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@AlexBoneChannel
@AlexBoneChannel Жыл бұрын
AMD in 2016: Hey we got a new socked called AM4. AMD in 2023: We have another new cpu for AM4.
@c-dub8639
@c-dub8639 Жыл бұрын
This is like if AM2 from 2006 had CPUs continue to release for it until 2013 and was competitive with Haswell. Imagine going from an athlon64 to a 4770k on the same socket!
@itsJPhere
@itsJPhere Жыл бұрын
AM4: "Hello, Cherie. We meet again. Is it fate? Is it meant to be? Is it written in the stars that we are destined to fraternize?"
@AlexBoneChannel
@AlexBoneChannel Жыл бұрын
@@c-dub8639 I have Asrock N68C-GS FX and that thing would accept any AM2, AM2+ and AM3 CPU, but also some AM3+ cpu's. So you could install a Athlon X2 3800+ from 2006 with DDR2 all the way up to a FX4300 from 2012 with DDR3. I got a Phenom X6 though because it is has 6 true cores.
@DesuVR
@DesuVR Жыл бұрын
The AM4 platform is like the Dodge Challenger, it's OLD but they keep making new 'models'.
@ssjaken
@ssjaken Жыл бұрын
The AMD CEO said during the AM5 keynote presentation that AM4 wasn't done and to expect more chips from them.
@Kclerie
@Kclerie Жыл бұрын
This is great news for the AM5 platform. If AMD treats AM5 with half the love they did for AM4, man.
@zeroturn7091
@zeroturn7091 Жыл бұрын
Hope that it doesn’t take as long to make a 7600X3D
@yahyasajid5113
@yahyasajid5113 Жыл бұрын
@@zeroturn7091 they'll need to accrue enough faulty 7800X3Ds for the 7600X3D to be commercially viable
@6r3ys0n
@6r3ys0n Жыл бұрын
Yeah hopefully AMDip actually fixes their trash architecture and fixes the memory controller and OC capability on their AM5 chips. It’s just not a good choice over intel because I don’t see any Ryzen platform running D5 8000mts and up @cl38 like me :) 4090/13900K = faster than anything AMDip could ever create. AMD is good for people who are okay with having slow systems. You know the type of people who can’t overclock and just turn on xmp and run with it without tightening timings and optimizing their hardware.
@BelaPuma
@BelaPuma Жыл бұрын
@6r3ys0n you do know that lower the cl the better , right? So what you just described here i wouldn't want that d5 for free , cl28 or nothing
@BelaPuma
@BelaPuma Жыл бұрын
@@6r3ys0n you just wait for 8000 series, apparently they're gonna have something equivalent to rtx 5110ti
@ArmoredStone
@ArmoredStone Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the 1600 AF chip. Man I built so many systems with the 1600 AF when it was available. $85 for the performance of a $120 2600 🥰
@lukewalker1051
@lukewalker1051 Жыл бұрын
I am watching this video on a 1600AF chip.
@MrCleonwarrior
@MrCleonwarrior Жыл бұрын
Those were the days. I remember the excitement waiting for the post in r/Buildapcsales
@kaseyboles30
@kaseyboles30 Жыл бұрын
I handed off my 1600af to buddy still on a 8630 A couple years ago when I upgraded to a 3900x. He later upgraded his rx560 to a 6600.
@badatpc
@badatpc Жыл бұрын
I just upgraded from a 1600AF to a 5700x. Wish I waited a few more days haha
@BelaPuma
@BelaPuma Жыл бұрын
@@badatpc 5900x go by 200$ these days yknow
@ynie1
@ynie1 Жыл бұрын
Great to see creative ways AMD is recycling parts. Hopefully AMD makes a profit from this and other companies can follow suit.
@quandingleberry445
@quandingleberry445 Жыл бұрын
it dont matter.
@robertkohler4173
@robertkohler4173 Жыл бұрын
decades ago I was part of AMI (another IC manufacture of bygone days), and we had the same opportunity to do the recycling and did so. Oddly we made more money for selling parts that were considered 'defective' from the original specification, then we made from the original chips. But as with the 5600x3d, it was a very situational. Normally lost opportunity costs make the time used to find those 'defective' chips not worth the profit that can be made in retesting and marketing the reclaimed chips.
@LilTachanka
@LilTachanka Жыл бұрын
@@quandingleberry445 h o w
@quandingleberry445
@quandingleberry445 Жыл бұрын
@@LilTachanka greedy companies will forever be greedy companies.
@Magnulus76
@Magnulus76 Жыл бұрын
They've been doing this for years. the 1600 and 3600 were "recycled" in this manner.
@SentaDuck
@SentaDuck Жыл бұрын
I think a big part of this release is to instil confidence in the longevity of the AM5 platform.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
am4 not dead😃
@XGARBAGExBO2
@XGARBAGExBO2 Жыл бұрын
If they get the 7800x3d breaking motherboards figured out I'm absolutely buying one
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
@@XGARBAGExBO2 they will just be patient
@bingchilling177
@bingchilling177 Жыл бұрын
​@@raven4k998bro what are these emojis, I can't find them on my mobile's keyboard.
@Hugh_I
@Hugh_I Жыл бұрын
@@XGARBAGExBO2 The 7800X3Ds aren't breaking any motherboards. The CPUs work as intended. It's some (mostly ASUS) motherboards which are frying the CPU and themselves, because they pump out of spec VSOC voltage into them.
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar Жыл бұрын
To be fair, they did say AM4 wasn't dead when they launched AM5. They said they still had some SKU's left to release. I guess this is the first (last?). Also kind of sucks that this is a single retailer only thing, this would have been a nice CPU for my friends new budget build.
@PowellCat745
@PowellCat745 Жыл бұрын
I think there just aren’t enough units in stock to be sold across different retailers.
@1Grainer1
@1Grainer1 Жыл бұрын
gamers nexus made a vid about that, he claims there wasn't enough waste for it to be global launch (microcenter estimated 3-6months of supply)... and if you consider that you'd have to split whole stock to many more retailers, countries etc... then i'd expect 3-12 days max of availbility, so i kinda doubt you'd be able to get your hands on one without hunting it, and scalping would increase it to 5800x3d price most probably or something so i think it was the best decision to be made
@robertmccracken6930
@robertmccracken6930 Жыл бұрын
​@@PowellCat745That's what I was thinking. It sounds like AMD was like hey we have these 5800X3D's with failed silicon... Hey Micro Center you're expanding, want an exclusive?
@bubba966
@bubba966 Жыл бұрын
Yeah everyone either has forgotten or never noticed that when AM5 launched they said that AM4 wasn't done. This is the obvious result of another new AM4 CPU as it's the easy to produce CPU that fills a hole in the AM4 CPU lineup
@Hugh_I
@Hugh_I Жыл бұрын
I'm from europe, and must say I'm not salty about this. Remember the 3100 / 3300X CPUs? They were the same thing, and they sold them globally. They were sold out pretty much instantly and impossible to get, because they had the same limitation of being leftover scrap dies that didn't make it to higher bins. It makes sense for AMD to just not bother distributing them everywhere, if they can't supply enough anyways.
@MadStyle1911
@MadStyle1911 Жыл бұрын
i am sticking with AM4 as long as i can, because i am not buying new memory just to upgrade to AM5.
@DaysofKnight
@DaysofKnight Жыл бұрын
New memory and a new motherboard, for potentially the chance to get a motherboard that over volts and fries your CPU
@sketchy2740
@sketchy2740 Жыл бұрын
Yeah i was so close to pulling the trigger on a full am5 x3d build when they started blowing up, ended up just jamming a 5800x3d, 32gb of ddr4 which was cheap af, and a 4070ti in my am4 platform and its fukn sweet
@SeventhCircle77
@SeventhCircle77 Жыл бұрын
@@DaysofKnightAsus moment
@davidbrennan5
@davidbrennan5 Жыл бұрын
The new DDR5 ram has horrible timings.
@DaysofKnight
@DaysofKnight Жыл бұрын
@@davidbrennan5 Give it a few years, it'll get better. RAM improvements in clock speeds for new generations always result in shitty timings. They improve as the design improves. DDR4 had bad timings compared to DDR3, but they slowly came down to something reasonable.
@foxboi6309
@foxboi6309 Жыл бұрын
Too bad it'll be nearly impossible (if not outright impossible) for people not in the US to get their hands on that chip
@Dizastermaster.
@Dizastermaster. Жыл бұрын
Better for me
@NightFoxZero
@NightFoxZero Жыл бұрын
I mean it’s hard enough for people in the US to get them too lol
@jamesm568
@jamesm568 Жыл бұрын
eBay is your friend.
@Napert
@Napert Жыл бұрын
@@jamesm568 i don't want to spend $700 before all the import taxes (which often cost more than the product itself) for this chip
@jamesm568
@jamesm568 Жыл бұрын
@@Napert that's why you don't waste your time with these budget CPUs. Get a second hand 3900XT.
@Beltonius
@Beltonius Жыл бұрын
Companies frequently hold stock back specifically for warranty that they don't consider part of their sales inventory. They should have a very good idea of failure rates over the warranty period, so it should be straightforward to have enough parts on hand, especially given the effectively limited release of these. Or they could just ship 5800X3D as a replacement part once warranty stock runs out.
@mafcarvalho
@mafcarvalho Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. If their held back units for RMAs run out of stock, they won't have trouble sending a 5800X3D out. I had an Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 that needed way too much juice to run stable and Intel Europe offered me QX9770 as a replacement. Approx. 300€ more expensive CPU for free.
@bogartwilley
@bogartwilley Жыл бұрын
If someone buys the 5600x3d and it dies then they serve it back only for amd to be like "here's more power for your troubles" would be a straight giga Chad move from AMD
@ChewieBabyTW
@ChewieBabyTW Жыл бұрын
Still loving my 5800x3d....works beautifully.
@JS-wz3km
@JS-wz3km Жыл бұрын
Loss leader items work if it increases your door traffic because a percentage of your traffic are sales. There is a little more to it, but it is the basic idea.
@timdineen6491
@timdineen6491 Жыл бұрын
I have an 5800X3D with a 4090 (yes, a bit overkill) for no compromise 4K / 120 fps gaming on an LGC2 42. It's an awesome setup. Economy in CPU/Motherboard/RAM allowed me to go all out on GPU.
@valentine943
@valentine943 9 ай бұрын
5800X3D is economy??? 😭😭😭
@mikerelf
@mikerelf Жыл бұрын
Kind of a shame that this is such a limited launch - would've been an interesting choise for those still on AM4. I've ~just~ upgarded to 5800x3D myself, but I could see the value in this one. Oh well
@marcust478
@marcust478 Жыл бұрын
If we try to keep up with all and everything of this industry we end up crazy, depressed and broke. Be happy with the 5800x3D, bro! It's a beast! 🙌
@mikerelf
@mikerelf Жыл бұрын
@@marcust478 Oh I'm more than happy with it, but I have some friends who are still on AM4 (or even older) and this would've been a very compelling choise. But then again, 5600x (base one) is still a king for budget builds, so ^^
@-Lie_be
@-Lie_be Жыл бұрын
I think it would be better to switch to AM5 if you're on an older AM4 chip and looking to upgrade, just cus it's gonna be future proof
@petrolhead0387
@petrolhead0387 Жыл бұрын
@@mikerelf I wish I waited for that chip, I upgraded to a 5900X just before the 5800X3D was launched. I'm still happy with my purchase and will probably wait another year before upgrading to AM5, maybe wait for next gen and snatch a 7900X3D used.
@shadow7037932
@shadow7037932 Жыл бұрын
The fabs shoot to optimize the yields. So 5800X3Ds wafers should mostly be turned in to the intended 5800X3D CPUs as TSMC has optimized their manufacturing. They probably have low amount of usable rejected dies that could be turned in to a 5600X3D.
@JerrySpringfield1
@JerrySpringfield1 Жыл бұрын
I'm not entirely sure Micro Center actually exists. I believe it's just a made up thing we tell others to give them hope about buying reasonably priced PC hardware.
@reamoinmcdonachadh9519
@reamoinmcdonachadh9519 Жыл бұрын
If the cost of the raw material going into making one of these is becoming an issue, I fully expect more of this kind of thing, and perhaps a new line of SKU and platforms and form factors to accommodate them. A whole new market of 'new' recycled SKU's.
@welchianachi7707
@welchianachi7707 Жыл бұрын
That recycling silicon thing reminds me DREDD movie where they recycled even food.
@demonfox51321
@demonfox51321 Жыл бұрын
​@welchianachi7707 I mean chunky cheese did that until they got called out lol
@VavrMar
@VavrMar Жыл бұрын
I believe material is a fraction of price. Designers and SW engineering will be imo prevalent.
@AnthonyRBlacker
@AnthonyRBlacker Жыл бұрын
Also, I run my 5800x3d at -30 offset in PBO and my max temps are down around 20c, it does hit about 88c on prime 95 however it stays at 4.5ghz. I have not seen my cpu throttle due to temps at all. That's great!
@KingJojoB
@KingJojoB Жыл бұрын
If you didn’t come from tiktok raise your hand 🤚🏽
@jpnkyari
@jpnkyari Жыл бұрын
TT is for losers tbh.
@akosponcsak
@akosponcsak Жыл бұрын
🤚
@superflyguy4488
@superflyguy4488 Жыл бұрын
👐
@superflyguy4488
@superflyguy4488 Жыл бұрын
Never played Ticktock, IG or Twitter.
@thejones1213
@thejones1213 Жыл бұрын
🖐
@tj_2701
@tj_2701 Жыл бұрын
Steve at GN who I guess is helping MC with the PR aspect of this launch, said they work in a MB with 5800X3D support but will probably need an update to optimize specifically for the 5600X3D
@sammiller6631
@sammiller6631 Жыл бұрын
How did Steve at GN get the scoop before everyone?
@jrksoldierx1436
@jrksoldierx1436 Жыл бұрын
Welp looks like i'm going to have to do another bios update at some point lol, my am4 board has had like 16 bios updates since launch
@Shunpon77
@Shunpon77 Жыл бұрын
I think this is great even if it is limited run because it recycles products that would have been thrown out. Limited availability makes sense. If anyone complains about it then they are being unrealistic to the limitations of this. The product was basically made 2x so the profit margin must be slim.
@The_Twisted_Monk
@The_Twisted_Monk Жыл бұрын
Really glad AM4 still has a new CPU to bring to the table. An in store exclusive... Hasn't happened in awhile, interesting. I'll be checking out Micro Center here soon.
@scarecrow5848
@scarecrow5848 Жыл бұрын
apparently its only in 1 microcenter store, so you might not have alot of luck there sadly.
@The_Twisted_Monk
@The_Twisted_Monk Жыл бұрын
@@scarecrow5848 😥
@PostWin
@PostWin Жыл бұрын
@@scarecrow5848Source? Jay himself that it will spread out to all Microcenters
@--_DJ_--
@--_DJ_-- Жыл бұрын
@@scarecrow5848 Where did you hear that?
@scarecrow5848
@scarecrow5848 Жыл бұрын
@@--_DJ_-- I believe it was Gamers Meld or some other news outlet, it could have been wrong though.
@Catbattle
@Catbattle Жыл бұрын
Cool move by AMD. Saves e-waste, gives new life to am4 users, and rejuvenates faith in the am5 socket's longevity. Hard to go wrong with team red right now. I suspect their plan for RMA's is to either eat the hit and upgrade people to 5800X3Ds as necessary, or to save any more 5800X3Ds that have RMA or warranty issues as 5600X3D backup stock.
@ElijsDima
@ElijsDima Жыл бұрын
Seems like a pretty good way to get some utility out of slightly sub-spec 5800X3D chips. And for AM4 users, could be a good "cheap last update" to move on from like a 3600 without changing a platform. I do wish the 5800X3D was more affordable and widespread... I ended up just getting a 5700x at like half the price last year.
@corbinknight9702
@corbinknight9702 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are therapy. I watch them on down time at work(blue dc ;) ). Keep doing what your doing. Your killing it!
@cidiracing7481
@cidiracing7481 Жыл бұрын
Good to see stuff not just ending up on landfills and being used in other ways. I just replaced my 10 year old PC with a new AM5 rig and the prices aren't too bad (outside of GPUs). Was about 1000 for a 7600, x670e board, 32gb RAM, 1tb nvme, 850w PSU, case, CPU tower cooler and a couple of fans.
@Anankin12
@Anankin12 Жыл бұрын
Why the X670E with a 7600? Wouldn't a B650E or even a non-E one with a 7700 have been better? Not criticizing, just curious
@cidiracing7481
@cidiracing7481 Жыл бұрын
@Anankin12 They had one off by 140 bucks, so they gap was considerably less than usual. In the end the difference was only 70 bucks. That should also be more than enough future proofing for any upgrades down the line. A 7700 was one of the options as well yes. But even with the 7600 I have a GPU bottleneck since I'm running a 2070. So I ended up going with the 7600. Down the line I will probably upgrade then directly to a later X3D one.
@dangingerich2559
@dangingerich2559 Жыл бұрын
The 5800X is now going for $189.99 at Microcenter. I'm not sure which of the two, the 5600X3D or the 5800X, would perform better.
@SteezinBreezin
@SteezinBreezin Жыл бұрын
5600X3D would in games. 5800x in productivity
@dayvid589
@dayvid589 Жыл бұрын
I love how frequently you guys are putting out videos; and they're all about different stuff. you guys are killing it.
@michaeljaystaufferjoyce7235
@michaeljaystaufferjoyce7235 Жыл бұрын
I upgraded my PC a few months ago, I went from a Ryzen 9 3900X to a 5800X3d as I was doing more gaming than production. I'm glad I'm able to get another couple years out of my build just swapping in a better cpu.
@michaelw2263
@michaelw2263 Жыл бұрын
I really like the concept of a 5600X3D, personally. So it would be super cool if they offered a 7600X3D. But I know it's a limited production thing, so I can only hope.
@_khayjeet_
@_khayjeet_ Жыл бұрын
Let 7800X3D production roll for a year more and there might be enough defective cpu's to come up with a lower recycled model.
@shadowwolf2608
@shadowwolf2608 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see that AM4 isn't dead. I would love to see the AM4 G sku' CPUs get a PCIE 4 version so you can use PCIE 4 drives and GPUs on while still having the emergency IGPU.
@michaelkimmey8182
@michaelkimmey8182 Жыл бұрын
Maybe AMD is testing the market to see if they should have made a 7600X3D rather than 2 different Ryzen 9 X3D chips since I have a feeling they didn't sell to well
@nightshadelenar
@nightshadelenar Жыл бұрын
honestly, they'd probably sell more 7600X3D's than the whole ryzen 9 X3D stack has sold so far. way better value where it's needed for all of that cache, even if it's only 72MB L3 over 32MB.
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Жыл бұрын
I don't really see the point of a budget AM5 cpu because the mobos and ram are so expensive compared to am4
@TAMAMO-VIRUS
@TAMAMO-VIRUS Жыл бұрын
@@squidwardo7074 It's because the motherboards and RAM are so expensive that a budget AM5 CPU makes sense
@gerthddyn
@gerthddyn Жыл бұрын
@@squidwardo7074 That's been changing pretty fast lately. There are decent $140 motherboards now and DDR5 has been coming down fast as well. HUB did a huge overview of all the B650 boards that they had been testing over the past 6 or so months. A 7600X3D would end up destroying a lot of the competition and for many rendering the 7800X3D pointless if it were at all decently priced.
@mikeelek9713
@mikeelek9713 Жыл бұрын
You have a feeling? That doesn't really mean much.
@Heavens_Rejected
@Heavens_Rejected Жыл бұрын
3:03 Took the words right out of my Canadian mouth...
@Mr402TA
@Mr402TA Жыл бұрын
I'm curious to see how it would rate against the 5900x or 5950x.
@IceSki117
@IceSki117 Жыл бұрын
Stuff like this makes me miss having a Fry's Electronics only a few hours away in Pheonix, Arizona.
@YOEL_44
@YOEL_44 Жыл бұрын
You kidding me, those are not RMA CPUs, those are faulty as in, they did not pass the internal tests, so they're not compliant for a higher end SKU. They where never returned from final customers, they never left the factory.
@RatikusuCh
@RatikusuCh Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about scheduling a trip to fill it in one of my incomplete builds. I own systems with a both a 5800X3D and a 5600X, so I might as well grab this for another good PC to run my heavily CPU bound games.
@xDarkFPS
@xDarkFPS Жыл бұрын
Would be great if you make a video about Undervolt 5800x3D. I currently set my undervolt to -25% voltage and with that I've droped my temps by 13°c and gained 4% points on cinebench, because it will boost higher.
@germanmade1219
@germanmade1219 Жыл бұрын
better to use PBO and curve optimizer than straight up undervolt. Set to -30 and win. No further tweaking needed.
@onyachamp
@onyachamp Жыл бұрын
​@@germanmade1219 -30 all cores 125 75 110
@mysticdre321
@mysticdre321 Жыл бұрын
The 5600X3D is the same silicon as the 5800x3D, but not good enough to make 8 cores,(not RMA or Defective parts).As per Steve GN
@lpz123
@lpz123 Жыл бұрын
The ship of 5600x3D 😂
@Jason_Bover9000
@Jason_Bover9000 Жыл бұрын
I think its only in micro center
@spoomples990
@spoomples990 Жыл бұрын
I'm Enjoying the more frequent Phil and Nick additions, Shows growth as a channel to be more comfortable moving from a one man show front. (though I know they've always been there behind the curtains)
@twisterchad
@twisterchad Жыл бұрын
I have so many thoughts on this lol. Not only is it a smart play from AMD and Microcenter. It forces consumers to go to the store. No bots needed to scalp em which is irony coming from a tech company. The warranty guarantee is a trade off from being recycled parts (smart in and of itself) but the limited runs make it almost collectable, especially if the price is right. The 5800x3D was highly favored right? They look about the same to me lol. Kinda reminds me of the 3300x that never really made it mainstream but if you had one and got it for the MSRP, it was supposedly a hell of a little cpu. Curious to see how well this thing does, especially since I never got to test a 5800XD, but what a play by AMD
@spikey2740
@spikey2740 Жыл бұрын
Within the last week I tried to buy some components from the nearest Micro Center, almost 300 miles away. There was no way to have them delivered, and I certainly was NOT about to travel there for anything. I purchased elsewhere from a supplier willing to ship to me. And will do the same in the future.
@pdegan2814
@pdegan2814 Жыл бұрын
I loved my 5600X when I had it, that thing was a solid gaming cpu and VERY easy to keep cool. I'll be very curious to see how the X3D version performs.
@zeroturn7091
@zeroturn7091 Жыл бұрын
Looks like they down clocked it.
@puffyips
@puffyips Жыл бұрын
@@zeroturn7091to keep it stable with all that cache
@tj_2701
@tj_2701 Жыл бұрын
Because of the low volume it was sounding like the 5600X3D was going to be OEM only, I'm glad it's not. DIY is more likely to make good use of it as opposed to someone picking up a cheap HP/Dell computer that doesn't even game.
@thefreakhouse
@thefreakhouse Жыл бұрын
I don’t go to MicroCenter until September but I’m hoping they will still have stock, gonna be a nice upgrade
@nicolasrangel295
@nicolasrangel295 Жыл бұрын
Literally just walked out of a micro center this morning with a 5800x3d. Still no complaining
@pdamasco
@pdamasco Жыл бұрын
I would like to see them restock them occasionally depending on how many 5800x3d chips fail to meet specs during production. Maybe they can refill inventory every 6 months or they can just keep the new failed 5800x3ds that pass validation to be a 5600x3d in inventory for RMAs and warranty issues.
@thespacedpirate
@thespacedpirate Жыл бұрын
Amd keeping am4 alive rn is feeling like GM still producing fresh 350 small blocks in 2023 and i love it.
@dragonman910
@dragonman910 Жыл бұрын
Despite it being exclusive to one retailer, it's good to see that they chose micro center so that people can get as good a deal as possible.
@David-yx3bd
@David-yx3bd Жыл бұрын
I'm more of an Intel/Nvidia type of guy these days, but I was all AMD for the first decade of my PC building, and this is very cool to see. Love to see them providing further life for the AM4 platform, and just figuring out something to do with all those chips. I wouldn't worry too much about the warranty, the way it works is you say you intend to sell 1000 products, and you foresee a possible failure of up to 20 of them (2%), you make sure you have at least 50 (5%) on hand to cover that "acceptable failure rate". The only time a warranty can really just go terrible is if there are failures outside of the acceptable rate by a massive margin.
@ZackSNetwork
@ZackSNetwork Жыл бұрын
The only problem with this is AMD is charging way to much for it. The 5600x3d should be $160. It’s a last generation 6 core 12 thread CPU and also doesn’t have an integrated graphics either. Why pay $230 for this it’s a complete rip off?
@localbraddah07
@localbraddah07 Жыл бұрын
A great move by AMD for us AM4 owners that want to upgrade from an earlier AM4 CPU!
@iequalsnoob
@iequalsnoob Жыл бұрын
and only a handful of people will be able to own them
@chadhartsees
@chadhartsees Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the 90's strategy of the "OverDrive" SKUs Intel released. The customer gives you their upgrade money to keep their old platform computer going and, later, will likely give you their "whole new computer" money when they finally upgrade their platform later - instead of *just* getting their platform upgrade money further down the road. I think it's a good way to make 1 customer turn into a customer again. That is, of course, if these are sensibly priced for people to upgrade vs. just buying an AM4 platform as a low cost build.
@DaemonForce
@DaemonForce Жыл бұрын
Warranty will most likely be 5600X3D being auto-filled with remaining 5800X3D SKUs. I would be tempted to go out and get this all because my 3600 is getting kinda long in the tooth but good. A 5600X3D would be a mad gaming/encoding/streaming chip and possibly an outstanding overclocker in the wrong board.
@nukedathlonman
@nukedathlonman Жыл бұрын
AM4 reminds me of Socket 7/Super 7. I really hope AM5 is going to age like AM4 did.
@CodeMonkeX
@CodeMonkeX Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought. They are just offloading 5800X3D's by clock limiting them and turning off some cores.
@--_DJ_--
@--_DJ_-- Жыл бұрын
That is not what they are doing at all, these are chips with problems that made them not good enough for 5800X3Ds. It makes no sense for them to kneecap perfectly good 5800x3ds.
@falcie7743
@falcie7743 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be too worried about warranty support. If they're still making any 5800X3D chips then there will be some that fail validation. I'm sure they'll hold some back from that stock for warranty.
@justhereforgear3441
@justhereforgear3441 Жыл бұрын
I'm interested to see the benchmarks , this could be super interesting.
@charlesbuchanan3146
@charlesbuchanan3146 Жыл бұрын
I think AMD is doing this to test the waters to see if there is a market for something like a 7600x3d
@SubzeroBlack68
@SubzeroBlack68 Жыл бұрын
Screw it I am gonna get one. Was gonna upgrade my 2700X to a 5800X3d. But I live 30mins away from a Micro Center and this is just such a fun and great way to eliminate E-Waste.
@onomatopoeia162003
@onomatopoeia162003 Жыл бұрын
update bios when it's out :)
@SegaEnt67
@SegaEnt67 Жыл бұрын
wish they would release the 12 and 16 core 59XXx3d they have running in the labs at Amd
@joshuapicarello
@joshuapicarello Жыл бұрын
I mean AMD did experiment with even the 5900x using 3D V-Cache, so it's safe to assume there will be a 5900X3D at some future point. Which would be amazing, since the 5800X3D competes with the 13600k, and the 13900k in a few titles. So the gains would be rather substantial, I would hope.
@pengu6335
@pengu6335 Жыл бұрын
13900K seems like a stretch. I agree with you saying the 13600k, however.
@joshuapicarello
@joshuapicarello Жыл бұрын
@pengu6335 in only a few games, the 5800X3D is within 5-8 frames of the 13900k. Just a few.
@pengu6335
@pengu6335 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuapicarello Yeah, still worth mentioning.
@DeckDogs4Life
@DeckDogs4Life Жыл бұрын
The closest Microcenter to me is about 2 and a half hours away from me. I really wish they'd open one closer. It's a wonderful place.
@R3TR0ACTIV
@R3TR0ACTIV Жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in Canada this release was exciting till it was stated microcenter only. I get wanting to have exclusivity deals but having it USA only is annoying.
@All_I_can_say_is_Wow
@All_I_can_say_is_Wow Жыл бұрын
I'm still on AM4 and I'm not exactly suffering. I don't even have a 5800X3D. I have an old 5900X. That 5600X3D looks like a good choice for gaming. If I was a content creator or using my rig for AI I would upgrade but then again if that was the case I wouldn't have AMD in the 1st place. Cheers.
@davidwiley4953
@davidwiley4953 Жыл бұрын
For the warranty, the will have a theoretical failure rate and hold back just enough to cover/replace those but if they do run out due to higher than expected failure, my guess would be to replace with 5800X3D. A bean counter would have done the math on this already.
@MrEricmopar
@MrEricmopar Жыл бұрын
Frys and all our other electronics supplies have gone under in Las Vegas. I wish Micro Center would open a location here in Southern Nevada.
@BronzedTube
@BronzedTube Жыл бұрын
aww im in eastern canada and I actually want this cpu.
@TheTaurus104
@TheTaurus104 Жыл бұрын
The 5600x3D is not a recycled 5800X3D. The 3DV Cache is in Production the last part, put it on the pcb and connecting with the Die itself. So the 5600X3D is more a pimped 5600 non X.
@AdmV0rl0n
@AdmV0rl0n Жыл бұрын
Some of the AMD oddball chips are fun. The 3300x and so on. I'm glad they do it. Its good to see a stuff being used rather than thrown out.
@prinzseptimii9660
@prinzseptimii9660 Жыл бұрын
i still have a 3300x lol
@mRibbons
@mRibbons Жыл бұрын
AM4 just keeps on giving! Been driving the zen 5 3600 for years, so I'm m very interested. Microcenter is just 90 miles away from me!
@captainshiner42
@captainshiner42 Жыл бұрын
I had ZERO idea that Microcenter have that few locations. The weirder thing is that at least 2 of them are within 15 miles to me. I'm in St. Louis.
@csl750
@csl750 Жыл бұрын
This is just awesome... This is what these manufacturers should be doing
@Kapono5150
@Kapono5150 Жыл бұрын
So glad I got the 7900X when it went on sale for 349. Had to lower the core voltage a lot but really been enjoying it so far.
@VoldoronGaming
@VoldoronGaming Жыл бұрын
I don't think these are RMA'D 5800X3D but instead 5800X3D with 1 or 2 defective cores from manufacturing.
@kernelpickle
@kernelpickle Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget they came up with those crazy wheels that worked like decoder rings for their naming scheme moving forward. They were gonna start mixing and matching parts from generations by the sound of it, and I wouldn’t be surprised if AM4 gets all the scraps moving forward. Maybe some of these current Gen AM5 CPUs are going to fail to meet the specs for AM5, but the fact that chiplets can be placed onto substrates that work with either platform, means that they might come up with a budget GPU for AM4 that has newer cores. They might not, but they have the option, and if they wanted to move a Quad Core CPU with crazy fast cores, or a huge amount of cache, they could move it a lot faster on AM4 than AM5 because of the existing install base. I think AMD would be silly to abandon a mature platform like AM4 when it could be used to liquidate factory second silicon faster than their latest AM5 platform. This keeps the AM5 as premium, which AM4 becomes their budget friendly option. If I’m right and they continue to do this kind of stuff, it’s a brilliant way to save money and make eWaste a viable product. I wouldn’t worry as much about the warranty, because silicon that is gonna fail will fail quickly or last for longer than the boards it sockets into. Considering that these have already failed in some way means that the weakest part of them has already been culled. Now I’m not saying these will be flawless, but I’d bet the failure rate is actually lower than a typical CPU product from AMD, and they can probably offer upgrades to 5800X3D or credit towards another purchase if they do fail a second time. Can’t wait to see how they perform, because the price makes me wonder if it meets or beats the new 7600 CPUs.
@TexasCat99
@TexasCat99 Жыл бұрын
I'm 18mins from a Microcenter. Love their store! CPU+Mobo combos = the best! One of the killer deals of Microcenter are RAM the bundles! $628 = 7950X3D (16 core) $540 = 7950X (16 core) $520 = 7900X3D (12 core) $420 = 7800X3D (8 core) The best deal is the 7950X3D since it includes 32GD DDR5 6000Mhz by G.Skill, $110 savings. So it becomes a $518 deal in a sense. (The others are -$20 off mobo) - Not sure if the -$20 off mobo applies with free memory. $630 for 7900X3D once you buy the memory vs $628 with the 7950X3D. Makes a person wonder ($100 more to double the cores over the 7800X3D)
@serena-yu
@serena-yu Жыл бұрын
It's so exclusively microcenter that it's not being sold at all outside the US. For instance, there's no such CPU existing here in Australia.
@muhammadaiman9338
@muhammadaiman9338 Жыл бұрын
I like "dead" platform (at least one gen previous )..the bios is more stable, lots of reviews and troubleshooting tips, and etc..not to mention cheaper in price too
@edgardolopez500
@edgardolopez500 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the MicroCenter in Charlotte!!
@STAG162
@STAG162 Жыл бұрын
think of the 5600X3D and its limited run being spruiked by J2C for micro centre, as something similar with Mighty Car Mods and a car they chose to work on. doesn't matter how popular they were before, but because they have known "entities" on youtube propagating the idea for them, they'll run out quick. in Australia we call it the MCM car tax (everything they work on goes up by minimum 10-15% in value). you can call it the J2C tax on those "new" CPUs.
@beni.dworak
@beni.dworak Жыл бұрын
I wonder if there are gonna be cases like with the Athlon II X3s where you could unlock the disabled 4th core. Imagine that with these 5600X3Ds...
@doublevendetta
@doublevendetta Жыл бұрын
Unlikely these days as they typically hard fuse failed or disabled cores with modern CPUs.
@ashleyjaytanna1953
@ashleyjaytanna1953 Жыл бұрын
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@cameronbrewster9906
@cameronbrewster9906 Жыл бұрын
Once the Microcenter opens in Miami FL. It will still be 3 to 4 hours from me. Really need one in Tampa FL.
@heni63
@heni63 Жыл бұрын
They really did so much for Am4!❤
@amgvlogs5087
@amgvlogs5087 Жыл бұрын
I'm very fortunate to live 5 minutes from a microcenter. Definitely will pick one up for a friend's pc, he still on a 2600x and gtx 1080
@keiz_
@keiz_ Жыл бұрын
As neat as this chip is, honesty for price it doesnt make sense to buy, cobsidering you can get the $5700x for $190 new right now, and 5800x for $210, or sometimes even $190 like at B&H right now. If anything I see this more as a collectors or novelty product. At least these won't end up in a landfill like they could've otherwise.
@KryssN1
@KryssN1 Жыл бұрын
5600x3D potentialy could perform better than 5800x3D due to more cache per core, nice!
@mikeelek9713
@mikeelek9713 Жыл бұрын
I am building a small PC for the living room, which will be partly for streaming and partly for gaming. This interests me quite a bit, and there is a Micro-Center about 35 miles from my house.
@georgwarhead2801
@georgwarhead2801 Жыл бұрын
a smal corection. the 5600x3D works on every bios, that supports the 5800x3d and it can be, that mainbortad manufacturers release a bios, that specificly targets this cpu for some tweaks if needed
@m15anthr0pe
@m15anthr0pe Жыл бұрын
I probably would have bought this months ago, but I caught a 5800x3D on sale.
@kenzieduckmoo
@kenzieduckmoo Жыл бұрын
Fortunately microcenter handles its warranties as a store credit not just a same item replacement
@supremacy98
@supremacy98 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for a 7600X3D, it would be so popular. The upgrade route has much more potential than AM4 since AM4's life span is nearly over
@kaisersolo76
@kaisersolo76 Жыл бұрын
Best way to use failed silicon with a very viable product. Really unfortunate not to be able to buy it unless your in the US, Micro Centre don't ship internationally. Not so sure More cache per thread will matter. You seriously need to add the 5800x3d to your collection its a classic. You also have question - could there be a 5300x3d if so how many could they make.
@joeypitera5886
@joeypitera5886 Жыл бұрын
Retailers could have a CPU buy back program for working non damaged cpus
@kel5423
@kel5423 Жыл бұрын
The 56000X3D wouldn't really give me the boost I want, so I'll pass on that one. I'll be upgrading my CPU early next year. I'm going to stick with AM4 and be upgrading from a 5600X to 5900X.
@classicdufferin8739
@classicdufferin8739 Жыл бұрын
For gaming X3D
@mikeyisbombable
@mikeyisbombable Жыл бұрын
Very proud of my 5800x3D. Best bday present ever!
@michaelkane6797
@michaelkane6797 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a "final upgrade" part for people on older AM4 who aren't quite ready to buy an AM5 (or Team Blue) system to replace it. My nephew is on a 2600X and is getting married next month.. he can't afford to upgrade that system. In the spirit of your "philanthropy" video I might just get him one of these. Regarding criticism of MicroCenter's in store only policy... why should they try to compete with Newegg or Amazon? Their attraction is that they HAVE physical locations. I'm about 50 minutes from the St. David's location north of Philly, and I usually find myself talking to other PC enthusiasts when I go there. Sometimes it's beneficial to actually look AT the thing you're buying, and you can't get that online. I went in there to buy a case recently and decided on a Fractal North after seeing it in person... but they didn't have the Black/Walnut/Tempered Glass version on hand. While setting up an order, the department manager came over and showed me that Newegg was having a sale. While he said they would happily match their price, I could get it faster through Newegg. Of course, I left with $200 in RGB fans I didn't really need, but that's how they make money, right? Popups and ads are ignored at best, annoying at worst... but a nice display of LianLi fans with a SALE sign hanging above it just might grab your attention.
@sinistergrin7053
@sinistergrin7053 Жыл бұрын
Micro center pays $4 an hour plus an extremely low commission rate. Sure some sales associates make good money but the majority dont. Not to mention the grimey practices of sales associates that steal sales from other departments and even their own departments. That's how Micro Center can offer the prices they do by fucking over their employees.
@GandolphTheGreyBeard
@GandolphTheGreyBeard Жыл бұрын
~2 months ago, I upgraded my 3600X to a 5800X3D. I could have saved ~$70 with this, but then again, I wouldn't have. The nearest Micro Center is 3 hours/190 miles away. That's roughly $45 in gasoline. Still, cool that there is another option out there for those of us hanging onto our AM4s as long as possible.
@zeroturn7091
@zeroturn7091 Жыл бұрын
6 hours for me. Looks like I’m going AM5.
@TheHangarHobbit
@TheHangarHobbit Жыл бұрын
Considering AM4 can support up to 16c/32t and most AM4 boards will take an insane amount of DDR 4 which is dirt cheap? I can see AM4 sticking around as the budget option for quite awhile.
@chillnspace777
@chillnspace777 Жыл бұрын
I agree
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