Alleged Leak Suggests Specifically How MTG Arena Cheats You

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DesolatorMagic

DesolatorMagic

Жыл бұрын

Feel like Arena is rigged? Feel like the matchmaking, go-first system, and land draw amounts are not random odds? Well, in my opinion and research you are correct but now we have alleged proof from an alleged Arena project worker of some sort. Do I believe them? Let's find out.
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@G.Snackwell
@G.Snackwell Жыл бұрын
Mtga is engineered to simulate an addictive gambling experience. It's a competitive slot machine masquerading as a strategic card game. At some point you have to question the ethics of what Hasbro is doing with the lack of transparency and clear manipulative tactics.
@nodugonokonomusufunoko
@nodugonokonomusufunoko 9 ай бұрын
I tried to create a Reddit post in the MTGA forum. I was just explaining to them that Wizards has suspended my account twice for posting comments in their feedback forum. They did not break their TOS when they started deleting my comments and re-routing posts as comments on a different post. Those comments always advocated for them to just remove the algorithm entirely. Everyone in the forum did everything they could to pick apart what I had to say and focused on everything but the fact that Wizards was censoring all the dissent in their forums. Some of those people were violent in their posts and offered death threats, among other things. Yet, I was verbally attacked, strongly, for positing the game's weight of say in your W/L. I love that the leniency of the Algorithm favors you, giving your opponents no shot in hell to win, and then shifts to taking a shit on your head. Floating most people, no matter what skill, in the 50%-60% W/L records. Many people have trackers on when they play MTGA and those data support this. Yet, Wizards heavily denies this. I don't think I've ever been ganged up on that hard in my life in any forum. It makes me wonder if they were all part of the Fanboy Defense Net. Because, like you stated well, I don't know how anybody couldn't see this while playing it. We're not dumb. We know how probability works.
@Jammal15
@Jammal15 Жыл бұрын
Magic arena criminally think we are fools by giving us 1 land in 7 turns.
@thelordsephiroth777
@thelordsephiroth777 10 ай бұрын
lost in a deck with 20 land and 67 cards by getting 4 lands in a row
@hiimnifty3625
@hiimnifty3625 Жыл бұрын
Been saying this for a long time. I have unique decks that get over 60 to 70% win rate and all of the sudden everything falls off for me. Everyone just told me I was probably bad or just crazy. Nice to know I'm not crazy.
@nicolbolas8758
@nicolbolas8758 Жыл бұрын
Also playing own control decks. Too much stuff bothering me, I am mythic often, but rigged sht tired of it, like 4 mono reds in a row going first and duing saga turn one monk turn two
@shifty330
@shifty330 Жыл бұрын
Arena is trash.
@anannoyedpanda
@anannoyedpanda Жыл бұрын
​@@nicolbolas8758 stop playing control. You are a part of the problem in the game.
@a-animal1206
@a-animal1206 Жыл бұрын
Games badly rigged to the gills always has been since 1993
@ryangainey94
@ryangainey94 9 ай бұрын
​@@anannoyedpandaNot saying you're wrong, but what exactly do you mean by that?
@DutchSnake
@DutchSnake Жыл бұрын
Mathematically Arena has occurrence's and situations that happens way too often, that are mostly (mathematically) impossible of being possible in a real life game of magic.
@Aleksandrgrc
@Aleksandrgrc Ай бұрын
I swear when I add a new single. I get it opening hand forever.
@CaptainMahone07
@CaptainMahone07 Жыл бұрын
I am both paper and (new) arena player. 5 or 6 "1 in a million" bad lucks happend to me in one week in arena versus none in 20 years of magic. I have been unlucky sometimes IRL of course, but never to that point.
@YourGameSucks
@YourGameSucks Жыл бұрын
I find that when I make a new deck it has totally random matchups and usually hits around, like you mentioned, a 60-70% win rate. After a few days or even a week, my win rate PLUMMETS, to the point where I cannot use the deck anymore. It feels like WotC is forcing players into continuously making new decks and thus continuously paying for cards. I think the matchmaker learns how to make you lose, and if they can't pair you against a deck that you consistently lose to, they just land screw you. Fun game.
@markymark3668
@markymark3668 4 ай бұрын
Can confirm even a year later mate. Been tracking my Geist Combo deck in Historic over the last 240ish or so games, and I've noticed this same trend occurs, like clockwork roughly every 30-45 games. How do I reset it? No joke, I delete the deck and remake it from scratch again. Don't clone it, don't write the deck list down and reimport it, make it again from. Scratch. I have all 60 cards memorized lol deck does amazing, I easily average an 80% win rate with it and then all of a sudden, it goes against black decks almost exclusively (worst match up, tends to have mu h higher rates of S Edict and similar sacrifice removal). Win rate falls rapidly until I remake the deck. Rinse. Repeat. It's maddening.
@xAshamonx
@xAshamonx Жыл бұрын
Matchmaking is absolutely rigged. As soon as I choose one of my commander decks I know exactly what sweaty deck I’m going to play. It’s not even enjoyable to choose a deck and know your next X games are Golos
@TheShalestorm
@TheShalestorm Жыл бұрын
Yeah no doubt brawl formats are the most blatant and disgusting forced matchmaking manipulation. Almost entirely weighted on general choice, and if you hit a streak say hello to Kinnan or bolas lmao
@joeschmoe5583
@joeschmoe5583 Жыл бұрын
It's like they want "competitive matches" - so they make sure whoever you are matched against has "answers" to what you have and vice versa. If you play control, you will almost never go against a control deck. If you build an anti-rush deck, you will not face rush. If you build draw-discard, you'll go against sheold. What the hell is wrong with these devs. They're trying to force 50% win rate.
@a-animal1206
@a-animal1206 Жыл бұрын
Eomm just like in mw2 same thing rigged algorithm
@joeschmoe5583
@joeschmoe5583 Жыл бұрын
It's so depressing and lame.
@NetherVoiD
@NetherVoiD 5 ай бұрын
In my case i usually encounter cheaters who has a perfect draw everytime. Everything I cast is countered every draw they make is timed like if they run out of cards in hand next draw is a draw spell card.
@thegreatpiggy7183
@thegreatpiggy7183 Жыл бұрын
There is a reason i quit playing arena after a couple of months the game is rigged constantly and its not fun getting countered every damn game you play. And getting flooded or screwed mana wise is just the insult that finally made me uninstall the game and never play it again.
@BM-rd4ms
@BM-rd4ms Жыл бұрын
I left Arena as soon as alchemy was introduced and have never looked back. Hope you feel better Des!
@motorbreath3
@motorbreath3 Жыл бұрын
Everyone's opening hand ALWAYS has at least 1 land that enters tapped. If you are only running 1 tapped land you WILL draw it 99.999% of the time. Or late game , getting ready to close it out, suddenly you draw every remaining land in your deck. So rigged.
@qwaurk985
@qwaurk985 Жыл бұрын
I've never gotten as mad playing paper as I do on Arena because of the rigging. I've noticed if I get matched right off I'll usually lose that game because their deck will have all the answers. I have noticed more wins when playing at a certain time frames, too.
@Nightwing690
@Nightwing690 Жыл бұрын
If you wait 30 seconds to a minute to get matched, you know you're getting fucked over
@daksys
@daksys Жыл бұрын
@@Nightwing690 agreed 👍
@a-animal1206
@a-animal1206 Жыл бұрын
​@@Nightwing690it's because they are rigging it absolutely
@NetherVoiD
@NetherVoiD 5 ай бұрын
I have experiened this everytime. My opponent has a perfect draw all my moves are counted and if he has no cards in hands boom his next draw card is a draw card spell hehehehe
@knessing7681
@knessing7681 Жыл бұрын
When I'm playing an opponent with 100 to 280 card deck and they're dropping 2 pairs or 3 of a kind, or curved out on a turn 4/5 combo all the while you got no cards to interact with the board or your land flooded/drought, it's obvious the game is rigged where 95% of these encounters all end up in loses ... of course there's the shills and deniers of reality what is obviously happening, and their excuses is your deck sucks or luck of the draw was bad ... eh no when there's an observable pattern, something isn't right.
@matthewperrigin9292
@matthewperrigin9292 Жыл бұрын
if you build your own decks and play with them alot you will see this. once they figure out what cards lock your deck out. you will find yourself against those decks even thou you know. there's no way that many people are playing that non-meta off the wall type of deck.
@jeremyrabida5543
@jeremyrabida5543 7 ай бұрын
When people don’t believe me, I tell them to build a deck with 20+ Pacifism type auras(Coup up, Ossification, etc.) and go play 20-30 games with it. Then tell me if you’ve ever in your life played against that percentage of creature-less opponents, or decks running over a dozen pieces of enchantment removal.
@AJB-jr6ll
@AJB-jr6ll Жыл бұрын
I'd approve of Musk buying WOTC. He could not possibly make MTG any worse at this point. Game has hit rock bottom at this point.
@Nightwing690
@Nightwing690 Жыл бұрын
WoTC has joined the globalist corporation cabal
@joeschmoe5583
@joeschmoe5583 Жыл бұрын
The game needs full transparency . The matchmaker and the shuffler are manipulated. Needs to stop planning these hyper-powerful metas; every season 50% of the decks are the same. Not a real "meta". Needs to balance 1st turn.
@rowan1598
@rowan1598 Жыл бұрын
On arena I consistently get unplayable hands, back to back, or unwinnable matchups where my opponent can keep 6 lands and still win by top decking every card they need in that moment. I started keeping track of it with a few of my friends across some newer accounts we made to see if you're win rate affects the matchups and proper hand layouts; consistently we would get better hands, better matchups, better draws across the new accounts.
@Beckola44
@Beckola44 Жыл бұрын
I stopped playing Arena almost two years ago. I have not spent a plug nickel on Arena. Thanks for the video.
@SnarfSnarf374
@SnarfSnarf374 Жыл бұрын
Just throwing this out there I think a lot of people know this already but wizards of the coast hates their player base.
@darkmage123345
@darkmage123345 Жыл бұрын
i swear it is also rigged by the day........ some days game decides you will win easily...... other days, have fun trying to win for hours no matter what deck you run
@andrewmakar2035
@andrewmakar2035 Жыл бұрын
I notice a marked increase in mana screws or floods in drafts where winning the game would get me enough gems to get a new draft. I've gotten insanely screwed or flooded and it always seems to be just in the game where I'd get enough gems to play again for free.
@carljoly1363
@carljoly1363 Жыл бұрын
I don't draft, but my friend told me the same exact comment.
@nwah4lyfe486
@nwah4lyfe486 Жыл бұрын
Same
@cartermclaughlin2908
@cartermclaughlin2908 Жыл бұрын
This sound statistically provable & very criminal. Does the EULA say that they can manipulate odds?
@2DEEPMUZIKK
@2DEEPMUZIKK Жыл бұрын
Happens to me as well but i notice i lose to people that have perfectly built decks and they play really fast. When kamigawa came out i used the enchantment deck with kami of transience and the naturalists. I won a lot but lost in events usually after 3 wins (lost to another enchantment deck). I notice whenever i play white I get 1 and 2 land hands followed by no land draws 3 out of 5 times not sure why.
@castlemanpunk4436
@castlemanpunk4436 Жыл бұрын
I run historic discard, I know I am a dick, but if I get a couple wins in a row I will be paired against reanimator for the next 4-5 games.
@rnegoro1
@rnegoro1 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes in arena, when i am about to win - the opponent can disconnect me and make me lose the game.
@thelordsephiroth777
@thelordsephiroth777 10 ай бұрын
I am glad i found this. Been getting pretty pissed about this whole fiasco. They should be sued for stealing peoples money and persecuting customers for profits.
@petnaby
@petnaby Жыл бұрын
I'm only 1 minute in but I've had these suspicions as well. It's entirely possible to rig the game and unless you parse the information in multiple ways it'll always look legit on the surface. That said, with this many years into MTGA I'm sure the information has been parsed many times over in a multitude of ways. If I'd have to wager they' have a BUNCH of systems in place to tip the scales a bit to encourage players to spend money in the game but nothing too egregious.
@darkokoroshi5883
@darkokoroshi5883 Жыл бұрын
I run a 230 card enchantment deck, the number of times i got exactly what i need is not even funny xD
@aaroncorcoran6608
@aaroncorcoran6608 Жыл бұрын
Its not like paper magic. It is rigged. Going 1st, decks that counter your deck, mana flood, mana screwed, not drawing land. They do this to make money.
@Trazaeth
@Trazaeth Жыл бұрын
I got to top 200 mythic and just stopped playing because of the money grab and how i never got to play first hardly ever. How i'd draw absolutely terrible.
@dolanpls3330
@dolanpls3330 Жыл бұрын
I use mono green Elves quite a lot. They made it all the way to the top of diamond and almost into mythic for like 3 seasons. Now I use it and I can't get a single good hand in ranked. I played 6 games and lost all of them, had to mulligan every single game.
@thelordsephiroth777
@thelordsephiroth777 10 ай бұрын
for me i just get put into matches against black
@merkaba_lite
@merkaba_lite Жыл бұрын
I legitimately hate Arena. Can't play it anymore. Hate every deck in standard, I hate my decks. Played magic for over a decade now, but I dont even want to turn it on to do daily challenges.. What card game should I try out? I just want casual quick fun, not casual quick rage inducing garbage.
@stephenwalter9074
@stephenwalter9074 Жыл бұрын
I have a theory it learns your play style and after a while it throws you everything you can't use against your opponent which get everything that counters your deck in return
@thelordsephiroth777
@thelordsephiroth777 10 ай бұрын
exactly. theyre data mining you. i had my vpn for awhile and it was crazy how much it stopped me from being boned
@RussellTeapot
@RussellTeapot 8 ай бұрын
@@thelordsephiroth777 wouldnt they track you anyway based on your account?
@Saintfear
@Saintfear Жыл бұрын
I play historic brawl a lot. My main deck is Captain Sisay and I only get paired again 5 color decks when I play it. Johda or first sliver. Every. Damn. Day. Until I lose 4 games that is.
@oinkleberry
@oinkleberry 6 ай бұрын
I main Fynn in historic brawl and the amount of infinite edict/removal decks I'm thrown against is actually preposterous. It gets me thinking 99% of historic brawl players only mainline sheoldred/go-shintai/prismatic bridge, but that doesn't make any goddamn sense. And like Des I am forced to constantly go second, and every time I go first I never have a one or two drop. It only changes after scooping 4 or 5 in a row. Like I cannot stress enough, 9 out of 10 games I get Swords to Ploughshares or Wash Away'd. It changed my playstyle and expectations, because it literally happens THAT often. But I'm supposed to believe I'm just unlucky? That every single opponent I get just has a lucky hand of all removal? Either the game is rigged or the playerbase is degenerate. I'd prefer not to hate all my fellow magic players.
@nobodyshome6792
@nobodyshome6792 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised no one has mentioned these things before, as much of these things are stated in the FAQs of the game itself. Both in-game and on the official website. The game even explains to new players that the initial draw is modified based on lands, and that opponents are occasionally selected. If one opens up the code for the game, one would find many instances of the code rigging things for or against the players.
@Retroloft556
@Retroloft556 Жыл бұрын
I knew it. How many times an opponent throws a first turn kobold out when going first against me is staggering.
@robertmendez8383
@robertmendez8383 Жыл бұрын
Qwazzar at MTG Arena Original Decks has been onto this for a LONG time and he's a statistic analyst.
@robertmendez8383
@robertmendez8383 Жыл бұрын
@MTGoriginal
@YourGameSucks
@YourGameSucks Жыл бұрын
He's awesome
@thelordsephiroth777
@thelordsephiroth777 10 ай бұрын
qwazzar was the one who pointed this out to me and i was surprised because right after that a new set came out and the rigging got worse. after lotr the shuffler has decided that you will not get lands no matter how many land you have in your deck. and my favourite is that this last week ive only been playing against 200+ decks 70% of the time
@tommymis1043
@tommymis1043 Жыл бұрын
i always knew the arena shuffler was scuffed
@epicpeppy2977
@epicpeppy2977 11 ай бұрын
I find it suspicious when I loose games everytime I encounter players with decks that have large decks. A opponent will have a deck with over 150 cards and get perfect pulls. Statically the cards played against me does not make sense. I'm a generally a free player and what you say is what my average is. I wonder how may decks are potential bots.
@thelordsephiroth777
@thelordsephiroth777 10 ай бұрын
the matchmaker favours 200+ decks. this week arena has decided i am only gonna play against 200+ decks and its been pissing me off. i feel disrespected
@MtgLonestar
@MtgLonestar Жыл бұрын
Having a bot with mirror like attitudes doesn't seem unlikely to me.
@xAshamonx
@xAshamonx Жыл бұрын
Also with drafting. IRL drafting you play against decks from that draft pool. Arena your drafted deck plays decks drafted from other draft pools. Part of drafting is the strategy of knowing the cards circling the table.
@thescoon1
@thescoon1 Жыл бұрын
You also don't vs people at your win:lose rate, which is a way for WotC to avoid paying out 5-7/X gems as often.
@sirmeowsworth2483
@sirmeowsworth2483 Жыл бұрын
The Arena shuffle algorithm is rigged based on money spend on one's account and win rate. The Shuffler WILL make you miss land drops by a minimum of 2-3 turns. These are repeatable and put into place to try and generate more revenue.
@knessing7681
@knessing7681 Жыл бұрын
"The Shuffler WILL make you miss land drops by a minimum of 2-3 turns." I've found or noticed that if you played a deck of non-land cards (the double sided land cards) it negates that certain mtga scripted trigger, but then you'll be playing 2 turns behind as your non-lands are coming in tapped, that is also ontop of the game assisting your opponent with poker hands/draws (combination of 2 pairs, 3 pairs, 3 of kind, full house by the opponent 4th or 5th draw, that is not if they already destroy you with a turn 2 - 3 combo).
@Jammal15
@Jammal15 Жыл бұрын
Yes, if you win so many times, you can even get 20 cards and draw just 1 land. Your opponent could just pass, pass and pass by 20 turns and you would still not get the second land. The opponent is also probably a machine, cause sometimes when that happens, it is playing with a deck that gives him more lands and destroying your lands, like red/green or red/greed/blue decks. The game clearly cheats if you simply start winning without giving money to it.
@thelordsephiroth777
@thelordsephiroth777 10 ай бұрын
not true. i spend 200+ a month and i get crapped on. money has nothing to do with the rigging
@darkma1ice
@darkma1ice Жыл бұрын
I’ve learned you get 3 matches against decks that are likely bots, then you get paired up with specific colors for then on.
@thelordsephiroth777
@thelordsephiroth777 10 ай бұрын
like how my elf deck plays against black 90% of the time
@massivemindmeat
@massivemindmeat 10 ай бұрын
Same. Take my time putting together a cohesive multicolor deck and every single game vs a black or red single color deck. Play any single color deck and all of a sudden every match is vs a blue counter every card deck. Wizards is garbage.
@a-animal1206
@a-animal1206 Жыл бұрын
Lmaoooo this game is such a piece of rigged trash... disgusting new players stick with paper magic ...at least if your opponent tries funny things you can send his nose through his face.
@Graveyard_666
@Graveyard_666 10 ай бұрын
I love only getting 1 land 7 turns in a row or nothing but lands. This game is unrealistic compared to in person play.
@LunarSoda17
@LunarSoda17 Жыл бұрын
Get well soon my friend, take care. Your content and effort is much appreciated.
@mrmeow2297
@mrmeow2297 Жыл бұрын
these days I prefer playing in paper. You know companies are always f*cking with us behind the scenes online.
@DamienLavizzo
@DamienLavizzo 7 ай бұрын
The number of times I've taken a mulligan and seen two or more of the SAME CARD that I just mulliganed away in my hand told me all I needed to know about this game and it's "RNG". I went back to Pokemon TCG immediately.
@benmonroe5041
@benmonroe5041 Жыл бұрын
Des everyone knows if your deck wins too much then you will get mana hosed one way no land or other flooded I’ve absolutely seen it 2 lands in a draw go and been 20 or more cards deep no land sure that can happen but not consistently
@johnhammond6225
@johnhammond6225 9 ай бұрын
as an educated adult who's played mtg for 20+ years it took me about 1 month to realize something wasn't right. After about 2 months I was completely disgusted. its mind boggling that people play this game and put up with the bs. Sad how many people become addicted to this gambling simulator pretending to be legit games of mtg.
@grogdizzy5814
@grogdizzy5814 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if you're not even playing against a real human
@noahpreuss2795
@noahpreuss2795 Жыл бұрын
Hey des, sorry to hear you're not feeling well, but im happy to hear you enjoyed your break. Welcome back :D
@papsny
@papsny Жыл бұрын
It's rigged whenever I am on a 5-7 win streak, I would get a game where I draw like 10-15 lands straight
@diskdrive123
@diskdrive123 Жыл бұрын
The problem is they have floors to each rank, everyone would get to into the mystic. That would just look stupid, so you force people to forever grind.
@cartermclaughlin2908
@cartermclaughlin2908 Жыл бұрын
OMG. I never looked into Arena cuz the whole point of MTG was that it stopped me from ever playing WOW and being a hermit. This is so fucked up. I'm so glad all my entertainment money was invested in high quality cardboard. What is the draw to digital cardboard that you can't really own, and, apparently you can't even play a real game with them.
@OisinHendriX
@OisinHendriX 11 ай бұрын
Literally playing a 50/50 land deck and EVERY SINGLE OPENING HAND GETS ONE LAND
@anarky4203
@anarky4203 Жыл бұрын
Dude, Dude, Just spill the beans on winning over the casino already. This is info I need. How else am I going to fund my old school cardboard addiction. The best I can get is 50/50 on roulette. I can tell from the logs when some sort of crap is happening. Its pretty easy of course. Everything will be smooth then a whole bunch of other code will appear.
@Maelthras
@Maelthras Жыл бұрын
I have a well rounded deck I've been playing a version of since arena started that should be winning far more than it does through random chance or deck matchup. It got to ranked mythic at one time. And with 20 lands and 8 1 drop mana dorks. I can tell something is shady. I start games with only 1 or 2 lands, never more. But I will draw forever and never get a third land some times, usually after a short win streak. Other times I'll get 1 land and no mana dorks, and all high cmc cards. I'll mulligan and I'll get also zero land and then mulligan again and just get 2 lands and again huge cmc cards.
@BensonMTG
@BensonMTG 7 ай бұрын
I was 8-10 turns into a game, drew TWO lands in a blue red deck, the only lands being colorless producer Darksteel citadel. Impossible.
@l0lan00b3
@l0lan00b3 Жыл бұрын
When I hit the bottom of a rank I'll lose as much as I can on purpose before I move into bo3 kill spell field wipe tribal. Also can confirm the lands. Built a low curve deck with 16 lands. With a couple draw spells and cantrips I played a land and had at least one in hand for the last 10 games. I get the elo shit but purposely causing you too lose because you win too much is straight greedy.
@knessing7681
@knessing7681 Жыл бұрын
there's obvious scripted (multiple) triggers that fires up when you get your opening hand and to the starting of the game and maybe during the game. This was most evident during the Crimson Expansion (80% to 90% i've encountered) where the opposing players will be dropping full houses, 2 pairs, 3 pairs (was also common) by turn 4 or 5, until they fixed it/changed a variable. *Playing MTGA is no different than playing Slot and Claw Machine where it's already programmed* (most often than not) to handicap you or sometimes enable you. It looks like the switch for the Crimson Expansion maybe turn back on as I'm encountering 70 to 80% of the said mention drops. That is ontop of flooding your hand with high mana value cards, locking you to 2 to 3 lands, flooding you with one type of card/land. I've found that by playing a deck of non-land cards, confuses these scripted triggers, and the deck would draw (almost) like a real world deck, the thing with this is that you're two turns behind behind on land draws because your non-lands cards are coming in tapped. So you're playing against an opponent and who's assisted by the game, while being handicapped by the game and against the game, and from time to time the scripted triggers don't either trigger or they'll throw you an obvious win usually by shutting down the other player. So yes the game is rigged.
@kayingeorge202
@kayingeorge202 9 ай бұрын
While I understand your initial back off in presenting the source, is there anyway you would link it now? Or a way you could get it to me? I am desperately looking for it to no avail and would really like to see it myself.
@ShadowyAngels7
@ShadowyAngels7 Жыл бұрын
For legal reasons it's satire
@coanpayne1007
@coanpayne1007 Жыл бұрын
I just now got done uninstalling this game. It was a close matchup my opponent was at 4 I was at 2 the game blatantly ignored the double strike rule. I killed his creatures they did not have first strike. It was two grave diggers pumped by lord of the accursed. I had a monastery Swift spear and a steam kin. I go to combat and cast twinferno giving steam Kin double strike. Arcane bombardment was on the battlefield . He blocks with two grave diggers both 3/3. I cast twinferno , arcane bombardment triggers then Swift spear then steam kin. Steam kin is at 4/4 and Swift spear 3/4. Second twinferno goes on Swift spear for double strike and the stack resolves. Grave diggers die and then nothing no normal combat phase. Did I misplay by casting twinferno in the middle of combat ? Should I have done it in my main phase or pre combat main phase? I thought steam kin would have hit one more time idk maybe I'm misunderstanding when to cast twinferno
@jeffbrown3209
@jeffbrown3209 Жыл бұрын
I don't play area. I can't argue against the rigging claims, but if it's rigged against people, there has to be rigging for other people.
@oinkleberry
@oinkleberry 6 ай бұрын
I mainline Fynn the Fangbearer in historic brawl and 9 out of 10 of my opponents not only have 1 mana rare removal, but also go first. EVERY game is going second and getting Swords to Plow or Wash Awayed and predicting my whole strategy on "okay so after they perma remove my commander at all times, can my hand still win the game?" It puts me in the mindset that all other Arena players deserve to suffer in Hell. But it can't be right. Matchmaking has to be rigged, there is no other explanation.
@aggrebee
@aggrebee Жыл бұрын
Hope you get better soon, Des.
@cursedbernard5598
@cursedbernard5598 7 ай бұрын
I quit after tracking the coinflip for around 1000 Bo1 matches and finding I went first around 20% of the time. Win rate on the play was above 75%. Punished for building good decks and playing well. Also noticed I played mainly bad matchups after the first few wins. Super frustrating. I uninstalled, sold my paper collection, and proxied a vintage cube. Best decision.
@Aleksandrgrc
@Aleksandrgrc Ай бұрын
Avoid those cards that require a die roll. It's just another "random" thing the dealer gets to control.
@kw8295
@kw8295 Жыл бұрын
I had a feeling it heavily favored those that had purchased product and to get freeloaders (like myself because f@#k giving them money for digital cards that I've already bought packs IRL) I also kept going up against mono black or rakdos (zero brain degenerates) and they got 2 "Dreams of steel and oil" in opening hand and they basically free thoughtseized with zero downside and it basically handed them the win turn 1. Thank you for doing this video and confirming my already held suspicion that the game was rigged from the start and it seemed more unfair than real life and I'm not sorry I can't back a product with worse odds than real life.
@YourGameSucks
@YourGameSucks Жыл бұрын
I've done some testing over the past week (no stats or anything just my own observations). But the game is UNPLAYABLE free-to-play. I build decks with 0-4 rares, no mythics, and run into the full meta decks constantly.
@l0lan00b3
@l0lan00b3 Жыл бұрын
I disagree my brother and I have spent decent amounts and have no luck but on my f2p account which I've bought almost nothing on and have basically gone infinite. I'll 3/3 a majority of drafts on the account I spent money on and I've got tons of screenshots of going 7-1/2 6-3 on the account I've spent like 20 bucks on.
@JohnC-bz8sj
@JohnC-bz8sj Жыл бұрын
I played with a deck for awhile, barely got into platinum. Made some purchases to make new deck, but played my old deck prior to making it. Guess what? Made Mythic. I've never spent money again, the game is also fixed for spenders. They are lucky the don't do this for the paid game I would have reported them to our foreign countries where professional game fixing carries some very serious penalties. I would not feel bad if WoTC CEO has to spend some time in jail in South Korea.
@TrianglePants
@TrianglePants Жыл бұрын
I keep saying and seeing people saying this for other franchises, especially in gaming. This is what happens when people buy middle fingers.
@crcduster2047
@crcduster2047 Жыл бұрын
Play mono blue mill and almost every single deck you play against are 100-200 plus cards
@MrJackPeppers
@MrJackPeppers Жыл бұрын
I am actually glad that happens LMAO
@ChipAhoy91
@ChipAhoy91 Жыл бұрын
@@MrJackPeppers 😂
@thelordsephiroth777
@thelordsephiroth777 10 ай бұрын
this happened to me 4x in a row
@massivemindmeat
@massivemindmeat 10 ай бұрын
Good. Act like a bch get treated like one.😂
@heath1948
@heath1948 Жыл бұрын
Even though I now have a laptop, I’m still not going to play arena because first reason I prefer paper magic commander, especially second standard is so hard to compete in and I don’t have the money to barely by the commander decks. I want to buy let alone go online and buy the cards. I need to have a competitive digital deck in magic arena.
@Norththeninja
@Norththeninja Жыл бұрын
what reddit was the post from? would like to read it myself. thanks for posting this. i can concur on most of this stuff I have felt was going on but had no proof. I hope you feel better man
@Norththeninja
@Norththeninja Жыл бұрын
ha ha found it. its been deleted
@TommygunTorres
@TommygunTorres Жыл бұрын
It was on r/freemagic, saw it when it was first posted. I knew it was going to gain traction.
@soilnrock1979
@soilnrock1979 11 ай бұрын
@@Norththeninja Any chance you could still provide a link to maybe find it in google cache?
@nchammer7907
@nchammer7907 Жыл бұрын
So many cards in paper are upshifted to rare/mythic on Arena so you have to use more wildcards to craft them. Arena is such a cash grab
@Alienhos
@Alienhos Жыл бұрын
I saw that post on reddit, sounded pretty legit tbh
@LSRibs
@LSRibs Жыл бұрын
For this reason and for the fact that they can fundamentally change what cards do for "balancing", is why I stick to paper (cube and commander since I stopped buying products a year or two ago) and avoid online play.
@RazorBrain1
@RazorBrain1 8 ай бұрын
I was doing really well, like a 5 win streak. Then after my opening hand. I drew only lands. 10 times in a row. Then the next match I got no mana had to mulligan got two. Then proceeded to draw no mana 13 turns. Basically impossible statistically. I lost against the worst decks possible. Starting decks were probably better. In Diamond. Shits rigged. That's the time I realized it. The game doesn't even feel like playing mtg IRL.
@luckybones8749
@luckybones8749 Жыл бұрын
I have my own theories on fixed stuff I don't think the draft tables are real. The cycles don't make sense
@nobodyshome6792
@nobodyshome6792 Жыл бұрын
They aren't legit. I've run into pods where the available cards remaining in a specific pack are different from the original cards in the selection.
@johnhammond6225
@johnhammond6225 9 ай бұрын
And now they have a weekly to do 3 drafts... SO you make a shitty gold reward that forces people into the most abusive portion of your game. Disgusting practices.
@anthonygriffin8421
@anthonygriffin8421 Жыл бұрын
I just stopped playing after I didn't have the cards i needed why wouldn't I buy paper magic instead
@Toiletlord
@Toiletlord Жыл бұрын
Is this what it would sound like to wake up next to you?
@Lezdethka-np2bq
@Lezdethka-np2bq 7 ай бұрын
Just got cheated again in sealed,went against people with bot names and they had an answer every turn,then when I play a card that mills 2 it takes 2 of my removal I needed while they just mill lands or decide not to kill suspiciously. They had multiple copies of the same card that was removal. Won't play sealed again on this dog shit AI program game.
@CoryFPS
@CoryFPS Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being able to not believe a source, just because it mostly agrees with what you were already thinking. Big rational brain Des ova here. Get well soon sir.
@LCDqBqA
@LCDqBqA Жыл бұрын
The game is rigged (to get your winrate as close to 50% as possible) just like how hearthstone was rigged, which was confirmed by the devs. To make the game 'fair' if you're a good player you will go second 80-90% of the time. You will also queue into decks that counter your own. It honestly wouldn't surprise me you get other matchmaking 'benefits' based on how much and how decent you have spent money on the game (other games do this, world of tanks, confirmed again by devs), but I thankfully haven't spent a penny on this game so I cannot say.
@fogmap9710
@fogmap9710 Жыл бұрын
Is there a rigged algorithm for draft or just constructed?
@stephenwalter9074
@stephenwalter9074 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that certain times I've had just enough to win a match and the ability of my critter is off by +1+1 ...example an ability that gives +X+X where X is = to the greatest power among creatures you control. Creature is a 4/4 and the greatest power of your creatures. It got +3+3 instead of +4+4....
@Mattball82
@Mattball82 7 ай бұрын
Any time I spend gold on a draft I do reasonably well and win 7 sometimes. Anytime I spend gems on a draft I go 0 and 3. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. It’s usually due to massive flooding out. Oh man and absolutely the put you against decks that perfectly counter yours. When I add something new, I start seeing decks with the exact answer for that and never did before.
@tommystanford7170
@tommystanford7170 Жыл бұрын
SAUSAGE PARTY FTW
@oldmangaming1989
@oldmangaming1989 Жыл бұрын
Shuffler still does that frequently for me....3 or 4 of the same card in my opening hand or within 3 draws.
@daveyjones4451
@daveyjones4451 Жыл бұрын
just seen this and i will be honest it is rigged 100%. When i first started playing i threw about $50 buying packs old sets and new just to have a nice varied collection so i could make the kind of decks i enjoy playing. in two years of playing i hit Mythic in best of 1 pretty much every season with no trouble at all and all my decks had around 70 to 80% win rate. Now due to me being sick ive not been able to work so have stopped sepending money on MTGA. 2 months into not buying packs or mastery pass (I have build up loads of wildcards so in the 2 months i have got all the new cards without spending money) I cannot break out of T4 Plat and my decks are 40% win rate. Even in ramp decks i am stuggling to get more than 4 lands and if i play fast decks like mono red or soldiers i will not get past 2 land.
@paulscott88
@paulscott88 Жыл бұрын
Halo devs talking about matchmaking were probably the most honest about "handling their best players". Essentially they found that when top players played together, they would end up chasing away players (IE: getting too many people to log out for the night). So they ended up slowing down matchmaking for such teams intentionally. (Halo Matchmaking GDC "Matchmaking for Engagement: Lessons from Halo 5" IE: at the allow stacked party chapter they quote a stacked team of 4 people scaring away 20 people (an hour) for the night, which is too detrimental for "engagement").
@CrazyJawas
@CrazyJawas Жыл бұрын
Hope you get better soon Des 🙂
@mikemacek4470
@mikemacek4470 9 ай бұрын
I feel like it picks your wins and your loses when i play it feels like the decks you play against are your decks weakness or the colors the target your color
@brettreeves5470
@brettreeves5470 7 ай бұрын
100% rigged with employee cheats... Submitted multiple complaints with SS's and nada.... I play it for free but will never spend another penny on this game.
@Cosmis5
@Cosmis5 Жыл бұрын
Hope you feel better soon.
@supersaibaman9
@supersaibaman9 Жыл бұрын
when you do vids sick it kinda makes me think its like a midnight radio host commentating on companies failures. im sorry to hear your sick and i hope you get better but imo the vid sounded pretty good lol.
@Achilles789
@Achilles789 8 ай бұрын
I have two copies of agani the planswalker in a deck and have never pulled it and I have one copy of the one ring and I get it in my hand every other game.
@MG-hx3ym
@MG-hx3ym Жыл бұрын
I can prove this to myself and have. Just play a few matches with the same deck and observe the match ups. Then make a sub par non meta deck and you’ll go against the same jank deck/color combos or the exact counter. I made a brothers war set only Izzet deck. I had not seen a single izzet anything after about 30 games. I made my stupid deck and guess what: yeah it was izzet after 30 games of not a single izzet. You can do this over and over and see that the matches are not randomly generated within the rank pools. They are made based on win rate and deck composition. It’s totally rigged. The past 4 drafts I’ve done I’ll go 0-2 then win 5-6, but NEVER take the full 7 wins in a premier draft. On that 7th match all of a sudden the game pretends like you’ve been playing brackets.
@jackbard7454
@jackbard7454 Жыл бұрын
hey, love your content. I'm not super educated or even particularly smart, occasionally clever but certainly not a computer whiz but I have since I started playing have felt it was a bit rigged it sucks loosing games you felt in paper magic you would have won or worse still winning games your certain you won because the system screwed your opponent.
@malicemike6875
@malicemike6875 Жыл бұрын
There's no way I get the only 4, 7 mana drop cards 3 times in a row each time I mulligan. I go first maybe 1 our of 10 times. If I'm lucky.
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