Alternative History of Agriculture - VERSADOCO

[@Versadoco]

ℹ︎Context of the video: Some parts of the documentary refers to the Ancient Astronauts theory, which posits that extraterrestrial beings visited and influenced ancient civilizations. However, it's worth noting that since the documentary's creation, additional data have come to light, and this theory struggles to account for all the available evidence of anomalous phenomena. While the Ancient Alien theory has not been definitively proven or discarded, it remains an open option for consideration and discussion.

[@rexmann1984]

I'm glad I'm not the only one questioning why we eat plants. We went from eating herbivores and the predators of those herbivores to eating plants in 2,000 years. Why? All the new ancient sites that have been found that are OLDER than agriculture with unparalleled precision. Something isn't right

[@gardenfornutrition6373]

Glad to see I am not the only one thinking this way. Plus, the blue blood angle was completely new. Very interesting.

[@DoctorVarvara]

Great movie! I’m from Russia, Medical Doc, dietitian and Teacher of History of Medicine. Thank you so much for huge work, regarding to our Andrey Sklayrov, Graham Hancock, and these curates of Yaval Hararry are precious 🎉

[@johndock9164]

👍 Fantastic video.

[@Stonecutter334]

So many ancient stories seem to revolve around the “ gods” needing humans to mine gold. Maybe this is another misunderstanding. Perhaps what they meant was to grow golden wheat. Bread wheat is the gold they’re really talking about. Later humans just assumed gold the metal was what was meant. Esp when they saw it’s properties. But really it was wheat and farmers that they needed. I found this video extremely interesting. Think you’re really on the right track here.

[@worldoftruth9304]

This is a really great video, huge eye-opener and thought provoking. Thanks!

[@Phaota]

Fascinating and highly informative documentary. I learned a lot of things I didn't think or know about until now, especially concerning the blue blood/copper angle, which makes perfect sense. It also fits why humans used copper for so long before ditching for iron and steel.

[@DoctorVarvara]

Our Скляров🔥🔥🔥 Великий scientist !

[@pichan8841]

This really appeals to me! And everything suddenly makes so much sense! Yet: This I remember from reading 'The Dawn of Everthing', 2021, by David Wengrow and David Graeber, who were putting outdated history commonplace to the test of acutal dig-site proof: Archaelogical evidence suggests that 'agriculture' was practised after thousands of years of continuous , small scale ritual plant growing, e. g. like in flowerbeds. Lots of time to learn about 'agriculture' and the knowledge of how to 'breed wheat from weed'. Yet, even after humans had 'mastered' farming, many ancient peoples / tribes seemingly were reluctant to adopt the necessary life style required. If taken seriously and researched properly, this could take 'ancient gods', exo-civilisations, or NHIs out of the equation.

[@luclachapelle3499]

The remaining seeds from the pre-flood cultures ... who vanished suddenly just as the megafauna from the ones who built the megaliths

[@Kelticfury]

Totalitarian agriculture. Lmao that's a new one.

[@Warvideos401]

Blue dye, methylene blue works on cell level in mitochondria which is used to breath- to process oxygen in cell to create energy ...something like that... so red blood may carry oxygen... but this oxygen is delivered to cell where mitochondria works with it ...and methylene blue improves that

[@garyschneider6644]

My reaction after listening to this is two words: Occam’s Razor. This is interesting, but I suspect that “gods” from interstellar space are probably not necessary to explain the rise of agriculture.

[@Versadoco]

Some parts of the documentary refers to the Ancient Astronauts theory, which posits that extraterrestrial beings visited and influenced ancient civilizations. However, it's worth noting that since the documentary's creation, additional data have come to light, and this theory struggles to account for all the available evidence of anomalous phenomena. While the Ancient Alien theory has not been definitively proven or discarded, it remains an open option for consideration and discussion.

[@aidantilgner]

This channel reminds me of 3blue1brown but for alternative history. I love it.

[@Gromp]

I am farmer in East Asia since ten years and i also have master degree in the history of ideas with focus on agriculture. I'm very interested in the early soviet discoveries in this field. Nikolai Vavilov also spoke of Abyssina an area in east Africa where they found more grain varieties than in the rest of the world combined, suggesting a long period of "natural farming" involving seed gathering on the continent long before the domestication of plants. Thank you very much for this well made film i was hoping that maybe you have some suggestions to more papers by Vavilov and his school of thought since i cant read Russian. I would be very happy for you reply!

[@Versadoco]

Thank you! Unfortunately, English translations of his works are very limited. There is Vavilov's "Origin and Geography of Cultivated Plants" on Library Genesis and "The origin, variation, immunity and breeding of cultivated plants." books. I hope this will be helpful.

[@Gromp]

​@@Versadoco Thank you for the fast reply. I have the origin and geography of cultivated plants, i plan to reread it this summer together with a new book by Gary Paul Nabhan a Franciscan brother who wrote "Where Our Food Comes From Retracing Nikolay Vavilov’s Quest to End Famine" as well as "Against the grain" by Richard Manning featured in your video. The temple where i farm is a Buddhist temple in the Zen and Pure land tradition interestingly a very ecological school of Buddhism with a long tradition of natural farming and reliance on such productivity rather than donations and aristocratic connections etc. My mentor used to be Franciscan who also have a strong emphasize on practical labour. What I appreciated in your video was the materialist reading of Gods and the role they play in history. Weather they are from a different planet is perhaps a bit to speculative for my taste. Still once again i feel you put primary focus on the alienating mechanisms of their ideology through symptomatic reading of their own written account as well as their material artefacts. To me this should be the driving force of anybody looking for liberation. I.e to reveal and expose the consequences of ancient class society. Most people when they are introduced to this legacy seem to believe the same ideology which was used to enslave their subjects and work their fields. They make fantastic stories about the mysteries about this old autocrats and ad allot of contingent nonsense to make a good story. I have done some video editing work in the past, and I am a meagrely funded researcher and hopefully next year or already end of this year i will have more time over. I would love to be able to assist you in the work on this channel with content of similar character. Maybe you have some other means of contacting you? In the mean time i will continue to look at some of your videos, thank you once again!

[@Versadoco]

Any support is appreciated! You can reach me at alwerlan at gmail dot com. Cheers

[@DoctorVarvara]

Hello from Russia, thx a lot for your info🍏

[@DoctorVarvara]

@@VersadocoSklyarov has great books, one of them “Genetic code” - big investigation and alternative version of anthropology, history of human evolution, and agriculture with looot of links to other scientists and authors

[@mickael1991]

the theory of waves of forms and solar radiations is also a theory which explains that the mountains were the creation of new species of cereals. Proof of this is also the construction like Moray in Peru that the modification of plants is a technique well home.

[@Versadoco]

New species are mutated constantly. But we are talking about directed hybridisation process, genetic modification when different DNA combined, genes manipulated in order to get bread wheat.

[@mickael1991]

@@Versadoco You assume that progressive evolutionism is an ontological truth when it is not.

[@mickael1991]

Form field theory explains these phenomena in the same way that millions of species disappear in a short period of time and make way for a completely different new fauna. There are fossils that have been instantly decrepit.

[@mickael1991]

@@Versadoco Take the example of homo floresiensis. A modern man who died 12,000 years ago and had the skull of a chimpenzee. And no, it wasn't island dwarfism. This humanoid was similar to Lucy

[@mickael1991]

@@Versadoco Instantaneous electric fossilization and waveform theory also explain the phenomenon of "fossil animals" such as the unlikely existence of a 100 ton dinosaur walking upright "contrary to thermodynamics". It is not that these animals survived or that they were particularly robust but although they disappeared and reappeared with the waves of forms entangled with the matter, the different physical laws and according to the structure of the matter for a moment given in the location of space where the solar system was located. Hybridizations of elongated skulls too.

[@КостянтинЗотов-д3х]

Very very well done. Good job!

[@precision_rifleman]

genesis 3 is the answer for this question that’s being purposed.

[@travismann6603]

We have changed our agriculture by magnitudes over the last 200 years. The slow evolution of change in hunter gathers over 2000 years could easily manipulate crops without knowing it. Birds can easily spread seeds across the planet over 2000 years. I don't think anything mysterious happened.

[@kubrickenigma7977]

Agriculture makes it possible to have larger families, that is more children. Having many children made more hands available, and that could distribute work. More children meant more gene variety for the region and beyond, as with plants and domesticated animals. In a way, we farmed ourselves.

[@wojciechszeremeta2502]

Great documentary

[@jeepz669]

Now im hungry

[@ZiggyDan]

Very informative.

[@wojciechszeremeta2502]

Highly compelling

[@kellyjohns6612]

How ironic, mr Harari tells us to eat GMO altered food and lab grown meat (and bugs)AND states the folly in agriculture

[@mickael1991]

Matthew 6 25Therefore I say to you, Do not worry about your life what you will eat, nor about your body, what you will put on. Isn't life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26Look at the fowls of the air: they neither sow nor reap, neither do they gather in barns; and your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth much more than them? 27Which of you, by his worries, can add a cubit to his life span? ...

[@Versadoco]

It's not relevant any longer since we created artificial technological habitat for our civilisation.

[@mickael1991]

@@Versadoco The problem of construction does not only concern the places you are talking about but the entire surface of the glob. The problem lies not so much in the nature of the tools as in the nature of the physical structure of matter at that time. proof is the cellar life or the cart-ruts.

[@mickael1991]

@@Versadoco having traveled to Peru I confirm that techniques that we could call "industrial" like incredible 3D molding techniques have come into existence all at once. But there is a fourth state of matter. "Plasma" . What is strange is that these high frequency and cavitation techniques are very simple to use but are today relayed to the military field.

[@precision_rifleman]

@@mickael1991 what are you talking about? plasma? sources?!

[@manbehindthebeard3213]

@@precision_rifleman he is referring to sound/frequency. Also there are more than 3 states of matter, gas, liquid, solid, and plasma. The construction of megalithic structures are made possible with knowledge of those things. And all of this technology and agriculture and everything these "gods" brought with them has done nothing but destroy the nature of humanity. Our innocents was taken from us. Sorry kinda went on a little tangent there. Have a wonderful day

[@MohammedKhan-vz4sm]

Astarte gave agriculture to ancients.

[@erniemajor]

47:04 How about 'from the SKY'? They could fly around, so why 'extraterrestrial' fantasy? Do blue blooded sea creatures come from 'space' or is it more plausible that they evolved right here?

[@Versadoco]

Our civilization is about to become extraterrestial. It is not a fantasy anymore. Interplanetary travel is not a sci fi we do it already with our unmanned tech. The answer to what exactly happen in the past is not that simple and obvious hence the theory of a paleocontact is on the plate. It is important to remember it is just one of a theories to consider and not the final answer. P.S. as for the blue blooded creatures. Have you heard about a theory that octopuses are actually alien (ET) creatures that made it to Earth potentially as frozen eggs in comets? There is a science paper related to that if you google it.

[@GeorgesSegundo]

@@Versadoco The alien octupos theory is awesome! Makes total sense after your video also.

[@ibatman56]

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[@Версадоко]

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[@Christian-hh7rq]

Gratitude for the video. There where some new informations at the beginning of the video for me. Unfortunately, in my eyes, it later goes in a direction with many half-truths in which a parasitic way of life is praised and deities are defamed. Let’s ask our self some questions: What do hunters and gatherers? -> The kill everything eatable, use every resources they find and then they go to the next place and the same continues and continues (When you believe in the official story) Where would we at stay when we hasn’t overcome this live style? -> Probably populations grows and grows and nothing living would remain on earth? Who likes blood, meat, killings, uses lies and tries to slave man kind? -> It has many names: Devil, evil, … For the future if you show the (indian) deities, please tell the correct story. Among an infinite number of other things, Krishna has fought for humanity to stop the evil on the rise. If you like to stay on a level only to survive it’s up to you, but God provides a way to overcome all suffering and can bring bliss in your live and this for free of charge if you are open for it! At the moment there are so much lies out there and they all sound so plausible (in mainstream but also in alternative science). It’s not easy to find the right path but the time will change by the grace of God.

[@Versadoco]

Well, the problem with "he/she fought for humanity to stop the evil" is the same as in a geopolitics. Who/what is evil depends on which side you are. In that regard, none of the gods pursued interests of humankind but rather theirs. It never was a fair contract for us and will never be. Because if you will think about yourself as a servant you'll be the servant of their civilization, not yours. In terms of other things, you can easily bring a bliss into your life by creativity. If you'd like to serve, serve humanity not "gods" though.