ALL DoorDash Dashers Expect These Changes Coming Soon...

[@YourDriverMike]

⚡Can you make good money driving for DoorDash? I tried accepting only the highest paying offers to find out. Watch the shift here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/npOclml-psl8jdU

[@LSDale]

Base pay is simply too low. It needs to be at least $5 minimum base pay, and when an order takes my over 10 miles outside my zone like happened last night, I need to be compensated more for that. Pay is the elephant in the room, and they just refuse to acknowledge the real issue. Also, here in Maine, autonomous delivery won't be happening any time soon simply due to environmental factors, distances, and the fact that you'd probably lose half your drones at the last mile of the delivery. Too many junked up yards.

[@stevewoodyt]

The reason they even have these calls is to reassure investors that they are going to see a return on their investment. Every 99 days DD needs to have more profit than the previous. There is only one way left to do that. Turn driver pay into profit. The customer pool is running dry. Raising prices the customer has to pay won’t work because that will turn into lost sales and lost customers. Do you think their execs and upper management are going to let them take their pay and bonuses to shift that over to profits? Unlikely. Maybe Trump will let them have some tax cuts? Not out of the question but that also will have a cost associated with it and take time. Drivers will be forking over the profits needed without consent until we can’t anymore. No driver, no customers, no profits, no DD. I would say it been fun but it’s really just been frustrating.

[@Isaiah-ry7rg]

If base pay was mile based, it be ok, specifically on Uber, 1 dollar a mile, rest on tips

[@stevewoodyt]

@ it is mileage based. You drive 8 miles and get $2.

[@stevewoodyt]

@ if it doesn’t make dollars it doesn’t make sense.

[@xbackwitit2899]

Lmao $5 base pay should be minimum wage

[@LeifEngvik]

AI delivery is doomed. My dasher app GPS is consistently wrong.

[@delusionalz8707]

So is 90% wrong?😂 just a matter of them AI will take your job 😂

[@xerowolf4242]

I just tried dashing for the first time this week. Was on my first dash and their in app navigation tried to lead me down a one way street the wrong way. And it wasn't a fluke. It does it every time there's an order going that direction. I called doordash and chose the option to "report a major safety issue" and they basically told me they didn't care and to just use a different navigation app or don't go that way. I have done a total of 31 deliveries for them and already found multiple major issues with them as a company, the way they treat drivers, and safety issues like the one I described.

[@YourDriverMike]

As a Tesla owner that has the full self driving 30 day trial right now I tried to use the autonomous Summon feature which brings the car to you...needless to say it messed up twice. Standard FSD is pretty solid but point being tech/AI/autonomous systems still have plenty of work to do.

[@guybeingaguy]

Gotta blame the app! No way it could be a cell site issue! No way it could be your phone settings! No way it could be ….. ITS THE APP!

[@traviskitteh]

See, that's the trick. An autonomous delivery vehicle doesn't need to be able to deliver the order 100% of the time, it just needs to succeed often enough that it doesn't cause customers to leave the platform. The goal is not necessarily to make doordash more money as much as it is to induce "competition" for drivers on the platform, thus pressuring them into accepting lower payouts and worse deliveries. Don't want to take this 5 mile delivery for 1.80? Cool, we'll just have our drone take the order at a profit loss.

[@areyouokay3297]

In my area they’re partnered with all the big grocery stores and it’s great money per hr for low miles. 25$ shops for 10-20 items all day long

[@YourDriverMike]

Nice, if they're short shops maybe I'll try more

[@jacobcutrer]

There’s a giant grocery chain they’ve partnered with in my area and I never expected it because they have their own delivery service. Also I think we’ll be seeing a lot more dashlink orders because it’s faster than the traditional delivery service and probably cheaper. I actually did one and even though it was a lot of dropoffs, it was actually decent money for the time.

[@perrybass7533]

Yup my area aswell, the pay is good, i had a Target order $23. Only 6 items Easy peasy 3 miles.

[@DB-ju8ph]

Not good in my area...never got a grocery order even tho I've been a Platinum for several months now. Hardly worth the hourly pay because they always send me outside of my delivery zone to make it worth THEIR while. Gas is a big factor when they use this strategy.

[@DB-ju8ph]

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[@evekurocieru]

I was platinum and used to get good catering orders. can't work my way back up to that 100 deliveries a month point and just seeing bad orders as fewer and fewer people tip, especially for Dashmart. I turned groceries off as they were using it as a way to order 200lbs of cases of water and 80lb dog food, up to their skycraper apt with no tip and no parking spot. I usually use Uber Eats now as I have more choice to just keep rejecting the people who think I should bring them their food for $2, or their year's supplies.

[@johngrafton6868]

Getting a grocery order for 6-10 dollars for up to 40 items is a waste of time and an insult to the drivers. Normally, one would get that for a pick and delivery order so you are donating your time for WHAT?

[@LindaE-we5pz]

3 years in-22/25 hrs per week, over 8k deliveries and platinum. I like preferences options and now I only do food... DD needs to do better with screening drivers in its Catering/large orders. It should be as it was a separate program with standards. However, if I am out on Sundays I’m more open. No cash, no alcohol. Dash mart pay is low and too many miles, market remains over saturated with (new dashers) they stand out. It’s still a do more for less. Don’t see base $ changing, but they can do more to push tips..by educating users-the suggested scale hurts. Thank god for regular service users and good tippers who respect drivers work. My market(Toledo )is steady and I work it like a business and don’t accept ever offer. We must understand it’s a side hustle and adapt to the apps or walk away.

[@YourDriverMike]

Appreciate you sharing those details. I do feel like you really need to know how to squeeze the profit out of these apps because they're not giving away easy money anymore. Each app can be optimized in certain ways. I also like Preferences I do feel like it gives me more control versus keeping everything on.

[@jamiemichelle1291]

I'm about the same... 4yrs. I moved they didn't let me in the market for a year then they opened the floodgates... I'm finding other work DD sucks

[@richardreinertson1335]

Been DoorDashing for four years. Putting in longer hours, making $800 to $900 per week on Platinum. I take a lot of shop and deliver orders, but i avoid high item counts without commensurate pay. I'll keep doing this as long as they let me and i can keep making this much money.

[@xbackwitit2899]

And you work 100 hours a week to make that

[@xerowolf4242]

If you don't mind answering, how many hours do you work per week to make that? And not just the active hours. The total dash hours. And is that after subtracting for fuel money and wear and tear on your vehicle as well?

[@YourDriverMike]

Also curious how's your pay per mile and per pay hour? Glad it's working for you. What percent of offers are NOT worth it since you need to retain 70-80% AR for Platinum?

[@patricethorpe9430]

Where do you live? Do you have a personal limit for shop orders? Economically I don’t make money when there are over 10 items so I decline those orders.

[@richardreinertson1335]

I work 50 hours per week. Gas expenses are a given, I don't need to quibble about that. I just get on with it, and it's working so far. When it stops working I'll stop doing it. My per hour gross is not great, around $17. After gas expense it's less than minimum wage, but it's a better life than working in fast food. Ya gotta have your priorities.

[@RU-HDD-4-HVN]

Okay, copy and spread this far and wide for food delivery drivers. How about giving the delivery driver a mandatory .25 cents minimum per minute of order waiting times alongside of the original offer? If you have to wait more than just a pick up and go then you should be paid to wait for the order to be made ready for delivery. Meaning if you wait one minute extra time add .25 cents if you wait 4 minutes add $1.00....... wait 8 minutes? add $2.00 to the offer standard minimum. The longer we wait the more we get paid.....we are waiting for free and to our bottom line crashing further into poverty level. When they see what's really going on to the drivers they will correct the wait times either from the restaurant or delivery app offer timing. They already know we are waiting for free peeps!!!! If it's going to cost someone then it should not be the delivery drivers. Spread this thought and idea far and wide..... make it go viral!!!

[@benedictquagraine9722]

Oh they know. They just don't care because you are paying for that time...and making huge losses

[@RU-HDD-4-HVN]

@@benedictquagraine9722 Which is why I made the comment in the first place...thanks for playing.

[@christi104]

Great idea - thank you. I especially like the idea of making these restaurants more accountable. There’s many places I decline picking up from because the food is never ready. I’ve even had one place where the employee was honest and said his manager told them that our orders are low priority. My time is valuable and it sucks to have to wait after pick up time expires. Our customers have ordered ahead of time and deserve better (as we do).

[@RU-HDD-4-HVN]

@@christi104 Bingo!

[@tamarah8092]

They need to send people from corporate out dashing, and requited to take every offer for 8 hours! Watch how quick they'd run back to their desk job!

[@nighthawk8412]

Don't focus so much on total items with Shop & Deliver. The reason being that you can often see orders with multiple quantities of one item (like 10 individually wrapped jerky sticks) or orders that have a lot of items down one aisle (like baking soda, flour, baking powder, powdered sugar, vanilla extract, chocolate chips, frosting, etc). That'll easily bump up the item count, but you will not be running down multiple aisles and you'll get done with the order pretty fast.

[@YourDriverMike]

I've also suggested they break down items vs units like Instacart, would help a lot when deciding

[@mtn7224]

Yeah but can you see those items before accepting the offer

[@martinmi5]

Could also be 10 cases of water 💦

[@chrisciampo4551]

I would like to see a ‘choice’ widget for the size of the items you can physically get in your ride with no penalty decline!

[@ericwolfe8119]

I accepted a shop and pay last week for 1 item. It showed in the app that it was a container of rust solvent. What it did not show was that it was a 50 gallon barrel at 7 pounds per gallon... a little under 400 pounds total.

[@rudeman777]

Yes, I drive a Honda Accord and dd sent me to academy to pickup an basketball hoop (the whole thing) like that's going to fit in my car

[@rarasheruemakhet2249]

Door dash has tons of money to be made it’s how you value yourself as an individual interest first why are You doing door dash? Money! But it requires self motivation customer service work ethics that you apply to a normal job but you have to remember you are a Contractor you are in control of the agreement don’t let negative aspects hinder your progress door dash still has the hidden features where you are rewarded by loyalty and they know who loyal based on your stats. Keep up the good work Mike you are my 2nd best creator always show the positive sides and never bias thanks 🙏

[@YourDriverMike]

Appreciate the kind words! Yes it's about optimization or maximize profit!

[@datazndood]

I can’t turn off shop and deliver in my account. DD says there’s a shortage of qualified shoppers in my area, yeah right. They are just locking down the ones dumb enough to do it. In fairness, some orders are extremely easy and good money but half the time it’s 24 pack waters and 12 packs of sodas and produce they don’t want to sift through. Used to be more than a dollar per item but each week goes down and down.

[@rainick]

You can still report your card as missing or stolen right?

[@nuckin1]

I shut off both shop and deliver and alcohol dashes long ago....

[@davidwestgate9167]

Had a shop and deliver with 50 items and miles to drive. Pay was not there. Time spent on this order I hate to know how many restaurant orders I missed out on. Pay was not worth the time or miles. Turned off shop and deliver. Not to mention time you have to spend when an item is out of stock

[@Budsandsuds75]

I've turned on COD and found that if the order is lower than 30 dollars then it's a no tip order and not worth taking.

[@dansemacabre6515]

I hate COD. Nothing is more aggravating than coming face-to-face with a nontipping garbage human

[@YourDriverMike]

Hm may be true my Pizza Hut COD -$21.39 cash collected it says...$0.00 tip. But wouldn't DD always put $0.00 because they don't know how much the customer is tipping in cash?

[@Superman_305]

Door dash has converted me because I'm on the door dash train their system is a hell of alot easier than uber cheats.

[@YourDriverMike]

Dasher Rewards? What level are you and how is the paying looking? Glad it's working for you

[@debbiehughes48]

I dashed for almost 8 years, it was a good ride but now I only dash 10 hours a week for a little extra, I use to pay all my bills on the pay! I can’t make but $10 an hour sometimes less than that. I hate that to, I’ve really loved it. I also went through 2 new cars!

[@patricethorpe9430]

I’m in San Antonio area and customers are not tipping. I’m getting more orders with $0 tips. DD is doing much better with base pay. When I started 6 years ago I made $20-30/hr. annual income was $25-30,000. I averaged 30 hours a week. I am now struggling to make $10/hr. I’m so disappointed that I need to get a $15/hr job at Target as an in-store shopper to fulfill pickup orders. DD needs to market their drivers better to customers. There should be a minimum drivers’ tip based on miles that customers will have to pay when the distance is over 5 miles.

[@SlammedSeries]

They need to put a leash on customers like they do on drivers. Put gratuity pay on these orders because im tired of no tips and bad tips

[@teesulli833]

Makes sense robot deliveries are more complicated. Dropoff are not a one size fits all. Hospitals, colleges, high rise apts, office buildings, parks, etc. make it definitely more complicated.

[@tjc6901]

Hey Mike. Love your videos as I am a new dasher. I have an issue with the Delivery by times DoorDash puts on an order. Some of them are impossible to meet. What do you think? Do I need to stress over those deliver by times?

[@VitoldoErickson]

Thanks for the analysis! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). Could you explain how to move them to Binance?

[@jessekummerer6049]

I tried shop and delivery till I got a 20 item order at Sally Beauty. That was just too much for me. I couldn’t find anything

[@petemanning1768]

I did it for 2 days and "lost" my red card. Spent 20 minutes looking for a specific greeting card in Walgreens and gave up.

[@johnhamrick1051]

What about time with very heavy traffic. Yesterday I had a delivery that took me from one zone to another. One of the two primary roads is closed due to road/sewer contruction. I went through signal lights that took 3 and 4 cycles to get through. I texted the customer to let them know that I was fighting through heavy traffic. Up deliver I got a warning for a very late delivery. I did call driver service to lodge a coumplaint. What else can one do?

[@TheClubbinator]

Nope, won’t do shop & delivery or alcohol. Takes too much time and not enough pay. Heading to the restaurant for a delivery.

[@joanneglispie9394]

My biggest issue with all of the delivery apps is tips. I stopped doing shop & deliver with DD because customers felt that someone else was doing all of the work and that they did not need to pay that person in the form of a tip. Until DD mandates that the customer tips for shop & deliver, they can go pound sand.

[@tjofgrn]

I'm in my third year with DD. Just about 4 hours per week during breakfast and lunch hours. I like shop and deliver orders a lot. These usually pay more in my market. I do prefer shopping for items myself. That way, I know exactly the condition of the things I'm delivering.

[@tamarah8092]

Doordash since January 2019. Multi-apping for 3 years.

[@GoFastJames]

The problems I have as well as others. DD does not seem like they will fix things, some of the things I question the Legal aspects. For most gig apps support for the most part sucks. Yes we can all get someone that tries but most can only do so much and why most the time it takes us bunch of times to get to a good support agent. I think DD and others need to figure out a way to give idea of pay for doing x amount of time and or orders like in the way of giving us true amounts or good range that make sense to drivers in the real world lol. Like example if they said work this 3 hrs for $80-120 & 30-60 miles, kind of like the new dash link but still doing the normal deliveries. If it was more like this I would not care about the one that dont tip or miles given that it makes sense to do it. Any way I find in my area makes more sense for now to do EBT. Along with doing spark sams orders that make sense and pop up.

[@757bgully]

Been dashing for 5 years

[@phyllisk7203]

Saw your video, and my husband likes shopping for Wegmans. He said it's very simple. And he doesn't mind other stores except Big lots because they never have the inventory to shop for. But thanks for all you do. 🎉🎉

[@YourDriverMike]

Appreciate you watching!

[@yoji8130]

good to hear about the autonomous that our jobs will still be in tack

[@nocturnus6]

You missed one, DD is trying out a new pilot program in select areas, Silver and gold can only schedule 3 days out. Well actually, silver can only schedule 2 days out, and gold 3 days out. Platinum can schedule 6 days out. I'm seeing this on youtube and reddit, I can't confirm, but I have seen screenshots of the email people received.

[@dannychapman456]

Went from a referral reward of 20 a piece a month ago to 900.00 or me, 600.00 for the person I refer. In my area, almost every single day is peak pay of 1-3.00. The new dasher rewards program hit several months ago - not long after the peak pay exploded in the area and I saw MANY new drivers - not many of the old timers at all. W/e the reason - may be a combo of things - they are really trying to get more drivers out there - (holidays are a part of it) I had over 4k deliveries, got hired on by spark, and haven't used DD in months.

[@erikpeggywilson4726]

My husband gets pick up Grocery sometimes and it's less money with more groceries verses going in and actually shopping. He gets way more money shopping and most times they add more money.

[@kylebiggs6792]

shop and pay are basically the only good orders anymore in nw vegas

[@bradness33]

I do shop & deliver even though I don't like shopping but the pay is much better and most of the time it's Petsmart/Petco/Partycity/Target and Walgreens orders with no more than 10-11 items. I don't see much change unless they bump up the base pay which they absolutely should.

[@rwm1980]

i live next to dashmart and it is a constant flow of orders til 2 am, most the time the pay is belpw 1 dollar per mile, but uf in headed to the city i can usually catch a dash so i get paid to drive there sinve im going there anyeays

[@michaelsammis8660]

Hey Mike why don't you do a story on how doordash is taking away all our rights as an independent contractor with all these little rules and regulations that if we don't follow them we can't get any calls or we can't even schedule and how many lawsuits they have right now because of it how come you don't ever do a story on that I think you're in doordash his pocket ever since they reinstated you did you sign something to say that you wouldn't say anything bad about them anymore?

[@YourDriverMike]

Nope not sponsored by DD, I even talked with them about getting my referral code back and I declined to sign their agreement as it would give them potential rights to ANY of my content that mentions DD. They said that clause has never been invoked but no way I'm risking that lol. Also far as regulations all of these apps have had backlash from gig workers/lawsuits etc. Simply put I'm not a lawyer and I'm not well versed enough in the law to speak on that. Should anything change with regulations etc I can report on it in that context.

[@Jonjon66689]

I never do shop and deliver because it doesn’t pay well. I also stay away from dashmarts in my area again those orders never pay well.

[@xerowolf4242]

I see a huge problem with autonomous delivery anyway. Good luck getting minimum wage fast food workers to now have to stop what they are doing and load an autonomous vehicle with the order. That's something I don't even think the fast food companies will allow without doordash agreeing to pay those employee's wages.

[@sierra-legacyavila]

I've been dashing for over six months now, 5-8 hours a day.

[@josephperez255]

Doordash sucks now so many people on the platform

[@jeffreynelson4149]

Uber eats is owning doordash in the shop and deliver and the pick up and drop deliveries in my area. I am getting close to not needing to run doordash any longer. After the tiers on doordash uber is getting busier and busier here.

[@josephlownes5138]

I totally agree with that

[@paulricks9385]

If you breakdown your expenses doordash pays absolutely zero for your car usage they should have their own fleet and try to maintain that and see what the expense would be. They think because you get to write it off your taxes that that's paying you not the case we are wearing out our vehicles for zero profit

[@LTJDFW]

i have been dashing for years and i do not do shop at all because im not going to wast more time and pay not much at all . if they whant to do what Albertson does thats is us showing up picking up and loading that i will do just going going to do the shoping.

[@PattiLane-h6d]

I’m all for load and go. I don’t think shopping is worth it. I don’t want to shop. I turned it off

[@FeelinFroggy]

We need the base pay to be higher then $5 and if you have to go out of your zone it should be double also alcohol runs should pay more since there is so much at risk.

[@xerowolf4242]

Doordash's base pay is just barely enough to cover fuel costs, insurance, and wear and tear on a cheap vehicle. Therefore, the tips you get are the only actual income you make. Relying on the customer to OPTIONALLY pay their employee's wages is absurd. Base pay needs to be raised to a minimum of $6 for anything 4 miles or under and an extra $1.50 per mile after that.

[@jamied8598]

Four years. Three and a half of them Top Dasher and Platinum Driver. Have dropped to Silver in 3 months.

[@richardmckinney6708]

I don't see how it would work in cold areas in the winter time. I live in wyoming and the high winds wouldn't work

[@Talzoid]

You just need to know your tolerances and the market you are dashing in. I live in Minnesota and I dash on an ebike, Did it last winter and I'll do it again this one (just not in a blizzard)

[@legendvalley]

Idk I can't say it's on and off here. I don't use it much anymore just on my down or around time like Roadie. The owner is a cheap freak. Stock is kind of scary or could be good. As you can see, analysts are not all in agreement on the stock's future, but the range of estimates is still reasonably narrow, which could suggest that the outcome is not totally unpredictable

[@WICKEDPENNY]

The pay is so inconsistent for Wegmans , I can get 16 items for 14.75 low miles and I’ll do it , then I’ll get 3 in a row 20 items for 8.75 Like really who and the hell would do that, lowers my A/R , and is not fair at all they should be ashamed at themselves. Also so tired of the low pay for long miles because of a 5.00 tip, the manipulation should be illegal. 8.50 for 14 miles , tip was 6.50 so for real they offer 2.00 for 28 miles round trip. Such a joke

[@Bit01]

Doortrash ruined grocery pickup orders by lowering the pay to the point that nobody would pick them up, so the store employees ended up running them.

[@Sparkletz]

I have been working for doordash for a while but recently I stopped because it is not worth it anymore and again depend on your area but my area not worth.

[@KristyHamby-t9i]

Door dash base pay is crap; I like instacart much better.

[@knowone-sts2263]

Doordash offers their drivers crap pay. Where do YOU think that leads ??

[@legendvalley]

TY

[@michaelmorris3459]

i do what I do when it becomes nonprofitable I'm out and honestly it's pretty close now

[@TRANSPORTKING1988]

I turn my shop and deliver options off on my app, if the store don't have the product they punish the driver with a lousy shopping score, for me it was an easy fix just turn it off

[@luchiano.gamingtv.4580]

Shop deliver I only turn it on after 9pm because the orders from cvs and Walgreens tend to be worthed I have turned off during the day because I don’t like when they send me to super market the pharmacy’s are easy and usually high paying

[@billyray8888]

I would love to have the opportunity to make money on doordash the only problem is I'm on a waiting list I live in New Jersey and I think it's terrible

[@buttabing9936]

HELP ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ Has anyone Dashed for 4 hours on a scheduled Door Dash and not received 1 order in that time?

[@comptegoogle511]

Well those drone will need pilotes and someone to hook the lunch on it...

[@evette3279]

I haven't even started yet.🧐🧐🧐

[@buttabing9936]

‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️Help‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ 4 hours Dashing with no pings 😮😮

[@dannychapman456]

Nothing about an increase in actual DoorDash base pay.

[@nuckin1]

you wont hear that from Tony. He would evade the questions like that just like Kamala did...

[@VeronicaAdamsJokeStar]

Instead of working the streets by myself I had to get a pimp and now delivering for a pizza place

[@paulricks9385]

Doordash in smaller areas not going to hold up too well drivers cannot make a profit doordash is like a non-profit organization

[@michellediamond2551]

Dashmart orders will tank my acceptance rate within a mile.They are all craporters.I've been doing this since twenty twenty one full time

[@chrismahoney7364]

Doordashers are staying on longer because there making less money

[@michaelsaab4610]

Dash mart customer in Los Angeles downtown 10% only good 90% trash customer and you have to take 2$ add on delivery.

[@larryzan8942]

They will need a very intelligent real bot navigate thru tricky apt and homes carry groceries up stairs read confusing instructions deal with rude customers to go deliver a leave at door if not forget full autonomy delivery

[@absolutecrypto95]

Sounds worse then minimum wage people food not ready sounds like Door Dash needs to improve instead of cheating drivers

[@DowlWatcher]

q3 2023?

[@Chetta316]

They will loose so much money with the robots. It’s going to be funny watching cars smash a bot.

[@jayre872]

Uber pays 6 dollar for 1 hour 6 mins far delivery. These apps r scams

[@BigL718]

😂lol how do i hear this call

[@jamied8598]

DD is old and played out. The app is crap and the driver support is awful. Once the life and blood of my fiance is the last place I go now.

[@Greg76131]

Please stop using the word space