ALL the juicy details about Cataclysm Classic in 10 minutes!

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[@jasonbaren3595]

I don't pay for addons that break the ToS I pirate them sorry.

[@Quo210]

you are the only content creating pushing out updated content, others just seem to be rereading each other

[@ujust326]

I run with a well organized group for SoD and we all were saying how easy ST is post nerf, (we actually liked the challenge pre-nerf). Then we started to do some pugs and filling for other guild groups with alts. It was then we realized we aren't "the average group". Lots of people still struggle in ST. So i get why they put it in post nerf even though we would have preferred pre-nerf for a bit.

[@trl2151]

Maybe they should keep heroic versions pre-nerf then. Or have a pre-nerf toggle that gives +1 item loot.

[@burtonkevin32]

They need to make it pre and post nerf. How icc and such later on lets you toggle on and off the nerf. BOOM

[@JoshLineberry]

A toggle for pre and post nerf versions would be great.

[@cemungutslayer]

now that i heard from people ,that classic doesnt have a proper main quest what am i supposed to do now? is there any pre questline for going to cataclysm ? or i just have to wait till it release and heading to cataclysm maps and doing whatever available quest on that zone?

[@NorthstriderGaming]

Aaah, I had hoped someone would cover the HD textures as they have been popping up here and there. I really wanted to know the status on these

[@EternalAngel333]

i hope once mop classic is out they actually take it slow because that was a hell of a good expansion

[@trl2151]

There isn't going to be a mop classic. The fact that MoP remix CAN exist shows you it's basically retail, and you can already level in whatever xpac you want, its unnecessary, and would be too much work compared to how little interest there is compared to how its already possible in retail.

[@Pyrro5]

@@trl2151 "The fact that MoP remix CAN exist shows you it's basically retail" same can be said about literally any expansion. They could make WOTLK on the retail client and it'd work just as well. Also I'm not sure where you've gotten this idea of MoP Classic having little interest, if you actually play and interact with the classic community who are playing Cataclysm then you'd know that MoP is the expansion 90% of people are hyped for.

[@Tyson_Yang]

@@trl2151 wrong. they've literally said that when/if MoP comes back it will not be like the remix thing. They want it to stay true to it's original form. This is all from a fairly recent interview. It's weird that people just shoot things down without a simple google search first at least.

[@hotlikesauce]

@@trl2151oh damn, what’s it like *knowing* all this info with your seat at the developer table?

[@Sxndri]

@@Tyson_Yangso many people are looking forward to mop classic, idk what you are on about

[@CypherDarkwind]

Unfortunately healers have to do archaeology. The trinket is not just pre raid bis, it's bis until almost P3.

[@LewisMMF]

@scottejaye so what about old version of naxx?

[@itsResume]

Have you heard anything about a fix for the level 80 boost that's bricking people's professions?

[@trousersnake1486]

Been doing digging any moment I can since pre patch and still no sword, staff or doll😢

[@MrUncrustable]

292 solves, and I'm in the same boat. At least I finished Fossil last night so there's less spawns of that.

[@knapstad1]

What about naxx for tier 3? will they do that aswell :D

[@meta1152]

Any news on the disenchant button for dungeons?

[@Crossfade1625]

8:25

[@meta1152]

@@Crossfade1625 Oh thank you. It was a quick sentence or two and i must have missed it

[@matthewkeating-od6rl]

Great vid

[@adamtatum1365]

Digging the braves hat!

[@Cesnes007]

Can anyon clarify, if I do full t11 clear on Normal, can I then take my guild into HC the same week? Thanks!

[@NitramxDxDxD1]

No, you will be locked to the boss, doesnt matter if its Normal or HC

[@Evan-mt7bc]

If that ID has not killed a boss that your ID has you can not enter the raid For example lets so you did a BWD and you killed Omni, Magmaw and Maloriak. You can't join an ID that killed Omni, Magmaw, Atramedes and Chimaeron because Maloriak is still alive, if you want to join that ID Maloriak needs to be dead.

[@callfreaks9590]

Mate thx like always for the great work! keep it up buddy :D

[@nuclearsupernova8072]

Why were the comments off on that one interview?

[@carterneis8469]

Really excited for cats not sure about everyone else. But im super excited for slightly increased accessibility of content but increased challenge

[@angelsantana6995]

@Scottejaye why did u turn off the comments from the previous cataclysm video u did with the devs?

[@andromidius]

Probably toxicity deciding to criticise someone's appearance rather then anything they've actually said or done.

[@Scottejaye]

Exactly what Andomidius said, i have zero issue with people talking trash about me in the comments, i actually love it lol but I can't stand for people being toxic towards someone who is a guest on the channel and a very nice knowledgeable person at that.

[@stillnotchill2560]

​@@ScottejayeI don't blame you. They are nice enough to do the interviews and obviously just want the players to have the most fun possible. They are also just 2 devs out of the entire team, it's not like they can just do whatever they want like a pity system for archeology for example, they gotta run stuff like that by the entire team. Wow community just can't help but be angry no matter what version or state the game is in. I felt bad for those devs after seeing the comments on crix's video.

[@bidu2331324]

​@@Scottejayesimp

[@angelsantana6995]

@Scottejaye I feel u and now that I know that, I don't blame u at all. I didn't realize people were being big buttholes like that, but I guess that's giving too much credit to the average wow player

[@wichern8819]

Great vid man, I and my guild boys was very hyped abaut cata, we are "oldschool pvpers" but the server imbalance in europe just killed our hype, we tego ght they gonna do something with faction on prepatch but ła nch isnear and our hope gi e... Could you ask them at next interviev do they have any plan for sulation this problem ? Please?

[@ZoxoBear]

So... I'm confused. You said "Heroic" does that mean that I can run a 10m and 25m NORMAL on 1 character and get loot from the same boss twice?

[@JigsyGaming]

No, so if you do a boss on heroic on either 10 or 25 you are locked to that raid lockout period. if you do 3 bosses on normal 10 you could then join another group that has done 3 bosses already on 10 or 25 for the remainder of the raid, he fumbled by saying joining from the 4th boss instead of joining a grp thats killed the 4th boss, i think it was just the way he worded it though.

[@Lenz2371]

What happened to yesterdays podcast?

[@badderen92]

It's not worth farming Arch if you're going for the sword, but if you're a healer it's almost a must to go for trinket because it will be BiS all the way to Firelands. The staff is also super good and u most likely wont replace it unless you get herouc weapon cus of the good stats.

[@cyanophage4351]

Challenge mode dungeons that reward achievement points or a title or something cosmetic would be awesome. Something where they make the dungeons really hard like original Cata. I think that would be great

[@Chunkimunki98]

I recall there being challenge dungeons in MoP that would give you some pretty cool cosmetic items

[@wallofdeath9541]

I would love to have some extra challenge for dungeons, something like Mythic+, dont even need to get rewards. The challenge it self will be nice

[@mathewslizeroux3799]

I want to save 4k honor on pre patch. Is honor reset for cata ?

[@gollese]

Things arent changing anymore, we are in cata version right now since pre patch came. Its just that the new zones & raids are locked. So what you are gathering right now, you bring into cata.

[@detrix9043]

Wait they didnt do anything about luck on archeology?? So I was lucky to get 5 rares in a row including zin'rohk, the shield and the staff? I thought they had buffed it

[@tresharp839]

They need to make it to where u can do the lvl 60 Naxx as well

[@JoshLineberry]

They really don't. If people didn't get the t3 before they don't get it. People had like 3 years to get it.

[@Evilchickenhead]

t3 owners would be so mad if new players could do 60 naxx in cata for t3 gear again 😂

[@tresharp839]

@@Evilchickenhead aye people wana do it lol

[@Snow-ep6jy]

Love it

[@robtherelic510]

I see Blizz have announced that the weekly valor cap will 1600, not quite what you hoped for, but enough to address the issues you raised with them

[@tuckerstevens9689]

They should do the NPC near Onyxia for Naxx 60 too

[@phalian1]

Is raidfinder gonna be added in cata or not?

[@trl2151]

It wasn't added until Dragonsoul. So even if it were added it won't be added until the expac is almost over, same with RDF.

[@JoshLineberry]

They said no.

[@rkt1337]

I did’nt like wotlk, this expansion worth trying?

[@nastiachi4784]

I prefer cata much much more than wotlk so i guess maybe u will like cata

[@matthewm1606]

Blasphemous!

[@Turkos245]

Id like to play the harder versions, but knowing there were guilds and pugs that couldn't manage naxx makes me think the player base at large couldn't manage normal cata raids

[@stillnotchill2560]

I joined a pug last week for the sole purpose of helping my friend kill the LK for the first time. On normal, with the 30% buff, and I was mind blown how these pugs are still wiping on putricide and sindy. Literally over half the raid got hit with the ice tomb. I was top DPS with only a 6.1k GS and hadn't even been in ICC for over a month. So yeah, we definitely need easier raid modes for the average pug player.

[@vaels5682]

Then they should just make normal mode post-nerf. Leave a hard heroic mode for people who want a challenge

[@SoulHero777]

​@@vaels5682completely agree

[@Juan_deag0]

Ulduar hard modes absolutely destroyed guilds and ICC finished off a lot of what was left. They won't bring out harder raids.

[@JoshLineberry]

So true. Cata raids pre nerf would have cata dead in the water. They should make a toggle to let people choose which version they want to play. That would solve all the issues.

[@vaels5682]

The hard modes / heroic are optional. If people can't do them then they should run normal mode. Nothing to strive for has a much more stifling effect than people realize

[@MrGrimdek]

Which is crazy considering how easy they were imo lmao

[@michaelhand4246]

Braves hat. POG

[@easycake3251]

They are afraid that Cata is too hard for the classic playerbase (And they are right). So the chances of them releasing Firelands pre nerf ? Absolutely zero chance. Rag was actually not a cake walk even by today's standards.

[@conorf8091]

My guild took 106 attempts to kill it on normal 😂 ….

[@Wendigo1986]

And I like that decision I don't play classic to prove my skill in a PvE raid again I just wanna have fun with the boys and delete bosses and collect some loot 😊

[@van7915]

@@Wendigo1986play normal mode otherwise what is the point of the different difficulties if every casual raider is going to bitch about but I want to do it to it’s selfish

[@ericlol99]

@@van7915 I would take a look at Ironforge Pro and look at the duration of Ulduar and see the raiding population. And you will see why they are doing post nerf cata.

[@Wendigo1986]

@@van7915 nah normal Mode is actually too easy It was perfect in terms of difficulty in ICC HC Who wants to wipe at a random HC boss in cataclysm for hours? A little bit of progression is fine though

[@Hennrys521]

What does prenerf / postnerf mean?

[@randallholliday1519]

Over time, bosses health/damage/mechanics are made easier, these are called nerfs. Prenerf is before these changes take place, postnerf is after.

[@jeffreylittman9702]

not 100% sure but ill try to answer. When cata was released it was too hard so they nerfed the raids to make them easier. The cata classic release will be the "post nerf" version, meaning it will be the later and easier version of the game.

[@rdmqwerty]

i dont understand how the whole flexible raid lockout stuff is suppose to be used. like in what sort of situation would you be doing boss 1-2 in a certain raid group and then boss 3-4 in another raid group with a different id? or like what situation would you be doing some normal bosses on 10 man and some on 25 man? i feel like any variation of doing that stuff is just over complicating raiding for no benefit. like the simplest and best way to raid is to just do the whole raid in the same group on the same difficulty

[@Dangerous1939]

It's not overcomplicating anything, just adding huge QoL for everyone. If you do 2 bosses in a pug and for some reason it disbands, you can still finish the raid with other people instead of having your ID fucked for the week

[@rdmqwerty]

@@Dangerous1939 i never do raid in pugs. my guild runs every week and we do the whole raid start to finish

[@larks_9461]

I wish they wouldn’t rush through the only classic version of the game I like this is my favorite xpac. I have 3 toons to gear I don’t want the time to go by fast I want to be able to gear all 3 for pvp and pve please blizzz!!

[@JoshLineberry]

I hear ya. Cata was my favorite expansion followed by mop and I currently have 12 80s I'm ready to work on 😂😂

[@talmbout7779]

BLIZZ PLEASE , I NEED TO GO OLD SUNKEN TEMPLE FOR THE THE FUGLY LOW RES GEAR !!

[@kelltik2000]

Day 17 of farming for Zin'Rokh, got the staff this morning..

[@Maxmustermann99150]

Bro the content is nerfed to the ground, it doesnt matter shit if you have the sword

[@Maxmustermann99150]

They nerfed the Content for the casuals, because they were cryin early on. Instead of releasimg the Content the way it was

[@kelltik2000]

I'm aware it's post nerf b.s., still going for the sword because I can.

[@stillnotchill2560]

​@@Maxmustermann99150the content was unplayable for the majority of players on launch. This is a large contributing factor to many people quitting during Cata. It wouldn't be any different here and blizzard know this. They are smart enough to make it easier so that casuals have a chance at clearing and that's a good change. Personally I can handle the hard modes, but my friends can't. If my friends quit, so will I , hard modes or not.

[@paullowe8437]

everything up to this point has been a waiting mat for mists of pandaria for me and im so damn excited for it @!!!!!

[@trl2151]

There isn't going to be a mop classic. The fact that MoP remix CAN exist shows you it's basically retail, and you can already level in whatever xpac you want, its unnecessary, and would be too much work compared to how little interest there is compared to how its already possible in retail.

[@paullowe8437]

@@trl2151 you high as a fucking kite . they definitely going to do it!

[@WalterWhite-jz7ct]

Good tip for the Weapons.....and we Healers are just gon f ourselves because the Trinket is BIS for a long time ^^

[@aaronfisher7513]

Sorry but with how short each phase is pre nerf would be too annoying for most people

[@SasonyCZ]

6:53 Ghost :O

[@samc5314]

I'd of liked raids to be released Pre-nerf at launch so the HC raiders could launch themselves at it. Then on the 30th, put it at post nerf for everyone else. Add an achievement and call it a day. Sort of best of both worlds imo.

[@dank42069]

On the topic of archeology, the healer trinket is raid bis, but for the weapons i agree, weapon upgrades will exist in raids

[@alrightylol]

I wish will see atleast 300k+ raiders on ironforge statistics at begining of cata, releasing of Pandas remix griefing cata release.

[@MrKamakazy84]

Mop remix is nice but i dont think its somthing that is a problem for cata release. Most classic players dont play retail stuff. It is 90 more days and its perfect to fill voids.

[@gollese]

MoP remix will last until mid august ish if i recall. So thats that.

[@alrightylol]

@@gollese Thats enoght to F%#@ launch of cata and take tos of people from Cata, Remix got alot of new/ modified content + tons of rewards for retail accs, while cata prepatch was a mess with blizz beiing totaly silence about game.

[@akira3871]

I just hope the balance it so prot warriors are competitive.

[@hotlikesauce]

farmed Zin’rokh for my blood DK’s xmog, forget the 359 ilvl 😂

[@c2thewick]

I'll prob just do heroics gearing a phase behind until LFR

[@hotlikesauce]

Devs announced no LFR in the recent interviews.

[@c2thewick]

@@hotlikesauce "no plans at this time"

[@deathshorn8661]

I desperately want Cata classic Era realms after I hope there is a big push for this. I’ve waited years for data classic and I’m worried I’m only going to have this small window of time to enjoy it.

[@Kryzz93]

My man. Do you rly think when they dind't make a tbc and wotlk era server that they gona make all of a suden a cata era? 😂😂😂

[@reddblueblur]

​@@Kryzz93 they were saying they wanted it, never said they expected it

[@HushHushOG]

Can't have prenerf Heroics that force players to do the mechanics because it's too difficult BUT we CAN have Titan Rune Mechanics that can cheese wipe the group...

[@jesseloechel]

I’m all for budding, but I really hope they don’t nerf shit, that is kinda the fun part of classics, I know what’s busted and I get to actually play it. Like in MOP I know KJ cunning is gonna be fun. Cata I know combust looking juicy. I’m all for trying to bring some classes up tho

[@ronnyfett]

at this video I couldnt concentrate... I saw a scottish people with an england Trikot .... aaaaaaaah my head^^

[@gollese]

Crazy that people have to suffer because some can't clear normal raids. Let us have heroic raids atleast somewhat difficult so there are some sense of progression.

[@sqwibbie]

I think the issue is the archeology aspect is really bad for the health of the game. Personally know a lot of people who are very very frustrated with this change. Never once met a person who feels bad luck protection is bad for the game. Makes me wonder what feedback the devs work off of. Anyways loved the video as always. Just think its indicative of a bigger issue than "thats the best item"

[@deuxexkane2659]

Sad that we don't get at least a bit of pre-nerf Dungeons and T11. They could always apply the nerf with the troll dungeon release and make valor and conquest points have a seasonal instead of weekly limit to facilitate people to catch up if they get stuck / can't play during the summer.

[@Josepy6969]

Buff spirit wolves plz

[@knapstad1]

dont give us 1 year Dragon souls like last time

[@ElkGodEd]

I've heard a rumour that we won't be getting MoP after Cata, did either you ask this during your interviews?

[@JoshLineberry]

Of course we will!

[@darodaredevil]

The only detail im waiting for is buff to archeology. Give me my damn sword. After i get it ill never touch it again

[@ihalf7467]

Спасибо за контент. Ты единственный блоггер, который даёт хорошую инфу по классике

[@theoriginalbreadcrumb]

I got Zin sword after 10 solves, I got Thaur staff after around 30 solves, I got tyr trinket after around 30 solves. The fossil shield is eluding me and I got like 120+ solves so far. I think everybody has that one item which will take forever.

[@bidu2331324]

>one Brother I have 800 solves and only have the trinket.

[@Pyrro5]

You need to go to your nearest shop and buy a lottery ticket asap.

[@markshepherd4791]

i like how on your last video under their names it said he/him, she/her and yours said scotty 😂😂not sure why but it got me

[@svplatypus]

I honestly didn't think my classic journey would end in cata because of post nerf content but here we are =(

[@zeroresistance7203]

1200 solves all epics allthou... i got first 6 epics withing 300 solves. then it took about a week of digging to find the last one lmao.

[@brettparker7873]

tell blizz to respond on the bug forums to everyone with bricked toons after using their boost...... the profs are bricked at 0/0 cant train and unlearn...... they have been silent for weeks

[@nickmontelongo4724]

Why not just make the pre-nerf heroic dungeons as heroic+? Might take some work but much better than the gamma, beta, trash.

[@cyanophage4351]

"bad luck protection" is just another word for guaranteed epics. When you got the Headless Horseman mount back in the day it felt great because it was so rare. When they changed it so that you got it several times a week it just felt ok. Making everything so common that everyone has it completely defeats the point of an RPG

[@corpsen1]

Well i saw news that R12 and R13 pvp gear will be for everyone, which is completely bad and i dont want to play it anymoreo tbh :D I dont want to see brand new boosted characters with this transmog. And no more replicas as a reward from RBG rating 1800? Damn.. blizz rly sux..

[@Outmageous]

noice

[@amc9329]

Got my Doll after 69 solves ;p

[@Meatypete]

no bad luck protection is legit INSANE......NOONE and i mean actually no one ENJOYS the grind of archeology and if someone says they do , they're the ones who got their zinrock, staff, trinket within 100 solves.... insane delusion by blizz on this

[@andreaskarlsson5251]

Can their info be trusted though? Fuck cant even truet pstch notes anymore 😂😂

[@trl2151]

Blizzard reacts to backlash. If enough people complain on the forums, reddit, youtube loud enough they'll give us pre-nerf.

[@vaels5682]

I think it's too late unless they can just flip a switch and implement all the tuning. They just finished raid testing

[@markwitt82]

Good cuase ferals and rets are garbage tier dps. Quite literally barely 10k dps difference between a tank and a feral/ret dps.

[@nogunk147]

why are they so afraid of making the content hard?

[@OGNord]

ok this is my issue with a lot of creators, no the raids on HC is not easy, not even for organized groups. every single person ive seen say this rocked up with full 359 gear when its tuned for 347. Try and 2 heal 10 man HC in a group rocking only pre-bis and get back to me.

[@Evilchickenhead]

This isn't an attack towards you. just pipe down a bit will ya?

[@TheCeodoc]

No one asked about hat and Cape heirlooms?

[@Hybridsixtynine]

Ask what

[@van7915]

Helm and Cloak heirlooms will scale to 85 once the raids open.

[@Scottejaye]

we already know

[@Dekoan01]

Sorry but i dont trust one word those defs say

[@mikearchambeault633]

Why exclude 80% of the WoW cata base by making the content difficult and that also makes people leave the game. If elist players like scott here want harder than hell content go play retail.

[@lewis9025]

Get good nub.

[@mikearchambeault633]

@@lewis9025 Stop it you are SO much better at a 14 year old game than anyone.

[@juanemiliocresta3761]

just dont play it lol

[@torralight4642]

Glad were getting post nerf raids. The majority of the player base doesnt want super challenging content.

[@ericwallhagen3146]

That's what "normal" difficulty is for. Why do people that don't want challenging content insist that EVERYONE has to play the way they want. The two difficulty system was made to make everyone happy, but the people that wanted the easier content still weren't happy, and selfishly said "Why can't I do thaaaaaaat." So the people that do want difficult content get fucked.

[@telemental]

You know there was already a normal (easier) mode for each raid?

[@Maxmustermann99150]

I hate it when „usual“ players have to suffer, to make casuals happy

[@stillnotchill2560]

​@@ericwallhagen3146bro most casuals cannot clear the "normal" modes pre-nerf. What isn't making sense to you? As pathetic as you mind find that, it's the reality. You can just do the hard modes and achievements. If they release it pre-nerf the server populations will plumet and Cata will be barren. Is that what you people want? Such an echo chamber of life long wow raiders not understanding what is best for the playerbase and game at large.

[@stillnotchill2560]

​@@Maxmustermann99150casuals are the target audience and where they get the most money. Why should they cater to the hardcore raiders who don't even pay a sub fee because they have all the GDKP gold?

[@suminshizzles6951]

Heroics are filled with retail babies who pull multiple groups at once and play mthic plus. The pace of Cata. the slower pace, is obviously not what they are comfortable with. Tank rush off right away not even aware that the healer just changed spec and has no mana. They pull multiple groups at once. whiler healers have half mana. DPS does not bother with getting priority mobs that need to be focussed down first. HC is a fuckign joke at the moment and i refuse to heal in them. ITs a shitshow every single dungeon so i will not bother for a while.

[@TheMessiah1337]

First

[@professionalviewer5672]

Your interview was trash

[@reneroder3263]

Extra juicy info: Blizzard has decided to nerf Fury Warriors with the same misguided approach as before by nerfing mastery. This makes Fury Warriors useless in both PvP and PvE. So, prepare to unsubscribe or switch to Arms, Fury Warriors. It's impossible for Blizzard to fix this simple issue, apparently. Instead, they prefer to ruin the game for all Fury Warriors.

[@Evilchickenhead]

I mean, if you check pre-patch logs. 95% of fury warriors are already playing arms this isn't anything new

[@bingewatchshorts]

Cataclysm sucks ass. Tbc and wotlk were the best. There I said the quiet part.

[@kelyus8113]

getting post nerf heroics and raids will be the dumbest decision they have ever made regarding classic so far.

[@torralight4642]

Hot take there. You're a brave one.

[@vaels5682]

I think there have been worse decisions. But i do want prenerf

[@joaodasilva4891]

Blue hair feminist, the best kind of dev. Funny how you disabled coments on that video

[@zantsmith4257]

Juicy? How can an over cooked turkey be called juicy

[@TheNebulose]

I really need to find that pretty video where you dunk on MoP and talk about hating it. No one liked MoP. You won't like it, again.

[@andromidius]

Again with assuming your unpopular opinion is universal (aka 'everyone').

[@DownsyMB]

MoP is one of the most beloved expacs ever and that's coming from someone who played last year on a MoP private server.

[@stillnotchill2560]

When I was a kid I totally disregarded MoP because I didn't like the theme/setting/premise, but as for the content, pvp and pve, I've only heard good things. I played every expansion besides mop and wod, so I'll definitely be interested to try out MoP.

[@TheNebulose]

@andromidius No one is not equal to everyone. I am not denying that MoP can be liked. If you liked MoP, I am denying your humanity. You're just not a person; AKA no one.

[@TheNebulose]

@@stillnotchill2560 Worst balanced pvp since OG vanilla T2 with 4 day long battlegrounds.

[@daviduk1692]

if we get post nerf rag in firelands that will ruin the whole point of this classic cata experience

[@vaels5682]

Agree. Leave at least the end boss on heroic as a proper challenge. Normal mode can be post nerf for all i care