ALL OF R/F**KIMOLD

[@Jack-o-smasher]

Even as a gen Z, I get nightmares of people saying 'okay Zoomer' and good god, I don't think I'll ever recover if it actually happens.

[@SouthwesternEagle]

Okay Zoomer. :p

[@shinisnotonfire]

ok zoomer 💀 (same though)

[@the.mr.schrader]

I’m from the first year of Gen-Z (‘98), and I have been called a Zoomer only by older people. I dread the day when a kid calls me a Zoomer.

[@carbonunit3191]

🤔 I’m x and for some reason, to use the modern vernacular, it just “hits different”. Yes I know the lingo. Now get off my damn lawn!

[@Bananstrawberry]

Jesus Christ

[@natalie022]

Im gen z, i stopped keeping up with slang when “slay” became a thing, and no way in hell am i going to use “skibidi” in every day lingo 💀

[@Planet2763real]

No way in hell am I using Gen Alpha slang

[@cubechan1938]

No way in hell man, even goddamn "bogus" is better

[@deleted_handle]

what the sigma r u yapping about

[@natalie022]

@@deleted_handle i experienced one of those in the wild 💀

[@LelandDavenport-i8u]

Same here

[@theominouspigeon]

my brain: "f**k I mold

[@BroIDontReallyKnow]

Same

[@WantedPencil]

Oh no, green stuff from month old sandwich grows faster than expected

[@zekeiguess6250]

That was me

[@mackback319]

being moldy can be a sign of age, so it works

[@DittosUniverse]

Same lol I was just about to comment that

[@r.lyster8280]

I was born in 1965 and we didn't drink Gatorade as kids. We drank from the garden hose. Back then Gatorade was a drink for athletes. It wasn't until the 80s that regular people started drinking it. Also, the original Gatorade tasted like a$$.

[@Battlesny]

I was born in 90, and drinking from the garden hose was still normal. Also, picking carrots or rubarb and eating them right after hosing them down.

[@shaunalennon3144]

Oh so like energy drinks.

[@r.lyster8280]

@@Battlesny There was always rubarb growing wild when I was a kid and we always ate it too. 😄

[@thebabysleepingpanda]

I was born in 2007 and still drank from the garden hose when I was younger

[@Vaionko]

Born in 2004 and drank from a garden hose yesterday lol.

[@matrixster6238]

The moment the “Heads Up/Seven Up” bit came, it hit me super hard, that was THE classroom game to play when I was in school…

[@caramelizedout]

42:22 the expectation that I, 16, shouldn't know what that kind of doorstop is or have the sound it makes permanently etched into my brain because of my cats......

[@NeonBeeCat]

Im 20 and my mom would get really pissed off at me laying on the floor repeatedly pushing it back and forth

[@lucassworldofletsplays9270]

​@@NeonBeeCatSame here, and I'm 17!

[@acorlan145]

I’ve seen them in a recently constructed place

[@samhebrank1903]

I played with that for hours at my beachhouse

[@motionless_horizon]

19 and I still have those in my home, the “thwunununung” sound will never leave my mind lmao

[@asmariamoon]

1:20:40 This is a disk defragmenter. Platter-based hard drives used to have a lot less care about where they put all the segments of each program or file you stored on them, so there would be little pieces of program scattered all over the drive. This helped organize all of those pieces of each program into the same relative space on the disk. Modern-day hard drives have a lot less trouble with this problem, thanks to the operating system being more picky about telling the hard drive where to store files, but it can still help to run defrag every year or so, especially if you still have a platter-based drive, as opposed to an SSD.

[@redshirt49]

The other reason is that starting with Windows 7, it would automatically run defragmentation in the background without telling you. It still does in fact. SSDs technically don't require defragmentation, but Windows still does it anyway.

[@smorrow]

The thing about being 35 is, everyone you interact with that "should be" older than "the main character" in your life STILL IS (a police constable, librarians, bus drivers...), so as long as you're childless and still wearing hoodies and t-shirts, you really do go around still thinking you're 23 until specific things like these hit you.

[@medic-gg7jo]

27:00 It's definitely not a sailboat. It does have a "mast" and 2 "fenders" tho. LMAO

[@JMon2021]

Ah! Came to the comments to see if anyone else tried to see what it was.

[@chadyoutubeenjoyer2387]

Bro same 😭

[@zaibian7]

I thought it was a canon. Fully locked and loaded.🍆🥚🥚

[@phillystruck9003]

21:30 ngl, I wish that dvds and such were as common as they used to be, didn't have to worry about streaming services tossing them out, could search by the scene, rather than fast forwarding forever, and sometimes they would even have a lil game or two to play, sometimes being as good as the games online

[@justapanpirate]

Same, I still get them for my favourite shows if they get released. I want to be able to watch them whenever, not just for as long as the streaming site deems them relevant enough.

[@Vintagecollectibles]

5:49 I may not be that old, but if you find me in my room, you’ll be watching me play 3-D space pinball

[@Vintagecollectibles]

Edit: I’m 12

[@pranjalsharma1665]

The Windows XP one?! I'm just 17 but now I feel 30.

[@TheDarwinProject1]

20:57 ADHD version: We had personal phone/address books &/or only memorized a few phone numbers other than our own. We knew our way around our own town but had no clue what most roads we traveled down were called. We wandered off in stores or places we weren't familiar with. We had no way of calling anyone in an emergency, if we didnt know where we were, & no one could call us if we werent near a phone. We were lost a lot, had our names called over store speakers to reunite with our family, & missed out on a lot by waiting by the phone or missing out on being invited to fun things if we were outside all day. Most of us neurodivergent girls also missed out on a good, trauma free childhood because no one noticed we were struggling from undiagnosed ADHD/AuDHD.

[@LuchinoBruttomesso]

5:52 legit an ad popped up when the mouse clicked

[@richardcolvert689]

I remember when it was 2010, my dad still had an old Windows 98 model computer, and he told me, "Back in the day, the computer hurt you when you hit it. Now, the computer hurts you, and you hurt it"

[@nebbyott]

Heads up Seven up is the name, Heads down Thumbs up is the instruction. Also it wasn't being played for fun, it was a tactic for the teacher to see who the cheaters were

[@panzerwolf494]

I'm old enough to remember when the hotwheels cars in happy meals were actual hot wheels cars you could also buy in stores

[@TheMNWolf]

They stopped making Royal Crown a couple years ago. There was a big protest from like... five people that actually wanted to drink it still.

[@corydon01]

Mold only belongs on food

[@antiodergaming6976]

DPD!... You're under arrest for making a bad pun.

[@toolittletoolate3917]

I was born in 1950, and I’m here to inform all of you whippersnappers that cold water out of a garden hose is the best and most refreshing beverage of all time. Fight me!

[@RazorSharpMC]

The “I’ll paint any car, any color” slogan was used when the majority of the population (US) drove a Ford Model T which was exclusively painted in black enamel so this dates back to the 1910s to 1920s

[@missing_link918]

Because black was the cheapest color to make a car in lmao

[@RazorSharpMC]

@@missing_link918 no the cheapest color would’ve been the color of the metal used to make the car. They didn’t have to paint it. And it wasn’t even painted black because it was cheap they did it for efficiency and uniformity (they didn’t want to hire painters)

[@Tadfafty]

Fun fact, the "black is the only color" only applied for a few of the 20 years that the Ford T was in production.

[@emeraldqueen1994]

50:50 I remember that, you would dial the numbers to spell “POPCOR” 🍿

[@sleeping-at-night]

11 MINUTES BABY!!!! EMKAY IS THE BESTTTTT

[@Maya1_404]

1:25 I love how I’m probably younger than this person yet I understand burning cds :3

[@RainbowFlowerCrow]

26:35 I needed *3* Swanson dinners to be satisfied, and I was a skinny girl! My older brother added so much bread and extra hotdogs and cheese, because the meal portions weren't filling enough for after school snacks, let alone dinners lol😅

[@hamburger_eatspie]

3:08 OREGON TRAIL CD??? NAH THATS AWESOME!!! WHERE CAN I GET ONE???

[@RemiOrdonez-ho3rf]

18:04 Kenny it’s heads up seven up and you can’t convince me otherwise also if they don’t play this anymore then it must be pretty recent (I played it in 4th grade fresh fresh man now) EDIT:fourth grade was 2019 for me

[@Snoogee]

88 views in 2 minutes? Fell on? Fell on.

[@Mystic__MoonYT]

I actually successfully beat the Organ trail game in two tries… I have no idea how but my history teacher gave it as a bonus assignment and well yeah first time I didn’t make it but I got there the second time

[@FragNade]

27:00 oml that caught me off guard so much 😂😂 I saw the “top” and instantly knew what it was! “I still don’t see the sailboat” all I’m saying it’s defo not a sailboat.

[@thisdudeBen]

18:40 I started one of these this year. Yes I got a new book that came into the library. Anybody curious, it was "escape room". I forgot the artist name and it's pretty cool

[@1jotun136]

You're repeating yourself grandpa.

[@feistsorcerer2251]

Lots of people still drank from the garden hose in the summer well past when Gatorade was made. I was a kid in the 90s and that was common where I lived. Gatorade was an extra expense that people weren't going to shell out for. You'd drink from the garden hose while still outside, and when you came in there'd be a big pitcher of koolaid or iced tea or lemonade to drink from. Something dirt cheap to make

[@Happymali10]

10:02 The meme is about push-starting a car with a dead battery. You can push-start a manual. You can't push-start an automatic.

[@melissajacobs5822]

Thank you for saying this, sometimes i actually do get irritated with his comments 🥴

[@tennickjestzajety69]

but watch on your valve train, it could potentially break down when you try to push-start too many times

[@skyirwin1445]

1:20:40 Disk defragmentation for magnetic hard disk drives. Checked for corrupted sectors and improved efficiency.

[@skyirwin1445]

1:23:32 Holy crap, my childhood rushing back at me. I loved those stickers. They would get scratched so much the ink and scent would wear off.

[@SuV33358]

High five!! I was a smelly sticker child myself. And puffy stickers!

[@sqdJetz]

42 secs ago😩👌

[@j.p.6932]

58:02 The show was “You Can’t Do That on Television,” and a young Alanis Morisette was on it briefly

[@skyirwin1445]

1:02:56 It is a floor mounted dimmer switch for your high beam headlights, so you don't blind oncoming traffic.

[@smashmonster6929]

18:00 Who here was also the kid who didn’t play the game, and instead just sat back and held back the urge to tell the dude next to you who picked them

[@thisdudeBen]

17:57 I still play this in high school. I played it all the way back in elementary and I played it in Middle School. I'm late gen. Z I don't see how people think that this just disappeared.

[@ThisOldSkater]

11:40 Mine had little notches on the records because the tone arm had metal teeth in it that were plucked by the notches like a music box.

[@Butterscotch_96]

I’m only 15 and I already feel old.

[@LeftLefttheGecko]

i still remember when my dad had a beeper. It was hot pink and was made of that cool see-through plastic that you could see the hardware inside. Honestly can we like bring that plastic back? It was a cool aesthetic.

[@SuV33358]

Yes! My hubby had the clear teal one. I was so happy I could finally nag him from afar! Lol (we're divorced now 😏)

[@TikkaQrow]

1:31:20 CRT = no input lag You see everything about 1-2 frames faster than any LCD or OLED TV on the market. Those milliseconds mean something at the top of the skill ceiling in competitive games.

[@fruitbattery]

21:40 It didn't, but I have an answer. It would be the menu screen for Tori Amos' live dvd/documentary 'Welcome To Sunny Florida", because it was just the sound of rain, so it just looped really nicely without making you jump when it restarted

[@VanillaBean2023]

1:20:42 that looks like a program that copies floppy disks. Before computers had hard drives, you'd have to run a program if you only had one disk drive. The computer would read the source disk for a while, and then prompt you to change the disk in the drive to the target drive, then write to that disk. I don't remember how many times you had to switch back and forth. I didn't really use it, but I remember watching my brothers doing it to share Commodore 64 games with their friends.

[@HakutoYung]

I was born in 2004, near the beginning of Gen Z, I had VHS, DVD, LANDLINES, Windows XP and mix-tapes. My parents just had all of it laying around and still working until my young brother was born in 2010. All of this is my childhood and I am freaking proud of it because I can tell Gen Alpha's and they would either believe me and tell their friends and their friends would think they were liars or they wouldn't believe me. Either way, I can tell them that Gen Z lived WITH the Millennials. I can control the information.

[@malawianalphawolf]

I'm Gen Z, born in 2000, I swear I'm in the middle of being proud that I went through the same thing Late 80s and early 90s kids went through, and feeling pissed that I'm regularly getting weird ass looks whenever I bring up something from my childhood that is 'Too 90s' for someone like me. Like watching Small Soldiers and Back to the future on VCR.

[@Vaionko]

16:10 Funny how you can hear the hard drive even though that computer doesn't have one. Just dual floppies baby!

[@alecrisser12]

26:12 My dad started writing software in the '70s, and he still is today.

[@markusTegelane]

burning CDs is exactly what it sounds like the laser literally burns holes on the disc to store the data

[@Killerthemerc]

as a gen z myself to burn a cd you need a desktop with a cd drive and you have to download the songs onto the disc from online it used to take hours to burn one song onto a cd

[@justapanpirate]

Nah, not a regular cd-drive, you needed a special one, and it did not take hours to burn one song, lmao. If it did no one would’ve burned whole ass albums and movies.

[@hellothered7412]

40:13 i just have a "You unlock a childhood memory" moment. I'm not that old but gosh i love that show.

[@NovaEmberlyn]

42:23 door stopper, i played with it alot

[@ytadventurer9170]

29:24 I'm starting to see kids with mullets again. "We need to bring bullying back." I fell off my walker.

[@andeeharry]

I know times change, but we have changed a lot in ten years. You know, a lot of things have disappeared and replaced and it is pretty crazy how quickly forget stuff. I know I was warned about it long ago, but never believed it. In fact, the old Stereo 8 system has just been declared obsolete. Back in my day, you could voice control it and freak people out. It was a huge great thing once

[@imboredig]

47:25 I want to say 2005-2008. I remember having the apple pies and then they got seasonal ones, like pumpking or birthday cake. Then they just stopped.

[@naugle67]

I love the Lord of the Rings reference because I grew up watching The Hobbit as an animated cartoon movie on TV.

[@thehangmansdaughter1120]

Film time at school!!! I remember that, it was the best 45 minutes of the week. I had forgotten about it (late 70's). Thanks for the reminder.

[@SuV33358]

I used to love when it was a really thick reel because you knew it would last 2 days lol

[@misscuttlefish]

My dad is a boomer, but was technologically ahead of his time. He became part of the I.T. department of his work because they made an I.T. department, and he knew some stuff about computers. However, he has a personal vendetta for some reason against cellphones lol. He still doesn't have one. Has a Chromebook, has a tablet, no cellphone. Not even a flip phone like my mom has. He was offered a blackberry in the mid 2000's from his work. He said to his boss, "ok, so this is a work phone. So it stays at work when I clock out." His boss was just like "you can just tell me you don't want the phone."

[@hamburger_eatspie]

I hate to say this, but I never knew what 'Golden Girls' was until I think my mom told me about it.

[@ampisbadatthis]

I'm 21 and I relate to half or more of these, even the ones supposedly from the 1950s/60s, obviously not in the same way or with the exact same brands, but the same product/concept/idea, it's not always an age thing, it's just circumstances. Some pelople really just want to feel superior for nostalgia. Obviously not most of the people on the sub, but 50s, 30s, 20s, teens, most people can relate to other people's experiences, especially if they were lucky enough (like me) to have a wealth of them to draw from. It just feels like a lot of people either can't/won't accept that that's a good thing (most of the time)

[@AFNacapella]

11:26 I mean he is a _sociology_ prof and beyond the practical use of actually getting what your students say (even if you're not supposed to), there might even be scientific value in a history of teen slang.

[@Enby_Ember]

i am a zoomer and i grew up on VHS because I'm from the middle of nowhere and i have many fond memories of going to the DVD store to rent a new release for movie night on the weekend

[@iffracem]

I was born in 1960, I remember when "cassette tapes" were all new and magical. Schools banned the use of "electronic calculators" as they were considered cheating. I asked what about an abacus.. that's a calculator, is that cheating.. got told to stop being a smart arse and got sent to visit the Principal. When you filled up your car with petrol (gasoline to you 'Muricans) you could put in "super" (with lead) "standard" (no lead) or some pumps had a selector where you could "mix and match" (always used 50/50.. I'm like that) $5 filled the tank to the brim. Now.... over $100. Colour TV being introduced was biggest thing ever (Now I haven't turned on a TV for over a decade....) they used to show a "test signal' at the end of the days viewing and before the first program (programming stopped around 10pm to midnight usually) At about 7:30pm they would play a lullaby and show a child being put to sleep. Then they could program shows with some naughty words and slightly suggestive themes for the "grown ups". All the kids shows and cartoons were full of punching, hitting, shooting, blowing up, dropping anvils on heads... Now all banned, because of violence and young minds you know.. Can't say the ban helped much. But "Teletubbies" is a thing now WTF?... I want some of the drugs they were on when they came up with that. Remember buying Commodore Vic 20 computer in the '80's... displayed on a TV, everything had to be manually typed to get anything to work. If you wanted to save a file/program.. it was to a cassette tape. Yep, same ones used for music. All the telephones were attached to walls with wires, or bolted to the inside of a box on the footpath (Ok sidewalk..'Murica) I went everywhere by foot or bus until I joined the Army at 16 I actually survived for decades without having to have a mobile constantly available. Don't get me wrong, I love the GPS, Music and Camera they all have. The thought of a small, portable device that let you see and talk to another person, across the other side of the world, in real time no less was the stuff of science fiction I like to imagine how someone who saw the birth of heavier than air flight feels in a modern passenger jet. Imagine leaving work and there's next to no chance that the boss would try and contact you.. because for most of the time they couldn't. And yet business and the country were thriving. You could go to the movie theatre and see a full feature movie plus a "support feature" for a couple of dollars. (Hands up who remembers "Cisco and Pancho"... nope.. nobody?) Drive in theatres were a thing... and awesome thing at that. F^ck I'm old. But they weren't all the "good old days', al lot of it was pretty shitty to be honest.

[@HumanShield117]

I once heard that learning to drive on a manual transmission is better, because you actually understand what the car has to do to get you places better. But by the time you're in your mid 20's, you're doing other stuff, and don't have time to deal with it. (makes drinking your morning coffee while you drive harder, and that sort of stuff.)

[@Monitor-t9g]

18:07 WE LITERALLY PLAYED HEADS UP SEVEN UP IN WIN (essentially study hall) A COUPLE DAYS AGO

[@Smilley85]

5:55 Ain't that the truth? Though I'd like to add that 95 crawled so 98 and XP could run - no pun intended.

[@ScionStorm1]

I found the old Trolls music videos on YT and showed them to my 5-year old niece who just asked where Poppy was in the video. But then I got her to watch Gumby.

[@catsaregods007]

Robin saying “lightning theif” was a book he read as a child made me feel old… im 18, i shouldnt be feeling this way!

[@acatnamedtaz2167]

When parents could beat us, the discussions at recess talking about what sort beatings you got at home , some got it worse than others, and the shocked faces when someone said "oh, my parents don't hit us"

[@alecrisser12]

37:21 That is Star Trek Deep Space 9. I would say it's the best of all of them in terms of character development and interaction. I highly recommend watching it! I don't know what that other show is though.

[@FFVison]

I think that a lot of people have this idea that those continuous towel dispensers dispense out the towel in the top and then it goes into the bottom and somehow gets magically cleaned and it comes right out the top. This is one long continuous towel which one spool feeds a clean length of towel out the top slot and it comes around and goes into the bottom where the dirty towel is wrapped around another spool. At some point, the towel will be removed and washed and replaced with a clean towel on the top spool again.

[@necrotorium]

So it's a towel cassette.

[@FFVison]

@@necrotorium yeah, basically. For those of us who are familiar with them.

[@Very-tired-rat]

I was given a discman at seven, 2013, because i had become obsessed with music

[@anomalousanimates]

26:51 that's not even a fk im old moment, that's a "what the hell, no that doesn't sound right" moment

[@radeakins]

48:20 My job ........7 years ago................in England! And yes, it weirded people out. 56:50 We read Of Mice and Men, Romeo and Juliet and A Night to Remember. How many people realised the Holden was dying and died when he wrote about his sister on the merry-go-round?

[@missing_link918]

31:56 .. is that the dark crystal playing on the screen?? That movie gave me so many nightmares-

[@waidi3242]

7:26 nope, it was 2001 so it's 23 years already (well, in a week)

[@skyirwin1445]

57:55 Wrong. The network was called Nickelodeon, it was on cable. The show was called, "You Can't Say That On Television".

[@nylowjakevandenmaagdenberg1771]

A couple of years ago, my mom needed her birth certificate for something and since she was born in 56, they had to dig into the psychical archives which took forever😂

[@KoshTimeStepper]

As a kid in the 80's my mind was blown away by the Tomytronic 3D, I had the Sky Attack version. Only recently lost it during a move. I kinda miss it.

[@Smilley85]

38:25 * whoosh * The sound of the joke going waaaaay over their head. For context, this is Nena, singer of the song 99 Luftballons / 99 Red Balloons - about an apocalyptic world war breaking out over a bunch of innocuous rubber balloons.

[@johnkacin1500]

These construction workers used to come into the place i worked and brag about tearing out virgin forest to build a housing development. I get that was their job and how they got paid. But they were altering what made this area a unique place to live in.

[@SigmaGE]

1:11:48 No one played this game. It was an esoteric ritual to summon an eldritch horror or something, because no one. Ever. Played. Mouse Trap. For one, part of the game was setting up the mouse trap in the first place then you had to go around the board and try and catch your friend on the mouse trap. So it was frustrating as all balls. It was more fun to set it up, set off the trap, and put it away. Robin was All of us.

[@Amarouq2]

Growing up, I remember we had a built-in rotary dial wall phone in the kitchen. Granted it wasn’t exactly new at the time, but now people are paying crazy money for one that may or may not work. Man I feel old.

[@glitchmakerygo]

As a gen z, I think tech I wasn't able to grow up with/older tech in general is cool. Yes, I will get offended if you assume I've never used an NES controller. Just cuz I'm young doesn't mean I never tried old stuff.

[@RainbowFlowerCrow]

"Old stuff", said the child to the old lady, who still remembers when the NES controller was new. 😔😆 Nuff respect to you though, you sound like a well rounded person.

[@mikelwrites]

my brother and i had a cd wallet. we still do, actually. the oldest thing it has in there is "meet miley cyrus" though lol.

[@Nova-bv5qb]

2009 here. My family also has a CD wallet. My dad has Steal This Album in it so I put it in my computer

[@Guidingsonar]

3:12 I MADE IT TO THE END OF ORIGIN TRAIL EXCUSE ME OLD MAN! I even got in the top 10~... most people just did it for grade but hey, it was a game we were told to play in school that wasn't that bad.

[@alecrisser12]

37:45 That yell sounds strikingly like Link's spin attack yell from Zelda Twilight Princess. Anyone else notice?

[@Zinervawyrm]

Cashier carding someone quickly because they saw the 19. Me when I card someone and see 199x: Wait, are they old enough to drink?...Oh my god, they are...I...need a moment to sit down...

[@midwestmind691]

Driving a manual does not suck ass. It's nice to know that I can leave the doors unlocked at all times without worry.

[@cakes4056]

Bro Sean Astin is from "50 first dates" 😂😂

[@silver_studiosStArZ]

I am a GenZ kid, and a freshman and one of my classes asked me what an iPod was. It physically pained me. Also, I remember growing up with a lot of things from the late 90s, so I feel just as old as everyone else

[@lnemeth4334]

25:05: as GenX I started my computer hobby in '87 with an Atari 800XL which had QuickShot I and QuickShot II joysticks. (fancier version of the original Atari joystick (1)) Later around '91 I played Sonic the Hedgehog on a Sega MegaDrive (3). Around '95 our local library had NES (2) and SNES (4) And since Quake I've been playing with keyboard+mouse exclusively. (for my PC I bought an Xbox 360 controller (17) replica last year, but I used it for maybe 10 hours.)

[@Exotictheidiot]

Gotta love making myself feel ancient with another Emkay video.

[@Gav-mj6lx]

Storyteller books and tapes, played on a stereo system that was twice my size. I now wear sensible shoes a a reasonable price.

[@Blue_rosetx]

The show was 'You Can't Do That on Television' not Mr. Nickelodeon. . . the person on the screen was one of the main characters. Her name was Christine but everyone called her Moose.

[@BDFireFist]

It's official, from now on every EmKay video must have the ending.

[@ThisOldSkater]

"Heather." Yeah, that would make way more sense.

[@DanaTheInsane]

I know the feeling. I was at GameStop, (I’m trans as well) talking to the trans cashier. After a few minutes I found out she was born the year I had my surgery. This is what I realize not only am my old but my genitals are old enough to drink.