All Ape Men in Conan Lore (Study and Theory Crafting)

[@davidemelia6296]

Thak the ape-man gave Conan the best direct fight of his entire career (if you only count REH's stories, which I do). I mean, that was one of Conan's first solo adventures, but still impressive.

[@jonathonfrazier6622]

I thought the fight with the Grey Ape in Shadows in the Moonlight was more desperate. And he was even more outmatched by that iron-bodied demonic thing that took place in the necromantically restored ruins on a island.

[@Vandelberger]

Really tragic, a species doomed from the beginning. It was Hannuan’s will that the winged apes devolved. They may have been coming too close to civilization.

[@StevenMichaelCunningham]

They chose to be thus do evil. Devolution by default occurs.

[@kzik3635]

Conan would be a bird

[@wesleyclayswank6732]

My nickname is Trog(lodyte) and so I guess I will add myself to the section, "Honorary Ape Men". I recently got called a Vanilla Gorilla (some sort of neo slur) but I think I'll take it.

[@deavonw]

Great video. Im finding the Asgardian snow apes a very creepy concept.

[@tysayre3692]

This is one of the best settings for fantasy survival horror there is if the people behind the project are willing to prune through it. Videos like this are quite helpful to that happening eventually.

[@edgyebi1610]

Concerning Lovecraft, his story "Facts Concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family" is a story directly related to having Ape Man ancestry.

[@jasonsantos3037]

Yeah I can't think of my own head Cannon about the world of Conan I believe the last remnants of the ape men race became the bigfoot and sasquatch modern day I think Kong will fit in quite well in the world of conan But great video been waiting for you about the ape men Keep up the good work man 🦧🦧🦧🦧🦍🦍🦍🦍

[@ElimGarakSpoonHead]

Return to monke Conan

[@juanisol8275]

I love your Lovecraft Ice Age/Thurian/Hyborian Bestiary Mapping and Timeline Analysis ❤️👍

[@logancole5101]

I am really enjoying this, I can't help but cast my mind to Ithaqua of Cthulhu mythos fame. Basically a Yeti like God. I feel like they would get down with Ithaqua (most of them at least).

[@logancole5101]

Never mind spoke too soon! :)

[@wybub]

Been waiting for this one. My personal HC when it comes to the various Ape Men is that through Hanuman's blessing, the humans of the setting are becoming more like the earliest humans of the setting--What we'd consider the last common ancestors of humans before the split from our other primate cousins. It would make sense that, through generations of devolution, the ape-men adapt to conditions more like the earliest humans. My Other HC centers around Varnae and the Gigantopithecus/Pictish Bull Apes. I like to think in the world of Conan, there's two subspecies of Giganto. One of them has human level intelligent like Varnae, but others, similar to the Ape-Men of the setting have devolved in intelligence and are more bestial.

[@jasonsantos3037]

the bull ape became the ancestor of King Kong 🦍

[@DarthMatusHolocron]

I like this head canon this makes sense to me, based on what we see. I always found it interesting that Varney was an ape. I'm not sure if it was intentional, but I think it's the first time vampirism was tied directly into the evolutionary history of mankind, like it's an emergent--albeit mostly supernaturally driven--property of the evolution of apes. Howard may have very well established the trope of the millennia old ancient vampire that we see mirrored in so many vampire stories now adays, from The Originals to Blade.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

@@DarthMatusHolocron It will always be my own headcanon that the Originals from Blade are tied to the Antediluvians of World of Darkness. And that the UnderWorld series is as well.

[@DarthMatusHolocron]

@@mirceazaharia2094 well, considering Underworld actually got sued for stealing from WoD I would say you are not too far off!

[@pootisengage6672]

Never knew Conan had this much lore. Keep up the good work

[@grosslittlegoblin1358]

This is a remarkable supliment if for example you want to make orc tribes more unique and interesting in your ttrpg.

[@graveatlas3482]

Get off work and see the Ape Man video I've been waiting for. Great way to end a rough work day. Great work as always, dear Scholar

[@mycaleb8]

Been waiting for this one. I've always enjoyed Howard's interesting perspective on evolution.

[@SovietRussia777]

Not knowing anything about the universe until playing exiles these videos are very interesting and super well done! Thank you for these!

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

Np it’s what I’m here for!

[@OldGreyGryphon]

Monke!!! I’ve been looking forward to this video and you don’t disappoint. Great apes and ape-men are two of my favorite pulp foes so this is a real treat! Would you have any interest in doing videos like this on some of the creatures of Warhammer Fantasy?

[@mirceazaharia2094]

Ooh man, this reminds me of that Ape Man that Thoth Amon turns himself into in the movie Conan the Destroyer. It's certainly inferior to John Milius' masterpiece, but a fun adventure movie on its own.

[@thesagepilgrim4441]

Fantastic, a surprise with the inclusion of Ithaqua. Do you have a take on “Facts Concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family”?

[@bechtholdillustrator9378]

Another nice video ! Really enjoying these.Found your channel through your Review of the Age of Conan Mod for Exiles. Big Sword and Sorcery Fan for Years and i really enjoy that Conan gets some more love online now.

[@kaisergrimoire9008]

I would love to see your tackle the topic of the Eldritch Fiends of Siptah and hear your theories and crafting about them.

[@joenathan8059]

Kingkong,cthulhu,aliens,wizards and marvel heroes. What doesn't Conan have?

[@sig206]

Great video as always, I look forward to one day making detailed videos about the Hyborian races, especially the Hyperboreans, it is very difficult to find information on these! Thanks for your content.

[@DarthMatusHolocron]

yes!! Been really looking forward to this man! I'm really glad to have found your channel, my dude. You make great content, and I've been a fan of Howard and Conan especially since I was very young. Seeing you grow has gotten me mad hype cause finally, FINALLY, the Cimmerian is starting to get the love he deserves. Legit, your channel pushed me to toss my hat in the Conan ring, and I've got a fully produced audiobook of Tower of the Elephant coming out soon because of it! Keep up the good work, man, for real. About time Howard's stuff had a chance at a slightly more unified and public fandom. Congrats on the 10k subs! May you never stop growing, and may Conan tread the jeweled kingdoms of the earth beneath his sandaled feet!

[@NainakaiAyita]

Monkeh! While I've played this for years, the grunting of the hanuman creatures still scare me. x'D

[@AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHAA]

apes strong together

[@shovellord1117]

Quick question, do you know what artist did the art for the pictish bull ape? I have a small "kongllection" of figures and books and that art would go amazing with it.

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

Frank Frazetta or Ken Kelly

[@shovellord1117]

@@GrimDarkHalfOff thanks I found it, "The Mighty King" by ken kelly

[@jasonsantos3037]

the bull ape are literally king kongs

[@crazyscotsman9327]

Ah hell ya! Another work of art from Grim Dark Half off.

[@WHISKEYSHIZZLE]

Nice Gwar reference there with the cuddlefish comment.

[@tbogeyman]

I actually thought the Tcho-Tcho would be found in here as the Imps. But i just started with conan lore.

[@YismirGoldFingers]

Noice, just what i needed before work

[@ravehead420]

I just found your channel today and watched all your conan vids and they were all excellent. I'm loving the deep dives into the specific creatures and Iv read almost all of Robert E Howard's books that I could find. I started recently playing conan unchained what server are you on?

[@Aiden999]

These are great!!

[@TemeriaForever]

Outstanding presentation! What a wonderful channel.

[@jackruby6696]

Primal the show feels like it takes place in Conan

[@mrpotatochu6611]

Very cool video

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

Is that you pika? Are you the same one I used to hang out with on discord?

[@mrpotatochu6611]

@@GrimDarkHalfOff no my guy, i am not, sorry for you to be dissapointed. But your content is awesome

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

@@mrpotatochu6611 ah that sucks, but welcome to the channel !

[@mrpotatochu6611]

@@GrimDarkHalfOff my guy, i gotta say, you are the only youtuber who does conan the Barbarian content, and you are awesome at it

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

@@mrpotatochu6611 Thanks! I have 2 More Addendum Videos Planned plus some more crazy stuff.

[@bad-people6510]

Ape men an big ass snakes. Hyboria had an infestation.

[@bearthegenxgm]

I love that you pronounce it "Ah-ker-ron" and not "Ash-er-ron". Thank you. :) Now if only I could convince folks it's "Ah-ka-dia" and not "Ah-Kay-dia" ;) Great video, as always man :)

[@CHARMING_PLAYBOY_007]

Are there Were beasts in Conan mythos too just curious I'm eager to learn about all Creatures Gods and Wizards in Conan please!

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

Yes! We talk about werewolves and vampires in Conan in episode 1 of our Gods series.

[@CHARMING_PLAYBOY_007]

Awesome thanks for the information and the reply appreciate it!😃😄

[@CHARMING_PLAYBOY_007]

Pretty cool thanks for letting me know appreciate it!😃👍

[@markcampbell4080]

Every time I think this Conan would make an amazing series ( if done right) it occurs to me that with today's proclivity to label things any apeman on film would be castigated as racist almost immediately.

[@Khanclansith]

Makes you wonder if these are the ancestors of modern Sasquatch and Yeti stories

[@fatelvisjr3808]

5:42 does conan always say badass shit like this?

[@blockmasterscott]

I missed that part, I'm glad you made this post. That was badass!

[@fatelvisjr3808]

@@blockmasterscott i think that would make some cool shorts. U seen grim dark was doing a few shorts here and there? Like... A litte 15 second explainer of whatever leads up to it and then end the short with the badass conan quote. Pretty much exactly what he did in the the 20 seconds leading up to that. And do that with all best ones. You know?

[@Aurora2097]

Apemen and Serpentmen... The Orcs and Trolls of Conan.

[@kbritu]

Return to monke!

[@egillskallagrimson5879]

There's plenty of Native American folklore about sasquatch that would also fit elegantly into this kind of mythos and setting, and one cannot but wonder if there's a degree of truth in such legends when there are so many accounts of strange encounters in the wild with the stuff of legends.

[@jasonsantos3037]

Probably the sasquatch are the last remnants of the ape men race

[@spacesergeant101]

There's a lot of talk of demons. Is there a lore video about demons in Conan?

[@jasonsantos3037]

Yes 👹

[@waldirnacarath]

howard had a real fixation with apes

[@SleepySloth2705]

13:18 Funnily enough, my orcs look like green, hairless chimpanzees with boar-like tusks, but live in a vikingesque society and worship dragons as gods

[@ElvenHound]

Is that background music the Valheim sailing music at like 11:30??

[@ElvenHound]

Okay it absolutely is.

[@indianpotatofarmer6508]

Ape men to the uncultured and *monke* to those who know

[@blukoi3829]

What if the ape-men are just a bunch of funky dudes who ate too many bananas?

[@bengriffin5288]

Can gun powder fit in the hyborian age and what will impact the civilizations of hyborian age.

[@bloodhaze101]

My favorite animal, my favorite Conan Race/Subrace and factions. Thank you for this:) in Hanuman’s name 🦍 🦍 🦍

[@DANINSKYWOW]

BEWARE THE BEAST MAN, FOR HE IS THE DEVILS PAWN!!! 🦍🙊🙈🐵🗿

[@AlexanderHamburg]

You missed a bit. In the history Howard came up with, the Cimmerians were descended from a race of white snow apes who were driven north during the wars involving Atlantis.

[@54032Zepol]

Aren't there ape men north of hyborea and Conan and his clan fought and banished the survivors further north and then a hundred years later they come back as super Aryans ???

[@smuggrog9821]

The northern ape men are supposed to be the ancestors of the Nordheimer but that doesn't necessarily mean all the ape men of the north evolved into humans though. Its possible that one group of ape men simply went further north, remaining in thier bestial state due to thier harsher environment and not coming into conflict with the more advanced Hyborians like the other ape men did. Thier is also the supernatural influences to take into account to and its likely that Hanuman could have had a hand in stunting thier evolution.

[@wazaifoamaliyatkihaqeeqat547]

Where you take these monsters from a game or some franchise lore or comic

[@wazaifoamaliyatkihaqeeqat547]

I think that winged ape giant is the strongest ape monster cause he is a demon pluse savage i think he can beat all other apes

[@kelvinsantiago7061]

3rd comment!. Also could you please check out the Ehdrigohr rpg it's basically Native American D&D (I don't remember if I asked).

[@DarthMatusHolocron]

That actually sounds dope, I'll look it up!

[@kelvinsantiago7061]

@@DarthMatusHolocron Just doing my duty to promote good stuff to all my Conan loving amigos.

[@FUNeRaLPyR3]

For the algorithm

[@ZhangLee.]

does these ape man fought when they see any serpent kin like human did ??

[@MrMojoman1976]

Were these creatures in the Howard stories ?

[@thejabberwocky9620]

LET'S FUCKING GGGOOOOO!!!

[@zacharyrodriguez4348]

So this how we got donkey Kong and co.

[@jasonsantos3037]

Don't forget King Kong

[@zacharyrodriguez4348]

That's what the as for mentioned company is for

[@semi-useful5178]

hell yeah

[@Iijjccbb]

Return to monke

[@Eric_Von_Yesselstyn]

The beginning of the intro sounds like he taking about the Mayor of Chicago... I know he is.

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

I don’t know who that is. I’m from Texas.

[@Eric_Von_Yesselstyn]

@@GrimDarkHalfOff It's name is BEETLEFOOT. And yes you have seen things about her, she's ALL over mas media, every day. ROFL, can't believe you're acting like you don't know who she is., you're funny.

[@thehillz726]

I'm surprised there isn't a religion of the savage gods of the Conan / Howard Verse Including jebilsong, his family, ithocqua, tsogguah, and human war gods like crom and yamir and primal spirits like bear god

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

You can always make one 👍🏼

[@RyanTheMan000]

*HELL YEAH, APES!!!*

[@jasonsantos3037]

🦧🦧🦧🦧🦍🦍🦍🦍👍👍👍👍

[@TheShadowInTheMask]

fuck yea!

[@notRuger]

They really took "Return to Monke" a bit too literally, huh?

[@richardides2035]

Devolution did happen in past how is it fictional?? For example Ardipithecus ramidus "should be the common ancestor we share with chimps" was bipedal and had reduce canin teets yet late some of his "offspring" would returne to apes (devolved to monkee) and some would turn to human.

[@JonathanGhost42]

The problem with the concept of devolution is the inherent idea, that a change in a species that is seen from our perspektive as bad (like losing intelligence or bipedalism) cannot be called evolution like any other adaptation. But seeing things from a more objective perspective, then there is nothing like devolution per se, but only evolution. We are speaking here about a fantasy setting, so there is no need to make everything scientific, but when we use real cases in our real world as example like the one you mentioned, then we can say that it was for the ancestors of a species that "devolved" certain traits rather better for survival to lose this traits instead to keep them or specialice more in this traits - and this would be one of the core principles of evolution. (Sorry for my horrible english, but i am german and rather read or hear english than speak or write it myself. Hopefully my point came still across...)

[@richardides2035]

@@JonathanGhost42 If there is time in history when environment create process by which something is made worse not better then is it really evolution?

[@JonathanGhost42]

@@richardides2035 But what is "worse"? From our human perspective it would be worse if our descendants would lose intelligence because of some changing enviromental factor, but from the point of nature it would be not worse (and neither better), but just another adaptation and from the basis of the concept around evolution everything that helps or does not hinder the survival of a species is fine as long as the creatures survive and mate. And something is only objectively a worse change from a darwinistic point of view, if the changes hinder the creatures in their primary objective of survivig and mating. Evolution in itself is just the change of life over time and the proces of adaptation, but if it would be a bad or good change from the point of view of the species is irrelevant as long as the genetic line survives.

[@Wastelandman7000]

Are you absolutely sure devolution is fictional? I know some people who I have questions about! LOL

[@michaelthomas5433]

Iron apes. But are there iron eagles?

[@TheAlterspark]

Yeah but they're all busy rescuing their dads from non descript middle eastern countries.

[@wearblackclothes]

Where does the exiled lands fit into the world map. Is it a case that for gamplay and Hardware limitations the exiled lands map isn't to scale?

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

Yeah it does seem to be a Skyrim situation sadly. In my All Cultures video I go over where all the maps are for the games at the end.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

kong huh?

[@alcardvamp1311]

ccol

[@majordakka5743]

Would the Tcho-Tcho eat ape men?

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

Probably

[@jasonsantos3037]

Well they get their hands on that will not be easy 🦍

[@thekeytothegate]

“Diversity” 😆🤣

[@dabeard6905]

You sound like a 20 year old mike Rowe

[@royriley6282]

'deevolution, a fictional process...' >hasn't been to Florida

[@newtonia-uo4889]

It hasn't been to the west in general

[@hexchad765]

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