What Does It Take to Fit 33's and a 1" spacer with no rubbing on a 2022+ Nissan Frontier?

[@4rr44E]

Putting 33s on mine soon, so this was helpful. I got rid of my spacers and went with aftermarket KMC Mesa wheels which have an 18mm offset and pushes the wheels out nicely.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Nice! Glad it was helpful.

[@KingV98]

I got dx4 0mm offset on 285 on a 2.5in leveling kit, it was rubbing super bad, went down to 275 and was still rubbing quite a bit, had to do a bit of trimming.

[@jefftutorow8068]

I really don’t know why they didn’t make the wheel wells a little bigger they know people are going to getting bigger tires

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Would make life a lot easier on those of us that want even slightly bigger tires.

[@monocogenit1]

I did something similar on my 23' pro4x. and I agree they need a little wider stance on pro4x with the plastic fender flares. looks weird after you lift it. Mine has a 2-3" lift and the tires are skinnys, 255/80r17. I used spider trax wheel spacers on the stock wheels. they are 1.5". Had to trim similarly to you. I had the Z1 spacers originally, but didn't like how they fit. fit kinda loose on the hub. made in china. spider trax has been around for a while and made in USA. nice quality.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Definitely heard good things about Spidertrax. I've had good luck with the brand I'm running but they're all sort of a gamble (except spidertrax, haha). And agreed 100% on the stance. I couldn't do it without the spacer. Will eventually swap to different wheels with a better offset, but for now with the stockers, I like it with the spacer.

[@Bananahammock88]

I just purchased these in a 285/70r17 for my 4Runner.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

They're great tires.

[@Bananahammock88]

@@AllThingsOverlanding good! I’m glad!

[@allenwoodring4447]

Like your video some great information there your camera is a little out of focus had to freeze frame to see exactly what you were talking about the tires look great too your truck looks really awesome 😎 oh yes and I fast forward through the introduction music 😁

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Yeah, sorry about that. The autofocus was apparently going wild and I didn't realize it until after, :(.

[@chrisunderhill8853]

i have the same tires, same size, i have the ADO titan swap kit. i still had to melt mod the rear part of the front fender. no rubbing at all never cut any out tho. i did trim a tiny bit of the last part of the fend skirt. i do have spacers on the rear wheels to push them out another inch to get closer to the front span. my lift is aprox 3.5 inch all around. I do also have the CBI front bumper as well.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Love the CBI front bumper. Nice set up!

[@gryoda3483]

Looks great. I did 275/70/17

[@PRO4XKEV]

This is the size I would go with.

[@snowsolo]

Yep that's what I'm doing also. Already did my 2 inch ADO lift and AAL and a 1inch spacer. I don't off-road much except for archery deer kill recovery and chopping firewood and occasionally snow covered roads. Looking at the 275/70/17 firestone destinations XT. Should give me another half inch height and almost another half in width plus remain a good road tire and fairly quiet. What tire you thinking about going with?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Thanks!

[@IronJoe]

Good job Jason! Those 33 must be small, I don’t know. I had to cut WAY more with the same size tires and 0 offset wheels. I mean way more. My truck also sits a good inch higher then yours.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Interesting. These trucks don't really take bigger tires very easily, haha.

[@Bananahammock88]

These 285’s are the biggest 285 on the market. They measure 32.99” when most are 32.6-32.7

[@michaelmacdonald7342]

I would fabricate a insert to cover up that hole and prevent debris from filling that void in the lower fender, but great job on the mods to accept the 33" rubber - looks great.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Yep, good idea. I'm not terribly worried about it (yet) but will likely figure out a way to either add some aftermarket thinner mudflaps that cover the hole and keep rocks off the side of the truck or figure out some way to block that hole.

[@-Dwight-Schrute]

After cutting the metal back, have you considered putting bondo in the void and protecting the hollow area? Since you know what that hole looks like, do you think that's an option? I'd like to keep it sealed after modification if possible.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

It's a pretty big hole, but I have thought about possibly getting some spare fender liner material and trying to extend it down in a way that doesn't catch on the tires. I did spray a bunch of anti-rust paint in there and I make an effort to keep the mud and stuff out of there after a trip, so I'm not terribly worried about it.

[@-Dwight-Schrute]

I still have the stock wheels and tires on my 22 Pro 4X and I just put 1.5 in wheel spacers on and I'm rubbing bad! I have a 2.5 in lift in the front with larger UCA. I've carved the bottom edge off the mud flaps and cut the whole center of them out. I'm trying to keep them on only because they look nice from behind... I've heated and pushed the liner and got it almost good enough, I only rub now while turning sharp and braking or accelerating at the same time.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Yep, it's just the spacers. I went down to a 1" spacer and that helped quite a bit with rubbing, but it's kind of an either or I feel like. You either get the look you want, but with some rubbing or a fair amount of modification to make it work or you lose the spacers, :(.

[@mastodon24]

Where did you fuel mileage go, when you lifted and bumped up your tire size? I mainly commute in my truck so I don’t NEED the larger tire, but I could justify it for weekend camping out on the coast

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Great question. It's not terrible, but it's not insignificant. I was averaging about 19-20 with mostly highway driving and with the lift and tire change, I dropped to about 16-17 MPG. I've also been driving more short trips around town (bought this truck right before a 2 week, 5K miles trip to Wyoming) so that could be a factor, but I would conservatively estimate 2-3 MPG drop is pretty standard.

[@mastodon24]

@ worth it though

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

@ agreed, 😁

[@Mountain_Soldier]

Brother I appreciate the video. I just bought a Pro4 X. I got the 1.5 wheel spacers for the stock tire/ wheels. After seeing your video, and from your experience, do you think there’s going to be any rubbing with the mud flaps?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Congrats on the truck! 1.5" spacers cause a lot of rubbing. Like, almost can't turn the wheels. That's why I backed down to 1" spacers, but still had to do some cutting and remove mud flaps. If you go with a bigger lift than me, you might be able to make them work though. Hope that helps!

[@mtdusmc9437]

I have 1.5" spacers on stock wheels and tires with a leveling kit. Only had to trim the bottom of the front mud flap. Doesn't rub at all unless you are really off camber.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

@@mtdusmc9437 You're lucky, :D.

[@sobalmedia1694]

Hey man found your channel awesome! Great info. Sorry for my ignorance what would be the cons of running spacers? I just installed the rckilla I also have stock wheels .thinking of getting the Z1 1” spacer. Just wondering what to look out for. What would be signs of things going wrong. Aside from wheel falling off lol. Idk I still learning little by little . Thanks for you help!

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Welcome! Honestly, I don’t see a ton of downsides to spacers, except that I guess it could put a little bit of additional strain on the axles. I’ve run them across multiple vehicles over the last 20 years and never had any problems. It might wear out your bearings quicker, but again, I haven’t noticed anything super out of the ordinary.

[@cameronwilson2711]

Hey. Did the 1inch spacers clear the factory wheel studs?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Yep

[@GrumpyFelo]

I dont watch much of your content but i guess you are on rckilla? If i install 1 inch wheel spacers, i would just go with 275 70 17 at that point

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Yep, RC Killa. 275's would be a decent option too.

[@thejudge3132]

Do you know if the wheel spacers cause premature wear on suspension components? I want to get 1" for mine but I have read it's bad for the wheel bearings, ball joints, etc.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

People say that all the time in FB groups, but honestly, it's just like putting on aftermarket wheels with a 0 offset. I don't think any additional wear is noticable or serious enough to worry about. I've had 3 Nissan trucks (and multiple lowered cars) with spacers and never had any extreme wear. I might have had to do wheel hubs a few thousand miles sooner than stock, but to be fair, I'm also going through water crossings, lots of dust, and putting a ton of wear and tear on these components outside of the wheel spacers. I'll always run spacers or more aggressive offset wheels on my vehicles because I like how it looks, haha.

[@TheSouthPaw]

I didn't have an issue fitting 33's with a 1.5" spacer on my 3rd gen, minor trimming, but after adding a more negative and wider rim I would have had to really take out allot of metal. I don't get how guys are running the titan swap without hacking the truck up bad, I have a 5 inch lift and just clear.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Agreed. I have a 2nd gen that’s Titan swapped and it has probably 3+” cut off the front fenders and a bit cut off the front of the rear quarters so that everything clears at full compression.

[@jasenswick7725]

quick question. Great video, but I hear the AAL adds capacity to the payload. Did it change the ride with an empty bed? I'm torn between the AAL or a lift shackle. Thoughts? I don't run my truck overlanding with bed racks etc, and have only ever towed one time with it so far.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Thanks! When I put on the AAL, I was surprised how similar it felt to stock. Definitely lifted the truck up a bit, but the ride was largely the same. So, I don't think you'll have any issues running it without any weight in the back. If you switched the whole leaf pack to the parabolic which is really intended to carry more weight, I think you'd see a stiffer ride for sure. I've got the parabolics but have been holding off on installing them until I get my bed cap and rework the back of my truck to get the weight that will be in it, in it. Hope that helps!

[@jasenswick7725]

@@AllThingsOverlanding Sure did thanks! Parabolic is out of my price range to be honest. I was just largely looking at the AAL or the lift shackles. I"m sure for my use case, either would be fine, but there is nothing wrong with a little extra capacity in the back.

[@brochilldude]

Hey, good stuff, next time can you make sure the camera is focused on the correct depth? It is frustrating as a viewer when people are trying to show detail and the focus is on the wrong subject. Thanks!

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Yeah, I'll have a word with the camera's autofocus.

[@misaelmartinez7937]

Did you have to upgrade UCA or its not need it? I heard with the spacers theres contact at full drop.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

With the small size of the all dogs lift, I don’t have any contact with my UCA so I didn’t upgrade it at this time. In a year or two when I end up doing a full suspension upgrade after there’s been some wear and tear, I will most likely upgrade UCA’s at that time.

[@JT-ld5kh]

I did a 2.5 inch in the front with All Dogs Offroad upper control arms. Seems great so far.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

@@JT-ld5kh they make good stuff.

[@michaelharris8228]

Truck is looking really good. I'd like to see a set of Icon Rebound 8's, bet they'd set the truck off nicely!

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Those are sweet.

[@imcrux6583]

I plan on getting ADO’s Fox extended travel kit, will put me up to about 3” of lift front and rear. Will that maybe help reduce the cutting or even eliminate having to cut that metal piece? No serious wheeling yet, but wouldnt mind the 33’s with a 1” spacer

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

That might help a little bit. I'm basically rubbing on the bottom few inches so if your tires hit lower then you might be able to avoid some of the modification.

[@monocogenit1]

nope. I have the exact same lift, for a bout a year now. still have to trim. I have 255/80r17 with stock wheels and 1.5" spider trax spacers. maybe without the spacers. also, don't get the parabolic leaves unless you are going to put 300 plus lbs in the bed at all times. they are stiff. and squeak like crazy. its looks nice now with spacers. went back to factory leaf pack and a add-a-leaf. no more squeak, and ride quality is back to stock. supple.

[@terencetampan5811]

Question is 285/65 or 70/ fits with no issue even without lift on the factory pro4x rms ?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

That's what I've heard. 285/70R17's fit with no lift and no modification, but that seems tight to me.

[@PRO4XKEV]

yes they fit, however the front splash guards have to be removed. Also keep in mind not all tires in 285 70 17 are same diameter, some brands are a little larger or a little under size. Also 285 70 17 installed without a lift or level kit look kinda odd.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

@@PRO4XKEV yeah, good points!

[@ChefAlexSocci]

I pulled the trigger and will be picking up a 22 frontier sv 4x4 this week. Im working out a deal to include a/t tires from the dealership. Will the 33’s run on the stock truck decent enough to use for a week until i can get some spacers ordered?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

You might have to remove mudflaps and maybe even have a little bit of rubbing on your fender liners, but you should be able to make it work for a week. Without wheel spacers, they fit better. I have wheel spacers on mine and they rub like crazy but on stock wheels and stock height you should be OK with a little bit of rubbing.

[@tugmaster1962]

Does it void the warranty when you lift the truck . I always heard it voided the warranty I have a 2024 Pro4X

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Ultimately, it kind of comes down to the dealer, but realistically, no. First of all, dealers can't "void" a warranty. They can refuse to do work if they think the issue was caused by an aftermarket part, but with suspension lifts, there's very little that that could do to cause any issues with major components of the truck. For example, if your engine died, they couldn't really blame the suspension for that because they're completely unrelated. Now, if you put a supercharger on your engine and tune it incorrectly and the motor blows, the dealer/Nissan would have a pretty strong case to deny to repair or replace it in that instance, siting that the modifications likely caused the issue and therefore, they aren't liable for repairing it under warranty.

[@stephenfazekas5054]

Any metal that you cut I would use seam sealer

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Good tip. I painted it, but that's even better.

[@Nuñez-b2c]

When you had your stock tires(dynapro at2) , did you ever air down on trails? If you did how low you were comfortable airing down to? Will be doing section 2 of the wabdr and was wondering if I should airdown with my nissan frontier pro4x 2024 stock tires. Any advice will be appreciate it.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

I had them on when I did the Wyoming BDR last July and I think I aired them down to 15 with no problems.

[@Nuñez-b2c]

@@AllThingsOverlanding thank you very much for your reply! This information helps alot.

[@Trootfisher]

Kinda wild how this truck comes with 32” tires but you have to do a lot to fit 33s. I don’t trust wheel spacers for serious off-roading.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

True. It’s crazy how tight the tolerances are factory. I’ve run wheel spacers on my last three trucks and done a lot of off-roading with no issues but lots of people hesitate so totally up to the owner in whether they want to run them or not.

[@justaname109]

Pretty sure 33’s will fit with just removing mud flaps if you stick with stock wheels. The issue comes when you add the 1”+ spacer or like myself, I have a 0mm offset wheel, so that is where you will have the issue.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

@@justaname109 yep, exactly

[@richstafford1245]

@@AllThingsOverlandingthen why add wheel spacers?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

@@richstafford1245 Because I like how the truck looks with them, 😂

[@ford130]

Much change in fuel economy after installing 33s?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Definitely the biggest drop of all the mods. Probably lost about 2-3 MPG with the 33's. I also have about 1000 pounds of weight worth of gear in the back, but I had that when I went to WY last year and with stock tires, I still averaged 19-20 MPG. Now I'm getting about 16 or 17.

[@PRO4XKEV]

After you installed the 1 inch spacers how much of the OEM stud stuck out? did you have to trim the stud to fit the wheels?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Nope, no trimming. Just put the nuts that came with the spacer on the stock studs and then put the wheel on the spacer and tightened everything down.

[@TheSouthPaw]

You don't have to trim the stud

[@richstafford1245]

Do you think the nismo spacer lift and 0 offset wheels would work to get skinny 33s under a 24 S model?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

It should work, but I would think with the 0 offset, you'd run into similar issues to my spacer in that it changes the angle a bit and might cause contact with the bottom of the fenders. If you check out some of the 2022+ Frontier Facebook groups and search for 0 offset wheels, I bet you'll see some people running that same setup and they will have talked about how it fit.

[@JT-ld5kh]

I got 285/70/17 I already had a 2.5 spacer lift on front and 1.5 shackles in the back. Once i put the tires on, its not rubbing the wheel wells at all.. But it's rubbing on the damn sway bar! So it sounds like if I get 1" wheel spacers, it will clear the sway bar, but I'll have to cut the truck up a little. What a f*** job man. For anyone reading this, just buy a bigger truck. This sh! is kind of ridiculous

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Yeah, unfortunately that's par for the course for fitting bigger tires on these trucks. I've had 3 Nissan trucks and they've pretty much all required the same. It's honestly a small amount of cutting and once you've done it once or twice, it's pretty easy, but if you're not up for that, there are other trucks that fit bigger tires better. However, historically, most of those are less reliable so for the exchange in fitting bigger tires more easily, you're rolling the dice more on the powertrain and electrical components, so I've just dealt with the slight inconvenience of having to cut a bit to fit the 33's in exchange for a solid all around truck that will last for years.

[@JT-ld5kh]

@AllThingsOverlanding turns out it wasn't the sway bar. That's what the dude at the tires shop said but he was wrong. It was just a small piece of plastic. I got it shaved down this morning.

[@adriangonz899]

New subscriber here, I just bought a Pro-4X a couple of weeks ago. I was wondering how much difference if any, was noticed on the overall ride quality when you lifted and installed 33’s? I’ve been super impressed at how quiet the cabin is in these so I’m most likely keeping it stock for a while but just for reference in the future. Thanks and keep up the great work! 👍🏼

[@Lilchamps805]

The truck feels stiffer with the ado rckilla lift but not bad and I’m running skinny 33s which doesn’t require any cutting or spacers only having to remove the front mud flap and you get no rubbing.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

I didn't notice much if any difference in ride quality (but I've also got a fair amount of weight in the back that tends to soften a lot of the bumps). The RT Kendas are surprisingly quiet on the road, but definitely a little louder than stock. The biggest change came with the addition of the tires and the change in gas mileage. I probably lost 2-3 MPG with the addition of the bigger tires.

[@jcperez953]

​@@Lilchamps805 the skinny 33 are the 255/80r17?

[@Lilchamps805]

@@jcperez953 correct

[@Merkicko]

I wonder if you can fit a 35s on these truck like a Colorado

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

It’s possible with a Titan swap but it takes a decent amount of work/modification.

[@Merkicko]

@@AllThingsOverlanding oh thank you sir another question the titan swap is for the current Generation or before 2021 so I can have a reference for the shocks I really want to put Fox shocks or even a king shocks

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

@@Merkicko There are some titan swapped 3rd gens already. My understanding is that it's basically the same as the 2nd gen, with the exception of the tie rods which are a different length and different thread pattern, but All Dogs Offroad offers them for a pretty reasonable price: www.alldogsoffroad.com/ado-titanswap-tie-rod-extensions-for-third-gen-nissan-frontier

[@chrissanderson3648]

Might be a dumb question but 2in spacer give you any more clearance

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

I think you're thinking of spacers for a lift. I'm talking about a 1" wheel spacer which pushes the wheels out further from the hubs. That changes the angle at which the tires contact the fender liners and mud flaps. Without the spacers, I've heard that it doesn't contact.

[@chrissanderson3648]

@AllThingsOverlanding that makes sence lol what if you put 2in spacers for a lift does that actually give you any.more clearance?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

@@chrissanderson3648 it changes where the tires contact the fender liner, but not enough to prevent it from rubbing.

[@thedude828-ed2nn]

You do have the rc killa kit on there to right?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Yep.

[@eddiehaskell5578]

How many miles on your truck now?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Over 17k now

[@Aceinfinity-le8zc]

How did you update you speedometer ?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

I didn't. It's about 1ish MPH off so it's not a big enough deal that I worried about it.

[@michaelharris8228]

A couple layers of ductape might fix the problem where you're catching rocks! A cheap fix at least worth a try?!?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Not a terrible idea. I just power wash it out good when I get home from a trip and don’t worry about it much.

[@michaelharris8228]

@@AllThingsOverlanding keep up the good work, enjoying the content!

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

@@michaelharris8228 Appreciate it!

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

@@michaelharris8228 Thanks man!

[@theirthereandtheyre2947]

Has anyone gone with 285/75/16’s on steel wheels ?

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Probably. I’m sure it would be similar to my setup.

[@edward5979]

Exactly…

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Yep

[@jessea6503]

Yeah but the cheapest Chinese Kenda tires. Whats the point

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Technically, Kenda tires are produced in Taiwan and they have been since 1962. These are great tires for a fair price that people sleep on. There are a lot of no name brands that put no R&D into their tire designs, but Kenda isn't one of them. They've got a long offroad racing pedigree as well.

[@theirthereandtheyre2947]

⁠I ran Kenda tires on my Jeep. They were excellent. I think they were made in Vietnam though.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Give the people what they want, how to fit 40s

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Barely got 35’s on my old truck with a Titan swap and a 4” lift. 😂

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

@@AllThingsOverlanding 😆

[@WOODduck-u2e]

See that's the big difference on a Nissan compared to the new 2024 Tacoma don't have to do NO! Cutting on a 2024 Tacoma to fit big wheels and tires on it and your getting way more tuck with the all new 2024 Tacoma and way more horsepower and torque than the V6 junkssan

[@snowsolo]

Lol, pretty bold statements guy. Your 4 banger 4 cylinder prob wont make it to 75k miles before it starts to fade and wear and good luck with your transmission too as I seen those are mostly probmatic too, even the manuals are breaking. They look great, not gonna lie but all the cheap plastic and crappy quality control that is starting to pop up all over on the forums and KZbin, plus the top dollar asking price. Good luck.

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Haha, yeah, I’ll take my NA V6 to keep for the next 10 plus years with less worry about issues with an FI 4 cylinder. Also, if you’re paying $8-15k (or more) for a comparable new Tacoma then you better not have to cut anything or modify anything.

[@thedude828-ed2nn]

Hahaha what a joke enjoy your overpriced taco that will run for a 100k miles if your transmission and diff don't explode before that. I'll take a little trimming any day over that piece of junk.😂😂😂😂

[@mclarenf115]

Last good Toyota is 2023.. R. I. P. New CEO in Toyota. I'll stick with my 2005 4runner V8. I'll look into buying a Nissan before buying 4th Gen Taco.

[@omg.2tsx_alex593]

Yea no cutting required like on the Nissan, with the new Tacoma you just have to replace the transmission and deal with all of Toyotas recalls and awful turbo 4cyl