What if American Slavery Never Existed?

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

I came back from the dead to be killed by both liberals and conservatives in the inevitable firestorm of comments.

[@nothingmatters298]

big wieners

[@trainman8335]

yoU do not agree with me POLITICALLY REEEEEEEEEE GET THE TORCHES

[@siddhantsharma7728]

Please Reply, PS You are awesome

[@kraiser2487]

AlternateHistoryHub What if America never intervened in the Soviet-Afghan war?

[@CasualFox12495]

Wow... Sorry bout the bad timing....

[@tylerkmoore159]

"British, Irish, Germans, Pols, Russians, you name it" *Off in the bottom left* "Californians" I see what you did there.

[@Enyavar1]

Yeah, it's funny, right? I would imagine those means "Spanish", because seriously, the Spanish-Mexicans DID own California before the huge US influx.

[@tylerkmoore159]

@@Enyavar1 not what I was getting at.

[@spartangames836]

@@tylerkmoore159 as in they are a whole new race of people?

[@tylerkmoore159]

@@spartangames836 No, something not pertaining to race. Instead think... I dunno, politics? Yeah, that.

[@jesuschrist6800]

@@spartangames836 don't worry.. I don't get it either.

[@devon0305]

Imagine using slaves to mass produce sugar. Like, just get a crafting table bruh

[@TPillar]

Sugar don't exist, they are just soft drug

[@comradekarlvonschnitzelste8218]

PłáyBøy *_cocaine_* Oh *no*

[@looinrims]

Bruh how come these Europeans don’t just set up a piston farm

[@devon0305]

The Looinrims fr doe

[@ethanneuner1574]

To soon

[@yvonne5735]

I'm Nigerian and I've often wondered about this lol. Great video I hope this doesn't get too much hate. Really shows the selfishness of humans regardless of colour

[@j-core2895]

i'm nigerian too lol

[@KOxxl]

I'm Nigerian also. What state?

[@j-core2895]

@@KOxxl imo but i live in lagos

[@KOxxl]

@@j-core2895 I'm from Edo but I live in the States.

[@OldRell]

@@greatestindanationwide8332 lol your the guy who has a Maximilian profile pic loser 😂

[@tolic14ever]

A moment of silence for the human still scrolling to find those mean/triggered comments. We've been there bro..

[@Ritercrazy]

Thanks. I needed that.

[@CatholicWeeb]

Where are they?

[@namelessLesbian]

Use newest to find them

[@andrewboyacigiller8985]

@@namelessLesbian Oh God you were right.

[@lennypayne4241]

I found a few offensive jokes and a short-lived flame war somewhere down there. Keep looking.

[@dong7474]

Cody: “don’t hate me in the comments for picking this topic” The comments: “why didn’t they just get sugar at the store? Jeez people are dumb”

[@magicman5687]

The mind of the people is great to listen to and find out their thoughts. But honestly, they should have gone to Walmart

[@00.kevinz]

If this were twitter u would have gotten ratioed

[@thechrisman1345]

@@00.kevinz "ratioed" .... I hate this new version of the internet

[@intergalacticspaghetti5213]

@@thechrisman1345 tf is a ratio

[@narutouchia2863]

@@intergalacticspaghetti5213 it’s a mathematical term

[@jcsports731]

in an alternate universe, cody is talking about if slavery existed.

[@QuantumPsychonautics]

However, a change that great in the timeline (as Cody pointed out) would almost certainly mean that someone else, not Cody would be talking about if African slavery in the New World had happened. Too many changes over too many centuries would change too many lives for Cody or even his great great grandparents to have been born.

[@brianjohnson1932]

In another universe, no form of slavery existed at all, so there is no word for it.

[@joespence5273]

How would someone know about slavery of it didn't exist?

[@locka23boys]

alternate universe x50

[@theseus0467]

@@brianjohnson1932 sex slaves just i know that that will still be a issue

[@esayasasefa5551]

I disagree, I think that the industrial revolution would’ve came earlier. The reason why I think that is because labor would have been more expensive without slavery therefore prompting cheaper ways to produce. And there is nothing like profits and desperation as a motive to seek innovations

[@TRUEROOTS2022]

Interesting.

[@TRUEROOTS2022]

@Kyl Glantz agreed. Not to mention the lack of national cohesion and establishment of political and capitalistic boundaries brought on by the trade.

[@gamervox1707]

@@TRUEROOTS2022 capitalisms were already forming before black slavery But it is possible that capitalisms does not form in the new world but unionism or syndicalism which would be more effective then capitalisms and less wasteful..

[@marcosfonseca8195]

Yea like the roman empire our something

[@shutup4423]

without slavery the global giants at the time would not have been able to make as much money as they did, therefore they would not be able to invest in any inventions and, those inventors would've gone bankrupt. which means we would be living in a alien world. (great argument though :D )

[@grimstone_null]

Admit it you were scrolling through the comments to see people triggered

[@bigbean1133]

Grimstone 1 tup

[@LukeDukeShoot]

yeah

[@bobdamano9606]

Busted

[@swedish_gamer2164]

Jup

[@averywow]

ye

[@aname9290]

I don't understand why they didn't just go to Walmart to get their sugar. History is strange

[@randomaccount7975]

I-

[@crimsontheworld772]

Ikr

[@funnycat4241]

Walmart did not exist back then 😒

[@snanoopis6584]

@@funnycat4241it’s a joke you poopy head

[@echidnanatsuki882]

@@funnycat4241 woooosh

[@yeshmaam14]

Sad that the intro is still relevant 2 years later

[@roborabbit7445]

Bruh I didn’t look at when this was made and thought it was made recently

[@kamitsu2352]

yeah..

[@CEOofPhoneCo]

Now thats a big'ol oof

[@MrMagoo-hf8yk]

yeah...cos 2yrs shoulda fixed a problem thats THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!..but yeah..sad

[@yeshmaam14]

Mr Magoo sorry if I said anything to offend you. I simply was saying that this video is dated and the intro is still relevant.

[@GachaRacing18]

This video was actually under one my history teacher assigned me. In class he also explained how important slavery was. It's crazy to believe but holy cow remove one card and the entirety of history changes, it's so fascinating

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

I'm surprised you're not outraged at your teacher

[@GachaRacing18]

@@nevaehhamilton3493 why would I be outraged? He basically taught us the same thing Alternate History did. Slavery wasn't a good thing at all, however if you took slavery out of the early world it would have crashed.

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@GachaRacing18 - Well, rather than "crashed" the development time would probably just be longer. History would go differently, not necessarily worse.

[@lizzygrant5546]

@@mokarokas-1727it would go worse

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@lizzygrant5546 - You forgot to add "I think" at the start of that sentence.

[@racionador]

you dont need slavery to have slavery. here on Brazil even with slavery banned you can still find people working on slave like conditions.

[@mattsamoto4451]

Shit! we are working everyday for slave wages, they just call it "gainful employment" instead of slavery. use up till our back gives out and tossed out like a used tissue.

[@wellyngtonfernandes9892]

no.

[@mariabobia69]

matthew benard thats capitalism for ya

[@wellyngtonfernandes9892]

@@mariabobia69 comunism*

[@mariabobia69]

Wellyngton Fernandes america isnt a communist country

[@mrhaatajaful]

You didn't get into music being completely different. No slave songs, means no spirituals, blues, ragtime, jazz, rock, rap, etc. The banjo wouldn't have even been invented so bluegrass/country would have not been the same.

[@RapOperaCentral]

Underated comment. Most of my channel's content is the result of the impact of slavery.

[@user-yh9vd9yz9u]

beetovan was black

[@ctruth6185]

That music would still have been invented---only in Africa.

[@RapOperaCentral]

That's highly unlikely considering that jazz, Hip Hop and rap, and Afro-Caribbean musical styles were a direct response to slavery. These musical forms were an expression of freedom, which unlikely would have been created without the catalyst of slavery. To your point, I would argue that there would have been alternative forms of music that would have developed, but they would lack the cultural responsiveness and edginess of Black music today. Listen to Lupe Fiasco's "All Black Everything" if you haven't already. I like the alternate timeline where slavery never happened, and the Beastie Boys Eminem invented rap and then inspired Tupac Shakur. Thanks for sharing your perspective!

[@patriciawilliams5286]

We could have made the music in Africa, everyone gets the blues sometime. I've been to Africa, they are very spiritual. The music goes with us, like our style, the way we walk, the way we wear our hair. It's who we are, what we are made of, it's in our soul. It's not the place we live, it's the people we are. My family has been here since 1670's and your saying that the U.S. needed slave to produce good music, is an insult!

[@goldenspongecake]

If slavery didn't exist then this video wouldn't have been made

[@JamesKeithProduction]

Altaccounts 4lyfe that's true of all of his videos

[@melonboi927]

Altaccounts 4lyfe 4d chest at it's finest

[@milserpentine]

Well....you're not wrong

[@trampygamer9336]

Altaccounts 4lyfe This video would have instead been called "what if American slavery existed"

[@goldenspongecake]

Trampy Gamer Yup, but would it be called something else? Like, "What if capturing Minorities existed?" Although, if the video was what I called it would probably get a lot of backlash because the minority would be offended by the idea of working at a command, being unable to quit, and working for free, since it would be a rather rare or new idea.

[@dswan01]

I believe without slavery in the timeline you mentioned it would have potentially started the industrial revolution earlier as the under population to farm the crops would potentially force Europe to mechanize earlier

[@tealablu3759]

That’s an excellent point, actually. Less workers could force people to invent ways around slow production. But I think that they’d need to suddenly lose a decent portion of the workforce, increasing the need for workers or something that could replace them Maybe once the native people died off enough in the Caribbean, then people would’ve innovated ways to keep production up

[@JabramAllen]

No it would have started later, the industrial revolution required resources.

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@JabramAllen so if slavery did not exist does that mean all ethnicities would hate each other. In other words even worse than today?

[@SandfordSmythe]

. The overt belief in a feudal system vs capitalist was fed by the availability of slaves. Without this free labor the South would have more open to the idea of making "dirty, common money"

[@bradleydelay]

Another thing I think is discounted is that the industrial revolution has a decent chance to actually spread into Africa. Europe and Africa in this alternative industrialization period would likely have similar politics, populations, and by some extent, resources. The only thing that would facilitate such a spread would be either reverse engineering of industrial tech by west Africans, or the Ottoman Caliphate also industrializing in turn, both of which have some credence in otl. For example, the Ashanti Empire were notoriously difficult to conquer for the British because they had large supplies of dutch weapons and ammo, and were evenly matched with English troops. The British only were able to conquer their lands once the repeating rifle was invented.

[@unimornnbr1]

West Indies: Exists Europe: Its free real estate

[@aid3782]

Europe: *Hold my beer*

[@OrigoZ]

@@aid3782 Me and the boys going to the west indies

[@alphoford7709]

@@creapyalbinofish So if i come to your home with more firepower then you. Its free real estate

[@CatholicWeeb]

@@alphoford7709 Yep!

[@alphoford7709]

You going to call the police. We both know i would be wrong and my actions criminal.

[@HappiestSadGuy]

What if Red Bull really gave you wings?

[@onyxtay7246]

Glad somebody's asking the important questions in life. I'll wager there'd be some really cool car chases. Imagine a bank robber leaping out of the getaway car, chugging a red bull, and flying away with a bag full of cash, but the cop leaps out too, so now they're both flying through the sky, but everyone would be flying and... well I don't know, but it'd be awesome.

[@TheKelmap]

Red Bull would never be sold to the public and would be mass produced and sold to a selected nation; Perhaps NATO, Heavy limitations for civilian use alongside foreign espionage of the RB Company to the point where every large scale military nation has access.

[@samiamtheman7379]

HappiestSadGuy What if the Red bull catchphrase made sense?

[@memoofjacoboarbenzjuanarev9724]

It be more valuable then Fuel.

[@changvasejarik62]

We'd have to pay a bundle for new shirts or painkillers.

[@AEvans36963]

As an AA, I have at times wondered about this idea myself. Slavery was never solely about racism. It was about MONEY, whether for the Europeans, the colonists, or the African traders. Forced free labor was needed to facilitate the whims of people with no work ethic. How long those people thought that system would last is a question for the ages. Well we know at least one white person actually considered the alternative. Interesting. Thanks for thinking.

[@ImehSmith]

👍🏽👍🏽 How long those people thought that system would last is a question for the ages

[@hanjoshitmata5602]

@King Of the krispy because Africans were an easy target; you had kings who were eager to sell them off, while no European king would have sold his own people into slavery

[@feelsweirdman_1823]

@King Of the krispy you just answered your own question, white slaves were used...

[@smackwiththetea5237]

@@hanjoshitmata5602 they weren't there people in there eyes there a weaker tribe. When theres no way such a skin or religion to set yourself apart you will eventually find something to fight about.

[@hainleysimpson1507]

Hanjo Africans never sold their own unless it was a rival, rebel or war prisoner. They sold external rivals enemies and with European support waged wars to enslave weaker smaller tribes nation states and kingdoms.

[@arstar5435]

Rapper Lupe Fiasco actually took this concept to a whole other level and made a concept album where instead of the slaves being shipped to America in the slave trade, their ships crashed and became these protectors of the sea called the Long Chains

[@dygituljunky]

For a topic full of landmines, I think you did very well. You certainly covered the evil side of history better than our schools ever did.

[@razortheonethelight7303]

There is two types in the school "US is terrible and should be hated for using slaves" or "It was a different time back then."

[@JabramAllen]

if you don't focus on the brutalities of it you missed the point

[@bbrathizza2075]

@@razortheonethelight7303 no I think there is a middle ground. That literarlly every country on earth has issues and has had them. But in reality the United States is the greatest. There isn’t a country better for black people, woman, and people in general on earth.

[@Johan590]

@@bbrathizza2075 hope you're joking

[@bbrathizza2075]

@@Johan590 nope not joking

[@Jenaxu]

Lol, I had to check when this was made when I saw the intro

[@captainbeastwinger4940]

Same

[@DiabeticGremlin07]

same

[@jimmyalfano7820]

Jalani Odle what happened

[@obiwankenobi4863]

Jimmy Alfano the sad death of George Floyd. you live under a rock mate?

[@jimmyalfano7820]

No when this video came out, I know what happened this year

[@Quarksi]

Wonder on the state of race relations in 2018? *scrolls through this comment section*

[@ChaoticBattleCamel]

Danie F No joke the comments on this video are a bloodbath.

[@benm5913]

*Any comment section.

[@douglasc1388]

Danie F I'm not even gonna do it. 2018 invented the troll which triggers racism even more

[@lordblazer]

Yea, the Far Right wing of America has taken over the internet forums, boards and comment sections. So they're gonna say the most vile racist shit you'll ever hear. They'll use to to say "you deserve to be treated like shit you n-word" and you can never convince them otherwise.. They're the fucking zerg man.

[@vrusher6254]

Danie F things would be very different. Alot of inventions and records would've never been invented. Alot of companies wouldn't exist. Obama would've never become president. It's a serious butterfly effect.

[@NovikNikolovic]

"there would be no institutional racism" Literally forgot how the Natives would still go through being forced out of their homes and stuff.

[@TeikonGom]

Based.

[@juannaym8488]

and how basically every group of immigrants past the original english settlers were discriminated against If America was settled by people that were less against everything that isn't us, then there would probably not have been any institutional racism

[@newguy8288]

A little late, but the video itself is mainly focusing on the African slave trade, rather than the relations between the Europeans and the natives. He did state that the natives would basically go through a similar process of dying out in the Caribbean

[@tias.6675]

Those who created this country and those who were here when it was created aren't immigrants. Black and White Americans are not like everyone else.

[@ProjektTaku]

If Natives are used for slave labor instead there would be incentive to keep them alive and increase their population, and the North-South war would lead to them being freed and overall a much bigger part of post-colonization America and its culture.

[@polarispulsar]

As my teacher describes sugar "The crack cocaine of the historical world"

[@SLBfan4evar]

Woooooow that is so fucking true dude. Holy shit!

[@redbear2113]

Opioids still existed but weren't as refined at the time, but studies have shown sugar has similar effects in the brain to cocaine and in some studies with rats it's proven to be more additive than cocaine. You can even go through sugar withdrawal which can lead to mental imbalances such as severe depression. The term "sugar high" isn't to far off and a "sugar crash" is much like coming down from a "drug".

[@ImehSmith]

👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@ImehSmith]

@@redbear2113 Exactly

[@coconut3390]

most of this comment section is just people commenting on how people are commenting about how there are no triggered comments.... shit Im just part of the loop now

[@xanthousfishjeretuna9778]

Not found a single triggered comment but I've found plenty saying there are lots of triggered comments. Ironic

[@jsm530]

most have been deleted i presume.

[@ultimateanthony1883]

Maybe lucky

[@likira111]

KZbin in a nutshell.

[@ultrafire5330]

Maybe its because leftists dont watch videos that teach you things...

[@likira111]

@@ultrafire5330 I mean if you consider this a "video that teach you things" I first disprove your comment and I wouldn't be suprised if xanthous fish jeretuna was a leftist as well given their comment. Are you xanthous?

[@littlepuertoricanboy4320]

Honestly, thank you. I was doing a project and this was one of the topics I was tackling, but I couldn’t find good enough resources to be able to truly explain. So thank you very much good friend!

[@seanmcdonald5859]

"When i mention slavery, its the American slavery that you think of, isnt it" Britain :"Please dont mention historical context . . . . . . .dammit!!"

[@emirhajdarevic5116]

I imagine Rome and Ancient Egypt.

[@sto4713]

Man America's original sin was so detrimental. Look at all the rioting and hate displayed in 2020 hundreds of years after it started.

[@blkmerican-.2934]

@@sto4713 America still has plenty sins and there are many people alive who have experienced it..🤔

[@westay4924]

ffs im off to drink a cuppa now LOL but tbf slavery was a thing caused more by the romans but Britain should've put an end to it sooner.

[@laptv2144]

St Ozz But it’s not uniquely American. The sin of slavery was a world issue that lasted on large scale for millennia’s all over the world.

[@harrisondula1656]

U know I’m black and uhh I actually really love to talk about these kinds of hypotheticals the what if’s of slavery is interesting and I also like to point out that literally every race on our great green earth has been enslaved in some form or fashion

[@LittleSparklingStars]

Yes, even today alot of people are enslaved, but blind to the eye of the government. East Europeans white women for example, are trafficked into slavery in the west. All under our very noses.

[@TheJerseyKidVA]

Harrison Dula very true

[@mazzb305]

You’re not black nice try though 😂

[@Kai555100]

mazzb305 how do u know?

[@mazzb305]

Crazy Child Call it a hunch. He's a troll

[@calamusgladiofortior2814]

It's possible the Europeans would have recruited Indian and Chinese labourers to work the plantations, as happened after the end of slavery. Perhaps the cultures of Brazil and the Caribbean would have strong Southeast Asian influences instead of African ones. New Orleans might be known for its bhangra music scene, instead of jazz.

[@leiahdavis1908]

If you look at the Caribbean we actually have a strong Asian influence. Many persons are of East Indian descent--especially in Trinidad and Guyana. Popular dishes like Curry Chicken, Curry Goat, roti and callaloo are heavily drawn from Asia. Also, the use of ganja/marijuana for spiritual and medicinal purposes amongst a host of many other things. :)

[@calamusgladiofortior2814]

Very cool. I always wondered where the curry dishes in Caribbean cuisine originated from.

[@pseudofox]

If we're talking music? It should be stated that a lot of what we think of as African-American music (jazz, rnb, rock and roll, etc) took heavy influences from different European-American music styles as well as that of some indigenous American groups sometimes, and it might be that such styles would've developed anyways but with varying kinds of 'ethnic' slants. Maybe Ritchie Valens esque Latino rock (which does share a ton with classic Chuck Berry style rock n roll) would've been one of the defining cultural trends of the 50s and 60s, say, instead.

[@westafricandiamonds4387]

Arthur Williams Hmm.

[@shanghaijeff]

China was fairly strong in the 15th-16th century, so instead of taking labor from there, I reckon that China would have had to modernize to meet the challenge from the West in Southeast Asia. This could have led to China dominating much of this region.

[@josephordower7398]

Cody, your argument was very well thought out, and we'll presented. I applaud your willingness to stick your neck out on such a divisive topic in this time of history.

[@JabramAllen]

Wrong, once again he's whitewashing history, and making whites superior. It shows that he doesn't show much about history

[@snanoopis6584]

@@JabramAllen how is he making whites look superior

[@zzrockszzrocks1492]

People are so scared of people getting "triggered" we can't even discuss a major part of our history I don't get what's so controversial about it.

[@davidhollenshead4892]

Some are triggered but many of us are more than able to discuss the issue... Here is an easier question, what if the Union had arrested the Slavers, and charged them for their beatings, rapes, etc. ??? The penalty for their crimes in the South was death, so what if the Union had done the right thing, and tried, convicted, and executed all the Americans who were involved in the horrible practice of slavery ???

[@ButterGamesRoblox]

The reason its "controversial" is because there will always be some of those people who'd just any excuse to act the victim, I'm not saying that the fact your race was exploited in the past is good (slavery, racism and prejudice and such disgust me) but the fact that you're using that as an excuse to do something today is just plain stupid, it's all in the past, its history not society today so don't think its a valid excuse Sorry for the slight rant there Edit: if you're going to reply to this, at least bother reading my other comments In short, I'm not downplaying the acts against a race nor saying that there aren't still existing issues as of it, I am merely just stating we should be able to freely discuss history of controversial topics. I'm not trying to be racist or downplaying acts of racism. I'm not claiming or in a position to judge if you guys are being treated equally to this day or not

[@synthwavedreamin2268]

shutup

[@joeschranz4525]

David Hollenshead it was mainly the rich folks who had slaves the people who fought for the south mostly didn’t own slaves

[@Israelite-iq1gd]

@@davidhollenshead4892 That'd been nice.

[@sboneloxaba566]

The fact that Europeans still own African art and get a lot of money, European and America still own most Mines if not all in Africa. China as well is currently starting a second colonisation and African leaders are giving China Africa on a silver platter. Pray for Africa

[@grstout]

Maybe we should resettle our African-amercians there equipped with education to help Africa stand on her own feet for once.

[@Uwill49]

@@grstout Africa wants nothing to do with "African" Americans.

[@jamiejames416]

Why would we need African-Americans?

[@sboneloxaba566]

@@jamiejames416 well everything cool about the US is from African Americans brooo. So u need them

[@sboneloxaba566]

@@grstout thats not what Africa needs... a lot of Africans are inspired man really educated and wanna make their parents proud, many are becoming Doctors, Scientists, Lawyers, etc many go to acting and the industry whereas the uneducated try so hard to join politics thats the issue Africa doesn't need African Americans honestly... its a shame they don't knoe their roots or languages that gives u an advantage. But Africa needs educated politicians that is new leaders who aint gonna be busy making money for themselves.

[@wannabeasubscriber528]

What if the ocean was replaced with Dr pepper?

[@jerrytheracecardriver1100]

then it would be highly acidic and life as we know it would not exist.

[@nickpearce8999]

what ru gonna cry? u gonna cry now? Replaced not always Dr Pepper as in it transformed now what would happen to earth if it here and now was replaced

[@mintcat5709]

Matthew Loader something like those rats that disintegrate in coca cola

[@wannabeasubscriber528]

+James Reilly no the world would approve upon itself and life would adapt to a Dr pepper ocean

[@evanohlsten7814]

yes but it would be delicious

[@thumpyloudfoot864]

There would be no Blues music, just think about that butterfly effect and how much of your life, personality, and style is based on music...

[@Matt-uy8tw]

I would survive

[@shamusson]

not based on that kind of music

[@thumpyloudfoot864]

The both of you are missing the point, ALL modern music is the product of the Blues...

[@JabramAllen]

Good, but he's still not going to tell you the whole truth

[@johnolive3425]

Very little.

[@Atilamaster118]

Perhaps the music would have been really different, similar to orchestra, no African music, no jazz, no rock. Modern music would not be the same

[@jojijojo3566]

Atilamaster118 that might've been a good thing

[@tomatojuice984]

Atilamaster118 i think technology effected music more then culture itself did at least the sound of it maybe not the themes of the music but definitely the sound.think about it metal doesn't exist without distorted guitars. rock and roll doesn't exist without the amplifiers and microphones used.why does 80s music sound the way it does it sounds that way because of the modern synth all sounds that were not available before.

[@unspherdcomb6]

Atilamaster118 rock would most likely be here

[@sassymedea3065]

Unspherdcomb6 No it wouldn't because it was heavily influenced by blues music.

[@Happyfayce]

And no rap or hip hop? Plenty of problems solved right there

[@josesoarezz5780]

"Until the lion tells his side of the story, the tale of the hunt will always glorify the hunter.” - African Proverb

[@snap-off5383]

- Not Relevant African Proverb.

[@jaylopes8489]

* "There are two types of people, whites and others" * Archie Bunker - American Philosopher

[@ClassySavvy]

Jay Lopes yes in the words of the self centered white man. The arrogance is truly bliss

[@ClassySavvy]

Jay Lopes ohhh snowflake. you're doing that thing again. being sensitive. you can be upset though. it's human

[@jaylopes8489]

Error - like I said you people are good at the hustle, I write crime statistics then ask for a reply, all you do is write frivolous one liners

[@liannakari5177]

Not from lack of trying first. They probably would have emptied every jail and dungeon in Europe before calling it quits. America would have been the first attempt at penal colonies, besides just Georgia. So we would've had the convicts, the various Christian groups escaping persecution, the Jews escaping Inquisitions, etc.

[@sthenzel]

For GB Australia then may have stayed out of the picture for quite a while longer, simply because there was no workforce left to colonize it.

[@catbiscuits4424]

heh... this is a very thoughtful take. This and thinking about another take this channel had about the black plauge and how the reduction in labor allowed workers to successfully make political and economic demands, sparking innovations that an aristocracy wouldnt have. Slavery not being a thing would have acted in the same way, European workers wouldn't want to live in the colonies... Unless you paid them well. It may well have ended in smaller more advanced nations in the end.

[@TEverettReynolds]

Penal colony of the US, sure, instead of Australia. OK. But lets not forget, the Quakers were already in the US, the English, French, Danish, even the Swedes (anyone remember New Sweden?). That said, the US would still grow, but slower, and differently. Expansion South and West would have been slower. This gives the Native Americans more time to organize and fight back. Maybe a real strong Indian Confederacy, State or Country based around the Great Lakes? Remember... there were 100 million Native Americans in the Americas...

[@BlackGirlLovesAnime6]

And if that was the case they wouldve been kindly compensated by now

[@thepaintpad9817]

I can see it now, the heavily Jewish New York tries to flat out become Israel in this timeline.

[@user-om9cf2tl8k]

When I was little I was shocked at how people hurted each other in the past. My child brain thought that slavery was a thing of the past but I was sadly wrong. There is still slavery in the form of prostitution and other horrible things. I wish I can stop it

[@WarriorofChrist612]

@fuck e-thugs He said he wishes he could stop it lol.

[@WarriorofChrist612]

@fuck e-thugs I understand him but people gonna keep killing eachother and enslaving eachother untill the end of time.

[@WarriorofChrist612]

@fuck e-thugs Yeah even if what the new humans technically didn’t do slavery it would still be it but called different and practiced in different ways. I’m not justifying slavery i’m saying that people just gonna keep doing it.

[@seancrawford4134]

About 1 to 2 million people are technically and legally enslaved in the United States today. They are called " inmates " or " prisoners"

[@TheBcoolGuy]

@@seancrawford4134 There are millions of literal, actual slaves in the world today. Not prisoners. Not any convoluted definition of slave. Slaves the old-fashioned way. They're in the middle east and Asia, and some are being moved through Europe. They are of various races. There was an ad on Facebook for a castrated 70 kg slave.

[@jacobkim1959]

Why use slaves when u can use a red stone system with pistons

[@EEE-pv2eo]

That's true, redstone at least always works.

[@diegonunez3492]

Oh yeah this is big brain time

[@MrSlipknot25]

Well that just sounds like slavery with extra steps

[@WHITETAIL215]

Everyone needed

[@이지민-j5w]

Don't know why but redstones and piston reminds me of Minecraft for some reasons 🤔🥴

[@DMRoper1]

All I can say is, you are one brave guy to tackle this issue. Being black, I don't know if I like or dislike this video, so I didn't rate it either way. But I think you did a good job trying to keep things in perspective. I like your channel though.

[@LoydAvenheart]

w what does you being black have to do with this it's not like he's supporting slavery

[@DMRoper1]

@@LoydAvenheart Perspective. I don't know your ethnicity, but such things shape perspective. Not because I want it to. It just does. And I never said he was supporting slavery. What does it matter anyway?

[@crazyshemshem7897]

Dawn Marie Roper nobody cares how you feel. Your people sold each each other and you broke like twigs.

[@werbnnerf]

@@DMRoper1 you are so right. Perspective is so different among victims and among those indifferent. From the perspective of whites, Mexicans are victims of trump; but from my perspective, minority Hispanics are victims of Mexicans and therefore don't see them as victims whatsoever, but the majority, the "white man" if you would. But remember he did say just the one out of an infinite reality. It's good to see someone has a thought pattern similar to me though. I like feeling empathy

[@DMRoper1]

@@crazyshemshem7897 Spoken like a true psychopath. No thanks for YOUR comments. i care how I feel so no biggy if you don't.

[@lukebaker5135]

*sees title "Oh look, controversy"

[@elchungo5026]

Pig Mage ikr

[@onyxtay7246]

*grabs popcorn* "I'm just here for the comments."

[@thomashudson1524]

no dont

[@joshuabonifacio2150]

The sun is a deadly lazer

[@squiddi1393]

Was literally thinking the same lmao, didn't even watch the video just scrolling through the comments for a lil bit

[@TheMarkey999]

Thanks for making this video and starting the topic… however, I think you are forgetting Europeans and Africans interacted before the Atlantic slave trade… I don’t think Africans wouldn’t have been forgotten about as you emphasize… also, Europeans weren’t the only ones in NA, lmao so idk if they would have had the same success without chattel slavery

[@EAZUP]

As a black man that loves history myself. Good job man. Thx

[@takshashila2995]

Ok

[@orphfinthewizard1774]

@@takshashila2995 truth hurts 😂 you though white was the pioneer creators😂 Loser's, and wouldn't be able to feed yourself. Only thing you good at is killing and hating, lazy jerk off.

[@takshashila2995]

@@orphfinthewizard1774 Wot?

[@thatonemferyaknow3794]

Culpable Injustice Just an ignorant child ignore him

[@hazard4349]

Oh good a non triggerd comment

[@xadanzuri6007]

If we're not fighting over race it'd be religion and that's more so a choice

[@ImehSmith]

Exactly🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@gossamercross20]

Yup telling small minds 1% truth 99% lies and sitting back watching them tell and preach something they literally know nothing about then you ask 5gem why are you filled with hate they always say I don't know I was raised like this

[@leebennett1821]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@user-zd6cn4zw8e]

And land and power and money and ideals and buckets, you name it, we’ve fought over it. Even your mom. jk, I’m sorry

[@gagecreekmore1202]

Shows how dumb seeing color is doesn’t it……….

[@fainitesbarley2245]

They used indentured servants for hundreds of years. The problem was - at the end of their term - you were supposed to let them go. They were then supposed to be able to get land and become productive colonists. People volunteered to be indentured servants. In the South, slavery ruined all this resulting in poor whites being effectively surplus and pushed into marginal swamps and mountains. In the north, without slaves, land grants encouraged a constant stream of peasant farmers to settle.

[@DavidbarZeus1]

Thing is, it was the North that first legalized slavery, though admittedly they started by enslaving Indians rather than blacks, the fact remains that the North had no problems with slavery. Actually, a lot of Northern Founding Fathers like John Hancock and Stephen Hopkins made their fortunes in the triangle trade

[@detachsoup6061]

Umh not really. There were many diffrent kinds of slaves and most of them were bad. Some werent horrible or awful. But in almost every war outside of inner europe the losers were capture and sold as slaves.

[@NayeLoveArt1992]

=as/ / fre

[@eave01]

A lot of people were indentured servants as punishment, frequently for crimes of poverty; England had taken over Ireland and confiscated all the land and the newly tenant farmers were responsible for paying money in exchange for the rent, rather than a portion of crops.

[@fainitesbarley2245]

@@eave01 Yes - people convicted of petty crimes were sent out as indentured servants as an alternative to being hung! They used to recruit young men for the army in the same way! People with no other options volunteered too. Signing up as a servant for one year was common throughout Europe. To go to the colonies you had to sign up for 3-5 years.

[@GAEC1234]

I love how he is being realistic and not giving a single darn about what the youtube mods say

[@DP-oi9nd]

First thing I thought about was popular culture. Lots of music genres wouldn’t exist

[@jaylinmsmith]

Yup

[@DP-oi9nd]

M P ooook? Who is them? What do you mean eliminate ? @fbi

[@CarlosMorales-wd9ng]

I’ll take the prosperity of minorities over the creation of certain music genres.

[@480JD]

I see that as an absolute win.

[@oldermusicgeek]

@@CarlosMorales-wd9ng - Except the Africans would still be oppressed and their land made used of for Europeans, even as it is now.

[@citizenjack544]

you didn’t mention convict labour like they had in Australia after slavery got abolished. if they had turned their back on slave labour and had convict labour there would have been no civil war for a start.

[@lordblazer]

The US did convicted labor literally right after slavery it's called peonage. They'll walk up to a random black teenager and say "you owe me money" and then use their friends and buddies to make the person legally liable for a fictitious debt and boom chaingangs..

[@lordblazer]

@Enclave Soldier lol it was about the state's rights to have slaves.

[@garydeforve5055]

@Enclave Soldier yeah it was.

[@HatWearingDog]

Enclave Soldier States rights, cultural differences, and economic differences were also reasons for the Civil War, but, slavery was the main reason without a doubt. The Confederacy’s economy was solely reliant on slave labor. If it disappeared the entire southern economy would crash forcing plantation owners into financial ruin. The south already had a substantial wealth gap with the large plantation owners having most of the money, their downfall would’ve meant everybody’s ruin. The Confederacy had everything to lose when it came to the abolishment of slavery, they just didn’t want to go down without a fight.

[@citizenjack544]

​@@HatWearingDog The southern economy would be reliant on convict labour instead of slave labour and they wouldn’t have got sympathy either because they committed a crime unlike the slave labour. There would have been riots with convict labour, States rights, cultural differences, and economic differences no doubt, but it would all have all blown over.

[@ThaBlkRainbow]

I think you did the best you could do with this topic. And you didn't give any "happily ever after" bullshit which I appreciate. I honestly don't think America as we know it would exist without the Trans-Atlantic African slave trade. It definitely wouldn't be an economic super power strong enough to maintain itself without Britain's financial support. And I don't think a lot of early colonial Europeans would have survived long enough on the North American continent to create permanent settlements. I'd be interested if you did this same type of concept video only instead of African slavery, you do Native American genocide.

[@kevindavey7245]

Brittany Wilkins I see what you are saying but I would have to strongly disagree with your assessment. After the discovery of the Americas, the Irish were taken from their home land and put into indentured servitude. If it weren't African slavery it would have been a slavery of a different group. Maybe the slav's or the natives but one thing I can say for sure is that wherever there's a potential for profit, every route to it will be explored. The worst thing would be that if African slavery Never existed Africa wouldn't have any export and would have possibly used up all natural resources and starvation would run rampant. Just my thoughts

[@Cheeseburger.Launch.Sequence]

Enslaving slavic folks like me proved a big mistake. Slavs always come back for the win. And no, I'm not a white nationalist slav.....just proud of my Polish heritage. A nation of survivors.

[@kevindavey7245]

Who Pooped In The Pudding? Can't argue with that. I'm Irish and enslaving them turned out to be a bad idea as well with the invention of the IRA. All this is beside the point. My only point was that if it's not one group it would be another group. When powers collide, the greater power will enslave the other in one way or another. My intent wasn't to downplay the Slavic people or the African people or any other people but to point out the nasty side of human nature

[@Cheeseburger.Launch.Sequence]

Put me in charge. I'll sort the Earth out. Then we'll all stand on the street corners squatting while having a smoke break.

[@scottleft3672]

It would'v become just like Australia.

[@gflood5162]

I was thinking about this exact alternative scenario myself and glad to watch your theory on it.

[@April_a26]

NO STOP GO BACK UP GO BACK UP

[@crazymannxl]

You're too late the horrors will never escape me

[@April_a26]

@@crazymannxl why did you do it sean. You fool.

[@crazymannxl]

@@April_a26 it's an addiction I can't help myself

[@April_a26]

@@crazymannxl you're addicted to racist people

[@crazymannxl]

@@April_a26 but their stupidity is so entertaining

[@Vorstellungskraft1]

The video is quite good actually. If anyone is offended - they'd have to calibrate their sensitivity.

[@orraklbenedict1832]

TRUTH!

[@orraklbenedict1832]

Makes scense.

[@khoivo7947]

Thank you

[@sophiaharrison2548]

I'm sorry, where are you from with a name like "Vorstellungskraft1"?

[@RileyRivalle2]

+John Grit You're one of the targets of the OP comment, I see.

[@banjopotato2567]

What if Frieza did not Destroy Planet Vegeta

[@tommytomthms5]

there is a manga that was written but then suddenly stopped after only a few pages where it imagines that future trucks travels to the moment raditz lands on earth instead of when metal frieza does... I would love to see that manga completed for the entire timeline...

[@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024]

Some Dude Goku would not be a god.

[@Torterra625]

Then they're would PROBABLY be more Saiyans to invade Earth than just Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta.... also, Goku might not have arrived on Earth period.

[@forgetful9845]

Then you would have a planet full of potential SSG's Pretty fucking dangerous if you think about it.

[@Torterra625]

Ahp, they need to be "pure of heart" for that trick to work. And not that "pure evil to the core" crap Vegeta said in the Kai dub. Just Super Saiyans though, that's a real possibility and one that will most certainly bring chaos to the DB universe.

[@BusterDarcy]

Got here because the thought just occurred to me, I googled the scenario and your video was very near the top and looked like the most compelling rabbit hole to go down. Glad I made the leap, you covered this from multiple angles I hadn’t considered. Seems like at the end of the day, bad things are always going to happen when profit is the sole motive. If you force one bad thing out of the picture, another one just comes in to fill the vacuum. Maybe there’s a video to be made on what it profit never became a motivator for humanity, but then I can only imagine the myriad consequences that would emerge as a result there as well.

[@pixymisa8087]

We have recent examples of attempts to entirely remove the profit motive from society - Kampuchea was one. It did not, on the whole, turn out well.

[@et3747]

Do What if Australia won the Great Emu War

[@akrybion]

World peace and Australian dominance.

[@Cosimia]

et 37 they never stood a chance

[@lordundeadrat]

Emu are a natural power balance. Without them the drop bears finally get the upper hand and launch a full scale invasion against humanity. Early 20th century weapons would have stood no chance against the hoards of man eaters. Pray that there will always be Emu.

[@kaiserkitsune9393]

Nobody wins against the Emus

[@iamlordemu7542]

No

[@horrendous_karaoke]

The indigenous Americans weren’t mentioned. There would have been many different groups of people in America without the African slave trade.

[@LonecloneProductions]

Assuming the natives were still suppressed like in our timeline, I doubt they would've played a larger role (unless THEY became the targets of slavery) considering they only make up 1% of the current US population.

[@malcolmthompson9555]

He did mention the Americans. He said they bc of European diseases. Plus, they knew the land and were high escape risk

[@Kadasberry11]

He did mention them Sis. They were still wiped out by colonizers smh

[@crayz503es]

@Thomas Douglas it would be awesome if he made an alternate reality w native americans that had guns and ammo against the Europeans

[@sharonford1861]

Moors were here not Indians . Indians are some made up name becuse hindu are called Indians . knowing the truth and being what I know has been great . THANKS !

[@sergiosarmiento4233]

Now I'm wondering what the world would've been like if Christopher Columbus and the Europeans would have been chased out by American natives

[@ninjaslash52_98]

They would’ve came back with an army?

[@Nik-nc4xb]

Sarcalogos Tortolero but what if the natives was too strong?

[@sergiosarmiento4233]

Not super sure, but I do think there have been a few cases in which forceful invasions with an army were not successful in the Americas. This was due to the numbers of soldiers that could be sent all the way from Europe to the new world and the amount of time needed to send reinforcements. It might have been possible for natives to win just with numbers and better knowledge of the land (allowing them to use surprise attacks and traps. If Europeans are unable to keep a constant stream of soldiers being sent over and are faced with the increasing costs, then what would they do?

[@sergiosarmiento4233]

Lil karmicheal they did fight, once it was too late

[@alexschonlau3886]

They wouldnt have lasted long anyway. You can only last so long against a determined enemy that has sea faring ships, colonial enriched economies, and gunpowder when your own civilization hadnt invented the wheel yet.

[@Lhansmeyer33]

Interesting take! lot of information I had not previous heard or thought about. For such a touchy topic, I think you handled it really well!!! Do your feet hurt from trying to walk on eggshells? lol. Good video!

[@AlexAlex-of6ms]

Labor shortage? 18th century? The Irish, all done

[@badfoody]

LOW LIE THE FIELDS OF ATHENRY

[@ShaneDocPuff]

@@badfoody Slave trade stated in the 1600's Irish had their issues in the 1800 and started coming to the U.S. in the 1820s. And in this new timeline that Cody put forth, who is to say that what happened in Ireland would still have happened. So this would have not stopped anything.

[@aoescool]

@@ShaneDocPuff also the American colonies prob wouldn't have survived let alone go beyond the coast.. plus there wasn't enough Irish to be able to build such vast production.. the only reason we live in the world today is millions of people giving free labor on the treat of death and violence.. the world would not be the same.. we prob would be just going through some form of major industrial revolution under some unknown country

[@HighGround_]

HI, yes , just a neutral comment passing by...

[@dylanharris2842]

i wonder where our role is in this because its all coming to a head, i dont want to be in a race war

[@jsm530]

@Ryan McCreedy you too friendo

[@thenotsodemocraticrepublic7731]

There is no neutrality on the internet and if you are, your the enemy of both sides

[@andymadden8183]

*neutrality

[@lsd-rickb-1728]

Gay day

[@GottHammer]

without slave labour, wouldn't there be greater incentive to mechanize sooner?

[@robotictoast65]

Without slave labour, there would be less money to fund it.

[@KManAbout]

People didn't even know such a thing was possible. To them it would seem ridiculous. And also no funding, Europe would be much poorer overall.

[@Adventurerblitz]

There was not all that much money from slavery funding industrialization you know. What spurred industrialization in america was the boycott of europe, slavery didn't matter.

[@wwrbhq7136]

YOU ASSUME TOO MUCH! EUROPEAN PEOPLE HAD ETHICAL PROBLEMS WITH ENSLAVING THERE OWN (NOT THAT THEY DIDN'T DO IT, BUT THEY CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT AT THAT HUGE A SCALE).

[@remc0s]

What if American slavery never existed? Then people wouldn't have a reason to be angry and complain about the past all the time.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

yes they obviously would

[@daviddaugherty2816]

There'd always be something.

[@jerrytheracecardriver1100]

1..2..3..4.. I declare a flame war.

[@KidsAwful]

what ru gonna cry? u gonna cry now? tf2 sucks

[@thatdumbass8962]

oh god not this battle

[@dukebongo2433]

what ru gonna cry? u gonna cry now? Brazzer is better than pornhub

[@nickmcgowan6932]

5...6...7...8.. I am going to masturbate

[@Lenwardo]

so are you Julius Fieser?

[@julialidia3180]

i love that this video brought up the influence Portugal had on slavery, I find Portugal is always glossed over in history even though we've done some terrible things

[@leibianafeliz6734]

Bruce Forte watch the video. It's very specific. What's the problem with people's intellect?

[@XiaoMof]

Bruce Forte oh no it wasn't forgotten it's just not as remembered in the western world

[@Tonixxy]

American slavery was the worst thing ever, they should have never brought them to America. Many of todays problems would not exist, America would be full white country with only Latinos as minority.

[@julialidia3180]

kinda sounds like you're saying the problem is black people in America? I might be misinterpreting but anyway, there's also asians? and native americans? those from the middle east? lol

[@julialidia3180]

I could counter with about a million facts but I don't have time to entertain racism so ok

[@necropious3273]

The impact on the World as a whole is hard to wrap my brain around. The cultural differences world wide would be unimaginable. No Jazz, Blues, Rock and Roll, R&B, Pop and Hip music rising up in America? Not to mention the sports scenes and how they change?!?! Our Country would be COMPLETELY different.

[@orgasmadelicaorgasmadelica9786]

And all the inventions that black people invented and medicine and food

[@TheCSJones]

The USA as we know it wouldn't exist at all. No sugar money = no reason to keep making so many voyages to the new world. Even if the pilgrims came, there might not have been a revolutionary war. Also, no cotton and plantations = several of the southern colonies that became states are probably never set up. Etc.

[@proceonproceon6233]

Not to.mention the black women in Nasa that helped the American space race hidden figures and no George Washington Carver .no many inventions to look then up for yourself

[@izaiahthomas1939]

@marios gianopoulos Not true. Without black people to invent, innovate, and experiment on much of the technology and medicine we have today wouldn't have been created. You need capital, time, and resources to conduct proper R&D and without someone else creating all that for you innovation like how we've seen in the past century would be impossible. Just look at the dark ages.

[@ChrisUnltdTV]

@marios gianopoulos Do some real research on the history of the world and don't rely so much on what you read on Stormfront. There are plenty of text and sources out there on African Innovations

[@mistermagoo8685]

I’m confused if the Europeans made money off of slavery then how would they have conquered Asia? Would it have been slower than in our timeline or what?

[@ProjektTaku]

who said they conquered Asia?

[@basedpro-ua3470]

*!WARNING!* *You are about to enter a toxic comment section. Remember don't feed the trolls [+18]*

[@paxhumana2015]

CRIS /34, I feed the trolls, namely to various dangerous animals as food.

[@michaelrobertson6618]

too late I fell for the trap...but I definitely took their racist views into context LOL...

[@DarkwearGT]

So so far in so

[@justinwhite4129]

This was my first comment....I’m impressed

[@Ark_bleu]

These warning actually helped. You just saved the rest of my evening 🙏😂

[@qwlnskay]

What if England was a city?

[@joshbalt9988]

The Collar would have to be Poppin'.

[@burnburn1270]

No one would live in Compton

[@ohyeaiknowthat]

They need some serious Disney Channel flow

[@jekblom123]

No thanks to the meme and the actual "song" kids are actually starting to think that.

[@jekblom123]

England itself is not a city.

[@johnhillescobar]

I was wondering why you spent so much time apologizing for doing this video until reading the comments below. I can't believe the amount of people who missed the point of the video.

[@eoke94]

John Hill Escobar True lol. The video suggested that even in an alternate world, Whites would still deem Brown/Black people as “outsiders” 😂. I dont take these nasty comments personally. The same heinous things were said about Italians, Jews, Japanese etc long ago. America hates everyone.

[@agonleed3841]

The f2p Pyro yea. America is full of love now. Someone not watching the news, Facebook, KZbin, their own neighborhood

[@spidermann3007]

John Hill Escobar it wasn't missed. It's just that it seems like I refuses to accept that without the enslavement of Africans the European empire would be a tiny fraction of what it is today. He missed a lot. I love the idea but it's lacking any real deep thought of effective that butterfly would be.

[@waneagony]

The f2p Pyro you mean its not hate if its against white males?

[@teamstersmusicunion]

Whites have always missed the point....this is why we had slaver in the first place.

[@fmoney6]

Was hoping you would've predicted more about the development of Africa itself rather than just how it effected america and Europe

[@tomfriendly2412]

Africa wouldn’t have developed. Simple as

[@MrMinevision1]

@@tomfriendly2412 but they were already on their way to development before slavery...

[@tomfriendly2412]

@@MrMinevision1 “b-but africa was literally gonna be so great if those colonists never came!” dude, africa will literally never progress beyond the level they’re at now, and they wouldn’t have with or without colonialism or whatever you think caused their stagnant progress. you’re lying to yourself.

[@MrMinevision1]

@@tomfriendly2412 I know I'm wasting my time engaging you at all but how much about African history do you even know? or culture at all. Do you know anything about their traditions and or cultures and the way their societies functioned and operated before colonialism? I'll tell you if the answer is no and this is just ignorance but if you genuinely don't have an interest then you really shouldn't make claims like this it doesn't paint you in the best light....

[@MrMinevision1]

@@tomfriendly2412 I think corruption is a big problem that is causing the lack of progress in africa tbh. That isn't a lie.

[@annasmith6090]

Me: I'm gonna look through the comments, just to see what others are saying Me *ten seconds later*: yeah... we don't really need to know what others are saying... for our own sanity's sake

[@xzkyv3710]

Sam

[@worstusernameintheworld9871]

Sam

[@bent8085]

Little tip: never go into a comment section in a political video or a historical video that is tackling controversial topics

[@iprobablyknowyou2713]

Sam

[@opposite_lava1946]

Sam

[@SGLopez-ui3ps]

This is actually an otherwise incredibly great video but I have just one complaint that most people wouldn't think of: It wasn't completely unthinkable for medieval Christians that Africans could be Christian -- it was long known that Ethiopia was Christian, for example, and there had long been a desire to spread and convert pagans -- the problem was that Islamic kingdoms controlled every route to travel south, and by the time Europe had the required sailing technologies, profit motive took over and the actual conversion movement was sidelined -- particularly after converting the Congo caused the Congo to suddenly resisted the slave trade and caused a defensive war against Portugal in which both kingdoms were Christian

[@PHAToregon]

S.G. Lopez what

[@rickwrites2612]

There are several other problems like this in his history, where he conflates important things or makes untrue absolutes that altogether result in skewed assumptions and bias his conclusions. I'm sure it's not intentional, and I do appreciate his attempt. But the fact 95% of the idea of race as we mean it came from 1800s, that human bands didn't practice slavery and were aggressively egalitarian and cooperative for 30,000 yrs, that all the slavery since the dawn of domestication 10,000 yrs ago before the transatlantic slavery(such as Rome, Arab) was not chattel slavery by categorical imperative (x are always slaves, y are always not) nor inflicted on every subsequent generation ad infinitum, that you cant use the ways Blacks are treated during or after slavery to make an argument for how they'd be treated if they were never enslaved, etc.

[@jamesk5541]

@@rickwrites2612 one any alternate history is untrue and made up. The idea of Race didn't come from the 1800s it formed long before that. Yes the Romand saw races for who they were but based it also and more so on nation alignment. The Chinese were racist against Europeans and vice versa. The only reason why Race began to play a larger factor was the inclusion of Colonialism and foreign exploration in the 15-1600s. Whites began to interact with mid-southern Africans tribes and and in true European fashion compared themselves to what they called savages.

[@Joe-uz7vd]

"hrmmm im just so smart, no one else would think of this complaint"

[@TheGospelnut]

I dunno, I feel like all the petty criminals that got sent to Australia would have been shipped to the new world as indentured servants instead

[@fatpenguin0089]

Australia wasn't colonised and used as a prison island until after the American revolution I Think...

[@lucyluu02]

*InsertCreativeUsernameHere * england first visited Australia in 1780, declared it uninhabited (they believed that due to the aboriginal Australians nomadic lifestyle it ‘didn’t count’ as inhabited) 8 years later in 1788 the first colony arrived. So basically placing the revolution predating and during the planning of Australia.

[@fatpenguin0089]

@@lucyluu02so I was right.

[@PharociousArt]

It wasn't a new world, and they sent many "indentured servants" and criminals to the Americas, it was called penal "Transportation" and was very common sentence back in the 1700's.

[@fatpenguin0089]

@@PharociousArt new world is literally what it was referred as.

[@capitaljames6480]

So slavery was never about racism, it was about money. I’m gonna be honest that makes a lot more sense

[@kellyfye3886]

they didn't think of black people as people so that is racism.

[@cookiecrumble5048]

Slavery didn't start because of racism but they were still very very very racist

[@NomadA1]

Slavery was not about racism. Racism and Eugenics were used to JUSTIFY slavery.

[@kellyfye3886]

@@NomadA1 if you don't think of a race as people that's racism.

[@NomadA1]

@@kellyfye3886 You're misunderstanding. Slavery was about money. However, they justified it through racism and eugenics. Think conceptually.

[@nunomoreira4678]

I'm Portuguese, this part of history is kind of well explained in portuguese history classes. So you can imagine how funny I find your comments on Portuguese slave trading.😂

[@nunomoreira4678]

@Ronan Theunissen it does! But the teachers (maybe some do) don't really explain how brutal it was. And, for some kind of weird reason, everybody seams to think that we (the Portuguese) were some kind of "good" colonizers because we didn't kill all the natives in the first contacts. Everybody knows about the slave trafficking, the sugar plants in Brazil and more. There's a lot more than what the video tells about the Portuguese (for example, there's some evidence that suggest Portuguese explorers discovered Australia first but kept quiet about it 😂😂)

[@kashunwhitworth8946]

Shut yo bitch ass up

[@es8428]

@@kashunwhitworth8946 if you don’t like the comment, then go away. Don’t be immature

[@anabeatr1x]

brasil foi o país com mais escravos nas américas

[@westay4924]

its never actually talked about across the globe though. same with the Ottoman empire when they made white europeans slaves. Portuguese schools probably do teach it though

[@fullmetal238]

Shit! Sugar was the Meth of back in the day.

[@blackvaginafinda2706]

I’m confused because white people dont believe in sugar 😩

[@twinkitten1]

Well sugar gives you cancer and diabetes so now it's hated cause it literally kills you .....lol (sweet poison)

[@blackvaginafinda2706]

twinkitten1 I may be wrong but I’m pretty sure it’s the artificial shit that make you sick

[@exin7778]

Fullmetal It's a proven fact that sugar is 10 times more addicting than cocaine.

[@aryan4603]

Lmaooo

[@iammaxhailme]

I'm watching this 2 years later. I see in the intro "This isn't meant to be about recent events." Now I"m trying to remember what happened in 2017 which is probably what that disclaimer is about...

[@bradmiller2329]

Ferguson riots.

[@Cblizy]

Me 2

[@lilfattcatt7758]

Same

[@noelleknowswell]

Two years ago there were new findings of slavery in Liberia and other African countries enslaved by Arabs

[@ronshort1593]

iammaxhailme Charlottesville riots

[@dummydummy1493]

Africans and Natives: (Exist) Britain and Spain: We’re gonna do what's called a pro-gamer move.

[@bbp2930]

Lol

[@krism.493]

Why is KZbin full of insanely racist commentors instead of people who just find alternate history intriguing..

[@BlackLegion12621]

Key is love Peele is life Because we live in a politically troubled time where people allow emotion to rule them, rather than logic and reason.

[@transformersloverjon]

Peter Hanson KZbin has always been this way. This is nothing new. KZbin has always sucked.

[@vanders4198]

Peter Hanson Like tearing down historical monuments because snowflakes feel offended.

[@BlackLegion12621]

transformersloverjon I'm quite aware of that. KZbin's inherent shittiness has been apparent since 2007.

[@yangxiaolong8657]

Why is youtube full of virtue signalling liberals who will call people ignorant all day before doing research

[@deadmenish]

Im surprised that most of the comments isn't related to the video at all.

[@martenkruger2094]

John Deadman (Yes Sir you caught that too!)

[@arcadiaaalfaourimaisonet1740]

THATS BECAUSE 90% OF THE RESPONSES ARE FROM COMPLETE DUM ASSES!!! I WOULD LIKE TO STICK MY FOOT UP EVERYONES ASSES THEN SEE HOW THEY FEEL!!!

[@Volvith]

It's the comment section. I'm surprised it isn't growing tumours faster than a gatling gun can spread freedom.

[@leda3525]

this one too

[@Shadow77999]

Yes it is

[@sergodobro2569]

Meanwhile in Russia: Enslave your people! Enslave everyone!

[@tealablu3759]

Or use them as cannon fodder during the war. There are plenty of people. What’s a couple million?

[@nobleman9393]

Yes, Enslave the Wind

[@player1playforfun]

More like soviet russia.

[@Iwanttodevourhumanflesh]

*G U L A G*

[@ilshxdow9]

@@nobleman9393 enslave the winter

[@emcanet]

The financial side of slavery was taught in an Anti- racism course I took. How that financial side sparked legal support of "race" for political reasons. Specifically that all original slaves in America were indentured but with the loss of labor after time served those with the wealth sought to retain their free labor. It is fascinating and people should learn more about our history. Learn how legally and politically those in power sought to get the public to be ok with permanent slavery for certain peoples. Race was a legally defined construct. One could be a different race dependent on the state they lived. People could petition the Supreme Court to legally change their race.

[@vladtheinhaler8940]

Anti racism class? Lol

[@smarttestdummy1059]

Now imagine the cost after. from cities changing, housing prices changing, costs to the US tax payer for social programs, and laws, law suits etc. The US lost more than it ever gained and continues losing.

[@Asmodius37]

Just remember facts don't care about feelings. That said, I mean I get why you as a content creator care about triggering the wrong people. I think people who actually want to know history and NOT propaganda and other BS fully support you. Also I find it fun and entertaining to think about alternate history and what might have been. Keep up the good work. :D

[@Vitorruy1]

That sounds good in plain paper but in my experience the whole "facts don't care about feelings" just lead people to consider everything in their ideology a hard fact and militantly stomp it around.

[@BeefWagon]

How is it propaganda to say slavery was bad? Aha, idk if that’s what you meant but don’t you think it’s understandable people find it weird when others try to support slavery?

[@MrEvldreamr]

Vitorruy1 i agree w you. Militant opinions are often called 'facts depending on which groups of people you're talking about

[@matthewdentistry2814]

well said

[@nosmoke247]

Asmodius37 all you were ever taught was propaganda. Sheep trance goes deep n sheeple thumbs up. Sad

[@EmperorTigerstar]

Great video, Cody!

[@olaff9771]

Thanks

[@henrycrabs3497]

SILENCE CHECKMARK

[@Grubnar]

No slaves from Africa you say? Hmm ... Where else could we get cheep slave labor? *Looks over towards Ireland* Hmmmmm.....!?!?!

[@danemortensen8243]

Cheap not cheep

[@dwhoop7045]

@462!!? 786%!! B.S if whites are so hard working why do they bring Mexicans from Mexico and South America to do their low pay jobs?? You people wouldn't last working hard in the sun ..

[@allisond.46]

Ireland is kinda small and far away. My personal favorite is “if you hadn’t killed off the natives, you could use them for labor!” (Apologies to all Native Americans. It seems better than being dead.)

[@yashuafly6342]

D Whoop lol funny, how often do you see a black construction worker? Or a black anything worker for that matter.. hypocrite. I guarantee you are on welfare, writing how whites don’t work. How do you think this country got here, whites flocked from Europe for the gold rush.. you are such a moron. Get a job and stop making whites raise your kids loser.

[@FightingThrone]

Yashua Fly you see workers of all colors and races everyday what are you talking about

[@sirnutaku7716]

If slavery never happened I wouldn't have to be dealing with slaves jokes for my whole life

[@whenthe2488]

What a horrible thing people 😭😭😭😢😭😭😢😭😢😭😢😭😢😭

[@failyourwaytothetop]

You forgot to mention we would have had the Mexicans who are a mixed race people. They might have played a more prominent role in those areas where slaves operated. The absence of a transatlantic slave trade would have been a win win situation for both Europeans and Africans. It would have eliminated centuries of oppression of one group upon another.

[@wiebeengelen3375]

You do know that when europeans firts settled in America that the population of Mexico was made up of natives who were dying, because of European deseases. Only centuries later with the help of a population boost because of slave trade Mexico would be a country with a decent population again. So no, Northern America couldn't sustain itself of the population of Mexico

[@chaoselite33]

@@wiebeengelen3375 not true Mexico had some African slaves but by far the majority of slaves were native Americans, the Aztecs were almost totally destroyed after the Spanish conquest but Mexico has and had so many different groups of native Americans and in large populations way more than most parts in the Americas, Mayans, apaches, Zapotecas, tlaxcaltecas, theres are still a large percentage of purely native blooded people in Mexico specially in the southern parts.

[@wiebeengelen3375]

@@chaoselite33 the thing is that these natives were sometimes hostile and they would probably die of diseases much more than what we saw in our timeline, furthermore Europeans and settlers would have to actively waste resources trying to capture them, because they were not cooperative with the Europeans (well, in small amounts, but they clearly saw the Europeans as more of a threat than eachother)

[@chaoselite33]

@@wiebeengelen3375 alot of the tribes were hostile, difference is Spain used relgion and forced the Catholic faith on most of them over time they learned to live under the Spanish system and Spanish many times intermingled with Native Americans and people of other races but its well known in Mexican history most Mexicans are a mix of Spanish and native there are some with African mixture but it's very few Mexico was one if not the first country to abolish slavery in the Americas even had a leader/president with African ancestry way back when it first became independent, it's well known the Spanish used Native Americans and Mestizos half natives and European for most of the work and that lasted for most of Mexico's history instead of plantations, Mexico had some thing called haciendas.

[@mandeemonee]

gee sounds like a race has been forgotten in all this,,, something to think about ;)

[@mateuszk6825]

Dont forget that slavery wasnt just an European thing Arabs had a huge slave trade, Ottomans traded whites from the balkans and many asian kingdoms praticed slavery on smaler scale

[@miguelgrohmannhernandez2224]

Mateusz rfsef that is why he said *American slavery*

[@augustopinochet6899]

Mateusz rfsef Christanity originally banned slavery.

[@stephentaylor6726]

Mateusz rfsef yeah, stop deflecting and start feeling guilty for what your ancestors did already. How dare you point out factual historical information that relates to the subject being discussed instead of falling to your knees and proselytizing yourself before the masses. The only words that should be coming out of your filthy white mouth is 'I'm so sorry.' and 'Here's all my money.'

[@Meffrgtikiii]

Miguel Meneses Hernandez the difference between the arab and turkish slavery system and the european based one is that there was no such thing as race or superiority involved

[@jessigirlrae1688]

jj jj So it makes it totally cool for how many to die on the march across the desert? Or by mutilation to create eunuchs? Or to still have forced slaves to this day?

[@kndall3053]

What if the Seahawks ran the ball?

[@treymagathan847]

Kəndall Then they would have won Super Bowl 49 31-28

[@aiirmaverick3028]

Kəndall What if the Panthers were good?

[@Devo57]

Kəndall they're my favorite team and they'll never live that down. It was a huge disappointment.

[@hu3mpire]

>start video > *get lacta chocolate advertisement*

[@MichaelofWaves]

What if this comment section never existed?

[@hephaestus9901]

Meikel then i wouldnt get cancer

[@jooasalmi730]

I wouldn't be tying this noose ...

[@Entertainment_AJC]

I’m dead 💀💀💀

[@katireei7761]

Actually it was a good scenario *What if social media never existed*

[@bucketofdicks4096]

A bunch of ignorant dickheads and virtue-signalling SJWs would have a load of pent up rage?

[@fuzzythoughts8020]

This has probably been one of my favorite video's you've done Cody. I like the ones that really wing it, and this one had some good humor in it too.

[@JasonSpenc]

Kudos to you for at least having the intellectual bravery to make an objective attempt to theorize the alternate timeline and subsequent effects in a plausible and logically sound way

[@JabramAllen]

Actually he's wrong, before Azzara the guy who told all the lies about Africans, race did not exist. And yes people across the globe did interact. Ag.ain an attempt to whitewash history

[@JasonSpenc]

@@JabramAllen Thank you for your feedback, please specify which parts (by time reference point) where he's "wrong" and then help me understand what actually happened. Peace.

[@craydussy]

@@JasonSpenc no response lmao

[@vladtheinhaler8940]

​@JabramAllen You don't even know history, you wouldn't know if it was being whitewashed or not.

[@Eliezer3838]

At this point I’ve learned to not go around surfing the entire comment section. It makes your head throb.

[@rewarp4017]

Good advice

[@Lebaneselinguist]

What if the ottomans won at the battle of Vienna. Can you alternate this timeline?

[@Janellecook02]

Captain Price yes good idea and not a comment about race I love it

[@Lebaneselinguist]

Kishili Gille 😀👍

[@BiselGuy]

A useful comment! THANK YOU!!!!! Cody, pls read this!

[@asinglelemanrussbattletank2351]

and then the WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED

[@mcgoldenblade4765]

The Winged Hussars wouldn't have arrived.

[@olufemiagbato8519]

Good job with the Alternate timeline! I always imagined what this would look like. However it is very easy to focus mainly on the effects of topics like this on the Western world and not so much Africa and Asia. Stories like these are usually told from a Western narrative....just like all the history books. For me I think the African continent which had many powerful empires and feudal states would have continued to trade with the European, Arab and Asian traders and trading outposts to the continent. The 10-13 million Africans that were sold/taken/stolen from the continent would have stayed and been a part of 3 main things that would have reshapened Africa; War (Between African states and foreign invades). Trade (Exchange of goods, services and ideas). Knowledge Exchange (Writing, Art, Language and Industrial advancement)...... Possibly more things but these are what I am focusing on. Each of these 3 things would have benefited from 10-13 million able bodied men and women that wouldn't have been slaves and would have been at home. Concerning racism and the inferior perception of the African man; to me these were convenient stereotypes created by a few very powerful and wealthy individuals that benefited from the trans-atlantic slave trade. Monarchs, Business traders, Religious leaders etc. If Africans were never subjected to industrialized slavery, the rare but inevitable interaction between common Europeans, Colonists, Asians and Africans would have been more "humane". One of curiosity and exchange of ideas. With a dash of fear and racism of course, but not nearly as bad as the interaction where by your first experience is observing another human being (different from you) in a cage and in chains. No matter how good and religious you are this type of first contact molds you and your generations after you. I wish someone would tell the same Alternate time line but from an African narrative and point of view.

[@rj1056]

I have a question, what is it like to be African when seen by African Americans?

[@ATLMike94]

@@buckplug2423 Well Africa was making great intellectual progress before Europeans interfered. You underestimate how technologically advanced Africa would have been. Math itself was invented in Africa. Digital computer systems originated from ancient African cultural practices. They had made astrological advancements that we are still realizing to this day. Where Africa went wrong was their weapons technology. Europeans had the better weapons. However, without the finances acquired from slavery, none of those European empires would have had the finances to continue advancing their weapons so quickly. This is the only part of the video he got wrong. European countries would not have had the finances, weapons or manpower to still colonize Africa. Most continents including Europe and Africa would have advanced at a slow pace until oil was discovered. Africa and North America, the biggest producers of oil would have benefited the most from industrialization and empires from countries in those continents would have been born. With abundant knowledge of the solar system perhaps an African country is the first to the moon. The USA in a different form still exists due to oil money. A Cold War between those countries begin, etc.

[@ATLMike94]

@John Barber History is hilarious isn't it

[@k.m.b969]

I love the idea of seeing this from the African perspective.

[@denzelwenzel]

@@yashuafly6342 Soooo the white people were basically innocent, because they didn't physically captured the slaved themselves? Is that what you're getting at

[@reign0599]

What if the Soviet Union refused to back down during the Cuban Missle Crisis? What would have happened?

[@notbadsince97]

Everyone's dead or the US flinches

[@chessmaster1569]

Clay do this

[@chessmaster1569]

Or the Berlin airlift

[@Echo0221]

Then the events of the book resurrection day would happen.

[@superillusiveman1445]

We'd be running around the wasteland in power armor putting down raiders, faral ghouls, super mutants and.... Probably be dying from radiation induced cancer.

[@CarlosDaniel_96]

I was happy for Portugal making a presence in the video ... Boy was I wrong . Sad Portugal noises ....