Amazon is justifying the piracy of books

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

Test for ownership: - Can you lend your copy to someone else? - Can sell your copy to someone else? - Can you gift your copy to someone else? - Can you download it and then access it without being connected to the internet? - If you die, will the copies be given to whoever you put on your will? - Can the government take it without first paying you its value? If the answer is no to any of this. Then you own nothing. And if buying is not owning then...

[@magi5587]

that's a nice test

[@satsumagt5284]

Sir, that is precisely what I think about the so-called digital "purchases"

[@Lebon19]

I have a huge belief that I should own my music - either physically on CDs or files I store locally. That being said, the content I get is something I usually get as complete as possible for preservation purpose. But to answer your questions in my case: 1. I can lend my CDs to someone else, yes. I can also make copies of the files I own. 2. I indeed can sell my CDs to someone else, yes. I could but I won't sell files because... I'm not into bootlegging. I can make free copies but I am strictly against selling somebody else's work. 3. I can indeed gift my CDs, yes. I can also make gift copies of my files. 4. This is the biggest advantage of having a local library of music. You. Are. Not. Tied. To. The. Fucking. Internet. You are also Not. Tied. To. Fucking. Copyright. Holders. Pulling. Out. Content. For. God. Knows. Why. 5. Yes, I can absolutely give everything to somebody once I die. Bonus: I get to choose what fucking format I want. You can shove your MP3 up your ass, I want the lossless FLAC. The fact that some content that's digital only is stuck being lossy AAC or MP3 is fucking with my belief of preservation of the artist's original vision. Bonus 2: If you sell your FLAC files 3 times the price of a lossy file, you can also get fucked. I'll just go and pirate it.

[@renakunisaki]

When it comes to gadgets: can I make it do something it was never intended to do?

[@charlestrudel8308]

problem with point 1. i know a company that lends you offline installer, which means, yeah, one can download it and then install it anytime they want. why is it a problem, well, you can share said copy to anyone... basically, the company works on trust alone and if people wanted, they could bankrupt it easily by sharing the installer to 100 people online. i dont know how you can stop this from happening and still let people share with who they want.

[@TalonBugs]

If buying isn’t owning…

[@rossmanngroup]

Why does this never get old?

[@firepeaman2440]

​@@rossmanngroupBecause it's true.

[@Demopans5990]

Do what you want cuz a pirate is free

[@tonycelestro1959]

@TalonBugs No wait, I'm listening...

[@GYTCommnts]

While I agree, that isn't enough. Encryption is improving to a level that piracy could be impossible someday. We need to fight this from consumer rights too, worldwide.

[@tayzonday]

I can't even access my 250+ Kindle books INSIDE my country! Kindle apps refuse to download them all from the cloud and store them locally, because Amazon wants to collect behavior data as I use its recommendation engine to find my own books! 😱🤮

[@sergeantspeed5941]

Tay I literally just replied to your comment in the comment section of aging wheels. We're literally watching all the same videos 😂😂😂

[@AirmanBrown]

😡😡

[@CujoBD.]

Brother, I see you all the time in the comment section of such a large variety of videos that I watch on YT. I've been on here since 2007. While I may not post here (at least for now), it's cool to know fellow KZbin OGs are still out here. You're a real one Tay.

[@lukewood2662]

Some go to the seas and get aall the books(and donate later to the creators for their help, if they helped), but others feel the pain

[@SoberHighDrunk]

DO NOT TRUST YOUR LOCAL POLICE!

[@leviswranglers2813]

I can't believe that I've never thought about how these corporations and companies are not only getting rid of private ownership, but that the removal of private ownership completely destroys inheritance. Can't pass a book down through your family if you never owned the book, and that will end up applying to everything if this path continues.

[@Nblades78]

Excellent Point.

[@leviswranglers2813]

@@Nblades78 thanks!

[@danieln6700]

It's a bleak future sadly lol. Iv still got all my harry potter books. U could lose ur acc and lose all access to books etc.

[@yosefmacgruber1920]

*Save your old dictionaries.* These wicked days, they are changing the definitions, and the modern world does not even know how to define what a woman is. Hang onto really old history books also. Our history is being severely edited by the modern deceptions and omissions of the evil Left.

[@kaseywahl]

I bought a book for my wife, who is a South African citizen, when I was at home in the US, through Google Books. Was FURIOUS that she couldn't access the book, nor could I do anything to transfer it to her, nor could I get refunded for my 'purchase'. I threw money into thin air for no reason for reasons that aren't explicitly stated anywhere until after it is too late.

[@WhoIsCheChe]

Did you try printing/converting the eBook to a PDF file then send it to her?

[@TurboLoveTrain]

Yeah.. your mistake was ever giving google money. You didn't through your money away: you actually paid for a very valuable lesson.

[@cecilhadley7295]

Ugh. Company's seriously forget they got huge by being more convenient than piracy... I don't get it. Back to the high seas...

[@CL-yp1bs]

Ayyyyy matey!

[@peekaboo1575]

ARRRR!

[@esdigital5259]

Companies*

[@aaronmcconkey1062]

grammar notsee somewhere else nerd

[@madcatjo]

In Australia it was (is) nicknamed Channel BT

[@zerotheory941]

Hilarious too that the "digital" copy of books cost as much as physical paper books. Who knew copying a file was as resource intensive as hacking at trees for paper.

[@nebulamask81]

Heck, I've seen the digital version cost more than the new physical copy. A very frequently cheaper option is to get used book. Just learn what the different condition grades mean, like a book in "good" condition isn't really in that great of shape lol. Very good, Near Fine, Fine, and New are the ones to go for if you care at all about the condition.

[@ClearGalaxies]

This is usually not the case.

[@master_miller]

​​@@ClearGalaxiesHDTracks sells upsampled (meaning it's just regular 44.1kHz 16bit but rendered at 192kHz 24bit without actually being at that quality) WAV files for $30+ depending on the album.

[@orppranator5230]

@@ClearGalaxiesIt is for the textbooks I’ve had to buy (or try pirating) for the past three years. I have no doubt that it won’t change for my final year.

[@dmitripogosian5084]

@@orppranator5230 Yep, with textbooks many publishers do not provide physical copies anymore, and digital cost the same as paper ones were.

[@dazley8021]

Geoblocking stuff on the internet is the biggest nonsense ever. They're asking to have their stuff pirated.

[@huf67]

Arrr matey !!!

[@lukewood2662]

Ahoy

[@SoberHighDrunk]

DO NOT TRUST YOUR LOCAL POLICE!

[@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF]

@@SoberHighDrunkand don’t trust overseas police too.

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

@@SoberHighDrunk The police are just there to serve as the muscle of the protection and extortion racket we call government.

[@beejls]

As the operator of a used bookstore, thank you, Lou. Physical media is the best. I'm in the market now for a CD / DVD player. I'm sick to my stomach with all the antics of streaming operators; it's not convenient anymore, and it certainly not cheap anymore.

[@2hotscot]

For DVD player go with Panasonic and avoid Sony like the plague.

[@BunkerSquirrel]

I’ve started following the policy of “buy and rip.” Buy a physical copy and then rip a digital version from it. If the fed comes knocking at your door and accuses you of piracy, you have receipts in the form of a physical copy.

[@UpRoaryus]

maybe the next step is to do the opposite, buy the download and print. Particularly if the file isn't something you can keep and access as you wish.

[@BunkerSquirrel]

@@UpRoaryusbut then it's blatantly illegal

[@blazingarrows6117]

What program do you use to back up your physical copies?

[@CalmingCode]

@@blazingarrows6117you need a dvd/blu ray drive and you can use a program called MakeMKV to rip your disks.

[@draketurtle4169]

It’s not piracy unless your really distributing it, unless you are ripping thousands upon thousands of things, they won’t care.

[@davidhowell1415]

Yeah multi billion dollar companies are allowed to pirate but you the non multi billion dollar company can not because that’s illegal

[@burchified]

theft is only illegal if you cant afford a lawyer to get laws passed which declare theft commited by you legal

[@davidhowell1415]

@@burchified isn’t that what I said?

[@jeffder7143]

Nope. Sorry. Or maybe yes. Idk. If you did, i couldn't really understand what you said. so it was nice seeing it in an english translation. ​@davidhowell1415 you aren't wrong though. If thats indeed what you said.

[@chamansw]

Yes

[@jeffgualandijr9420]

remember, its a big club, an we aint in it.

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

This is a rule gamers follow and that's. If buying is not owning then piracy is not stealing.

[@stigmaoftherose]

Piracy has never been and will never be stealing. It's copyright infringement, and copyright law is fucked so who cares.

[@nicodemolalli5643]

TRUE AF

[@ambiarock590]

Amen brutha

[@DieWeltIstSchlecht]

Then why does everybody use steam?

[@kyushirokun]

​@@DieWeltIstSchlechttwo things. 1: appeal to majority. A lot of people do use steam yes, but that's not *EVERYONE*, far from it. 2: always a balance of convenience vs benefits. The people who use steam are not typically in situations where they have to face the disadvantages of this pseudo ownership. Those who desire or require true ownership will not use it and find alternatives, some maybe more legal than others

[@jimlangerie]

Why I download all my books & strip the DRM from them, just in case. I OWN the silly things. I'm going to continue to own them.

[@lats1378]

How?

[@stigmaoftherose]

​@@lats1378usually you can actually just copy and paste the text in the books from the kindle app. It takes a while but most android systems can hold about 4 pages at a time in the clipboard.

[@sleelofwpg688]

I just buy actual books. Can read them whenever, wherever and during bkackouts.

[@dlengelkes]

@@lats1378 I do the samething. Epubor Ultimate

[@LordVader1094]

@@sleelofwpg688 Not everyone has the physical space for that.

[@denismilic1878]

High seas become a necessity until lawmakers sort this out. If you purchase something, every item purchased must be transferable by resell, gift, court order, or Inheritance. Until then, I'll be captain of a high-seas vessel.

[@timmholl9238]

Region-locked music. THAT one aggravates the crap out of me! EDITED TO ADD: My newfound hobby is estate-sale shopping for out-of-print books, some that I've never heard of. FASCINATING stuff.

[@DarkForce2024]

My ex wife loved to read, she bought up paper books like they were going out of style, more than she could probably read in her lifetime. She was afraid that when e-books became a thing that they would stop making paper books. I laughed then, but now... I'm not so sure.

[@TomNook.]

If you look at the stats, paper books are more popular than ever before

[@brianmitchell2202]

For niche publishers, I can see that happening. There's a french language learning book publisher called assimil that basically stopped publishing new paper books, and only do e-courses (not ebooks admittedly, but a similar concept). Small run paper books are expensive relative to ebook publishing. I don't think all paper books will die off, but some certainly could/have.

[@ScotttheCyborg]

Remember, it was Amazon, with the first generation of Kindles, that blamed a "software update" for deleting copies of 1984 - of all books - from users because that particular copy had been sold by an unauthorized person. If they wanted to track you, there is NOTHING stopping Amazon from making a custom "error" in each individual copy of a book. That way, if it gets spread around, Amazon would know exactly who bought that copy and could prosecute. I don't mean metadata, I mean some minor change in the text itself. And if you have to connect to the Internet to use your device, Amazon could also alter or delete what you already have. Harder to do that with paper books.

[@CobraFat2000]

Also it is literally cheaper to buy physical versions... why would the digital version not be cheaper is beyond me.

[@Nirrrina]

Ebook suppliers are really screwing over public libraries too. They're more expensive & the library can only lend them out so much before they have to buy a new copy. But a physical book can be lent out until it's literally falling apart. Even then they can fix it to a point. If I remember right it costs libraries thousands of dollars to lend ebooks & after so many times it costs them that much again.

[@pokiblue5870]

Im still going to my local library that is massive 😅 i rent book and ps4 games(they have tons of games…) and series dvds of many popular show…all for free..0$ per year.

[@chosenArchitec]

​@@pokiblue5870 I'm love with that idea of a place 😢

[@Nirrrina]

@@pokiblue5870 I didn't know that some have video games to borrow. That's really awesome. The downtown Tulsa library has a Maker's Room. Where you can use their 3d printers, CNC mill, laser cutter/engraver, various tools like a Dremel, soldering iron, a screen printer, loom, serger sewing machine & so on. There's even tools for drawing. Then in the back they have a small recording studio. Upstairs are various computers for doing all kinds of tasks/editing. On the third floor are also 2 flight simulators you can use after a 15 minute orientation. Some of the other libraries have 3d printers as well. They even had a basic sewing class just to get you started. It's really really awesome how libraries have expanded to include far more than just books. I tend to go there when I need to print something off. But I need to go back to the Maker's Space because I'm a crafter & could make some neat things. I did take the orientation for the laser engraver/cutter but didn't follow through to use it. It's been awhile so I need to also sign a release again.

[@BoredPodcaster]

As an author who self-publishes through Amazon KDP, this zone restriction, I can say without a doubt, is absolute horse shit. My readers should not have to buy my book twice just because they moved to a different country, and they certainly should not have to go through customer service agents to access that content under that situation. It's asinine that they have to jump through hoops just to read the content they've paid for, just because they relocated to a different country. If someone bought my book through Amazon, and Amazon denied them access to that content for one reason or another, as the writer/author of that content, they would have my permission to obtain a copy of that content in whatever way they see fit. They bought it, then I've been paid, amazon has been paid (they take a cut), and there is no reason that customer should not have permanent access to it. When you are a paying customer, there is absolutely no reason why you should be denied that which you paid for.

[@JamesTDG]

It all falls back to the shareholders

[@leonl9123]

@@JamesTDG>google „Amazon dividends“ >Amazon hasn‘t payed dividends in the last 25 years >google Amazon shareholder ratio >most shares are owned by small investors >go on Amazons “investor relations” page and look up management expenses. No, not for the shareholders, but for management.

[@HiFisch94]

Imagine buying a book to read on your vacation just to find out you can't it read in the country you're traveling to..

[@davidgoodnow269]

Ask any publisher. This is straight copyright law on publisher licensing, this has been the law for at least a hundred years!

[@Lavafish2525]

​@@HiFisch94 or even buying a book while on vacation just to not be able to finish it at home

[@picblick]

I'm German and therefore have a German Amazon account. Because of reasons I also have a US Amazon account. Both accounts happen to use the same email address but absolutely different and unrelated passwords. One day I figured I did not need the US account and requested to delete it. And poof. Both were gone. The nice support lady restored both accounts and said there was no way one account influencing the other. Long story short: nope, there is no way to only delete one account.

[@OzFrog48Z]

Book ownership has always been a struggle. Back in the early days of the U.S. book manufacturers tried to have a law passed that would make the repairing of book bindings illegal, forcing people to buy new books rather than have them re bound. The "You will own nothing and be happy" movement has been around longer than you think.

[@MrThechuzzler]

I can't believe in 2024 I'm dusting off my old 160GB iPod so I can actually listen to the music I own. I can't tell you how many times my playlists have songs removed from them or they're switched with some radio edit. I just don't understand when I missed the memo that companies should create products that go against their consumer's wishes and interests. I have paid hundreds, thousands of dollars to streaming platforms throughout the years because of their convenience but they seem to have forgotten that's what I'm paying for. I'm well aware I can get the content I pay for for free but I'm tired and sometimes I just want to listen to a song or watch a video without the hassle. Well now they want me to pay for the hassle? Why? If I'm going to be hassled either way then what incentive do I have to pay? I had a couple young kids come into my shop and ask me if I could help them figure out how to burn a CD last week. Brought a tear to my eye. They were using cheap CD-RW and I taught them about choosing slow write speeds and gave them a stack of CD-R that weren't cheap as hell. They made a bunch of rap songs and wanted to burn some discs for friends but it wasn't working for them. They literally fist pumped and jumped for joy when they left the shop. Nature truly healed a little bit that day. If we could just go back to the days of physical media without everyone reinventing the wheel for every product. 😮‍💨

[@heroslippy6666]

Awesome!

[@BanazirGalpsi1968]

Yes

[@whineyhoe]

Saaaame but with pictures and old solfware. Even keep a retro copy of windows 7 for the old school feel of having games i own on a pc that doesnt need to connect to the internet. Cut it off from the internet once adobe decided to start bricking old "buy em once" licences of photoshop. Miss me with that subscription always online crap-ware.

[@mjc0961]

You can still listen to music you own on your phone, you know. Copy the music to the phone's storage, listen to it on the same device you already have instead of inconveniently carrying an iPod around that only does one thing and has a proprietary charge port.

[@the_kombinator]

Hah I still have burned CDs in my classic car. It used to be a tape deck ;)

[@BrianCinBengals]

Another facet of this is if you have a shared Amazon account in marriage and get divorced you can’t transfer your share of books to another account.

[@the_kombinator]

Well to be fair, what are you gonna do with a physical book? Rip it in half?

[@moonshade9860]

One book is a bad example but a whole library you can split the books

[@humilulo]

​​@@the_kombinator, have you ever split a collection of things with someone else? your question seems to indicate that you've never had a sibling or ex-spouse. if there are two books, then one person gets one and the other person gets the other one. the two people need to agree on who gets what & then they divide who gets which books.

[@lilithstenhouse267]

You can have the kids, but babe I'm taking the Amazon account

[@BrianCinBengals]

@@humilulo Amazon gives you no option to transfer the license of Kindle books no matter the circumstance. Their answer is to remove credit card info from the shared account and essentially stop using it for purchases but continue to share the login (so you can access your books) OR one of you reimburse the other for the Kindle books stuck on the account.

[@karlmckinnell2635]

Amazon the world’s largest fencing operation 😊. Selling stolen goods with zero accountability 😢.

[@sjb3460]

Ebay is another purveyor of stolen or counterfeit things. Ebay also sells fake gold.

[@jamestaylor3805]

Ebay is far worse.

[@Ryan_DeWitt]

So, there are a ton of ebooks and other goods that are actually stolen on amazon?

[@crookim]

Remember when you could download your book as a PDF with no restrictions.....

[@countfrackula6707]

You should lobby to congress to define words like "purchase" and "sale" and "buy" to mean a perpetual, non-revocable license where if they ban you, they must either provide a physical copy, or fully refund your full purchase price. Expand on it further by requiring revocable licenses to use words like "rent", even if that is "perpetual rent".

[@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684]

Awww Bless !!! Another person who STILL doesn't realise that governments are now fully bankrolled agents of globalist coporations. International corporations now fund all the mainstream political parties, and remember the old adage.... "He who pays the piper calls the tune".

[@Ginger_Snap347]

I’m visually impaired I hate that Apple is the only company that put the work in to make accessibly features for the blind and visually impaired work well. I hate that the best place to get audiobooks legally is Audible. My vision is so bad that I can’t read paper books anymore. I can read them on an iPad with a Kindle app. I did pirate stuff over a decade ago but stopped because it became easier to get what I wanted through legitimate means but at this point that’s not true anymore.

[@AliciaGuitar]

You should try the National Library Service for the Blind. Your visual impairment should qualify you.

[@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650]

I don’t think staring at a screen all day is a good idea for someone with bad eyes.

[@zzBaBzz]

Why is your vision bad?

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

⁠@@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650There’s no proof that staring at a screen can cause long-term damage to your eyes, but it can strain them (WebMD).

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

@@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650Staring at a screen hasn’t yet been proven to cause any long-term damage to eyes, but it can cause things like eye strain (WebMD).

[@Freedom_Half_Off]

It's not like this is anything new . Some of us have always refused to buy e-books because they can always delete every last book with click of the mouse 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@renakunisaki]

"But it's not like they'd ever actually do that" except when they did, with (ironically) 1984, over some kind of licensing issue.

[@chrisnoname2725]

I have ebooks downloaded onto my computer. The one Kindle book is converted to epub and i read the books on a kobo. I get most books from an independent publisher where i download the file, not kobo. I have the files and don't require internet to access the files. Are they likely to be changed or deleted?

[@corgano6068]

What we should do is protect the word "buy" or "purchase" to mean that when these words are used, the resulting product must have no possible way for the seller to revoke, reverse, or otherwise make inaccessible the product. You don't buy a live service game - you have no way to use it without the company running server software that they do not provide. IF they provide the server sure - you're buying the game - but if they don't they are at best long-term renting it.

[@codemiesterbeats]

Yes I think you could have an argument that if you lose access to something that you bought and paid for you could have a claim that they breached the "warranty of applied merchantability" Which basically means that you bought an item that was sold under the premise that it would perform a purpose... For example if you buy a refrigerator that does not refrigerate that would breach the warranty of implied merchantability.

[@thegreywarden92]

Yes there definitely needs to be a right to digital ownership. If it says "buy" or similar it needs to be full ownership without any strings attached.

[@ZoeBurtonAudiobooksAndMore]

Buy direct from an author and own the file forever, and enable an author to decrease his or her dependence on places like Amazon.

[@ScotttheCyborg]

Baen Books has long done that, and supposedly requires its books to be sold DRM free no matter who sells it. Good luck getting Amazon to comply.

[@TheOtherBill]

@@ScotttheCyborg Baen ebooks purchased on amazon are sold without DRM. I'm sure amazon hates doing that. But you can purchase on the Baen website for the same price and not have to convert from kindle if you wish another format.

[@joebloe3146]

I am an audible subscriber. I have downloaded all 400 titles I have bought and stripoed the DRM from them. I have them stored on a family server and can stream them from everywhere! F*ck Amazon.

[@wwhhaatt]

Okay, sauce? The people need to know how to backup our purchases

[@TurboLoveTrain]

Get Audacity (free) and record it to Mp3 (or Mp4 if that's your thing) directly from the stream when you listen to it. It's basically like taking a screen shot of audio--it doesn't matter the source. you're welcome.

[@wwhhaatt]

@@TurboLoveTrain Y'know I have audacity and I didn't even think to use it. Thank you! I was honestly looking for a way to rip it down like Calibre DeDRM for Kobo or 4kvideodownloader, but that should work

[@BOnYTB]

Yep I got bamboozled by Audible after cancelling after a month. I expected to retain the few books I downloaded, how naive of me. Months later I got an email for a free trial for 3mo! Awesome. I got my old books back, and downloaded a bunch more both from their library and w credits. I ripped a ton of books, it was tedious to figure out how but I did. I went to cancel and they said don’t go! We will give you another cpl months for some absurdly cheap price! Awesome. I downloaded more. I ripped more. They got me for $14 or whatever the first time, I ended up spending maybe $10-$12 after this so Audible got $25 from me or so. In return I have 30+ audio books ripped that I can listen to at any time on or offline. I feel like I came out ahead, I’ll never spend another penny on that site.

[@yosefmacgruber1920]

@@TurboLoveTrain Wouldn't that solution be quite time-consuming? Such that only but a few titles would ever get converted? There should be faster ways to convert?

[@Game-BeatX14]

This is why I'm happy with the physical bookshelf in my room. I don't care if it takes up more space; real ownership is more important than convenience for me.

[@pupi3594]

It would would fit all to a micro SD card.

[@GreenDriveIndia]

Yes but pain reading in kindle is more than physical book

[@TomNook.]

You don't need a kindle to read digital books. This is the danger of market dominance - people think there's only one way of doing things.

[@GreenDriveIndia]

@@TomNook. I am talking about reading on e ink displays

[@divinecomedian2]

Yep, plus it just feels so much better holding a book in your hands and turning pages

[@in4theride75]

The problem isn't the subscription model it's that the subscription model has replaced the purchase model.

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

Yes.

[@henryfleischer404]

That's why I no longer use Photoshop.

[@J0NNYLURVECABBAGE]

It's just so refreshing to see someone with principles, the world needs more truth speakers like you. Also love the greeting at the start of your vids.

[@rossmanngroup]

My only principle is I like yelling at cameras and petting kitties, and this room doesn't have any kitties

[@runed0s86]

​@@rossmanngroupWhat if someone turns Jeff Bezos into a silly catboy? Don't google it. It exists.

[@_Dovar_]

If money paid is real - ownership is real. If it's denied by the other party - that's theft.

[@fredleggett923]

A lot of us reconciled our moral qualms with piracy a long, long time ago.

[@ClearGalaxies]

Not only shouldn't we give money to bad companies. We need to stop others from doing so (when possible).

[@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS]

Some of us never had any moral qualms about it lol

[@Anna_Rae]

I had no idea there was basically region locking on digital books. That's so lame

[@skycloud4802]

It's irritating. I can buy The Lost World in the UK Amazon Kindle Store, but not Jurassic Park. Just why?

[@TheInverseable]

A disgusting mess of lisences fees

[@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF]

@@skycloud4802I don’t think this is an Amazon policy just to annoy the user, but license stuff (different editors for different parts of the world) and different legislations around the globe (a book can be already public domain in one area, but still copyright in another place).

[@1centimetre]

Because Americans are so used to Amazon. Go try other marketplaces FFS. Google Play lets you access it anywhere in the world on the same account. So does Kobo and other e-tailers

[@Dasrecord]

wait till you discover fiat money. (#bitcoin fixes this)

[@bran1886]

Right up there with Ubisoft telling people to get "comfortable" with not owning games. If I can physically own something I will buy it from books to games to movies and music, if not I have no problem with people pirating it.

[@nesra8786]

I have been conditioned to pirate everything for the last two decades. Best customer experience. If I can't pirate it, I don't want it because pirated software, books, music, movies are superior.

[@metala]

A more concerning part to me about the eBooks delivery services is that they can redact the content with accordance to the contemporary trends and not even release it as a separate edition.

[@rogueyun9613]

Anyone that owns a copy of The Crew may be able to fight this by helping Accursed Farms make his claim.

[@nazaxprime]

This needs more volume. We need to boost the gain on this one eleven fold. Glad to see you representing, and this is one more front from which the battle must be fought. o7 For democracy!!

[@SoberHighDrunk]

DO NOT TRUST YOUR LOCAL POLICE!

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

@@SoberHighDrunk Or any police for that matter. They are not only allowed to lie to you, but encouraged and trained to do so.

[@twisted5576]

Bump

[@BeetleBuns]

​@@RicardoSantos-oz3ujagreed, never trust a government thug.

[@seltersaar3512]

Amazon Kindle once again proving that pirating an ebook makes for a better customer experience then buying from them. My hate for Kindle stems from the fact that some books are only available there and Kindle does not provide you with anything besides a digital copy of a book than can only be viewed through their app, which basically means that all E-book readers except for Amazon's Kindle are screwed. So, you cannot read a book that you've "bought" and paid for anywhere except for amazon's devices or their app. You can try and decrypt whatever DRM mumbo-jumbo amazon have on their books using an addon to calibre, but you'd better hope that they don't update the encryption again. And then we compare all of that to the ease of pirating a book: you just visit a website, log-in, download whatever book you wish in a convenient format and then drop it to whatever device you want to read it on.

[@kbhasi]

I've seen the Kindle exclusivity stuff quite a bit with self-published authors who may not know better, to the point where I dreamt of trying to make a comprehensive self-publishing guide for a book blog I'd run.

[@henryfleischer404]

Also, compare it to using a library. Put it on hold using their website, wait 1-30 weeks (interlibrary loans can take a while), then go pick it up and read it.

[@mindlightwave]

I remember maybe 10 yrs ago a friend who had a kindle showed me that actual ebooks on the device were altered from the original text and some were completely gone. I just always used my old android with microsd full of pdf and epub files. Always used open source apps and, er, clever means of procuring ebook files.

[@killerkonnat]

It's weird that for illegal copies of audio or text files... you own them. But for legal versions you can't.

[@nothenryporter81]

And pirating ebooks doesn't have the limitations, such as bandwidth and storage space, that can be a disincentive to downloading shows/movies. Once you experience how convenient it is to have full control of your books you'll never want to put up with their nonsense again.

[@JBaby_9783]

This is why I’ve been backing for years. I’ve been reading ebooks since 1999. I still have access to all but 7 of those books. Not having those 7 books is why I’m against DRM. Those 7 books taught me to back up my purchases. I do the same for my Audible books. I’m self-hosting them with Audiobookshelf. I’m against piracy though.

[@DangerB0ne]

I only buy things on Amazon as a last resort, and even then I have to wade through a sea of crap to get anything worthwhile. Buy local and buy physical.

[@MyVanir]

Unfortunately, a lot of places outside the fantastical land of murica (and Europe) often do not have accessible local sources of books in English, so buying online is your only option - and many vendors have absolutely abhorrent shipping options, be it prices twice or thrive the price of a book or otherwise shit services.

[@jonathansparhawk1883]

It is high time every person internalizes a deep mistrust of the companies we interact with every day. We need to make this the normal baseline attitude, not just among the informed.

[@RayneNikole]

Absolutely. Just make sure it's distrust for the megacorps and not people in general. Because they'll just capitalize on the distrust too. Social media banks on isolation Various companies benefit off of political division. All benefit from not having unions.

[@marriedguydoingstuff247]

As soon as I “buy” an Audible book it gets downloaded, converted to MP3, and pushed off onto MY media server. I also have an “offline” only Kindle that I side load all the books I “borrow” from the high seas. 🏴‍☠️

[@xpforevergaming8609]

I've bought a used Kindle a couple years back that for some reason cannot even connect to Amazon 😅. Needless to say, Calibre is an amazing program and my Kindle is full of DRM-free books and there's a backup of all the books on my PC and external hard drive as well. I don't have to fear losing access or having content changed at all.

[@hillogical]

I see the legal reasons why this is the case. This DOES make me thankful I have paper copies.

[@mindlightwave]

As they have been changing definitions in the dictionary and removing text from published books for many years.. soon physical copies may be the only reliable proof of the original content and context.

[@JanetDax]

I have a dvd library. If I want to watch a movie, I can. I can l can loan it to friends, sell or give it to them. If someone decides the movie is unacceptable, I can still watch it. Last week Amazon Prime decided I couldn't watch a movie in my collection because all of a sudden it was region locked. They should be forbidden to sell things that aren't mine when I buy them.

[@jellyrcw12]

The sofa in front of the door is taking me out lol

[@wolfpackflt670]

He's trying to keep the Amazon ninjas out.

[@adjbutler]

3:23 "I can take this book to New Yor...." Oh the jump scare horror that you induced in me at that moment. I didn't think you were changing the channel to jump-scare content! Please don't do that... your channel is fine as it is. 🤣

[@albertorosado8756]

I LOVE NEW YORK !

[@Originalimoc]

When they closed my account because they accuse me for having multiple accounts which I don't I know for future should never rely on any of those BS.

[@SteveTheSuperSanchez]

I love how you educated the masses on Omni and Cardioid mic elements at the end of this video, then brought it back to repair! 🎉

[@madog1]

Hi Louis my grandmother and grandfather immigrated from a small mountain town in the middle of Italy in the early 1900s, too. 😊

[@andrewn7365]

I'm confused why authors never have a donate/tip page on their websites, yet are as a group very concerned about piracy. When I pirate a book, I always look up the author, because I WANT them to be compensated for their work, but there's never a method to give them money directly. Piracy is often a symptom of a service issue, not to avoid paying. So what is preventing authors from having a "buy me a coffee" button on their website? I bet giving them half the book's retail price directly is more than the money they get from the publisher for a dozen sales. I want to support authors so they can continue to write the books I get so much enjoyment out of, but the licencing and DRM included in digital sales spoil the deal all because the publishers are greedy.

[@JH-pt6ih]

This is the part that got lost in the "information should be free" mantra from the past which paints "information" with too broad of a brush and brings us to the attitude today of "bleep the creator." Any book, movie, etc. that is over 28 years old or the creator is deceased I have zero concern about just pirating without compensation, but with newer works and living creators I also wish more of them would make a way for an easy and direct donation/payment. And not just through youtube, patreon, on-demand type merch, etc. which take exorbitant fees or have questionable practices - but a way for a direct easy payment. (And for the record - there are cases when the work can be under any amount of years with a living creator that I also don't care about pirating from, but that is getting into specifics as to if that creator is themselves a problem for consumer rights).

[@Shakrii]

Don't forget that the eBook is the same cost or more expensive than the physical book even though one has to be physical made, handled, stored, and shipped.

[@MyLibertyTV]

Prices are set by the publisher/author. I’m an author myself and all my ebooks are cheaper than the paperback. Don’t like the price then don’t buy that author.

[@Shakrii]

@@MyLibertyTV Wow, just wow. I can't believe you actually follow this channel with such a problematic argument blaming single publisher/authors and not the industry as a whole. Your comment ignores my point that your policy should be the standard and not the exception. (I also understand that the relative price when thousands are produced per book is low). Ever since eBooks became a thing I have wished I could spend a little more to get both an eBook and physical book. I don't by eBooks because of this issue and the convince of getting eBooks through the library system. I also realize that I am an exception not the norm with my purchase decisions concerning ebooks.

[@GaraksApprentice]

Yes, and the actual cost of all that on a physical book is a tiny percentage of all the other costs that the book has to cover. Authors, editors, manuscript formatters, cover artists, marketers all don't work for free. Economies of scale for trad publishers make the paper and printing the LEAST expensive part of publishing a book.

[@whenimmanicimgodly4228]

Huh? Every ebook I've ever gotten was like 25% the cost of the hardcover

[@crazydragy4233]

​@@whenimmanicimgodly4228 Yeha tbh I keep seeing people complain about this but I've never seen it. Then again I'm not American, so I don't even get to use the famous sites

[@eduardocruz4341]

Barnes and Noble is pissing me off because certain novels that have come out within the past three months havent made to my area B&N stores. I looked for them in the stores, couldn't find them and went to ask customer service. I asked if they had the books whether they sold out and were getting more but the store employee looked it up and stated that the books didnt make to the area stores so i had to order them. I miss when they had competition with Borders, who i also miss. I hate that since they seem to think that they dont have competition, guess they aren't worried by Amazon/Google/Apple books. Since Borders went out of business, B&N doesn't keep older books in stock or organize them alphabetically plus now they group sci fi and fantasy novels as sci fi when before they grouped them separately.

[@chaos.corner]

I suspect they're just a place to dump the product of politician's money-laundering $2M book deals anymore.

[@nebulamask81]

I don't know what area you live in, but I really like Blackwells. UK based but they ship free to a lot of places. You might want to give them a shot.

[@MyVanir]

Another issue I had with B&N is that it took then ages to get things to where I live -- after two orders I ended up cancelling after three-four months, I just stopped ordering from them. RIP BookDepository, it was the absolute goat of buying physical books.

[@ameyer7608]

I bought a US exercise video, but I could not watch it in Australia. I couldn’t even buy the video in Australia. There was no way to copy the video to another device.

[@shadowraven137]

The good old DVD region 4 lock on your player. If you still have it try it on a different device

[@mouthfulofpeanutbutter9753]

If you want to pay for a book that you don't own, go donate to your public library.

[@Apenschi]

Thanks! Your work can't be overvalued! More people should be aware of these problems and stand up against them!

[@jameswilson4920]

You missed the reason they are doing this is resale and transfer of materials is completely gone, no more borrowing book or passing down through generations!🤬 corporate bull! I own digital copies and when I can I buy the actual book as well, but some of my books are hard to get so I have to resort to digital purchases like my one blacksmith book on armour and tools it’s a 100$ book could not find hard cover😢, but prefer an actual book easier to read and can write notes if needed!

[@light-master]

This is why I only buy epub files, and make sure they either did not have DRM, or that they no longer have DRM. That file exists on my NAS from now until whenever I delete it, period. No restrictions on devices or countries or the whim's of a company.

[@Raegoul]

I bought a kindle because I can sideload epubs. When I "buy" an ebook on Amazon I download a pirated version for the future. I turned off auto update in case they ever take away the ability to sideload. If there's no uproar I'll manually update the kindle software. Why should I have to do this to read a book I paid for????

[@howtotechstuff]

Thats why I have a video on my channel how to remove DRM protection and use your purchased books on whatever device you want, wherever you want, irrespective whether Amazon or publisher decides to cut me off from something I paid for. Thanks for bringing this up!

[@TheOtherBill]

That doesn't work since amazon redid their encryption method.

[@flemtone]

Amazon are assholes, I had an old style kindle that wouldnt connect to my amazon account and after contacting their tech support team they couldnt do anything either apart from push a discount on a brand new kindle. I eventually found a forum that showed me how to update the fimrware on the kindle and lo and behold it worked. Why didn't their own tech team know this ? Money, they thought they could get a fkn sale on a new kindle.

[@johnmatthew102]

I have a cd player in my '03 P/T Cruiser and I like the fact that I can play what I want, when I want, with no subscription fees. Music, books on tape, comedy performances all on hard discs that can't be canceled, although wear can be a limiting factor if you don't take care of them. No wifi connectivity is available in my car and none is needed. It is too dumb to spy on me.

[@bryanshoemaker6120]

I can name a dozen foreign films that I had to pirate. Because the original DVDs either didn't work in my region or did not have English subtitles. I'm old school. I much rather buy the DVD or CD and rip it to my hard drive. And then place the physical media upon the Shelf.

[@andreivaughn1468]

region-locking sucks, but the old tech has one silver lining, it's not "high-tech" enough to have decent DRM implementations. Pretty much 99% of DVDs and CDs can be ripped perfectly, unless there's EXE files on there, etc - movies and audio is pretty safe in this regard. Blu-ray is infinitely harder but still doable.

[@SuicV]

I do that with CDs, but is there a somewhat easy way to get around a DVD's copy protection?

[@bryanshoemaker6120]

@SuicV there are some pretty good programs out there. A lot of programs will have a trial period so you can test it out. If you like it then buy it. Just make sure your computer security is up, the internet is a very filthy place. Unfortunately, I'm the same sob story as thousands of other Americans. Lost my home business, and now I'm in the process of relocating. All my files are chilling in backup on backblaze. If I get some free time, I'll see if I can get some names for you.

[@SuicV]

@@bryanshoemaker6120 Thanks, appreciate it. Sorry to hear about your business, best of luck going forward

[@andreivaughn1468]

@@SuicV Hey, look up "DVD Decrypter", it's the best and only one. Removes scrambling from Friends DVDs which I'm pretty sure had the most sophisticated DRM back then.

[@Kyle496]

I like to subscribe to an authors patreon or whatever and just pirate their audiobooks, once I've paid their patreon to the point it covers the coat of the book ($10 each book which is the cost of 1 audible credit) and then I unsub. I hate how audible (an amazon company) takes a huge cut of an authors earnings, it's much more than the cut that patreon takes from subscriptions. Amazon even punishes authors who don't distribute their work exclusively on their services.

[@dabig_guy2204]

I have always maintained, under the current copyright rules, piracy is not theft by the same logic.

[@MichelePonte]

I travel full time and I have the same problem with Audible’s competitor, Storytel, and every time I change country many books stop working

[@ElectricityTaster]

I've pirated over 600 books, including 1 porn magazine.

[@henryfleischer404]

Why only one?

[@spudpud-T67]

@@henryfleischer404 Because he only has one penis.

[@Darkwing8707]

@@henryfleischer404The man found his white whale, it's all he needed.

[@chuckjones9159]

There are several pdf book sites where download is free and unrestricted without using a torrent.....oh..wait a minute...that was last year. Glad I spent 4 years downloading anything I would ever want or need.

[@TheCrazyCanuck420]

Stuff like this is why I strip the DRM out of their kindle and audible books. I only have two books out of over 600 that I can't strip the DRM out of which is a pretty good rate 😊 I'm sure a VPN could get around the region locking, but if you use the Kindle hardware then you would need a network level VPN.

[@cirozorro]

Why are you unable to strip on 2 out of 600? I haven't found a single purchased book from amazon I haven't been successful at removing DRM. Curious to understand if this is a new issue or related to Prime reading(where they don't allow download for USB transfer due to people abusing it)

[@TheCrazyCanuck420]

@@cirozorro It was due to the format being so old and that good ole script we all use didn't know how to handle the format. They were tech books I have never opened so if I lost them.... meh

[@sarakleinhenn3652]

When they change deffinitions on most dictionary websites, just to fit what the news is spinning tells you where we are going.

[@unstable-horse]

Can you share a particular incident?

[@JesseMaurais]

Some Kindle books cost as much or more than the physical copy. This blows my mind. They get to skip the printing, binding and shipping while holding the right to revoke your access, and expect you to pay the same or more. Unreal.

[@DavidShepheard]

"You don't put a sofa in front of a door." - Now I can't take my eyes off the door.🤪

[@milire2668]

i lold so hard when i realized that hes in that motel rn yD

[@tactileslut]

I saw someone on TikTok this morning who had clothing stuffed under a door and several inches of standing water on the floor. There are worse things to put against a door than a couch.

[@Almodeus]

Shit like this is one reason why I compulsively crack the DRM on my books and other media when possible.

[@emiliog.4432]

I prefer physical books. Always have, always will. I wish more people would read and buy books from small local family owned book stores.

[@CnCDune]

The daily grind to just survive strips us of that time.

[@xXNickPXx]

Digital books on an e-reader are great. A logical technological upgrade to books for those who want the huge convenience it affords you. Digital books requiring online validation, however, are not. A serious downgrade.

[@mapl3mage]

the entire reason for piracy is so you can get the content for free without paying a cent. whether the book is sold by a small local family is irrelevant.

[@johndoe-dj3iy]

2 words: paper mites

[@OG_Mereles]

But not too many or they might become Amazon. Jokes aside, yeah support your community. The better the people around you are, the better you'll be too.

[@DESS71AN]

it's the same with everything. You change your country, you lose your Google Play store purchases, apple store purchases, apple music library. It makes no sense

[@lucadominguez4659]

And that's why I always make a local copy of any digital contet that I buy. As a side note imagine telling a company this: "no, no, no, you don't OWN my money, you are merely RENTING it, you know, I lent you money as a service" 🤣

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

GEOGRAPHICAL RESTRICTIONS WERE A PRE-INTERNET THING Given, it still kinda is for things like physical releases/products and localizations, bUT THIS IS PURELY ARTIFICIAL ON AMAZON'S PART

[@KonradTheWizzard]

Geographical restrictions worked only so far pre-Internet: a company could refuse to deliver something directly in a specific market. They could not stop you from importing it and insisting on your rights under the first sale doctrine. AND IT WOULD STILL EFFIN' WORK AFTER IMPORTING IT!

[@Darkwing8707]

Amazon doesn't do georestriction with already purchased ebooks in a way that stops you from accessing it. All you have to do is just log in to your other account. There are no controls in place to stop this. You are free to log in to a UK account from the US and vice versa. I have Amazon accounts in 3 different countries that I've lived in, all with kindle ebooks purchased on them and to access the different ones, I just need to sign out and sign in. Is this a slight inconvenience? Sure, but they definitely aren't trying to stop me from accessing the books I paid for. It would be great if they let you move the books, but I have a feeling publishers are the ones stopping this.

[@NotColaTai]

I always pirate EVERYTHING

[@stevensmeagol6066]

Aaaaaayyyye ye scurvy riddon daag, please share your maps

[@magi5587]

@NotColaTai yes Yes YESSSSS!

[@AirmanBrown]

You are really doing God’s work. Thank you for exposing these elitist.

[@aliengirl6836]

The PROGRAM is "Your will own NOTHING and be HAPPY!"...right?

[@bob_mosavo]

A friend was going to cancel his monthly Audible membership, and the Audible representative told him that all of the audiobooks in his library would go "poof❗" if he canceled his monthly Audible membership. Yeah, what freakin' dystopian future is this⁉

[@AliciaGuitar]

That is a lie. Only his unused credits disappear, but that is bad enough.

[@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove]

I spent my 30s getting rid of my CDs, DVDs, and books for the convience and space-saving of streaming services and Kindle books. Now, in my 50s I'm back to buying CDs, DVDs, and physical books. If you can't hold it, you don't own it. My wake-up call was something stupid and small, I bought Gone with Wind when my mother and father was visiting. This was years ago, and when I pulled it up a few years ago they had added a new "disclosure" to the video. I thought holy crap, if they can add a "disclosure" because they think something is problematic, maybe one day they'll actually edit or ban problematic material.

[@graham3400]

That’s mostly true, but there are digital retailers that respect ownership. IE) Allowing you to download content locally with no DRM. For example, Good Old Games. Digital media is not the problem, corporations treatment of digital media is the problem.

[@alexdhall]

I agreed with you up to the point you talked about the "disclosure" added to Gone with the Wind. There's a *very* good reason why that was added and has nothing to do with ownership of physical media. Sad fact is that even with the physical media, especially DVDs and Blu Rays, we technically don't own either. Nor did we technically back in the VHS era....

[@MrMoneyHelper]

Modifying and restricting information has been done for over a decade at Amazon.

[@pippers8349]

I partially agree, but in this case if you still hold the actual file itself in your hand that's usable drm free, which is to say the actual MP3 file, the epub file, the actual game files, etc. That's still true ownership. You can back up that file wherever you want and in as many copies as you want, and use it as you please

[@sheerbeauty]

Yes, I would hate to read a Bowdlerized version of the Bible.

[@michaelhess4825]

Every book i buy, i also pirate, only as a backup of course... Dave with movies, music, games, everything i can. I will not buy something, until I find a copy I could pirate. This is the world we live in.

[@deadmandying6234]

If I cannot find a pirated version of a book online, I buy only so that I can add one for everyone else to have.

[@michaelhess4825]

@@paulrun111 no, sometimes I actually want the writer, composer, etc to be paid for their work! Maybe not the super famous millionaires, but all the others, very much so. I'm not into stealing, just getting what I paid for.

[@boadiceameridionalis3732]

@@deadmandying6234 Where would be a good starter place for a newbie to look if they're part of everyone else.

[@boirobot]

I lost all my itunes and PSN content when I moved from Canada to the USA. Steam doesn’t region lock media though.

[@CarmelloVision]

Same. Moving to Japan, it’d be easier to have a localized JP App Store but I mean all my shit is on US App Store

[@umbrakinesis2011]

Wee need to enforce the removal of the "buy" button from these company's websites, they should call it "buy license" or "purchase perpetual license" or even "rent/lease content" they should not be allowed to call it a purchase.

[@AdamBorseti]

Games, cars, software, e-readers, printers, juicers, cock rings, TVs, refrigerators, and soon, much more!

[@lego_minifig]

That is why I always rip my audiobooks off audible and upload it to my plex/jellyfin servers.

[@boadiceameridionalis3732]

How? Audible is a no-go for me unless this is possible.

[@lego_minifig]

@@boadiceameridionalis3732 The way I used to do it was through a github app that took advantage of the windows version of the app. That version is now out of date, but Libation by rmcrackan looks promising. I’ll see about giving it a test to make sure it works then get back to you.

[@lego_minifig]

@@boadiceameridionalis3732 just tested it. Libation was super easy to set up following its guided tutorial. Way easier to get running than the older methods.

[@lego_minifig]

@@boadiceameridionalis3732 I think my comments are getting censored? Look up the tagline “liberate your library”

[@lego_minifig]

@@boadiceameridionalis3732 YT is censoring all my comments

[@BBntw]

That is exactly the reason why I only get physical books. Besides I love turning pages and feel the book.

[@Fridelain]

I really like z-library polkadot se, just replace polkadot with a regular period. Never bought ebooks, because they were the same price that a paper copy while not feeding a bunch of middlemen (printers, book shop owners, truckers, etc), which rubbed me the wrong way.

[@blueberrypoptart2349]

If I can't find a hard copy of a book (or media) I'll sail the seas for it, I will never buy a copy on those sites or services, people need to stop buying digital things.

[@boadiceameridionalis3732]

How might a landlubber find their way to sea? Just got burned on audible.

[@unguidedone]

drm free, no telemetry, no georestrictions, no account needed, free open source information in open source containers (pdf) for books in this example. they are trying to make material information (dvds, bluerays, books, cds) obsolete because there is no profit if you only buy it once.

[@HappyQuailsLC]

Aka Technologically Social Bullying as no other basis for it exists.

[@adjbutler]

Imagine if paper books changed to the local language when you move countries. lol

[@j.t.5178]

Uh oh, the shrooms are kicking in!

[@ryanwilson_canada]

I used to pirate lots of media back in the early 2000's, napster, limewire etc. Now i just dont have the time. I just choose not to buy digital media now instead. Because I'm an old fart. Lol

[@Ibibiogal]

Interesting, for years I was charged for prime but didn’t have prime. Called Amazon a bunch to find out why the charge kept happening but was told that I didn’t have prime. One day, a rep hinted that I checked if I was being charged by UK Amazon, turns out it was Amazon US stealing my money. Finally cancelled and complained. Asked how it happened, they ignored and just refunded for 1 month. The issue went on for years and I got a 1 month refund, then my case was closed. Amazon is the worse.

[@ilovetech8341]

I rented a show on youtube and they blocked me from watching it while I was traveling. Time to go back to the old way. If it isn't in your hands, you don't own it.

[@Zundfolge]

Its not just about them restricting your access to your property, its also about them being able to change things. How long until that digital, cloud based copy of Huck Finn you bought all of the sudden is missing the character of Jim?

[@adjbutler]

You will own nothing and you will be unhappy!

[@Dasrecord]

#bitcoin fixes this.

[@StateAlchemist7]

@@DasrecordActualky it doesn’t. They will still have you rent everything.