AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 4GB vs. 8GB, 1080p & 1440p Benchmarks

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

People should realize you can just buy the smaller GB model and just download more Vid/Memory on next bios update.

[@ariex0a]

Thanks, you experts at the verge always have my back!

[@KingOfCha0z]

Mr Comedy.

[@youbhoy5195]

Damn that's smart

[@keberiokst7]

Is this legit? Lol

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

@@keberiokst7 Totally legit. Its 2 Legit to quit.

[@Mi2Lethal]

RX 570 and 580 are immortal.

[@mnk47]

depend if have a good vrm

[@haydendesarem6555]

mnk47 why should that matter?

[@mace2gorc872]

I couldn't be any happier with my 570. Cost me only $75US.

[@everythingfeline7367]

@@haydendesarem6555 it shouldn't matter. Those cards sip power

[@jrherita]

Same perf as older gtx 970-980

[@MrDrfuuuur]

Steve, you said some very true things about competitive gaming and low settings. I just wanted to ask if you can, if possible, take some benchmarks of the 4gb 5500 xt and the 1650 Super at 1080p low settings to see if these cards are enough to push 144 hz monitors with games like Apex Legends/Overwatch/etc. As always thanks for the video, and have a great day!

[@dwaynestimpson5449]

RX580 refuses to die! 😂 5500XT 4GB should be in the $150 range and $170 for the 8GB

[@树底國]

Dwayne Stimpson to die for tdp

[@tumamew]

I bought the 5500XT 4GB for 160USD three weeks ago. I think it was worth it.

[@LuisZ31]

lol in latinamerica tha range starts from 200-280usd xD

[@KingOfCha0z]

@@LuisZ31 You can buy in Amazon from Colombia with free Shipping.

[@jasongooden917]

2:29 The 4GB version is 10 percent slower than the 4GB version...lol

[@silas232003]

This is why I love my GTX 1660 Super. Top of the line in the price range bracket, and still able to play triple AAA games at 1080 p and high settings.

[@gustavoalmeida1579]

To think that I've previously sold my RX 480 8GB thinking that those 5500 XT would make it loose value 🤣.

[@Bestgameplayer10]

Gustavo Almeida - If anything, it nearly increases their value. But I’m about to upgrade to a 5700 or 5700XT though.

[@fabwissler1245]

Old Performance with new Name..

[@bartoszbielawski8558]

this card is not a rx 570 replacemend, it's closer to rx 560

[@nathangamble125]

@@bartoszbielawski8558 By design, yes, but by price, no.

[@banner7310]

@@nathangamble125 sad times we live in

[@gsydaz]

Well explained Steve. It's an debate that rolls on. As a 1440p UW gamer it just has to be 8G of VRAM (or more) for me now.

[@wulfgarpl]

damn, my RX570 was almost free compared to those prices. I bought it new when mining boom ended for less than 100$

[@mnk47]

580 its 90$ not 570

[@ThatLaloBoy]

Same. Except I got it used and ended up getting an XFX RX 570 4GB for like $50. An absolute steal and a sizeable upgrade from my 750 Ti.

[@Bestgameplayer10]

Lalo - Yeah. Great for buyers, bad for sellers like me but oh well.

[@GrubKiller436]

It's not easy being a seller because consumers are very sensitive to price changes in the market (as they should be).

[@klontjespap]

in the following years... and the previous GTA5 already broke the 4gb barrier 4 years ago there's plenty of scenarios where the 8gb on the rx480 is worthwhile, by that logic it should be for this one too, then agian rx480 8gb models were cheaper than 4gb at some point :D on the vram thing, i already thought the 1060 3gb was kind of bullshit back 2 years ago, i prefer my textures crisp after the card ages a bit, others may say they just upgrade the damn thing, i'd rather sit them out for a bit longer :) for competetive playin i agree remember playing quake 1 in software renderer and d_mipcap 3 and d_mipscale to 3, to better spot players in that brown mess :D

[@Orcawhale1]

Except it didn't, in the case of GTA 5 it's just accolating vram to be safe, but it's actully not using that much. Check the old tests from Gamers nexus with the R9 390 and 970(You know the card with 3.5, and not full 4gb).

[@banner7310]

The 4gb 5500XT is what the 3gb 1060 was. In 2019 there should be 6 and 8gb variants for entry level cards like the 560 had a 2 and 4gb version. I say that bc This is a 560 replacement. $110 for 4gb and 8gb for $140 wouldve been perfect. It's a new node and architecture, so it's ok to charge abit more to cope for R&D, but currently its overpriced at for what's on offer. neither of em makes sense.

[@jeremygregorio7472]

The trouble is those scenarios usually only happen at 1080p. The only game I've seen break 4gb at 1080p is Final Fantasy 15, which so heavily favors nVidia that I can't see buying an AMD card for that game...

[@GabrielCarvalho-gd8op]

@@banner7310 The 5500 XT comes with 128-bit memory bus, it is impossible to get 6GB. Each GDDR6 memory chip comes in a 1GB or 2GB 32-bit and the card has 4 of them

[@klontjespap]

@@Orcawhale1 fair enough, didn't actually know that, i do know it starts going apeshit once it crosses 140fps orso, so you may not wanna pamper your card too much, i cranked up all the advanced settings too, and it went to shit on a 4gb card as soon as the water reflections got a but much, like really tanking it BAD, could be just gpu utilization, i don't remember lol, as i remember it it didn't have any presets, did it? then again, vram utilization varies a bit from card to card too doens't it? i could see an extra 200 mb with older cards that don't use tile-based rendering, but 500mb seems way out of order, since the maxwell 3.5 gb seemed to do fine indeed. end of the day i like my crisp textures, even if have to drop down settings when the core starts to struggle later on in its lifecycle, so i usually buy in the higher vram model, they sure seemed to have widened the price gaps on release days though, if you're willing to wait usually the higher vram model ends up the same price, which leads me to believe they stock them more, because they expect to sell more, but don't lol for the rx480 though, miners didn't need the vram, they needed the cheapest cards in batches, they were stuck with way more 8gbs until mining cooled off, polaris got totally hijacked by miners, couldn't get one of the fuckers for msrp until 10 months later :D

[@schneider1112]

Costs a fair bit more than the archaic RX590 and still performs worse.

[@raresmacovei8382]

590 Archaic? Depends on how you look at it. 590 launched December 2018, even if the uArch is from 2016.

[@mi-vanyan9092]

@ugaaa5 Which is an overclocked 480

[@AndrewTSq]

lol, it (rx5500xt) cost as much as a Vega56 here :-) (and as much as a gtx1660 super)

[@WayStedYou]

@ugaaa5 12nm 580*

[@zeedy1011]

@ugaaa5 made on 12 nm

[@adi6293]

I love Sapphire cards and only buy their cards but those 5500's are way overpriced, you can get Red Dragon 8GB 5500XT for less than the 4GB Pulse, GTFO with that Sapphire 😡😡

[@dra6o0n]

Low supply, high demand for these sort of card btw... It's not that widely available it seems. There are a lot of people wanting to upgrade but cannot afford entire system upgrades, and they are using 10 year old hardware.

[@depth386]

The answer is buy a 580 8G, 590 8G, or 1660 Super 6G depending on your budget. Do not, under any circumstances, buy a 5500 at current prices.

[@lmmlStudios]

i dont know exactly how youre doing the maths for your overall average fps graphs (8:25-10:05), but i am curious if you are just doing a standard average (sum/n). if you do then it will be heavily weighted to games with higher fps. e.g if you have 2 cards, and one gets 120 and 10 fps in 2 games, and the other gets 100 and 12 fps in 2 games, then despite both winning by 20% in each game, the first card will have an average of 65 and the second 56 obviously thats an extreme example, but there is games in these tests with 34 fps and others with 120, its possible this could skew the final results to games that require less resources so therefore have higher fps though you could argue that the tests with more playable (smoother) fps are more important due to a better experience. just interested

[@totallyjerd1751]

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it would be more beneficial to divide the averages into sections (i.e. low-fps games, high-fps games). Edit: to be fair, they did account for this issue a bit by doing game-by-game percentage comparisons between these two cards.

[@sillyszili2593]

4GB 100W vs 8GB 200W. dude i have 4GB and 300W xD (R9 290X)

[@Lethalwick5673]

lol

[@johnbuscher]

Could be worse, I used to use a GTX 280 which was a 280W 2GB card lmao

[@sopianwahyudi]

Kek

[@DiegoAmsapomac]

What a Time to be alive.

[@kianmoiny7860]

“No bad products just bad prices”

[@mkheree]

Thank you for the video. Using RX 580-8 GB here since 2017

[@YourCRTube]

580 came 2017

[@dinkthesink3890]

U must be troll .

[@mkheree]

Sorry. It was 2017*

[@insomnia9224]

Really Helpful.. Well done as always..!!❤

[@AnalogFoundry]

Next year around this time will be an interesting time for PC GPUs, plus the release of new next-gen PS5/XSX consoles. AMD is price gouging at the moment.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

If MS and maybe even Sony can finally let you use their consoles more as PC's with say an optional Windows OS purchase then they become even better propositions for students and the like who don't have much money for gaming PC's. I would seriously be looking at this if I were in MS's shoes. Their new console is certainly going to have an x86 chip that is more than capable of running a full desktop OS and becoming hybrid budget gaming PC's.

[@MashupsByMandy]

They are not price gouging, they are maintaining stock of it by making it not as appealing for now while there is still RX 570 and RX 580 on the market. After there are less RX 500 series cards available they will cut down the price to effectively substitute the RX 500 series for the 5500 XT.

[@Najvalsa]

@Eder 120v I wouldn't quite say "on the horizon", when they're a year away.

[@mix3k818]

Broken Games If the modern low-end cards are junk, then what is my GT 9600?

[@GewelReal]

@@mix3k818 even my GTX 760 is not a graphics card anymore according to such people 😂

[@bennymoo17]

lol watching this in march of 2021. You cant find a single card on this list at the prices. despite it being now older technology RIP

[@lwvmobile]

Same here. Can't find anything at a reasonable price that isn't shady or shipped from China.

[@toddratson7526]

I just built new computers for both my kids Christmas presents. AMD R5-2600 with 120mm CLC, 16GB RAM and RX-580 8GB. The old ones were core2 duos with GTS-450 video. They are very, very happy. I got the last RX-580 for just $225 Canadian delivered. Really good value in my neck of the woods.

[@dw8555]

Isn't anyone curious as to why having 4gb of memory is more limiting for a rx 5500 xt vs a gtx 1650 super?

[@Hardwareunboxed]

Could be memory compression or driver optimization.

[@uglyduckling81]

architecture isn't as efficient with memory.

[@feelingtardy]

i was thinking memory compression too. i know people say amd cards produce better images due to nvidia memory compression. i have no idea if i'm even remotely correct on that one though, lol, but there have been videos about it.

[@jonson856]

The 5500xt has a little more CUs than the 1650 super has cuda cores. And in general AMD cards are more bandwidth starved, which is due do the memory compression.

[@josh223]

@@feelingtardy I heard that was the reason that google went with radeon for stadia

[@Lollakuk]

Damn seriously your videos just keeps getting better and better. That discussion in the end is just so spot on. Keep it up mates!

[@UncannySense]

4gb seems bare minimum if the 1060 3gb numbers are anything to go by.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

In a year or two max, 6gb could be the bare minimum and people like me who have an Nvidia 6gb card [2060] will be in trouble perhaps.

[@tafarimakonnan1763]

@@NatrajChaturvedi you will be fine Nvidia has good vram compression capabilities.

[@jvans93]

@@NatrajChaturvedi No kidding. I don't know why anyone here isn't considering the fact that a new generation of consoles are being released in 12 months and the requirements for games will adjust accordingly. Textures are fucking huge already and will keep going up. At this point I would not consider buying a GPU with less than 6 GB vram. 8 should be the minimum now

[@mulando5232]

Wait, what? (15:50) The upcomming xbox will have 16GB GDDR6 and of that 13GB available for games? Where does that info come from?

[@hegecauliflowergaming]

Do not buy a 5500 XT, buy a 590/580 instead or wait for the 5600 series.

[@imeldomarcos4126]

The 1660 is decent for the price. But a used rx 580 will beat this in value.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

God only knows when the 5600 series will come if they took so long to launch this card and judging from AMD's GPU launches in the last couple of years, the pricing is not going to be that amazing either so waiting for that makes no sense at all. 580/590 are good buys as you said but if somebody wants a faster card, 1660S is also very decent.

[@dinkthesink3890]

@@NatrajChaturvedi Rx 5600 is launching early January according to leaks and priced around 250-260$ that's going to be successor true successor to Rx 580

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

@@dinkthesink3890 AMD have now shown they are willing to price above Nvidia's MSRP also so the price is anyone's guess but you are free to dream on...

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

@@dinkthesink3890 btw what great successor it will be! all of 30% if that better performance after all these years and so many gpu launches!

[@chamotyannis]

In France the 5500 xt 4gb cost 220€(2.59€/fps) while the 1650 super cost 170€ (2€/FPS) and the 5500 xt 8gb cost 235€ (2.67€/fps) while the 1660 super cost 250€(2.48€/fps) so Nvidia has a way better value

[@_DarkEmperor]

13:39 - 4GB vs 6GB vs 8GB - It really depends how long are You going to stick with Your GPU. If You want to keep this GPU for 1 year, than go ahead and buy 4GB GPU. If You want to keep GPU for 3 years than buy 8GB or at least 6GB.

[@jameysummers1577]

I just had a customer want an upgrade from an Rx480 to this Rx 5500xt, and I have to say that his overclocked 480 outperformed the 5500xt by a small margin(about 2%). This 5500xt needs to be $120-$160 maybe. The other thing is that this may be a great 480 and this may be a bad 5500xt lottery wise.

[@skilled-person]

RX 5500 XT the card nvidia loves, from what i see right now AMD is marketing for GTX 1660 super

[@SmarterGaming]

There is a minor problem with the cost analysis as of right now... on Amazon and Newegg there is only one model of the 1650 Super on each site that is actually available and in stock at $160 (avg price is about $175 & $180 for all models listed respectively, many are out of stock, for example on Newegg there is only one 1650 super for $160 & one for $229 that's all that are available). Same problem with the RX 5500 XT as the 4gb is not even listed on Amazon at all and the only 8gb version available to order is has a future available date of 12/19 at $200. Then on Newegg the lowest price for an out of stock 4gb 5500 is listed as $174 (including required shipping) and the cheapest 8gb available is $194 (including shipping). But, you can buy a RX 590 for $170 or $180 in stock now on Newegg, which makes the RX 590 or an RX 580 8gb for $145 or $160 in stock (they include games/xbox premiums too) so the RX 580/590 are much better deals than the 1650 super or RX 5500 with the current prices and premiums... So the cost analysis is all messed up due to lack of availability and the product not being available at the prices used in the chart. Let's hope AMD and Nvidia get their acts together and make things available at more reasonable prices.

[@nullzero821]

Dec 2019 5500 xt: I'm more efficient rx580: I'll keep you warm ;D

[@jounikyronen5425]

heaters do heating

[@dra6o0n]

AMD drastically clocked it way lower than it needs to be... If it uses the same wattage as the 580 it definitely out performs it.

[@legendaryeyad4511]

Rx 5500xt 4gb is a little bit cheaper than the gtx1650 super in my country which one do you suggest

[@davidpinheiro5295]

On games where you've done an optimization guide maybe use those settings!

[@arokh72]

I was about the say that haha. RDR2 using the HuB optimisation guide runs brilliantly on my RX580 8GB @1080p.

[@Bestgameplayer10]

arokh72 - Exactly. I don’t get the point of using any of the RDRII presets particularly with these midrange GPUs.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

If they had supply issues then they [and we] were better off not launching a card at all. At least the XT version meant for desktops. After all this time, they should have carried on making Epic and Ryzen CPU's which are making all the money for them. Oh and supplying Sony and MS too but I would imagine that is not as lucrative right now at the tail end of this console generation.

[@poronite]

I need a successor to the RX 550 or maybe a apu with gddr5 vram.

[@poronite]

@Iama Dinosaur Well I don't live in America, where the prices are good, my psu is only 350w and I don't have a lot of money since I'm a student. I have a r3 2200g so if AMD released a apu with gddr5 that cost 100€ that would be great. But obviously making a cheap apu with dedicated memory is difficult so I would be satisfied with a successor to the 550. I was thinking about buying a 460/560 but in my country it's 120-130€, which isn't very appealing.

[@Oneath]

@@poronite Get a used 570 4GB on Ebay ;)

[@darthybai]

At 10:51 , shouldn't it be 5.33% slower on average and not 14%?

[@yarchieduke]

Which one to buy? Neither...

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Steve, 😲 I almost spat out my drink when you said US buyers can get a new RX580 8GB for as low as $150, that's nearly half the price of here in Aus, also that Graph of $$$ per frame is getting more entries at the top with RX570 & RX580, woohoo! more competion = more choice also at 14:00 your explanation of 'VRAM NEEDS' & how it can vary depending on the types of games you play & setting you use was great, Hmmm opposing opinions can both be right or wrong depending on situations, Who'da Thought 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@chaoticneutral393]

Neither since 1650 Super is cheaper with same performance and sometimes more.

[@screwb1882]

Both the 8 and 4gb 5500XT is cheaper than the 1650 super in the US. IDK where you get your information. Its also clearly faster in anything recent.

[@h1tzzYT]

As i bought gtx 650 ti boost 1gb vram version instead of 2gb long time ago i will never get gpu with less vram if possible, and i strongly disagree with your opinion that its worth picking gpu with less vram, if the price is not marginally higher, especially if gpu is strong enough to handle that amount of vram. Texture quality is one of the most impactful graphics setting in a video games. And once you run out of vram you are in deep trouble though not as big as cpu scenario, which you gave us and i agree with, but you are forced to make huge compromises taking texture setting to low, which will make game look significantly worse or leave it and get massive stutters when you look around.

[@Sziklapeti]

Don't mind me just helping the YT algorithms.

[@stephenblanck6986]

Steve, great video! Looking forward to the yearly 'how much ram do you need' video.

[@positive_energy3131]

Neither one for now, just wait for the price cut, and get the 8gb model.

[@michaelmiguelsanchez]

Looks like I'll still be hanging onto my RX 580 8GB. It's a trooper.

[@matrixfull]

Wishful cost per frame should be always included in benchmarks : ]

[@christislord4608]

I was so ready to wait for the 5500(XT) but my GPU broke down at the start of this week. So I could no longer wait. Now I got myself the Gigabyte RX5700. NO RAGRETS

[@frankmnmediagaming]

My sapphire nitro+ 470 8Gb just broke too after 3 years 2 months of service. I'd like to get the same card as you but the economy in my country is so bad.

[@johnbuscher]

Framani Man, that sucks. I’ve never had a GPU fail, but I usually replace them every two years or so, and a lot of my computers are dedicated to gaming, so I only turn them on when I need to.

[@kirbyswarp]

@@johnbuscher next time I upgrade the gpu I'll probovly need a new motherboard/cpu/ram. 1070 is the upper limit of a 3770

[@tbentertainment632]

guys R5 3600 ($243) R7 2700 ($266) in india. which one should i buy , looking at then new xbox and it has 8c/16t ...for gaming in 2020 which is better ?

[@maxx3613]

TB entertainment R5 3600

[@yvalson6534]

R5 3600 will give better gaming performance for prob about 4-5 years then it might shift but since the Xbox uses zen 2 as well so its lead might get bigger

[@caileanhenry8574]

r5 3600

[@boingkster]

No problems with my R5 3600 here, it sits about 25 to 35% utilisation in most games, with a fully utilised GTX1070Ti. I think it'll be fine for about 4 to 5 years before it really starts to age, and thats assuming I can get a graphics card 3 to 4 times as powerful as the 1070Ti.

[@tbentertainment632]

@@yvalson6534 ok thanks but tech deal keeps saying 8 core is important and both xbox and ps5 has 8 core and 16 T .... man i don't want to regret buying the wrong one ..... i am a student and don't have cash for upgrading every 2 yrs.

[@Dragon211]

Thanks for all the effort you do to make these very informative videos! Was really hoping the 5500 was going to be the saviour that a lot of us gamers wanted but looks like I'm better of stretching my budget and getting an RX 5700XT, most likely the sapphire one.

[@krugec23]

for me there is an added layer, local shops always stack 10-20% on msrp price so I fear next week I will see the 5500 xt 8gb priced same as an dual 1660 super,in that case its a no brainer to buy the 1660 super

[@johnbuscher]

tomo123 I was actually looking at the 1660 Super to replace my R9 Nano to get more VRAM and not draw too much more power for a sff build, but after checking reviews, it seems the 1660S doesn’t quite beat it hard enough for me to buy it. Who knew the Nano would last this long?

[@ottoernst3735]

They really need to lower the price by $50 for the 8 gig and $30 for the 4 gig

[@ElZamo92]

Neither, buy a faster and cheaper RX 590.

[@p3wx4]

No? The power consumption of 590 is too high. It's better to go for a used GTX 1060 or RX 580.

[@perfectdiversion]

@@p3wx4 who cares about power consumption on a desktop

[@p3wx4]

@@Pillokun Only 12 years old kid who use their parents money to buy GPU and make their parents pay the electricity bill won't care about power consumption. For those having to pay their own bills would definitely care about power consumption of their appliances. If I were to buy RX 590 over a GTX 1650 super, I'd have to pay an equivalent of $60 EXTRA per year on electricity bill ( at least where I live. ) If I were to use these GPUs for more than 8-10 hours a day, then the consideration of power consumption is MUST. But, 12 years old who never pay their bills would never understand.

[@PreacherwithoutaPulpit]

@@p3wx4 So shut off a few of the lights you've always got turned on and open the blinds on a few windows during the daytime, problem solved. Most of these newer GPUs only use a little over your standard old school 100 watt light bulb does. So the argument about power consumption really is just BS and marketing lies/obfuscation. Like I said if you truly are worried about it find other places in your home where you can cut your consumption. It pains me to say it but simply don't build a gaming PC if you're worried about it. All of these cards are not that far apart when in comes to electricity used except when comparing the Low End, Entry Level Cards to the higher portion of the Mid-Level or truly high end...

[@tafarimakonnan1763]

@@p3wx4 wow $60 dollars per year. At those numbers I'll be bankedrupt 2 years tops.Truth is if you're so worried about spending $60 extra a year you probably shouldn't be able to afford a PC anyway.

[@horrocko]

Thanks for mentioning that in some games VRAM issues don't even show up in the blue bars, as the game automatically removes textures or reduces their quality. Skews the whole debate slightly towards "more is better".

[@modderhoop2058]

Gtx 1660 super just chilling at the top

[@excelsiusprime]

Rx 5500 XT on the top with 1660 Super as well... But in price list.

[@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure]

*** People going for 1660 Super after researching and waiting for RX 5500 XT hoping it would be a value card *** *1660 Super* : You could not live with your own failure, where did that bring you? Back to me.

[@obake6290]

AMD has done so well on the CPU side that I would really like to give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe its a little unfair to compare launch price of a new product to discount prices on last gen. Smart from a consumer perspective, but maybe unrealistic. Then I actually looked at the launch prices of the RX500 series. Nevermind that benefit of the doubt thing. The new low end is the same price and performance as the old high end, and it just goes up from there. I knew the 5700 and 5700XT were overpriced, but at least better than nvidia. The 5500XT can't even claim that.

[@kestrel8838]

Looks like it's AMD for CPUs and NVIDIA for graphics cards.

[@VEN0M415]

I mean I go by the motto "never get a cpu or gpu if its not on sale", definitely another card to get at a massive discount, its power draw is pretty good so thats something that would make me consider it over the 580

[@hub1986]

It all kinda depends on where you live though at my country is this MSI GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER VENTUS XS OC=220 Euro (no idle fan) Sapphire Radeon RX 5500 XT 4GB Pulse=230 Euro MSI GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER GAMING X=240Euro Powercolor Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB Red Dragon=235 Euro 1660 cards being at 270 euro and up not the super one Keep in mind rx 580/590 starts about 250 Euro up to 400 euro in my country nvidia in my country are way overpriced maybe it has to do with my countrys currency as we dont use euro here using euro for you my mates.

[@dra6o0n]

Considering that it's not on Amazon.ca, it's not very much available world wide so the price is NOT consistent. Remember that the base price here is in USD, or 220 USD, meaning it will be more elsewhere. It's not available in Canada for another reason... We have TOO MUCH RX 580 left over.

[@theSnapcaseLIVE]

1650Super is best FPS per $. You can use it with competitive settings CSGO and Fortnite 240hz, and Apex, PUBG, Modern Warfare 120/144hz. What more could you want for the price.

[@cornflake2563]

Wanna go high tier? Rx 5700XT/ RTX 2080 Wanna go mid-high tier? Rx 5700 Wanna go mid tier? gtx 1660S Wanna go mid-low end? Rx 580 Wanna go low end? Gtx 1650S/Rx570 (Get the one that suits your budget) Graphics card market is so fucking messy and confusing rn, thanks to the dickheads with suits and ties and cheesy smiles running the companies towards monopoly.

[@pandabuttonftw745]

4GB is just honestly no longer enough for modern games in 2019/2020. Not on a card this price.

[@aaronporter2180]

@@brokengames9020 basically all graphics cards are these days

[@TT-cf8dz]

Excalis Ogre lord Far Cry New Dawn at ultra needs arround 8gb vram :)) and i play at 1080p on a gtx 1070 g1.

[@GewelReal]

I beg to differ. Those cards are not powerful enough to suffer from not enough VRAM anyway

[@ShamanKish]

Don't see enough improvement to upgrade from RX 570 4GB.

[@cornflake2563]

@@ShamanKish same

[@Xaltar_]

Ha, first What I find surprising is how well the RX 590 still does. In most titles it is matching or beating the 1660. Mine handles 1440p with high/mixed settings with no issues and maxed out at 1080p. Basically, it comes down to whether or not power consumption is important to you, if not, the RX 590 will probably perform better for around the same price as the 5500xt. If power is a concern then the 5500xt is a LOT more power efficient but the 1650 Super is even more efficient and performs closely enough to make it a better choice IMO. I am happy with my 590 but for many the efficiency could be a problem.

[@Skylancer727]

Definitely not. Your comment says "16 minutes ago" while only scrolling down like 6 comments I see one that says "20 minutes ago".

[@TheKingPrawn114]

Priced to clear the shelves...of 580s and 570s.

[@fakeusertas721]

Rx 570 and 580 still (good price and performance) or GTX 1650S and GTX 1660S

[@giserson2]

Kind of like the 2gb gtx 960, makes mostly no big difference today, but in the future it's going to struggle.

[@FeTiProductions]

living proof

[@banner7310]

If u play at 720-900p low sure. I was able to hit 60fps with a 2gb RX560.

[@nioktefe8205]

Can you test with a ryzen 3000 cpu, maybe pcie 4.0 can reduce the performance hit from less vram ?

[@10GreenDragon10]

Was thinking the same

[@DeadNoob451]

No, since these cards dont nearly saturate the PCIe 3.0 bandwidth fully (even a 2080ti does not). Having even more bandwidth that the card does not use will not make it any faster.

[@nioktefe8205]

@@DeadNoob451 The performance hit comes either from latency to dram or from bandwidth, bandwidth is definitly higher, and I assume latency also may go lower with 4.0 Also a 2080ti is not memory starved so yeah I fully expect it to not really use pcie at all.

[@g3neralcross911]

Hey compare them with a 980ti interested to see how it’s ages over the years tbh

[@IndyMiraaga]

How did you get Very High settings on the 1060 3GB? I have the EVGA SC version in my old build and it wasn't happy with that whatsoever, dropping below 60 fps even at 1080p. I also have an FX-8350, but I didn't think it would be affected as much by texture quality when compared to resolution.

[@0Wayland]

don't be a fool, get a card with an eight gig pool

[@ThatLaloBoy]

These cards aren't powerful enough for the vram to be a bottleneck. It's like recommending 32 GB of RAM for someone with an Celeron processor.

[@Hevethee]

@@ThatLaloBoy Exactly who buys ~200$ card and is expecting it to go 1440p max setting, minimun of 60fps.

[@dapz]

@@ThatLaloBoy re2 will suck up to 12GB of VRAM at 1080p.

[@FullchanAnon]

Just a few fucking hours ago, all I heard was praise for the RX 5700 XT. Now that I have the whole rig built, all I'm fucking seeing is people bashing my newly bought card. What the actual fuck? Did I slip into an alternate dimension AGAIN?

[@valorantgamer6123]

Major disappointment from amd :(

[@DzeDavis]

A.M.D = a major disappointment

[@speckbomber7219]

DzeDavis wrong

[@perfectdiversion]

Amd win at CPUs but can't win at gpus

[@ArkturusRX]

name a gpu release that replaced previous generation and had lower price, I´ll wait

[@apostolos4ever]

Štefan Šuba they didn’t have lower price but they usually have better performance. After so many years with Polaris we expected a respectable performance uplift. We got nothing, only better power efficiency for which we don’t really care. Aka a major disappointment

[@kemita]

My nvidia 770 just died and I'm looking for a replacement at 1080p. I'm trying to educate myself as much as possible before deciding for either a RX 5500 or a 1650s and these kind of videos do help a lot. Thanks a lot for these benchmarks.

[@DeadNoob451]

Also consider the 570/580 cards.

[@wuttho]

With the new drivers, it defeats the 1660 super

[@aaronlaorrabaquio4230]

Really??

[@JayzBeerz]

nope wrong

[@gavjlewis]

I expect a $20 reduction in price in the new year ($150 4GB, $180 8GB) when the RX 5600XT is announced.

[@pauls4522]

Yup 150$/180$ is the most realistic price drop within the next month or so. 140$ 4gb, 170$ 8gb would be most ideal of course.

[@Noxar_cz]

Btw with Igors tool it can be overclocked all the way up to 2,1GHz, 2,2 if you get really good silicon. Price is still quite meh tho.

[@Skylancer727]

yeah, even with the power play mods, the price is ridiculous for such a small die and neither being a performance boost over the previous cards the same price as them.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

You really don't get much benefit once you go over 1950 ghz tho. I don't own a Navi card but people say its a lot like Pascal on which performance benefit went down once you went above 2 ghz...

[@Noxar_cz]

@@Skylancer727 Yeah, it's most likely due to the supply issues, TSMC 7nm capacity is quite low, I mean the 5500 was supposed to launch about 2 months ago but there simply wasn't enough dies except for OEMs, and why would AMD make more low end Navis if they can make more high margin EPYCs instead.

[@imeldomarcos4126]

Well 1060 beating this card bad.

[@imeldomarcos4126]

I mean 2060

[@DrSpychology]

I'm confused why this and the 1650 super are marketed as "1080p gaming cards" when they hit 60fps average @1440p max settings! Aren't they underselling their products? I've got an RX 570 4GB for about a year and I always play @1440p on that card, which usually requires just a few tweaks in the settings or some optimised settings from Tim!

[@commonpcuser7619]

AMD really needs to drop the prices, significantly, you can get the 570/580/590s 8 Gb models between 160$ and 200$. This is ridiculous. 4 Gb cards are gonna be history and in some games they already are. The 5600 series and the new RDNA2 cards are coming next year, taking that into account this release was a total bust. Just a 20-30$ more you can get a significant performance boost from Nvidia. And if you need a budget card around 200$ dollars get the older AMD cards, they're still solid performers. AMD you done Fk'd up.

[@screwb1882]

Why would they need to drop prices? They are better than the 1650 super at the same price and if you buy a RX 570/580/590 they are still selling you a card. AMD isn't a charity.

[@commonpcuser7619]

@@screwb1882 i can get a 1650 super for 200€ the RX 5600 XT is gonna cost around 300€, hows that the same price???

[@commonpcuser7619]

@@screwb1882 also i can get a 1660 super around 250€ and the 1660 Ti for 300€ or less.

[@actias_official]

Hello Steve and comments. I am having a tough time deciding for a entry level GPU for a build I make for my nephew. There is RX5500XT Sapphire Nitro and GTX 1650 Super MSI Gaming, that we will be choosing from but I have no idea which one would be a better performer. How much would be the difference between nitro and pulse models for rx5500xt?

[@IIMANIXII]

Was that a copper NVME - Gigabyte not messing around Bwoi!

[@sonicjms]

ended up recommending the 4GB 5500XT to a friend the other day, the iceborne deal (a game he was planning to buy on launch) pushed it over the edge but there wasn't room in the budget for the 8GB, but yeah for most people 1650 Super or RX 580 8GB. Hopefully AMD memory compression gets better with updates

[@RighteousBruce]

Once the price goes down a little which it will.... itl be a good card.

[@supremepuffs1323]

Did it ever go down young one

[@BudgetPCGamers]

Should i add rx 5500 XT 4GB OR 8GB to my channel for benchmark?? I already have rx 570 4gb and 1650 super on my channel

[@flyingpigmonkey1]

Just gonna stick with my 1060 6gig for another year I guess.

[@Lhawga]

flyingpigmonkey1 what do you play

[@bartoszbielawski8558]

@@Lhawga no difference... 1060 6gb is enough for all games in full hd

[@flyingpigmonkey1]

@@Lhawga right now mostly destiny 2 but I plan on getting BL3 and cyberpunk among others in the future.

[@TRRkosay]

Two days before RX 5500's launch, I was looking at gtx 1660 in flash deal for 170€, and was unsure if I should buy it or wait for new radeons to come out. Few minutes before deal ended I pulled trigger and bought it. I am sooo glad I did (^u^) (RX 5500 4gb is roughly 200€ here.

[@mridho4070]

And here I am, playing World of Warships at 30 fps on lowest possible settings

[@prajwalghogare6055]

Me who uses geforce 210:- (゜゜)

[@mridho4070]

@@prajwalghogare6055 I'm using 310m (mobile version of 210) :/

[@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure]

GTA V single player 720p lowest settings 20fps unstable which goes as low as 15fps in city areas lmao

[@bartoszbielawski8558]

@@mridho4070 upgrade what's the problem...

[@mridho4070]

@@bartoszbielawski8558 laptop gpu (mostly) aren't upgradable

[@potatoslayer8139]

Do you guys plan on reviewing the new 12nm r5 1600? Heard it's a 2600 die running on 1600 clocks but for $85. Wondering how much of a performance gain it has compared to the old 14nm 1600

[@cameronb2765]

🙄I'm running 3200g (vega 8) and r7 270x, for graphics in my pc's I can't pass judgment lol

[@andreioprea1813]

can you run both apu and gpu at the same time?

[@cameronb2765]

@@andreioprea1813 I have tried but not very hard i'm told it possible but havnt seen it yet

[@darchandarchan7036]

Cameron Barnes you can try in some Vulkan titles that allows mgpu mode(i think wolfenstein does so)

[@darchandarchan7036]

also 270x is a good little gpu, especially overclocked.

[@cameronb2765]

@@darchandarchan7036 sapphire toxic 270x, but havnt overclocked it but very long graphics card

[@xmj6830]

Would it be just a good card for photo editing under Photoshop? My old Radeon HD7700 1GB cannot do the job anymore since recent updates from Adobe...I feel I really need more VRAM! Many thanks for your help

[@jebotex]

There is no point of this new cards you can just buy rx 590 and it u will be fine

[@excelsiusprime]

Forget about 500 series. Right now, depends on your budget you go for 1650 Super or 1660 Super, other gpu doesn't make sense.

[@johnbuscher]

EXCELSIUS Or you could buy a 580 for cheaper than a 1650 Super and beat it in most games. That’s the better budget option.

[@nathangamble125]

@@excelsiusprime The 500 series is about as fast as the 1650 Super while being much cheaper. It's the better choice if you're not making an ultra-quiet build and if your electricity is free or cheap.

[@excelsiusprime]

@@nathangamble125 in my region they cost the same, but 165S consumes 2x less power, faster in most games except battlefield, wolfenstein, but the thing is in these games difference is like 90 and 110 fps which is really doesn't matter, BUT gtx 1650 Super beat 588 in games like AC and in these games performance difference does matter, additional 10 fps when you play under 60 fps is a huge factor.

[@excelsiusprime]

@@johnbuscher in most games, you mean like 3 and in games where both cards hit higher than 65+ fps.

[@VoldoronGaming]

Good video, Steve. Choked. The 128 bit memory interface it appears chokes this card in some titles. They should have made this a 192 bit memory interface card and bumped the stream processors up by 30% to 1830. In some titles it shows that the nvidia image compression is at play in some games. Now for the prices you mentioned at the end of the video. 140(4gb)/170(8gb) sounds about right

[@makingPAIN]

So just buy a rx570 and oc it... or just buy rx580 and be happy at this price point

[@ThatLaloBoy]

As someone with a RX 570, I completely agree. Maybe if you want to have high quality 1080p, then the 580 is probably worth it. But anyone who is on a budget, the RX 570 4GB is enough for the majority of games and is pretty damn good value if you can find it for cheap.

[@blopp6240]

Just don't get 4 GB version it's outdated now

[@mandez3498]

Considered waiting for these to drop before getting my PC, glad I got a 1660 Super instead.

[@tortuga7160]

good looking cards though. Pulse line is great

[@Dracossaint]

To tortuga!

[@BlueNeptune84]

Thank you for the work & information on the graphic cards.

[@khaled.aldajani]

Well looks like i am keeping my GTX 1050 Ti for another year

[@imeldomarcos4126]

Get the 2060 .

[@imeldomarcos4126]

I mean the 1660. Very confusing naming convention from nvidia. The 1660 is the best value for money now.

[@dinkthesink3890]

Enjoy 900p 30fps

[@markohorvat4901]

@@imeldomarcos4126or 1660 super

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

@@imeldomarcos4126 lol 1050ti was $140 MSRP at launch and you want him to now pay $350 for an upgrade? lol ok... BTW,1050ti owners still have some decent options for upgrades at lower prices like 1660 or even 1650S. Its us gtx 1060 and rx 480/580 buyers who still haven't gotten a single decent upgrade option from either company!

[@peterhermina656]

How much faster is the 5700 & 5700XT models? 20% & 30% respectively?

[@jonathanellis6097]

I'm with Tim! I like stories, and eye candy!

[@Luisml8]

What impress me the most is the RX590 always very close to the 1660super

[@pimmanders2261]

I never hear about the rx 570 8 gb.....😕

[@2502nazar]

On my channel

[@pauls4522]

What a lot of these benchmarks teach us, in games these cards are more bottlenecked by the power of the gpu rather than the vram.

[@robertkubrick3738]

Because you might as well get the 580/8

[@pimmanders2261]

@@robertkubrick3738 stating the obvious.....🙃

[@robertkubrick3738]

@@pimmanders2261 Wasn't obvious to him or he wouldn't have asked.

[@hinatashoyo2999]

please do a video on how to calibrate ur montior without calibration tools !!