AMD Ryzen 5 5600G APU Review & Benchmarks: $260 CPU + GPU (vs. 5600X & More)

[@GamersNexus]

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[@rarebrowntal1643]

Would it be possible if you can test the 5700g with blender or unreal? Im hoping to use it for my work if its worth upgrading from my 2400g

[@redpillgymnast]

FYI you said don’t buy the DDR5 version in the video.

[@Paraclef]

thanks for the subtitles

[@porforyticbasalt]

the new blue mouse pad is nice, also the coffee mug is great.

[@rawdez_]

...and now we need Ryzen 5 5600G overclocked review, with memory/iGPU/cores OC. doesn't look like a complete review without OC.

[@BromTeque]

I'd be interested to see how memory speed and timings scale on APUs compared to CPU+dedicated.

[@GamersNexus]

Thanks for the comment! If enough people are interested in this, we can run it through!

[@surewhynot6259]

@@GamersNexus +1

[@sysakPL]

@@GamersNexus yep i keep hearing about this being a thing but have not actually seen it proven to the level you are able to. Got a 5600x and a rx 6800, would not even consider an apu and i'm still interested

[@breong1]

@@GamersNexus definitely!

[@loz9324]

Yes

[@skoopsro7656]

Forsure do a dedicated memory overclocking special with this chip. Its one of the biggest selling points of these for the enthusiast market. Theres a good minority of memory overclocking diehards who will love tinkering with these and will want to know exactly how they compare to the 4000 series APUs.

[@bobobobo1693]

Ah yes, comparing this new APU with their previous would be amazing since they didn't change the GPU inside and barely increase the performance of the CPU (Increase to base clock, boost clock and L3 Cache).

[@ironmantooltime]

@@bobobobo1693 cpu performance is increased as is zen 3 from zen 2

[@nathansstuff1547]

@@bobobobo1693 Uh... Zen 2 to Zen 3 was a decent enough performance increase. The 5600G has half the cache of the 3600, yet matches or beats it by a little in most cases.

[@WillFuI]

Buildzoid loved his 4750g. Can’t wait to see how far he pushed infinity fabric on these cpus and speed and timings

[@bobobobo1693]

@@ironmantooltime never said it didn't increased, I said it increased marginally, 0.2Mhz to the boost and base with an extra 8mb in L3. Watch ETA prime video, his benchmark aren't the best I'll admit, with games all over and different ram but it'll give you an idea.

[@fringetheory1162]

This CPU aged really well. In most places I've checked recently, its 20-30% cheaper than 5600X. That is a significant price reduction for not that super significant performance loss. The iGPU is a good thing to have even if you never use it as a primary video device, if you ever need to troubleshoot a PC, or if your GPU breaks or anything else, iGPU is a lifesaver. It doesn't happen every day of course, but its a very, very good thing to have. Overall, it's a very, very good CPU right now, especially for end-of-the-road cpu for AM4 boards. Pair it with like 6650XT or 6700Xt and you'll have basically end of life machine with very decent performance for the next couple of years, at least. This CPU is in that weird category where it's not the absolute best, but it's best value for money, and it can't really be upgraded any further, so you can easily buy it now and avoid buyer's regret later, since nothing will really beat these CPU's in that specification anymore.

[@edwardbirks1558]

Perfect description.

[@roahnosh]

100% true in 2023. Prince is insanely good right now. mobo price too.

[@Chris3s]

A bit late here, but do you know of a way to turn off your dedicated GPU while using this and turn back on when you want to use it for demanding games? Trying to limit my power usage and noise levels here, thanks

[@fringetheory1162]

@@Chris3s I mean, just go to your GPU's control panel. Pretty sure you can set app's to use iGPU or dGPU there, at least in Nvidia panel you can.

[@Chris3s]

@@fringetheory1162 the GPU is still on though, was wondering if it can be turned off without unplugging it

[@JoeWithTheGlasses]

Finally, sensible CS:GO testing, 1080p Medium settings is pretty representative of what many users use, maybe even a little higher than the average regular player's settings.

[@GamersNexus]

Yeah, could always go lower in CS. It'd be awesome if Valve published data on how many people use each settings configuration!

[@desangrador5770]

1080p low with my 3200G and dual channel, and it goes like 80+ FPS in classics maps like Dust 2, Mirage, etc

[@-eMpTy-]

@@GamersNexus Most people play with a resolution below 1080p and most settings set to low. 1024x768, 1280x960, 1440x1080p. Stretched to 16:9. Makes models wider.

[@ericta5492]

I feel that a casual player would play at around 1080p medium-high. Which most people will probably be more casual then competitive. Most competitive players will probably play with resolutions lower than 1080p and closer to around 720p, with mainly low settings with a mix of a few high settings here and there, like shadows or shaders on high with everything else on low. Obviously there are some exceptions, like ropz. From what I’ve seen a lot of pros play on 1280x960 with low settings and higher shaders, shadows and anti aliasing. I might be wrong though.

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

@@-eMpTy- Most pros or hardcore players do yes. But the joke here is you can go find out what people are using, and the actual majority use 1080p low. Now if you take the player base and divide it based on total play time, the ones with more time played would track well with what you said.

[@-eMpTy-]

Please do a follow up with overclocking results including CPU+iGPU and memory. FCLK seems to go pretty high on these :)

[@TheNubaHS]

I second this, very interested at the all OC results in gaming

[@BlackBirdMax]

Thirded! Water cooled and/or extreme cooling would be fun.

[@issjdjdn5962]

Hardcore memory tuning would be interesting

[@theigpugamer]

The IGPU goes upto 2300mhz at 1250 mv

[@wrkl8846]

I second this as well. I’m very interested in overclocking the 5600G.

[@Oraceon]

When you said ‘don’t buy a DDR5 1030, you meant don’t buy the DDR4 1030, right?

[@GamersNexus]

Thanks. Said it correctly in two places and misspoke in that place. Much appreciated for catching.

[@TuskForce]

wouldn't be surprised if this will be a thing in the future

[@vincentas1]

@@TuskForce it exists, the ddr4 1030

[@darilight]

ddr3 gt1030 ?

[@hiromasaki]

@@darilight PC-133 GTX 1070?

[@jablue4329]

Ooh, I've been waiting for you guys to cover this one.

[@GamersNexus]

Thanks!

[@thechineserussian]

This was very informative. Given the situation of the GPU market in Australia, even budget cards like the 1650 Super, 1660ti and RX 6600 XT are $200-$400 above their RRP so the 5600G is a very welcome addition to the PC market. I was planning on building a budget system by year's end, but I guess I'll just make do with a 5600G until GPU prices go down. Great video as always Steve.

[@Lemard77]

Memory overclocking should be quite interesting in this APU, since it's monolithic and the memory controller is on 7nm unlike regular Ryzens and thus allow for much higher 1:1 ratio frequencies.

[@ugrasergun]

It would be interesting to see a 5600G vs 5700G comparison to see how much a difference make the extra gpu core and slightly higher clock speed.

[@borgejoh]

Probably not enough to justify the price difference

[@fabrb26]

@@borgejoh It's exactly that. Cost 60% more for 5% performance

[@MrKOenigma]

The Ryzen5700 also supports pcie4, and higher memspeed, Which also make it faster, but pricewise.... It's hard if you will later upgrade to dedicated fly, you might favor the pcie4

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

@@MrKOenigma depends on your board, I put this on an ASRock A320M board and as far as I am aware it only supports PCIe 3, so spending another $50+ would probably be a waste and is better put towards an AM5 system in a couple of years.

[@TheOriginalFaxon]

This looks like it's going to have a massive effect on the GPU shortage for e-sports gamers and other low budget builds, while still providing a CPU that's more than fast enough to feed literally any dedicated GPU on the market once one can get their hands on such a mythical creature. Also Bravo Steve, you're the first reviewer to get this product in my feed. Thanks Steve! Back to you!

[@__aceofspades]

Its not coming out for retail launch for 2 months, and has worse CPU performance than the 5600x. Its DOA for a placeholder GPU. Also by the time it launches we will have Alder lake with Intels newest Xe IGP that performs the same or better.

[@Cosmstack]

@@__aceofspades I don't think it's DOA at all if you can't buy a GPU. If Intel's version is better (and at a better cost), then I'd agree, but currently we don't know that.

[@defeqel6537]

@@__aceofspades Isn't Alder Lake still 5 months away?

[@strictlydiesel8305]

Have Intels integrated graphics ever kept up with AMD since they introduced their APUs?

[@807800]

for RTS/TBS junkies the igpu is perfectly acceptable.

[@exod4]

What's tbs

[@guapdad69420]

@@exod4 Turn-based strategy, so like Civilization series games.

[@andrewcross5918]

Yea. Civ 6 using the strategy map is fine at 4k on my 2200G.

[@yasunakaikumi]

racing games is also fine with iGPU if it can run 60fps at 1080p that means the thing already surpasses PS4

[@807800]

​@@yasunakaikumi yep, racing games. basically, you can have a lot fun with the APU.

[@DeeSnow97]

If you have a time machine what meaning does "later" still have?

[@devindykstra]

It's kind of hard to explain because you end up getting into time loops, and I already had to deal with one of those earlier tomorrow.

[@GamersNexus]

@@devindykstra You wouldn't believe the time traffic I ran into on the way to work next week when I got there today.

[@Doobie3010]

@@GamersNexus In your flying car,obviously.

[@jmn8498]

I vaguely remember the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy mentioning that when time travel was invented, languages had to implement new verb conjugations because the old ones became useless.

[@doncosner2611]

I recently purchased a custom built system for $500.00 with this processor. All components the builder chose to use were of surprisingly high quality! All the RGB fans and bling a person could ask for for about a third of what others are selling similar systems for! First thing I did was benchmark the system, I was very impressed with the results! I really can't see anyone being disappointed with this processor for it's price.

[@RSA-nuker]

Thanks Steve!

[@TheOriginalFaxon]

Back to you Steve!

[@czbrat]

You can literally see it

[@lupintheiii3055]

@@czbrat You can litterally see Steve back to you, with the new 3080 Tie!

[@kylixion_6359]

Honestly the fact that you can play basically every game on the market at 1080p low on an Apu is just so damn interesting to me. When I built my first pc I had no money, so when I was shopping around for a gpu, I was looking at a 730/745, as they were still pretty cheap back in the day. I ended up with a 1050ti that a friend gave to me, but I lived on a 1030 for about a year, and at the time it was a pretty decent gamer. Integrated graphics have gotten so good in only 5 years since then. Crazy stuff :D

[@devindykstra]

*6:11 quick correction: don't buy the ddr4 GT1030. Get GDDR5 if you want a GT1030.

[@GamersNexus]

Thanks. Said it correctly in two places and misspoke in that place. Much appreciated for catching.

[@christophermullins7163]

He's fishing us.

[@sandorclegane3658]

.. But don't buy a gt1030!

[@Zosu22]

It’s too bad that the official release is a little bit away, but it’s nice to see the progress iGPUs have made with entry level gaming. I’ll be eagerly waiting for the APUs that don’t use VEGA tough lol.

[@MrDvneil]

not that much progress since the launch of 2200g, not even compared with old A10-A12 cpus, amd has been holding apus performance because no competitor there. a performance of a 1030 is not even great. Even now, with these crazy prices, you can buy old gpus for 80€ at aliex that performs even better , like 750 ti, r9 270, etc.

[@Bramble20322]

@@MrDvneil Those R9 270 and 750tis from aliexpress come almost always DOA or dont last that long. They're usually refurbished or miners selling them after years of 24/7/365 use. And GT1030 performance is absolutely amazing for a chip that has to share memory bandwidth and a cooler with a 6/12 processor. If you're even comparing this to A10/A12 performance, you clearly never used those turds in your life.

[@nunyabeeswax3012]

It will also be interesting to see how APUs scale with DDR5 memory. If the new vega 7 can beat the DDR4 1030, I wonder how a DDR5 vega would stack up to the GDDR5 1030 (yes, not the same type of memory, but still interesting.)

[@MrPiikkipallo]

@@MrDvneil I paid 50 euros for a gtx680 a couple months ago. But that's beside the point, some countries have terrible secondhand markets. But true apu's have been pretty meh for some time, the a10-7850k for instance (and even the lower tiers) was decent. The 5600G seems to be decent as well. But like others when amd releases their rdna2 apu's, that will likely have very good performance. I mean look at the ps5/xboxsx, a soc with that kind of performance? WoW. Anyhow, I don't think we'll see a rdna apu for a loong time.

[@TuskForce]

@@MrDvneil "not that much progress since the launch of 2200g" here a comparison (only the differences): 2200G iGPU -8CU -​512SP -1.12GHz -GCN 5.0 -1.15 TFLOPS (FP32) -3x Display Support -14nm (Global Foundries) -2MB (4x 512kB) (L2 Cache) -4MB (L3 Cache) vs 5600G [5700G] +7CU​ [8CU] +448SP [512SP] +1.90GHz [2.00GHZ] +GCN 5.1 +1.70 TFLOPS [2.05 TFLOPS] (FP32) +4x Display Support +7nm (TSMC) +3MB (6x 512kB) [4MB (8x 512kB)] (L2 Cache) +16MB (L3 Cache) I'd say it makes a lot of difference if you compare those stats. That makes the difference between 1080p and 720p gaming. If you want a *huge* performance jump from the 2200G you should wait for the next gen or the gen after (6700 or 7700G the one that supports DDR5 clock speeds that are high enough to make a big difference to the highest DDR4 speeds). Also, they'll likely have more cache (3d stacked cache will come). But to say that there hasn't been much progress is just wrong. A 59% clock increase alone without considering the other stats is already a lot of progress imo. For those who wanna compare the 2200G directly to the 5700G: AMD has always released 2 Ryzen APUs at the same time. That's why you should compare the 5700G rather to the 2400G. I just put in the stats so all who read this are definitely aware that AMD doesn't copy paste the same iGPU into both APUs.

[@juno1597]

How come this CPU didn't make it in the 2022 CPU round up? This CPU is currently going for $130 or less!

[@leiziru9642]

Yeah it's dirt cheap right now, arguably one of the best for ultra budget builds

[@juno1597]

@@leiziru9642 can't wait for Ryzen 4 Apu's with RDNA 3, 12 CU graphics going for around this price one day. That will be the undisputed Budget King.

[@AznKei1]

It is the most sold cpu in Amazon apparently. I bought a pc with this cpu at 425 CAD with 16gb ram and I'm happy about while using tv & monitor that go up to 1080p/60hz.

[@juno1597]

@@AznKei1 yeah I recently built two PCs for my kids using this CPU, I got 144 Hz adaptive sync monitor to pair with it. It's incredible what integrated graphics can achieve these days, this CPU should have at least that an honorable mention for budget CPUs.

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

@@juno1597 true, though the 5700G is only another $50, but the 5600G is good enough, especially compared to the old 2200G.

[@jamesm568]

Definitely great for an all-purpose system.

[@2014Geek008]

oh yeah - showing the stuff on screen at 3:50 while talking through it made it incredibly easy to follow. Nice one.

[@mahrufmahdi]

Just built a PC using 5600G. And it's pretty good. Hopefully after gpu prices go back to normal I'd be able to play the highend games that I wan't to play. But untill then I'm super happy with what I got.

[@jawaidkhan]

Can't afford latest hardware but still interested in your reviews, find it interesting and detailed. Keep up the good work 😃

IGPUs are great to offload apps on secondary monitors, and even to drive said monitors. Being able to play a game without stuttering while playing an youtube video on chrome and having discord there, hell, even streaming with the igpu, it's great. I feel like most people just don't know how they can take advantage of IGPUs.

[@Granhier]

Aren't IGPUs disabled when a dedicated one is present?

[@josh223]

@@Granhier not always. i had a friend who ran a 2200g and did this so he could screen share in VR or run youtube videos without reducing the performance of his rx 580 (that he sloted in later)

[@josh223]

its also nice for when your gpu has limited hdmi ports of lacks legacy ports your monitors use

[@Basement-Science]

@@Granhier Default settings may vary, but you have always been able to turn the iGpu on if you want.

[@ChristopherGray00]

@@Granhier No, the dGPU is just assumed as the default, so basically everything goes to it, but you can still utilize the integrated GPU specifically if you want.

[@tech4u2022]

You might wanna re-review this since the BIOS update improved the APU a lot. Currently my OC settings make the iGPU run at a GTX1050/Ti levels and the more DRAM is allocated the better it seems to work (16vs32Mb). Reminder : i just tested this a few times and not for weeks so it might not be accurate but so far i was actually impressed by how good this iGPU is. Of course running it with my RTX gpu makes a huge difference but if you don't have a dedicated GPU then this R5 5600G is really a good choice imo.

[@johntiles]

What's your overclock settings and what ram

[@tech4u2022]

@@johntiles if i remember correctly i set the iGPU to 2300Mhz and used DDR4@3600Mhz with CL16 on a 16Gb and DDR4@3200Mhz with CL18 on a 32Gb system.

[@johntiles]

Ok thanks I'm getting it for pubg

[@junko4166]

Finally a reliable review that's not using obscenely expensive 4000+mhz RAM kits.

[@PMARC14]

I thought 4000mhz doesn't provide much performance improvement, as 3600 mhz runs insync with the CPU

[@malphadour]

Such as?

[@junko4166]

@@PMARC14 That's true for CPU, but the iGPU greatly benefits from fast RAM speeds.

[@TamamoF0X]

@@PMARC14 having anything above 3600mhz is just a way to flex at this point, on the same level as having SLI. Dosent make a massive difference.

[@bardofhighrenown]

Well we know one thing, Dell didn't give it to them.

[@alexguitar841]

Just bought this from microcenter for $120 and I'm not complaining.

[@asyraf_fareed]

How was it? U using with dedicated gpu?

[@alexguitar841]

@@asyraf_fareed I'm not using it with the dedicated GPU. The reason I got it was more to prolong the usability of my daughter's computer that came with a ryzen 3 5300g. Feels a bit zippier to me but it might just be confirmation bias.

[@dmscsx]

I just did the same for the same price. Right now running it with a 1660 super. Will upgrade my GPU down the line.

[@hotwheels9754]

Just did the same thing and I’m using a 1070 I’m upgrading my i5-6500 that I overclocked

[@kunanon211]

@@hotwheels9754 I'm about to upgrade to 5600G too. I am using i5-6600k. I want APU because if my RX480 die I probably won't buy a new one and get PS5 instead.

[@aaronalvesmilho88]

Compare it to the ryzen 3400g pls steve! 🙏🏼

[@Texacate]

I agree. Why wasn't 3200G and 3400G on the charts?

[@gotofalograce9926]

and maybe the 4000g series too

[@junko4166]

Bit disappointed that the 3200g and 3400g aren't present in the comparisons.

[@GamersNexus]

Not really powerful enough for most of these. We can rerun it in the future. Normally we would include it, but it's probably not being considered as an alternative and has been habitually out of stock, so we figure it's basically dead. We'll rerun when we have time and it makes sense, likely closer to launch.

[@junko4166]

@@GamersNexus Makes sense. CPU performance on those ZEN+ APUs really is way too low to feature in most of these charts. I was mostly curious about the difference in iGPU performance. I'm looking forward to the possible follow-up.

[@MrDvneil]

@@GamersNexus from other tests, igpu are really dependant on memory speed, there is like 30-40% difference from 3200 cl 13 to 4200mhz cl 18, can reach the performance of a 1050 ti sometimes. maybe testing some scaling would be good to show.

[@GroundGame.]

"5:25 A lone and wild Intel chip watches from the woods."

[@Radovanslav]

"here you can see a wild i3-10100 in its natural habitat"

[@raszelast]

This would make sick NUC-like AMD mini-pc to hook up to the living room TV.

[@mlindholm]

Look up the channel "ETA Prime", he's done a lot of reviews of small formfactor builds recently, using these OEM only, high end Ryzen 5/7 APUS...4750G, 5700G, etc. As shown here, they work OK for gaming, and are great for running emulators.

[@protocetid]

the SteamPal will probably have that functionality

[@btbarr16]

I work in Aviation and every time I hear GPU or APU my mind goes to ground power unit and auxiliary power unit. Aviation community loves our damn acronyms.

[@rkadi6540]

Auxiliary power unit is a thing to in military hardware side

[@mehdimido5270]

Memory tuning on APUs will be great (OC if possible too)

[@bayuchandrasukma820]

Recently bought this as an upgrade for my Athlon 3000G set, currently the price's down to like 150 bucks on my land, but got mine used for 49 bucks cheaper. Still a very solid performers, and even with my limited ram kit of 2666 it runs games with the iGPU fairly well. Granted, I played mine on mostly 900p, but still very nice to have. Really, for my kind of use case the 5600G's still winning big.

[@thaidung2003]

could you do a comparision with the 4650g? would be interesting to see the difference between two generations

[@hirschj]

Agreed. Can't decide if I should go for the 4650g now or wait for the 5600g.

[@thaidung2003]

@@hirschj i just bought the 4650g. just want to know what im missing out on

[@Lightkie]

I'm in the same boat as Jan Hirsch. I originally wanted to get the Zen 2 APU but then saw the improvement with Zen 3 in games especially and since I'm looking at a NUC-type barebone with AM4, it would be the definite top-end to get the Zen 3 APU instead. This test really was a letdown because it looks like the delta between CPU and APU didn't shrink between generations. I really would have liked to see a test focus on the doubled size of the L3 cache for the Zen 3 APU compare to the previous generation. I don't understand how it did not have any impact.

[@raimundobaez7064]

same here

[@nicmonberg5974]

Strange why you wouldn't compare to other apu people would be more interested in seeing all the amd apu compared.

[@paytonjames2149]

@2:19 I see a Ryzen 7 5700G. Does that means that you are going to do a review of it soon?

[@saricubra2867]

That is the most interesting APU from the lineup, specially that it's close to the i7-10700K in price and has 16MB of L3 cache.

[@katsudonSaikou]

How does it compare to the 3200G and 3400G? I've seen 3400G's for around $180, and I'm wondering if it's better to get one of those and put the difference towards something else

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

I was missing those on the benchmark charts as well, I suspect there’s not a lot of difference, with the 3400G having more CUs but a markedly lower frequency (then, of course, comparing OC vs OC would also be interesting)

[@lukamitic6832]

@@kasimirdenhertog3516 3400G is 12nm so its basicly 2nd generation, also you cant compare the CUs because on 3400g they are 12nm, but 5600G Vega CUs are 7nm

[@retro_ed746]

For gaming 3400G is a little weaker than 5600G but with $180 prize it has a much better value.

[@PugkinSoup]

@@lukamitic6832 yes but the 3400g has a vega 11 and the 5600g has a vega 7, it should've been a comparison in this video

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

​@@lukamitic6832 the CUs in the 3400G are 14nm (only the CPU part was shrunk to 12nm). The fact they shrunk the CUs to 7nm means they can run them at a higher frequency, as I mentioned. But they are still Vega CUs and there are fewer in the 5600G. That's why the 3400G maintains a lead in processing power, it would be interesting to see how it compares in real-world scenarios.

[@nickhubble7582]

That unreal5 intro is really good. Good work.

[@thejedioutcast804]

I paid 178 + free shipping for this APU back in early May, it was super worth it. Now the AMD 8GB 5500 XT GPU I just ordered will be here in 2 days, so it's finally time to throw in a dedicated GPU into this budget PC.

[@Wushu-viking]

Very good review. As always a very good job with the measuring.. not just benchmark graphs. The IGP gaming power efficiency is excellent.

[@juno1597]

Any chance we can get a rereview of this CPU? This is the only APU worth a damn for the desktop market atm, and it provides excellent vaule at it's current cost. I've built serveral of this things and they are great for a ultra budget build.

[@IllusionaryHD]

Loved the review but I think there may be some value in showing some low end cards above the 5600G (1660 super, 2060, etc.) to see how much of a difference there is between a "proper" gpu and this. Just a thought, good review!

[@GamersNexus]

We do have the 3080 in there for half the tests to show the CPU differences. You could also look at our GPU benchmarks for the GT 1030 and get a percentage delta between that and higher-end GPUs to calculate the difference. Noted, though.

[@Basement-Science]

@@GamersNexus I think it would be useful for those who are able to spend a little more to see if it's worth it.

[@czbrat]

I wouldn't call either of those cards low end

[@IllusionaryHD]

@@czbrat neither would I tbh, but it's the state of the market. Maybe RX480s and 1050ti's would've worked too, you just can't find those anywhere

[@evbchannel]

18:25 now i would love to see you doing a benchmark of the tesla

[@Stelio_Contos]

But, can we also just take a minute to appreciate how the iGPU in the 5600G has to use shared DDR4 with the system, while the 1030 it matches uses its own dedicated DDR5.

[@JMUDoc]

I would love to see a RAM overclocking session with the APUs - "RAM to the moon!" is a common selling point for them :)

[@vegoon683]

Fine, I’ll do it. Upgrading from 2200G to 5600G in a Chopin B450 build. The 3400G was too little of a bump and the 4600G peaked my interest, but not enough to seek one out. Just ordered today on sale at $210 USD. Not bad.

[@FatheredPuma81]

I doubt anyone else will do it, let alone to the quality of Gamers Nexus, so yes for those people who actually are going to buy this APU and for my curiosity, please make a video showing how RAM effects the APU.

[@nikityukvlad]

That moment when you hear "Radeon seven leads the chart", gasp, realizing a moment later that it was about an IGP :(

[@e4300]

I bought this 5600G for $142us and use it in a HTPC. Beast of a APU.

[@elbuji001]

now im here waiting for the 5700G review... thanks to your videos i choose all the parts of my pc

[@madkvideo]

Whoa , the gaming performance is actually decent

[@bubbafats6246]

The extra L3 cache on the 5600x really helps

[@songkwongyi7873]

Just a random thought, If i were to have this 5600G and a graphics card, could i designate the APU for streaming while the card to do the game frames?

[@saricubra2867]

I think you can, it would be like the dual GPU configuration from laptops.

[@ctjmaughs]

Come on man. It took them this lomg to finally deliver stable drivers for Vega. Might be lucky to have it run on APU WITH battery power and use a card when power plugged in. max performance with card, max battery with APU.

[@tidjane2001]

@@ctjmaughs you can do that already

[@perforongo9078]

It's called AMD CrossFire. Nvidia has a similar system if you use two Nvidia dGPUs. But AMD makes both iGPUs and dGPUs that can sync together. Intel is planning to do something similar when they get their own dGPU business up and running.

[@mohamadyusoff9091]

i play games on gtx1650 and record using obs and choosing 4600H apu

[@thud159]

Things i wish you would have tested, 1. Overclocking the APU on the CPU side to see if you could hit 5ghz boost. 2. comparing 3200 ram to the fastest memory you find to see if any meaningful boost in performance on the GPU. 3. Run 5600X and 5600G at the same clock/boost frequencies. See if one has more IPC than the other clock for clock. I plan on getting this APU but i want to know if the monolithic Zen 3 had advantages over the chiplet based Zen3.

[@HDJess]

Would be so cool if AMD released a cut-down CPU from 6 cores down to 4 for example but with more GPU computing units in the place of those 2 CPU cores. That way it could really be a competitive IGPU vs budget CPU/GPU combos.

[@rubuk2996]

Beve Sturke with the good testing!

[@nerdMike]

I'm waiting for Fidelity FX update to see how can boost the integrated AMD gpu more. It'll be interesting, afaik from rx580 through the recent APU you'll get some performance boost. 😉

[@stavriminev5325]

Just built a cheapo £480 PC with this one. 16 gigs of DDR4 3200 OC at 4000Mhz. And the iGPU clocked at 2350Mhz at 1.275v and im actually very surprised at the results. All the games i play run at 1080p medium to high settings. I have GTA V at max settings running at solid 30fps and that is perfectly fine with me. I will be stuck with this till i can find a graphics card at a normal price. The memory and gpu overclocks are giving me around 25% more performance than stock. If you are on a very strict budget like I am, I think this is worth it. 480 pounds spent and I can comfortably play games and wait for GPUs to normalise and buy one later. Must be better than not being able to play anything right?

[@Sindalis1]

Hi Steve, One thing I would really like in the future is multitasking studied. I'll be honest, I most often watch your videos and youtube while also gaming, in my setup two 1440p displays. When i upgraded from a 4770K to a 3700X, I noticed a real problem with the lack of an IGP in some games. What I've found is that there is a framerate / frame pacing hit to the gaming screen when the GPU is stressed since it's also trying to do GPU accelerated tasks such as video rendering on the other screen. Turning off GPU acceleration in Chrome creates a different problem, which now stresses the CPU to maintain Chrome video while trying to game, and renders some things nigh but impossible that are relying on GPU acceleration and do not function well (if at all) with only CPU. Honestly. I would love to see some multi-tasking benchmarks, ex... running a game and say a GPU accelerated task such as watching videos on youtube in Chrome, comparing like for like across games and hardware configurations. Basically pitting the mainstream ryzen parts (w/o igp;s) and intel KF sku's vs APU's and Intel's processors with IGP's to understand what really is the performance loss, and for people in my situation, what would be the best purchase in the future?

[@zyxyuv1650]

In these dark times, episodes about maximum overclocking budget APUs is more needed than ever

[@glenwaldrop8166]

I'm looking up benches here, looks like they *still* haven't exceeded the GTX 750 Ti or GTX 960M with integrated video. I thought the Xe or AMD's APU had finally done it but the 1030 still can't hang with the 750 Ti and it seems the best they can do is match the 1030.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

That CPU seems real nice for small projects. To me, for an audio DSP small PC to process incoming instrument audio signal with your own code, modular environments or VST plugins with more processing power than an arduino card.

[@45eno]

Bought one new in the box locally for $80 a year or so ago. I sold a G4560/GT1030 DDR5 for $80. I almost just recently replaced it with a 5600X but glad I didn't as I decided to move the GTX1080 out of the 5600G Garage PC and sell one of my 6600XT as someone offered $180 for it. So at some point when I come across a GPU deal I will push that GTX1080 back to the shop/garage PC. But for now the 5600G is doing just fine out in the handy shop PC. Sometimes I like to play a game or two in the quiet of the garage while drinking a beer. 5600G and GTX1080 is perfect for a 60hz 2560x1080p 25" Ultrawide. Plays modern racing games on Ultra with locked 60fps Vsync as the monitor doesn't support any freesync.

[@dolebiscuit]

I was really tempted to buy a 4700G on eBay like 6 months ago. It's very capable at gaming from what I've seen, and it's very frustrating that AMD didn't release that as a consumer product. I'm wondering how much improvement the 5XXXG has over the previous 4XXXG series.

[@roblereck]

Should I get the 5600g or the 3600?

[@cielazul713]

5600g is muuuch better CPU-wise but both have similar GPU performance. Overall the 5600g is the better buy so long as you avoid paying mark up.

[@64MrMarcos]

Never clicked so fast on a video.

[@willj7127]

Love the videos. Keeps me up to date, when friends/family/co workers ask what they should do for there builds.

[@titaniummechanism3214]

The 5600G is underrated. Right now it sells for 229€ here in Germany, whereas a 5600X sells for 259€. That would make a very ok stopgap solution for an above-entry-level gaming PC.

[@MBTIMemes]

Currently it sells for

[@electrocumbias]

Thanks Steve. Very cool.

[@riven4121]

August seems so far away. Seeing as though I doubt the GPU crisis will be over any time soon this seems to be my best option.

[@fzth-t7s]

5700G should be slightly better, but yeah.

[@AdmireFiestaGuild]

@gamers nexus ... i'm myself an experienced pc builder with 25 years of experience. However it would be really great if you could make a video about bios settings in intel as well as amd mainboards - what each setting means and whats the advantage / disadvantage of certain settings. Love your content and your genuine focus on fair test results and not selling out.

[@YaviOld]

Yes please do an APU MemoryOC testing I recommend getting SiSoftware Sandra & running the Inter-Core efficiency test Plotting an interconnect latency chart which scales with memory latency and FCLK speed Also doing FCLK tests with up to 1.3v SOC (it's fine on Vermeer)

[@lucidnonsense942]

I wish you showed more benchmarks of the iGPUs running at higher resolutions, quality settings and bit more intensive titles. There are people who would be ok playing an AAA title at 30-40fps while waiting for a GPU. It would give an upper limit on what the iGPU can manage.

[@Face_RC]

Incredibly confused why the 2200G/2400G/3200G/3400G weren't included on the charts. Call me crazy but it seems like someone upgrading to an APU, probably already has an APU and might be interested in what sort of performance increase they may get and if upgrading is worth the money... Same for the 1600 and 1700 chips for the dgpu segment.

[@ytiralc]

Please revisit. It's very much DIY now. This CPU feels like it hit the right spot at the right time, and didn't rip people off but I'd love to see an actual re-review!

[@mindnova7850]

Is KIOXIA reliable?

[@briancatron1563]

I like my 4650G (only paid a slight scalper premium) for giving me the option of GPU pass-through into a VM on a small form factor PC. GPU pass-through in a 5L case!

[@Mopantsu]

We need RDNA 2 on an APU.

[@khaledm.1476]

Better for them to do it for RDNA 3 at this point. RDNA 3 is scheduled for late 2021

[@malathomas6141]

@@khaledm.1476 no rdna 3 is for 2022

[@khaledm.1476]

@@malathomas6141 according to amd's roadmap it's slated for late 2021 (KZbin doesn't like links so you can Google that) although a delay due to the supply constraints is possible. It's slated for 2021 but could be delayed to 2022

[@malathomas6141]

@@khaledm.1476 it's for 2022 lisa su said it at their gdc event in June

[@khaledm.1476]

@@malathomas6141 oh I haven't seen their event did she talk about which quarter or whether it's early or late 2022

[@pauldevine6086]

I built an emulation box with this APU a bit over a year ago, its been amazing, runs everything up to ps2/xbox really well. Came across this when i was comparing more modern vs this so i can run ps3 really well also

[@unkowndata2338]

I heard on Intel systems that Premiere does acceleration using the iGPU of Intel machines even if you have a discrete GPU. Could you compare performance of this CPU with a comparable Intel CPU paired the same GPU.

[@boratsagdiyev1586]

if you disable onboard graphics in bios it MUST work because it wont get detected.

[@ricardojorgesantosma]

Sometimes people end up using these kinds of CPUs on NAS boxes from where they do video streaming and transcoding. Would be interesting to include in future reviews the transcoding capabilities of these APU solutions? For example, number of parallel 1080p streams with hardware transcoding it's capable of doing.

[@conscience_cat1146]

I'm really interested to see a memory scaling video with different frequencys and timings for this APU. Most other channels I've seen show that APU's do usually scale with RAM frequency, but I think they are all leaving their timings to auto. Ideally if you could show how APU's scale with frequency when timings are locked, verses tuning the timings at each frequency increase. This testing would be highly relevant as this part is always going to be GPU bound when using intergrated graphics, and GPU's care much more about frequency than latency compared to CPU's.

[@zenopsys3443]

This makes me feel good about the gt 1030 I had to buy. Worst time to get into pc gaming 👎

[@Radovanslav]

time to make a windows XP gaming machine :-)

[@ursa-]

Next time you do one of these 'budget' benchmarks, it'd be neat to see how a 750 Ti does nowadays. Still hear it come up every so often in tech chats as a lot of people had one in the mid-10's from when they were getting into the DIY PC space, and now it's sitting around and could go in a budget build for someone's kid or something.

[@czbrat]

Noticeably behind 5600x. Unexpected I have to admit.

[@sokool3994]

Mungkin gara-gara L3 cachenya cuma 16MB, dibandingkan dengan 5600X yang udah punya 32MB.

[@rdmz135]

Completely expected if you know how much L3 cache affects gaming

[@mdd1963]

Not sure why it was unexpected; most knew 5600G would run ~200 MHz lower clocks compared to 5600X...

[@WayStedYou]

Why? half the cache and lower clockspeeds.

[@czbrat]

@@WayStedYou 5900x for example has way more cache and higher clock speed yet it's barely faster. I expected 5600g to be slower of course just not by that margin.

[@Dante440x]

I got the 5600g for around $125 recently, sold my Intel 11500 which I got around $199 is that value for money and good decision?

[@dosansss]

Im planning on building a internet cafe for low games, this apu will be a perfect fit for the build. Thanks steve for the insight. Keep up the good work as always. Love from indonesia

[@shivanSpS]

I got this feeling that we have been comparing APUs to GT1030s for a eternity now :(

[@AwSomeNESSS]

I would love to see this in a memory benchmark! Seen other YTers get it up to 4000/4400mhz and would be neat to see it through your testing methodology/suite.

[@alangarde2928]

Brilliant video. Precisely the things I'd want to know (but be struggling to find) if I was trying to make the decision if to go for this because of budget/market constraints and upgrade to a dedicated GPU later. Quality stuff Steve.

[@allancraig306]

Coming back to this?? I've been getting mine to run the APU at 2,300 MHz. Same way it holds 1,800 steadily

[@ZacharyAbellaHTX]

This video not only highlights the value of the 5600G in this current GPU market, but it also shows that the R5 3600 and R7 3700X are still holding up well into 2021! Gotta love AMD.

[@dustinc.h.8143]

This was an excellent review video Steve! I keep wondering, do you think the R5 5600G is the direct replacement to the R5 3600?

[@ST-lo6fm]

You have a glow to you today. Must be the salon visit before recording. Whatever works. Great video.

[@JikoMuskato]

Yeah, would be interesting to see how different memory speeds like 2133 (XMP not activated), 2666, 3200, 3600 and ridiculously high (4400+?) Mhz affect APU performance. Might also just be a part of the "APU overclocking" video if you do something like that. By the way: I do have the GT 1030 GDDR5 in one of my systems and it's not too bad indeed. Not to be compared with the GT 710. The 1030 GDDR5 is actually faster than the GTX 560 so all the games from 10 years ago will just run perfectly. And there are lots of great games from that time.

[@a_void]

I haven't watched this channel for a while. I like the new intro!

[@jamesw2831]

Great analysis. I can't wait for the next gen iGPU because they will incorporate RDNA.