Allen Iverson DID NOT TELL A LIE! - Stephen A. on AI averaging 43 PTS in the modern NBA | First Take

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On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Kendrick Perkins and Brian Windhorst react to Allen Iverson's comments saying he would be able to average 43 points per game in the modern NBA. Then, the panel react to Kevin Durant confronting fans.
0:00 Reaction to Iverson's comments
4:00 How are things different in today's NBA?
6:30 Kevin Durant's interaction with fans
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@eggm0ney
@eggm0ney 3 ай бұрын
Brian windhorst blinking at 100blinks per second is crazy
@mikeallen333
@mikeallen333 3 ай бұрын
I can’t unsee it now…
@tomanguyen
@tomanguyen 3 ай бұрын
Lmao didn’t even notice that. Now I’m just staring at him blinking 😂
@michaelrodriguez7380
@michaelrodriguez7380 3 ай бұрын
yea, and THAT has him huffing and puffing. Brian couldn't do one liner. They should have cut the video before he opened his mouth.
@XPXhumble
@XPXhumble 3 ай бұрын
wow i've never noticed that before
@williesingletonii2312
@williesingletonii2312 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jumbokevin
@jumbokevin 3 ай бұрын
He already averaged 33 points in a season back then so 43 is not ludicrous
@artate92
@artate92 3 ай бұрын
He was being humble by saying that number lol
@palmpalm5663
@palmpalm5663 3 ай бұрын
He was the only person taking 25 shots with 12 FTs a game. He’s not getting 43. People telling me eyetest and I see people like Kyrie out here not averaging 40 😭
@fatality1249
@fatality1249 3 ай бұрын
I mean he definitely could average 43 if he wanted to and if his coach let him do it. Because they’d win about 5 games if he tried to average 43 in todays game. He’d shoot 40 shots a game on 40% shooting.
@waltermitchell2432
@waltermitchell2432 3 ай бұрын
43 is ludicrous. When he averaged 33 he took more shots than any player post 2007. Yall really think AI is 9 ppg better than Luka?
@codybryant7026
@codybryant7026 3 ай бұрын
Exactly in 06 and still came in 2nd place. 33 in 06 is like 43 today only thing Windhorst said that was correct was about minutes idk he they would’ve let him play that much but I doubt he’d go for that
@MacJokerDZ
@MacJokerDZ 3 ай бұрын
This season, the most minutes per game is Demar Derozan at 37.6 minutes. AI averaged 41.1 mins for a whole career in the 90s and 00s. In the league right now he run circles around EVERY body for 48 mins EVERY game.
@waltermitchell2432
@waltermitchell2432 3 ай бұрын
Players play less minutes because the talent in the league has gotten better. AI would not play more minutes in todays nba, hed play less.
@k-ri2023
@k-ri2023 3 ай бұрын
@mitchell2432 Players today play fewer minutes in order to avoid injuries and the wear and tear of the game. This decision is not based on competition, but rather on the request of players who possess the level of talent such as AI, who would be better than 95% of the league in any era. If we were to bring AI from the 2000s to this era, he would still play the same amount of minutes as he wouldn't want to come out, and the team would oblige unless he had injuries that prevented him from playing.
@kennethwalls341
@kennethwalls341 3 ай бұрын
Bro went off in the 4th quarter against the jazz
@waltermitchell2432
@waltermitchell2432 2 ай бұрын
Players who played in the 00s played in the late mid 10-20s and every last on of them did not play even 38 minutes per game. Kobe, Bron, CP3, etc. All players play less, because there are more players that are worthy of playing minutes and it's in the best interest of the top guys to play less minutes to prolong their careers.
@frederickmoorejr2480
@frederickmoorejr2480 3 ай бұрын
The way Perkins put his head down in disbelief and started shaking his head when Bryan was talking😂😂😂
@heels4lifx
@heels4lifx 3 ай бұрын
Perkins has no room to talk with his garbage Lebron and MJ goat takes.
@delljohnny
@delljohnny 3 ай бұрын
Get Perkins off of first take. Shannon is the only reason why I watch first take now.
@williamsc2429
@williamsc2429 3 ай бұрын
Hmm… Perks not lying… The NBA is like a Professional Church League!!! Perk might have some crazy takes but he got that right… That’s an easy 40 a night
@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC
@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC 3 ай бұрын
lololololol.."god bless him!"
@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC
@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC 3 ай бұрын
@@delljohnny dont watch then..easy peasy
@KingMeli
@KingMeli 3 ай бұрын
Windy about to fly away with all that blinking 😂😂😂
@emekaamerican863
@emekaamerican863 3 ай бұрын
Lol he looks like he's trying to stay woke
@dee-5297
@dee-5297 3 ай бұрын
YEAH RIGHT HE CANT SHOOT BETTER THAN STEPH , KYRIE HANDLES BETTER , BRUNSON MORE PHYSICAL...... GO TALK HOCKEY & BASEBALL CALL IT SOFT.......WHAT CAN AMERICAN WHTMEN AVG TODAY IF ITS SO SOFT 😂😂🤡
@zulumon1932
@zulumon1932 3 ай бұрын
You see it too my guy. liar liar your pants on 🔥. 😂 🧐
@BulletAgario
@BulletAgario 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@edwardpiss
@edwardpiss 3 ай бұрын
@@dee-5297Bro you just exposed yourself as a casual watcher. Thats embarrassing asf. 😂😂
@SinestroGreen
@SinestroGreen 3 ай бұрын
Iverson played in a real men’s era
@jetcrews97
@jetcrews97 3 ай бұрын
Iverson would be a headache in today’s league ✅🏀✅🏀🎧🎧 💯💯
@dantefredul6326
@dantefredul6326 3 ай бұрын
the era MJ ran from
@tylerl3510
@tylerl3510 3 ай бұрын
​@dantefredul6326 ran from hahaha you don't know anything about basketball. Stop D ridin lebron
@ericawsome4747
@ericawsome4747 3 ай бұрын
Excuse me Jordan ran from no one he didn't run the man was 40 years old played for the Wizards already passed his Prime and already solidified himself as the greatest player to ever play the game by winning six championships in 13 Seasons also being the star for the Chicago Bulls in the best player in the world during his era and still today he's still the goat ​@dantefredul6326
@purplestate
@purplestate 3 ай бұрын
A less skilled era
@nathancook1058
@nathancook1058 3 ай бұрын
Arguably one of the most underrated athletes ever. Could’ve went pro in football. The guy was a certified bucket with a big heart
@SteelersNSalsa_deMex1co
@SteelersNSalsa_deMex1co 3 ай бұрын
I’m a die hard Lakers fan born and raised in LA, but every time Allen “The Answer” Iverson played best believe I was watching. He wasn’t just an offensive phenom he played some great defense with a crazy instinct for getting steals!
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905 3 ай бұрын
he got many steals yes, but he was by no means a 1on1 defender, not even a decent one
@PetsNLuv
@PetsNLuv 3 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@jyc313
@jyc313 3 ай бұрын
Bro those were the days.
@SteelersNSalsa_deMex1co
@SteelersNSalsa_deMex1co 2 ай бұрын
Remember basketball has its positions, he strapped up all the opposing PG’s and that’s his job… it wasn’t to locked down a 6’6 Shooting Guard or 6’10 PF… cmon homie use your logic.
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905 2 ай бұрын
@@SteelersNSalsa_deMex1co i can only assume you are referring to me, in any case no he did not lol, he strapped up his shoes on defense so to speak yes, he gave plenty of effort, but he wasn't locking down the likes of kidd or payton or billups or marbury or arenas or parker or nash
@joker-kw2ek
@joker-kw2ek 3 ай бұрын
Brian need to said that for them to have an argument 😂
@princecheck11
@princecheck11 3 ай бұрын
thats gotta be the reason he still couldve said he’d avg 43 😭
@Dru2037
@Dru2037 3 ай бұрын
He said the truth
@jetcrews97
@jetcrews97 3 ай бұрын
Brian had to be under the weather Cuzzz Iverson would AVG 43 in todays game
@bighuncho5210
@bighuncho5210 3 ай бұрын
@@Dru2037Iverson was like d rose and ja morant put together without the flashy dunks . Mj said it best. The nba is lucky Iverson ain’t 6’6
@potheadbailey9952
@potheadbailey9952 3 ай бұрын
@@Dru2037u can tell u ain’t watch basketball or Allen iverson play
@famousxji1852
@famousxji1852 3 ай бұрын
AI was physical, durable, and had way too much energy to not be a dominant scoring in todays league. He could definitely average +33 ppg in todays NBA. He’s attacking you 100% with crazy speed, shiftiness, and ENERGY💯
@danomaly8943
@danomaly8943 3 ай бұрын
They act like guys don’t average 30+ without shooting threes.
@mrysl926
@mrysl926 3 ай бұрын
@@danomaly8943yeah but he won’t win anything averaging 43ppg lol. Players who score like that don’t win championships. So he would be scoring 43 for nothing
@user-uv3jp1tj5p
@user-uv3jp1tj5p 3 ай бұрын
Every minute he's in the Game too it seemed liked he never got tired he running the same speed all game long I know whoever had to guard him when he was on the 76 ers had to be like it's gonna be a long night I gotta chase this fool around all game trying to stop him he use to basically wear defenders out in his prime it got to a point where you thought watching him play that man besides Jordan this dude might be the next most unstoppable player ever hes unstoppable I don't care who is guarding him they cannot stop this man..
@danomaly8943
@danomaly8943 3 ай бұрын
@@mrysl926 I agree but I say that about a few players now that put up a lot of numbers but don’t have a chance to win.
@telmolicious
@telmolicious 3 ай бұрын
Every great scorer COULD. Question is whether it would be a good idea.
@LuisRivera-tt2ub
@LuisRivera-tt2ub 3 ай бұрын
That man said “volume scoring is out” that’s insane to say
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905 3 ай бұрын
'tis true tho, at least in the past couple years, only luka left with that high of a usage rate, among guards that is... i guess the james harden saga in houston proved you won't win with a ball hog at the helm
@toveycen4668
@toveycen4668 3 ай бұрын
@@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905😂😂😂😂😂 every team is a 3s volume shooter today with no defense. Without handcheck and with 3 sec Dfen rule. He doesn’t not need to be a volume shooter.
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905 3 ай бұрын
@@toveycen4668 i believe ypu misunderstood, he was referring to individual volume scoring (folks like harden or luka), not a whole teams' 3pt attempts
@youwinlouw3815
@youwinlouw3815 3 ай бұрын
AI played more defense in his day than players do now
@kreamkorn1577
@kreamkorn1577 3 ай бұрын
Lmao.....no he didn't.... AI was my favorite player during his era, but he wasn't a lockdown defender. He played passing lanes well though...
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905 3 ай бұрын
he did and he wasn't a good defender, he put in some effort, which is what today's players won't even do
@youwinlouw3815
@youwinlouw3815 3 ай бұрын
@@kreamkorn1577 exactly my point
@Dayonetheone
@Dayonetheone 3 ай бұрын
​@@kreamkorn1577He put way more effort than these dudes do.
@waltermitchell2432
@waltermitchell2432 3 ай бұрын
He did not lol. And the rules favor the offensive player so hes be an even worst defender.
@GS-mh6ub
@GS-mh6ub 3 ай бұрын
Exactly... forget the analytics. The eye test says that he could average whatever he put his mind to averaging.
@bjrnthebootybandit
@bjrnthebootybandit 3 ай бұрын
That's not how sports work lol. "He'd average xyz because I like how his game looks" the analytics are there to stop the basic dumb takes like this so we actually have some sense
@christopheredwards2516
@christopheredwards2516 3 ай бұрын
​@bjrnthebootybandit mentalities are different from this generation and that. Players back then played with respect for the game and passion these new guys are shallow.
@Dmcq999
@Dmcq999 3 ай бұрын
@@christopheredwards2516fr too much money in it now to care as much, its sad to see talent with nothing driving it
@greekfreak8473
@greekfreak8473 3 ай бұрын
Steph Durant luka Embiid never averaged 43 in this era and ai thinks he could thats ridiculous
@patrickosagie1928
@patrickosagie1928 3 ай бұрын
@@greekfreak8473steph is only ranked higher than AI because he has won more championships. AI vs luka, embiid, or even KD or Curry. Those current stars will lose every time because he could score like them but he is tougher, and more rugged than this stars of today
@rome24k
@rome24k 3 ай бұрын
Not to mention he woulda been living at the free throw line.
@robdawson5835
@robdawson5835 3 ай бұрын
This is what I'm saying 👏
@benogotti2k972
@benogotti2k972 3 ай бұрын
im talking about stright chilling at the line because these big man aint use to a lil heavy rocket who can MF JUUMP
@PoohShimmy
@PoohShimmy 3 ай бұрын
​@@benogotti2k972ja morant??
@arcellmcgowan1517
@arcellmcgowan1517 3 ай бұрын
Bucks had 3 offensive stars Ray Allen Big Dog and Sam Cassel. Philly had one AI and they beat us to go to the finals. He gets nothing but kudos from me🙌🏾
@princellasmith7562
@princellasmith7562 3 ай бұрын
KD not having those hecklers removed should be getting more coverage.
@JamesTechjackinJackson
@JamesTechjackinJackson 3 ай бұрын
Bubba Chuck would give these young fellas crazy work.
@Khamiooooo
@Khamiooooo 3 ай бұрын
Crazy work!
@OLONGAPOMATTAPAN-cj7sr
@OLONGAPOMATTAPAN-cj7sr 2 ай бұрын
JJ BUBBA WILL HAVE 2 PLAY DEFENSE.
@countdrago03
@countdrago03 2 ай бұрын
​​@@OLONGAPOMATTAPAN-cj7sr dude! chuck always plays defense you definitely only watched the highlights 🤣
@OLONGAPOMATTAPAN-cj7sr
@OLONGAPOMATTAPAN-cj7sr 2 ай бұрын
HE PLAYED AGAINST INFERIOR TALENT KAIBIGAN, THESE PLAYERS R MORE TALENTED. ROSE / IRVING / LILLARD / ANTHONY EDWARDS / JA MORANT.
@mikesmoot1090
@mikesmoot1090 2 ай бұрын
put up 42 was cake, in today system, yes 40 average but in attack mode 50 to 60 in today EASY !!!
@beefpho
@beefpho 3 ай бұрын
Defense? Iverson did play defense! He led the league in steals 3 times. 14th overall in steals history.
@user-nr6ul3pw3q
@user-nr6ul3pw3q 3 ай бұрын
That was more passing lane than lock down defender. I love AI but he was basically Steph on D but shorter.
@tronwilliams8781
@tronwilliams8781 3 ай бұрын
AI himself said he couldn't play one on one D because he was too small and played passing lanes.
@BrandonJones-wt1op
@BrandonJones-wt1op 3 ай бұрын
Playing the passing lanes but Ai only 6ft bro he one of my favorites but he only 6tf bro
@chrissancajr2841
@chrissancajr2841 3 ай бұрын
10steal playoff record
@KnucklesWTD-uu3ps
@KnucklesWTD-uu3ps 3 ай бұрын
​@@tronwilliams8781thats more defense than Curry
@roelmanucduc
@roelmanucduc 3 ай бұрын
Don't ever let anyone who has never played any sports in their life be talking about stats and analytics, that is all the best resource they can tell you.
@chrismateo9895
@chrismateo9895 3 ай бұрын
Winshorst saying that AI would be a target defensively is hilarious 😂 at this day where defense does not exist? Haha
@deshaunsherrill4184
@deshaunsherrill4184 3 ай бұрын
He meant when AI is on defense not defense on AI
@dresantana7157
@dresantana7157 3 ай бұрын
@@deshaunsherrill4184 iverson was a crafty defender tho. He lead the league in steals a few times if I can remember
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 3 ай бұрын
AI was an average defender at best. Steals =! Defense@@dresantana7157
@jb6360
@jb6360 3 ай бұрын
So Iverson will be a target on defense, but Steph Curry is playing defense ??? Thats laughable to say Iverson can stand beside Curry like Curry has ever led the league in steals. Curry didn't lead a team of nobody's to the finals.. Curry had 2 defensive players and a 3rd at all times... Iggy, draymond, Thompson, in the beginning stephbdidnt even play in 4th qtrs because of defense.. it was Monte Ellis playing
@waltermitchell2432
@waltermitchell2432 3 ай бұрын
​@@jb6360AI had dpoy and 6th man of the year when he went to the finals. Just because YOU dont know them dont mean they were nobodies. That team was built around AI strengths and hid his weaknesses
@arkadiuszrogala1359
@arkadiuszrogala1359 3 ай бұрын
“Forget the eye test, he shot better than the numbers say” -Perkins
@analyticalinsight
@analyticalinsight 3 ай бұрын
Perkins a clown
@gglil6
@gglil6 3 ай бұрын
Not even what he said
@joelgriffith1654
@joelgriffith1654 3 ай бұрын
​@@gglil6agreed
@codybryant7026
@codybryant7026 3 ай бұрын
That’s the problem numbers only tell part of the story. Players know what’s up they don’t pay attention to percentages like that. Especially bc they know certain rules and schemes affect that
@Full_Wave
@Full_Wave 3 ай бұрын
Iverson should have been in the 3 point contest because he shot at will with great form.
@JonSnowsGhost
@JonSnowsGhost 3 ай бұрын
When it comes to AI the stats don’t tell the whole story. He had to take so many shots because he was working with bums. And still he dragged a team full of plumbers to the NBA finals by himself against Prime Shaq and Kobe.
@nathangerrard9792
@nathangerrard9792 3 ай бұрын
lol no because no half decent player wanted to play with somebody that takes al the shots i'm an Iverson fan but so much cap when people talk about him
@StatikFresh4
@StatikFresh4 3 ай бұрын
1,000%
@yungnflashytv
@yungnflashytv 3 ай бұрын
How old are yall? He had the best defense in the league for multiple years
@user-uv3jp1tj5p
@user-uv3jp1tj5p 3 ай бұрын
Team full of plumbers 😂😂 if it wasn't for Shaq and Kobe on the same team Iverson would have a championship..cause he avg close to 40 in the finals against them..
@kejreed6233
@kejreed6233 3 ай бұрын
AI definitely punched above his weight
@brucetumblinjr7980
@brucetumblinjr7980 3 ай бұрын
A.I. was fearless when he was playing
@BA22378
@BA22378 3 ай бұрын
He'd definitely be averaging 40 dude was a bucket, the nba is tailored made for guys like that now, he'd be getting to the line alot too, obviously great players in any Era will still be great, greatness is greatness and it cannot be denied
@bjrnthebootybandit
@bjrnthebootybandit 3 ай бұрын
If KD ain't and Steph ain't and Lebron ain't then he deffo aint
@AfroWasiu
@AfroWasiu 2 ай бұрын
@@bjrnthebootybanditthey play differently from AI though. Also, back in the 2000s, the refs blackballed AI. When the gambling stuff from the refs came out, they admitted that they would only call 1 foul per 5 fouls on AI that they would’ve given any other player, because they hated AI. AI represented everything that they hated about people, and, in the words, they wanted to “punish” him. So he could’ve averaged even more back in his time
@jakealbis954
@jakealbis954 3 ай бұрын
Perks reaction to Brian’s take has me crying .
@ericcarvelli9773
@ericcarvelli9773 3 ай бұрын
Allen Iverson in his prime was the biggest headache to everyone in the nba, Kobe Bryant has said numerous times that he absolutely hated trying to guard Allen Iverson, in this soft era of the NBA now he would absolutely dominate, and the funny thing is he knows it 100%
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 3 ай бұрын
EVERY ERA IZ SOFT AND WOULD GET DOMINATED BY HIM!!!
@luthfeeghazale6206
@luthfeeghazale6206 3 ай бұрын
Not just Iverson, i think Tracy McGrady could also average like 43+ in today's game
@brendaarmstrong7944
@brendaarmstrong7944 3 ай бұрын
Michael would give this NBA 40 easy, so would Melo and Kobe. Marbury would drop 30pts 12 asst 9 boards
@blaz2515
@blaz2515 3 ай бұрын
Yeah i guess every superstar from older eras would average 40 in todays NBA makes sense when literally nobody has done that in todays NBA.
@luthfeeghazale6206
@luthfeeghazale6206 3 ай бұрын
@@brendaarmstrong7944 wasnt melo played in this era? He ended his career in 2022
@TheLusianPopa
@TheLusianPopa 3 ай бұрын
Perkins facial reactions 🤣
@gotit5219
@gotit5219 3 ай бұрын
Steven A and Perkins is 💯💯 correct
@Alex-kq1el
@Alex-kq1el 3 ай бұрын
AI was a fearless warrior with the heart of a lion. Most players today cry over spilled milk. Give AI his flowers
@kvbvl7285
@kvbvl7285 3 ай бұрын
AI had that dawg in him. He may of not attended "practice" as much as we would of liked him to, but when he stepped foot on that floor, he gave it 110% of all his efforts and as fans, that's all we can ask for💐
@miatodd3236
@miatodd3236 3 ай бұрын
Preach! I really believe if he had helped he would've won a chip
@jetcrews97
@jetcrews97 3 ай бұрын
My mannnn A.I🏀✅🏀✅🎧🎧
@boochtron
@boochtron 3 ай бұрын
I would rather bash my head against a wall than watch AI play basketball
@purplestate
@purplestate 3 ай бұрын
His fearlessness didn’t translate to alot of winning seasons.
@vharris5503
@vharris5503 3 ай бұрын
He only was a volume scorer because there were no other serious offensive threats on his team during his prime. You surround him with other threats, he gets easier shots, which increases efficiency. The game is wide open now and primarily Pick and roll, which means he gets easier shots.. which increases efficiency. He also would benefit from how smaller players get calls in today's game. Windy said he would be targeted on defense as tho the majority of the guards in the league are these defensive dynamos, he at least led the league in steals multiple times!! I can name several starting premier guards who aren't good at defense AT ALL. CMON MAN!
@Darcel.Brown.
@Darcel.Brown. 3 ай бұрын
The proof of what you’re saying is the fact that he shot 45, 35, and 80 with Nuggets and averaged 25 points a game.
@vharris5503
@vharris5503 3 ай бұрын
@Darcel.Brown. I always felt they didn't give that situation enough time, but that's cuz of George Karl smh
@thegame7557
@thegame7557 3 ай бұрын
He would then be forced to share the ball. No other star is willing to just stand there and watch him work. It is the issue with Doncic today. This guy thinks he would average twice what Steph averages
@Darcel.Brown.
@Darcel.Brown. 3 ай бұрын
@@thegame7557 this really depends on if you’re removing him from the situation he was in. If in this hypothetical scenario he’s with the team he had then his production increases, if you’re putting him on a better team his efficiency increases and production decreases.
@thegame7557
@thegame7557 3 ай бұрын
@@Darcel.Brown. Do you have an example of such a team today where he would average 43? I would guess he would want to be in a playoff team which narrows this for you. Now which team?
@almightypushhh385
@almightypushhh385 3 ай бұрын
I don’t even watch basketball like that anymore
@Cb_30
@Cb_30 3 ай бұрын
Can we get 2k25 with A.I. on the cover and play some of his memorable games
@poonamboodwa7989
@poonamboodwa7989 3 ай бұрын
No 🙃
@Cb_30
@Cb_30 3 ай бұрын
@@poonamboodwa7989 and y not
@edwardkeeler
@edwardkeeler 3 ай бұрын
Ai said, he was averaging 33 , with the fast phase game today it is safe give 2 more points evey quarter, and thats 41 fair enough
@angelvilla3996
@angelvilla3996 3 ай бұрын
Forget to mention it’d be two less minutes each quarter
@chadwickchapman4100
@chadwickchapman4100 3 ай бұрын
Meaning his usahe would only be higher lol ​@@angelvilla3996
@waltermitchell2432
@waltermitchell2432 3 ай бұрын
How many shots did ai take when he put up 33? 27 a game. He was shooting -45% for his career. Ylu think a modern team is letting AI shot the ball 35 times a game?
@edwardkeeler
@edwardkeeler 3 ай бұрын
the truth is no one knows, this is all just sake of the conversation, but i believe he can whether he shoots badly or in a bad team,
@Jay.King23
@Jay.King23 3 ай бұрын
Iversons game was two fast for Windy blinks to see
@VictorVonDoom.
@VictorVonDoom. 3 ай бұрын
*too
@BradleyLodge
@BradleyLodge 3 ай бұрын
​@@VictorVonDoom.I noticed that 😂
@4evahodlingdoge226
@4evahodlingdoge226 3 ай бұрын
Iverson faster than D.Rose, J.Wall, D.Foxx and Westbrook? Every guy i just listed is more athletic and bigger.
@chrisdamon1096
@chrisdamon1096 3 ай бұрын
Yes he's faster and better than everyone you named
@DB_1973
@DB_1973 3 ай бұрын
@@4evahodlingdoge226 Iverson was more athletic than any of the guys you just mentioned.
@cheznathewarrior3759
@cheznathewarrior3759 3 ай бұрын
The legend who helped held the NBA afloat. Amen. I always say that.
@visionsofpromise
@visionsofpromise 3 ай бұрын
Its not that they don't want to play defense. It's that the rules are built for offenses to flourish today. No hand checking, guys are allowed to essentially travel due to the new zero step rule, etc.
@judohunter1
@judohunter1 3 ай бұрын
Nah some are also lazy on getting back to transition defense and it shows
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905 3 ай бұрын
indeed, also they do not want to play defense lol... it is obvious, if i can play 15 years at 20 million a year why would i want to play 12 seasons for 20 million a year? the point being playing hard and playing defense and taking charges and challenging people at the rim takes a toll on your body, especially when it is guys like zion or davis or giannis who's chest checking you
@amoremusic14
@amoremusic14 3 ай бұрын
Hand check wouldn’t work in the era everybody got handles including big men
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905
@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905 3 ай бұрын
@@amoremusic14 define work, for sure we wouldn't see the average 10th seed going for 130 every night, for sure we wouldn't see scrubs averaging 25 on empty calories, i tell you that much
@toveycen4668
@toveycen4668 3 ай бұрын
And 3sec defense rules basically kick big men out of the paint.
@motm369
@motm369 3 ай бұрын
Bro. Prime AI during 2000-2007 was unstoppable!!! Maaan. He scorched VC raptors, Kobe/Shaq LA, Ohh man!
@xJetx
@xJetx 3 ай бұрын
Wasn’t it till 09 cause that his last all star or smth or no
@mansakhanlv8487
@mansakhanlv8487 3 ай бұрын
09
@amirmoheet9684
@amirmoheet9684 2 ай бұрын
Scorched the Lakers? In game one. 4-0 after. Internet logician.
@dadillonful
@dadillonful 18 күн бұрын
How? He went to one finals and never got close again
@AnthonyTaylorJr210
@AnthonyTaylorJr210 3 ай бұрын
Perk 😂 “My eyes tell me different” The bases of his whole argument
@feral_dove
@feral_dove 3 ай бұрын
Four box w/ sas on one side and windy/perk on the other with highlights in center is WIIIIILD!!! Sick production
@Therealstizz
@Therealstizz 3 ай бұрын
When Perk started laughing, I started cracking up 😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
@TheHorrorFactory
@TheHorrorFactory 3 ай бұрын
Thousandth comment! 💪 A.I. was the only AI we used to talk about when I was growing up. Bro was a beast!
@karenmorgan8900
@karenmorgan8900 3 ай бұрын
Yessss indeed Iverson so small but he can get 50 points nowadays !! The crossover will loose them🙌🏾✊🏾🤲🏾#3
@2408spydah
@2408spydah 3 ай бұрын
The spacing in todays game is huge compared to the 90s. Iverson fg % would be higher in todays game
@heatherjackson920
@heatherjackson920 3 ай бұрын
I just love first take. It’s too good.
@bjrnthebootybandit
@bjrnthebootybandit 3 ай бұрын
Perk argument "forget numbers and facts, my EYES say so"
@JoshJ1997
@JoshJ1997 3 ай бұрын
People must forget about iversons energy like they're were no breaks guarding him he was relentless and his stamina was crazy. Nobody attacks the basket in todays game like ai did his motor is what separated him. He would live at the line today with all the weak touch fouls they call. Iverson was faster than everyone and has the best first step of all time, and one of the all time best finishers. Idk about 43, but he would of dominated todays game.
@DeadlyBeast205
@DeadlyBeast205 3 ай бұрын
AI even had certain plays and freelances set up for him. Dude was a problem
@DAllen81
@DAllen81 3 ай бұрын
Great points Wendy and I’m a Iverson fan. You have to talk about both sides.
@rafealwhite731
@rafealwhite731 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@semi6544
@semi6544 3 ай бұрын
The way KD handled that conversation with the rude fans is a form of leadership. Players can see how KD handled that situation and follow for a positive result. Leading by example is a viable way of leading. Not everyone is going to follow and not everyone likes the choice you made, but those who do will see a great template for how to operate in the future on and off the basketball court.
@tito9560
@tito9560 3 ай бұрын
Huh?
@eramsey1982eram
@eramsey1982eram 3 ай бұрын
And Windy says he only shot 31% from 3 not realizing it’s even easier to get open for 3s than it use to be so his percentage would’ve definitely been higher 🤦🏽‍♂️
@thegame7557
@thegame7557 3 ай бұрын
Do you think they were defending 3s at the time? Most teams just defended the paint
@willdeandre9375
@willdeandre9375 2 ай бұрын
It is so much harder to get open threes than it ever has been. Watch an old game, they don’t defend the threes at all
@laketones2000
@laketones2000 3 ай бұрын
OMG First time in my life i totally agree with Perk. :)
@TuPhonez4Free
@TuPhonez4Free 3 ай бұрын
That bro Perk went in! Let's go! 😂
@Istaytlkncrazy
@Istaytlkncrazy 3 ай бұрын
Has anyone ever been to an nba game? Literally 100 percent of the shots taken there’s a hand in their faces
@alexandreb-h7423
@alexandreb-h7423 2 ай бұрын
They just lie to make the older generation look better
@gongshowjimmy557
@gongshowjimmy557 3 ай бұрын
A ton of children in these comments that were too young to understand prime AI's dominance.
@Strongdadlifting
@Strongdadlifting 3 ай бұрын
No. You are delusional. AI wasn’t even efficient. Just stop😂
@asoto718
@asoto718 3 ай бұрын
Facts! These kids dont know how soft basketball has gotten over the past 10 years.. no defense at all. Even jordan would have scored close to 40 a game in todays game!
@nb346
@nb346 3 ай бұрын
​@@Strongdadliftingdefense focus on allen iverson during hand checking era. Why double team a player if he is inefficient?
@shaheemtaylor960
@shaheemtaylor960 3 ай бұрын
@@StrongdadliftingA.I was a beast. Scoring machine with nasty handles. There is a reason why he’s on the 75 all NBA team.
@Strongdadlifting
@Strongdadlifting 3 ай бұрын
@@nb346 because he was the only one shooting 😂 Man played individual hero ball. Why wouldn’t you double team. Horrible era of basketball.
@setatsdetinu3704
@setatsdetinu3704 3 ай бұрын
Perfect production. I wanna give a shot out to the production crew. Who does that ? Me tonight ! The editing was 1 of 1 nothing short of phenomenal perfect ending to what was a perfect set up and segment. Bravo Guys ...👌🏾
@dirtyr1937
@dirtyr1937 3 ай бұрын
Heck yeah perk !!!!!!!! My eyes 👀 tell me different also !!
@SILMANTV
@SILMANTV 3 ай бұрын
As an AI fan this is what I be talking about when it comes to him and Kobe all logic goes out the window and so many feelings come into play.. Windy was absolutely right pointing out ALL aspects of basketball and not just highlighting the fond memories AI would probably average 35-38 on 39% from the field and 25 attempts and get cooked on defense high volume scorer for sure he was dope for what he was and gave us great memories but the glazing is ridiculous he stirs up so much emotion because of how he made us feel and once again SAS and perk are in touchy feely mode this is where Max balanced the show out and won a lot of arguments
@jermaine9411
@jermaine9411 3 ай бұрын
Love AI too two fav players him and Bron but AI not averaging 43
@soda8736
@soda8736 3 ай бұрын
Perk and Stephen just caught in their feelings and nostalgia, you can look at this argument and see why owners might favor "analytics" guy over "eye test" guys
@phitlife_tx
@phitlife_tx 3 ай бұрын
I'm w perk the facial expressions
@Trap323a
@Trap323a 3 ай бұрын
Facts!!! And he started shooting 3s more than a lot of other guards too 🤨
@jaystacks5249
@jaystacks5249 3 ай бұрын
How is iverson gonna avg 40plus when steph or nobody today does??? Love iverson but those older heads need to stop the cap.
@toveycen4668
@toveycen4668 3 ай бұрын
1 extra foul a quarter.
@alexanderadonyae7937
@alexanderadonyae7937 2 ай бұрын
Iverson would definitely average over 40ppg in this era 🔥 Iverson in his prime was unstoppable
@jameswilliams3310
@jameswilliams3310 3 ай бұрын
WINDY is so scary sometimes lol ..... Iverson would average 45 in today's game!!!! And he wouldn't be shooting a bunch of 3s!!!
@rickpersaud7016
@rickpersaud7016 3 ай бұрын
Let me get this the greatest shooter in history can't average more than 32, but someone that jacked up 26 shots to average 30. Would average 43. Delusional on another level.
@fromdeathtolife1993
@fromdeathtolife1993 3 ай бұрын
3s are so over rated...
@rickpersaud7016
@rickpersaud7016 3 ай бұрын
@@fromdeathtolife1993 the jailball era is what you call overated.
@rickpersaud7016
@rickpersaud7016 3 ай бұрын
@Cannoli_kuku so that is not saying much. If any superstar now can average over 40 points, all they need is to jack more shots up, so what is so nice about that???
@fromdeathtolife1993
@fromdeathtolife1993 3 ай бұрын
@@rickpersaud7016 that is this Era hot trash..
@user-vk1yx5tz7l
@user-vk1yx5tz7l 3 ай бұрын
Most exciting athlete of all time period ! Coming from a Canadian!
@kannduce1529
@kannduce1529 3 ай бұрын
Always gonna be someone to argue against the Sky being blue😂
@kvbvl7285
@kvbvl7285 3 ай бұрын
AI has multiple scoring titles in one of the hardest era's. His play style was also very aggressive, he never stopped going at the basket, played many minutes and was sometimes a ball hog😅. This dude would defo average 40+..
@truth459
@truth459 3 ай бұрын
Facts
@pumelelabanca1442
@pumelelabanca1442 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes? Nope. He was a ball hog.
@danomaly8943
@danomaly8943 3 ай бұрын
6:00 Wimby bring up 31% on threes as if todays top scorers like Harden and Paul George shoot much better. Luka is a volume scorer…Jimmy Butler is a low percentage 3pt scorer. Yes we have guys that are snipers but dudes try and make it seem like everyone is shooting better and they’re not. They are just shooting MORE. AI would shoot more threes in today’s game. Giannis, KD and Embid don’t rely on 3s and average 30. Ja Morant gets off and he doesn’t rely on 3s…why do they let a guy as big as Perk but never played give these takes
@gmailgmail6234
@gmailgmail6234 3 ай бұрын
They do shoot much better
@Steps.To.Sucess
@Steps.To.Sucess 3 ай бұрын
Ai would be a ja Morant does he average 43 points
@tommysanchez3364
@tommysanchez3364 3 ай бұрын
You can't just forget the numbers and Analytics perk. He's not averaging 43 but id say 35 possibly, Which is nothing short of AMAZING
@3igSoulja
@3igSoulja 3 ай бұрын
“Windy . God bless” 😂😂😂😂
@JDigg99
@JDigg99 3 ай бұрын
Lol at Windhorst and the defensive liability comment 😒. As if Steph and Dame aren't all-stars
@SamuelJ888
@SamuelJ888 3 ай бұрын
@@Cannoli_kuku cuz he played in an era where defense was easier to play. cant have it both ways
@Cahluvca
@Cahluvca 3 ай бұрын
🎯
@IAMCOREYCASH
@IAMCOREYCASH 3 ай бұрын
He would score 43 sometimes. Y’all crazy thinking someone can average 43 today
@laketones2000
@laketones2000 3 ай бұрын
That's just my opinion. Kobe, Iverson, Jordan, Wilt, Shaq, all of them would average around 40 today.
@IAMCOREYCASH
@IAMCOREYCASH 3 ай бұрын
@@laketones2000do you know how much of a ball hog you have to be to average 40? Do you know how many shots attempts you have to average to average 40+. Y’all gotta use y’all brain.
@laketones2000
@laketones2000 3 ай бұрын
@@IAMCOREYCASH My record in official game (40 minutes) is 34 and i almost died, i was so tired after that game. But im at most 5% of Iverson, so yes i can imagine he would do that.
@x-asharchangel-xii1500
@x-asharchangel-xii1500 3 ай бұрын
7:26 Stephen A Doubled Down On The *Sassy* with the *And Doesn't Do It* he just forgot to say *Boo Boo* 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@eldawg1325
@eldawg1325 2 ай бұрын
I wish they would bring hand checking back into the game.
@sabarasts
@sabarasts 3 ай бұрын
💯 facts AI knows the league is soft right now, he was averaging 30pts a game back in the days, right now you can’t even touch the offensive player
@MinisterMikedaLevite7575
@MinisterMikedaLevite7575 3 ай бұрын
FACTS!!!
@jeremyfaison6406
@jeremyfaison6406 3 ай бұрын
Perk faces be having me weak when he disagree with something😂😂
@Rom63241
@Rom63241 3 ай бұрын
Facts Perk and Stephen A
@Jdior620
@Jdior620 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Stephen A and perk for bringing this topic back up !!!! Tim ledger and Windy were bugging out 😮the other day covering this topic….AI average 30 5 times!!! And one of those seasons average 33 when the NBA defense was more physical,less positions and ppl shot less 3 pointers! Come on
@thegame7557
@thegame7557 3 ай бұрын
Taking that many shots would only be possible if playing in a lowly nonplayoff team. Point out a team he would come in and take that many shots...
@Jdior620
@Jdior620 3 ай бұрын
@@thegame7557 averaging 43 on a non playoff team is still averaging 43 in the nba
@soda8736
@soda8736 3 ай бұрын
Everyone has different eyes. And people who say eye test, only remember the great plays, the analytics give you a more well rounded view
@2464tejas
@2464tejas 2 ай бұрын
People forget one big thing. The ability of a player to find answers to the challenges and overcome them. AI had his fair share of challenges back then and he overcame them as a player. He could do the same in this era to the challenges which Bryan mentioned. He was special and special players always shine.
@Mkephillway
@Mkephillway 3 ай бұрын
Man ai with 2-4 3pt shooters out there with him on an island it a be crazy to see. He averaging 40 .
@lesdaddy917
@lesdaddy917 3 ай бұрын
I love windy he right about iverson
@yuniorreyes.130
@yuniorreyes.130 3 ай бұрын
His game is tailor made for PGs of this era. Maybe not a crazy number like 43 but he’s def averaging a bit more than what he used to.
@jaykal3716
@jaykal3716 3 ай бұрын
Steven A knows his basketball 🏀
@philipharrison2417
@philipharrison2417 3 ай бұрын
TRUTH
@maDMan0894
@maDMan0894 3 ай бұрын
A.I 43 😂 couldnt believe it Brian right sometimes even we may know he can guess Brian went crazy on Perk last words😂
@josephstringfellow1853
@josephstringfellow1853 3 ай бұрын
The Best thing that was said Forget them numbers he could hoop 🏀
@soda8736
@soda8736 3 ай бұрын
People hate the numbers argument when the numbers aren't in their favor. Sports is numbers, when the NBA stops keeping score then we can say numbers dont matter.
@Fitzgeral89
@Fitzgeral89 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely, ai wasn’t shooting a lot of 3s and getting to the hole
@AverageMyth
@AverageMyth 3 ай бұрын
Exactly Perk believe what you see not what you're told.
@soda8736
@soda8736 3 ай бұрын
People who say that only remember the good plays.
@KingGazaRadio823
@KingGazaRadio823 2 ай бұрын
He ain't lying either 💯
@elliottwilson2352
@elliottwilson2352 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Windy
@VWeGoBeachNow79
@VWeGoBeachNow79 2 ай бұрын
A I had the biggest heart for his size when he played
@rulerjayohenn3161
@rulerjayohenn3161 3 ай бұрын
When the hand checking stopped AI or nobody elses average went up
@Achillez_Heal
@Achillez_Heal 3 ай бұрын
Reply by that time he was with the nuggets with melo. He didnt have to score as much
@eric02156
@eric02156 3 ай бұрын
Winhorst gonna get Cooked on this bad Take.. Tons of NBA players & vets are tearing him up on this one! Even PERK was shaking his head on this one ...😂😂😂😂😂
@Supaaaa
@Supaaaa 3 ай бұрын
Perkins @ 5mins in 😂
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570 3 ай бұрын
Sounds right to me…slow day because this is easy work for The Answer.
@user-fg5yt7ct6x
@user-fg5yt7ct6x 3 ай бұрын
Perk had me dying 😅
@homeraleguis3124
@homeraleguis3124 3 ай бұрын
Oh that last part by Perk telling Windy what his eyes said is satisfying.
@Diego-fy6qz
@Diego-fy6qz 3 ай бұрын
It's a terrible argument though. Facts will always beat feelings
@soda8736
@soda8736 3 ай бұрын
Everyone has different eyes. And people who say eye test, only remember the great plays, the analytics give you a more well rounded view
@Alex-wz9ze
@Alex-wz9ze 3 ай бұрын
@@soda8736 nerd you’re wrong but let’s do it your way anyway. Let’s talk numbers then nerd, when AI averaged 33ppg the league average was 97, today it’s 115, the average pace was 90, now it’s 99, now lets talk ball, there’s more space and they play less aggressive defense. You get it now? Bums.
@Alex-wz9ze
@Alex-wz9ze 3 ай бұрын
@@Diego-fy6qzshut it. Learn ball kid
@Diego-fy6qz
@Diego-fy6qz 3 ай бұрын
@@Alex-wz9ze someone's mad 😂😂
@TheCctechlive
@TheCctechlive 3 ай бұрын
I say bring hand checking back enough said!!!
@tommypiffington3374
@tommypiffington3374 2 ай бұрын
The eye test ❤ think about a chess player… He can’t do it now because of computers but … man to man killing all em
@SalKhayer
@SalKhayer 3 ай бұрын
Windy got that Ozempic eye twitch
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