Harrison Butker Calls Out IVF, Abortion & Feminism | Guest: Ron Simmons | Ep 1004

Today, we’re talking about the sentencing of multiple pro-lifers who are now faced with years in prison for trying to block people from entering abortion clinics. We explain how hypocritical this is for the DOJ as well as why the pro-life movement needs to readjust its priorities. Then, Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker gave a commencement speech at a Catholic college that has stirred up quite a bit of controversy from those claiming he should be kicked off his team for his conservative Christian views. Then, Allie's dad, Ron Simmons, joins to share the latest on election polling, RFK Jr.’s abortion flip-flopping, and what’s going on with the supposed upcoming Biden-Trump debate. Also, Ron answers your questions on politics, family, and parenthood.
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Timecodes:
00:00 Introduction
00:30 Share the Arrows event
08:30 Pro-lifers indicted
28:26 Harrison Butker's commencement speech
34:34 Election updates
42:00 RFK Jr. on abortion / economy
1:00:30 Questions for Allie's dad
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[@magnolia31611]

As a Catholic wife, mother, and homemaker, Harrison Butker’s speech brought me to tears. Seeing him pour out his love for his wife, and sharing how much what she does means to him was just such a beautiful thing to witness. God bless him, and I pray that God’s blessings are poured out for Him, his lovely wife, and their family🙏🏻❤️

[@lyricallynn6527]

More on Harrison kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpfQoWqfrbCnoKMsi=hqz62_r_5DknhAMd

[@magnolia31611]

@@lyricallynn6527 I was Protestant for my entire life until 2020 when I decided to actually look into church history, and dig deeper into the Bible, and theology. I love Jesus with all of my heart, and that is why I am Catholic. Catholics are very much Christian’s, and I am absolutely saved by Jesus, in His grace. I will pray for you🙏🏻

[@eliwithgod4848]

Catholics were the 1st Christians and the only ones for over 1,000 years. Please study the history of Christianity from the source. We all can fall in confusion at some point; but, ignorance won't be our bliss.

[@nickfraser422]

@@magnolia31611 brilliant!

[@hailchristandmary]

Harrison Butker is a real man, role model and a good Christian. God bless his family.

[@lyricallynn6527]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpfQoWqfrbCnoKMsi=hqz62_r_5DknhAMd

[@nickfraser422]

Catholic , you mean?

[@oliveri9407]

@@nickfraser422protestants aren’t Christian, they’re heretics.

[@HopeDotey]

He is NOT a Christian. He teaches a false gospel.

[@mayragarciasanchez9305]

As a conservative Christian, football fan (New England Patriots die hard) I will take Butker in a heart beat! He spoke the truth and we need more men like him!!! Catholic or not... he spoke the truth and I like him!

[@sozonpv]

Catholic or not? Do you think his practice of Catholicism is making him lost or based?

[@GratiaPrima_]

Catholicism is why he said what he said! He spoke nothing but Catholic faith and family values 😊

[@2023_Kassi]

You just want someone cool on your team 😂😝

[@mcgulliksen2021]

"Catholic or not."

[@thorpeaaron1110]

​@@mcgulliksen2021What's wrong with Catholics yall believe the same bs.

[@carrielynn1978]

I absolutely love Buckner for what he said! I was so happy to see him speak the truth!

[@Shawn-nq7du]

Stand in solidarity with Butker. GET A BUTKER JERSEY to stand up for families.

[@qb4428]

So give money to the NFL that threw him under the bus?

[@andynowicki4532]

​@@qb4428he gets most of the money from jersey sales, not the NFL

[@Marcus-lj8lc]

This is a good idea

[@TheNephilim101]

Woman here. GO BUTKER !!! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@jamestrotter3162]

I listened to Harrison Butker's entire speech. Everything he stated is completely Scriptural, and Jesus Christ approves of his speech. The NFL and all his critics can go pound sand.

[@lyricallynn6527]

Not so.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpfQoWqfrbCnoKMsi=hqz62_r_5DknhAMd

[@user-ij7zz1rb2e]

Not even a big football fan, but just ordered his jersey. I'm a fan of bravery, truth and God and Harrison such a light in this dark world!

[@Marcus-lj8lc]

I cried tears of joy hearing him speak

[@Crawlingdreams418]

I'm yet to listen to his speech entirely, but I appreciate your country for giving freedom for different people to express their views. I'm happy for his wife and I hope the two of them continue having the most caring relationship

[@baileewishart8856]

I'm a die-hard Green Bay fan, who just purchased my first non-Packers jersey in my life! Was super stoked to see when I was adding Butker's jersey to my cart that it's become one of the most popular jerseys on the market right now!

[@qb4428]

So you think you're helping by giving money to the same NFL that threw him under the bus?

[@A_Pie323]

Love the fact that KZbin forces me to look at the context box about “abortion health information.” Sickening. 🙄 😒 😠

[@anairenemartinez165]

I don't read anything I rather don't.

[@taram9409]

Yeah, I want to puke every time I see that.

[@MC-kt6mt]

What a message full of hope Allie, thank you! Unfortunately, I live in another country. Hope we can see it!

[@Ana_Cecilia615]

I just couldn't control my tears about this abortion evil. And wow, does this atheist put many Christians to shame. We should proudly wear pro-life shirts! That's an *easy* thing to do. That really stirred something up in me to be unashamed of being pro-life.

[@taram9409]

Amen 🙏 you are so right!

[@marsha5605]

Powerful episode. You're really roaring the truth!! Go girl!! 🦁

[@entwifey]

I love that Allie has her and her baby in the beginning- that was just too sweet

[@joemoore9248]

God bless you Allie Beth. You are an inspiration to me.

[@eddazangenberg5089]

I see in some comments that Protestants and Catholics are fighting and arguing. This is such a pity. The world is in chaos and we should stand together against evil, instead of judging each other's 'Christianity' and calling each other 'not Christian'. Even Jesus said "whoever is not against us is for us". Clearly H Butker is for Jesus. Why else would he end his speech saying 'Christ is King'?

[@marshaclark1398]

Loved his speech # God bless him for speaking his mind

[@LaneSims]

Thank you for your courage Allie Beth

[@Chrissy-ot2hi]

“Share the arrows” sounds amazing but living in Australia will just have to be praying for you all 🙏🏻🥰

[@jenniferperez1944]

Best speech ever, just ordered his T-shirt ✝️👑🌹💍🕊️🙏🏻✨

[@salberthal88]

Can you post a link to his shirt?!

[@anairenemartinez165]

Good to see a strong decent man. I don't grasp what's wrong with IVF, I am a Catholic with questions.

[@cristinamz2137]

The ivf process abortion embryos. It treats women as things.

[@Ramonsotojr]

The Church says "no" to IVF due to the massive destruction of embryonic life, the assault on the meaning of the conjugal act and the treatment of the child as a product not a gift.

[@Ramonsotojr]

Just do a search on why IVF is wrong and why the church teaches against it.

[@carolcarroll-thomas2735]

❤!Amen and amen to standing up for truth.

[@ConservativeMama-xw1du]

My guess is that the other potential speaker is either Lila Rose or Candace Cameron Bure. Love the idea for the event and hope I can find a way to get there!

[@Pipers_hooman]

I was thinking Abby Johnson too.

[@GratiaPrima_]

Oooh, I hope it’s Lila!!!

[@astrongmama]

I loved him when he was just an amazing kicker. I love him more after this.

[@diannasmith5705]

I am proud of the chiefs player ! Being strong ! Coach Reid has a few good men on his team

[@melanieburns6009]

I really appreciate athletes that are outspoken about their faith!! Courageous! I need some of that❤

[@robertherrera1234]

Except this is a false Gospel. Did you hear him say that he hopes through his marriage he will achieve salvation? Salvation through sacraments that are not found in the Bible is works based.

[@jeremynethercutt206]

@@robertherrera1234 that was very bothersome, salvation is of the Lord secured within our justification solely based on our faith alone in the finished work of Christ, he either took your sins on the cross and you bring absolutely nothing to salvation other than the sin that makes it possible or you believe you have control over it in which case you would never obtain or keep it. let’s just say they have a lot of issues they have a lot of error within their theology, They have a lot of holes. They have been brainwashed. ManyXhe classified himself as a Catholic over and over and over again, speaking to a Catholic audience, I assume and understand that, the one thing we can do we are in this world. We face the battles of the world because we are on the same moral ground of Gods law and commandments- he is Lord, creator and savior and comfort he is our sovereign King, we have a mutual ground to fight alongside but there are issues that we are separated on, then we can speak of the biblical truth in hopes that they will listen communicate or discuss these matters with us we have to be equipped properly. We have to understand what they truly believe theologically, I did not agree with things that were said but morally I do and that’s where we can agree. So do we accept to fight alongside morally or let it destroy that we disagree on so much when it comes to salvation or any theological matter ? It’s tough. I agree

[@lyricallynn6527]

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[@melanieburns6009]

@@robertherrera1234 well yes, I wasn't 100% on everything he said... But the Bible does say something about women being saved through child bearing, so not exactly sure what that means, so maybe the wording isn't meaning the kind of salvation that saves you from hell.. I don't know??? But the fact that he is bold, that is what I admire... And he does believe in Jesus

[@JLP72517]

Thank you for speaking the TRUTH

[@FredTonelli]

Wonderful dad!😊

[@hannahsharitz702]

I hate how no one talks about how many woman are forced and pressured into abortion by their partners!! Most woman don’t want to make that choice! society and people push it on them.

[@lynhastings8671]

Some people are absolutely talking about this.

[@MJ-st9sq]

It’s probably fewer than women who want abortions but the dad doesn’t but they get it anyway.

[@MJ-st9sq]

Also what’s the point? What does it bring to the pro life movement? Not really a good excuse unless these women are under extreme duress to get it for example prostitute/pimp situations.

[@taram9409]

Yep, this happens a lot, and it needs to be discussed more. We need a society where abortion is unthinkable, for anyone, for any reason!!

[@reys7510]

Great broadcast so many true points on here

[@CarportCarl]

The AZ legislature recently sold out to the abortion industry, they should have left the 1864 law in place.

[@alyssahooper1784]

Idk how anyone can see a baby and think that abortion is OK. I'm sitting here looking at my 3 month old on the verge of tears hearing about these 5 babies

[@pauldbeer]

Go ladies! Up and forward in faith, with Christ on our side!

[@rebekahtemple250]

Love your announcement! I’m praying for you and the success of this event.

[@Goatfarmer93]

As a farmer, I would point out, the cost to produce eggs HAS, in fact, gone up significantly because fuel has gone up and consequently the cost of animal feed has gone up. I'm sure the commercial growers don't have quite as much of a cost increase as those of us who have smaller farms but i think it's ignoring a large part of the current economic issue to say that the production cost of eggs hasn't gone up. It has. Biden messing with the oil industry has affected everything because of the rise in fuel costs.

[@HaleyBe]

Listening to this episode and feeling my 18 week old baby move around in my womb makes cry and my heart shatters for all the babies who deserve to live and didn’t get their chance at life. I live in Canada where we have probably the most radical abortion laws in the world and I’m disappointed that our main candidate (Polliviere) will not open that discussion; he will probably not change our horrific laws on abortion. I personally will not vote for him but it’s a shame that the only candidate who will at least open this discussion likely won’t win.

[@shelleyirwin6104]

I’m a Shipt shopper so I have a lot of pictures of grocery store prices. I documented as much as I could during the pandemic. I have a picture of eggs in 2020 for $.49. And recently took a picture of those same one dozen eggs is $2.49.

[@beckybates543]

Thank you for covering this. Please keep talking about these that stood up and tried to advocate for these babies, I pray they win their appeal. These long sentences are ridiculous! If they violated a law then I agree they should have a consequence, but this long of a sentence is ridiculous! I will keep these people in my prayers! 🙏🙏🙏

[@sandyhill2564]

Allie, you made me cry. I love babies. I was having a really hard time listening to you. But I got to thinking -- if there is anything at all comforting about these horrific acts committed against these precious babies, it is that they are now with our Lord in heaven where there is no suffering, no pain, no crying. They have complete and utter joy and peace. I want to be there. Come Lord Jesus, soon and very soon.

[@rhondapatterson1]

Allie Beth’s Dad for President! 🇺🇸

[@williammollyvanronzelen8241]

no, not after that answer he gave about Ukraine and Israel. No more foreign wars, no more foreign entanglements.

[@KarinaMartinez-dl7oq]

Thank you so much for your comments on immigration. 💕

[@whitneymilgate7975]

I wish I could go to your amazing event! I live in Canada and I'm so heartbroken that I can't go to this!!! Wish it were going to be livestreamed!

[@Morgan-pf8nu]

I love your dad. He seems like a great man just like my dad. Cherish time with him because it’s so very short

[@lynhastings8671]

They are both in Christ, so, not really.

[@melissalehman9396]

I truly wish I could vote for RFK. I love everything he stands for EXCEPT for his abortion stance. That’s a hill I will die on though so he lost my vote. ❤️‍🩹

[@lyricallynn6527]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpfQoWqfrbCnoKMsi=hqz62_r_5DknhAMd

[@Indiamoon7]

Same! Heartbreaking 😢

[@BeskeDagmar]

Hallelujah!! The daily Jesus devotional has been a big part of my transformation, God is good. I had a $47,000 loan from the bank for my son's (Oscar) brain surgery. I am now debt free after I invested $8,000 and got my payment of $30,500 each month. God bless Deborah Lee Clark.

[@LafaverVonholt]

Congratulations!! The scriptures clearly states there's going a transference of the riches of the heathen to the righteous.God keep blessings you

[@LafaverVonholt]

But how do you make so much in a month? mind sharing?

[@BeskeDagmar]

Thanks to Deborah Lee Clark.

[@issoufcoulibaly7221]

Really feel your pain when I was even almost down my God sent to me Deborah Lee Clark services cryp to me and changed the game automatically.

[@matobama42]

I've always wanted to be involved for a long time, but the volatility in the price has been very confusing to me. Although I have watched a lot of KZbin videos about it but I still find it hard to understand.

[@sarahthompson9217]

Allie I wish you would do a book club!

[@erica981]

I guess I’m going to Texas ❤️🥰

[@mmilliganjr]

Allie I'm fan who drums and I've been trying to figure out the slightly off time flurry in your intro and after two months I figured it out! 😃✊

[@stacievernier6600]

Allie, how can we get the early bird tickets to Share the Arrows?

[@Lovelife10934]

Thank you Allie❤❤ I don’t understand how people are willing to do whatever for human approval but be okay, to disobey god!

[@aprilwashington3150]

I pray to God, that a day never comes where he or his wife needs his mother's expertise 🙏

[@tyrelnatashanuzum8956]

Only thing i disagree on is cost to produce eggs HAS gone up because feed costs HAVE gone up and building material cost DID skyrocket.

[@ontherightpath333]

Come to Colorado!!!

[@michelebevans]

He cleans up well

[@cheryljensen6765]

As a non demonational believer...Packer fan...will support him. God rules.

[@carolinaespinoza199]

I sadly don't live in Texas I live in Miami, FL I wish I could go.

[@juliacipollone7688]

Allie I want that color sweatshirt but I don't see it on the merch site! 😢

[@makeitcount179]

St Paul wrote : "For I delivered to you 1st of all that which I also received that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures(4) and that He was buried and that He rose again the 3rd day according to the Scriptures." 1 Corinthians 15:3,4

[@joykeebler1916]

- WWII, pushed the United States out towards international involvement and so could no longer to be fully restricted and concentrated as within nationally anymore -this was eventually that of inevitable no matter to what

[@makeitcount179]

"Having a Hope in God that there shall certainly be a resurrection of the righteous and the wicked (16) I do my best to maintain a blameless conscience before God and men" Acts 24:15,16

[@katieholmes8661]

Just bought his jersey!

[@erhardtharris8727]

Best new conference name.

[@marieloumontenegro3103]

Proud Catholic ❤❤

[@heatherpizano6410]

I’m all for home-making and raising up our children but its not un-godly for a woman to work. The proverbs 31 woman bought real estate, made and sold goods at the market, and so much more. She was a homemaker and but also worked too. His idea that the women’s ONLY purpose is to be a homemaker is just wrong. You really think God only has one sole purpose for every woman? God has given countless purposes to important women in the bible. God gives all women today different purposes, gifts and talents for His glory.

[@ginagonzalez8923]

I agree with you. I cringe when i hear people talk like this. My own personal story is i never wanted children ..not ever. I just never felt like i had that desire. I ended up having a child and honestly i cried when i found out i was pregnant..and not tears of happiness either. OF COURSE i adore my daughter and i wouldnt trade her for the world but does that make me any less of a Christian or woman if i didnt ever have one? Just like Paul says in the bible not all people should marry..i believe yes we are given the blessing of being able to have a child but i dont for a second believe that women who cant or dont want children because they feel their calling is someplace else should ever feel bad for that.

[@janetl_s2988]

Milwaukee & Madison explain WI.

[@anastasiahertrich4745]

That infomercial 😂

[@lynhastings8671]

Allie's dad so naturally saying "Great job!" to her at the end, tho.

[@NelidaUtuwatu]

I would so go, but I live in Florida now with my husband. I moved here less than a year ago and can't travel to Texas as much. Maybe I'll try! 😂

[@berniewilbanks1272]

Unfortunately all three contenders believe in abortion. Trump just came out and said he thinks 15 weeks is a good time frame. We have NO picks.

[@williammollyvanronzelen8241]

I am not gonna lie, I physically cringed when her father gave that neocon nonsense answer about Ukraine and Israel. Like, dude, did you learn nothing from the last quarter century of endless war and chaos?

[@ninasbunny]

Under his eye.😔

[@laurenc6706]

RFK is a sellout you can tell that was painful for him to say.

[@luthasunspell8365]

Thank you for opening with the pro-life advocates. I have argued with people online about late-term abortion, but I’ve never met anyone IRL who supports it. People instinctively know it’s murder. We need to keep pushing the Overton window until every baby is safe.

[@willname1654]

What happened to the premiere?

[@joykeebler1916]

- the instruction of the father and the commandments of the mother

[@joykeebler1916]

- and commandments mean as to walking steps

[@joykeebler1916]

- because everything within the hearts of men have to made manifest And this is why of the seemingly so long as for

[@lindseysanders3656]

Last I read, Trump was ahead in Wisconsin.

[@tracis4781]

Do an episode on Mica Miller Case

[@jetdriver26]

He advertised a false works based gospel.

[@adamwalker2377]

Isn't it stupid from an economic standpoint to support the reduction of your own customer base?

[@stephaniedavis1847]

Allie ...I have some concerns about Tara - Leigh Cobble whom you had invited on your show. She's shown to have an affinity with false teachers ... though you tend to be doctrinally sound but ....I think you should be careful about who you bring on your show ... I'm not accusing you but this is just a humble exhortation

[@user-ju4wy5no9m]

❤❤❤

[@user-bl3dh2dz4r]

I love your cross necklace allie beth.

[@rhondapatterson1]

I tried so hard to see it and her microphone is in the way! 😆

[@michaelg4569]

Jesus is coming soon. This country is ripe for judgment. Fear God and give him glory, for the hour of his judgment is at hand!

[@Metalsmithnna]

Allie Beth, animal feed, fuel, other sources of energy, and fertilizer costs have exponentially increased-THATS why egg prices are up.

[@jimr4319]

What the NFL seems to forget is that while pandering to the dissenting voices on Butkers superb commencement speech, 95% of those individuals do not watch the sport. In castigating and estranging themselves from Butker; for fear of social castigation by those vocal few, shouldn't the NFL be more concerned of the fall out by criticizing Butker on an opinion shared by 98% of those who do watch the sport? Shouldn’t memory serve them well and recall what happened to Gillette razor and Bud lite Beer?

[@aprilwashington3150]

I can't wait to lean into my VOCATION so MY LIFE can begin. -Signed 49 yr-old alive person waiting to take her first breath 😂

[@jeans4887]

Nobody ever talks about the influx of people coming to our country with loaded credit cards thanks to the government and how it affects inflation. If 10 million people coming into our country are using resources is a result supply and demand makes the prices go higher.

[@williammollyvanronzelen8241]

the problem is its not just or even primarily the government, but an entire global network of charities, 501c3s, NGOs, etc, that hand those people everything they could possibly need. Many Americans and Christians with good hearts naively give to those organizations and it is used to hurt us. It gets washed through so many organizations that it's impossible to know where your money actually goes.

[@armouredryan]

So... the big announcement isn't Allie changing her mind on low rise jeans?

[@rager4able]

Everyone follow his socials Support him They’re trying to cancel him….

[@BobbyDg5]

Why use the Butker speech as the title of the episode when you only talk about it for 5 minutes?

[@lexir7504]

omgg i wish i could go i live in okc so a bit of a drive for me 3 hours i think but i have a 2 & 1 year old and i'll probably be having my third baby right at the beginning of september so i'll only be a month postpartum 😭😂 i don't think i could figure out the logistics of all of that working out for me sadly

[@Dre61112]

Your husband can’t watch the kids?

[@lexir7504]

@@Dre61112 he could but i'm going to have a newborn and i wouldn't want to leave a newborn all day

[@micheletisdale7467]

Wow!! Two days ago, I had to do some quick research on hummingbirds bc my neighbor found a hurt baby in his yard. I read it is very difficult to rehabilitate them. Nevertheless, an animal control officer was sent out after i called to take the bird to a wildlife facility. A HUMMINGBIRD!!!! IS MORE VALUABLE THAN A BABY!! 😢

[@ericawarner3330]

I just can’t watch rfk without clearing my throat 123 times

[@aceraphael]

🤣

[@nparksntx]

So sad to hear that about Herb! Your right that she is demonstrating Christ like behavior.

[@timothyneumann6586]

There are some denominations who honor the church year and tend to avoid the themes that don't regularly come up in the Revised Common Lectionary. They mention ethical and political themes that come up in the regular course of pericopes. The full counsel of God has to do with the cycle of theological emphases brought out by the church year. There are those who are more Low Church that just open the door to the pastor haranging away on his pet issues with frequent freetexting that avoids the whole of the entire thing. I am with the Lutheran tradition, which avoids the expository (Bible study sermons) and purely didactic method that avoids proclamation. Preachy is better than teachy.

[@Millycastelo]

I’m sorry they shouldn’t have been blocking the entrance to an abortion clinic. I don’t personally agree with abortions but blocking the entrance is against the law; one doesn’t justify the other. My friend had to go to an abortion clinic to remove her dead baby from her womb and was bombarded by people saying she was a murderer. It completely traumatized her. People need to be kinder and approach other with more love. Standing at an abortion clinic like a psycho doesn’t do anyone any good and makes Christians look really bad

[@flower18777]

Thats terrible,Why didnt she go to the hospital?

[@marissajames6830]

​@@flower18777yeah why didn't she?

[@Frozentamale]

That's sad.. but why she didn't go to a hospital? 🤔

[@Millycastelo]

@@flower18777 I’m not sure but I’m going to ask her and come back to let you know.

[@lynhastings8671]

If you believe that abortion is murder, you act like it. What do you think of people who disagreed with slavery but weren't willing to help anyone and put their lives on the line? Kinda lukewarm, right? And if your friend was seeking miscarriage care, she likely would have just said so. No offense, but I've literally NEVER seen Pro-Life people outside of clinics hollering horrible things at ladies. Not once. In fact, it's QUITE the opposite, by which I mean, they are begging these ladies to let them give them resources and to pray over them, etc. Miscarriage care is regularly done at hospitals and there's not really much reason for her to seek OR be referred to an abortion clinic specifically. 😕