Almost Everybody is Immortal Rank Now

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[@drecools]

6k and 15k are both immortals. let that sink in

[@gamalmohamed6766]

The sink has been let in. I repeat, the sink is now in the building.

[@LeoReo88]

And you are stuck in the same rank from past 8 years, yet you still grind the same game even so hoping to rank up.....Let that sink in even deeper!

[@abaddonthelordofavernus.4353]

@@LeoReo88 this comment is relevant, how?

[@harrellt1405]

Mmr is also inflated. 9k before is like 14k now.

[@huniverso]

6k shouldn't be inmortal , add a new medal for that until 10k

[@asphorcata]

tbh i think the reason so many people are immortal because the mmr spread is very high. like 5k ish to 11k is considered immortal, compared to 1-900: herald, 900-1900 guardian etc (i forgot the number). valve could introduce new medals for people above divine to fix the immortal population issue, but yeah nothing could solve those account buyer problem lmaoo

[@GeeLS0]

nah it's account selling and boosting. I can speak from experience lmao

[@fatperuvian2980]

Yeah, nothing will fix the account selling problem but at least it will make the last rank of dota more important

[@theblackvenom1840]

@@fatperuvian2980 Getting rid of double down tokens, calibration activation system and being more strict with rank decay will significantly lower the amount of account buying and selling.

[@vo1ce147]

Or they can just do yearly rank reset

[@MadMix]

So many people are immo coz of acc buying. every game i play on 7k-8k mmr avrg has atleast 3-4 accbuyers in lobby. immo rn is a 2k mmr pub at best

[@buenvidanadz1969]

"If everyone is Immortal, then no one is" -- Syndrome

[@bookmoon7244]

It's not even immortal issue. Even lower ranks are full of smurfs and hired boosters who spam double down token. Legend rank is literally 2 smurfs vs 3 smurfs everygame in eu server

[@qunas101]

1:08 that's not even true. The highest rank Dota has to offer is Immortal Top 1, only one person has it. You give players finite ranks and they complain that there is nowhere to grow, you give them numbered ranks and they still complain...

[@adventurer7579]

People always complain before thinking

[@sludgepuppy]

I will add: if Immortal were like the other ranks in that you from from 1-5, the distribution would look a lot more even.

[@gridselix]

there are distribution actually. low Immortal, High Immortal, Numbered Immortals (not sure if this is the same as high immo) and the highest-- pro players

[@migs192]

*cries in Guardian*

[@jakubsmelka3458]

This is just utterly abysmal interpretation of the data on your part, the reason why the immortal column encompasses such a large proportion of the overall player base, as shown on the histogram at 1:07 is very simple, and its because of the disproportionally large range of mmr values that it contains, while the entire archon range (meaning columns 1-5) represent a range of mmr from 2310 - 3079 mmr points (as of october 2024) the singular depicted immortal column depicts mmr range beginning from roughly 5.5k to approximately 15k, so its completely natural that this wide range of mmr values will also contain a large number of players, if you were to edit the histogram and slice up the immortal column into numerous columns representing smaller ranges, than it would graphically approximately match normal distribution similarly to the rank distribution in csgo, obviously it isn't going to follow normal distribution perfectly, but it will be good enough.

[@soileH]

I remember times when immortals were considered actually people that were genuinely good at the game. These days they are comparable to divine rank creeps that just know how to farm. When I play against immortals these days I don't even feel their presence in the game. I have a few high ranked immortal friends and the amount of presence they have in any particular game is insane even not on their main roles or heroes.

[@bewareofmountainlions4429]

Ultimately I agree with you, but that makes sense because that was the main bit of advice always given to lower rank players back in the day. If you hit creeps faster than the opponent you will win more games. So that's what people learned. It's tangible. Easy to see when you have more or less CS, easy to practice, and low effort. Decision making, game sense, itemization, positioning, map awareness. Those are all much harder to learn so people don't want to practice or don't have the time to practice those things as much, and the benefits aren't as tangible. There isn't a number in the top left telling you good job look at the CS you have at 10 minutes. Patting you on the back 😂.

[@CatgirlExplise6039]

when are people gonna make the basic logical connection that rank in a game where the outcome is often decided by the choices of your teamates -7:00 before the game starts is not exactly a ideal identifier, and the only thing people will use it for is trying to make money.

[@adventurer7579]

​@@CatgirlExplise6039never

[@BGLoscar]

To fix this problem, we have to acknowledge the problem first. Good point on mentioning account buying and the lack of hard rank reset. You also have to consider that some or most pro players have an alt account. Some have 3-4 alt accounts that are just sitting in Immortal. I think Valve already did something with account buying, however they have not fixed account boosting. A friend of mine was able to hire someone from overseas. They played his account and it got to immortal. Those individuals are either very good at the game or they use some hacks so they would be paired against someone who are bad or intentionally throws the game (this exists in fact one fraud Dota2 youtuber got called out for this practice). These hired individuals don't rush the climb cause otherwise the account will be reported for climbing too fast. For pros having multiple accounts. I think Valve did something about this as well, however it got reverted so pros were able to play alt accounts again. This ties to account buying as well. These issues are difficult to fix without forcefully tapping into someone's IP. Hard reset would be great and the rank down should be regulated. For Divine ranks and below. You will only lose 4 stars. So, let's say if you are Divine 5, you will be brought down to Divine 1. Ancient 5 becomes Ancient 1. But if you are in immortal, you will lose the immortal title and start all over at Divine 1. There will be one side games or stomps, sure. But players will eventually adapt because the exposure with a pros, will elevate their next game.

[@i3looi2]

MMR inflation .. i've been calling it since spring.

[@dyaztama1364]

It was already happened during pre rank introduction. NA matchmaking was inflated so bad

[@YavorDanov]

its a thing since the past 3 years

[@aron666able]

Some of the problems about the immortal rank that I can think of are: 1) Smurfing, top 300 players in every region have around 3-4 acc that they grind to either practice (miracle with his 10+ accs) or sell de acc. 2) Wintrading, in order to inflate their main acc top players (especially in SA, China and SEA) convince other immortal players to sabotage games when they are queued up against each other (for example k1 hector the SA pos 1 pro player). 3) Recalibration is broken, I have seen Immortal players get archon and say F it, just open another acc till they can recalibrate again.

[@haryok8940]

Also win trade became really prominent because of double downs. There's just no drawbacks: one receive 2x MMR, other lose some as usual, and then they swap and repeat. And by that, you have one of the most efficient methods for boosting accs to sell them

[@bookmoon7244]

Double down is the worst thing that happened to this game. It's used for degenerate gambling behaviour or wintrade abuse. Lets give free tokens that make boosting low rank accounts twice as easier

[@33shin33]

right at the end of the video it's crystal clear why there are many people in the immortal rank, people are making a living out of selling accounts. What we need is semi-professional tournaments so these people can motivate themselves to make a living playing tournaments instead. At the end of the day the core of the problem is the matchmaking system which allows rank 3000 play games with rank 11.

[@Sarnith]

I mean, just make the top 1% of mmr immortal... dump the rest into the ranks below and expand their mmr brackets. Easy fix.

[@thepook6683]

Yeah, just make the current ranks proportions of the total current mmr range. The only downside is that the rank up/down point will be a little volatile and change quite a bit, which is fine by me. The big issue is that the ranks are just set in stone mmr ranges that don't adapt to the systems overall mmr growth.

[@mikel4172]

medal or number doesnt matter if matchmaking is mmr based, and inmortal games on high level with 1 or 2 acc buyers feel awful to play, its just matchfixing with DD tokens that made the problems more extreme

[@iruga7379]

To solve the problem with acc sellers steam just have to bind your account with the ID of your country. Done, no more bullshit, you just have one account and if you try to bypass your main gets banned.

[@skyLoon78]

Think in a bigger picture when you talk. Immortal play account for roughly 3. xx% of total player, average online player is about 20k, hence can say that only 500 immortal player online the simultaneously anytime in a day. So if you make change and allocate them 2000 mmr each spread, the most possibly situation is, 200, 100, 80, 80, 40, for each spread. So means you could play 10 game in a row with same group of players, if you are unlucky.

[@archmagemc3561]

About that immortal thing. My account had been inactive for about 5 years. I play dota again and I see they added a win/loss ratio thing right? Uh.... I played a lot, long, LONG before the win loss ratio was public and when valve made that system they counted BOT ONLY, BOT CO OP, AND PRIVATE GAMES towards that statistic. So now my co op bot games and ability draft/tower defense/boss battle games are counted towards my rank and thats so dumb. Best dumbest thing? leaving custom games and such counted as a WIN in that system. So playing the dota 2 diablo mod in custom games gave me like 100 or 200 wins on its own.

[@Fieryxjoe]

Dota just needs some more ranks. Like when you say the same amount of people are between 3,080 and 3,233MMR as there are between 5,600 and 16,000MMR it sounds pretty reasonable. The bigger issue is 3/4 MMR is encapsulated in 1 badge.

[@TheNeon-rh4kk]

Everyone is Immortal = More unsatisfied smurfs in lower rankings wanting to climb back up again.

[@piegumplays9059]

i also think the account sellers are a heavy problem in hight ranked too i seen like 2-4 accounts that were immortals just 3 weeks ago after falling all teh way down to acients

[@-m4gnix-288]

gaining rank nowadays is easier because of that damn double down token And yes people are fucking lucky If they double down 10 straight games won.

[@Detalx]

as a 6k player its kind of demoralizing to not have a new title to grind for.

[@adventurer7579]

Why is this such a big problem? There is still the mmr number to tell the difference

[@lutovac_nikola]

Age and a half ago, about 1.5% of all dota players were immortals.

[@nbvrufus9675]

Based on all the sources i can find Immortal Rank is between 1.3 and 1.9% of the players atm.

[@SeisoYabai]

2:45 Ankles OBLITERATED

[@SaijoRhen]

as an unranked frog i see this as a complete win

[@LonelyDayDreaming]

And in dota I get turbo players in immortal bracket it because the dd tokens getting 7k mmr at my time was something like world top 2300 nowadays you need to get 8.3k mmr to get numbers and to reach top 2.3k you it almost 9k if not 10k but thanks for the mmr bubble

[@ScreamoKoala]

probly should add another division after immortal like 7K or something IDK. I do like the idea of a soft reset to recalibrate after every 12-18 months or so. keep it fresh and give ppl a reason to come back to the game. ive heard from a lotta ppl that once they get immortal, they pretty much lose their motivation to keep playing, and they quit. There has to be a way to retain players

[@justakidwithnolife5671]

me too bruh I reached 7k and immediately quit and went cs2 and valorant xd

[@faessle4067]

We all know that herald 1 is where the real pros are. Everyone can become better but only the chosen ones can have double digit mmr

[@mikeriggs3891]

Dang, this video just made me feel worse for sitting at 1k-1500 mmr. Thanks bro.

[@luccavalentinw.fiorini2302]

Well since I'm 2K mmr I don't mind any of this anymore

[@tonythemadd]

I think season medals is a great idea, also they need to add more medals after 6k, a new one for every +1k. I started playing rankeda now and they put me in archon 2 and guess what? I'm on a 5 win streak winning 100 mmr per match since the game knows I dont deserve the medal I was put in. They need to review all this ranked system cause a 6k mmr is a immortal the same as a 15k mmr

[@Rulio19797]

ALMOST EVEYBODY IN IMMORTAL RANK IS BUYER NOW )

[@oORI2104]

When why you should play kez?

[@djpnda-ed1dh]

I remember being rank 2500 Europe but now I’m 8.3 and not even a number rank. Some pro player gonna hit 20k mmr before valve starts to care at all. Just buy double down tokens and an average level player can hit 10k. It’s actually sad to see valve ruin ranked matchmaking for some extra casg

[@andrewkielbasowycz1915]

not me baby, low priority herald 1 til death

[@wafiyudin4436]

God chosen people

[@avantar112]

but the medal doesnt matter in dota2 because its mmr based not medal bases like lol

[@heattorture4898]

so i wasn't delusional believing i get account buyers every other game i play. cuz 1 game i get people who pick good heroes, play lane well, communicate like normal people, don't steal farm and pay attention to the farming route of carry, tp to fights, are good at spell casting, and then in the very next game i ask my pos 5 to pull the small camp and he leaves lane and goes afk as the pos 5 Phantom Assassin...

[@Delimon007]

In other words, they need enough ranks to separate the players since Immortal has an even bigger MMR bracket than every other rank combined 😂

[@mal0379]

Generally kind of bad take. I have played a lot of both dota 2 and league and personally hate the league rank reset system. The dota mmr system is generally vastly better than the lp/hidden mmr system in league, for one. Secondly, I would be pissed if I was sent down to archon 2 every 3 months as an ancient 5 player and forced to climb back up, as it happens with league season resets. The major reason that they do it in league is to artificially force players to play more games in order to re-secure the rank that they had previously. Furthermore, just as it is easy to maintain your dota rank by simply not playing very much, if you are a multiple-season diamond player in league, it is obscenely easy to stay there. I have seen accounts from friends of friends with 32% ballpark winrates easily place back into diamond because the game just wants them to stay there. Like I genuinely can't understand advocating for ranked decay at any mmr besides maybe top 1000 immortal. Why would I want a game to try to compel or force me to play it more than I want to? To me the rank confidence system is a logical and decent solution. As it stands, clearly the number of immortal players has increased, but currently the percentage of players in immortal is still only 3% (up from 1.7% in april 2023). This is probably due to smurfing/mmr abuse like you said, but I don't think ranked seasons are the answer to that problem. If they did have mandatory resets, they should be maybe once per year.

[@A_burger1720]

I agree. I play Lol and dota. The hidden mmr in league is a joke where u win +19 and lose like -25.

[@azux.]

Turn brain on, immortal englobes from 5.5k mmr to 15k mmr, is like if you bundle everything from 0 mmr, 5.5k mmr and double it, and the other reason is dota doesnt have a high influx of new player, it's reoccurring players and players who never stopped, meaning that their normally better than a new player, and the final reason is that you can reach immortal with good theory/knowledge and a very okish mechanics, so when something clicks you skyrocket in ranks, be it split pushing, resource managment, position in the map and fights, pressure, forcing the hand of your opponents, laning phase, jungle, itemization, playing around strong timings and heroes, kicking your opponent when he's down. Any one of those you learn in depth will take you higher pretty fast, dota is extremely competitive and well balanced (at least the most balanced moba with this complexity), those who really like the game and want to play to the fullest and be good will literally study this game, i dont know when was the last time i saw a league player really dive that deep into theory besides some superficial, and those who just play for fun get stuck in the middle, that sounds about right for me, league has a very high mechanical ceiling (some theory also but not the focus), so its harder for someone to break through unless their very fast, precisely and with good reactions

[@Call_911.]

2 things that happens and I see it happening every day among my friend group #1: we are around 25 dota 2 players and I can confirm there's 17 immortal players Out of 25 The lowest rank is divine 3 You'd say holy shit are you OG academy or some shit No I can confidently say most of them suck so hard at this game Among the entire group there's 4 actually good player that are currently immortal 8k 9k players And like 5 decent dudes but not a pinch above ancient level And the rest complete garbage like actually I don't remember being that bad when I was learning the fking game But we can carry them since there's no difference between solo mmr and party mmr Just give them meta supports occasionally they might actually save you from a shit situation once every 5-6 games but in general since we play with them in low immortal lobbies basically the enemy team is 3k-4k mmr below on average so it's an easy win for them they get hella boosted And that's why you get almost an entire classroom worth of people all immortal "in rank not in skill" #2: which is actually more concerning is that people in my group that are 6k to 7k can queue up with divine players divine 4-5 players and low immortal Which shouldn't be allowed so what happens is the enemy team probably has same line up A 7k player Then couple low immortals And couple divines But the difference is The divines on our team are 9k smurfs Ends up also boosting the 7k guy higher and higher closing on 8k And let me be frank If it was up to me beside the 4 good people in the group No one gets above Legend rank like in actual skill Maybe ancient on their best days when the 2 heroes they can play are extremely broken Slow reflexes no awareness buys same items almost every game has no clue what 70% of the heroes actually do and how to counter sometimes feels like they don't have a minimap their calls and comms are shit but at the end of the day Immortal rank 6k 7k and some now closing in on 8k when they should not be near half as much mmr The system is broken the system can be easily abused The actual real dota starts at 9k almost 10k mmr Where you see almost no account buyers When someone plays bad it's more likely to be having a bad day than him being boosted And the only smurfs you'll encounter are actual pro players which is still a good thing in some regard Playing vs better players improves your gameplay

[@IntertwiningRoses]

How do I get out of the rank where people don't understand basic mechanics and literally make the worst decisions I've ever seen? Otherwise known as Crusader? Cause I've been bouncing between crusader 3-5 constantly, got to Archon once and then got forced back down because of bad game after bad game when it was just completely one-sided each time.

[@Mighty_Jared]

I've been a single win away from Legend before going on like a 6 loss streak literally half a dozen times now 😮‍💨

[@ayukuro1019]

I recently reached immortal, id say ive played around 100-200 games of ranked over my whole career of 5.5k hours played, I used to be ancient but ive been playing 5 stack unrankeds with my divine and immortal friends, and then I went solo for some ranked games and climbed there without any problem. I have never felt less achievment for getting a high rank in a video game ever, maybe when I got diamond in heroes of the storm when it was already dead. I dont know ye in my eyes it feels like every bozo is immortal together with the pros and ive played vs pros or ppl that have like 10-20k hours played and even though I am immortal as well I might have as well been herald, the rank just doesnt work as a representation of the skill of the player. Sometimes i play with ppl rank sub 1000 and that is just complete smth else.

[@ragelegends4866]

Bruh thumbnail scared meee

[@ARRIGATE]

If your objective is to prevent account buying, by seasonal resets, then it won't succeed. All you will do is create a market for another service, that provides recalibration.

[@ZonixMaster]

I will like to have a good match up: i left dota for a while because I'm in a loosing streak, i can't belive that one player can loose 20 games in a row and the sistem did nothing, I've kinda feel depressed for this and I've left the game, hoping to get back later

[@Raizer_VT1998]

so maybe add something between divine and immortal, try to fill the gap between 6k-7.5k mmr? honestly not a horrid idea, makes all those 6k boosters unviable to sell "immortal" accounts.

[@LongX49]

go become immortal. let us old man have fun in archon bracket

[@JetFiiire]

The ranks are good as they are, because you can't reach immortal unless you're really good at dota. Yes, immortals 6k mmr are not even close to the level of an immortal 10k mmr, it's true, BUT an immortal 6k mmr still knows Dota very well and plays it very well. He deserves his rank. Creating new ranks would do nothing for the matchmaking or the account buying problem, it would just change the name of your rank, from immortal to whatever the new rank between divine and immortal is named. Or maybe give a new rank to the very best players, like from 9k mmr you're something else than immortal, just like in chess where there are "super GM" (even tho it's not an official rank). Also account buying and boosting exists in any and every game, I've seen boosted players in Diam/Master/Challenger on League much more than I've seen boosted players in Dota Divine/Immortal ranks.

[@steffkepn2]

Naaah, why would we reset a system where number 1 rank player have 15000 mmr and immortal starts from 5700 mmr, nah don't hurt professional players feelings, surely there is difference between 12K mmr and 15K mmr - my a** difference, they are totally the same. In high immortal ranks doesn't even matter anymore, system sucks, rank 200 can beat rank 50, it would be very interesting to watch a race for mmr every year like it was race for 9k mmr. These super high mmr are just nonsensical. Bring that back + add 1 more rank after Divine. And bring back MMR shaming, numbers are interesting, not ranks. But first - HARD RESET.

[@user-nb5nj6xs6y]

Just add seasonal ranking, each season reset you get bonus mmr for win streak until X losses and problem solved

[@fedeph665]

As a 6400 mmr immortal solo support player i can say that i stopped playing dota like 2 months ago to take a rest from the game. There's so much brain dead people on immortal rank, lol.

[@allblackheartz]

Also. Remove immortal draft party queue Because that shit ruins game when 1 people does not get to team up with his friend.

[@kacperzabczyk4559]

There’s nothing harder than getting out of crusader

[@Kalabanano]

Its hard if you belong there

[@firmannurcahyo]

478 Match with 289 Win and I only Archon 3, it's that good? Bcs I see many of my Team like Archon/Legend player alr 10k match with 1,5-3k match win

[@yasha886]

Very good video my leige

[@nobunaga24]

I m a dota player since 2014. Im unranked. I just dont care about rank. Compatitive multiplayer games stresses me. Cant play ranked at all.

[@cobalt4263]

Herald 1 is the peak matchmaking all alonh

[@tutov1k]

i have been an immortal for 8 months now. i`ve hit it at 5620, and now i`m 7200, and there is no change, no visual approval to my grind. thats geniunely disappointing and i lose interest to the game at this point honestly. make the seasonal recalibration a thing pls volvo...

[@lexavaritia7596]

remove ranking 4Head honestly this problem didnt exist back when i use to play at 2013-2014

[@dinocukusic2585]

Recalibration is also really bad in dota, for eg. I once activated it and won like 75% games of games played and I recalibrated to archon 1 and before that I was archon 3, later I climbed to Archon 5 and activated Rrcalibration again and I won approx. 60% of games and again climbed down do crusader 5... Like what the actual fuck. Never doing in again

[@flynndota1179]

i have been bouncing between archon and ancient for a year now. I know its for a fact that im losing only because of my allies are bad...how can i buy immortal account without getting scammed? reddit or steam forums dont allow this kind of post. im suppose to immortal rank but this account is flagged for double down token uses and now valve giving me shitty allies so i keep spamming tokens

[@Veneva.]

skill issue

[@flynndota1179]

@@Veneva. yes thats what im saying , my allies skill is too low and its the issue , do u know how to buy immortal account?

[@769_tYu]

Not just account buyers, but the smurf as well. If you smurf at unranked to play with friends, I get that. But there's literally people out there streaming publicly smurfing at freaking archon bracket while they are immortal. And guess what? No matter how much you report, no consequences happened. Nice right?

[@ReyXer01]

I think mmr needs to be reset back to when 7k was high rank mmr. Im 8k and players seem to be clueless sometimes, and if u add that is NA rank even worst xd

[@Crociato]

new vid yippi

[@HCXWinchester]

Need to reset rank AND remove double down tokens from game to stop win trading.

[@WeamerR]

Highest rank = 1 Don't care about others 🎉

[@BoneHeadPlaysGames]

This is a result of account frarming. Most of those high ranked players are alt accounts gatekeeping and selling high rank positions. They usually use matchmaking abuse and cheats to achieve this. In fact, many pro players entered the esports scene through this underground account black market.

[@diw163]

what do you mean by that?

[@yungsparkles7355]

The new account calibration + glicko recalibration is really screwing dota2 up. You can easily get a new account to 7k mmr and sell it and ruin ranked games around the 7k-10k bracket. That bracket is absolutely unplayable. They have to do something about it but knowing valve, they will probably just release some new skins to fund Gabens yacht collection.

[@secretshopgg]

that end hahahaha

[@Green13Gaming]

I don’t understand account buying, if you play with the ranks above your and constantly lose because you are bad where is the gun in that, Im an uncalibrated untangled enjoyer and the game is much more fun if you play at your own level, it feels competitive and not one sided one way or another

[@outhenin]

League rank : players complain because if you want hight mmr, u just need to play a lot of game, ranking means nothing for a lot of players. CS go rank : players just cant even try since the game is full of cheater, nobody take the ranking system seriously. Apex legends : players complain that the ranking systeme is broken. they reset everytime. every top player is crying about that. dota 2 : yeah the systeme is also bad, at least they dont reset your rank every 6 week to wast your fucking time. ( like apex ) every ranking systeme is bad. they all got big problemes, i think the only game who is working is valorant and im not sure .... if you want to fix it. its realy simple. U install vanguard on every pc, and you force players to leak their real identity to their accompte with iD. but both of these solution cost money

[@alifhafizbinjasni5644]

True, all competitive games got their own problems

[@grumpyplays5886]

I swear this guy literally made a career out of shit talking dota 2 😂

[@chinapatwangariya4605]

Quality of the match doesnt affect the highest immortal player rank 1000+ but below and no rank immortal are shit show

[@sicko7761]

Add up immortals with 2nd/alt smurf accounts thats also immo rank

[@narutofromdbz]

Where kez video

[@Alex-vv8co]

I am uncalibrated 😂

[@dj_vanx]

just 300 double down wins in a row and you can have 15k mmr too

[@obaydaak6726]

It's just preposterous that supposedly a 6k player is worse to a 14k player than a herald to a 6k player! meanwhile both the 6k and 14k players are the same rank (immortals) xD I get that there are numbers but still the gap is huge! I watched gorp lose his shit many times because of 7k - 8k players in his team. they feel like heralds with the top 200 - 300 players

[@NukeBlast321_]

why does speeed from gameleap look like daniel larson

[@abikarizma3826]

I played Dota after a while n I asked my friend last week" is Dota community become dumber/noober?" 😅 Cuz Divine rank feels like archon or less

[@anger8323]

And the top ranks became so ridiculously overtuned. In no other games truly high rank starts at 11000 mmr above the average player. Just a big clown show dota is

[@amiresmaili4528]

5600 to 15k mmr is still immortal tho u have triple emount of mmr then them I think immortal should be in 10k mmr so only the best could be immortal and other ranks should have more stars to adress those difranciate mmr numbers like divine 8 tell me if u like this method

[@lazylonewolf]

Wow, I'm an unranked immortal player lol

[@renzojuarez6512]

the loud musict at te end. wtf dude in chill.

[@streetguru9350]

I'm still ancient after 13 years ;_; So close to divine so many times. All they have to do is shrink the MMR to group people more closely, or cap your match making MMR to 8K or 10K or whatever if they haven't already. I think they should create a new match making option called Wild Card MMR, where a 4K player is mixed in with 6Ks, and 1 8K players.

[@Darkinse]

You new or smth? Took me 1600 ranked games to get divine :D Euwest Is really difficult alright.

[@streetguru9350]

@Darkinse I have been playing since Clockwerk was a new hero in Dota 1. Have been borderline 5K forever. I can probably spam QoP, Necro, and DP mid to hit divine, but Kez being broken is a bit of an issue.

[@Darkinse]

@@streetguru9350 Yeah Spam meta and play effective everygame=divine, you got this it's easy when you get into the flow! Good luck.

[@youtubeeee6682]

remove dds and rank reset as mr gorek said

[@RohitRoy-ji9kv]

You are alive?

[@JonTan-z3e]

yeah but how many people are between 5k and 11k mmr?it could just be the immortal rank has the least amount of players but the players within are more finely distinguished by their mmr. u got 20 percent chunk of deadbeats at herald 20 percent of the playerbase at guardian and another 15 percent at archon and 15 percent at legend and 10 percent at ancient and 10 percent at divine... it looks like everyone is at immortal but u dont even know how many there actually are it not like u can see 2000 people in a single server at once like an mmo.....u just see 9 random people every game.... but in reality only 5 percent of the player pool is at immortal. of course the tragedy is a weak immortal player has only 6k mmr, and a strong immortal has 9k mmr and strong immortal crushes weak immortal.....but there are so few players at the very top so u have to group the 5k immortals along with the 9k immortals otherwise u will never get a match going. the gulf between players should be enormous as u reach the end or stratosphere of the curve, the top 0.01% of the players is like 100 times stronger than the top 1% its like oh u might be considered decent at the national level in swimming, but michael phelps is a 32 times olympic medal winner u know? lemme put it this way take the best 1000nl and above poker players online in the world.....now these guys are already considered godlike versus the bottom 80 percent of the player base.. but when u put these players against the true poker gods, phil ivey in the 2000s and early 2010s, jungleman, patrick antonius, all of a sudden they seem like school children

[@thishandle_isalreadytaken.]

Report button of acc buyer would be a start, maybe not so much as effective but it sure would help my mental state if I could report 😂

[@peteneizosolo23]

I thought u died

[@tlanhluachuteh174]

Bruh

[@dudeidk4037]

1 problem huge once you reach immortal rank is the wintrading problem once you reach immortal your friend can queue into you and throw the game while you double down, after that you throw the game for him and he doubles this ends with both players having + 25 mmr and is the biggest issue serounding high mmr dota right now all it would take to stop this is simply abbandon the double down tokkens and reset the mmr once for everyone but they are to bussy with smth else apperently

[@alymikky97]

Immortal is just for decoration it means nothing dota2 is about mmr not with medals

[@platypusimagination]

i'm legend for 10 years 🥹

[@Darkinse]

You new or smth? Took me 1600 ranked games to get divine :D Euwest Is really difficult alright.

[@Sterkson92]

Just make more medals after immortal and pay 1 indian guy so he would check reports on bot/past bot now bought accounts

[@daplinko3433]

could they not just wipe everyone's ranks back too 0 then also delete the double down tokens at same time and just go from there yeah the same problems with account buying would still exist but all their existing stock would be worthless and any future stock will be harder to make then as a added measure never put those damn double down tokens back in the game they were always a stupid idea for how many they just giveaway like i mostly play turbo but just through all events and stuff i have like 100-200 tokens still in my account

[@Wagga.b]

League has the same problem tbh

[@adaeterno]

nah its just rus kids link new accounts to an already immortal account so they get there after calibration