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AM4 Coolers on AM5 - The Final Answer

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Hardware Canucks

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@igavinwood
@igavinwood Жыл бұрын
Clarity on new gen kit is so important. Especially when there are unscrupulous operators in the market. Thanks for the heads up
@tiestofalljays
@tiestofalljays Жыл бұрын
If there’s one constant in this space, it’s ‘Noctua is awesome.’
@laurikvo
@laurikvo Жыл бұрын
Agree. Bought my NH-U12S almost 10 years ago and it’s still compatible with my newest computer with a free socket mount kit directly from their website (also no postage fees at least in the Europe!). It also works and is silent like the day I bought it. They are not cheap but they are woth it in the long term.
@KellyWu04
@KellyWu04 Жыл бұрын
And expensive. Thermalright and DeepCool have cheaper options that get you 90% of the performance.
@Wanted54321
@Wanted54321 Жыл бұрын
@@KellyWu04 their support is nowhere close to noctua tho.
@KellyWu04
@KellyWu04 Жыл бұрын
@@Wanted54321 with the price difference you can buy 3 sets of socket adapters for Thermalright or DeepCool and still come out cheaper.
@Wanted54321
@Wanted54321 Жыл бұрын
@@KellyWu04 still zero customer support, would take quality over quantity anytime
@lukemanley3987
@lukemanley3987 Жыл бұрын
I am not even kidding, i just bought all my new parts for my next-gen build INCLUDING the Scythe Fuma 2, and when I saw you initially show the email from scythe, my heart dropped. Thank you so much for clearing everything up and showing that it is actually compatible!
@haberdasherrykr8886
@haberdasherrykr8886 Жыл бұрын
Jayztwocents didn't help with his clickbaity videos so thank you HWC
@keppycs
@keppycs Жыл бұрын
That's the one thing I don't like about him. I even got banned from commenting on his videos for calling him out on his excessive clickbait a few years ago :/
@Maxwell1725P
@Maxwell1725P Жыл бұрын
I unsubscribed from his channel and haven't seen one of his videos in a while. He ruined the channel with the talking head videos parroting rumors and misinformation as they were facts.
@MrDvneil
@MrDvneil Жыл бұрын
jay2cents knows nothing about computers, he just poops bullshit that confuses people.
@animegeek6118
@animegeek6118 Жыл бұрын
What do you expect jays an AMD fanboy now.
@Z0eff
@Z0eff Жыл бұрын
@@keppycs He blocked me on twitter a while back for a similar reason :|
@awsm253
@awsm253 Жыл бұрын
This is actually very helpful and im glad I found this. So what AMD said about am4 cooler compatability was technically true. it just boils down to if Cooler manufacturers required you to replace your Backplate. Building a new PC soon with AM5 so this definitely made me a bit more aware of what I'm doing.
@amateurwizard
@amateurwizard Жыл бұрын
Please got CAN WE PLEASE get one set of mounting methodologies for consumer platforms, one mounting pattern, for ALL consumer platforms. This is mental. There is no need for this, mounting pressure is mounting pressure...
@PhilipChou
@PhilipChou Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike for explaining this issue so clearly. Great stuff (as always)
@janstech7156
@janstech7156 Жыл бұрын
That answer from Scythe support was strange. I actually wrote to Scythe EU a week ago and got this reply: "The mounting system for AM4 and AM5 is identical. So the Fuma 2 is already completely compatible to AM5. "
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 Жыл бұрын
more precisely for intel and amd
@sql64
@sql64 Жыл бұрын
@@chopholtz4950 i wrote to arctic since they also claim their cooler (freezer 34 esports duo) is compatible with AM5, but it requires a custom backplate, and they said that it is compatible because the dimensions are the same for am4 and am5, and they didnt know about this backplate not being removable thing.
@kingsizemedal
@kingsizemedal Жыл бұрын
The main takeaway for me from all of this is: Noctua might be slightly more expensive, but they DO NOT fuck you over. I've had an NH-D14 since *2013* for my FX-8350, and they've since then sent me an Intel Xtreme mounting kit, an AM4 mountain kit, and even now an AM5 mounting kit. All free of charge. That in of itself is worth the extra $10-15 to me.
@CaptainMumpitz
@CaptainMumpitz Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Mike, just what I was waiting for. Hopefully you'll also find the time to actually check which line of coolers will be enough to keep the 90°c operating temperature without throttling.
@envirovore
@envirovore Жыл бұрын
As a Fuma 2 user that was interested in carrying it across to AM5 when I move to it, thank you.
@serkankocak
@serkankocak Жыл бұрын
Scythe US put out an article on their website that most of their current coolers (including both versions of the Fuma 2) are compatible with AM5. I used to work for a company with a similar strategy: We were supposed to deny any news until it was official because the decisions in the management were held back from the support team right until the day the official statement went public. So we sent e-mails to customers that something doesn't work at 8:59 AM, the news went live at 9:00 AM, and the support team was officially informed many hours or days later so we had to check the public news in the meantime. So I would never blame the support team of a company.
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks Жыл бұрын
Correct. I worked with them on that since they yanked all their AM5 compatibility info three days ago and then re-added it yesterday.
@mightstrikegaming8652
@mightstrikegaming8652 Жыл бұрын
The Noctua NH-U12A mounts fine on the new AMD cpus - installed it this morning on a 7700x
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
Congrats to AMD, same mounting clips since socket 754! We should try testing some vintage 2004-2006 coolers, there were some wild ones :)
@TheRealSkeletor
@TheRealSkeletor Жыл бұрын
I know Zalman made some excellent low-profile coolers with solid copper heatsinks back in the day. I'd love to see some of those tried out on the new platform!
@ViXoZuDo
@ViXoZuDo Жыл бұрын
The mounting clips are the same, but the hole position was not the same with all the gens... I remember that AM3 and AM4 was not compatible.
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealSkeletor they don't use clips :|
@mattscomp
@mattscomp Жыл бұрын
Now I'm wondering about using a Zalman CNPS7700 from 2005 hahaha. Still new unused!
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
@@mattscomp yeah I had one, it is so iconic!
@bluej511
@bluej511 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I believe my techn waterblock should work with am5. It comes with a backplate but the screw threads are identical to the am4/5 backplate and it threaded in no problem. P.S. if you ever wanna truly test mounting pressure, buy some pressure paper, it works incredibly well. I used it when doing my 4690k direct die mounting.
@Dark25Makabo
@Dark25Makabo Жыл бұрын
you tried? I am interested in knowing if it is compatible with AMD RYZEN AM5
@genos89
@genos89 Жыл бұрын
Does the screw compatible from the am4 bracket to the am5 bracket?
@UhOhUmm
@UhOhUmm Жыл бұрын
Scythe put out a news post on the US website on the 29th saying that Fuma 2 and 2 rev b are compatible. My guess is that the reps that work in support simply do not know anything about computers and gave the wrong answers.
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks Жыл бұрын
Correct. However, a few days ago they also yanked all the "AM5 Compatibility" images and information in the specs from all their existing coolers. They were re-added in the last 24 hours.
@RafitoOoO
@RafitoOoO Жыл бұрын
Or maybe the backlash was bigger than they expected so they stopped trying to mislead customers.
@FabioQuadrana
@FabioQuadrana Жыл бұрын
Great video, very clear. I have a Fuma 2 and I'm very happy with it, so sad that Scythe wrongly say that it's not AM5 compatible...
@unlimitedslash
@unlimitedslash Жыл бұрын
Good to know that my Fuma 2 will still work with AM5 if i ever have the need to upgrade. Amazing cooler, specially if you want something quiet.
@TheLoganRocha
@TheLoganRocha Жыл бұрын
Thank you Hardware Canucks for clearing up the confusion regarding AM5 cooler compatibility!
@kjdp8519
@kjdp8519 Жыл бұрын
I was worried for a moment there. I bought a fuma 2 rev b a while back because availability of this product in my country is atrocious I bought it before the am5 release. Good to hear that it can be mounted and doing a good job cooling the new chip.
@spm108
@spm108 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation, very useful. I'm curious what thermals you are seeing with the air cooler?
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks Жыл бұрын
Those are coming. In a VERY extensive video. Maybe too in-depth.
@spm108
@spm108 Жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks Awesome, looking forward to it! I'm really wondering if something like the noctua nh-d15 will make huge different over an AIO, not a fan of water cooling
@Physis_88
@Physis_88 Жыл бұрын
​@@spm108 No, there is no huge difference between e.g. Nh-D15 and AIO (under 5% diffrence in CB scores)
@frakerober9270
@frakerober9270 Жыл бұрын
godamn, this need to be "elevated" out there, great video as usual!
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@FahdRiyami
@FahdRiyami Жыл бұрын
This doesn't take AIOs into consideration, where there's even more confusion. Corsair have said that all their AM4 AIOs are compatible with the AM5 socket. NZXT on the other hand have said that while their X and Z AIO AM4 brackets fit on an AM5 socket, there are height differences that may result in gaps between the AIO and the CPU. As a result of this, they're supplying AM5-specific brackets to anyone that has an X|Z AIO who also purchased an AM5 motherboard. This isn't some Scythe scam as NZXT are burdening the expense and giving the AM5 brackets out for free. Their reasoning must be legitimate, otherwise, why go through the effort and cost. So, just because an AM4 cooler may fit on the AM5 socket, doesn't mean that the fit will be precise.
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks Жыл бұрын
That seems to be more of a manufacturing issue though because all of the Asetek-rebrands I've seen are 100% compatible (Corsair for example).
@blkspade23
@blkspade23 Жыл бұрын
The whole point in the extra thick IHS is so the height is that same as AM4. There is no logical reason it shouldn't work if it doesn't need a backplate.
@hendog323
@hendog323 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for nzxt to send out the am5 bracket for a week
@FahdRiyami
@FahdRiyami Жыл бұрын
@@hendog323 I applied for one on the 30th of September, I finally got my tracking number today.
@FahdRiyami
@FahdRiyami Жыл бұрын
@@blkspade23 That's what we've been told by AMD, hence the confusion surrounding why NZXT are sending out free AM5-specific brackets.
@RangerAmateur
@RangerAmateur Жыл бұрын
The thermalright AXP90 is actually compatible with the AM5 mobos with some nuances. The screws are actually small enough to pass through the screw holes of AM5's backplate if you are careful and patient enough. The cooler's backplate then will be able to sit on the existing backplate and then you fasten it up. Works pretty good at least on the B650I.
@mynio
@mynio Жыл бұрын
Noctua posted on their site: "Noctua confirms AM5 heatsink compatibility and announces free-of-charge upgrades for low-profile coolers and older heatsink models"
@itsdeonlol
@itsdeonlol Жыл бұрын
Noctua always has your back for situations like this!
@cmja09
@cmja09 Жыл бұрын
me watching this although I don't plan to upgrade from 5800X3D for a good decade, hmm yes, brilliant.
@solinvictus8
@solinvictus8 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for excellent sound quality of your videos. This is the only channel that I can listen to at my car without speakers popping and buzzing.
@lastsonofthewest2444
@lastsonofthewest2444 Жыл бұрын
Super helpful! My 7950X is here, get my X670E Asus ProArt in a few days, and my Noctua will work! The Fractal Torrent case is not kind to my AIO stable, so air coolers are a must, and I am super stoked to migrate off my "ANCIENT" 12900K! 🙂
@mullison1
@mullison1 Жыл бұрын
Why did you change to 7950x and not keep your 12900k or wait for 13900k? I am looking to buy 13900k.
@lastsonofthewest2444
@lastsonofthewest2444 Жыл бұрын
@@mullison1 I am sure I will buy the 13900k as well. Haven't had. Ryzen since a 3900k. I like the number of PcieE lanes on the AM,5, and I get to try PCIe 5 nvme soon. Intel a bit behind.
@seannewcomb7594
@seannewcomb7594 Жыл бұрын
Exciting stuff, I'm aiming to get the Asus ProArt and the 7900X and trying to air cool it. Upgrading from a 6700k xD
@lastsonofthewest2444
@lastsonofthewest2444 Жыл бұрын
@@seannewcomb7594 Finally have my 7950x and ProArt set up. On DaVinci Resolve Pro, renders and timeline performance are 5-10% better than my 12900K system. BUT, not sure vMix or OBS are as good. OBS is showing about 45% CPU utilization, and does drop frames while streaming, same RTX a4000 GPU. vMix is giving me higher CPU nd GPU utilization numbers, perhaps double. So, my only theory is the IGPU in the 7950x is not being used at all, YET! I would imagine some optimization will be needed. I am going to try the Intel 770 16 GB GPU in the former 12900k system, just to get a sense of how well those two Intel parts work in unison.
@SlimHaleyLP
@SlimHaleyLP Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the breakdown. Just upgraded from AM4 and was a little concerned with the compatibility on AM5. Great video!
@lilb391111
@lilb391111 Жыл бұрын
I was told by TT Customer Service for their TH360 ARGB AIO, "You would need to find a way to get that backplate off." since their site didn't have the the hardware needed for AM5 socket... I don't think they've realised that its not supposed to come off.
@Ilikeminecraft57
@Ilikeminecraft57 Жыл бұрын
TT moment.
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks Жыл бұрын
DO NOT do that. The pressure will be wrong.
@lilb391111
@lilb391111 Жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks I did not. I’m surprised they even told me that though! Crazy!
@mz3437
@mz3437 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. I was assembling an AM4 cooler onto an AM5 socket right now, and your video has been crucial :)
@YAAMW
@YAAMW Жыл бұрын
3:30 Yes, Jayztwocents said that Noctua coolers aren't compatible which is in stark contradiction to what Noctua themselves stated on their website. Basically, if your Noctua cooler was shipped with the AM4 mounting kit, you're good. If not, you'll need to contact Noctua so they can send you a mounting kit. The only exception being the L9 series coolers which REQUIRE the AM5 mounting kit
@bluej511
@bluej511 Жыл бұрын
Jayz2jokes def got it wrong lol. Noctua sent me an am4 kit for free when i got my x370 board, arrived quickly too. Even though I'm watercooled i still have the kit for my nh-u14s.
@rickss69
@rickss69 11 ай бұрын
Jayz did in fact say this, but shortly after in the same video admitted he was wrong and the Noctua would in fact work.
@rUmXz
@rUmXz Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to know my H150i cap can support AM5 and is so easy to install.
@45eno
@45eno 2 ай бұрын
8 of 9 of my AM4/AM5 are now on Noctua. Whenever an excellent deal came up local I would pick it up. $40 brand new D15’s. $30 U14S. U9S and D9L for $20. I only bought my first one U14S new for $63.75 in 2019. After that I just kept an eye out for them. There are other brands that work but the customer service sending me parts for free and well engineered mounting has sold me. 4x D15 2x U14S U9S D9L Thermalright Silver Soul 110 (D9L)
@mrmidnight32
@mrmidnight32 8 ай бұрын
I really hate that cooler master is charging 5€ for their adapters but charging $20 on Amazon for the same adapters stateside. I just bought a Peerless Assasin 210 for $30. So pissed since the cooler master was such a good cooler.
@teknonmy7210
@teknonmy7210 Жыл бұрын
lol I was worried about my cooler not being compatible and was starting to take apart my pc while watching this video, then you mentioned the Fuma 2, which is the exact cooler I've got.
@line_chill
@line_chill Жыл бұрын
I just bought an Id cooler it says it’s am4 and am5 compatible but the back plate don’t fit in the original spot the original back plate fix please any idea 😢
@offspringfan89
@offspringfan89 Жыл бұрын
Came from Reddit to say this was a great video, thanks for explaining it so clearly. AMD made the bad decision of making IHS thicc in order to make AM4 coolers compatible with AM5 in theory, but in practice the compatibility is very limited. I'd rather keep my Deepcool Gammax 400 V2, which uses a custom blackplate, and upgrade to a Ryzen 5000 instead of spending a lot of money on AM5 platform and a new cooler.
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, that makes sense about the Gammax 400 V2, especially when it comes to trying to save some money.
@With0utFace.
@With0utFace. Жыл бұрын
hey, good video but some additional notes, note every cooler without backplate is compatible, if cooler uses long mount clips, let’s call them “vertical” - it’s ok, but if cooler uses short “horizontal” mount clips it wont fit, because am5 socket is a bit shorter on horizontal mounting place. p.s. sorry if ny english is bad, not my main lang. thanks have a good day everyone
@hdz77
@hdz77 Жыл бұрын
I got the Deepcool LS720 AIO in White and worked right out of the Box with the AM5 mounting kit that it came with, and it keeps my Ryzen 9 7950X under 60c, its a amazing AIO that Deepcool made with the LS series and affordable.
@AdanFS
@AdanFS Жыл бұрын
When i got a new cooler (Mugen 5 black revC), i made sure it used the default AMD backplate for this reason specifically
@fiz1018
@fiz1018 Жыл бұрын
Is the deepcool ak620 compatible
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@RodimusPrime29
@RodimusPrime29 Жыл бұрын
I was just about to ask about the ak400 lol.... if you go to their website they have instructions on how you can receive the free mounting hardware kit.
@GATERISTIC
@GATERISTIC Жыл бұрын
👀Can't wait to see them tested on the 7600x or 7700x. Good video and to the point man.
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@zeustanbul
@zeustanbul Ай бұрын
Hyper 212 Evo (1st gen) on AM5 is possible I have managed to install my 10-year-old Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler on my new AM5 motherboard. I already had the old AM4 X-shaped movable bracket (RR-AM4B-H212-S1) and I tried to install the cooler with that initially, but I realized that the screw slots on the motherboard were too low to hold the cooler under the bracket. All the comments on the internet said that it’s not possible to install an old cooler on a new AM5 board, but I still wanted to try my luck. So, I bought the AMD AM5 Mounting Kit (603007170-GP) from a local shop (it might be the last one in stock in my whole country), which is basically just 4 screws that lift the original screw slots about 1 cm on the motherboard. It cost no more than 2 USD. I installed the 4 screws first and then the cooler with the X-bracket after a little bit of trial and error. It finally fastened enough without any movement at all. I tried it with some games and stress tests, and the CPU (7500F) temperatures didn’t exceed 77 degrees Celsius..
@poeticsilence047
@poeticsilence047 Жыл бұрын
I think after all this we know Scythe customer support lost points with Mike. Lol
@KRGraphicsCG
@KRGraphicsCG Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I kept my NH U14S around just for this
@BockworschtSoldier
@BockworschtSoldier Жыл бұрын
I have the Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black. It is good to know that I can use it in the future when I upgrade to AM5. I plan not to switch before Ryzen 8000 though. Maybe its then to weak for the cpu but time will tell.
@mboiko
@mboiko Жыл бұрын
When it comes to PC Coolers, Mike is The Man. This will only become MORE important moving forward as these new CPUs are going to be...putting out a lot of heat. Great job...
@Agm1995gamer
@Agm1995gamer Жыл бұрын
How come we do not press intel and amd to have the same cooler installation mechanisms so all coolers will always fit on all motherboards and cpu's without adapters?
@pumazz1089
@pumazz1089 Жыл бұрын
I have a Fuma 2 (OG) and saw that same post about AM5 not being compatible. Did a search to see if that was BS or not and thank you for putting my worries to bed. You're a hero!
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Mike, right to the point and you didn't miss anything :) PS I see something nice in the left corner ;)
@FlamingFox
@FlamingFox Жыл бұрын
Glad to see Fuma 2 is still compatible.
@Sonic6293
@Sonic6293 8 ай бұрын
Good to know, I had a L9a-AM4 from a SFFPC build I wanted to use in an AM5 build. I couldn't find my proof of purchase, but the conversion kit was like $8 on Amazon. Much better than $50.
@TheTerribleBear
@TheTerribleBear Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being very explicit about the retainer clips! I was searching all around for info about whether those brackets retainer clips were the same between AM4 and AM5 (needed to replace some I accidentally sold with the old MoBo)! Thanks again! Update: For anyone in my situation, needing to replace the cpu bracket clips above and below the cpu socket. I have an x670e and now can confirm from money wasted, that not all brackets are *not exactly* the same for us. The spacing between the screws on the frame don’t allow for the additional support built into a lot of stock AM4 CPU brackets clips. Not the part on the AIO, the part your AIO attaches to. I accidentally gave mine to a young person learning to build computers who needed spare parts and ordered on made for AM4 and while it fits in one direction, it doesn’t in the other and it’s the wrong way 😢. A lot of AM4 brackets seem to have a little flair of support. The AM5 bracket that came with my MoBo was slimmer and so now I’m trying to see if that kid still has my part because I can’t seem to find any online without it! This also makes me wonder if the two types of clip are actually different heights? Even if by millimeters I wonder if that would screw up your CPU? I’m replacing mine because despite everything else being ok, when I reused my Kraken on the AM5 CPU it died in two weeks. Coincidence?
@freshgrease
@freshgrease Жыл бұрын
You saved me $300. Thank you.
@raizenftw4543
@raizenftw4543 Жыл бұрын
This whole generational upgrade seems to be a hassle
@S2GUnit
@S2GUnit Жыл бұрын
I have a 2 year old Scythe FUMA Rev.B SCFM-1100 & everything worked perfectly fine except for the 4 screws that go on to the backplate. They are a little bit too short. Scythe just needs to mail out longer screws.
@mrmrmrcaf7801
@mrmrmrcaf7801 Жыл бұрын
You do not use the Fuma screws, use the AM5 screws that came with the board.I have a Fuma 2 and it works without a problem at R7 7700x
@S2GUnit
@S2GUnit Жыл бұрын
@@mrmrmrcaf7801 My Fuma Rev. B screws were too short. I had to buy a Noctua AM5 adapter kit for 15$ which included 4 new screws.
@Thatlamekiddom
@Thatlamekiddom Жыл бұрын
Dude this video was awesome because I couldn’t get a straight answer for Fuma 2 support
@sergtrav
@sergtrav Жыл бұрын
Scythe Mugen 5 rev. B is compatible.
@IndieAuthorX
@IndieAuthorX Жыл бұрын
My Noctua seems to be doing just fine with the 7950x.
@davidgunawan1582
@davidgunawan1582 22 сағат бұрын
Wahh this vid is very helpfull for me and your explaination is just on point and very clear. many thanks Mike!
@tylerwingate1370
@tylerwingate1370 2 ай бұрын
Glad you made this video and I found it. I'm re-using the Fuma 2.
@MrSchafonator
@MrSchafonator Жыл бұрын
does the am4 cooolers perform just as good on am5? Cuz the chips look like thy have different proportions, doesnt that influence the area that connects to the heatsinks and therefore the cooling performance? Also big shout out to noctua for always providing free new mounting-kits!!!
@bluej511
@bluej511 Жыл бұрын
If they have a big mounting surface they should. I believe 7000 is like 3-5000 where the die is offset from the center so a truly flat cooler is incredibly beneficial.
@kiwimonster3647
@kiwimonster3647 Жыл бұрын
Better thermal transfer of ihs > semi compatibility with older coolers
@Matt-gf4gd
@Matt-gf4gd Жыл бұрын
Yeah I really don't get that decision
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Very interesting decision....
@blkspade23
@blkspade23 Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-gf4gd Well it is for the most part, one less forced cost. Everyone is already screaming about the cost of entry to the new platform. AMD's stock coolers, subpar or not, still work. The wraith stealth barely effects the performance of the 7600X. You could use the Prism on the higher models, and ECO mode isn't even that much of a hit. In my experience working in a computer repair shop, most 1st time builders did use them on AM4. Most of the people using computers aren't Us. The most popular after market coolers also work. Decent companies are offering free mounting kits. You just can't please everybody. I personally only use at least a NH-U12S on all the customs I built for people. I built 1 12600K ITX system that I tried to use the LH-9i-1700. It got hot enough to throttle, so I put the NH-D12L in there instead. It performed equally (mid 70s loaded and quiet) to the u12S I used on a 5900x in the same case. So the fact that AM5 isn't throttling at 95, makes the temp for them irrelevant. Intel would absolutely be throttling above 90c. Since that Intel build was primarily for Photoshop, I could've gotten away with the smaller cooler. It just didn't meet my standard. Especially when they might do some Premiere.
@agustingratt
@agustingratt Жыл бұрын
The Deepcool Assassin III is also compatible with AM5, no special adapters needed. You just flip the four included threaded metal/plastic pieces over, so that the black, plastic part faces the motherboard, and you're good to go.
@AdrianMuslim
@AdrianMuslim Жыл бұрын
Hi. Can you please tell me if DeepCool ASSASSIN III will cooler work on ASRock B650E PG Riptide motherboard or not?
@RickyMasterChiefLaw
@RickyMasterChiefLaw Жыл бұрын
Great for calling lazy companies bullshiting and making quick buck!
@turbokiller
@turbokiller Жыл бұрын
Thanks! :) After watching this I can confirm that the ROG RYUJIN II AIO series (240 & 360) are 100% compatible with AM5.
@cd4953
@cd4953 Жыл бұрын
So Cooler Master told me the AIO with the NR200P MAX is not compatible, but it doesn't have a custom backplate, so I would assume it works and it's just not "OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED". I guess Cooler Master gave me the BS company line when I asked?
@beasz1974
@beasz1974 Жыл бұрын
i have the NR200P MAX with a 5700x .. i bought the ML240L V2 RGB which is the SAME thing for my ryzen 7700x build and lian li case , and it is installed
@bits2646
@bits2646 Жыл бұрын
I wish someone would test AM4 compatible Threadripper coolers, I'm really curious how they perform on AM5...
@marcindunajski3545
@marcindunajski3545 Жыл бұрын
Noctua NH-L9x65 is low profile cooler. This one is using same bracket for AM4 and Intel LGA like U12 Redux with plastic spacers and screws to seize the metal frame...
@badhusband1902
@badhusband1902 Жыл бұрын
scythe has been like this for like 10 years and people are still buying their stuff. just brilliant guys.
@PsGetSid_
@PsGetSid_ Жыл бұрын
keep up great work, easy to understand your videos the way you explain:) best !
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@solidcopy2822
@solidcopy2822 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, was worried if my FUMA 2 will not compatible with my upgrades.
@dariusdumaplin6687
@dariusdumaplin6687 Жыл бұрын
Hello, is the amd wraith stealth cooler i got from the am4 platform work into the am5 platform?
@matthewyue1715
@matthewyue1715 5 ай бұрын
Hello @dariusdumaplin6687, may I know if it worked for you? Thanks!
@45eno
@45eno 2 ай бұрын
Yes I use a wraith stealth for quick test bench type stuff when I test out used parts on AM5. Remember to evenly screw it down.
@LogiForce86
@LogiForce86 Жыл бұрын
Just buy Noctua and you are set for life. I say that as an NH-D14 user. That is a CPU cooler that is over 1 decade old... +10 YEARS OLD! It's a cooler used in 2023 from 2009!!! 😁
@hasyidanparamananda
@hasyidanparamananda Жыл бұрын
Is there any list cooler with/without changing backplate?
@JustOneMoreRyan
@JustOneMoreRyan Жыл бұрын
FYI* Some waterblocks come with AM4 custom backplates but the backplates themselves use the same height posts and threads, 6-32. E.g., TechN AM4 Block. You can use that block with the stock backplate provided by AM4 motherboards or use their provided “custom” one. The only difference is the custom one is a) machined nicer and b) is a thicker gauge of aluminum. So the claim that EVERY AM4 cooler with custom backplates is incompatible with AM5 is WRONG. It’s case by case… ;)
@Druze_Tito
@Druze_Tito Жыл бұрын
Just when I thought I'd skip the 7000 series and keep my 5000 series because of the not so great of performance upgrade (in the departments where I am looking into). Now this just made me seal my decision. I don't plan on replacing my Arctic 280 Freezer for just 20% upgrade and pay 3x what I can charge for the old combo.
@TheRealSkeletor
@TheRealSkeletor Жыл бұрын
If you already have a 5800X3D, you're set for at least a few years. If you don't have one yet, it's become increasingly affordable and is the best CPU you can put on the AM4 platform (for gaming).
@Meesaa06
@Meesaa06 Жыл бұрын
Subscribing you brother.. first time here and I liked your video so much. even though I m not going to build am5 computer right now but the way you explain things (not just talk) is what I really liked. Keep doing it. Thanks 🙏
@johnmichaelcobangbang8425
@johnmichaelcobangbang8425 Жыл бұрын
almost bought a new. my arctic freezer duo fits. thank you!
@rmorenberg
@rmorenberg Жыл бұрын
great video. question is the am5 retention bracket an issue like intel's Z690 retention bracket?
@edwardmclean5373
@edwardmclean5373 Жыл бұрын
7:15 "Head them off at the pass?! I HATE that cliché!!!" - Hedley Lamarr (Blazing Saddles, 1974)
@reallybigjohnson
@reallybigjohnson Жыл бұрын
LOL well this settled it for me. Black Rock just uses a clip which takes 2 seconds to install versus replacing backplates.
@dactlysgadensis0309
@dactlysgadensis0309 3 ай бұрын
Hello, congratulations for your very useful video. Just one question: what material is the mat you used for assembly made of? I would like to buy one like yours, can you suggest the model and where to buy it online? thank you so much.
@spacy5896
@spacy5896 3 күн бұрын
i got told the blackridge should be duable with the thermal grizzly am5 backplate? can you confim that? or test it?
@outtaplace1698
@outtaplace1698 Жыл бұрын
Thank god man.... been trying to find a bracket that would work for the 212 black on am5 for weeks! you saved me a lot of trouble.
@Zeledonom
@Zeledonom 2 ай бұрын
Corsair fucked me over, they said it was am5 compatible water cooler, they gave me am4 plates that's supposed to hold it in, the holes aren't even aligned at all
@dwhutto
@dwhutto Жыл бұрын
5:00 this is wrong, the thermalright and blackridge can thread through the holes in the backplate and mount just fine for am5.
@m0rtl
@m0rtl Жыл бұрын
I´d rather AMD not keep AM4 cooler compatibility and instead make the IHS the right size......
@Get-Rekt
@Get-Rekt Жыл бұрын
indeed
@RexNathanChan
@RexNathanChan 4 ай бұрын
No plans to go AM5 but usefull to know 🙌🏻
@xblur17
@xblur17 Жыл бұрын
What is this weird expectation everyone has that a company should offer a free upgrade kit? Sure, some companies can and do go out of their way to offer that, but it costs them in development, production and shipping. I agree we should commend Arctic/Noctua for going the extra mile for customers, but the companies that choose not to do that should in no way be under fire. They never claimed that this product you bought will work for a different platform. What a bunch of entitled people, seriously.
@TheDolefish
@TheDolefish 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for clearing this up.
@OnikMod
@OnikMod Жыл бұрын
This is fucking insanity with coolers. AMD fucked up with it hard. I am still trying to find the right cooler fro ryzen r5 7600x. Thank you for the video. It was highly demanded.
@ricardoreis7298
@ricardoreis7298 Жыл бұрын
Damn, thanks Mike and H.Canucks for the video. And screw Scythe.
@syncmonism
@syncmonism Жыл бұрын
You obviously can't expect a cooler company to just give you new parts to make your old cooler fit... but if they want you to buy a whole new cooler, and they don't offer to sell you some kind of adapter kit, then you know that you should never buy anything from that company ever again.
@4n0nym0u5
@4n0nym0u5 Жыл бұрын
They actually do..... For free.
@bence1830
@bence1830 Жыл бұрын
Yep the cooler master 212 is not am5 compatible, only with an upgrade kit, which is out of stock. BAckplate is glued on on motherboards, if it would be simply removable the cooler could be installed
@roythunderplump
@roythunderplump Жыл бұрын
People have been raving about the Xilence M705D/ XC061 for AM5 cpu which is part of the bequiet group.
@mattscomp
@mattscomp Жыл бұрын
Very concise and well demonstrated. A very helpful video thanks 🙂
@williamworth2746
@williamworth2746 7 ай бұрын
running a custom water loop block on my 7900x had to thred the bolts throug the back plate but it works
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