AMD is in Big Trouble. - Tech News June 23

[@paulshardware]

I meant to add a note for folks south of the equator, hope y'all have a great winter down there 🙏🍻

[@WilliamHollinger2019]

Oh Australia yeah this is their winter break.

[@Eroamagorath]

thanks, mate

[@Olderdingo]

/ga Waves in Australian. Cheers Mate.

[@thandorbeast]

​@@WilliamHollinger2019 we don't get a break 😢 schools have 2 weeks off in a few weeks time that's about all.

[@TheHst2112]

16.8 Degrees C inside the house this morning.

[@Teh_Monk]

Advertisers on YT would probably hate to know that I consciously avoid purchasing from companies that force me to watch their ads before the content I actually clicked on.

[@TechOverwrite]

A good policy for sure, but how do keep track? I swear I see hundreds of ads a day on my mobile 😢

[@potatoes5829]

@@TechOverwrite simple. if I remember your ad, you've overdone the advertising.

[@rdspam]

If you remember their ad, it was effective. They’re happy.

[@s4nder86]

@@TechOverwrite Time for a systemwide adblocker like NextDNS or AdGuard private DNS. Your device, your choice what to allow on it.

[@o0Donuts0o]

The company isn’t forcing you to watch their ad. KZbin is. But stay mad.

[@daviddesrosiers1946]

Adobe: We're not gonna do any snooping stuff. Us: Then why is the snooping stuff language in the legal terms? Adobe: We have no intention of doing snooping stuff. Us: Yeah, but you still have the snooping stuff language in your legal terms. Adobe: Trust us, bro! Us: No.

[@JETWTF]

Joe is right Paul and you should listen to your editor. If he wants to use a different video editing software that you are not used to from your time editing your own videos and said software he wants to use is free to use for non-commercial applications or a 1 time payment of $295 for the studio version instead of Adobe's per license subscription service that over the long term costs far more.... Not only will you save money but your editor can edit better using software he prefers and is more familiar with making cheaper to make but better videos.

[@makifrable]

Really? That is actually some crappy situation, very unproffesional. So they hire an editor not based on his skill, instead, on the 'stack' that he uses? That is a creative job that includes the licence costs. So if the guy wants to use a cheaper software that he specialises in is actually a no-brainer.

[@finestPlugins]

​@@makifrable That depends, being able to open und use older projects may be a requirement.

[@ShiroKage009]

Depends on being able to access older projects, how often other editors use Premier, and other factors. Personal preference of the employer may or may not play a role, but I doubt it's the major problem.

[@brianmiller1077]

I am not a video professional but I have heard from some that it's isn't just Premire, it's after Effects and whatever the audio software is called that keep people in the Creative Suite. Their programs might be best in breed but the Corporate management is the worst.

[@Chill_Mode_JD]

You can get the mini speed editor keyboard and the studio version lifetime license for $250 from places like B&H i just upgraded myself

[@the_arcanum]

Get that skilled editor on Da Vinci Resolve if he asks to, Paul. Seriously.

[@liquid527]

"He likes to watch" was great lol

[@ilaion11]

"GN is always watching"

[@shawnwiley5035]

AMD must have thought Steve was too busy with Asus to notice their misdeed, but forgot there were two Steves.

[@waterandsteel4713]

Ah, that moment you realize that you can't get away with the bad stuff 'cause you are outnumbered by the Steves. lol

[@R3tr0V3rt1g0]

Quit watching TV because it was 25-33% ads on every network. Will quit watching YT (sorry Paul) if they are going to do that here too.

[@jukesfood5601]

I haven't seen an Ad on youtube in years.

[@R3tr0V3rt1g0]

@@jukesfood5601 Only when YT's google overlords want to squeeze some money from the platform, though they seem to have given up fighting with the audience again lately. Ublock + Firefox = win.

[@waterandsteel4713]

Same. I've had 40 years of brainwashing I think that's enough.

[@Martial-Mat]

What ASUS is grudgingly forced, dragged kicking and screaming, to say to avoid PR fallout, is of no interest to me. All that matters is their actions from this point forwards. They used to be the (overpriced) go-to because they were better than everyone else, but now you have to factor in their dishonest RMA, the equation has changed. Trust has been permanently lost.

[@pabloottawa]

Two words Paul: - DaVinci - Resolve

[@CantankerousDave]

Ads are one thing, but YT throwing more ads, longer ads at viewers more frequently *while they also sell a subscription to remove those ads* is a protection shakedown. Extortion. “We’ll annoy you more and more until you pay us a monthly fee to go away” is the tactic used by “sokaiya” yakuza. There’s a great movie called MINBO by Juzo Itami on the subject.

[@mostpplarezombies]

Not so much about money, knowing every user by their real name and address is the most important thing.

[@420jahlion]

so you are saying every paid streaming service is illegal.. ads got worse because of ad blockers. you just want something for free.

[@greebj]

I went away. There is a nice app that Louis Rossman has mentioned that can access yt you just have to hunt a bit and get it directly, the app store versions are a bit gimped. Blockers are still working also. I'd rather give them 10 bucks a month than this fetid site

[@greebj]

@@420jahlion when yt puts as much effort as it does in blocking scams and bots as it does ensuring ads reach eyeballs, and in responding to creators who've been hacked and scammed with actual humans doing customer support, I'll feel like paying for their product. Capitalism is all about consumers paying what they feel.

[@420jahlion]

@@greebj no your are the capital and they will do anything to capitalize on you. capitalism doesn't care about you, only your money and other outlets of money

[@Oo_snow_oO]

So, we need AI on our PCs (powered by NPUs) to get into the YT video stream find the ads then reassemble the video so we can watch it without ads.

[@GoonyMclinux]

I download the video and skip the ads or when im really bored I just read what the video says, its amazing how we can read an entire video in less than a minute or two.

[@ZeroB4NG]

@@GoonyMclinux amazing... we started with written words on pieces of paper, then spend decades and billions of various currencies researching and developing and improving amazing machines so we can have talking heads on screens that we could see and listen, at whatever time we wanted. Then that takes too long and we use voice recognition to turn speech back to text so this guy can read faster than watching a video... now all that is missing is that you print out that text on a piece of paper so you can read it on the toilet, and we are back where we've started with Newspapers. Progress!

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

nope, since clients like Vanced and Freetube exist

[@robertt9342]

I disagree about AMD “deserving” this. Do I feel bad for them, no, not because they "lied", but I don’t encourage hacking because of misleading advertising.

[@cavemantero]

they didn't lie...they just used a test setup these nerds don't think is 'good enough' in the enthusiest world

[@elchancho8432]

Lmao

[@RyTrapp0]

(pretty sure that was some dry sarcasm, lol)

[@skychaos87]

Who gives a f about CPUs from 2 generations before? Sure, misleading advertising is bad but seriously who is even going to buy those CPUs? Those CPUs have little to no improvements, its kinda like release to "extend" AM4 lifespan. But anyone with a sane mind knows AM4's lifespan has ended, its all about AM5, Zen5 and 9000 series. AMD didn't try to mislead their Zen5 benchmarks because they know everyone has high expectations about it. But its stupid of them to try their shenanigans with AM4 and the new 5000 chips because its creates an opportunity for techtubers to jump on it and create a woohaa about it.

[@MrPsychomonkey]

They have to keep those servers spinning some how. It's no different to TV. If you hate them just get premium or adblock.

[@ShinGoukiSan]

I had an RMA issue with Asus years ago and had to leverage my position at the time with Godaddy to threaten them to finally get them to repair it.

[@technicallyme]

Hate to say it but not sure intel’s problem isn’t baked in and the fix isn’t buy a new processor 😢

[@mysticdre321]

Big hacks this week. CDK global was hacked on Wednesday. 15,000 car dealerships in the US, most in Canada and wolrd wide, are affected. The slowdown is killing the industry.

[@Mr.Genesis]

it's incredible how Data Security is still something that so many people and even many companies still don't seem to take as a legitimate threat because it doesn't "Physically" compute for them

[@thalo215]

TLG Peterbilt was also effected. They are a very large Peterbilt network across the Midwest and parts of the east coast.

[@99mage99]

Car Dealerships were already slowly killing the industry themselves. This is more like kicking grandpa after he spilled the tapioca.

[@crazylocha2515]

Can confirm several large delivery companies were hacked via their maintenance side originally and caused mayhem as individual other sections popped firewalls and locked out. Couple of days of the old manual walking in the office to get paper printouts for delivery lists was ... Interesting.

[@Jodah175]

add another 0 to that number and you might be close. Certainly going to be interesting to see how screwed up my next paycheck will be.

[@patricklee8552]

RMA is the least of ASUS problems Intel has had to get involved with Motherboard manufacturers killing CPUs by not following their spec requirements for "out of box" settings, ASUS apparently still cant read a chart, so Intel released a statement and Intel's statement reads: “ Several motherboard manufacturers have released BIOS profiles labeled 'Intel Baseline Profile'. However, these BIOS profiles are not the same as the 'Intel Default Settings' recommendations that Intel has recently shared with it's partners regarding the instability issues reported on the 13th and 14th gen K SKU processors

[@AB_883]

First thing I did when I setup my Asus Rog Strix B760-G motherboard was set it to Intel Default settings. The Asus performance profiles are asking for trouble according to the testing I’ve seen showing voltages and thermals.

[@Kapono5150]

Like Intel hasn’t lied on a benchmark

[@KenjiEspresso]

Paul like that intel 🍩

[@Ryan-093]

it's okay for AMD to lie because Intel does too?

[@MadSpacePig]

Watching KZbin on Firefox for the past few weeks has been the most painful experience of my life. So much jumping, stuttering, and buffering for no reason.

[@oliverturner128]

Turn off hardware acceleration, has helped quite a bit for me

[@MadSpacePig]

@@oliverturner128 Tried, no joy.

[@walsterdoomit]

Ads have increased in frequency and length. Single ads are disappearing also. KZbin is becoming pure trash tv.

[@aerosw1ft]

​@@walsterdoomityoutube went from forcing 5 seconds ads, to 10 seconds, to now up to a total of FOUR ads running at least 40 seconds before you can even skip. This is getting ridiculous.

[@fruitcake4910]

Is this the case even without ad blockers? Isn’t that anti-competitive?

[@Lenticular67]

Welcome back, Joe and Paul!

[@fateunleashed9680]

I second the swap to over to Davinci Resolve it'll be better in the long run. I've even come to like Affinity photo better that photoshop too.

[@paulbrooks4395]

KZbin ads, the fastest way to drive people off the platform. The increasing number of ads and junk on the sides of the screen just make me not want to participate, at all.

[@Yuriel1981]

Considering Intel cleared the air first, I kinda feel the harsh headlines were a mistake. The media and public should be rewarding actual moral behavior from these companies.

[@charlesballard5251]

Yeah, I've been seeing commercials on KZbin that I don't want to see and can't skip or even fast forward through them. And I'm using the BRAVE browser which is supposed to eliminate ads. A lot of vids I wanted to see I just gave up on because I didn't want to sit through 60 seconds to 2 minutes of ads for shit I'm not interested in. Like those stupid games where you have a blue warrior or group of warriors fighting red warriors. Bad games, bad commercials, don't need to see them.

[@colt.4598]

I have the same problem with Vivaldi and Firefox. However if I use google chrome I can skip ads. Not sure about Brave browser or Microsoft Edge. Will not be surprised if YT wont allow you to skip ads in the future on any browser.

[@argonzeit]

I haven't seen youtube ads on Brave in a long time, I guess by the time I get on they must have done patches or something.

[@charlesballard5251]

@@colt.4598 Yeah, BRAVE's big selling point is the automatic skipping of ads. I guess KZbin found a way around it. Really I wouldn't mind it so much if I could press a button to skip the damned things. I'm just NOT interested in the products. Show me some movie trailers and you've got me. But these cheap games for phones? NOPE!!!!

[@jukesfood5601]

@@charlesballard5251 I use Brave and I haven't seen a yt ad in years.

[@NTATchannelNickTaylor]

I'm holding on to my 2080Ti to the bitter end... ⚰️

[@rvdeddrift]

For 99% of anyone's needs... That is a real BEAST of a card! Lol! I have a system that still runs one of my 2080 Supers and have no plans to upgrade any of it for a long while! If you wait for 50 series, I bet the performance bump will actually be very noticeable! 10 to 20 was a significant bump plus we got ray tracing, 20 to 30 was OK, and 30 to 40 was dismal. I admire you for still rockin the OG RTX card! 💚

[@maydaygoingdown5602]

Me too bro, I've been gaming on an MSI Ultrawide 165hz monitor for over a year now with no issues and no need to upgrade.

[@thefilmdirector1]

honestly if people stopped chasing pointless high resolutions even a 5700XT/3060 tier gpu would do just fine

[@ratman7969]

​@@thefilmdirector1 I will keep my 5700xt until it dies.

[@EricXVII]

I said the same thing about my 1070. Im only just now coming across a couple games it doesnt perform in. Im not an FPS whore so as long as I get 60-90 im more than happy. Im holding out for the 50 series cards to build a new PC and enjoy some of this new hardware too.

[@easttexasalex1756]

It’s never a good thing when people’s personal info gets leaked.

[@snek5596]

I am not happy about ads being added to the video itself. I've gotten some "ads" that were 30+ minutes on a 5 minute video before. Hell, I once got an "ad" that was an hour and a half long. hell TF no.

[@Hidyman]

Bowel shaking earthquakes of doubt and remorse - Cake

[@CantankerousDave]

He didn’t go the distance with that potential quote.

[@rustyredbeard]

Good luck KZbin and your multi-trillion dollar parent company in the ongoing fight with the nerds of Github.

[@Decenium]

if I cannot block adds, then I simply wont use youtube anymore, its UNBAREBLE with adds.

[@CraftBeerTastic]

Try using Opera as your browser. The built-in add blocker seems to do well for me. Cheers!

[@andrewvirtue5048]

Google is still disrupting playback on youtube in my area. Except when I'm on my phone where I cant block ads.

[@malcaniscsm5184]

yt-dlp

[@eskelmoser]

Im using built in adblock in opera, works like a charm

[@mark.082]

Do yourself a favor and get yourself revanced installed

[@IForgetYourName]

Revanced, or firefox for mobile devices supports addons such as ublock origin

[@singlsrvngfrnd]

​@@mark.082revanced is the only way I can enjoy content from this insufferable company anymore.

[@imglidinhere]

I mean, I pay for youtube premium because I like to support the people I am subscribed to. That said, I'd much rather not shut off the adblocker I have. Opens too many doors. Like demanding someone leave their front door unlocked because they're in a good neighborhood... nothing bad happens around here...

[@TheRealSkeletor]

Paul, none of the benchmark graphs you showed around 3:28 contain either the 5800XT nor the 5900XT. So how do we know AMD was lying about the performance if we don't know what the real performance is?

[@stillmoms]

The 5800XT and 5900XT are not available to buy yet, but are essentially just rebranded versions of existing AM4 processors in the 5000-series lineup at new, lower price points. So by testing those existing equivalent models, we can fairly estimate whether AMD’s figures are in the right ballpark or not.

[@mikel2730]

I think the guys over at hardware unboxed did a breakdown of the graph

[@singlsrvngfrnd]

The number of people that don't understand extrapolation is mind blowing.

[@TheRealSkeletor]

@@stillmoms We don't know if the performance of the new models are equivalent to the old models, that's why we need to wait until the new SKUs can be objectively tested.

[@stillmoms]

@@TheRealSkeletor We might not know it in the strictest sense of the word, but based on all available information we have-both about the “new” chips and the existing ones to which they’re most similar-it is reasonable to extrapolate. Though I don’t doubt that HUB will do this, since I’m sure they’re being inundated with pedantic complaints of this exact nature!

[@saintuk70]

Coffee and a Tech News, good way to start a Sunday morning.

[@conza1989]

Or, Winter, 2024, for us Southern Hemisphere people.

[@michaelthompson9798]

Yes those ‘World Series’ sports games (that only include the US) forget the southern hemisphere exists 😢🤯

[@melodynice7938]

It is winter in Louisiana??! 🤯 well, shiiiieeet

[@plumbthumbs9584]

@@melodynice7938 'Hemisphere' does not refer to the piston tops on your Hellcat.

[@bepbep7418]

​@michaelthompson9798 the MLB is made up of LOTS of non Americans 😂.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Oh, the antipodes!

[@goblinphreak2132]

amd has never lied about their benchmarks. people forget people like hardware unboxed will tweak settings to make a cpu run supposedly the best it can. year over year i can accurately get amd's results in testing. its not hard. and the meme that they lie is getting old. also how is HWU testing a new cpu that don't have? claiming the new chips aren't performing when they, dont, have, them? you can't prove something wrong by testing a different product. that makes no sense. a great example is running a cpu overclocked vs stock. who cares if a 13600k overclocked can match higher end products when overclocked. it means nothing to the average consumer. which is whom benchmarks are supposed to be for. enthusiasts shouldn't be listening to benchmarks because they will never get the same performance with all their tweaking they do.... all you have to do is read amd's footnotes. they always provide them. and they tell you exactly what system/settings they used. funny how hardware unboxed completely ignores that and just makes up information to suit their bullshit video. its click bait. honestly HWU is the least reputable youtuber out there....

[@goblinphreak2132]

ublock origin on google chrome has blocked every ad that has ever existed. i have no issue blocking ads. not to mention some ad blocking featured in the ubiquiti dream machine pro system. i could had a pi-hole on top but im not that nerdy to install that shit.

[@Daxter250]

what, google wants me to go to chrome or else they will disrupt video playback? i can only chuckle. im using firefox for 2 decades now. we firefox users suffered through worse xD.

[@mysticseven6578]

Paul, thank you for covering that GN/Asus story. I have not had the time in my schedule to watch the full video and had been wondering if I could get a short summary.

[@FilthEffect]

Thanks Steve

[@steven44799]

Back to you Steve.

[@brandongreene3213]

This is why you WAIT FOR REVIEWS!!! Thanks Paul, (and you too Tech Jesus) for being a stalwart line of defense between their crappy marketing bs, reality, and our wallets.

[@karmabad6287]

FAFO Adobe. Take em to the cleaners.

[@bradhaines3142]

i think the G processors current problem is the memory controller, its not as fast as it needs to be for the graphics cores to be fed, also they didnt upsize for the desktop difference from laptop hardware theyre based on

[@jimutjayadev]

AMD deserves this? Wtf Paul...

[@patricklee8552]

I take it with a grain of salt, I love my R9 7950X

[@stevensmith6445]

AMD: And I took that personally. Intel: But we did the same thing Paul. WE DO THE SAME THING! Nvidia: 😶‍🌫️

[@elchancho8432]

Well yeah they got caught lying

[@spry_guy]

Every company does this...

[@FMBriggs]

In the court of public opinion, any comeuppance counts towards justice served.

[@jackielinde7568]

RE: AMD Breach - Shame on you, Paul. I know you were looking for a way to transition the story into the next one and sound "spicy". But do you know how didn't deserve the hack? If the claims are true, the AMD Employees whose personal information is supposedly part of what the data thieves took. Doesn't matter what you think about AMD, their employees don't "deserve to be pwned" in the deal. A lot of whom never had a hand in the cheating scandal. Shame on you.

[@itsdeonlol]

Steve doesn't get enough credit on what he does for the PC community. Thank you Steve!

[@rgstroud]

Every Step you Taaaakeee. Every Rule you Break. ...... I'll be watching youuuuuu!

[@bullettube9863]

I don't mind ads done by content providers but absolutely hate ads from KZbin interrupting a video while I watch. That is why I use an ad blocker and will continue to do so.

[@crazylocha2515]

@Paulshardware are we going to have to put a gofund Joe together and buy him the Pro version of Davinci Resolve suite to make this happen?

[@Lone_GamerUK]

What I got from the Steve v Steve ASU’s video which was great was ASUS outsources much RMA with KPI’s that promote the behaviour we see and don’t listen to their own staff or customers - but still the interview on tape and statement after is a great step and hope it changes things for the good for a change. (Steve at Gamers Nexus likes to listen 😂I know have visions of him I’d rather not have him lol 😂

[@stevetech5150]

i support the content creators i watch however if youtube forces commercials into all videos(yes, i use an ad blocker and i'm not sorry) i will do the same thing i did with network tv and cable tv, i will stop watching it. my biggest fear is Spotify and Tidal will start interrupting songs halfway thru to shove a commercial in my ears.

[@chinkasuyaro8983]

Spotify thanks you for your kind suggestion. ;)-

[@singlsrvngfrnd]

Revanced. Not just for KZbin anymore. Works for Spotify, Twitch, Tidal, Tiktok, etc. I can't remember the last time I saw an ad shoved in my face on mobile.

[@drzoidbergmd3200]

Good to have you back. Your videos are so witty and well written, a highlight of Sunday morning

[@01ai01]

So that Userbenchmark dude was right about AMD all along.

[@oomiosi]

If switching away from Adobe meant a reduction in quality I'd be ok with that. I already watch in less than highest resolution so I don't get cut by those mad sideburns.

[@ninjapirate47]

Good job, KZbin, harass your customer base with more needless popup that they aren't interested in. Are you trying to take Avast's crown? That'll keep them coming back for more!

[@newfaith912]

We need to make some community AI driven video crawler that detects shift in topic and instantly skipping that part. I am sure it can be done eventually.

[@nick-dogg]

Did they mention how they got hacked? Very curious how they were able to hack the system and if it was from a certain employee clicking on an email.

[@theglowcloud2215]

>side effects may include priapism it sometimes be like that, however

[@edwindungdung1998]

Now, Steve might not be Rogers, but sure as hell, he is my Captain.

[@cesarpcminirace798]

oh Captain, my Captain. Thanks for Steve.

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

Awesomesauce video Paul and Joe! As always on my Sunday morning. Captain Crunch in my bowl and Tech News on my phone (i forgot my glasses so i could it on my TV). It looks like some time off after Computex went well. Thanks, Steve, for confronting Asus with the ongoing RMA issues. Now to finish this bowl and my bottle of MD0, so i can go back to sleep. Caffeinator out.

[@j.a.velarde5901]

#PaulsHardware - Paul, can you talk to us about "Magnetic Keyboards"? - I understand they are supposed to be revolutionary, but can't find any outside of laptops.....

[@Pratee10k]

Check whooting keyboards and keychron also came up with magnetic switches

[@JOKEMMM]

​@@Pratee10k my man, there are already around 50 different magnetic keyboards at this point. But so far, wooting still has the best latency

[@BLKBRDSR71]

AMD lied about their benchmarks? WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US! Yeah I'm not surprised. I mean Intel did it first. Besides, I'm still gonna upgrade my Ryzen 5 3600 to a Ryzen 7 5700X later today.

[@killertruth186]

I mean if you wanted more performance the 3D is better.

[@DVDfeverGames]

Why? Rhetorical question. I don't care for clickbait titles. That's why I unsubbed from Linus...

[@LTPottenger]

If you don't have the adblocker then there are not many ads and FF plays most of them in the background if you open multiple videos. If you don't see some ads then YT goes insane trying to give you those couple ads you would have missed. Only time the ads are annoying is when the idiots making the video go in manually and place ads every 30 seconds, but there is a simple solution there: don't watch those people.

[@c0wg0d]

So, we can't buy AMD, we can't buy EK, we can't buy ASUS... Sigh. This is exhausting.

[@claydog6422]

I just had to RMA a Thor 850w Power Supply back to Asus. They were very nice and I got a RMA # to me. The one thing they do make hard is they do not give you an address to send it to. They want to sell you a FedEx label for $25. I am sure they are making $15 on that transaction. That was annoying. But if they fix this 2019 Thor I will be happy. Warranty is about to run out in September.

[@Razear]

Steve's accountability confrontations will go down in history as some of the greatest cinematic masterpieces of our time.

[@o0Donuts0o]

I got the opposite. I read the community posts and got the “I want to speak to the manager” vibe. Gave it a miss.

[@rasluffi]

It's significant that he forced them to confront their shortcomings, current and future ASUS customers appreciate that as long as it sticks.

[@ffnbbq]

​@@o0Donuts0oEven if that were the case, why not even make an attempt trying? Throughout this saga I've seen snarky, nihilistic comments questioning why would anyone bother trying to do anything, or mocking GN for doing so/believing Asus would simply fool and humiliate GN Steve in some manner. It reminds me of "Better things aren't possible".

[@o0Donuts0o]

@@ffnbbq I’m not going to tell anyone to not watch it or agree/disagree with it. I’m just put off lately but the GN channel and their tone in the community posts. They seem to me (and I only speak for me) to have developed this abrasive attitude due to their platform and certain pockets of viewer worship (the Tech Jesus moniker). I don’t generally praise talking heads and they seem to have developed this “we are the final word” when relaying technical information. This comes through when they talk to actual engineering people which GN are not. I can only hear the same “TJ-MAX” and “Delta T” over and over as their only talking point because that’s the extent of their knowledge. It comes off as faux.

[@ffnbbq]

@@o0Donuts0o While GN are not the final word in technical reviews, there are one of only a few tech youtubers who do very detailed reviews and analysis. But that has little to do with the topic at hand. GN are one of the few channels who dare to challenge, criticise and investigate companies whose sponsorships and advertising make up a significant amount of channel revenue - it costs them money in the long run. And if anything good comes out of it, you are the beneficiary.

[@8lacKhawKtheRIPPER]

Yes, please switch to Resolve. A great piece of software and anything non-Adobe is an instant win in my book. They will never stop with their scummy practices.. and constant crashes.

[@OfficialNakatsuMegami]

It would have been far more profitable to Hack NVidia than AMD. Stupid Hackers.

[@EvilJ069]

So them being fucked with, sponsor block may be the problem I've been having lately... Testing time I guess

[@Artista_Frustrado]

even if their excuse is that we're unpaid employees/products, that still doesn't change that YTs ads are just a bad service. If they made the ads not invasive most people wouldn't fight them, but Noooo they have to triple down so Advertiserrs keep not doing their job

[@evalangley3985]

Another tech tubers attempting to surf on what is trending for donations and clicks... "NOT RECOMMENDING CHANNEL"... clicked...

[@Paelmoon]

Maybe intel can make a decent CPU now. Also, please stop spreading an actual lie that AMD lied. They didn't lie. They used a shitty graphic and metric, but it wasn't a lie.

[@DrawCartoons]

Insightful and detailed analysis! It's intriguing to see the challenges AMD is facing. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly.😮

[@SpinDlsc]

Glad to have my Sunday dose of tech news back with the two legends! Great content as always, Paul and Joe! Also get your man Joe his shiny new editing software, Paul. He deserves it!

[@mjc0961]

Igor's Lab was wrong? Again? Igor should do everyone a favor and shut down his tabloid - I mean "lab" - so the world has less misinformation in it.

[@MrLincoln87]

People prob been dealing with it for awhile... but I hate this new "twitch" style chat up the right hand side.... and all the videos down the bottom all tiled out. F'nn annoying.

[@MrMcGreed]

I love you Joe

[@bigal2688]

OMG! A Tech Company lied about something, something, darkside!!! This is such a Non-Story IMO! Never cared and never will about Company provided benchmarks and anyone that does is stupid! I really don't get why this is so hard to understand! LOL!

[@iAmCodeMonkey]

People are idiots. Simple.

[@augold1681]

I think these influencers are full of it. First, the AMD RX 6600 is the fastest growing GPU and most used (next to the RX 580 which is very much on it's way out) GPU made by AMD (according to the steam hardware survey). Second, the influencers test these CPUs with 4090s and 7900xtxs and then present the data to everyone in such a manner as to say "look the i9-14900k or Ryzen 7 7800x3d is the CPU for you" when in reality the overwhelming number of gamers (as represented in the Steam Hardware Survey) are using GPUs that are substantially similar to the RX 6600. I would bet that 90% of the GPUs (as represented in the steam hardware survey) are far closer in performance to a RX 6600 than an RTX 4090. What the Hardware Unboxed data shows (and to a lesser degree the AMD data) me is that if you are using the 90% lower performing of GPUs represented in the Steam Hardware Survey and not the top 10% you can use a Ryzen 5 7500f (and possibly a much less expensive cpu) from Aliexpress for $130 and your performance in gaming will be comparable and sometimes better than a $546 i9-14900k CPU from your favorite retailer. But this very valuable point gets lost in the discussion. I am so sick of these influencers pushing the agenda of NVIDIA, AMD and Intel. The influencers will claim to be outraged when AMD puts their products in the best light they themselves do it to push unnecessary products every day. But what the **** do I know, I am quite happy with my 7500f that I paid $112 for from Aliexpress (for that matter I was happy running an e5-1660 overclocked to 4.4 ghz that I paid $15 for on a Dell T5810 motherboard I bought for $25 shipped) and my 3080ti (that I paid $180 from a seller on ebay... that needed a little work) but nobody will pay you to say that.

[@Cinetyk]

Yep, those AMD benchmarks were way bad, but let's be honest, their CPUs and platforms have been great the past many years ever since Ryzen, let's not forget that and not forget also LOTS of people have been recommending them for years, which has been legitimate and fair. Also Intel and Nvidia just do makeup on their benchmarks and charts as well over and over again - ALL GUILTY. I was surprised on how hard people came down on AMD for that. Don't get me wrong: IT IS WRONG. But when I originally saw it, it felt like just another day at the office. How many times do I need to learn "never trust official benchmarks, always wait for independent reviews"? I don't remember how many decades ago that was obvious for me. GN Steve and the Asus people is what has got my attention. Tough interactions, tough long conversations, hopefully they really do change their behaviour. That whole "oh, there's a miniscule dent on the plastic, would you like to replace the whole screen for 100s of moneys?" was appalling. I need to see actual results, but they took it on the chin, I respect that. Still feels way over the top bad for the consumers who were done wrong... :(

[@XBnPC]

If Intel can get AMD'S nfo maybe they can compete without 400w

[@GainingDespair]

I wanna make a meme chart comparing the performance of the 7800x3D vs i3 12100F using a 750ti as the GPU. Of course settings would be high, and 4k I wonder how competitive that old i3 really is?

[@whpony96]

Yea, I've been done with ASUS for almost 10 years. (Too much of JJ spewing bulls#it about the crap software AI Suite 3 that does not work.) They are the very definition of "Too big for their britches". I'm just glad I made the move away from using and recommending them long ago.

[@michaeloneill1360]

Hey Paul, thanks for bringing up the 'Nefarious Ad Problem'; Turns out that Amazon is resorting to this 'Type of Greedy Cash Grab' as well! Bad enough I pay for a 'Prime Subscription' & now I have to Sit through Ads as well!!

[@claucmgpcstuf5103]

so finali intel realizd it is all ther folt !!! ..wel thi weil be a fert tine of meny caz wel ! NAD WAT THY HAV DONE .THA SAVARIT OF IT WEIL BE WEL YOU SI.. FAKT UP BIG TIME V4 0 waz gen 11 lol

[@garrettkajmowicz]

The Ryzen 5800XT could have been vaguely fun if they'd tried. They could have made corporate noises about "Maturing fabrication processes at TSMC" allowing for a reliable supply of higher-binned silicon. Not exceptional, but still somewhat interesting. Make a joke about how there's a competition in the engineering department to see who can get the next/last approved AM3 product launch. Ta da! You get a bit of good will and a bit more money from additional product segmentation. Instead they've managed to look scummy and take an own-goal for something unneeded.

[@craigdeeter8042]

AMD's bullcrap benchmarks - Have to agree with you. And it's sad. Why the hell would they think crap like this would fly? And it was totally unneeded. Any self identified tech geek understands that as process nodes mature, chips slowly get a bit better till they can be binned with higher clock speeds. All AMD had to do was say that "Hey we are now getting better frequencies out of these CPUs, and are using the XT suffix to identify them." I just don't get it.

[@andrewcoleman3741]

Google had one TINY little victory this week: They managed to finally fix whatever they broke in Chrome several versions back, that literally rendered the little icon onr the upvote button invisible, meaning it was impossible to tell if you'd already upvoted something you liked or not. Kudos, I guess? And nice own goal there, AMD. smh. You'd think they'd remember when just a couple of years ago, Intel would do those wild "apples to durians" comparisons of their mobile chips (while listing the ridonkulous settings disparities that nerfed AMD's movuile chip in the back of the slide decks for all to see and mock), and, oh, I dunno, maybe not engage in that same crap themselves. Ugh...

[@dexter2433]

I built a 8500g system using the InWin ChopMAX case you used for your sisters pc and been very happy with it love the look and very small size even plays Fortnight decent and being matx the MB was allot cheaper than a ITX build Thanks Paul the 8500g has become my main use pc on the cheep but still got enough power for lite gaming ...

[@deedas]

Not gonna lie, guys. I've tuned out of PC building. Prices are crap. Companies seem to actively work against their customers. I only watch a few tech videos here and there to support Paul, GN, and HU. They and their hard work deserve to keep their channels going.

[@remidee7276]

i love my 6900xt and 7800x3d. The price to performance is really good. While I have 4090 and 3080ti, i paid so much more then the 6900xt for not that much performance at 1440p

[@SpaceyMonkey75]

Not cool AMD, and totally unnecessary. Why drag yourselves through the muck by unspooling bad numbers to millions of users who crunch numbers for a living? Like, wtf?

[@peterjansen4826]

I am not convinced by Steve that AMD falsified the data, but AMD was dishonest and they cherrypicked settings which they usually don't do with their CPU-marketing. That sucks! I suspect that the marketing-department wanted to make the point that these older CPU's can be fine if you have a lower quality graphics card (the idea behind it is that people who are on a budget can choose that CPU if they buy a low tier graphics card) but if you want to show that (fine) then you should also show that with a higher quality graphics card it definitely is not fine and wasteful (needing to upgrade your CPU earlier again). I dislike the idea behind that marketing because the user might buy a midend graphics card 3 years later and then the CPU will strongly bottleneck the performance of the game.

[@LackofFaithify]

I'll add the rebranding of a large number of Ryzen 7000s to Epyc 4004 to bilk people out of another couple of bucks just for them putting another name on the box. Yes, exact same processors, just different shapes of ink that form the things we call letters and numbers.

[@hectorj.romanp.]

I don't know about value (price-performance) but that Ryzen 8500G at $160 looks like an interesting option for some people.

[@joaquinvelasquez6252]

Already burned from summer sun. 🥵

[@Turboy65]

AMD exists only to keep Intel from getting TOO lazy. Personally I think Nvidia should buy Intel and build new Intel CPUs that are far beyond anything Intel has ever been able to design or fabricate. I've never owned an AMD based machine and never will.

[@geekinasuit8333]

I can understand a bottleneck creating a tie, but why a slight performance increase over Intel? For people with older GPU's who do not want to upgrade, the comparison makes some sense, as long as it was disclosed for that reason. All of this crap, however, really no one cares about, and the Intel processor is barely any faster better than the AMD version, not to mention, there's more than certain performance issues to be mindful off, there's thermals, energy, cost, etc. Stopped watching Steve's channel years ago, too much winning about nothing, and I don't know why I clicked on this bait. I'm out.

[@mia4md]

Paul, I'm trying to get my co-workers to clean up their desktop files, by getting all their files to seperate drive and not on the desktop. My question is, does this even matter for the local/roaming profiles anymore for daily performance on windows 11? I believe it still have mass impact on performance.

[@merfax0000]

NVIDIA got lucky with it's "AI" chips. This is the same technology they have spent years creating for Crypto processing so they have a head start. But power houses like Intel will be close behind, and I can see much more competition in this space very soon.

[@MichaelSkinner-e9j]

If this is a clue from the green brothers, I’ve been a bachelor all my life. - I would never want to “watch”- I would immediately just leave. The Green Brothers just want to put garbage on my name