Ruby Franke Prosecutor Tells All: ‘Horrific Abuse’

[@asbisi]

Ruby has no right to call the children she abused for "my babies". They are NOT her babies. You are supposed to love and feed your babies, not hate, torture, gaslight and starve them.

[@adoral.libertucci2647]

Amen!!

[@kkbartist]

I think she says that in a “possessions” kind of way, like they are HERS. That’s how LDS parents see their children, as possessions

[@katarinaswan2102]

AGREED

[@Mimi2thebestboysever]

Absolutely!!!

[@caroldeaton619]

I hope when the children are adults and only sees her one time to let her know that she was no mother at all to them and they want nothing to do with her. I know I wouldn't if I was her child and she did that to me.

[@esdee878]

They should not be paroled... ever. Make Ruby and Jodi stay in prison for every second possible.

[@Swoose17]

I hope the judge feels the same way as you.

[@jo-annewilkinson5663]

It has nothing to do with the judge. It is the probation board that determines the length of their sentences.

[@NoChance-oz4dd]

Ruby will be out in a year. 1 to 15 years is a joke

[@annettelacey7913]

​@@NoChance-oz4dd is that all she got,

[@tygressblade]

@@NoChance-oz4dd If she makes it that long.

[@shibel3964]

Ruby pretending she's sorry and crying in the courtroom makes me sick. These 2 women had zero compassion for the children. They're the ones who are evil, not those poor innocent kids.

[@Renee-wy1po]

😢not once did she want to hear about the kids after they were found 😢

[@GinaPressley]

Exactly!

[@larrylyn210]

I cannot believe this guy in the video believes that she was heartfelt. Does he get manipulated by everyone all the time? I’m just flabbergasted.

[@maryw1129]

It was all a show.I agree with you.I hope the parole board does not go easy on her.That's why they did a plea deal.If all this evidence came out they would have done life

[@annabyrne4662]

Exactly she’s a psychopathic narcissist

[@pillettadoinswartsh4974]

The sick thing is, that both Ruby and Jodi are getting treated MUCH better in prison, than they treated those poor kids.

[@splinterbyrd]

Hildebrandt shouldn't be in prison. She should be in a secure mental hospital. Permanently. The public must be protected. People like that never change. There are many vulnerable people in prison. If she isn't stopped, I bet it won't be long before she's "counselling" vulnerable fellow inmates

[@robertshepherd99]

The even sicker thing is, how many OTHER children have been abused by that woman? THe Mormon church was happily referring parents to her to get their rebellious teens in line with church doctrine! Who is looking after them?

[@superpoepie6256]

I don't know about female prisons but in male prisons someone who has done wrong to a child often gets beaten up or worse.. Don't you think it will be the same in a female prison?

[@superpoepie6256]

@@robertshepherd99 Many, many more, including the children in her own extended family. I just don't understand how everyone believed her and just followed her advice.. Even when you have their religion, that never justifies abusing a child. I really don't understand. As for Ruby and Jodie, I think they both enjoy inflicting harm. It's sickening!

[@lisab6547]

@@superpoepie6256 years ago my sister was in jail for drug charges. There was a woman inmate who had abused her 9 yr old stepdaughter and un alived her. The inmate was supposed to be kept away from the other women because of what she had done. But one day there was a mistake and she ended up in a holding cell with 2 other women while they waited to be taken to court. One of the women recognized her and took matters into her own hands. The jail employees got in there and separated the women. I can't help wonder if the mistake that put the one woman in with 2 others wasn't really a mistake. But I'm pretty sure what happens in the men's detention happens in the women's too.

[@LeahHa8]

The video about the child not packing her lunch and how Ruby thought she should just go hungry should have been enough to get a visit from CPS.

[@anneamus]

Mormons supervising mormons. System broken.

[@81suze]

Kid was freaking 6 years old too. No 6 year old should pack their lunch.

[@LeahHa8]

@@81suzeexactly

[@jenndob3865]

Agreed!!!!! I can't imagine my 10yr old packing her own lunch... I mean a nutritious one anyway!!! Lol how could she put so much responsibility on that poor baby!!! So glad that her time is up!!

[@briardan9226]

Her oldest daughter called CPS and they did nothing!

[@asbisi]

The prosecutor is making it sound like Ruby only began abusing her children after she met Jodi Hildebrand. That is not right, it started WAYYYYYYY earlier with her husband Kevin, who was also abusive towards the kids. Maybe the abuse became more extreme after Jodi entered the picture, but it was severe abuse, mental and physical for many years, maybe always.

[@reinasherman8009]

Yeah. I am not sure if he is just unaware or got manipulated by Ruby or what.

[@LakesandOceans588]

And Ruby’s sister, Bonnie, talked about her being manipulative and attention seeking even as a child, so I don't think she's changing. I think it is her core personality.

[@shilohivy4590]

I agree. Kevin is also a sick person. He seemed to only care about her. Hasn’t seen his kids in a year? How?

[@officer_itsnotmine5386]

No tjis is been going on for years she did it to her older kids

[@Gigi4LLE]

I don’t think he looked into either one of their pasts. Jodi with how she treated her niece and other people. Ruby with how she treated and abused her kids before

[@isabelpereda]

So ironic that Ruby kept saying that her children had the devil inside them when in reality SHE IS the devil! I hope they never come out of prison

[@cynthiaconnors183]

That's always the case with people like her

[@TheDriftwoodlover]

Narcissists always accuse their victims of the very behavior they exhibit, so, yeah, she said they had the devil because she was that devil. In my experience (sister is an LDS convert), that religion plays the devil card for everything.

[@ItCantRainForever2]

Narcissists are known to project everything they do on to others

[@harleyadams4551]

Religion is so harmful towards children. Societies accepted mental disorder, nothing more and nothing less.

[@isabelpereda]

@francisweaver6251 I'm so sorry that it happend to you but so happy that you are out of that cult!

[@cheller8357]

I love that you highlighted the most beautiful thing about this ugly situation… the absolute respect, tenderness and sensitivity shown by all the first responders. Every time I see the footage I’m so impressed with their restraint to not show excitement and overwhelm the little girl in the closet when they finally found her. Trust was won gracefully and these offices should be proud of their work.

[@Bess9779]

I hope the parole board becomes aware of the fact that Ruby was mistreating her children in her thirst for control way before Jodi came into the picture.

[@abbyjohnson206]

I hope so to, I have read many people say that Jodi manipulated her and I’m like “uhhh, have you not seen her videos before she met Jodi?”

[@scorpjess84]

That I don't know but grateful for this comment...was it seriously way before JH was in RF life??? If so how do you know ❤ genuinely curious and either way where was the husband in ALL this time, before JH an during!?

[@critterscute3642]

⁠Agree. Jodi affirmed her actions and basically gave her permission to push it as far as she wanted. It worries me this prosecutor doesn’t seem to get that.

[@PhyreReighn]

Its the mormonUtah way. Too many kids to keep track of and this abuse is the norm. Born and raised in Utah by LD$/FLD$/RLDS Ive heard from every neighbor & relative- "I gave them life, now they owe me" true in 2024

[@retpal2302]

yea her screws were lose already

[@lizlarsen1653]

Ruby fooled the prosecutor. I hope he sees the light soon. She abused her children LONG before she met Jodi. Denied them food, made them sleep on the bathroom floor, etc.

[@CompleteCreationsLLC]

She absolutely did and being the mother that should have protected her child she should get all the time and so should Jodi.

[@TheMary0831]

And how! A true remorseful statement would have been all about her kids and what she did to them... instead, it was allllll about her.

[@BrianJosephMorgan]

He is very naive.

[@gb3376]

Yep and Kevin was there too

[@tygressblade]

I would agree.

[@tullochgorum6323]

I'm a qualified child protection officer. It's very rare to see this kind of highly organised, systematic abuse, backed by a whole perverted philosophy. They did this in cold blood, and the whole house was organised and stocked to facilitate their cruelty. It's truly jaw-dropping that two different women were crazy enough to think that this was the right way to parent.

[@briardan9226]

Wait until you hear Jodi justifying it through LDS bible passages!

[@hikingwiththedog6078]

My amateur theory is these two nut jobs were sadistic, and the combination of children and religion was the most convenient way for them to act out their compulsions. They found victims too small to defend themselves, and they found a philosophy they could mold into a justification for their cruelty. I don't know how much each one of them believes their own BS, but I suspect Jodi is more deluded than Ruby. Perhaps the two of them becoming friends was the event that escalated things the most.

[@MissPrettywoman628]

Those children would have died if they had moved to AZ.

[@cdmurphy949]

That's what being brainwashed by religion unfortunately does to some weak people who aren't intelligent enough to think for themselves. Religion truly is the root of all evil.

[@mahinapereirabarbapereira3926]

⁠@@hikingwiththedog6078 Also think they're sadistic. Saw the wounds on those poor kids, it's so disgusting that their own mother did that to them.

[@lukedeluxe]

“Hopefully nobody gives her food.” No, Ruby, no!!! That’s sick!!!

[@fonkamex]

She is the opposite of a nurturing mother, she wishes her kids bad luck and zero compassion. She is a really sick woman who should have never have had any children

[@jangilbert8028]

What a sick reply. This woman is not a mother!

[@terriziemba9170]

The system needs to realize that Ruby was abusing ALL of her children long before Jodi got involved. She is just as guilty as Jodi

[@rebeccaketner816]

Absolutely.

[@juneaskew6871]

ABSOLUTELY ‼

[@shadamyandsonamylover]

Yes. Unfortunately I think generally her bad parenting is still legal though. Not sure cps would have found anything wrong before Jodi.

[@LynetteA68]

This DA is deluded!!!

[@LynetteA68]

@@shadamyandsonamyloverdenying your children food is not legal!!

[@franciscachesca]

The girls had was shaved. Police officers thought she was a boy. She and her brother hadn't seen eachother in a month. While "living" in the same house. There is so much emotional abuse, besides the physical abuse

[@mercedeswestbrook4356]

Its so shocking... and so damaging for these young children, I feel such rage at monsters who abuse kids!

[@joannesheaffer9522]

Eve and Russell oozed sweetness and goodness. They will struggle with this forever. Bless them.@@mercedeswestbrook4356

[@debidehm9129]

The emotional abuse has been happening for years.

[@merriferrell2818]

Imagine they used to live in their house with their other siblings. Then their own mother upends them with a stranger and tortures them. Their parents made money off their kids.

[@sandibaker5298]

OMG! I can’t believe my ears! The prosecutor saying he believes that horrible abuser’s “speech” was heartfelt and that she feels awful!! There’s no way she did a 360 about face in 6 months!! She’s as horrible today as she was last year! She’s a major manipulator who knew what the judge and everyone wanted to hear and delivered it.

[@SunFlower-sf1go]

Exactly my feelings! She did an about face when she realized how much time she could do. She immediatly crawled back to her family knowing she needs them when she comes up for parole. This prosecutor is making exuses for Ruby! So weird especially when he says himself the kids were not making it out alive!

[@goodcatfilms4276]

180*

[@BootsEditor11]

Oh, it was an act, and an over the top one at that... Ruby was playing the entire band. She was ready to throw Jodi under the bus and testify against her all the way. But her hands were just as dirty, they were her kids! Did you know Ruby cleaned out all the kids savings, and Kevins, and gave it to Jodi? They found the $85,000 cash in the home!

[@jacquelineglitter4328]

I guess he didn't see her videos when she would starve her kids then smile about it.

[@Love_cats584]

This prosecutor was sooo deceived and manipulated by Ruby. Honestly he should know better, when he deals with people that lie all of the time. Come on! Of all people, he should know better!!!!! Makes my blood boil she is still manipulating! Come on! Can’t you see it? Have you not watched her blog? You don’t treat children that way. It’s so wrong. She is not sorry and has not changed. She is sorry for herself and only herself and knows she has to make a show of remorse to be let out early. It’s pretty simple. She is pretty smart and is all about number one.

[@AmberDawnLee]

When the father is interviews he tells officer that he refuses to say how he "disciplines" the children. Red Flag.

[@KizonKeyote]

I know right. I am certain he was abusive as well as Ruby before they even met Jodi. So even if he "wasn't there" then, I am 100% certain that those kids were being treated terribly and just didn't care at all. He isn't a father and she isn't a mother. He is a sperm donor and she is an egg donor

[@MMM-go4pl]

Ruby doesn’t love her children, she loves her power of controlling them.

[@amyholman354]

Yes, she’s weeping because she messed up her freedom to be sadistic.

[@ard3128]

Wow. When you think about it, she has been in control of scenarios and how things are "going to be" up until this point, that now the control she had for SO long is gone. SHE is now being controlled. That is probably why she was unresponsive from the beginning AND in the interrogation room, to maintain that sense of control. But, you best believe she'll try her best to manipulate and deceive to get it back as soon as possible! Dangerous.

[@sheilalynch6145]

And the money she makes off of them.

[@analuisahering2043]

She's a pathological sadist

[@woofna1948]

See my earlier comment. Ruby was a pawn in Jodi's delusion. That's how cults work. Easy to demonize her, but I think that she, and her entire family were exploited by Jodi. If you want a villain - someone to blame for this sick tragedy, you need look no further than Jodi.

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

She’s a sadistic sociopath. She has ZERO remorse. Her “heartfelt speech” is an act and she’s already trying to manipulate the parole board and public. The fact the prosecutor buys her act shows it IS working and is sickening to consider an early release is possible.

[@georgewashington3555]

Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke should not fall for Rubys act she is a huge manipulator. Makes him look foolish not to know she abused her kids before Jodi every came on scene.

[@sylviaking8866]

Exactly and she's also a narcissist. All sociopaths are narcissists but not all narcissists are sociopath.

[@luciaconn6788]

exactly, self-serving 'poor little me' speech. What I can't believe is how she threw it all away for the sake of what? devolving motherhood into sadistic torture when the grueling diaper change, colds, protecting from harm stage was completed, time for fun and that's her 'fun'?

[@tinacarroll7932]

If anyone buys her “heartfelt “ speech then they need to go back and look at her behavior from her first child all the way down to the youngest. It started way before Jodi. Seriously don’t believe that nonsense.

[@whatsyoursign3910]

Yeah, it's kinda disturbing that an obvious narcissistic manipulator could work one over on a prosecutor like this.

[@crpdr507]

Please don’t allow these two women to get paroled, they are up for parole in 2027, this is an insult to justice and especially to those who suffered.

[@freya4460]

Right?

[@gointothedogs4634]

I agree wholeheartedly. Neither should be paroled ever.

[@shannajoy1821]

I live in Canada. A young woman here in my province tortured and burned a teen to death. She was sentenced to 7 years in prison and was out in 3 years, this year, a free person. Justice is a joke.

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

Seriously! She’s a sadistic sociopath. She has ZERO remorse. Her “heartfelt speech” is an act and she’s already trying to manipulate the parole board and public. The fact the prosecutor buys her act shows it IS working and is sickening to consider an early release is possible.

[@MrPaultopp]

This is the sort of fool that will push for these two bi thes to be released… What a wimpy , wishy washy prat ….This prosecutor is so gullible , someone needs to give him a dry slap to wake him up

[@Jk71745]

This prosecuter and his gullibility even after admitting it was one of the most horrific things he’s ever seen, is what’s wrong with the judicial system.

[@seraphcreed840]

Seems the mormon church runs the judiciary /allegedly/. Meaning, they got a cushy plea deal because of her affiliations.

[@meowtotheworld4801]

It's a great example of Pretty Privilege. Tall, thin, blonde, attractive Ruby was just being led around by the nasty old lady.

[@Earthy-Artist]

Ruby had the prosecutor by his man parts. He was only doing his thinking with those.

[@SomeGuy-xf9bc]

Women always get a pass.

[@oshing9]

Hold the father accountable too. He should be charged with negligence.

[@adalon378]

As long as the kids are safe from him...

[@georgewashington3555]

Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke looks very foolish Naive and is failing the public by having Ruby manipulate him.

[@normbograham]

they were abusing the father as well, and the mother moved out of the house, that the father was paying for, without ever allowing him to move back into the house.

[@peace_lovemuzic5208]

​@@georgewashington3555I 💯% agree!

[@diligent_seeker]

@@normbograham The men in this country have become emasculated!

[@carolstevens1722]

I think the prosecutor needs to consult with a forensic psychologist. He needs to understand motivations & likelihood of reoffending. Ruby is not just some innocent person who was duped.

[@wandad1799]

Yes! A RISK ASSESSMENT

[@jennylynn9668]

I think it's up to parole board on whether or not they get out in 2027. Utah is different than most states. Most likely the parole board will get a report from the correctional facility about them. Mental health department will have a say.

[@melanytodd2929]

YES🙏🙏🙏

[@Totalpyemove]

If I have to hear her say “unCOMfortable!” one more time, I’m gonna puke. She is so despicable. Her poor children to have that monster for a mother.

[@jenniferbailey5914]

The teacher is uncomfortable with her child having no food but she isn’t. 💯 abuser!

[@catbyte0679]

Her speech patterns have always driven me nuts. It's so odd.

[@5thdimension954]

She’s gonna be saying it a bunch more after the girls get a hold of her. Lol

[@possumintheblossom]

De-SPIC-able.

[@brittbrat4977]

Omg I know. It drives me insane every time I hear her say that

[@mykayla4089]

Says it’s horrific abuse and then proceeds to give them the minimum sentence.

[@KaylaCorrine17]

And make a deal with Ruby that he won’t say anything negative to the parole board once she’s up for parole…meaning with her fake apologies, she could be up for parole in just FOUR years!!

[@Lonnie1969s]

She won't make it out a live!!

[@אפרתכרמלי-ג2ק]

@@Lonnie1969s No She will not Come Out of Prison after 4 Years. She will be minimum 6 Years in Prison. How will she manage in Prison with other Women Prisoners there ? A woman that went to Prison for Torchure her own children in front of the Cameras 📷 😳 and was Proud of it ? 👏 How Awful 🙂 I am glad that she, so Stupidly Recorded herself Torchuring her Own 6 Children. Efrat

[@JeremyBilbrey-kr6fz]

And then says he won't hinder Ruby getting released

[@OmEvul1415]

@@JeremyBilbrey-kr6fz Ruby is truly the master manipulator.

[@karenbluebird3827]

They never should have gotten the plea deal. They deserve LIFE in prison!!

[@hikingwiththedog6078]

At least the plea deal spared the kids from having to testify in court, that's some consolation.

[@dazzlingzebra]

I feel like there was enough evidence without the children's testimony.

[@dazzlingzebra]

Agreed! It seems like there is enough evidence without the children's testimony.

[@oonaellaa]

That’s the maximum they could have gotten anyway. In Utah the max sentence for a crime like this is 30 years. Also there is no fixed sentences in Utah, the parole board decides the length of the sentence.

[@jomc6734]

While I agree with you, the crimes they were charged with didn't carry life as a sentence.

[@gdave53925_]

This guy has been bamboozled by Ruby and she has totally pulled the wool over his eyes. She was not a passive follower, she had already started abusing the children long before Jodi came along. She needs to sit in prison as long as if not longer than Jodi. These were her children that she was torturing her own children, Jodi just gave here permission to escalate it. Her entire thank you speech at sentencing was fake and rehearsed. She probably had cry here, sniffle here on the paper. It was not sincere at all, and he the prosecutor fell for it.

[@ashleyashley9405]

Agreed

[@GoodWillPrevail]

I don't think she's had enough time to truly be remorseful.

[@Eyes.WideOpen]

​@@GoodWillPrevailshe will Never be Truly remorseful

[@gailramsay7043]

What a manipulater.

[@margaretwilkett7830]

And yet he has spoken with Ruby Franke and examined the evidence and we have not so the prosecutor's opinion is of more value to me.

[@dianneskipwith2066]

This lawyer hasn’t done his homework on Ruby Franke. If he had he would know she was abusing her kids way before she met Jodie.

[@Mfdoorway]

I feel like it was a relationship built on affirming each other’s ridiculous beliefs. Ruby for sure was abusive before… but once she had someone pushing her forward all bets were off. The way she was talking was cracked. Sounded like she was on a path towards a Lori Vallow ending

[@TEM14411]

Absolutely. And to say child abuse like this doesnt happen/ isn't documented is just untrue. What is child p×÷n???? Abusers delight in documenting their abuse. ​@Mfdoorway

[@Littlewings1211]

This is exactly why people saying Ruby was brainwashed etc makes me really angry. Not only were there signs of abuse years before Jodi even met Ruby but if you look at Ruby's demeanor, body language and reactions in her initial "interview" it tells a very different story. She is cold/unemotional, calm, never once asking about her children or whether they are ok. The most interesting part of it is the way she "answers" their questions. She looks each of the detectives in the eyes for maybe 5 seconds-ish, first one, then the other and refuses to answer anything. She just stares down her nose at them. After a period of time where she just repeats this behaviour - eye contact with one, then the next while not saying a word - she then requests a lawyer in a somewhat vague way (something to the effect of "I think I will wait to speak to my lawyer") but goes back into her silence/weird eye contact thing when they try to clarify whether or not that was a genuine request for representation. It's very clear she enjoys the power that her silence gives her; her arrogance and narcissistic behaviour, coupled with the zero interest in the welfare of her children, to me (and this is just my layman's opinion) shows that she was not the unwitting follower people are making her out to be. Jodi was equally as guilty, no doubt about that. The similarities between what happened to the Franke kids and the recollections of Jodi's nibling, Jesse (Jesse identifies as non-binary) are too much to be waived as coincidence. I believe that these two women were toxic before they met, maybe Ruby would have gone on to do the same/similar acts without Jodi (I think she would have) but undoubtedly their meeting was a catylist that led to the worsening abuse of those poor children.

[@glitterprincess5672]

👏👏👏

[@georgewashington3555]

Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke fails to understand Ruby and her abuses of children even before Jodi came around. Please do not fall for Abusers Manipulators Compliments, makes you look really naive.

[@cheriatkins8378]

Utah seriously needs to change their laws on child abuse!

[@Nerdwork-fg7wt]

Eric Clarke seems to have a soft spot for Ruby. He flat out stated that he wanted Jodi to do more time than Ruby because she supposedly expressed remorse. But I saw no evidence of this remorse in any of her phone calls. Plus, RUBY IS AN ADULT! Those kids were her responsibility, not Jodi's.

[@gracejones2831]

Ruby flirted and he fell for it.

[@marianking1111]

Sure pray the parole board is not as gullible as this prosecutor. Did he not read her diary! Ruby was evil before she ever met Jodi. Together they are pure evil.

[@SunFlower-sf1go]

He’s really defending that monster for some reason! The POS monster mocked and laughed at her children’s suffering! No matter how brainwashed one may be, you have to be a sick F to do what she did. She enjoyed it. Jodi allowed her to be her true self!

[@RoseNZieg]

parole board is worse than prosecutors in my opinion.

[@matthewhurst2256]

Exactly and did he not watch their videos

[@jenscheibner792]

@@matthewhurst2256 He didn't do his job of representing the victims....

[@chewyjello1]

@@RoseNZieg I hate to hear that. :(

[@bbsteele671]

I cry every time I see him being so polite asking for help.

[@SmurfPerfect]

He was living on n distorting Ruby was just trying to break Satin out of him

[@eh1702]

@@SmurfPerfect Yeah, that Satin, so smooth. Making kids commit crimes like “*looking* prideful” for making it halfway through a sadistic endurance-punishment. How come child who has to be starved and beaten and paychologically abused because…Satin. While the adult who beats, abuses and starves a helpless prisoner is…OK?

[@alisonwilson9749]

@@SmurfPerfectsatin? I didn't realise little boys were made of fabric.

[@rhondaouwenga7429]

😂

[@bbsteele671]

@@alisonwilson9749 hahahaha gettem' lol

[@sharonlacoste9184]

Have to say the couple who answered the door and the first responders are truly hero’s. They restored my faith in humanity! Thank-you for truly being amazing! These kids will never forget your kindness and love!

[@dazzlingzebra]

I think Ruby is way more calculative than the prosecutor gives her credit for. I think Ruby and Jodi are equally culpable.

[@user-gk-y8t]

Absolutely. She was abusing the children before she met Jodi.

[@adoral.libertucci2647]

Absolutely. She’s a snake. Calculating, controlling, sadistic, and manipulative. Ironically she likened R to being a snake. Projecting…

[@LoveJoyPeace4612]

Ruby is actually way way way more culpable in my opinion. She was their mother! She had a duty and obligation to protect them. Not only did she utterly fail in that, but she actively participated in their torment. She deserves exactly zero leeway. She should never ever see the light of day again. This prosecutor is beyond disgusting. He has failed in his duty to advocate for justice for those kids.

[@amateur_psychologist]

If anything the mother should face stricter justice because she had the responsibility to care for those children

[@Sizzl647]

Yes I thought I was the only one hearing that the prosecutor seems to be placing Jodi as the mastermind. Both culpable terribly abusive with forethought planning and intent

[@HD6642]

The CPS workers that failed to stop this when the sister made a complaint should’ve faced charges too for negligence.

[@steggopotamus]

When I was a kid in the 90s I used to believe in the whole "bad kid" kids just don't respect parents BS. But now I realize kids crave stable parental figures, so if a Kid is calling CPS, something isn't right with the family, same with Running away etc. something has to go SERIOUSLY wrong with parenting for kids to do those things because kids crave parents so strongly they'll put up with a lot and still never think about leaving.

[@SageIsabella]

Which sister called? @HD6642

[@tiger.wolf.2033]

​@SageIsabella Shari who is already an adult and is studying at a college somewhere. And not only her called CPS. Neighbors too! Neighbors realized years ago that the kids were alone at home without mother or father and sometimes were walking randomly around the neighborhood maybe looking for food. The reports to cops and CPs were done several times.

[@TheElusiveReality]

@@tiger.wolf.2033 CPS is such a joke smh

[@LibraryLizard]

And on Jody’s side, her niece reported nearly identical abuse long before she ever met Ruby.

[@BMarie774]

None of this needed to happen. We warned local police for years. We warned them this was escalating and when Ruby pulled out of the spotlight we warned them even more. I personally sent concerns that she was isolating the kids to further their abuse without social repercussions. This didn’t need to happen.

[@happyhenryxii1956]

[@deborahpoole9710]

They both pled guilty to some of the charges only to avoid going to trial and having it all come out! They should never be released!

[@BMarie774]

@@deborahpoole9710 Exactly. Jodi plead guilty because she knew I’d those kids testified she’d go away for a long long long time. It wasn’t even to rotiert the kids..

[@BMarie774]

@@christykloss Sadly, it was hardly just me. So so so many other people raising alarm bells. It actually sucked when she stopped the channel, because it felt like she was solely doing so to avoid social and legal repercussions and we fully expected the abuse to escalate. The things she was willing to discuss were often egregious enough. Law enforcement should’ve known it was much worse behind the scenes.

[@maryrichter7040]

So you saw this and reported it and nothing happened? This seems to happen a lot. Look at little Harmony Montgomery. It breaks my heart. At least these kids were saved.

[@deniseandrews113]

Shame on this guy for saying crimes don't often happen in certain neighborhoods or income groups. The only difference is that wealthy folks have connections that allow their misdeeds to be covered up or never reported. It's this kind of attitude that allows these kinds of atrocities to continue, and flourish...

[@Rey-it3sg]

Agreed. I came from a middle class family and no one would have guessed what happened behind closed doors. These two have way more money and space, thus more options and excuses for them to do what they want and never be questioned. That needs to be considered in these cases, and I think it's very conveniently looked past by the legal system that people with more money and power have more chances than anyone else to do these things.

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

So true! Excellent and very important point! Thank you for raising this topic.

[@sassysince90]

Facts. Neglect and abuse is just over looked in affluent homes

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

@@sassysince90 Yes! And this fact really needs to be highlighted MUCH more!

[@celestejimenez416]

RIGHT !!!! SMFH that comment said so much about the type of person he is smfh disgusting

[@joansutton]

She used starvation as torture. Also even deprivation of water. She punished her son for "stealing water" when was drinking desperately from the garden hose.

[@mahinapereirabarbapereira3926]

You have to see the wounds those kids have, those horrible women literally tortured them.

[@marycampbell1576]

@@mahinapereirabarbapereira3926😢

[@mariacperez-fondon543]

That's so sick from a mother's perspective. Shame on you!!..

[@HGD70]

The area they lived in was regularly well over 100 degrees in the summer. It’s unbearable to be outside for very long. No water is unthinkable.

[@joansutton]

@@HGD70 Torture through water deprivation..

[@terpsitwinkle556]

Mr Prosecutor, Ruby is playing you all. She should win 10 Oscars, because I don't buy her "remorse" for one second.

[@PilatesbyGina]

He got hosed by Ruby. Period. He should be ashamed.

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

Same. Agree 100%!!

[@LadyBGoode-gr8wm]

He’s prolly Mormon, too. In my experience Mormons are naive and easily deceived and quick to forgive. Ruby knows that.

[@blayworld]

Agreed. Such a WEAK prosecutor. Plea deal for 4-30? Are you kidding me?

[@HilarySecrist-hc3rr]

Absolutely 💯 agree! Ruby has no remorse..if you watch her 8 passenger videos she had a mean/cruel streak..she deserves just as long a sentence as Jodi..perhaps more because she..Ruby..was their mother.

[@kupidsrus1]

If this prosecutor KNEW how horrific these abuses of the children was, WHY in the world are they letting them both receive such light sentences???? SO WRONG!!!

[@Lisa_5591]

Exactly!!!!

[@Renee-wy1po]

Crazy 😧 if they don't get more than 30 years in jail but you know what will happen they might do nothing, 😢rich ppl get off 😔

[@GinaPressley]

Everyone is a Mormon!

[@PhyreReighn]

Its the mormonUTAH way. No division of government, state & religion

[@MissPrettywoman628]

I guess the prison decides the sentence in that state...

[@sherylbarry9143]

Ruby just as twisted as Jodi. She found someone to affirm her. Both need same time in prison.

[@micheles745]

The plea agreement for Ruby that stops the prosecutor from speaking at her parole hearings is just plain wrong. This woman is not a victim. Have you seen her journal entries? Yet they are not going to protest her getting out with the parole board hearings. Why does she deserve different treatment from her co-defendent Jodi? They both need to do a lot of time. Don't fall for the "ruby was manipulated" crap. She's equally as guilty.

[@emma_motema]

The part with the EMT is so sad. I think she says, “I’m going to cry” and then one of the men says, “I know, that’s why I’ve got my shades on”. How those women could do that to a child and think they were right just boggles the mind.

[@BADSEED13]

The husband said they started sleeping in the same bed....so in my opinion there is more than just a "friendship".

[@magneticjanet]

Exactly

[@benitaapplebottom01]

I always felt like they were lovers...their relationship was very strange and gave lovers vs friends

[@Cyko..]

I must've missed it. Who was sleeping with who?

[@DamageControlLLC]

Deviant activities compounded

[@rationallyruby]

The thing tho is they’re super homophobic… it’s such a bizarre relationship

[@cindytaylor7155]

Four years is a joke for what they did to their children . And being OK with 4 years says a lot about you as a lawyer. The state of Utah should be ashamed.

[@LucindaCochran-b6d]

Yes they should get more time than 4 yes

[@meowtotheworld4801]

They will likely get more than 4 years.

[@splinterbyrd]

They were sentenced to 4x 1-15y to run consecutively, so hopefully they'll do the whole 60y and never be released

[@suzannedixon699]

Mormons

[@kristykanen9315]

Oh, poor monsters, they're not going to get their own planets when they die. 🙄 MORMONISM is insanity.

[@LeftieLoosie]

It is an absolute miscarriage of Justice that they were charged so minimally. They tortured those kids, and her journal writings prove that they weren’t going to stop until those kids were unalived. They should never get out. The fact they are even eligible for parole in a few years is disgusting. People are serving life for much less.

[@palace927]

Ruby stated to R," I will keep removing your demons until the day you die."

[@bixbysnyder-00]

Utah is kind of an odd ball among states, where the parole board has great powers when it comes to sentencing. That said, given the evidence, it would be insane for them to parole either of these anim- err, women after only 4 years.

[@aznmochibunny]

​@bixbysnyder-00 From my understanding I thought it was 4 years x15? Could be wrong though

[@bixbysnyder-00]

@@aznmochibunny I looked into it, I think Utah law limits maximum sentence for cases like these to 30 years :( Seems like the law needs to be changed.

[@darscassel]

Yt privilege. We keep telling you guys that.

[@misspatti48]

Has anyone ever seen this family who helped out Russell ? They deserve a huge thank you

[@cdmurphy949]

The prosecutor mentioned they wanted to remain anonymous. They are both heroes in my book. I get tears in my eyes whenever I hear him start speaking. The empathy just pours out of both of them. ❤️

[@hulla3637]

Kevin Franke should NEVER be allowed to have custody of the children under 18 - he states in the phone calls with Ruby in jail - that HE supports Ruby 100 % and will make sure the family/children knows THE TRUTH about Rubys actions/intentions - aka he agrees and will follow in her shoes.! Horrific statement and very concerning that the abuse will continue for these children under his "care" - if he gets/has custody...!

[@aloughman4691]

He was part of the abuse in 8 Passengers.

[@spiritisalive1]

He's a joke. I can't believe they haven't charged him with anything.

[@DonnaNarducci]

He allowed all of this . What kind of father does that ? Keep these children awawaaaaaay from the father . Father is weak .

[@pamelaaustin9021]

Should have charged Ruby with attempted murder based off the journals alone. She’s not remorseful. She’s trying to manipulate the decision makers for her future.

[@jo-annewilkinson5663]

Ruby should not be given any special treatment by the probation board. Ruby is a narcissist, manipulative. That speech was just an act. Not at anytime has she apologized to Russell, Eve, Julie, and Abby. Julie and Abby watched the torture of their younger siblings. The prosecutor and his team should not believe Ruby. That speech was only to make it appear she was remorseful. She is only sorry she was caught. Russell and Eve would be dead if Russell had not escaped when he did. It is not a far fetch notion that Russell and Eve would be dead if Ruby and Jodi was able to move to Arizona.

[@MKUltra42]

I really think they would have been dead within a month. If they’d made it to AZ that would have been it. Lori Vallow & Chad Daybell all over again. And the elephant in the room no one in power wants to talk about.

[@georgewashington3555]

Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke NAIVE NAIVE NAIVE.. falling for Manipulators Compliments.. cmon. you should know better.

[@anniek4919]

It’s too bad the prosecutor believed Ruby. She is a narcissist and said what they wanted to hear. He fell for it.

[@-blahblahblah]

I think so too but I don't think the parole board is as blind to people like Ruby.

[@georgewashington3555]

Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke, you are failing to see a Narcisist manipulator manipulating you.

[@Truth1561]

Ruby was abusing her children before she met Jodi! It was a perfect storm where two cruel individuals came together and enabled one another in their wickedness.

[@38writer]

It brought tears to my eyes how patient the police were and sat with the girl and gave her pizza and something to drink and never tried to rush!!! You are Heroes!!!

[@marquitha-6217]

The nerve of the "dad" wanting custody of them after all of this... Thats evil work.

[@MissPrettywoman628]

Remember his jail calls even after he heard... I'll support you...

[@andreanairvin7724]

ohh that man makes me so mad. Acting like he is the world's greatest dad and I'm like you approved of this abuse before you let yourself get kicked out of your home and then you abandoned your kids. I get that he was manipulated to a degree but you are still a human with a brain and I'm sorry but you made the choice to not even make sure your kids were safe and cared for within that year. Had he checked in or had a court agreement that they kids were checked in on regularly the may very well not have happened. Your oldest daughter cared more about her siblings did than her father.

[@Melyoo]

The most evil

[@jenscheibner792]

He got a year vacation from being a father at his kids' EXPENSE...

[@TheGymnast71]

Totally agree he’s a sicko too! I hope he doesn’t get custody but I bet he wil so sick

[@9eyeswideopen]

Ruby by her own admission in her journal, knew when R escaped the first time if they didn’t find him, they would go to jail, she was not under a delusional cloud. She had clear thoughts of what would happen if the children escaped. So what did she do after that close call she ramped up the abuse to another level. She wised up so very quickly as she stated in her phone call with Julie. She knows exactly what the parole board wants to hear from her. My hope is that the parole board reads her journal, and has her words ringing in their ears as she spins how she is so remorseful now she’s not under Jodie evil spell. For a mother to torture her children because she believes them to be evil, should be shown the mercy she showed her children which was absolutely nil non nada

[@marianburningham2064]

Well said!! Ruby has totally fooled and manipulated this prosecutor. The prosecutor totally feel for Ruby's Oscar winning speech to the Judge when she plead guilty! I hope the parole board doesn't fall for this manipulator!

[@Andidahorea]

Hoping they both get the full 30 years. I’m so heartbroken for those kids 💔

[@AnGel-k9l4s]

Yes!! Maximum time, please! we should sign petitions asking the parole board to give them the maximum time…🙏

[@letsrevieweverything144]

Ruby already got a deal that Jodi didnt. She wont be in long. Its disgusting.

[@k.duelist4913]

30 years? may be 30 x 2 😅

[@crpdr507]

She unfortunately is up for parole in 2027, it’s an insult to justice to basic fairness

[@Swoose17]

The judge should be recalled if they don't get 30 years.

[@rawlyroo5975]

The responders all showed huge compassion and the police showed extreme kindness to all

[@Nyx0npaws]

My guy, you are not wrong to compare it with concentration camp. My grandparents were concentration camp prisoners in Nazi Germany. Their whole lives changed after psychological, mental, emotional abuse they endured. My life as their grandchild was affected by their trauma. These poor children will take whole their lives to recover, then their children and grandchildren will still bear residue of that abuse. These women deserve full 30 years each. Ruby was abusive beforehand, I don't believe a word of her teary eyed written plea. She's a great actress.

[@oogabooga9079]

The mere fact that Jodi was a licensed therapist is straight mind boggling

[@bent12]

mind boggling - darrell brooks

[@terryexpose]

Yeah it's unbelievable and she was funded by mormon church. All she did was funded by mormon church her niece said

[@luciaconn6788]

2012 she was on probation

[@purrr8182]

Not really - therapists are usually the most messed up people

[@Mr_C.Bacteria]

It's terrifying

[@Georgie3463]

Ruby's sentencing speech deserves an Oscar nomination for that performance. She did not mean a word of it. You don't change core beliefs after a few months in prison. She's trying to work the system

[@jacquelineglitter4328]

She pulled the wool over them.

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

Seriously! She’s a sadistic sociopath. She has ZERO remorse. Her “heartfelt speech” is an act and she’s already trying to manipulate the parole board and public. The fact the prosecutor buys her act shows it IS working and is sickening to consider an early release is possible.

[@etoyeparkman1053]

From the few videos that I’ve seen of Ruby and her interaction with her children and her KZbin audience, I think she is too assertive and authoritative to “fall under the spell” of somebody like Jody. I think they were partners in crime and equally guilty

[@user-vc5zx5cg1d]

I so wish they pled not guilty so a jury would convict them for at least 50 years, especially for almost killing those two children. Something needs to change. Abusing children should carry as much penalty as murder. This is HORRIBLE.

[@joannadechenne6368]

Is anyone else feeling like Ruby was doing an Oscar acceptance speech; thanking all the directors, producers and crew 'agreeing to do time'. Then Jodi saying she didn't want the kids to testify - translation - SHE DIDN'T WANT TO DO LIFE IN PRISON. Neither of these women are truly sorry. They are outraged and indignant that they got caught. Ruby KNEW she had to hit her knees and act remorseful for a better sentence - she says it in the recorded phone calls. If they don't each get at least 30+ years for this .... I can't even deal.

[@adoral.libertucci2647]

Absolutely. Especially after hearing her jail calls. She’s calculating, controlling, manipulative, and evil.

[@cynthiaconnors183]

Yeah. She sounded soooo fake!!

[@redessa01]

Unfortunately, 30 yrs is the cap in Utah. Hopefully they serve that whole sentence, but there's no chance it will be more than 30.

[@thejanetflights7396]

The way the neighbour started saying"well, what are they" in a curmudgeonly way when Russel asked for a favour, and then when he broke down on the phone to 911 when he realized the reality of what he was seeing is extra heartbreaking😭

[@ambersm6986]

I agree!! It really shocked me

[@naomi22322]

this is absolutely horrible what they did to those kids. I have been following this case for years and always knew something was up. Wishing those kids the best in their long journey of healing, thank you to everyone working on this channel who has been covering and bringing awareness to this case.

[@bjswaggssecondchannel2497]

both of them should have been sentenced to life

[@naomi22322]

@@bjswaggssecondchannel2497 I couldn’t agree more, they did not get nearly enough time for everything they did, both physically and psychologically.

[@kathyrama4570]

These kids can't live enough years to get over this. This will always be there.

[@shiftysam007]

This is gonna take so many years of therapy to get over the trauma that E and R went through.

[@maloyo7901]

Ruby's 'I want to thank the Academy' speech is really disgusting. It is worse every time I hear it.

[@fernlow4235]

It was so cringey. I have never seen this kind of speech in a english court! Ruby is not right in nthe head!!

[@tiasara5967]

She’s disgusting. The church needs to be harshly investigated as well. All churches need to based on the historic dangers they present.

[@georgewashington3555]

the fact that an educated experienced Prosecutor is falling for Rubys compliments is ... quite ridiculous. Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke wake up.

[@RSSsmommie]

She should never get to see those kids again, the father either, for the children's mental health alone.

[@DamageControlLLC]

The father is a victim.

[@simplydanlrene4276]

@@DamageControlLLC No he is not. He was there when a lot of ugly things were going on like not giving them food, not giving some of the kids any Christmas presents and they had to sit and watch the older kids open their presents...he was there. He just wasn't in the worst of it but it is all bad.

[@hikingwiththedog6078]

@@DamageControlLLC That's what I used to think, too. But then I saw videos of the father back when they had their KZbin channel, and he was such a jerk to those kids. He and Ruby were abusive parents way before they met Jodi. Meeting Jodi just escalated the abuse. The dad's a creep.

[@sammysunshine4884]

Kevin supposedly has custody of the kids right now 😮

[@CurvyCass1982]

​@@DamageControlLLChe plays victim. He isn't one though. His children are? Where was he ? Fathers protect their children, he's a weak loser.

[@susankennedy7280]

The biggest thank you to those two neighbors the saved these children's lives

[@catme13]

Well the little boy saved themselves

[@suzerick75116]

Jodi: She didn’t love those kids. She intentionally abused those children. Imagine if she bought remote property. Those children would have been deceased within a few weeks.

[@bec.11]

Those children would have been dead. They should never be let out of jail. They both knew what they were doing, Ruby little speech was such an act, and Mr. Prosecutor, you have been taken for a ride if you think Ruby was remorseful

[@deborahpoole9710]

They both should have been charged with attempted murder. That’s what they were systematically doing- killing those kids, and they would have if that brave boy wouldn’t have escaped. No parole please for those precious kids sakes!

[@-MattMcCauley-]

Had Jodi actually purchased that large parcel of AZ land those kids would be dead now, no question in my mind.

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

Seriously! She’s a sadistic sociopath. She has ZERO remorse. Her “heartfelt speech” is an act and she’s already trying to manipulate the parole board and public. The fact the prosecutor buys her act shows it IS working and is sickening to consider an early release is possible.

[@alisemullins4994]

Correct. And Ruby was going to use money stolen from her children's bank accounts to make the down payment. Ruby was going to use her children's money to buy a ranch to kill them. What is wrong with this prosecutor that he cannot see how calculating Ruby's actions are? @@-MattMcCauley-

[@BostonEsq]

They were never sentenced to jail.

[@Kiraj8de]

Make no mistake. Ruby viewed her children as possessions for her to manipulate and play with long before Jodi came into the picture. There is years of video evidence proving that. All Jodi did was unleash the beast, and give Ruby permission to physically harm her kids on top of the emotional abuse, and neglect.

[@ML-kp2ib]

The neighbor that called 911 mentioned there were issues at that (Jodi's) house...... Why isn't anyone talking about those known issues?

[@jennydiver100]

Exactly. IMO officials knew about this well before and only stepped in when they absolutely had to because outsiders (neighbors) and the press found out.

[@MKUltra42]

The neighbors said the children were always outside working in the hot sun. They thought that was strange. Apparently not strange enough to call CPS. 😠

[@Hadacattoo2]

I think the Mormon church helped a lot to shelter them and Lori vallow. A lot of things get swept under the rug or overlooked with that church and their breakoff groups.​@@jennydiver100

[@michelleb7399]

I don’t think the neighbors in Jodi’s area were reporting things. There had been calls to Ruby’s house before. That’s probably part of the reason she moved all her kids into Jodi’s house. Probably Jodi’s neighbors had heard the yelling and screaming that was leading the monsters to look for even more secluded property in Arizona but never called authorities.

[@MKUltra42]

@@winterseagull I can’t imagine how scared and frustrated she felt. The cops said they’d go to the house and they KNEW the kids were in there but they wouldn’t answer the door so they just left!! Their excuse was they couldn’t get a judge to sign off on a search warrant. When there are children’s lives in danger, you don’t need a search warrant! If this hadn’t been a wealthy neighborhood in Springville UT you know they would’ve been busting down that door.

[@sowhat515]

As she was on the phone with her husband, she asked him, are we on the news yet. 🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@jo-annewilkinson5663]

Russell escaping when he did, before Ruby and Jodi could finalize the land purchase and move saved their lives.

[@emilydavis9915]

he’s such a brave kid.

[@lunajohnson9149]

Exactly and to be honest, if RF didn't come to the rescue, EF, and maybe even him, would probably be dead due to further malnourishment and torture.

[@lindsayb1329]

Right. Those poor kids would have been in the middle of nowhere.

[@jacquelineglitter4328]

Arizona isn't as remote as people think. There are many people who are out 4 wheeling, hiking or riding horses.

[@boracaydreams]

The ring video gets me all the time. It must be the first time the child felt real, heart-felt compassion.

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

Same. IMHO, it was simultaneously heartbreaking and heartwarming to watch the video: on one hand, it's awe-inspiring & heartbreaking to hear how polite and respectful that poor boy was despite the horrific and cruel behavior that had been modeled to him...but at the same time, for me at least, hearing that gentleman spontaneously burst into tears with the 911 dispatcher was such a beautiful testament to compassion & humanity in the face of such a confusingly bizarre situation. It would have been so easy for him to simply write the whole thing off as a prank or say, "this is none of my business; the boy says it's personal, so I'll just call Jodi to pick him up. I'm sure it's just a rebellious, spoiled kid trying to get his mom & her friend into trouble..." but instead he took the time to take a closer look and kindly ask the boy what he needed. I hope that that gentleman knows just how much it warmed my heart to hear the naked empathy in his voice, knowing that it may we'll have been the first time *ever* that that poor child had experienced such unconditional care and concern.

[@cryscket]

@@maneckineckbeard1749I’d give anything to hear that full ring video

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

@@cryscket Same. But then, I'm not sure I could handle it! Just hearing what's been released is so heartbreaking... I've literally had dreams about this!

[@irant1681]

Those of us who don't live in gated communities know full well there's a 2 tier justice system, but hearing this prosecutor say, with absolutely no shame, that DV and child abuse happens in 'poor communities' and not rich ones....wow. Someone is just a liiiitle out of touch.

[@MKUltra42]

Typical upper class LDS man.

[@Lisa_5591]

Omg, he says that? WTH?

[@mommynab]

Yes!! I finally see why he fell for her act. She doesn't fit his idea of a criminal. This was million dollar homes, so rich people aren't capable of DV.😕

[@sandyjay276]

And that's why CPS failed them too... took one look at the house, the neighborhood, saw no blood or broken bones.... and then just walked away. I mean the boy didn't have blood or broken bones showing and look at what was brought to light!

[@Timmsy]

All communities

[@user-vc5zx5cg1d]

Ruby was NOT a BLIND follower. She KNEW what she wanted to do to those kids. Also, Jodi KNEW what she was doing was abusive and wrong. This man is dead wrong about these two women. According to the relative who spoke anonymously very early on in this case stated that Ruby's immediate family was also abusive, handcuffing their kids, etc. This was obviously part of Ruby's family and, in my opinion, Jodi is like a Chad Daybell. She is a controlling cult leader, and Ruby is also a controlling abusive woman. They both fed off of one another.

[@cfp11]

You are exactly right.

[@laurenc2976]

He's actually flattered that Ruby thanked him in her speech! Wow... she duped him so bad

[@jennycoyle8204]

I’m shocked at how much he believes her 🤦‍♀️

[@trixiebeldon579]

Kevin should NOT enjoy the privilege of being a custodial parent. Parents need to have a brain AND a backbone, and he has neither. He should be in prison Both females should be serving life without parole in shackles

[@-MattMcCauley-]

He hasn't even been charged with a crime, let alone convicted of one. Your emotions are insufficient to throw a person into prison, sorry.

[@JaneDoe-ng3zm]

​@@-MattMcCauley-GUILT BY ASSOCIATION HE SHOULD NEVER GET NEAR THOSE KIDS HE CARES MORE ABOUT MONSTER RUBY THAN HIS CHILDREN IF HE WAS A PARENT THIS WOULD NEVER HAD HAPPEN HE FAILED AT PROTECTING HIS CHILDREN FAILED!!!!! HE SHOULD NEVER GET NEAR THESE KIDS THESE KIDS DESERVE BETTER, LET THEM BE IN THE CARE OF KIND LOVING SANE ADULTS

[@-MattMcCauley-]

@@JaneDoe-ng3zm Yeah, typing your emotions using capital letters is not making an argument, let alone citing any actual crime as defined by UT or federal statute. Your comment is just gibberish. BTW, he has not lost his parental rights and UT cannot just withhold his children indefinitely without giving him due process, that is not my opinion, it is the UT law.

[@JaneDoe-ng3zm]

@@-MattMcCauley- UT law says it ALL,stick up for these monsters any other state even CA would lock these monsters up even the dad he neglected his chidren and left them with a woman that abuses starves and tortures children IF MY POST IS GIBBERISH WATCH THE VIDEOS OF THE RESCUE OF THESE POOR CHILDREN A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS AND ONLY A MONSTER SIDES WITH MONSTERS, MONSTER

[@karenhoehn1897]

@@-MattMcCauley-yeah nothin to pin on that pansy of a man..poor kids

[@BufordPusser582]

What is amazing about this state's bizarre penal system is that Ruby and Jodi, for that matter, could be out after serving only 4 years??? Absolutely unacceptable. They should both be held for at least 20 years.

[@Lisajed]

Yep it's sickening thatthey could get only 4 years, possibly paroled in 2 years???

[@CrustyUgg]

Most states are like that ...

[@irisenamorado]

No, that is easy. Probably won't be granted.

[@BOOKKAT74]

We had a case in Canada where 22 year old Tim McLean was stabbed, beheaded and cannibalized on a greyhound bus. The killer was found not criminally responsible because he was schizophrenic. He was held only 6 years in a psychiatric facility. He has changed his name and lives in Winnipeg. Never assume that these two will not be released early.

[@ifchi7842]

Ruby was abusing her children before she met Jodi, the another monster. They should rot in jail.

[@GinaPressley]

Do not let Kevin have those children, he is under the control of Ruby.

[@oneofmany7051]

True. I think he still thinks that Jodi is to blame and he could still be easily manipulated by Ruby.

[@kodigemma3359]

He divorced Ruby and even if Ruby gets out in 4 years (unlikely), she will still be prohibited from contact with the kids. It will take a long time for Kevin to regain custody, if he ever does. He will, at minimum, be required to complete an extensive case plan to prove that he is fit to have custody.

[@sandyjay276]

He would punish them for putting her in jail...

[@CurvyCass1982]

​@@sandyjay276true

[@kodigemma3359]

@@sandyjay276 How do you know this? He’s divorced her and according to Ruby in her jail calls Kevin has refused contact with her since the 2nd day of her arrest.

[@theskincareskinny5006]

I can’t believe this guy is dense enough to believe Ruby Franke truly regrets her actions. The only thing she’s sorry about is getting caught. Some men just can’t see beyond a pretty face. If she was ugly, I guarantee he would not hold the same opinion. Its wild.

[@maureenmetcalfe8558]

I thought the same thing.

[@jennig8824]

I wasn't surprised, why didn't Ruby apologise to her children first, for the awful horrific torture, but she thanked everyone else before she mentioned them at all. She is playing the court, she was not innocent before she met Jodie

[@Mama2CDHsurvivor]

I was waiting for her to thank the Academy next

[@raypeters4525]

THE DEVIL IS NOT IN THE CHIDREN, THE DEVIL IS IN JODI AND RUBY !

[@Sassfire]

This reminds me of the Vallow and Daybell case. I will never understand how people harm their children like this. Thankfully these kids made it out alive.

[@onlyonethingisneedful]

Yes I am thankful they were rescued because it is the same trajectory of the Daybell tragedy

[@SD0224]

Both Jodi and Ruby shared the same extreme religious beliefs as Vallow and Daybell . They socialised with the some of the same people in the LDS church and bought into same beliefs outlined in the LDS book “ visions of glory “. That’s why it’s so similar .

[@Chihiro33333]

OMG, this was exactly what I was afraid of: that Ruby was going to be able to manipulate the prosecution to believe that she is a victim too, and that Jody is the sole villain. That the prosecutor sits in this video and says just that, shows that they did a poor job looking into this. ”It took us two weeks to understand the relationship between these two”. It should not have taken them a full day to look into all evidence there are on KZbin to get their relationship. And to understand that the abuse of the children started long before Jodi stepped in (and most probably were involved in increasing the severity) and that the abuse was conducted when both parents were present. My impression of Ruby is that she is severly narcissistic, and she was probably ill treated as a child and has under long time surpressed her anger for that. So she is projecting her anger and the need for control on her children. Jodi came along and validated Ruby’s right to abuse the children and by that they both escalated the situation to terror beyond belief. I am really worried that ignorant people in law inforcement, like this prosecutor, will make it possible for Ruby to be out of prison far too soon, and reunited with her poor children.

[@creativian68]

I listened to the recorded phone calls R made from prison. First she called her estranged husband and she was clearly emotional and not focused. The man said: you do realize this call is being recorded. In the subsequent recorded calls R was clearly calm and well articulated. I felt that she spoke like she was on a theatre stage and that she used the calls to paint a picture of herself as the victim.

[@nancyjones9404]

Well said and I agree as many others do, he is a milk sop.

[@stratocasterblue]

Even if youve been told or manipulated how don't you know not to do this, bunch of bs

[@sleeplessannie]

I agree, I think she's already manipulating how to get out on probation as early as possible

[@buckz55]

when the neighbor started to almost cry when he was on with 911 .... you know its a horrible case

[@sharonashcraft6358]

These poor kids. You NEVER withhold food from a child as punishment

[@brittneyromanski1153]

I hope this detective realizes that Ruby is alot more accountable than hes making it seem... He cant be that naive .

[@teraallan]

Unfortunately he is the prosecutor which is very scary!

[@debbyelkins4240]

There is no soul in Ruby’s eyes

[@maureenmetcalfe8558]

They look dead, don't they. Jodi Arias had the same unemotional eyes.

[@catharperfect7036]

Manson lamps.

[@JanisMB]

Those are the coldest eyes I have ever seen. Full of death and evil.

[@jarcha4200]

Love how the prosecutor says poor people abuse their kids more than rich people (crime occurs more in the low income communities). What a complete jerk. Apparently no one has taught him that domestic abuse is an equal opportunity crime. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@catherinewilson4551]

I thought he meant it was reported more in low income communities. I might have misheard.

[@etoyeparkman1053]

He’s probably right as far as the statistics go…although doesn’t mean child abuse doesn’t happen in higher income families. However They might want to look at the stats for Mormon families… A lot of these recent criminal cases involve Mormon families and their belief system.

[@thaispiazza4278]

Feels like he is at a bar talking to a friend - no filter. 😅

[@InspireFreedomForever]

​@@etoyeparkman1053 if a family with no money living in a shack filmed the same exact content Ruby did nobody would watch it. At least not for the same reasons. People who don't look like Ruby don't get away with as much. That's the society we live in.

[@Mightymouse-k8o]

I guess he's never heard of the Mendez brothers

[@almariekuit56]

I got huge online pushback years ago when I said that letting her child starve at school was disgusting abuse. I couldn't believe how many people came for me! 😮Just shows you how many wicked people are out there.

[@LFNikita]

*The impact statement Ruby read in court was composed by her attorney’s P.R. team. Not one word was written or spoken from her heart. She is disingenuous to her core, caring only for her release; not rehabilitation. Sadly, the most Ruby will do is 15 months to three years.*

[@kayleneopperman9928]

The child’s teacher being uncomfortable with her not having lunch shows at least the teacher had compassion for the child. So sad.

[@mjremy2605]

Teacher should have called CPS!!!

[@samashbloom3230]

@@mjremy2605 CPS was called multiple times over the years.

[@Lotusflo90]

Well being uncomfortable and actually DOING something about it is 2 different things

[@Katprint]

Yes, multiple people, including neighbors and relatives, called CPS on numerous occasions.

[@sarahkeppler8043]

If i was the teacher, i would have given E a lunch, even if Ruby told me not to and i would have reported her. I teach kindergarden/nursery and we give kids extra food on a regular basis (some families have not enough money, some forget 😢...) nobody goes hungry on our watch!

[@AliceBowie]

Ruby was so disconnected from reality that she actually thought she was doing the right thing by treating her kids like she did. Ruby was a malignant narcissist, but it was really when she connected with Jodi that things went to this extreme level. When two psychos get together, they push each other to go further than they would on their own. It's nuts that they were making money from giving parenting advice with their podcast and classes. This case was pure insanity.

[@ellaella5537]

Jody just gave her the permission to be as abusive as she always wanted to be. Ruby is the most manipulative one in my book. Her little Oscar speech was disgusting

[@GinaPressley]

Ruby knew she was wrong, that's why she hid them away.

[@400_billion_suns]

@@ellaella5537Totally agree with you.

[@tomservo110]

Seeing Jodi's massive house, no doubt funded by abuse, was nauseating

[@SD0224]

Ruby was a sadist well before connecting with Jodi

[@YaakovEzraAmiChi]

As a Jew I think it was an okay thing to say. Saying the kids went under a concentration camp. That boys legs were like the legs of the victims when they were liberated and photographed! It’s sick.

[@babayagalight]

This prosecutor gave them both a pass on the serious counts of starving E and R. They would have been dead if R had not escaped.

[@karenr411]

Read her diary entries and was so triggered that I had to stop! This person should not be allowed near children!!! The damage that has been done will be so difficult for these kids to recover from. Sickening

[@Tawadeb]

How do I find them?

[@seraphcreed840]

I wish the prosecutor spent the time to read those two with such a lenient sentence.

[@Rey-it3sg]

Ruby literally wrote about beating her youngest daughter until she urinated all over the basement floor then forced her to clean it. Monster. Period. Don't forget.

[@Margarethelen67]

They are evil.

[@Hellena_Keningale]

“Hopefully nobody will give her lunch” “the natural outcome is not to have lunch”, allow me to throw up at these statements 🤮