Amazing Safety Tech! Porsche Macan EV Driver Assistance Is A Massive Step Up From Taycan

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@zbecknell
@zbecknell 3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate these videos. They're just another demonstration of your team's pivotal role in this industry.
@SpottedSharks
@SpottedSharks 3 ай бұрын
For fun, tell the class what industry this is.
@zbecknell
@zbecknell 3 ай бұрын
@@SpottedSharks The EV industry in the narrow sense (for all the Out of Spec content), but for these ADAS videos they’re good benchmarks for the entire passenger vehicle industry as well as valuable info for people that value good ADAS in their vehicle purchase.
@jeffreyelledge9303
@jeffreyelledge9303 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know how many views these get, but this is great info. I also reviewed your summary data on your website. People need to know how much they can trust drivers assistance systems. Keep up the good work.
@bneyarb5037
@bneyarb5037 3 ай бұрын
The GOATs at work. If you’re buying an EV, this channel is mandatory viewing. Wouldn’t even consider a vehicle until it had been through these ringer on this channel. 👌👌👌
@kottuning3294
@kottuning3294 3 ай бұрын
That's actually a really good looking Macan. I mean for entry level it looks fantastic, love the rear quarter lines
@sexpistill
@sexpistill 3 ай бұрын
I think that's a turbo
@SparkySho
@SparkySho 3 ай бұрын
Bottom of door is so Teslaish
@ronb4633
@ronb4633 3 ай бұрын
I agree with Jordan, 3 points for call to emergency services. If all that seatbelt pulling and horn didn’t get your attention having the vehicle send your location to emergency services is huge!
@GlitterGuru
@GlitterGuru 3 ай бұрын
Not the call center ghosting you 😂
@DouglasJMark
@DouglasJMark 3 ай бұрын
Thanks guys. Great video. This Macan will be Porsche top-seller one day. It's pricey. But, it's a Porsche. Can't wait for your parent's Macan videos too!
@davidc-l9174
@davidc-l9174 3 ай бұрын
I think the ID.7 does the whole emergency stopping stuff. I keep seeing videos from VW demonstrating it, at least. The automated steering seems to behave exactly how VW's Travel Assist does.
@ronald4life1
@ronald4life1 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely beautiful car... Keeps looking better with every video haha
@RealElectech
@RealElectech 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Would love a comparison of various driver assistance, including new FSD in one video. Would also be great to have a condensed 10 minute review of the driver assistance styled more like a car review. Thanks for the content!
@ceez0079
@ceez0079 3 ай бұрын
Kyle, I really appreciate and love the amount of information/videos on the Macan EV (and other vehicles) that you’ve done for us, I can’t get enough of it haha. Gd willing, I will purchase the Turbo, so I’m soaking in all the information you’re giving us. Much much appreciated. Gd bless you and family.
@olemand123
@olemand123 3 ай бұрын
I'm always amazed at how much you have to say. You can talk non-stop :-)
@Molishious
@Molishious 3 ай бұрын
Oak Green is such a beautiful color. So much nicer than gray. 😉
@SparkySho
@SparkySho 3 ай бұрын
109%
@vp0029
@vp0029 3 ай бұрын
Weekend is here. Out of spec Macan video is here. LFG Kyle!!
@mikoske
@mikoske 3 ай бұрын
These are one of my favorite videos! So keep 'em coming!
@broosewee
@broosewee 3 ай бұрын
New Macan EV looks pretty stellar
@SparkySho
@SparkySho 3 ай бұрын
Epic
@bneyarb5037
@bneyarb5037 3 ай бұрын
Looks fucking fantastic. I’ve rearranged my entire financial life to be able to afford one. It’ll still take approximately 5 years (😂😭) but that’s how much this car has nailed everything I look for in a car.
@johnlabernik4599
@johnlabernik4599 3 ай бұрын
The detailer in me flinches every time you touch the paint hahaha
@James_Ryan
@James_Ryan 3 ай бұрын
Love the quad view - reminds me of the movie Timecode. :) Based on Taycan's performance, I was thinking this option was a waste of money, but now I think otherwise (but yes, it ought to be standard, for the safety of everyone inside and outside the car).
@PercivalDunlop
@PercivalDunlop 3 ай бұрын
This mood in this vid is perfect!
@rwjr1944
@rwjr1944 3 ай бұрын
Love the hog back testing.
@antonymcneillis
@antonymcneillis 3 ай бұрын
Very important video well done. Keep them coming.
@DrDave_63395
@DrDave_63395 3 ай бұрын
I love the safe auto stop in the case of driver medical emergency.
@TheoPhilpot
@TheoPhilpot 3 ай бұрын
These are some of my favorites of y’all’s. Love seeing the improvements and comparisons.
@michalvaner3167
@michalvaner3167 3 ай бұрын
About that emergency call thing. I'm not sure how many people it actually saves, but the added value is in the fact that a) It calls in case you might be incapable. The heart attack you've simulated might be one, after a crash where you're unable to move or are unconscious might be other. If you do not assure the emergency service you're fine, but there's silence, mayhem or anything, they send the help. b) It adds metadata that would take time to get out of (panicking) people over the phone otherwise, like the exact position of the car, number of occupants, etc. I've heard of someone who missed the fact the eCall thing called after a crash (because there was panic in the car at the time) and bunch of emergency services arrived even before they had the time to recover enough sense to call them. It turned out everyone was fine, there were no injuries, just panic so they weren't exactly needed, but if they were, they would have been there much sooner. It of course works much better in densely populated areas where the emergency services are close.
@USMA81
@USMA81 3 ай бұрын
Excellent review. Hoping you can do your 10% 15 minute range test. My cousin is the former owner of Porsche Fort Collins. Like your mom, I bought a Macan 4 from them; delivery in a month at LA Experience Center.
@tomm5936
@tomm5936 3 ай бұрын
I think calling emergency should get high points, that could save a life. One thing is to stop the car but if you’re in a remote location nobody may come by for a long time or they may not stop. Unlocking the car is also important when a regular citizen wants to help and cannot get into the car. Turning on the light in the car doesn’t seem that important to me. The emergency button for the passenger should also get a point. It’s less likely to be used but a great idea.
@sameermadan9218
@sameermadan9218 Ай бұрын
Fabulous! Top quality test parameters
@Chris21709
@Chris21709 3 ай бұрын
Awesome color!
@davidentremont2007
@davidentremont2007 3 ай бұрын
The major construction on I-70 going down into Idaho Springs is going to present some challenges for test consistency for next couple years. Wild that guy walking on the shoulder, which is being generous for what is 2 feet of clearance!
@pqvid
@pqvid 3 ай бұрын
The hotline guy will be soon like: "Kyle, is that you again? How are you doing? What car is it today?" 😂
@andrewhurstcars
@andrewhurstcars 3 ай бұрын
Would like to see how the new Taycan does on this test, if the Macan system is still superior it may sway buyers who do a lot of highway driving. Crazy it’s not standard. Might persuade people who are on the fence between Taycan and Macan, but happy to get a cheaper Macan with better tech. Kathy & Dave made a good case for her Macan spec, only what she wanted and needed. Fair enough.
@daviidfm923
@daviidfm923 3 ай бұрын
This system reminds me of the setup in my Jeep. Loves to just go over the lines on tight turns and tell you to take over.
@larry6736
@larry6736 3 ай бұрын
Your driver assistance testing is critical for me. I have already placed an order for the 2025 Macan 4S with all the options, dealer delivery scheduled for 1/17/2025. I use all versions of driver assistance and have noticed great differences so this real world test is very much appreciated. I had 2017 Tesla MX 100D with FSD and 2018 Performance M3 with FSD. Both did some very scary things and always caused my spouse great frustration and say, "what did you do?" I now have Genesis 2023 electrified G80 and a 2024 Kia EV9 GT, both had the same assistance system, HDA2 but the Kia EV9 seems to perform better. I was disappointed to see Macan 4S has only 288 mile EPA rating when the dealer told me it should be 360 miles so I'm still considering a different EV. Looking forward to your range test results of the Turbo since it has the same 288 mile EPA rating as the 4S. Thank you for all you do.
@virtualcircuit
@virtualcircuit 3 ай бұрын
Driver assistance here seems terrible. The driver assistance in my EQS works even on roads with limited markings. I used it driving through the Swiss alps in winter and it worked perfectly even on really sharp corners.
@T.e.292
@T.e.292 Ай бұрын
Driving assistance in the new MACAN will be a big disapointment to you. I live in Canada and drove already 5,000km on my Macan Turbo. That system got me (and others) almost killed 3 times in the first 10 days I had the car. Now disabled...
@harmony3138
@harmony3138 3 ай бұрын
Good work. Waiting for your review and range test on Macan RWD.
@SparkySho
@SparkySho 3 ай бұрын
Is that totally necessary since that domino too WILL FALL
@Jcesare09
@Jcesare09 3 ай бұрын
Wow out of specs I just realized that people in the future is going to see this videos as the historic facts of how assimilation on the ev world in America, "at least" came to be extremely good work guys I expend more time here that any other streaming service 😊👍
@vhol93
@vhol93 3 ай бұрын
17:12 wow nice
@mowensmd
@mowensmd 2 ай бұрын
Unless porsche gets sold off, buying a VW/VAG is extremely risky as they are closing factories and cutting workers. UE testing of AEB showed only Tesla actually stopped before hitting the object. If you want to talk safety, go talk to Lars about their real world data and design to real world crashes including testing well beyond required.
@NIO3954
@NIO3954 3 ай бұрын
Cool 4-camera views...all your videos should have this format.
@RonaldMarcus-d1s
@RonaldMarcus-d1s 2 ай бұрын
Please do this Hogback Challenge on the new J1.2 Taycan! You have been trashing the J1.1 Taycan’s ACC and ALK but I own a J1.2 Taycan Turbo and I find them to be stellar! There is no “ping ponging” within the lane and it centers very well. So please test the new Taycan’s driver assistance and I think you will find a marked improvement (and similar to the testing you are currently doing on the Macan EV
@WillieJamesWillie
@WillieJamesWillie 3 ай бұрын
I love ripping that on ramp
@EricDFleming
@EricDFleming 3 ай бұрын
40 kWh/100km... Kyle must have been absolutely hooning before this video!!
@evkx
@evkx 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing these tests. Love how the system progress. I wonder if the Q6 have the exact same behavior.
@wulf0123
@wulf0123 3 ай бұрын
I have a model y with 12.5.4.1 in colorado if you're interested in using it for testing.
@nikhilreddy1498
@nikhilreddy1498 3 ай бұрын
25:33 no we want this type it the differn between other and you. We love that
@chipsen3359
@chipsen3359 3 ай бұрын
Porsche👍
@zoner__
@zoner__ 3 ай бұрын
Pull up! Pull up! Pull up! It should play the Barney song at max volume.
@vhol93
@vhol93 3 ай бұрын
Nice
@MF-et5nk
@MF-et5nk 3 ай бұрын
The Macan should be good given how much it costs.
@johnlabernik4599
@johnlabernik4599 3 ай бұрын
I know it would be a lot of work, but it would be awesome to see a Tesla in autopilot compared to the most current version of FSD on the same day. I don’t think people appreciate how much better FSD is than autopilot on the highway.
@Fa-kf9ws
@Fa-kf9ws 3 ай бұрын
How does it compared to ix, any recommendation IX vs Macan
@Shiftheads
@Shiftheads 3 ай бұрын
I would love a 5th wheel with an electric motor in one of the axles and a huge pack underneath. Would be great for avoiding tips and would have an E assist for towing and trailer braking with regen. Then just go to RV park and plug in to charge and/or have solar on top as well for off grid.
@ericcindycrowder7482
@ericcindycrowder7482 3 ай бұрын
I think there will be many cross shoppers between iX x-drive 50 and MacanEV 4
@sexpistill
@sexpistill 3 ай бұрын
The IX is much better inside then you have to get out at some point 😢 so yeah I'd get this
@michaelrichter2528
@michaelrichter2528 3 ай бұрын
There might be some sort of EU or UN regulation that limits the maximum lateral acceleration of the steering assistant to 3 m/s^2 or to roughly 0.3g. That would explain why the steering assist always disengages the moment the accelerometer in the dashs shows 0.3g in corners.
@GraphiP
@GraphiP 2 ай бұрын
My favorite series, only disappointment that there is not a single Japanese car on the playlist while doubling on the brands and now I wonder how they compare 😂
@Viktor2188
@Viktor2188 3 ай бұрын
What I didn't see in the test was automatic speed reduction in curves. It should do that, but maybe it only does it, when in car navigation is engaged. Or it can be activated/deactivated in the system. Some corners it wasn't able to do should be possible with it engaged. Similar to Q8 e-tron it does curve speed reduction, roundabouts and not like e-tron right of way. Also, maybe it's not available in the US. It's listed in the press release in Germany. "The system also reacts proactively to speed limits, curves, Roundabouts, right-of-way rules and bottlenecks. The system links online Navigation data as well as information from the vehicle's cameras and sensors and available Connect services. This will show the route ahead and the Traffic transferred into a high-resolution real-time model. On well-developed country roads and motorways, the system takes over lane guidance in traffic jams continuous steering intervention - even in construction and narrow areas. The system recognizes Lane markings and vehicles ahead in your own lane and the Neighboring lane automatically."
@BlackCountryLad
@BlackCountryLad 3 ай бұрын
My Enyaq learns where I prefer to be in the lane as I prefer to be out of the gutter of the road being an ex motorcyclist. I would imagine the Macan would be the same.
@workless-livemore4399
@workless-livemore4399 3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your work, thank you. Would you be able to do a comparison of the active park assist with the taycan? How does it compare? Does it detect small places?
@stolas666
@stolas666 3 ай бұрын
I watch every hogback driver assistance tests. In fact, I get as excited about them as I do whenever Dave Chappelle releases a new special. Thankfully your adas videos come out more frequently 😉
@EricDrummondBPCP
@EricDrummondBPCP 3 ай бұрын
In case of emergency test sounds good or i o e test Great video quick question did you guys ever run the Cyber truck through this test with the upgraded FSD? I'm very curious to see how that would do here if you did can somebody please share me the video question mark keep up the great work guys have a good one and I'll catch you on the next one.
@skyemalcolm
@skyemalcolm 2 ай бұрын
“It’s a Sunday.” 💀
@kemicbi
@kemicbi 3 ай бұрын
I really hope you doing a review of the Scout EV
@vhol93
@vhol93 3 ай бұрын
25:00 it is important indeed!
@ramblerandy2397
@ramblerandy2397 3 ай бұрын
Oak Green looks suspiciously like British Racing Green. I looked them both up on colour charts. Virtually indistinguishable on a TV/Monitor. Out of Spec - good video, as per usual. EDIT: Really good Driver Assist system for a VW Group vehicle. I've always been astounded that certain systems just disengage. Like, what is the worst thing that the car could do when the driver goes unresponsive? I guess the involved companies don't want to appear liable. Though, on reasonably ordinary steering round bends, why can't VW vehicles hold the line? My ID3 is exactly the same.
@edc1569
@edc1569 3 ай бұрын
Best EV in the world!
@SparkySho
@SparkySho 3 ай бұрын
Big words there
@cordkretzschmar5693
@cordkretzschmar5693 3 ай бұрын
A lot of cars can make an automatic emergency call. Allmost 12 years ago my Citerön C8 did it. But i think it is mostly triggert by more serious atcion. Activated Airbag for example. Perhaps you should check this for the other cars.
@JefferyAlmoney
@JefferyAlmoney 3 ай бұрын
GM Super Cruise connects to OnStar with an emergency call when you are non-responsive.
@ScotchTapeLord
@ScotchTapeLord 3 ай бұрын
Finally, an electric version of a car that looks better than its gas counterpart. Didn't someone tell them they could just slap a horrible, cheap-looking piece of plastic over the ICE version's grille??
@andersbangpoulsen1078
@andersbangpoulsen1078 3 ай бұрын
Great video. How does the facelifted Taycan compare to the Macan EV - Is that something you tested? Agree that it's pretty poor in the J1 Taycan :)
@PeterBaumgart1a
@PeterBaumgart1a Ай бұрын
Does it make space for lane splitting motorcycles? I think Mercedes self driving mode does...
@mws73
@mws73 3 ай бұрын
Is there any chance older Taycans could receive software updates to improve upon their system using what they've learned with the new platforms?
@CielMC
@CielMC 3 ай бұрын
Can you guys do a big comparison with all the new car brands? Collective information is quite scarce out there
@garyulwelling7675
@garyulwelling7675 3 ай бұрын
Can you post of list (like dougscore) of these scores somewhere? Even a publicly viewable, private only edit, google doc would be nice. I could really use the context throughout the test.
@hajoveen
@hajoveen 3 ай бұрын
16:20 of the video : In aviation we call it " Pilot Incapacitation" , maybe an idea?
@PeaceChanel
@PeaceChanel 3 ай бұрын
Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤
@DJ-sy1hv
@DJ-sy1hv 3 ай бұрын
Hey guys, where is Lucid in readiness for this test? You guys have a long term one.
@Per.Norberg
@Per.Norberg 3 ай бұрын
Damn. Need to trade in my Highland Model 3 Performance for one of these.... Macan Turbo.
@massive670
@massive670 3 ай бұрын
Please test those emergency braking functions on a closed road.
@Axyusi
@Axyusi 3 ай бұрын
I feel like emergency situation handling should be a separate score. When it's unified in one scoring system, you could have a system with terrible ping-ponging, lane jumping, disengaging systems that overall scored really well because it, when the system works and when you're unconscious, pulls over, honks, calls emergency services, etc. As wonderful as the emergency systems are, if the ADAS system is going to be bouncing over lane lines, i wouldn't use it in the first place
@blubaru09
@blubaru09 3 ай бұрын
Maybe you need a “Car testing in progress” sign on the vehicle.
@getoveritlive
@getoveritlive 3 ай бұрын
I disagree with the emergency takeover auto stopping in the middle of the road. All cars need to move to the shoulder.
@sakariyemahamud1707
@sakariyemahamud1707 3 ай бұрын
Should try the ex90 ads when all of the bugs are fix
@TheMuaythaieesti
@TheMuaythaieesti 3 ай бұрын
how is it compared to IX?
@billpelz9604
@billpelz9604 3 ай бұрын
I think my Lyriq Onstar will call emergency services if the driver remains unresponsive. Isn't that a normal Onstar premium feature?
@michalklucz6907
@michalklucz6907 3 ай бұрын
Could you tell me how Macan's digital display works after couple of day? I know it's slightly different than 911 (three sections instead of four), but the 911 was totally unusable as the external sectors were always hidden behind steering wheel and your hands.
@DouglasJMark
@DouglasJMark 3 ай бұрын
Will Porsche provide OTA updates to improve its already good ADAS? (Hope the Euro NCAP ratings are good too)
@popebenethiccc
@popebenethiccc 3 ай бұрын
Comparing the emergency stopping response between a $130k Porsche and a max $55k Hyundai/Kia isn’t a fair comparison.
@AdrianLauf
@AdrianLauf 3 ай бұрын
MB EQs will call emergency services when stopped after an unresponsive driver event. It takes a moment, but they will do it.
@targetpace2680
@targetpace2680 3 ай бұрын
Does it slow down in case a vehicle initiates merging from either side of your lane? I’d highly value that feature.
@MrStian78
@MrStian78 3 ай бұрын
Yes it does.
@stevenichols4639
@stevenichols4639 3 ай бұрын
Dave and Kathy getting another car? They’ve had more cars this year than I have in my life. Wow.
@massimo7219
@massimo7219 3 ай бұрын
I would be interested in the longevity of the battery. I can’t imagine Porsche would slouch on that but I would want to know anyway
@MDonovan
@MDonovan 2 ай бұрын
The parking cameras are shocking poor
@mlhutche
@mlhutche 3 ай бұрын
How is fsd not lane-centering?
@RudyOMP
@RudyOMP 3 ай бұрын
I wish you showed the HUD
@thesinofthetin
@thesinofthetin 3 ай бұрын
Lucid adas test when? 👀
@jeffs6090
@jeffs6090 3 ай бұрын
Many of these safety features that you tested and praised are or could be optional equipment. It would be good to go over that specific detail, that some of these are not standard and how much that option is.
@bhmbill
@bhmbill 3 ай бұрын
I've found these systems perform better when they are is sport mode with stiffer suspension and steering.
@UNLOCKsilo
@UNLOCKsilo 3 ай бұрын
How would the passenger ever know or remember that holding the hazard button for 3 sec triggers the emergency sequence
@jack91522
@jack91522 3 ай бұрын
Which car is as good or better than Tesla FSD? I have the 21 gle450 and it’s terrible.
@fanofc-adecoulomb8477
@fanofc-adecoulomb8477 3 ай бұрын
Looks a little like a Genesis GV70 EV from the side. No one would ever confuse the two, but I think the driver assistant in the Genesis might be better.
@volcalstone
@volcalstone 3 ай бұрын
They need to make a more sporty looking E-GV70 tho
@Astke
@Astke 3 ай бұрын
My only experience with modern driver assist of Hyundai group was the Kia Ev6. And it was definitely not that good.
@pine111
@pine111 3 ай бұрын
The Macan won’t throw you off a cliff if you’re unconscious like the Genesis will. The Macan wins.
@fanofc-adecoulomb8477
@fanofc-adecoulomb8477 3 ай бұрын
@@pine111 fair point, the HDA in Hyundai does not anticipate unconscious or incapacitated drivers...neither do the safety systems in the great majority of driving systems in service now or any before the last ten years. It's a great feature, and should be implemented across the board. Are all other cars worthless that never had that safety feature? What about seizures where the driver is still holding the wheel, what about a situation where the driver is left draped over the wheel? Few systems anticipated or appropriately mitigate any and all potentialities. If that single feature is your red line, great. Personally I look at the totality of the system and the overall performance of what I have to likely deal with. I am no Genesis Fanboy, just an electrical engineer that likes to look at control systems realistically.
@hunterridley73
@hunterridley73 3 ай бұрын
I think Volkswagens does the same thing even though it owned by Porsche
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