All CCI .22lr Segmented Ballistic Gel Test - Quiet - Subsonic - Mini-Mag - Segmented HP

[@natereinhold6180]

The 2 subsonic rounds will be very similar in velocity out of a 16" barrel due to the powder burning up before the round can leave the barrel and will actually start to loose a bit of speed. Try them both out of an 8"-10" barrel.

[@kwinzman]

Extremely informative. Thanks!

[@tuckalicious1]

Great vid and even better shot placement!!! Good results

[@luketilley9137]

Awesome!!! Do a comparison with the Winchester silvertip vs the segmented cci hyper velocity, or segmented stingers? Out of a pistol

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Good idea

[@fixedG]

Thanks sharing. I was mostly interested in the 40-grain mini-mag vs the 32 grain with squirrel and rabbit in mind.

[@JohnLloydScharf]

To quote Paul Harrell,"Well we crunched the numbers and here is one of those opportunities to point out those caveats I was talking about. Chronographs don't always agree with each other and various environmental factors like elevation, barometric pressure, ambient temperature can affect chronograph results. " I believe CCI is using the Kimber Classic bolt action 22" barrel instead of your Ruger 10/22 18.5" semi-auto barrel. Velocity is lost by self-loading semi-automatics up front, so your Quiet and Subsonic lost the highest percentage.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

That may be true, but I have been using this chrono for some time now with many different calibers, even including bb guns and pellet guns, and it always picks up anything I shoot over it and has always been very accurate. Now that doesn't mean it isn't possible for it to fudge up, but given my recent experience with multiple dud rounds from CCI, I give the nod to my chrono for sure.

[@JohnLloydScharf]

@@BuckeyeBallistics The more experience you have, the more failures you will have. From multiple sources, the data shows CCI performs better than the others. Aguila does not, given the results from several sources, perform up to the advertised velocity.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

No, CCI has gone down hill in the past couple years as I hinted on with my first comment, and in this very video. I loved CCI for 20 years, and for 20 years would agree that they were the golden standard. That is, until I got 1, possibly 2 CCI squib loads earlier this year while reviewing the Taurus TX22. Then to make matters worse, they called me a liar when I told them. Well I did some research, and as a couple commenters pointed out as well, CCI was bought out by ATK/Vista Outdoors. So CCI is no longer the CCI you and I used to know, which explains why the quality has gone to crap. I have had many viewiers come forward in the past few months also, telling me how they were having issues with CCI ammo as well, and many stating that it never used to be like that with their product. So their brand has definately gone down the drain...

[@JohnLloydScharf]

@@BuckeyeBallistics ATK will keep CCI more competitive than Aquila, even though I have been buying Aquila for years. CCI went down and that is what made it affordable to buy out; not the reverse. For a segmenting round to compare: www.luckygunner.com/22-lr-37-cphp-high-energy-winchester-varmint-he-50-rounds#geltest As I think I said, Aquila's velocities are not 1700fps as advertised. www.aguilaammo.com/ammunition/1b220298/ .22LR, 30gr CPRN, Aguila Supermaximum Hyper Velocity kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGnImmWKq9eYqbc www.luckygunner.com/labs/pocket-pistol-caliber-gel-test-results/#22LR So, Aquila does perform, but you should always fire three shots and CCI gets the mandatory penetration minimum reliably. 40 Grain CPHP - CCI Velocitor www.luckygunner.com/cci-22-lr-ammo-for-sale-22lr40cphpvelocitorccimm-50#geltest

[@JohnLloydScharf]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I just saw the video where your CCI ammo blew up in your Taurus. Scary. Luckily it was just a LR.

[@imthatguy1878]

I find the cci quiet segmented to be the best for tree rat and ground critter control, it has a slap sound upon impact

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I know that sound... 😅

[@commiesnzombies]

i used a quit segmented hp on a big raccoon i caught behind my chicken coop and it was gruesome, looked like a 1980s horror scene, blood everywhere

[@gavingerrits5135]

Hey man I was talking to you before end I've shot over 100 rounds of 22 quiet and they work perfectly It sounds just like pellet gun from 40 yards away. Pretty dense woods around where I shoot

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Cool, now try the Colibri sometime and you'll be amazed how much quieter they are. But as I said, they aren't very practical beyond 10-15 yards (the Colibri).

[@gavingerrits5135]

@@BuckeyeBallistics thanks man I'll have to give em a try

[@MrSwish3r]

Bad ass intro, we need it in all the videos.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Thanks. Other people didn't think so highly of it unfortunately (what's wrong with them lol) 🤷‍♂️

[@Watergiant95]

Whoever was also out there was gettin it with those full autos hahaha

[@Tadders]

Had no idea there were so many renditions/variations of the same bullet type from the same company lol. Interesting tests

[@heavensadistancenotaplace]

it was made by tom burczynski, first under the name "quik-shok". it was licensed to CCI, but tom's patent ran out so many are copying it. not sure why people haven't stepped up and made it for other calibers, most fragmenting rounds do not do nearly as well as the 3 segments smooshed together. tom is an absolute genius and it shows in his designs.

[@bumpercoach]

put price sticker rounds where you hit so later shots are easier to distinguish for where they enter

[@martyjewell5683]

Thanks for a swell Christmas present, this video. You know I'm fascinated with firearm ballistics, always have been. Nice that you take the time to show and describe what you're doing. Almost like school. I didn't know about the BB calibration with gelatin. Interesting too about your ammo choices. Didn't know there was a Stinger "type" ammo with segmented bullets. I remember being very impressed with the ballistics of the CCI QUIK-SHOK hyper velocity fodder some years back. Really like your 10/22, that gun's just got style. And more to come you say?? Oh yeah, the intro is kinda cool.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Well I figured since it was my first ballistic gel video, that I should show (for those who don't know) how you calibrate the block to make sure you made it right, and also to show (for those who both do and don't know) that I made it right, being that it was my first ever block. In future videos I won't show this process, but rather, just briefly show/include the calibration results for those who would want to know them for varification. The 10/22 is Rugers "Tiger" stock, and actually has a tiger face on one side of the buttstock. We did a quick review of this gun along with their red "wild hog" stock 10/22 a few month ago if you want to see more of it/them. As for the intro, the "hip hop" or "funk" style music is the only thing I didn't feel 100% confident about. I'm ok with it, but it may not be super fitting for gun content and might get a few lowbrow reactions, which is why I asked people what they thought about it. When I can find some decent royalty free rock music, it will be replaced with that, which I think will be more fitting. Also I plan to change the intro every few months with recent clips as I progress.

[@Will-tn8kq]

I love these segmented 22 tests. Can you do them for fired from a snub nose revolver? I would llike to see a side-by-side comparison with Federal punch. They seem to be the 22lr with the best penetration and the 22lr with the best expansion, I'd like to see a comparison between those 2 specialized 22lr rounds, fired from a snubby.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I don't have a .22lr snubby anymore. But a while back I did a massive .22lr pistol gel test which featured one such firearm, and I did put the 2 fastest CCI segmented through it in that video I believe. Here is the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJfLhZ5tjJKYl5Y

[@DTNM308]

Great video man

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Appreciate it

[@Two_Waters]

Tamp strike anywhere match heads into a .22 hollow point and it will explode on impact, even into a water jug.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Wow that's cool, I'll have to try that.

[@bangsdagong]

badass cars and guns! works for me ;-) if i was havn words with someone and they said "i have a gun", i am walking away.

[@robertrobinson5701]

Have you tried to do the fbi ballistic test with the segmented round with some Jean material on top of a piece of zone board with the gel behind it ? Friend trued with hollow point and the Jean material stopped it from mushrooming !

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

No and yeah that commonly happens with smaller calibers. I can almost garuntee you the segmented bullets would do something though...

[@mattbarton3725]

I liked the intro guns and mustang can’t go wrong with me happy new year

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Thanks man, happy new year.

[@mattfleming86]

Hey dude something that might help, camera wise, is to put the light source on the opposite side of the camera, like a backlight. With the right camera/light angles you can view it against the sun as well. Winchester released a "silvertip" round that leaves a solid base, and the same 3 pedals up front. Base seems to go ~14-16" from what I've seen so far and pedals about 4in (they are a little lighter)

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I'll check em out

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

Dam good content👍🏻. I’m curious how good the segmenting rounds would work out of a Ruger MK pistol

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Thank you! And that's a good point- Several years ago I did a video displaying how hollow points don't open up much when fired out of a pistol due to the lower velocities, thus rendering them a round nose and ineffective. I actually used a mk1 in that video, which surprisingly did seem to get the hp's to open up some, albeit not as much as my rifle did. This was a water filled pop can test, but you could tell the hp's were opening up compared to the round nose's due to the more explosive hits. I concluded in that video though that the longer barrel of the mk1 I was using must have gave enough velocity to provide some expansion, as my p22 with a shorter barrel did not achieve these results in the past. With that being said, the velocity from the mk1 would drop to p22 levels by 20-25 yards I would imagine. As far as these segmented rounds splitting into 3 from a pistol, I'm confident that at least the subsonic round and up would, as they would still be traveling over 700fps out of a pistol. The quiets I'm not sure, as they would probably be in the 500fps range from a pistol. But they wouldn't cycle a semi-auto pistol anyway... Currently I'm without a .22 pistol, but when I have access to one again I will try to redo the test with a pistol and see what happens. I got a bunch of other .22 ammo to test as well, comming up soon.

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

@@BuckeyeBallistics well isn’t that something I have a mk1. I should have went with the mk2 with the last round hold open and and bolt release. But I was trained on a mk1 by my father and that pistol was stolen. So I had to replace it for sentinel reasons. I’ll probably end up getting the newest version of the Ruger mkIV. It seems that the mkIV is the best version yet it has all the features you want and none of the ones you don’t. In my opinion the mk3 was the worst version out of all of them. Mag disconnect loaded chamber flag all Lawer bannered up. Smh at least Ruger made it all correct with the IV

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Yeah I recently, like literally last week, learned about all the flaws with the mk3. I really want a MK4 Hunter, with the long stainless fluted barrel and fiber optic sights. Dream pistol right there; one day I'll have one. I like the 22/45 MK also.

[@imthatguy1878]

@@Johnny-jr2lq I prefer the mkii out of the 4 variants, 10rd, last round hold open, can slingshot it, no loaded chamber indicator or mag disconnect. I find the trigger is best out of the 4 models

[@jmurphy68463]

CCI is the best 22 ammunition there is.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

* Was * Now that they are owned by ATK/Vistaoutdoors, quality has went downhill. Did you not see the dud round in the video? Also I failed to detect a (cci) squib load in my tx22 review video which altimately led to the guns demise, and then they called me a liar about having a squib until they saw the video...

[@jmurphy68463]

@@BuckeyeBallistics Still the best, just sounds like you had one bad experience and now hold a grudge. Ammunition is still good with or without good customer service.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I literally just mentioned two bad experiences...

[@jmurphy68463]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I've never had anything but good experiences with CCI and their services. Sucks that you didn't.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Yeah well like I said in the video, that was the case for me too for the past 20 years until this day. Then I learned that they are no longer the same company, as they were bough out, and then it all made sense. I still get comments weekly on these videos about people having similar experiences with cci. Keep shooting cci long enough and it'll happen to you too.

[@bumpercoach]

MASSIVE wound channeling compared to typical 22hp

[@bigsean2473]

so you dont like cci? what are you going to use? from my research federal makes just about all ammo but hornady fiocca and some of the brands thats local to your state

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I did, until they called me a liar after 20 years of loyalty to their brand. I'm switching to Aguila.

[@JohnDoe-sx2zk]

@@BuckeyeBallistics you sound butthurt

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I am

[@davidmorris4353]

@@BuckeyeBallistics Who is they? Was this a secretary? Guy that works in receiving? The janitor? CCI has always treated the shooting public pretty stellar in my opinion.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

@david - Customer service rep - watch the videos if you want to know more...

[@joebob4609]

I liked the intro.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Thanks

[@bumpercoach]

its like a shotgun shell travels a one unit to the target THEN disperses on contact

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I wonder if wax slugs do that (shotshells with wax poured into the shot).

[@bumpercoach]

​good point @@BuckeyeBallistics the curving shapes definitely make the tri-petals even more slashing in their dispersion

[@twodogs1298]

👍on intro.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Thanks for the feedback

[@anthonygonzales1027]

How much does each box carry ?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

50

[@antonisssbtw400]

will the bullet disperse from a pistol?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I believe so, seeing as how even the lowest velocity one did. But sometime this year I plan to do gel tests with a .22 pistol and we will see which rounds work and which ones don't from a pistol.

[@antonisssbtw400]

@@BuckeyeBallistics that is a video i would like to see. did you end up getting everything figured out with your tx22?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

No I've been having issues with getting ahold of them but someone informed me last night that I can fill out an online work request form, so that's what I'm going to do today.

[@antonisssbtw400]

@@BuckeyeBallistics nice hope it goes good mane

[@kenrodriguez6466]

nice video friend

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Thanks. I've posted a few more .22 gel tests since.

[@Ideal1980]

wow, segmented hollowpoint looks like you could actually use for self defence, that looks totally fatal

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

You could, but some would argue that the less than 12" fbi standard minimum penetration deems it inadequate. However, I don't think anyone under 300lbs has their heart or lungs more than 3-4" underneath their chest...

[@Ideal1980]

@@BuckeyeBallistics well at least it wouldn't go through someone and hit the next person in line

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Right, always a valid concern.

[@grndzro777]

Yup. 8 of those from a Taurus 3 inch revolver would put anyone down.

[@Will-tn8kq]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I load a revolver with cci segmented and federal punch. best 22lr expansion, alternating with best 22lr penetration. Seems like the best of both worlds.

[@jeffoh5787]

I bet that Mustang is more accurate at hitting curbs.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Hit more in my Camaro...

[@BBQRando]

Totally Swift 👍💥 says #BBQRando 🌵

[@johnhill7585]

Something is needed to augment a .22 out of a pistol. So I'd rather see their effectiveness out of one.

[@FeldwebelWolfenstool]

...the Quiet Segmented cycles in my A22, but the ordinary Quiet non-segmented ones do not...

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Weird. They make quiet "semi auto" now that will cycle in all guns.

[@markk3948]

@@BuckeyeBallistics yeah they are awesome and quiet. Just wish they were segmented. But just going from 710 to 835 fps and 5 extra grain puts the muzzle energy from around 45 up to around 75 so they are great for stealth hunting lol

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Can fabricate your own hollow point or segments with them with a dremel...

[@markk3948]

@@BuckeyeBallistics your more brave than I am my friend lol

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

😅

[@lawrencehawk5179]

Title says all CCI, then you shoot a BB gun, thought it was about 22 ammo?

[@TheWay-up777]

He was shooting cci bbs

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

Not sure WHY people are so hard on penetration, you don't want penetration, you want wound damage as it 1st enters ....

[@AmisCorolla]

it is also safety issue sometimes if bullet goes straight true. There is almos zero test about that CCI Segmented HP Subsonic ammo and it has been round for years and so many people hunt small game with that round. is it really that good? im not sure.

[@romak4756]

No intro, at least not this one

[@thomasholiday4094]

ripping tearing slicing mini sthotgun damage to blood carrying ...

[@andreasmdmxxx]

Intro Top. Greetings from Germany

[@DeanMk1]

Fancy! You're going to have to change the name of your channel to "HOLLYWOOD Guns&Cars", now! ;-) Naw, just kidding. That was an interesting way to slice up the Ballistics Gel. Don't think I've ever seen anyone do it that way before. Pretty cool video. Look forward to seeing more on this. ...and since I have your attention... Its funny that you did another .22 test, because I was thinking about this the other day. Many years ago, I remember reading a stat that said that a snub nose revolver will usually yield about 80% of a cartridges listed velocity. Velocity listed on the box of .22 ammo is for rifles. Velocity from a rifle is about 1.5 times that of the same cartridge fired from a handgun. The CCI Quiet round lists its velocity at 710 f/s. Given the above logic, "normal" handgun velocity should be about 475 f/s, but only just under 380 f/s from a snubbie. The bullet weighs 40 grains. At that velocity, it should be making approx. 12 3/4 ft./lbs. of ME. ...being that weak, I wonder if one could catch that bullet with a baseball mitt? Please feel free to take that one and run with it. Chat at cha L8R. =)

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Yeah, I have been planning on doing the slices for years now, because as you said, nobody does it. So hopefully that'll be a plus to my channel. But anyway, run with it? Alright. Well, 12ft-lbs is more energy than a 10 pump pellet gun has, so I'm gonna go with it will absolutely shoot right through the baseball glove, because a 10 pump definately would. But I would also like to add, that the velocity should be even higer than what you calculated. The reason a rifle gets higher velocity than a pistol, as I'm sure you're aware, is because the longer barrel burns more of the gun powder before it blasts out the end of the barrel, resulting in more pressure/propulsion; a pistol barrel wastes a lot of this. Well with these quiet rounds, there is far less gunpowder in them. So there is less to burn before the bullet exits the barrel, meaning it doesn't need as long of a barrel to reach maximum velocity. Also, the quiet bullet is traveling slower, which gives more time for the powder to be burnt before it exits the barrel, just like a longer barrel does. So you have less powder *and* more time to burn it with the quiets, so you won't lose nearly as much velocity to a shorter barrel with these as you would with a standard round. The same is true for heavier rounds in an identical caliber comparison, because the heavier round is in the barrel ever so slightly longer due to the slightly lower velocity, therefore burning more of the powder before it exits. Because of this, heavier bullets lose less velocity when going from a long barrel to a short barrel than a lighter bullet does. Science!

[@DeanMk1]

@@BuckeyeBallistics Ah yes, I didn't account for that. Oh well, it was just an idea, but yeah, that makes perfect sense. Thanks for addressing my idea anyway.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

This may be way off in left field, but a round that should bounce off of you is small birdshot like #8 or #9 at 100 yards or beyond. Or maybe Aguila Colibri or a 10 pump pellet gun at the same distance; the Colibri is only a 20gr bullet at 400-500fps. Even then I'm not 100% sure. Would make for an interesting video!

[@DeanMk1]

@@BuckeyeBallistics Yeah, maybe with the Colibri. That's about as weak as it gets with a .22. I seem to remember now, shooting a neighbor's Daisy pump (880, I think it was) at my baseball mitt and none of the BB's penetrated. Distance wasn't far. Maybe 20-30 feet and I don't think I pumped it up much. Too long ago to remember details. If you still wanna do that test, go for it. I think it would make for a cool video, too.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I'm sure the bb's would have bounced off, but a pellet would not have I don't think. I used to have an 880 and a Crosman 2100 and they would both shoot through quite a bit with the pellets, as the pellets carried a lot more energy and penetration due to the heavier weight. We shot the test batch I mentioned in this video with the same bb gun in the video, but with a pellet *and* bb, and the pellet traveled about an inch further into the gel than the bb. As for the bounce off video, I would do something to the effect of putting up a big sheet of plywood with styrofoam or something to that effect attatched and shoot at it. The wood is too hard and the styrofoam too soft though; got any better ideas?

[@c.miller3802]

My god that other shooting is annoying

[@weaponizedconfusion]

Weirdest intro ever

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Eh, I changed it.

[@uglyfrog7263]

Poor video, poor video.

[@Darthdoodoo]

Hes just trying to be entertaining give him a break. Where is your video?

[@jonathandiamond6801]

Intro sucks. Sorry dude. Keep working on it.