an unnecessarily long recap of dance moms drama

[@AmandaTodhunterOfficial]

Check out my last video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3WtnGSAZrqUrLc

[@e2l0i2f4]

Xcm pp

[@e2l0i2f4]

😮.

[@TangentialTif]

I didn’t realize how short Jojo’s time on Dance Mom’s was, it makes her comments about Maddie at the reunion even worse.

[@katek8311]

Yeah especially when the og girls GREW UP in that toxic environment

[@omghilol]

she wasn't even on there for a full season acting as if she experienced the whole package.

[@Rainescoven]

@@omghilolshe did all of season 6

[@Rainescoven]

@@katievx yes she did. She left in one of the first 10 episodes of season 7 but she did 90% of season 5. All of season 6 and the first 10 episode of season seven

[@Rainescoven]

@@katievx Oh yeah. I truly thought she left in s7. Thank you!

[@celinay]

Abby calling Kelly's hair trendy and cool after being slapped by her will never not take me out for some reason

[@artsyfartsy7743]

gotta give credit where its due

[@amandaleebee98]

She has a trendy kind of haircut 🤣

[@melly7174]

Kendall's middle name being just the letter K is so funny to me lol

[@JorjeeHove]

It’s the whole Homer J Simpson thing just glittery ahaha

[@auggiemain]

"Your mom must be real proud of you too, Abby 😊" "My moms dead 😐"

[@Sodapop-gi4bu]

She ate with that one ngl

[@bananaannanna]

The casual integration of "A ca-scuse me" absolutely pitch-slapped me

[@haileygrimmius9451]

I wrote a paper about dance moms in high school and I took count of the number of times each girl is on the pyramid. In the entire series Maddie is on top of the pyramid 68 times. Nia is on top 12 times. I can’t remember the others but I remember thinking that it was insane that Nia was on top of the pyramid that little and she was on the show the longest.

[@Ninamode16]

Asia crying about her dads childhood dog Diablo dying always sends me

[@yelliesauce9417]

ME TOO.

[@kaskaskas]

the comedic timing of her revealing it was the dog was incredible. I don't even believe it was staged.

[@Viteaification]

you made an important point: most competitive teams practice the same routine/performance the entire competitive season. having the girls do a new one every week is crazy

[@MsJubjubbird]

They normally wouldn't in this studio either. It's just not good for tv to have the same costume and routine every week.

[@blckoutday]

Also Abby kissing Maddie should’ve never aired. And her mother and everyone else laughed like it was cute and funny? In what world do grown adults get to kiss a children on television? it’s sick.

[@MrHound-yuhyuh]

⁠@@Noname-ds4lothe situation has me kinda torn. It should’ve never aired, sure, but Melissa and Abby had known each other for a long time. I’m sure they all knew Abby didn’t mean anything like *that* . Still gross, though.

[@blckoutday]

@@MrHound-yuhyuh If you grew up as a dancer, you would know how weird is it for a coach of any sort kiss you on the lips. It’s not just that Abby crossed the line, but on top of that she was forcing a child to kiss someone she didn’t want to. Maddie expressed being uncomfortable kissing a boy, what would make Abby think she would be fine with forcefully kissing her? It’s not normal for any one let alone a coach or a friend of her mothers to ever put their hands or mouth on a child. That is just common sense.

[@MrHound-yuhyuh]

@@blckoutday Yeah you’re right. I can’t argue with that. I didn’t grow up as a dancer either so what would I know🤷

[@user-we1pe8vl5r]

Especially considering that was Maddie’s first kiss and she was talking the whole episode about how she didn’t want to kiss someone and for it to be for a tv show.

[@MsJubjubbird]

They were close then though it's like an an auntie kissing her.

[@persiebun]

I grew up as a dancer and shouting is pretty normal, but being degraded isnt. Theres a massive difference between a correction being shouted at you over music vs being abused

[@MsJubjubbird]

Teachers from the eighties are a bit like that. Politically incorrect. Some directors are like this too. But then add in required drama for a reality tv show and it's even more

[@malory6312]

i had a teacher call us “limp dolls”. i think that’s the worst thing ive been called by a dance teacher. usually when we were yelled at it was cuz we made the same mistakes over and over and over again

[@elliottsalibi]

i can’t believe abby said “i know how to groom these children” i watched the show multiple times and i don’t remember that 😭

[@Kristianalexis1]

I was shocked 😮 I was like you did not just say that

[@emaildryer]

not to defend her but grooming has multiple meanings and in that context she meant it as she has completely raised these dancers and are products of her training

[@cuppupink]

she meant it in a way that explained she knows how to make the kids into stars, idk but i think grooming in the sense we use it commonly is kind of a new term so she just tried to use an elegant word for making but it just didn’t come out as intended…

[@cuppupink]

also she said it in the very first episode i’m pretty sure!

[@remyw1409]

@@cuppupink In a way that was a complete Freudian Slip 😂😂😂

[@onlyloserever]

revealing that brooke was returning that way was so unnecessarily cruel. like what was the reason if not to disappoint and humiliate peyton??

[@orangeants]

Not to mention the editing was literally all focused on Peyton being sad

[@serena2003]

that was probably the producer's call though

[@candycanelover101]

i love ur pfp !!

[@onlyloserever]

@@candycanelover101 thank you! :3

[@project_jaw]

glad to have found this gem right as i was about to do homework

[@Scarlett_M_2008]

I'm also glad to have found this gem during a five-minute break from doing my homework.

[@anyweighs]

this vid isn’t going anywhere, do your homework first pooks!!!!

[@harperburgess9769]

I’m guessing that five-minute break turned into an hour? LMAO

[@kaskaskas]

found this as I was about to do the dishes lmaooo

[@CharlizeL5151]

I see dance moms and Amanda so I click immediately

[@literally.jupiter]

real

[@lll.24601]

SAME!!

[@betsybreen1102]

Exactly

[@annasrosebush]

@@betsybreen1102nn a

[@flyxelf]

how many times can amanda reference danny gonzalez in one episode lol

[@AIIy3000]

Not enough :) (I’m a Greg)

[@bradentheman1373]

hello fellow gregs

[@rrenneee]

I was a dancer from the age of 3-18 and yet I didn’t watch Dance Moms until I graduated. All I can say from my experience and the anecdotal experiences I’ve heard from others is that the dance industry is extremely toxic for children and teens. The teachers tear you down emotionally, mentally, and physically little by little. It feels like being surrounded by mean girls but they’re all 30+ years old and have fully developed brains. I think it’s sad that my memories of dance have been ruined from the bad experiences I’ve had. I still love to dance but hated the environment

[@xiabluecheng]

I'm with you on that. Dance Moms came around when I was like 9-10 years old and I was starting to compete at that point...oh my gosh the paradigm in my studio shifted dramatically since then. It was pretty bad at some point because the girls themselves were not good teammates to each other. Whoever wasn't on the competition team was viewed lesser than by not only the girls but the teachers as well. I had beef with this one girl who was supposed to be my duo partner but we fell off and I got a solo-I digress-she got really close to one of my friends but by the next competition season, we have auditions every season to see who is good enough to compete...my friend didn't make the cut and the girl I had issues with, but my friend was close to, completely cut her off and acted as if she didn't exist. Dance was never supposed to be like this. It honestly frustrates me that people claim that Dance Moms was like this pillar of greatness when it comes to the dance world. They ruined it imo.

[@queenbothered01.]

Did I already know all of this lore? yes did i still listen? absolutely

[@crystal9621]

literally watched this show 85 times

[@danicee]

I’m sorry, she made a student kiss her to show her it was okay because it was pretend?! 🚩🚩🚩

[@benjjji]

"you can adopt!" "Not now im a felon.. so.."

[@Sodapop-gi4bu]

💀

[@katie5547]

wait lowkey need a recap of russian figure skating drama from you now 😭 i never knew anything about dance moms but everyone always compared abby lee miller to eteri and i GET it now after this video 😭

[@Ifxithq]

omgggg

[@clementine8853]

52:43 my theory is Jojo is STILL wanting to be favored by Abby, thus her being the ONLY one willing to discuss or be apart of anything she’s in

[@lexiright5609]

Jojo seemingly grew up to be exactly like Abby. If you look at the way she treated the girls in the pop group she managed it becomes clear that she's just as mean.

[@clementine8853]

@@lexiright5609 I think it’s safe to say she’s a lot like her mother more than she is Abby

[@lexiright5609]

@@clementine8853 I think it’s safe to say that all three of them are cut from the same cloth

[@RawTimee]

The crazy thing is..the girls parents TRIED to get them off the show earlier but their contracts and the shows team would NOT let that happen..like they fought hard for years and then finally they started leaving the group slowly.

[@Hazeljv3]

Going from prison to cancer to paralysis is a WILDLY unfortunate series of events. Almost feels like karma came for Abby's ass after she spent 3-4 too many decades traumatizing children.

[@remyw1409]

Also I haven't noticed anyone else mention this, but JoJo has continued in Abby's name being an 💫abusive💫 dance teacher with her mum. XOMGPop was exposed for some really horrible things, like JoJo (maybe Jessalyn, idr) yelling at these girls through ear pieces while dancing, telling a disabled dancer to "put a pad on her costume so blood doesn't get on it" when she started bleeding out of her belly button. They also pressured this girl to start dancing less than a MONTH after having SPINAL SURGERY even though she wasn't supposed to for multiple months because, you know, being a young person who's just had spinal surgery. As well as not letting the girls do their legally required education minimum, with one girl reporting that she did less than 8 hours of schoolwork in a month? (Don't quote me on this, it happened in Feb and my memory is hazy hahaha.) They also didn't pay the girls/their mums enough and left them sleeping in dance studios and scrubbing Jessalyn and Jojo's toilet to earn more money. Lots of people are thinking Jojo's rebrand was to avoid those allegations and have people talk about that instead of the Rolling Stone article alleging all of this, which I 100% agree with lol. So yeah, JoJo isn't actually the greatest and has definitely been groomed to accept it as normal from a young age

[@Kristianalexis1]

The first thing that came to mind was the TikTok audio that spread like wildfire of Abby Lee Miller saying what the pyramid order was. Paige was at the bottom.

[@EbonyTackie]

Wait it think Jojo and her mom have abuse claims against them from the girl group they formed

[@tacoreibrown6560]

yup that’s the one

[@KingOfGaymes]

Yup, jojo is perpetuating the cycle unfortunately

[@violetaortiztoth3226]

it´s kind of crazy the fact that abby start teching her OWN competitive dance team at such a young age

[@MiaLeos-lw8so]

The reason Cathy’s team was so messy and confusing was bc she refused to put her real dance team on the show to protect their names I believe

[@MsJubjubbird]

Shr initially put her team on. But she doesn't run an elite studio. So her kids could never compete against ALDC kids. So they resorted to bringing in ringers, which is fair enough

[@jimswim3719]

appreciate the Danny Gonzalez references

[@oliviavenkus9651]

As someone who watches dance moms on a never-ending loop, I was fact checking everything u said in my head😂 like " Nope, actually minister dawn WAS seen again when abby tried to make her pay a check"🤣

[@Live_Laugh_Loathe]

NED FLAMES REFERENCE IN INTRO 🔥🔥🔥

[@lexxel9249]

the fact that NO ONE is talking about how jill is kris jenners evil twin 😭😭

[@amen_thol]

holy shit they even look like they could be related

[@ItsJae_37]

they're both evil tho

[@Riley_Shea]

Also just like to point out the Jeanette’s daughter Ava was Tall Girl on Netflix

[@kaskaskas]

wait that is crazy omg??

[@katvelyte]

I saw a tiktok of abby lee starting to walk again today so thats kinda slay for her

[@neb.9489]

A few small corrections, Handley never danced on Abby’s team. She only ever danced for Cathy. Their s1 nationals dance was called “This is my Beauty”. They did “Where Have All the Children Gone” a few episodes prior. There also were a few familiar faces in s8. Lilliana and Elliana were on the mini team in s6 and s7. Lily was a full on cast member in s8 and Ellie was a cast member for a while, but left.

[@DDiegoG]

Now this is the investigative journalism work that we ACTUALLY need

[@tatianabacca5]

When I was a dancer, they used "I'm grooming this student" as "I'm holding this student to a higher standard because they want to make dance their life and career"....didn't age well.

[@theyaremycrocs6009]

This is what I needed. An hour long video essay about my favorite trashy reality show 🙏 I will now be watching this whole thing in one sitting instead of being productive 😁

[@lll.24601]

NOTE: Chloe left because Abby made fun of Chloe’s eye.

[@jaylalawson584]

her dropping the fact that kevin and gino are brothers so nonchalantly is blowing me right now 😭 at the same time , as soon as she said it , it made sense lmaooo

[@leeloo_b]

WHAT 🤯

[@dylanmccormick2675]

It really was a wild show, I grew up watching this with my mom and younger sister and it was so unhealthy. Abby was low key abusive and the moms were all just insane, it was such a toxic environment filled with drama and kind of traumatic experiences for the girls to have to go through. Seeing this notification was crazy, it brought me back to younger times :). Also, the yuuge orange man comparison is dead on.

[@jesalynndoesthings]

Was about to do schoolwork and then I saw this and decided homework can wait, this video cannot

[@roxanne_]

OMG! I literally was just on a Dance Moms binge-watch right now, we are like this 🤞

[@blckoutday]

Maddie has always been my favorite IDCCC even when everyone thought she was a brat i still loved her. And the funny thing is, she was never an actual brat. Producers manipulated a child’s image on television for drama, not caring if she got hate online, or from the other mothers on the show. I have so much respect for her for constantly having to play down her achievements and apologize for being talented, just to make her friends mothers feel better. My girl has a whole career now i’m so proud of her.

[@jvever4904]

never watched a single episode of this show but i am SAT for this video

[@vegas1347]

would love a part 2 the tea gets so good after season 6

[@kellystan4597]

This is exactly what I needed rn 🙏🏻

[@glitchezartist]

Why did I not know Shangela taught Abby how to deathdrop 😭

[@mintytoasted]

i often forget how big of an impact shangela had in media at the time, like she was involved in a shocking number of shows. it only makes me wish all the more it was anyone else considering all of the (very true) allegations against her.

[@sturniolozfav]

the way you talk about everything i love is crazyy

[@HeejinBunni]

i’m about to clean my whole house fr

[@tangelo56]

LMAOAOAOA

[@neverseenlou]

ned flames mention!!!

[@MoreCoral]

DANCE MOMS AND AMANDA?!??! I’M IN LOVE ❤❤

[@xnina92x]

It hurts my heart, that none of the mothers really protected their girls from Abby. None of the children learned that its NOT okay for a person to talk to them like that and they will be vulnerable for this kind of people their entire life.

[@thatsjoius809]

Honestly I use to feel the same way but you should really listen to the moms podcast it explains so much more. Legally they couldn’t leave the show they were tied to two contracts one with lifetime and the other one with Abby so literally they could not leave. The arguing with Abby was pretty much the only way they could protect their kids. Christi was actually going to leave before the show was film but she couldn’t because in Abby contract if your child is a title holder and you decide to leave you have to pay here $100,000 and also can’t dance at another studio for x amount of time

[@xnina92x]

@@thatsjoius809 I do get that, but why sign a contract like that involving your child in the First place?

[@lexiright5609]

@@xnina92x Because they didn't realise how bad it was going to be. The original contracts were for 6 episodes and then the show was renewed and by then they couldn't get out.

[@_smallmac_]

Sigh, I feel like this isn’t long enough. Gonna need a Pyrocynical length KZbin documentary of some random thing I haven’t heard of and won’t remember after I’m done watching the video. Thank you Amanda

[@jadaok888]

i did dance when i was younger and my recital photoshoots had similar costumes and that same grey background.

[@RileyLastname]

I also grew up in the dance sphere and the level of grooming that happens in this world is rampant, traumatizing, and far too normalized. I'm currently in therapy and working through my own experiences which-while traumatizing themselves-still only mildly compare to what these girls experienced on national television. tragic is exactly the right word for it. I have to be in a very specific mood to be able to consume dance moms content because it can be so triggering. that being said, I had no idea about pretty much anything Chloe has been doing post-dance moms, I'm surprised I hadn't heard about anything you mentioned. I would be really interested in that follow up if you were willing to cover it!

[@jaqijarboe3374]

I know these take a lot of work, but long for content is literally tops. I like my videos 1 hr 30 +

[@jillm9165]

EMPTY CHAIR DO A SOLO

[@valmacclinchy]

Dr. Holly is iconic!😂❤

[@H8teaJoyless]

Great video! Hadley never danced for the ALDC though, only the Candy Apples. And Kevin's episode is back up, I just watched it a week ago, but it was taken down previously. I'm still watching but great so far, please do more!

[@H8teaJoyless]

Brynn also didn't leave before the other girls, she just stayed with Abby so she was on a different team competing against the other girls

[@neb.9489]

@@H8teaJoylessShe technically did leave before the other girls. She left the show before the irreplaceables did.

[@urfavsh1teditor]

I strongly believe Abby was on drugs in late S5-7 and thats how she could've lost all her money. Plus if you look at her physical appearance and how crazy she was acting it makes sense honestly. No makeup or hair done, manically laughing for no reason. No wonder the Zieglers wanted to leave at this point

[@magventures]

Amanda for president 🙌🏻

[@mikabears]

im not sure if its just a rumor but a lot of people are speculating that chloe's competition shut down because of christi getting a DUI

[@patrickderdul3218]

Didn’t know anything about dance moms other than current Jojo, so this was very entertaining and informative. Thank you

[@babyturtleshoe8451]

As someone who grew up doing dance from a young age it can be a pretty stressful environment sometimes but it should never be the level of dance moms

[@MsJubjubbird]

The reality tv thing is the big issue. They create drama and conflict, the kids have to film for hours and hours, having to learn new routines every week, having to compete every week, having plotlines based around comparison and competition, mother's being made to stay for the whole class to create drama when they would normally leave so the kids don't have the pressures of their mothers watching,let alone fighting. This is not normal for dance.

[@ohheyyitserinn]

if you didn’t know, the moms were told this was going to be more like a 6 episode docu-series about dance which is what season 1 was, after season 1 was a smash they wanted to order new seasons and the moms signed these abysmal contracts locking them in for six years ! while i understand they could have not signed up in the first place, but no one expected the show to take the turn it did tbh

[@Embelisder]

the clip you used to introduce Melissa was perfect 😂

[@kumaxhime]

35:56 I lost my dog Kramer last December after almost 14 years together and I still cry often. You think you're ready for it as their health declines, but you'll never be emotionally ready. Not sure how I feel about the taxidermy, but this is the one thing I'll give Abby credit for. Losing a pet is beyond heartbreaking, and totally understandable to be taking it hard. (Abby is still a terrible person though)

[@wintersqx]

ive been cleaning for the past hour while listening to this video, thanks

[@RamenKitsune]

I watched a 7 hour recap of law and order svu and its will they wont they of stabler and benson. Just letting you know what comes to mind when I read "unnecessaryly long"

[@carolynlundergan174]

Nice job Amanda, your so lovely and did a great job with this wacky show!

[@eldritchhag]

I saw the title of this video & said (out loud) “Oh, hell yes!” (I’ve never seen this show or your channel, but l I’ve been WAITING for someone to break down the drama I missed)

[@MadiW2000]

We aren’t getting a new Dance Moms The New Era - the studio (Studio Bleu) closed before the season even premiered lol. There’s a lot of drama surrounding it

[@soni3279]

girl sidenote i wish i looked this pretty without makeup, love ur vids

[@KingOfGaymes]

I’m sorry A TATTOO OF MADDIES TEETH?? WE’RE JUST GLOSSING OVER THAT????

[@madgds]

I never watched the show but I love all of the Studio 19 drama clips I've seen online. It's so hilarious because of how shameless the Studio 19 coaches were about wanting screentime.

[@LolaSchms]

NOW THIS IS LONG THANK YOU YOUR MY FAVORITE

[@kehendrix]

Thank you for knowing how to make a proper apology. You had all three necessary parts

[@abbythings]

the og’s (like original 6 from s1) definitely seem to be closest, like you never see the zieglers with kalani or kendall anymore. -also nia released a song this year and apparently was in the new mean girls movie? (i haven’t seen it i just saw on the dm reddit lol) -brynn and kalani choreograph/teach dance now, brynn has a podcast -paige still does some modeling, along with maddie and nia -all the main girls are really active on socials except maddie

[@peacendpola23]

they said it wasn't long enough and she delivered

[@user-bl7kg7tj1c]

Love this!! I think it’s important to mention that Christi and chloe were finally able to get out of the contract and leave the show in S5 bc Abby made fun of Chloes eye

[@babyJes444]

*PLEASE DO A THEN VS NOW*

[@lizzie404]

In love long content I always watch when I’m eating😍 😂

[@growninagarden]

You feel like a best friend ! I love having a channel that gets me and my interests lol

[@skibidisalz]

im so brainrotted all i could think about is how you said thick of it

[@anisaannum1224]

The Book of Henry was a CRAZY movie, I was so lost

[@HorseJoint]

We BACK!

[@DoodMcAwesome]

Something I will respect about Cathy is that what I gleamed from interviews and various talks about her, she seemed to understand she was casted as the “villain” of the show (and also probably understood that nothing she could do would really be worse than our villain “protagonist” Abby) and she played into it. It also seems kind of telling that her daughter played a lot less of a role in the show. I’m just speculating, but I would not be surprised if she just didn’t want her daughter to become so scrutinized by the show and kept her in the sidelines. This isn’t an attack on the other moms of the show, who let their girls just take the full brunt of the circus the show presented. I don’t think they understood exactly what they were getting themselves or their daughters into, but it’s actually notable to see Cathy not only lean into herself as a “villain” for tv while also (potentially) protecting her own daughter from the drama in whatever way she could.

[@HeejinBunni]

I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE !!

[@Vinnie._.the._.pooh-7]

Love the danny references

[@mabbidy]

It freaks me out that the aldc girls are college aged now- I had Vivi in a class with me and I didn’t want to make her feel weird by bringing up dance moms but I couldn’t stop thinking about the ring quote 😭

[@DumbBorki]

I grew up watching the show as an aspiring performer who was taking tap and jazz classes at the time with overall theater as well. So i related a lot to the girls, like stayed up late watching an episode rerun the night Kendall’s song dropped and buying it on my ipod nano type obsessed n relating. And I’m 21 now and as the demographic of the show I have to say it’s quite bizarre the effect it had. Like us joking in dance saying how dance is actually kinda like the show in the ways its unhealthy, encouraging kids to body roll in a way thats sexy, talking about bodies negatively and the unnecessary attitude, and favoritism that has nothing to do with talent. And personally I have to say the drama of it all wasn’t why I watched. It’s a part of why I return yea but growing up I don’t even think I actually processed any drama besides Kathy, which was all in playful fun up until the while bag incident.

[@shakira3924]

I'm suprised you didn't talk about the whole drama with the guy Brooke apparently liked in season 1 - his mother was crazy and still tweets about the girls

[@cebellak]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

[@dari8759]

Now this is what I call unnecessarily long, thank you.

[@nekochan3231]

I gotta watch this man, this kind of trash fire is exactly the kind of show to watch with friends while pointing and laughing

[@alexandravasileva3129]

NED FLAMES MENTIONED🔥🔥

[@abbythings]

as a graduated competitive dancer false lashes will forever be my opp. like i only wore them once cuz my studio didn’t make us wear them

[@halliefraze7719]

This is how I find out my lady Jane was cancelled!

[@michelangelothornton3584]

ned flames mention