiCalamity Жыл бұрын
I look forward to your future on this platform
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