All Evidence in Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt’s Child Abuse Case

[@OnyxMoneyDrops]

Let’s just take a moment to appreciate Ruby refusing to speak without a lawyer present and then leaving a diary documenting all her crimes. Genius

[@annikkirahko6714]

😂😂😂😂 For real!!! She just wrote it down for them instead

[@teresathayn5170]

Thank Goodness!!!

[@kathybuttsarnold3534]

Definitely. Smart of her to ask for an attorney, but I think we know the real reason she decided to plea instead of go through a trial.

[@sahie]

It’s arguably better evidence, too, since it speaks to her state of mind at the time of the crimes vs. after arrest and where she could say her words were being twisted. It’s completely unhinged, but I know people who speak very similarly (but luckily didn’t go to this extreme!).

[@jenniferpadilla6672]

I think she was so cult minded that she truly didn’t think she was breaking the law sick sick person who does journals I think if I try to get like two days and that’s it I couldn’t even journal my food. It takes too much time.

[@Gina-up4nk]

Did Kevin ever even ask if his daughter Eve was ok? No he asks about his wife. Lock him up too. They are monsters.

[@annikkirahko6714]

I have no clue how he managed to get away with no charges

[@MariaCourtney-mp1wi]

Just like the useless father of Timothy Ferguson, he sent him to be murdered by a couple of monsters. He should also be charged. What's happened to our MEN....

[@kodigemma3359]

Not all of his interactions are in this evidence dump. I’m quite sure that the DA was not going to release things that were not directly relevant to the evidence against Ruby and Jodi. And CPS had custody, not the police. The conversations with CPS will never be released.

[@jaclo3112]

@MariaCourtney not sure what you mean by "what's happening to our men?" Men have been abandoning their children for as long as human history has been recorded. It isn't nothing new.

[@rotem1437]

I don't know if I believe him or not... it's hard for me to understand how he was absent from those kids life for a whole year... But it seems like he really didn't know about the horrible abuse

[@paularose9407]

When the husband was asked "How do you discipline your kids?" and the response is "I'm not going to answer that" ...... RED FLAG !!!

[@jessicaeaton3183]

YES!!!!

[@gatdemun]

🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@virginia9620]

Missed hearing that.... you are right Red Flag. Um wasn't he on board when they sent Chad to camp. I think that was 4 years ago.

[@dzeklakovic7568]

Pretty sure he knew what was going on. Also it's odd that he had a verbal agreement with Ruby that he couldn't see the kids or that he didn't have any contact with them for over a year

[@junejune1031]

@@dzeklakovic7568 he totally knew what was happening. Jodi was notorious in that community. Everyone knew her tactics. He knew. The husband is such a total loser.

[@battlerudee]

The fact that she was even already on the phone with her attorney and reacted that way…she knew he escaped… guilty

[@kendallneason3645]

Yes she knew. She’d been out in her car looking for him. A cop pulled her over and she said she was looking for her friend’s son. The cop (who knew about RF and that he was otw to a hospital) told Jodi to go home and the police would find him. That’s why she went home and called her attorney! She knew she and Ruby were in trouble. When the police got to her house and she got dragged out despite being on the phone with her lawyer and refusing to let the cops in, that was the only satisfactory outcome thus far. I hope they checked her phone and tablet both of which she was holding when she answered her giant door.

[@vickylewis8558]

@@kendallneason3645 Why did the cop not arrest here there and then?

[@swiftiesarevetterthanbarbs]

EXACTLY 😭😭 and thats so scary to me omg..

[@kendallneason3645]

@@vickylewis8558 The police were trying to locate all the Franke children especially the two sisters that Russel thought might be at Jodi’s house. They ended up finding Eve, Russel’s little sister, 9 years old, emaciated and clearly terrified too. So Russel saved himself and Eve. Ruby and Jodi were planning on buying a farm in Arizona where they wouldn’t have neighbors nearby so they could exorcise the children and the District Attorney said the children would likely have died had that happened. Jodi already had moved much of her things into storage and Ruby was planning on renting out the Franke home despite Kevin claiming not to know this. Ruby also cleaned out all her kids bank accounts and her and Kevin’s checking account partially too. She had a bag at Jodi’s house with $85,000 in it which her lawyer has. Despicable. The police had to gather enough evidence and convince Eve to join her brother at the hospital. Doctors put R & E on a 3 day hold to treat their sores and starvation before releasing them to DCF.

[@SophieHart-lx2ue]

That the first thing I thought

[@gelseminun]

The fact that complete strangers showed more emotion and compassion than their OWN MOTHER is heart breaking 💔

[@fizalex6612]

and more emotion than their own father

[@IrishHoopers]

She didn't just hear about this, she did this to them. She's the perpetrator not some innocent witness or bestander. She's the child abuser here

[@icicle8384]

religious psychosis

[@strwberipunkin]

And father

[@MuslimahNefertari]

People been watching this lady abuse her kids for years, her being emotionless shouldn’t be surprising honestly. The only time I’ve seen her generally upset was when they showed her crying when talking about how much money she use to make on her KZbin channel.

[@mak2488]

The dad is 100% complicit and needs to be in jail.

[@RaeRaeOR]

He’s thanking his lucky stars he wasn’t indicted. He should have been. There’s no way he didn’t know what was going on and he did nothing to stop it.

[@dawnb3194]

Agree.

[@bthalsey5943]

1 MILLION PERCENT. POS

[@DarkKnightBruce]

🧐What did he do? Where's your evidence? M🤡R🤡N!!!🙄

[@nancyfahey7518]

But he's a "bad" husband too. According to him he sinned and needed to repent. He needed mental help too. They convinced him of his evil ways.

[@allanw7247]

The little girl broke my heart. Looking at the pizza knowing that she is not allowed to eat. So much evil in this world.

[@lovepet4565]

Im starting to really see mormonism as a cult

[@HeyTexasItsMe]

😢😢😢😢

[@debbiemartin2026]

Especially in the cult they follow.

[@lovepet4565]

@@debbiemartin2026 i just posted that and it was removed?

[@the-finn]

Right! It sure doesn't look like Jodi ever missed a meal.

[@crystalstigall9778]

The elderly gentleman didn't realize the situation at first, he went from what do you want, to being in tears when he realized what was going on with the boy, he's a hero in my book helping the boy until the police could step in and help❤

[@callmeishmael2415]

And he won't give his name or interviews which I find extraordinaryin this day and age, he just said he got R the help he needed thats all the thanks he needs

[@katyroekle682]

Kevin says, “ I wish I was a better husband.” What about a better father??

[@JameeMiller]

THIS 100%. He is absolutely revolting & should also be behind bars.

[@Shifter22]

Exactly!

[@gypsyjanelastname6000]

He seemed more concerned about Ruby than the kids. He has obviously been emotionally abused by the two women, but still.

[@RosemaryGrow]

Grow a spine Kevin!!

[@SumBuddee_]

I feel like she did psychological damage to him too, but yeah it’s sad he only cares about ruby and not his abused children

[@danielberg7644]

They should be in prison for life. They took the lives of these children away from them. The psychological damage they did will affect them for life.

[@PassiveAgressive319]

They are likely to get 2 years, unless the parole board says otherwise

[@m1ntyuu]

@@PassiveAgressive319no lol they’ve already been convicted and in jail for 30 years

[@lindzbreezyoh]

​@@m1ntyuuUP TO. There's no guarantee they'll serve 30

[@m1ntyuu]

@@PassiveAgressive319correction, they’re both in jail for 60 years

[@kevinvassago]

​@@m1ntyuuNot true!! She was sentenced to four 1-15 yr convictions. So 4-60 yrs total. But in Utah, its up to the parole board to decide her amount of time. She'll get credit for the time she's spent in jail, plus credit for any programs she joins in prison, all of which could cut her time in half. They may deem her fit after four yrs, but if she plays her cards right that could get cut in half, especially since prisons are notorious for being lenient on women. She may only serve 2 yrs. I hope the Utah prison board takes the severity of the case into account and won't let that happen though. But only time will tell.

[@godisjihyo3615]

he has the audacity to say 'you took my kids from me' SIR YOU LEFT YOUR KIDS FOR OVER A YEAR

[@KaitlynQuinn-xb9ty]

He actually didn’t. Ruby told him to leave at the advice of Jodi’s. There’s a podcast about the case you should listen to that explains the marriage and also the partnership between Ruby and Jodi!

[@JacqMarchetti]

@@KaitlynQuinn-xb9tyRegardless, he left and never attempted to contact them or the police! He is just as much to blame!

[@kaylahall1219]

He abandoned those kids

[@thedoctor1350]

@@KaitlynQuinn-xb9ty he did abandon them and never attempted to get legal custody. He doesn’t even need it bc he was there when they were being abused BEFORE Jodi showed up.

[@Aaakeith]

@@KaitlynQuinn-xb9tywhat’s the podcast?

[@rachell9167]

That neighbour and his wife have completely restored my optimism for humanity. So unbelievably kind and human. They recognized the reality of the situation immediately and did all the right things. I have also never seen such compassion from police and emergency response personnel. They did everything right. Makes me proud to pay taxes for such quality service people. Thank you to those men and women.

[@kieranjarvis6935]

Not really just normal

[@dastreet615]

Hey, I love nosy neighbors!

[@mcpeewee68]

​@@kieranjarvis6935 There is no "normal"

[@Joyceeee_94]

@@mcpeewee68 of course it is. They just showed humanity…

[@mcpeewee68]

@Joyceeee_94 Personally I think they were very kind. Someone tried to say that they were NOT kind, and simply normal. These days kindness & humanity isn't all that normal

[@dorothymiddaugh6234]

After seeing these videos and finding out what Ruby wrote in her journal, these two women should have been charged with attempted murder. The fact that Ruby pushed her own sons head under water and held it down, was on purpose. These two women should never see the light of day.

[@TCLindasUtube2009]

Totally agree! Those woman should be in for life. Mr. Franke shouldbe charged with neglect.

[@zoesimpson4680]

Where is the other kids

[@kaylahall1219]

@@zoesimpson4680I believe older siblings who have been fighting for them are in custody and maybe some aunts. Not sure. Hopefully safe

[@dorothymiddaugh6234]

​@@kaylahall1219the two oldest are on their own, but the two teenagers that are under 18, I'm assuming in child protective custody. They were originally at the home of the Connections leader, Pam Boetcher. I believe they were taken away from her home to protective custody.

[@zoesimpson4680]

@@peachespulaski5981 100% them poor kids wouldve ended up dead especially if they wouldve made it to arizona like they wa planning to and what kind of father doesnt have contact with his kids when no orders or agreements was in place by the courts saying he couldnt see his kids this story between the mum dad and jodi just doesnt add up for me i think the father is more involved than hes letting on i think he knows exactly what was happening

[@Saebub]

The neighbour lady who fed and praised R and tried to distract him showed him more kindness than he had felt in a long time. I’m so heartbroken for all those kids

[@lisakatz7887]

The way she knelt down to be at his eye level and patted his frail arms. The way she was pacing back and forth, frantic to get him food, water and waiting anxiously for the paramedics- 1000% Protective Momma Energy!!! 🙏💪👊👊🙌🙌

[@hoileongdai6956]

R?

[@alifardoe-jones8849]

They are both incredible kind people, so glad those were the angels that got him and his siblings help 🥰

[@robot_spider]

The speed at which the neighbor goes from "What do you want?" to "This boy needs help immediately" is awesome. It's so obvious he was in trouble.

[@flannelpillowcase6475]

i bet he'll regret starting out talking so judgmental and annoyed to that poor kid for the rest of his life

[@TinkletitsMcGee]

@@flannelpillowcase6475I bet he doesn’t regret a damn thing. He did the best that he could and he saved a whole bunch of kids.

[@robot_spider]

@@flannelpillowcase6475 I get it though. In our neighborhood, we get almost non-stop door-to-door sales people, kids selling things, collecting empty cans/bottles, looking for donations, selling subscriptions... Every time someone knocks on the door, my defenses go up immediately. At least he was able to recognize it wasn't a typical encounter.

[@Paola11852]

@@flannelpillowcase6475Why???????

[@lizliz4186]

​@@Paola11852because being so gruff might have actually scared the kid away from asking for help.

[@MRodriguezzable]

It irritates me to no end the fact that, after learning the condition and state of their two youngest kids, Kevin still has the audacity to say "I wish I was a better HUSBAND". NOT FATHER. HUSBAND. SIR

[@lynnb4348]

He seemed entirely brainwashed. Just like the children who were afraid to speak. Just like the little boy who said he was tied up to help him.

[@themoonisjustthebackofthesun]

I couldn't be a police officer, seeing her "smug" face would have provoked something irrational in me

[@robincurtis8661]

Heck yes

[@MariaCourtney-mp1wi]

Me to

[@Nonna0228]

Same thoughts here

[@DrTinyToff]

Same

[@Biscuitsmama]

Oh absolutely

[@Stormstorm1]

It took EF 4 hours to finally allow paramedics to help her leave the closet as she was so petrified! RF is a hero, truly.

[@DeeKay-66]

Yes he is! The fact that he tried to escape once before and was severely punished it’s amazing he tried again. Thankfully he did! He was very direct and honest with Ruby (according to what she wrote in her journal). Despite the continued severe consequences RF continued to tell Ruby from time to time what he thought. Like when he said he’d rather have water than her as a mother. Although he was literally dying of thirst I’m sure he truly knew Ruby was the evil one. I hope nobody ever EVER pushes those kids to reconcile with Ruby!

[@mst3kharris]

She’s a hero too: she found the courage to walk out. ❤️

[@amandasailsbury1878]

I'm glad they let it be Eve's decision to go with them. They were patient and kind, something she had never experienced.

[@Runner8617]

I think it took her that long because the first cop told her "Jodi is with us, why don't you come with us?" 🤦 She may have thought that they were all on Jodi's side and we're going to punish her. Only AFTER the female firefighter came and told her, "we got your brother help too" only after she heard THAT she got up and walked out, knowing that they were there to help her. The first cop did NOT know what to say and wasn't the best communicator with traumatized children. He is not a psychologist, obviously.

[@DogLover_365]

@@Runner8617 omg your right !!! Poor kid. 😭

[@kimberlys8422]

That poor boy was a SKELETON. Having the strength to break free and run for help... he's a hero.

[@SGaux]

How on earth did he escape? One day, I hope that we hear his story.

[@kimberlys8422]

It reminds me of the girl who escaped from the Turpins.@@SGaux

[@bryantaulbee2689]

He probably knew it was now or never, he wouldn't survive much longer if he didn't get out.

[@jenni-y3d]

@@bryantaulbee2689 right if he failed the outcome wouldn't have been any different than if he had stayed

[@dawnb3194]

But hardly the strength to knock on the door 💔

[@cloroxbleach945]

them peeling the "duck tape" and it was his skin gave me chills

[@ellabellaboom4537]

Timestamps?

[@cloroxbleach945]

@@ellabellaboom453715:24 somewhere around there

[@ellaroseinglis5832]

@@ellabellaboom4537 18:05 i believe

[@bia.miller]

I was so angry when Jodi complained that she had a problem with her shoulder when she was being put in the police car. Yet she didn’t show R and E any sympathy or mercy when she and Ruby inflicted so much pain on them. There should be no mercy on these 2 evil monsters! 👿

[@TheMouse-gc9ft]

Yeah when the kids complain of pain they’re privileged, spoiled, weak, and evil, but when she has a minor ache it’s oh wait I can’t be handcuffed… such hypocrisy

[@biancaravizza1328]

Unfortunately they are probably gonna be treated better in prison than they teated the kids because even in prison there is this thing called HUMAN RIGHTS wich Jody and Ruby totally fotgot about when it came to the kids 😔

[@Stormstorm1]

She conveniently has her attorney on the phone when LE comes to her door. She knows damn well what her and Ruby were doing to those poor children was evil and wrong!

[@teresathayn5170]

​@@Stormstorm1 Yup! That's why they hid it! 😡

[@jray5907]

They should have made them tighter, I can't believe her audacity to complain after we see the condition of the kids.

[@elkeinath]

Kevin wants his kids, but never asked how his kids were before he asked how his wife was. Wow.

[@eb6060]

Didn’t ask about his daughter after being told of his son’s condition. Unless they cut it for some reason- I haven’t seen a cut of that video where he asks about E.

[@MonaBeasley-p6x]

He had not seen his kids for about a year and then all of a sudden he misses his kids and he loves his wife. BS!

[@mysticmama_3692]

​@@MonaBeasley-p6xhow do you know? Did you talk to him that year? Have you ever talked to this man? Do you even know him?

[@edgegymnastics8409]

Because ultimately he only cares about himself.

[@edgegymnastics8409]

@@eb6060I said the same. He doesn’t care.

[@kassandraahuero7962]

Eve was so afraid to move abused dogs in shelters act the same way ruby shaved her hair these poor children act like concentration camp victims ! These monsters deserve to be in prison for 30 years!

[@lovepet4565]

The so called "daddy" is the biggest loser And so weak

[@teresathayn5170]

We should all write to the parole board BEFORE each hearing! The public stance matters too!

[@McKaylaTaylor15]

They should be in jail for life

[@mrasic3507]

​@@lovepet4565That DAD NEEDS BE INVESTIGATED...... He's there FOR THE MARITAL ASSETS!! He's lost his job at BYU QUITE SOMETIME AGO...... IN HE LIES TO POLICE DURING INTERVIEWS..... KEVIN HAS 2 COMPLETE OPPOSITE STORIES 😮😖 During the interview upon learning about his 2 youngest being hospitalized, HE DOESN'T ASK ABOUT THEM OR WANT TO SEE THEM........ HE JUST CARRIED ON ABOUT HOW MUCH HE'S WORRIED ABOUT RUBI!!! 😖😖😖😖 INVESTIGATE KEVIN!

[@PrinceCharmingsMom2930]

Life, they should he in prison for life. Ruby was a whack before she met Jodi. This didn’t end well for the two freaks.

[@doradordanielle5746]

I love how comforting the neighbor lady is to him...he probably hadn't felt that kind of affection in a long time!

[@amberslusher9194]

If ever

[@amberslusher9194]

If ever

[@SouthernYankee-32]

The blank stare Ruby gives the cops when they ask questions just makes my blood boil.

[@kellmac]

I just made a comment about that. I think it's a tactic she used to intimidate her kids and thought it might work on the officers.

[@catwoman520]

She thinks she is so superior…

[@bingz8181]

That’s what narcissist do they give you the silent treatment

[@Itskatie873]

Ruby is a narcissist as heart. She makes my blood boil as she throws a adult temper tantrum… she should endure the abuse she gave her children

[@jasonstewart8363]

It was a look of insanity. At best it was like looking a shark in the eye.

[@Nymeria..]

These police officers are absolutely amazing. Instead of forcing her to move which could traumatize her further they sit with her no matter how long she needs and that’s absolutely precious. A group of strangers showing more love patience and empathy towards these kids than their own mother.

[@wendyg.]

EMT said she was going to cry. Officer responded that's why he was wearing shades. Anyone seeing that would cry, except Ruby and Jodi apparently.

[@yeetnama9094]

It's really not helpful for an already traumatized child to see grown adults who are supposed to be sources of strength, sniveling crying and making a bunch of self serving virtue signaling comments about how much they want to cry. Their job is to remain calm cool and collected

[@Havenlina]

@@yeetnama9094 It's not like they actually did it, relax

[@fangirl3086]

Jeez, no wonder you're chronically online. ​@@yeetnama9094

[@marietighe6328]

​​​@@yeetnama9094yeah we all know that. She said it to her colleagues and not in front of the child so whats your point? It's bodycam footage that was entered as evidence so its available for public consumption. its not like she put it on tiktok so no it wasn't VIRTUE SIGNALLING.

[@AB-bf3gk]

@@yeetnama9094 they are humans at the end of the day.. not robots. If seeing this doesn’t break you then you’re evil

[@veniaibinder5895]

The neighbor lady asked if he has peanut allergy, it broke me. She cared more about him than his mother.

[@Cryptoidiom]

If the children are allowed to go back with their father, the system is so broken and is screwing those children. This is utter insanity.

[@goodcatfilms4276]

I think the husband was a victim too, he was brainwashed into thinking he was a bad husband , I know he’s at fault but I have more sympathy for him

[@Redfoxa]

​@@goodcatfilms4276 he knew. He left for a whole year and didn't call the police. While he knew. He only loved his wife didn't care about his kids.

[@nicoled1164]

He could have done things to interfere even if he was forced out And even if he’s brainwashed they don’t need that type of influence anyways in their lives they need someone strong

[@BradyHansen81]

@@goodcatfilms4276 both he and Ruby were complicit in abusing the kids before this happened. Taking the boys bead away for 7 months and forcing them to sleep on a bean bag? That alone is child abuse

[@Olivetree80]

I don't know how he treated them or if it was the same, but he clearly didn't care enough to fight for them

[@MakenzieHallie]

"I have air bnb guests.... you probably scared them to death."....... This is absolutely disgusting.

[@MsCara99]

Right?! The audacity. She's torturing two kids in her basement and all she's worried about is that the cops don't bother her paying guests. Probably worried they'll leave a bad review or ask for a refund.

[@bonnylouwho76]

That got to me as well. That HUGE HOUSE, Air B N B to raise money for what? Just to have it? Possibly plans were thought of to bring more and more children in to torture and keep hidden, possible evil "parents" playing and being indoctrinated on one side, their children being indoctrinated and tortured on the other side? Cult? Oh yes!

[@richardkearney5278]

I would never on a bnb

[@jessicagregg804]

I believe the air b n b guests were Ruby Russell and Eve

[@hannahmclaren9672]

Imagine being a guest and you see that precious little girl being taken out who probably has scoliosis now from the positions she was forced into. I have scoliosis and it's the most painful thing I have ever dealt with. Just beyond disgusting.

[@micahrichards4787]

His kids have been duct-taped, locked up, starved to emaciation, skin dead that's peeling to where they thought it was more tape, under 72-hour hospital supervision, among other things, and he wants to know what's going to happen to his wife! 🤔🤔 Sickening!

[@bonnie_gail]

they were also trafficked

[@victoriagreenfield5781]

HE WASN'T TOLD YET. Watch the video.

[@micahrichards4787]

​​​@@victoriagreenfield5781 The detectives CLEARLY told him everything BEFORE he asked what will happen to his wife (a little past half way thru). YOU WATCH THE VIDEO, THEN LISTEN before barking orders!!

[@cali.girllivinnnevada8]

How does it feel *RUBY?* To have the handcuffs on you instead of your kids!!?

[@jonwest5289]

I doubt she is gonna see this.... 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@cali.girllivinnnevada8]

@@jonwest5289 no….. you don’t say 🤯 It obviously wasn’t meant for her to see!! Time to grow up & use your big kid brain.

[@guliegirl]

I lost it when the neighbor comforted RF and put her hands on his shoulders. Thank goodness for these neighbors answering.

[@OnyxMoneyDrops]

It took guts to walk up to random houses and ask for help. I would be scared that they would bring me back

[@teresathayn5170]

Beautiful normal neighbors!

[@WhiteRabbit89]

​@teresathayn5170 yes💯 😢

[@evoluna3056]

​@@OnyxMoneyDrops I would be too. And he was so thirsty. 😢

[@joellenm1206]

Some other video someone pointed out that the female neighbor asked the boy if he was allergic to anything before she gave him more to eat. The neighbor in 2 seconds with that question demonstrated more care than he had probably received in a long time

[@lizliz4186]

You're told to pick your kids up at the police station. The police officers interview you and ask you if you're aware of the condition of your children. My first reaction is to be concerned about my children with that line of questioning. I would be begging to know if my kids were okay and where they were. Why does this man/dad never asked about his children? Because he knows, he's complicit.

[@GangstarComputerGod]

I would have been losing my mind sitting there. Then again, I can’t imagine going even a day without my kids. This mf’er hasn’t talked to ANY of his is over a year. Real father of the year.

[@SIQmai]

Exactly my thoughts too. Disgusting.

[@karinanderson3239]

I don't understand why Kevin Franke has not been arrested for child abuse

[@ritaw.2607]

Hopefully, they'll build a case against him as well. He's definitely complicit in the abuse of those poor innocent children. He can't claim ignorance for failing to protect those children.

[@kaylahall1219]

Child abandonment at least

[@moringsdaughter]

This case only covered instances in the last few months before the arrest. Kevin wasn't present during that time and there is probably no way of proving if he knew what was happening.

[@moringsdaughter]

​@@kaylahall1219 You can't arrest someone for Child Abandonment for leaving the children with their own mother.

[@nobody8328]

Being a milquetoast isn't illegal.

[@user-hr1ql2fu3f]

Kevin, news flash - looking at a picture of your family on the wall everyday does not constitute taking care of them. You have to put in the time and effort. It is your job to nurture and protect and keep your kids safe. You have to feed them and provide for their needs every single day. You have to be there and take action to do these things. I don’t think you understand what being a dad means. A dad would never go a year+ without seeing their kids, unless the court ordered it, or he was in jail. This is insane! Kevin, you are not ready and in no shape to be a hands on dad. You need some serious help in this department, and you need to not get it from the Mormon church, or anyone affiliated with the Mormon church.

[@mallorym.]

The officer saying " I get that you're scared, I would be too" broke me. 😭 Ugh my heart goes out to those children. As someone who has no chance of having her own kids someday, this whole case makes me scream and cry.

[@kaylahall1219]

I’m sorry for your loss

[@harritaylor8320]

the world is so unfair. i’m really sorry that you won’t be able to have your own children. monsters like this should have that fate, not you. i hope you’ll be able to find happiness in whatever you do with your life.

[@Bullshotinbutt]

To the cops who waited 4 hours for the little girl to get the courage to move, bravo. That is compasion at its finest.

[@zippermonster9596]

@@Bullshotinbutt YESSS! That was the very first moment to formulate courage, on her very first steps to autonomy and freedom. The fact they let HER take those steps was a great way to establish a strong foundation where she could continue to push forward with her bravery. Such a difference between "she was removed" and "she eventually got up and walked out on her OWN"

[@margretsims1322]

And the way the Officer got down on the floor with him speaks volumes........

[@ladygreenlife]

I absolutely love the neighbors. The gentleman tearing up was so heartwarming, but now I see the lady running around like an actual caring mother figure, giving the child food. Thank goodness they were around.

[@embro2.0]

Yes, checking if he had any allergies to nuts even ❤

[@RRNerd]

Probably the most amount of love he had ever experienced in his little life. Broke me listening to the neighbour on the phone 😢

[@ladygreenlife]

@@embro2.0 I know! ❤‍🩹

[@TiffTheTyrant]

@@embro2.0and she also told him to eat slowly. Gave him a banana and peanut butter. Easy things to digest.

[@lilliandozier9604]

That little boy is too cute, he looks like a skinny blond angel ! 😥

[@kristyphillips730]

The fact she was on the phone to her attorney before the police knocked on her door is enough 4 me..

[@whimsygrove9971]

This is the first thing I thought of too! She knew she was going to be in big trouble. During the interrogation she didn't even know her attorney's name. Obviously she wasn't calling him just for a friendly chat. She's complicit in everyday and SHE KNEW IT. Horrible human being.

[@sucelypadilla6978]

​@whimsygrove9971 of course she was manipulating them she Is a devil.

[@zeddybear1379]

I have to say, I'm very impressed by the way the police and everyone handled this, very polite and professional.

[@RJ-nm6qt]

Jodi and Ruby should have been charged for attemptedmurder for the starvation of those kids. Heartbreaking case.

[@catscratchfever1473]

And also for inflicting deep wounds and allowing them to go septic.

[@jennifer6989]

The evidence they have shows that the intent was to punish not kill

[@leagarner3675]

Damage to the body is permanent and serious from starvation and physical abuse. Emotional abuse has long-lasting dire effects too. It's a life sentence for those children. They have the right not to be abused.

[@leagarner3675]

​@@jennifer6989no those children were near death and to not recognize that is the original cause of the abuse

[@jennifer6989]

@@leagarner3675 watch Emily D. Baker she explains it.

[@irmagonzalez-ramirez3213]

Its funny how she was so stubborn and refusing to talk and yet all she wrote in her journal was the fact that her two captive children enduring abuse were stubborn and refusing to do what she asked. She claimed they were evil.

[@lovepet4565]

She & Jody are pure EVIL

[@orangeblossom4524]

It's called PROJECTION! She is guilty of everything she said the kids did.

[@karenbest2717]

Her weird blinking during the police interview.

[@MahoganyMayhem]

@@karenbest2717that was creepy

[@irmagonzalez-ramirez3213]

@@karenbest2717 She is telling them off while looking sweet and innocent. It's disgusting and to find out that she was emotionally abusing the husband!

[@chime-girl]

Kevin should win an Oscar for his performance b/c his eldest daughter left the house while Kevin was still living at the house and the daughter reported the abuse years before Ruby took It to the next level.

[@tjol8736]

Really? His acting is awful. Lol

[@chime-girl]

@@tjol8736 😂

[@angiesmith]

That neighbors voice is so kind and peaceful. Sounds like a gentle sweet grandpa. I am so glad he helped that sweet boy.

[@faustini69]

Dont flip this around and say any trauma she may have received in her life caused her to do this. She's 42 years old. At what age do they accept accountability

[@lexusgrace6748]

Explanations doesn’t mean no accountability 😂.

[@Elvis_kosiek]

@@lexusgrace6748 by that age though if their even was so called “trauma” she should’ve gotten help for it especially if it led her to this. You could clearly tell she was trying to blame her trauma instead of herself.

[@lexusgrace6748]

@@Elvis_kosiek I agree with you. I’ve been following this case for a while, I’ve even been watching commentary on her her odd behavior/“punishments” on her children for a while. Her whole family seems off. Her mom,dad, and brother are supporting her through this.her sisters aren’t, but her sisters have also exploited their children on the internet and making videos explaining their parenting “ techniques “. I personally like learning about there motivations and backgrounds (idk if that make sense??) This so called mother is a narcissist devil who will never think she did anything wrong.

[@federicagennyraspavolo2129]

Let me tell you. This type of ppl never actually face their traumas in first place. I’m not one of these ppl. My mom is like this so I’m not trying to defend, but explain

[@brigs1856]

Shout out to the blonde fire rescue lady who covered and nurtured both the boy and girl. I'm sure she played a huge role in being a comfort to these children on this day. Everyone did a great job but I feel like she was a crucial part of the team in this situation.

[@cailinanne]

I guarantee went home after that shift and had nightmares, but she handled it so well. As an EMS worker you never know what you’ll see that day at work, and days like this… they stay with you for life. She’s a hero. 🥺

[@skatergirl8019]

Those neighbors saved his life. They showed him more kindness than his own family.

[@deniseglz8122]

I wonder what the other neighbors thought once the video came out and they found out that the little boy had come over to knock on their door. Did you notice that the man that ultimately helped him asked in a somewhat annoyed voice what the kid needed at first but then his tone changed? I wonder if the man didn't notice the wounds due to the glare of sunshine at first.

[@bullseyenow1]

@@deniseglz8122 Cranky retired guy. Probably thought he was going to ask for money

[@joyful7670]

My favorite part of this video is where we keep rewatching the same clips over and over.

[@skeletonxtwin]

right and how edited it is

[@colleen019]

Ruby should not be let out until all her children are at least 18 years old. Period.

[@m1ntyuu]

They’re im jail for 60 years, LONG after their 18th birthdays thankfully

[@shrekxrohankishibe]

@@m1ntyuuthey were sentenced to up to 30 years in prison. For all we know they could be out in 5 years if they are paroled.

[@Lexielouwho]

​@@m1ntyuu15x the 4 counts is 60 years but the state has a cap of 30 years. So at most she'll serve 30 but we all know they are letting repeat criminals out left and right. She's a first time offender so I bet she'll be released after she's served the first 4 years. So I too agree that I hope they keep her until the youngest kid turn 18 because I don't trust Kevin to put Eve's needs above his own.

[@teresathayn5170]

Write to the Utah Parole Board!!!

[@cloudcuckooland2369]

​@@m1ntyuuIt's 30 years max in Utah unfortunately.

[@karinascosta1218]

I can’t get over the question: “What’s going to happen with MY WIFE? I love my wife.” He went more than an entire year without seeing or talking or ASKING about his children. More than a year! He accepted it. He was ok with that. Then when he learns about what his children were suffering, he is more interested in knowing what is going to happen with his wife. It is absolutely DISGUSTING! Disgusting. He couldn’t care less for their children.

[@devnull1313]

"I wish I was a better husband." Well, WE all wish you were a better father.

[@faustini69]

Look into the manipulation Jodie had on the relationship. She basically turned it into a full narcissistic relationship where Ruby was in control. Ruby was also trying to get the husband to sign over all the joint assets.. house cars etc into ruby's name. She also wiped out the joint bank accounts and the kids bank accounts.

[@icicle8384]

girl no, he knew exactly what was happening

[@pamelamorrison4086]

He is every bit as bad as her

[@karinascosta1218]

@@devnull1313 Exactly! This guy is as disgusting as his wife. I am 💯 sure he was most definitely ok with all the abuse his kids suffered. It is sickening!

[@spoooky04]

I am disgusted by this father. He hears what his wife has been doing to his son. How he escaped that terror of hers and the one thing he is concerned about is “what is going to happen to my wife. I love my wife” - listen, if i would hear that anybody (!) it doesn’t matter if it is my mum, wife, husband, who the f*** ever, abuses my child in that way… these police officers would have a hard time keeping me in that room because I’d rage to get to that person and confront her. Wow. I hope these children will never ever have to be with neither of them.

[@bethanygibson5092]

There actually loads of evidence out there that he joined in with the abuse. They had a KZbin channel called "8 Passengers" and there are plenty of clips of Kevin AND Ruby abusing/admitting to abuse all their kids since 2015. Viewers were concerned of the well-being of the children for almost a decade which lead them to having CPS visit their home MULTIPLE TIMES! CPS done nothing about the abuse.

[@Amber-fn5zx]

I was so angry when I heard him say that too 🤬🤬🤬 Like forget your wife those children are way more in need of your love than your wife!!!! Like WTF? My heart breaks for those babies 💔😭😭

[@cindywells7009]

JODI: Why are you coming into my house!?!? Cop should have said... same reason you are on the phone with your lawyer.

[@laurenjurney5752]

The courage it took for that little boy to ask for help knowing what would happen if he was sent back home🥺🥺

[@fozzydare7987]

💔💔

[@kendallneason3645]

It was the third time he’d tried to run away. At least this time he got away. I truly believe he and his younger sisters’ lives were in danger. RF saved all his minor siblings. He’s a tough kid! According to Ruby in her despicable journal, he said he’d rather have a sip of water than her as a mother.

[@ashleym242]

Kevin’s demeanor and (lack of) response to being told the horrifying condition of his child is so bizarre. Says a lot about him.

[@devnull1313]

My guess is he's on a bewildering array of meds. How long does it TAKE to rattle off the names of your children??

[@KagomeYasha023]

He’s complicit and involved with it all always has been prior to Jodi supposedly telling Ruby to boot him from the house and even then he was negligent after he left the house.

[@lullysmommyify]

He's a weenie and a sheep. What a puppet

[@danielleschiazza6172]

I agree. All of the adults are weird! So strange, cold, emotionless. Those poor kids had no idea what real love felt like! These people obviously couldn't provide it.

[@debcarpenter8519]

Law and Crime. Jodi is not a Psychiatrist. She was a licensed counselor in Utah until she turned her license over. It's a huge difference that as journalists, you should report it correctly.

[@Just_a_Mom53]

🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@ashtrik3798]

She’s the one who called herself a psychologist or psychiatrist or whatever not Law & Crime

[@TN-rf7nt]

It was reinstated, iirc. Because of the influence of the Mormon Church.

[@stephaniebach__12-24]

Yeah a psychiatrist is an actual doctor

[@Mrs.AD0099]

Ya Jodi no Doctor

[@mamajewelful]

Bless that man who called 911, and the woman comforting and feeding him. I’d have a hard time composing myself 🥺

[@doogiehowser8187]

There is no way the father wasn't in on the abuse. Just because he wasn't for the last year doesn't mean he didn't for the other decades. He needs to be investigated.

[@justjill2896]

I think ruby ran that household and manipulated him and convinced him the kids were lying and maybe ruby tried to hide things from him. He said he was the provider not the caregiver he was always working.

[@ChiTownMama]

Her flat out blaming Jodi as if she is without blame and without fault is just WILD.

[@lynnlynn9124]

But it was the devil. Jodi knows this to be true because when the spirit is about to drop some knowledge on her, she gets a hot flash like those common in menopausal women. When the hot flash passes, she chills; figuratively and literally 😂

[@lizliz4186]

No personal accountability and no remorse. Not even one question about what will happen to her kids and whether they'll be taken care of if she goes to jail

[@petastafford908]

​@lizliz4186 fr like not once did she ask "are my kids okay?". What a waste of space.

[@KagomeYasha023]

Right Ruby was abusive prior to Jodi, she only got *WORSE* after meeting Jodi

[@lynnlynn9124]

@@KagomeYasha023 it was like gasoline meeting fire. They were both extremely problematic to begin with but when they met, their malignancy increased exponentially .

[@Aspin-uk8vf]

Dad allowed the podcasts, and he allowed his son to sleep anywhere but his bed for 7 to 9 months. He is no better.

[@pennyc11]

I know. The couch or futon. Not a bean bag. It was a silly prank. No physical violence. Excessive punishment turns older kids against younger ones at times. Did these parents ever take them to Disneyland? Disney had a silly commercial running about a kid packing for vacation. The older son learned cruelty from his abusive, heartless mother. She was smiling when son spoke of being punished.

[@KaraLynnJack]

​@@pennyc11Yes she is very sadistic in nature. Her collaboration with Jody who is evil brought even more sadistic qualities out of her.😢Those poor kids! I pray they are getting all the help they need physically, emotionally and spirituality. 😢😢

[@janinap4892]

​@@pennyc11Ruby has punished E as a 5-year old for not packing her own lunch so she didn't bring any to school when they called her to inform her little girl has no food. She has punished E for something by saying she will cut a head off of a favorite stuffed animal if E does it again or another time to cut her hair and I am not sure if she did that because I remember E being uncomfortable some time after a new haircut. These are from their KZbin videos from years ago. I once followed them out of curiosity because those seemed weird things to do. R seemed very scared most of the times in the videos. Like a dog waiting for a hit when done something wrong. It's really hard to understand all of this. P.S. All of Rubys childhood family have (had) their KZbin channels, also the parents, and at least one of her sisters seems cruel, too. But are they all even if they don't show it? Is it a mormon thing to raise kids like that? 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@cazza7034]

No religion is to blame for psychopaths.

[@itzelmayoral729]

​@@cazza7034 You have no idea what you're talking about

[@travixo]

The relief this poor boy must’ve felt when that nice family answered the door and took care of him until the paramedics arrived. Wow.

[@gracielaperezsilver7239]

Even during all this she keeps displaying an entitled and dismissive attitude, I can't stand her, never did. Her abusive behavior towards her children was obvious, always humiliating them in public, absolutely abhorrent.

[@laza8675]

and please tell me, how come these kids were not protected by society earlier, if she did all this in public??

[@Januarymash678]

@@laza8675authorities ignored all the calls and informants who for years tried to get cps and police involved

[@gracielaperezsilver7239]

@laza8675 exactly, I came across one of her videos a few years back and I was appalled on how she publicly humiliated her teens, I can't believe no one spoke about the rest sooner, I was not aware of all the nonsense she did and admitted to do on her videos.

[@cassdun619]

​@@laza8675its all too common for the kids to fall through the cracks

[@theroyalarsenalpodcast4099]

So the husband was told about the condition of his son and asked what's gonna happen with his wife. What a weak excuse for a man.

[@juliafloreshernandez6854]

He has no balls at all

[@randomsouthern3919]

Modern Man.

[@danielleschiazza6172]

Exactly! He is a coward! Pathetic.

[@anna_grisu]

Kevin is just a weakling husband, a coward father and delusional too to believe all that God's visions crap. He left his children with a clearly disturbed woman basically giving up his father's role. He bears SOME responsability in all that happened. In the first interrogation he was not comfortable in answering when asked about their discipline methods because HE KNEW THEY WOULD make a BAD IMPRESSION. The abusive behviour started well before Jody entered the scene. I hope he won't be allowed access to the younger children until they are 18..and then I hope they would no want to see him anyway

[@deeplorable8988]

Kevin was a victim too. The women destroyed him in that man hating cult, Connextions. Stop deflecting away from these evil women.

[@carriesmith1606]

That's what he said he feels to blame that's not a coward !! His wife is to blame he only did what he thought was right by a cult leader making money on a podcast and his wife .he cooperated with all of them .

[@meldbates]

He is not much of a man much less father if he would willingly go over a year with no contact with his children. Both parents deserve to loose all parental rights until the youngest is 18.

[@Just_a_Mom53]

He’s a feckless weakling and has the nerve to tip toe around the questions he knows full well what Happened to those kids he lived in the same house for Gods sake ! Liar , cheater and scumbag ! He needs to repent behind bars .

[@dawnb3194]

Agree.

[@annieharris2965]

Seeing that little girl so emaciated, in shock and in that closet made me tear up. I just wanted to sit in front of her with a gentle smile and a gentle hand and reassure her. Ugh I just wanna wrap those kids up in a big hug and let them know they are loved. 😢

[@jennyjenga1929]

Omg I felt the same way too 😢 I just wanted to hug them tight.

[@simplysophisticated6942]

The similarities between this case and the Vallow/Daybell case are staggering. The gradual descent into torturing children based on supposed “prophecies” into an immediate escalation (literally, in weeks time) should be a wake up call to those in LE these days. Take the accusations seriously. Listen to those who are fearful for the children. This thing could have ended in the same outcome the way it did with JJ and Tylee. This brave boy saved both his sister and himself. Forget these charges they have pled guilty to. Where’s the attempted murder for these two evil women?

[@Kayyyzer]

Hey ! What is LE ? :))

[@simplysophisticated6942]

@@Kayyyzer law enforcement 😊

[@quyenievv9256]

would you mind giving an overview of the Vallow daybell case?

[@lovepet4565]

And what is the common denominator? Mormons

[@shrekxrohankishibe]

⁠@@quyenievv9256if I remember correctly, there was a mother who was in some sort of cult and believed her children were evil and by murdering them she would save them. She also believed that doomsday was near and that she had to try and save the earth or something. The 2 children were murdered and buried while she and her new husband were on vacation. I think her Ex husband was also killed.

[@MrsTruthTeller]

DETECTIVE: Your children are in the hospital emaciated and malnutritioned. HIM: I care about my wife. How is she? This man is a MONSTER!!! He should be charged as well. Hopefully they won't give him custody of the children. They are both sick people.

[@kaleigh5630]

The kids were a pawn

[@27.10.]

He knows the abuse that was happening. He should be in jail too.

[@magalyibarra4592]

I am sure they won't let that dad keep the kids as he confesses that he has an addiction to pornography. didn't say what type they all sick af poor kids 🥺

[@nicoled1164]

I hope and pray the dad does not get the kids back 😪

[@bonnylouwho76]

@@magalyibarra4592 That won't stop them from returning the children to him, at all. In court, pornographic addiction isn't really considered appropriately for the damages it causes to marital relationships and children and entire families. It is disgusting.

[@lynnmarble8456]

I love how the woman who loves hearing herself talk clammed up, defiantly refusing to speak, staring indignantly at law enforcement when she was arrested and interrogated. She thinks she and Jodi know right and everyone else in the entire world is wrong. She takes malignant narcissism to a whole, new level.

[@CaLypSO4456]

She kinda creeped me out with her robotic-like blinking…

[@traceymaupin5105]

Russel is such a brave and intelligent boy! I can't believe he has had no help from his own family! All 4 minor Franke kids are in state custody with foster parents. This is so sickening!

[@VictoriaHill-ye4yg]

the fact kevin doesnt wanna answer how he disciplined his children says a lot. so glad theyre alive and getting healthy

[@jodicook9907]

I can’t believe how unbothered the dad is by the information he had just been given about his son!! He even contemplated when the officer said do you condone this kind of punishment. He should be in jail with them!!

[@Sasha-71]

these kids will never be the same no matter how much therapy they get… this so called mother is evil to the core

[@moodyringtarotllc1624]

Life is strange. The fact that the first video I see listed on her main KZbin channel: Eight Passengers, is titled "KIDS take me to Jail!" From years ago... The irony in foreshadowing was not lost.

[@Andrea-Tilburg]

Jodi talking about the Devil inside those kids,not even realising that she was the Devil walking on Earth in the flesh.

[@Maiju86]

Yes exactly! Ruby also... She has no remorse, she is just faking it so that she would get out of the prison. I hope she is not allowed to see her children ever again. Also Kevin is not that innocent as he tries to pretend to be. 😓

[@kaylahall1219]

He needs to be brought up on charges 😡

[@nanyummyify]

She's definitely got the devil influencing her and she's partnering with the devil.

[@eliza-uh1sk]

I hope they don't end up with eating disorders after being told they had to be punished by starvation and beatings . Poor children

[@teresathayn5170]

Right?!?

[@reginamoran1444]

Hopefully they get lots of therapy. But even that doesn't always help. I struggle with my eating disorder after facing a very abusive and neglectful childhood.

[@reganboomershine1153]

Unfortunately it’s likely going to be a mental struggle for them to heal. It’s going to take a long long time. It’s absolutely heinous what those kids had to endure. I just hope wherever these kids go after this, that they’re all together. To heal together, and end the isolation, will be the best thing for them going forward.

[@MariaCourtney-mp1wi]

​@@reginamoran1444it really upsets me when I hear abused children, are so disturbed from childhood trauma, that they hurt themselves as adults, the damage done to innocent children should be treated as murder of childhoods. A terrible crime, unforgivable.

[@Lindsey0007]

@@MariaCourtney-mp1withat’s what I’m dealing with but my parents (who are also LDS like Ruby and Jodi) think they’ve done nothing wrong. They murdered my childhood. Everything they did to me was my own fault for disobeying them and/or the church.

[@polishgrlinvegas]

They were torturing children under the nose of an AirB&B guest???? Insanity to the nth degree 😮

[@jonathantorres1285]

id sue them cause id be traumitized after that tbh

[@DefnoteDizzle]

Kevin showing more concern for Ruby during his interview is so telling. He doesn't ask many questions about his kids but says he trusts Ruby to care for the kids after being told his children were essentially dying. He said he wished he was a better husband and does not say he wished he was a better father after not seeing his kids for all that time. He also seems way too preoccupied with his own emotions instead of asking about his kids..... I know this man is also a victim of Jodi's "counseling" but he should not be allowed to have those kids back.

[@janeford218]

Jodi has not missed a meal.

[@cassiechristiansen707]

😂

[@Jmay411]

😂 facts

[@kaylahall1219]

😡infuriating! Ruby had a real band aid too. What? Couldn’t take the heat Ruby? Grrr! I’m so angry on those kids behalf.

[@AlaFrigginBama]

She definitely ate out a lot…🤷🏻‍♀️

[@fozzydare7987]

We’d def get on on a night out 😅

[@catherinemitchell3721]

The father...disgusting excuse for a human being 😡😡😡🤮🤮ZERO accountability. Didn't even care how they were.Too busy living his own life😡😡😡😡

[@liul]

And participated and agreed with the punishments when they were still together

[@adrianejordan6428]

All he could talk about was how he loved and trusted his wife 🤮

[@ganlet20]

I actually believe Ruby hid it from him.

[@RealTuckered]

@@ganlet20They were certainly hiding it from everyone else, so not outside the realm of possibilities.

[@Logholders]

@@ganlet20I think you are taking the meaning from that wrong. Yes, he loves and adores his wife but he followed that up at least twice with how this sounds like a made up story. You are wanting this man to condone what his wife did when he doesn’t actually know the full story yet and hasn’t really had time to process what has happened. He is suppose to just take everything as face value. That’s tough…..

[@sariebotha7908]

They shouldn't offer the mother any snacks or water, as she withheld food and water from her two kids well knowing what she was doing! No sympathy for this sick and evil "mother". 🤬

[@pamelakoester734]

To try to get them to open up and believe they were not being blamed for anything.

[@Gina-up4nk]

Ruby is faking remorse! She said it all on the phone to her sister. You have to say you were wrong and no what you did was wrong to get out earlier than sentence. That's what she basically said to her sister. I pray they both serve the full time 30 year's.

[@e.k.4508]

Yes, her plan was layed out in that phonecall. And the prosecution fell for it....

[@Gina-up4nk]

@@e.k.4508 I'm glad that others see them for the monsters they are.

[@e.k.4508]

I found the unraveling of motifs and suspected lack of remorse for both of them in the life vid from Hidden True Crimes (with Lauren and John Matthias, March 23) very interesting.. It's a long video, no timestamps yet, but worth while watching

[@Gina-up4nk]

@@e.k.4508 I will definitely check it out. Thank you

[@junejune1031]

@@e.k.4508 prosecution fell for what exactly? Their goal was to get a guilty plea. They got a guilty plea. Sentencing is out of their hands. They can’t take a person who pleads guilty to trial. They didn’t “fall” for anything. Maybe you are confusing the cases with another?

[@jflsdknf]

FOOD is NEVER something to withhold as punishment!! What a psycho

[@mykoniichistorychannel]

Or water. The fact that she wrote that he stole water from the hose gobsmacked me.

[@DistinctiveDestinations66]

After seeing the actual wounds of her son on 20/20 With them not being blurred out these two women need to rot in prison for thirty years for what they did to both of those children. The wounds were clear down through the flesh and looked like they were into the muscle and looked like it had been rotting under their so-called bandage. Ruby fully participated in the handcuffing and tying down of her son by what he told police. She knew everything that was happening to her children. Her fake act she puts on is just that. FAKE! These women are pure evil and using religion to justify this abuse is beyond sickening. The only people possessed by the devil is Ruby and Jodi.

[@DenzX_NJ]

I'm genuinely surprised a lot of the EMTs and officers were able to keep it together and not break down crying

[@DistinctiveDestinations66]

@@DenzX_NJ it is what they are trained for but still human. I can't even imagine

[@hla992]

Where did u see the wounds pictures?

[@DistinctiveDestinations66]

@@hla992 on the TV program called 20/20. They did a documentary on all the available evidence including pictures. It's really bad. He will have lasting physical scars from it

[@terr777]

There's photos online today of his back and he is absolutely skeletal. If he hadn't gotten out, they'd be isolated in Arizona by now. Jodi was already out scouting properties. I don't think those kids would have survived what they had in mind.

[@Abbyonice]

Jodi is so delusional she thinks she’s going to prison “for the Lord’s sake” like she literally thinks she was doing “The Lord’s work” 🤯 that’s crazyyyy

[@danielleschiazza6172]

Omg it's so annoying and infuriating.

[@dbr311]

The wife of the man who made the 911 call putting her hands on RF’s arms, kneeling in front of him…I remember as a kid feeling so comforted whenever my mom did that kind of thing, looking me in the eyes with motherly care and concern…I can’t imagine not having that as a child from safe adults, and to have this horror instead, just indescribable. Glad he found a sweet set of grandparents to help him.

[@moodyringtarotllc1624]

That lady doing the comforting was the other neighbor, I thought they said in another video. The first neighbor the boy went to for help but no one answered so he went to the next.

[@JennyGDelp]

When they opened that safe door and there was a toilet, bed, and EMPTY fridge in there, my heart sank to the floor. When they opened the drawer and there was the rope and cuffs (and nothing else in any of the cabinets or drawers), my heart sank to the core of the Earth. HEART BROKEN.

[@bonnie_gail]

people paid to get access to these children

[@kendallneason3645]

I think putting RF in that safe room with an empty kitchen with absolutely no food or drinks was extra torture. Sickening 😢

[@milliequarles1984]

I really believe she was so afraid because she believed she was going to get in trouble or “go to jail” in Ruby’s journal she influenced the kids to believe THEY were evil, R thought that when he was going to go to jail if he ran away. His plan was to go to jail to escape. it’s heartbreaking.

[@katkat2k]

Absolutely! Hearing the sentence “we have Jodi out there” was probably very scary! 💔I want to give these kids a giant hug.

[@leonhue722]

The big question is ...... How did these two individuals get away with torturing the children without family doctor, teachers, all relatives, friends and immediate neighbors not knowing of the exceedingly cruel abuse that was being unleashed on the two captive children ?

[@cassdun619]

It's super common, I'm a child of abuse and mine didn't come out till I was 17 and a few months till 18 years old. I had told a couple adults in the family but no one would do anything about it. When I told police and social workers, they said they wouldn't press charges but help me get out. (It's really messed up what the cops and social worker said during that process) I showed signs of abuse in 2nd grade, was moved to private Christian school when a teacher asked about my health problems and suggested therapy. (Another long story of how a few adults didn't help me)

[@onedirectionforever2891]

Trust me, kids are brilliant at hiding stuff especially if theyve been threatened and scared by the abusers

[@lilyannyoungblood1424]

You’d be surprised what they consider abuse , cps continues to “intervene” and then determines it not enough and leaves. Then we get beat worse for snitching.

[@kat0radd]

Bless that elderly couple who helped R, they showed more compassion than his own parents.

[@anitas15]

I understand we all react differently to situations… but… I would absolutely lose my mind if I was told my kids were rescued in those conditions.

[@taylorrenee35ify]

THANK YOU

[@latinkas1ify]

Condition*

[@whitneybosseler]

They are all apart of the same cult. They don't care.

[@anitas15]

@@whitneybosselerright, I wouldn't call out for my wife when I'm being told my kids were starved in her care, right??????

[@whitneybosseler]

@@anitas15 it's so gross. He is more worried about her than his own children. It's apparent he went a year without contact with them

[@AshisFall]

I'm sorry but does anyone else feel like the dad is more surprised that he's being told the emaciation, duct-tape, and rope burns are a problem than the fact that he had those problems at all; he seems to not even be able to bring himself to admit that it's wrong until the officer leads him to it...

[@poitboing]

It's clear that he doesn't give a damn about his kids; i know people react differently but your children being tortured should not be a something someone responds neutrally to. The religious background to this weird guarding is important.

[@laurenmay2098]

He could care less about the kids. I hope he loses his parental rights. None of them are fit to be a parent. Shame on them.

[@laurenmay2098]

@@poitboinghe didn’t even said, I love my children. Nope, he said, I love my wife, the monster behind the torture. He is no different from her.

[@MsWaggydog]

In the jail calls he only cares about the money that Ruby put in a bag.

[@itzelmayoral729]

Beaten woman syndrome

[@ameliacoburn4787]

Mad respect to all the police and rescue workers in these videos. Heros. Their ability to remain so calm is amazing!!!!!

[@colleenhershey7611]

- I trust my attorney he’s a great honest man - What’s his name? -idk lol

[@nolavee3477]

But he comes from a long line of litigators.

[@SteamPoweredSmurfette]

Okay this actually made me laugh

[@brisanikolina1537]

😂😂😂

[@danielleschiazza6172]

I was thinking this same thing 😂😂

[@the-finn]

These two women are nothing but sick bullies. I'm so glad the boy was brave enough to make a run for it when he got the chance. He should be proud of himself for helping to catch these two momsters and save himself and his sister. What these two did to those two children should have gotten them a life sentence, in my opinion.

[@CS-pi5oc]

This is not abt bullying. It’s abt a desire for power, control, and the enjoyment of others pain. I was an abused child. It colors ur life forever. I nvr spanked my kids. I have a flt attendant, dr, lawyer & nursing home worker who love and respect all ppl.

[@mimiz7937]

They may not last in prison.

[@the-finn]

@@CS-pi5oc bullying is about power

[@danielleschiazza6172]

​@@CS-pi5ocyes, BULLYING. tf?

[@nellygonz4528]

Dad’s lack of a reaction when hearing of the condition his son was found in….is a big 🚩 red flag. I’m sure he was aware.

[@laurawentworth6237]

A mother that's shaves her little girls head and her little boy for punishment is evil.. These little children were abused , tied up and starved, his legs are so skinny

[@mandazynha]

His knee caps were visible that’s indicative of severe malnutrition that poor baby

[@jennagreer2659]

I can’t get over how the dad was more concerned for his wife than his kids 🤬🤬🤬

[@Bernie666]

He’s as bad as them

[@tuxitalk1World]

She has him p-whipped and he loves it. He is not a man.

[@FoolFatCoke]

29:42 so heartbreaking, she's starving but so afraid to eat or leave

[@Squidink09]

Ruby’s jailhouse call to Kevin saying that “it’s not the person you’re fighting it’s the evil” was horrifying. SHE is the evil. She isn’t misunderstood, she is misinterpreting herself, her own BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN, and reality itself.

[@strwberipunkin]

This “father” is just as much a liar than the rest of them.

[@adoptacat2877]

The father was not at all surprised by the news of abuse because all three of them are sociopaths and evil. He should not be given any of those children.

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

I agree, he is a selfish person who was more concerned about his wife than his poor abused children.