AMD vs Nvidia?! - What Should You Buy! (RX 7900 XTX vs RTX 4080 Gameplay Benchmarks)

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NVIDIA or AMD? Which graphics card should you buy in 2022, the RX 7900 XT, RTX 4080, RX 7900 XTX or RTX 4090? Join PC Centric for Asus RX 7900 XTX Tuf benchmarks, review and ganeplay!
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00:00 Intro
01:01 Unboxing the TUF 7900 XTX
02:54 A closer look at the TUF card
06:36 Battlefield 2042 4K
08:16 Battlefield 2042 - 1440P
08:55 Battlefield 2042 - Raytracing
09:36 Apex Legends 4K
10:55 Apex Legends 1440P
11:26 Cyberpunk - 4k RT
12:28 Cyberpunk 4K - RT Shadows only
13:27 BENCHMARK GRAPHS!
15:17 Overclocking
16:13 AMD vs Nvidia
19:17 Outro

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@ZekkRagnos
@ZekkRagnos Жыл бұрын
I actually disagree with what most KZbinrs are saying about the coolers. I rather have it be a little over built to keep it cool and quiet while gaming. But that's just my take.
@iamjames8200
@iamjames8200 Жыл бұрын
I agree, but these cards are getting a bit over the top now. They can be overbuilt but not to the extent of some cards.
@CyTaux
@CyTaux Жыл бұрын
Yeah and if GPU mining ever comes back, these cards will go for killer prices
@Blaquegold
@Blaquegold Жыл бұрын
@@CyTauxplease don’t jinx us!!!
@CyTaux
@CyTaux Жыл бұрын
@@Blaquegold I know I know, I was just keeping in mind why the unnecessary sized cooler is there.
@Equatis
@Equatis Жыл бұрын
You're not alone. I too prefer extremely quiet graphics cards. Unfortunately I can't get this model because it's too big for my case and I don't want to change my case just for a graphics card so I went with reference.
@aje4272
@aje4272 Жыл бұрын
Where I live, you can’t find a 4080 for less than 1350. I was able to purchase a 7900xtx for 999 on AMDs website. Just be prepared to refresh the website around 9:55 to 10:05 am EST. That’s when they restock. You have about a 30 second Window before they are sold out.
@ghostazp3377
@ghostazp3377 Жыл бұрын
Is the vr bad as i have been reading?
@7trapity164
@7trapity164 3 ай бұрын
Nice timing man
@Savethepandabears
@Savethepandabears Ай бұрын
Here's an idea maybe they should just build their website to prevent scalpers
@lennytothequantum3317
@lennytothequantum3317 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, keep up the great work and ty so much for adding the merch store to the youtube links! :D
@Kizzster
@Kizzster Жыл бұрын
XTX and 4080 should be $800 max. They're literally the next gen 3080 and 6800 XT but you're paying for around 30% better performance for $300-$500 more.
@HafeezBlackLeg
@HafeezBlackLeg Жыл бұрын
7900xtx is now under $900, 4080 will soon be there on late August after Nvda failure to deliver their $11b revenue estimated on their Q3 earning
@zae.av04
@zae.av04 10 ай бұрын
@@HafeezBlackLegnope 4080 still over priced
@zae.av04
@zae.av04 10 ай бұрын
@@HafeezBlackLegnope 4080 still over priced
@markhalstead2386
@markhalstead2386 5 ай бұрын
4080 still over priced in January 2024
@misterbrickest
@misterbrickest Жыл бұрын
A note on OVERCLOCKING: It takes a lot of effort to dial in the overclocking on high end cards nowadays. You have to undervolt the GPU to stretch out the efficiency curve while slowly bring up the Minimum AND Maximum clocks on AMD GPUs, with trial and error. I had like 2-3% over on my RX 6800 before I started using undervolting, putting in the time and was able eventually to get 8%-11% consistently. I think this is why we are getting different reports on the ASUS TUF 7900XTX OC reviews. Techpowerup seemed to emphasize the undervolt as a necessary part of the overclocking potential, therefore they had good results.
@gunturbayu6779
@gunturbayu6779 Жыл бұрын
I laugh when he just slide the gpu freq and call it done lol
@misterbrickest
@misterbrickest Жыл бұрын
@@gunturbayu6779 Yeah me too. I mean I didn't wanna be an ass about it but I also feel like a lot of creators have made this same mistake.
@KinGDGaminG63
@KinGDGaminG63 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@MadClowdz
@MadClowdz Жыл бұрын
Agreed. GN did a good video on OC'ing RDNA2 a while ago. I used their settings as a starting point for my XFX Merc Black 6900XT, and I get sustained 2560mhz in-game and a nice performance bump. With AMD cards, you have to find the sweet spot for min max clocks, they can't be far apart, only a few hundred megahertz, and leave the VRAM alone and undervolt.
@metodejtuma4253
@metodejtuma4253 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that video! I have 1440p and 165 Hz monitor with 1KW PSU and ryzen 7900x. RT doesn't really matters to me, so I deffinitly go for radeon rx 7900 xtx :)
@masonj19
@masonj19 Жыл бұрын
It's a simple choice really, 4090 if you want the best of the best failing that the 4080 if you want Ray tracing performance and the 7900xtx if you don't care much for raytracing
@no5ense401
@no5ense401 Жыл бұрын
Fair non Bias comment .
@martintop2605
@martintop2605 Жыл бұрын
In USA yes but here 4090 is 2.1k Euro the difference with 4080 its 750 euro . Which is insane. 7900xtx is not in stock or pricewise its close to 4080
@Saegan7
@Saegan7 Жыл бұрын
@@martintop2605 exactly snatched a TUF 4080 With like 1420 euros (not cheap) but spoke with a friend of mine and the 7900 will be available around 1300 euros ...so for me those 120 euros for the RT perf and extra features was worth it . i mean MSRP nowadays is a thing of the past tbh
@martintop2605
@martintop2605 Жыл бұрын
@@Saegan7 good choice mate , as much as i wanted to support amd this time by this prices dont make sense . I get 6800xt 540 Euro in August and is very good card but will upgrade to 4080 bcs im in to simracing (racing games) and Asseto Corsa Competitione its very heavy in VR.
@marine6680
@marine6680 Жыл бұрын
RDNA cards actually gain performance from undervolting. Increase power limit, bump up the gpu and memory clocks a bit, then start lowering the voltage. The card will start to maintain its boost frequencies for longer, as it isn’t bumping against the power limit as much. Apparently people are seeing 10%+ gains of actual in game FPS. Depending on the specific game of course. Benchmarks don’t show much of an improvement at all though.
@huggysocks
@huggysocks Жыл бұрын
Radeon cards age well. I bought a 370 and moved to the 7900xtx merc cause of my vram issue. I'm done with nvidea for now
@RothusTheGamer
@RothusTheGamer Жыл бұрын
Got the rx 7900xtx at MSRP on launch day in the UK, going from a 1080ti.... yeah the difference is big, very happy with it so far :) need to update the rest of my build next year at some point :')
@charlesmiv3842
@charlesmiv3842 Жыл бұрын
how did you grab one on launch day? I'm still not seeing them anywhere
@RothusTheGamer
@RothusTheGamer Жыл бұрын
@Charles M IV Was refreshing the overclockers website just before 2pm and was able to get the powercolor reference card for £1,050 :) Just a lucky boy on the day i guess
@b1gd312
@b1gd312 Жыл бұрын
Stock lasted 20mins on the OCUK site, not really a case of luck at all, I refreshed the page every couple of mins and watched all stock drop off, but decided to not be spontaneous, waiting to see the partner card reviews come in first, being I build SFF I wanted the biggest cooler for the physical size that will fit my case, unlike the reference card which will always run hotter (as shown in the XTX reviews that dropped on the day), which aren't as well suited to SFF temps wise (as I'm finding with my 3080TI FE).
@charlesmiv3842
@charlesmiv3842 Жыл бұрын
@@b1gd312 The AMD non-partner cards will run a bit hotter, but if you have adequate cooling and airflow in your case, it'll be fine and non noticeable.
@b1gd312
@b1gd312 Жыл бұрын
@@charlesmiv3842 Exactly as I said. I have adequate cooling in my case currently, 6x arctic p12's, reference cards will always have worse coolers and smaller heatsinks, something I want to move away from whilst I build SFF
@WillHelm236
@WillHelm236 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos man, thanks for all the uploads!
@00wheelie00
@00wheelie00 Жыл бұрын
Every available 7900xtx, except the AMD store gamble queue, is more expensive than the available 4080s where I live. If you compare performance per euro even the 4090 looks like a good buy vs 7900xtx.
@00wheelie00
@00wheelie00 Жыл бұрын
To give a sense of current pricing: The cheapest available 7900XTX is EUR 1879, the Cheapest 4080 is EUR 1299 and the Cheapest 4090 is EU 2019. Needless to say I'll be buying the 4090.
@sabertoothgaming8988
@sabertoothgaming8988 Жыл бұрын
what case fans do you run with or recommend for performance and noise
@EdSmyth
@EdSmyth Жыл бұрын
Marcus - What monitor would you recommend for 7900 xtx that doesn’t cost ridiculous money?? Thanks
@JuliuszBaczynski
@JuliuszBaczynski Жыл бұрын
if you can show the render latency in the overlay in future videos we could get a clearer indication of how responsive it feels in game, usually 2-4 ms is awesome latency, great video as always!
@Justifier
@Justifier Жыл бұрын
Been watching a guy called BenchmarkBoy, he's got a top end rig with the 7900xtx, 13900k His UHD latency on BF1/Fortnite was between 4-7 RT latency was about 13-15 iirc
@blondemonk7860
@blondemonk7860 Жыл бұрын
@@Justifier does rx 7900xtx has more latency than rtx 4080?
@Justifier
@Justifier Жыл бұрын
@@blondemonk7860 No idea: I've never seen a 4080's input lag statistics from a source I trust I can tell you based off Optimum Tech's "The Lowest Input Lag PC Spec", that it's likely somewhere between 5.3 (4090) and 8.9 (4070ti)
@blondemonk7860
@blondemonk7860 Жыл бұрын
@@Justifier thanks
@blondemonk7860
@blondemonk7860 Жыл бұрын
@@Justifier I bought 4080 for 1440p gaming but having doubts because of 16gb of vram, should I have gone with 7900xtx?
@matthewbrown1849
@matthewbrown1849 Жыл бұрын
If GPU developers use more heat pipes and brought the radiator fins closer together they could make a smaller and more compact GPU with cool thermals. As a CPU cooler the Noctua NH-U12A does exactly this and is Noctua's most heat efficient cooler. You are better off with more fins than longer fins, unless you make the significantly longer, but then you are left with something overly bulky and not well put together.
@KhaledIron
@KhaledIron Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the MSI RX 7900 XTX GAMING TRIO CLASSIC 24G? Would love to cop the power color but it's pretty expensive where I live
@idrisssamassa6585
@idrisssamassa6585 Жыл бұрын
i have a quick question I've had a prebuilt for over a year and I'm thinking of building a pc myself would i need to reactivate windows.
@andyreichert499
@andyreichert499 Жыл бұрын
I just ordered an MSI 4080 after way too much struggle and back and forth. It largely game down to availability. Going up to a 4090 would have also required a new PSU, so beyond being impossible to find, the cost difference was a bit more for me than most. I was planning on a 7900 XTX with 3 8 pin power adapters, but couldn't find one. The rest of the parts are sitting on a table ready to go together, and I didn't want to spend time indefinitely trying to find a card online, or driving for 5 hours to hope for luck at a microcenter. So early next week I get to finally put a new PC together, and I'm looking forward to it.
@ErrrorWayz
@ErrrorWayz Жыл бұрын
You wont be disappointed it'd a better card than the XTX. Shame you couldn't got full 4090. Insane card
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Жыл бұрын
I have a 4090 and it's not as much as first communicated, it used less power than the 3090 Ti. If you have a machine running a 3080 curretly I.e. anything 800 watts and over then you do not need a new PSU to run a 4090.
@andyreichert499
@andyreichert499 Жыл бұрын
@@dtrjones I'm upgrading from an 8 year old PC with a 980. It caught a nasty case if the bluescreens this spring, and not wanting to play crazy prices for GPUs I tried everything I could to fix it including replacing the PSU. I figured I'd get a new PSU when I built a new machine with the new power connector, but the one I got this spring will support a 4080 so that PSU and some fans are going into the new build. It only has 3 8 pin PCIe cables which is enough for an XTX or 4080,. but not the 4 that the 4090 wants. Even still, I'd pop for the new PSU if I could just buy a 4090. But I want a functioning PC again before break, and I don't want to spend an hour per day indefinitely trying to find a 4090 at MSRP.
@mariecondo7110
@mariecondo7110 Жыл бұрын
Is ultrawide (g9) considered 2k or 4k? Red or green? :)
@nestorarcilaosorio2457
@nestorarcilaosorio2457 Жыл бұрын
Hey, what are your thoughts on the undervolt and overclock the ASUS TUF 7900XTX? is on par with the RTX4090 without RT on.
@SwingArmCity
@SwingArmCity Жыл бұрын
You mean did it reach 300+ fps? Who cares they're both fast as F! "But I have to have 350fps" nonsense.
@eyupatasoy6539
@eyupatasoy6539 7 ай бұрын
Hello there, i am between 4080 and 7900 xtx. I love story mode games and planning to play games on 2k oled monitor. Do you think in ultra settings with ray tracing enabled. 7900 xtx can sport any game with playable fps? I mean considering 16gb probably won't be enough in 2 years 4080 seems to be a bad investment to me ngl
@SynergyGamingTV
@SynergyGamingTV Жыл бұрын
This is really good quality content! Well done!
@DezmoRizer
@DezmoRizer Жыл бұрын
Bf2042 was on tested with 55 fov which is extremely low , most people are on 90 and above on pc , it does impact performance as higher fov means more is rendered on screen.
@EstaDePiPi
@EstaDePiPi Жыл бұрын
good point but fir 1440p I'm sure you still be getting a decent fps, maybe around 150-160
@spartafxrs5
@spartafxrs5 Жыл бұрын
hi! i'm actually on the fence between these two. i'll be using them for work (architectural renderings and other 3d stuff), and of course gaming. is the 4080 still better despite having less vram? also, if ever i'm on a budget, will the 4070ti be worth it?
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow Жыл бұрын
The 4070 Ti will never be worth it as long as the RX 6950 XT is still on the market.
@logggchop5265
@logggchop5265 Жыл бұрын
Great vid 🙂
@Tindergate
@Tindergate Жыл бұрын
First time seeing this channel. I like your style.
@Nms2k3
@Nms2k3 Жыл бұрын
I got a TUF 4080 OC a couple weeks ago. Yes it's expensive but I sold my 3070Ti for 1/2 the price of the 4080 so the upgrade cost wasn't that bad in my case not to mention availability, good thing the 4080 doesn't sell that well it's relatively easy to find one. If I had to buy the 4080 outright without having sold my other GPU I might have highly considered the 7900XTX, it's too expensive on it's own. I've been using Nvidia cards for over 10 years so I feel more "at home" with Nvidia but this new 7900XTX is no slouch either, you can't go wrong with either card and I'm glad AMD can stick it to Nvidia, competition is always good for us in the end. I'm really happy in the end with my 4080, kinda won at silicon lottery as well, it OCs very nicely almost at 3.1Ghz and my PC holds 1st place in 3dmark Timespy for a 9900k/4080 setup but I don't run it at that speed for everyday tasks/gaming.
@vladimirdosen6677
@vladimirdosen6677 Жыл бұрын
Are you using the adapter, or the psu with a native 12v cable?
@Nms2k3
@Nms2k3 Жыл бұрын
@@vladimirdosen6677 I'm using a 12vhpwr 3x8pin adapter from CableMod, works perfectly and clean looking, highly recommend a quality cable and not the crappy adapter the cards ship with. My psu is a Coolermaster M2 Silent Pro 1000w, which is roughly 10 years old.
@charlesmiv3842
@charlesmiv3842 Жыл бұрын
how much did you pay for the 4080
@Nms2k3
@Nms2k3 Жыл бұрын
@@charlesmiv3842 With the return I got on my 3070Ti I paid roughly $795 USD for the 4080.
@animegeek6118
@animegeek6118 Жыл бұрын
Lucky you I bought the same card 3 weeks ago and all it did was crash every game I play from the day I got it. Took it back today for a 7900 xt because I got tired of waiting for more stock and I’ve had zero issues and have the same performance and got 600 bucks back. But when the 4080 was working games didn’t see past 55c because the fact it’s an overpriced GPU and they used the same cooler as the 4090.
@abimaelmartins5094
@abimaelmartins5094 Жыл бұрын
Bro, I just wanted to know your pc configuration. Please...
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 10 ай бұрын
I ended up getting an ASRock RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming OC and yeah, it's a beast (but I have a Server/Supertower case so I don't care). It was an open-box from Newegg for the equivalent of £686. This card is a real stunner and it performs like mad. It has THREE PCI-Express supplementary power connectors so if I ever want to overclock it, there we go. I know better than to buy nVidia and become a part of the problem.
@humansvd3269
@humansvd3269 7 ай бұрын
I have the exact ram GPU. It's the bet I've ever used. I love it! Eats every game and task I've thrown at it.
@TechJedi29
@TechJedi29 Жыл бұрын
You need to undervolted it if you press power up. You essentially need to make some head room. He didn't drop the voltage the way you usually should.
@laszlodajka5946
@laszlodajka5946 Жыл бұрын
I guess you do that in adrenaline
@bobboberton1841
@bobboberton1841 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Being able to buy a higher end card without the ethical issues and price gouging from NVidia is a win in my book.
@blackz4035
@blackz4035 Жыл бұрын
What I love is that there is competition. There is not only 1 market. 1. So they wont be able to take time to release a new version 2. If there was only one market, they would set there own prices without worrying people would consider other stuffs
@airknight3318
@airknight3318 11 ай бұрын
That aged well 💀
@rmmm329
@rmmm329 Жыл бұрын
Wait now we’re disappointed at cards that run cool and quiet??? 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
@asplmn
@asplmn Жыл бұрын
I'm going AMD this time around. FSR is close enough to DLSS, won't need frame generation to hit my 4k 120hz cap, and ray tracing is still not worth it IMO (after watching numerous comparison videos.)
@SwingArmCity
@SwingArmCity Жыл бұрын
I agree, over rated Ray tracing crap.
@star_dust312
@star_dust312 Жыл бұрын
And fsr3 is coming q1 2023
@Borsecann
@Borsecann Жыл бұрын
@@SwingArmCity Ray tracing is nice, problem is it's as you say over-rated and in my personal opinion just a marketing buzzword. It's been a few years too early to be marketed as a feature and only become "important" maybe next generation as more games that use it come out and gpus get powerful enough to use it and be playable without things like dlss/fsr
@blueprint7
@blueprint7 Жыл бұрын
@@SwingArmCity The cope is real with AMD fanboys
@SwingArmCity
@SwingArmCity Жыл бұрын
@@Borsecann in won't disagree with that.
@r_turner
@r_turner Жыл бұрын
TUF does look better this time vs Strix ... Btw When can we expect 60s ,70s , 600s or 700s for the midrange builds??
@will_marchant
@will_marchant Жыл бұрын
Great video, but can you pls tell us if they stutters like all rx 6000 series!!!!!!!, Thxs.
@Terry-zr6ys
@Terry-zr6ys Жыл бұрын
Team red all the way. I have had nothing but team green gpu sincei had a 980 but no more their pricing anymore is absolutely ludicrous and I want be taken advantage of them.
@IlyesView.
@IlyesView. Жыл бұрын
a love you bro ....keeeb going....tanks so much
@svenau9814
@svenau9814 Жыл бұрын
How good is the vx7900xtx in VR?
@dante19890
@dante19890 Жыл бұрын
if u only play non demanding multiplayer games just go for the 6800xt and put everything to low and save half the money. If u paying big money for a gpu u obviously want the nextgen tech and raytracing will be in every new game that is released nowdays.
@NicolSD
@NicolSD Жыл бұрын
I got an XTX the morning it was released and it's been nothing but problems from the get go. It's all been caused by drivers. On the first day, there was no driver and the one that Adrenalin installed was unstable. Then the real one came out the next day. Guess what happened after I installed it? My computer wouldn't boot any more. I did a clean install and it seemed fine... until it wasn't . I've just about had it and am considering purchasing a 4080.
@tonyh1474
@tonyh1474 Жыл бұрын
Likewise i bought amd xtx reference card and was not impressed with the speed and the noise levels. Also AMD drivers seem to have a lot of bloatware. I sent it back and got an Nvidia rtx 4080 for around £150 more and well worth it. Nvidia card just felt like quality product. Works perfect with no messing or beta testing drivers and option of just driver installatiion. Plus its super super quiet.
@Astravall
@Astravall Жыл бұрын
I'm on my Ryzen 3900X still, ordered a 7900 XTX and power supply as i fear my trusty 650 Watts Bequiet Dark Pro 12 will not cut it ;). I will see what AMD announces at CES if and when X3D versions of the Ryzen 7000 CPUs will be released and then see if i upgrade CPU Mainboard and RAM too.
@runspenstinski
@runspenstinski Жыл бұрын
does anyone know where to buy the asus tuf 7900xtx ? I've been looking for the model but I can't find it anywhere,.
@coachjuresmerdelj8679
@coachjuresmerdelj8679 Жыл бұрын
Have 7900xtx, all current games + Red Dead Redemption 2/Witcher 3, Shadow of War, Call of Duty, Total War Warhammer 3 ultra all on and smoooooth. Can’t complain.
@Nite-Lite-Gamers
@Nite-Lite-Gamers Жыл бұрын
Also, I have now watched about 12 reviewers on the 4080 vs the 7900xtx, the reviewers all mention price but not one mentioned there is 24gb on the xtx and 16gb on the 4080......
@varunpandey6297
@varunpandey6297 Жыл бұрын
2:00 2:48 3:10 3:55 4:35 6:10 6:40 10:22 10:40 13:30 13:41 14:40 14:57 15:10 16:30 17:30 18:54
@KingdomheartsSTARWARS
@KingdomheartsSTARWARS 18 күн бұрын
amazing stuff cool videos! wow that fps at 4k 😮😅 yeah im getting this amd card soon im excited 😊 my nvidia card is having problems for a little while…
@geovanivela6733
@geovanivela6733 Жыл бұрын
I have a ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3080 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Video Card ROG-STRIX-RTX3080-O12G-GAMING would the XTX be better in terms of editing pictures and Videos at 4k?
@TheShepherdsPath
@TheShepherdsPath Жыл бұрын
undervolting shifts the FREQ Boost to use less voltage for the same FREQ basically resulting in higher AVG FREQ
@anthonyholmes5965
@anthonyholmes5965 Жыл бұрын
It’s a hard question to answer until the 7900xtx is more readily available. Right now when you can get a 4080 at msrp vs 7900xtx at scalper prices.
@bloxoss
@bloxoss Жыл бұрын
fr
@michaelw2263
@michaelw2263 Жыл бұрын
I'm leaning towards the 7900 XTX simply because there are almost no options on the Nvidia side that would fit in my SFF build. With the 7900 XTX, there are at least a handful that do. And that is enough to sway me towards team red.
@lifeofa200sx7
@lifeofa200sx7 Жыл бұрын
in my case the price as well as the performance are what are attracting me . was originally going to go with an 4070ti with my i5-12600k build but the 7900 XTX should be more then fine for it
@laszlodajka5946
@laszlodajka5946 Жыл бұрын
​@@lifeofa200sx7and the 24 gb vram will take it much farther in the future
@gpeeps
@gpeeps Жыл бұрын
What kind of case is that? O11 dynamic?
@XBnPC
@XBnPC Жыл бұрын
Absolutely in Love with my XFX 7900 XTX!! Been playing every "broken" game maxed out at native 4k@60fps on Day 1 since launch 😊🎉
@him9613
@him9613 Жыл бұрын
what cpu
@brada3731
@brada3731 11 ай бұрын
And how much power that card is eating 520w or lower
@ultrainst1ct403
@ultrainst1ct403 Жыл бұрын
In Belgium the 7900xtx (base version) is only 100€ cheaper than a 4080 (oc + better noise/temps) so there's no real reason to buy an 7900xtx...
@bloxoss
@bloxoss Жыл бұрын
fr
@spartanmtb2640
@spartanmtb2640 Жыл бұрын
Same in the UK. AMD had a perfect opportunity to snatch some Nvidia customers but instead the usual primal shirt sighted greed took over
@ultrainst1ct403
@ultrainst1ct403 Жыл бұрын
@@spartanmtb2640 yup , if the price was what they announced (1000) then I would maybe consider it but right ...not a chance
@Saegan7
@Saegan7 Жыл бұрын
germany aint so different this was the reason why i bought a 4080 ....
@dominikbehrendt1934
@dominikbehrendt1934 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, very similar in Germany. It's actually hilarious how the lesser card (XT) ended up only ~150€ below the lowest priced 4080s on Wednesday or Thursday...
@FesteringRatSub
@FesteringRatSub Жыл бұрын
What monitor are you using that runs Apex at 4k with 240fps? Does such a monitor exist?
@math1ass10
@math1ass10 15 күн бұрын
Would it make sense to go with a rtx 4080 if for some weird reason they both cost the same in my country?
@Yourboytimothy
@Yourboytimothy Жыл бұрын
What cpu was used ?
@grizzleebair
@grizzleebair Жыл бұрын
Great video, good job. One of the other Tech YTers I follow called it, he was afraid that AIB's would be lazy and use the same or similar coolers they made for the nVIDIA cards and just modify them for the AMD cards. I will not buy any of these because they are unnecessarily huge and will be over priced because of the over designed cooler they are using. I would buy an actual AMD model if I was buying one.
@bryzeer5075
@bryzeer5075 Жыл бұрын
Just get a Ventus 4080 off the MSI store. They sell with free shipping and no tax. Total is $1,189.
@markmyshark
@markmyshark Жыл бұрын
I'm getting 7900xt due to playing 1440p even with some RT on its going to be able to run all the games I want to play. Thanks for the comparison!
@carabelatech
@carabelatech Жыл бұрын
Can I use a g sync monitor with the 7900 xtx?
@hash_bandicoot2
@hash_bandicoot2 Жыл бұрын
Tonight on PC Centric, Marcus has a feeling, Marcus opens a PC and Marcus fondles a card. *queue top gear theme*
@05DAGShoma
@05DAGShoma Жыл бұрын
WHY FSR 1.0 IF 2.1 CAN USE IN CP2077?
@nxte3901
@nxte3901 Жыл бұрын
Anybody who knows a lot about AMD GPU's. do the work capabilities of AMD cards compare well with the Nvidia equivalent? Even without the CUDA cores in AMD, does AMD still work well in a non-gaming environment. Also, a lot of games that I play support DLSS but not FSR. Can playing games without FSR on a 7900xtx compare to playing games on an Nvidia card with DLSS on? Thanks!
@mixoner5686
@mixoner5686 Жыл бұрын
I keep getting "update graphics driver" crash midgame when I play Valorant. I tried everthing on the internet and even reached out to the Valorant support team multiple times but it still crashes. Could you please help me fix that or let me know if i just need a new pc. My PC is only 2 years old and I bought a new GPU cos of the crash but it still continued. Got softwares like Driver Easy and Restoro but the crash still continues. My PC is clean and dust free and the specs are good as well so I really have no idea what the problem is. I would appreciate it if anyone could help me in this case. P.S. watching u build a PC makes me want to build another one.
@johnpaulbacon8320
@johnpaulbacon8320 11 ай бұрын
Great video.
@martygenska8117
@martygenska8117 Жыл бұрын
I really do like these reviews on graphics cards because I'm pretty close to pulling all things together to start my build. My question is, have you ever considered getting an Nvidia card directly from Nvidia? They actually seem to have the best price; especially when it comes to the 3090ti and 4080.
@slavefeet57
@slavefeet57 Жыл бұрын
I recently tried to get one directly from ASUS and it was a nightmare lmao. Hopefully NVIDIA isn't as bad. (I had 5 orders get cancelled on me during processing) I eventually decided to go through Amazon/Newegg. Got super lucky and found the OC TUF 7900xtx at retail being sold by Amazon!!!
@Unbreakable245
@Unbreakable245 Жыл бұрын
Can you actually?
@martygenska8117
@martygenska8117 Жыл бұрын
@@Unbreakable245 Actually buy from NVidia? I guess so, it was on their site for purchase when I was looking. I ended up with a 4080 FE from Best Buy in the end.
@malikon6953
@malikon6953 Жыл бұрын
I bought my 4070 FE directly from Nvidia. I have to confess though that lately I've been using an AMD GPU and I'm very happy with it. Really thinking seriously about picking up the 7900XTX because it seems to be beating the 4080 in a lot of benchmarks.
@Jamie71q
@Jamie71q Жыл бұрын
my 6800 non xt will do me @ 1440p for a while longer, good review
@Pandorum12345
@Pandorum12345 Жыл бұрын
Did you just try to oc while in game?? Aren't you supposed to restart the game?
@carrionwithout_me
@carrionwithout_me Жыл бұрын
Okay but the BenchMarcus segway was perfect!
@LivingLegacyz
@LivingLegacyz Жыл бұрын
Banger video and channel
@aarongreen121
@aarongreen121 8 ай бұрын
The majority of games i play are from 2008-14 so don't use ray tracing. I also do a spot of VR sim racing, would the AMD card be a better shout then? I'm going to be getting more memory and 13th gen 7 series k (if that helps with the answer)...
@lumbanimganga283
@lumbanimganga283 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video big fan
@aidansedore5182
@aidansedore5182 Жыл бұрын
Do you think 32gb ddr4 3600mhz and 5900x is good enough for 4k with the 7900xtx? Or is the extra 650$ worth it for the 7700x and ddr5 6200mhz and new motherboard
@f-22raptor25
@f-22raptor25 Жыл бұрын
Yeah should be fine. Monitor refresh rate and types of games you play matters also, but performance increase for $700 is not worth it
@gageboy14
@gageboy14 8 ай бұрын
I lost my Tuf 4090 OC to a glass of water. Couldn’t afford another 4090 so I got the Tuf 7900xtx because of the 384 bit bus. Need a card to power my Reverb G2. Tried the 4070 ti, lol! 192 memory bus was a joke trying to run Assetto Corsa through my Reverb G2. Hoping for the best.
@dragonld123
@dragonld123 Жыл бұрын
Those benchmark results try to compare Reference 4080 with AIB 7900xtx or Reference 4080 vs Reference 7900xtx? It would be nice to see Benchmarks of RoG Strix 4080 vs TUF 7900xtx.
@user-nd6og8si9p
@user-nd6og8si9p Жыл бұрын
The only thing I notice about ray tracing is everything looks wet like it just stopped raining. Idk maybe it's just me but exaggerated wet reflections do nothing for me but lower fps.
@gohca88
@gohca88 Жыл бұрын
should i pair the amd rx7900xtx with intel or amd cpu? purely for gaming. which gives better performance?
@natalyiatimoshenkova1273
@natalyiatimoshenkova1273 Жыл бұрын
Purely for gaming, it's largely moot. At this moment, if you've got an AM4 motherboard, get the 5800X3D and drop it in. If not? Get the better bargain. 13th gen Intel outperforms Zen4 in pure multithreaded workloads. Downside is that's the end of the line for the Intel socket. Next year the X3D versions of Zen4 will arrive, which will (again, for gaming) likely stomp all over 13th gen. If you can wait three-six months? Probably worth doing.
@earthtaurus5515
@earthtaurus5515 Жыл бұрын
As much I'm miffed about how the AMD launch event went, objectively speaking it's not entirely surprising either given Nvidia and Intel engage in such practises as well (if I was to be all emotional about it... I'd never be upgrade from the second hand RX590 and my family members will miss out of future opportunities).. I will be getting the 7900 XTX albeit on a monthly payment plan. So, if it does turn out that there is a hardware flaw and it would require RDNA 3+ to fix then the 7900 XTX would be going back. As ultimately, the 7900 XTX will be going into the AM4 based PC i've built for my sibling. As the in socket upgrades from the 5600X in terms of cores is more than enough to last for years and so the only upgrades needed would be a a monitor from 1080p to 1440p / 4k. With dp 2.1 there is alot more flexibility there too. Then there is the option of handing down the AM4 rig to another family member with RX480 / RX590 and I'll just hand my newly built 7950X AM5 rig down (crosshair x670e motherboard and cpu bought on monthly plan - thinking several years ahead) a few years down the line to my sibling 🤷🏽‍♂and with the upgradeability of AM5, it will last a good long while - maybe a decade or more.
@thecwwshow8036
@thecwwshow8036 Жыл бұрын
Can I have an up to date on your situation
@earthtaurus5515
@earthtaurus5515 Жыл бұрын
@@thecwwshow8036 Sure, running on a RX6750XT now. As was due to build a PC a for another family member with a RX6750XT about 3 months back. He changed his mind and as I bought the GPU in December it was just under MSRP. As prices went up, I decided to use the GPU instead of letting it gather dust. The RX590 has gone to my sibling. Given what I now know about what's coming down the pipe in terms games etc. I'm skipping RDNA3 for me personally and will be getting a RDNA4 GPU. The RX6750XT will be going to my sibling. Depending on the career path it may be left as at that or upgraded to a second hand 5950X and a second hand 7900XTX . If the latter happens, the 5600+RX6750XT will be joining the RX480 and RX590+2700X into builds and handed down to family members or given to a local charity.
@vega8050
@vega8050 Жыл бұрын
11:35 are you using an outdated version of the game? Shouldn't it be FSR 2.1?
@filippopiloto8682
@filippopiloto8682 Жыл бұрын
Im getting the XFX RX 7900 XTX this week! Let’s see how it goes
@lieinking123
@lieinking123 Жыл бұрын
which 4k monitor is he using?
@laszlodajka5946
@laszlodajka5946 9 ай бұрын
That tuf card with its chunkiness looks so crisp. The noise of its wrapping sent down chills in my spine lol
@Bunderwahl
@Bunderwahl Жыл бұрын
If you just play games, nothing else, and if you just want speed without the best visual effects, and if you are planning to buy another graphics card in two to three years the 7900 might save you a few dollars. If you want to use your computer for productivity and creative purposes, if you want to enjoy the most immersive atmosphere (raytracing and DLSS), if you do not want to have to upgrade later because more and more titles come out with raytracing (some possibly required) then you might want to shell out a few more dollars/pounds now.
@orion9k
@orion9k 4 ай бұрын
You should add in your benchmarks 'PowerConsumption per generated frame'
@zitosonic
@zitosonic Жыл бұрын
What Should You Buy? neither of the last gen GPUs
@PenguinsTechStuff
@PenguinsTechStuff 11 ай бұрын
I only play flight sim (Microsoft flight simulator 2020) which one should I get
@gusaaaa
@gusaaaa Жыл бұрын
I got a 7900XTX in the hope that they will make up some of the gap on RT with driver updates/FSR 3 and also because Jensen was just too greedy with the 4080. I don't know whether anyone else is having driver timeout crashes playing The Witcher with RT on but hopefully it will all get sorted out soon.
@Nat-yf6ff
@Nat-yf6ff Жыл бұрын
Idk man, buying a GPU in the hopes of unreleased features and driver updates is so low The cost per frame of the 4080 and 7900xtx are extremely similar, the extra 20% for Nvidia is easily justified for the better RT and DLSS without the rest of the advantages Both horrible value imo
@anuzahyder7185
@anuzahyder7185 Жыл бұрын
Bro first of all fsr is not good enuf. Im expecting fsr frame gen to be not that good either n we dont even know when it’s going to come out. The rt performance is also meh. Everyone is having stuttering in witcher unless u have 4080 n 4090. I didnt encounter any crash on my 4090 but i have heard 3000 se n 6000 se users having such issues. So it’s mostly due to cdpr. But i dont think u can even turn rt on in witcher with that card. I think if 7900xtx didnt release the card, nvidia wud have been forced to drop the price. But after amds release ppl are going in numbers to buy the 4080.
@paulbaddiley7326
@paulbaddiley7326 Жыл бұрын
I have had driver timeout issues on the 6800xt for the last year or so, so dont hold your breath on it getting fixed soon. Such a shame as it runs so well when it works properly
@yellowflash511
@yellowflash511 Жыл бұрын
@@anuzahyder7185 FSR 2.0 is good enough. And everyone is having issues with the next gen w3 update. Many have reported it crashing and stuttering on even 4090s.
@yellowflash511
@yellowflash511 Жыл бұрын
@@anuzahyder7185 also, no one is buying 4080. Whereas the XTX sold out everywhere.
@itachi005
@itachi005 Жыл бұрын
RTX is the future. Look how big of a deal it is when RTX came to witcher 3 and portal lol for a $1000 card you better be having these features.
@DJIInLondon
@DJIInLondon Жыл бұрын
V sync fixes coil whine, in mw adjust your max menu fps to fix :)
@Amiga1200_Juicer
@Amiga1200_Juicer Жыл бұрын
Amd's lows are pretty consistent, to me this is the most important thing.Thanks a bunch sir. İ think i gave my decision...
@hopoff9968
@hopoff9968 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone has ever told you this but you're like a UK Steve from American Dad, love your videos man👍
@Thomasdk1405
@Thomasdk1405 Жыл бұрын
Not sure what cpu used here or sam enabled or not but stutter is cpu / gpu communication. Dx12 works like this it saves shaders on your c drive in documents folder ! Also amd wise their drivers is not as user friendly as nvidia. You need to disable ULPS ! You need to make custom setting under performance section. Raise min. clock from 500 mhz to 200-300 mhz below your max clock so range is like 2200 - 2500 eg. Otherwise you can risk that it throttles to 500 mhz and then up again and that will 100 % give stutter ! I have 6900 xt and zero stutter in bf 2042 - smooth as butter !
@SonicDestiny
@SonicDestiny Жыл бұрын
These massive coolers are actually incredible important and very useful since they are able to cool gpu so much ,it is able to stay completely silent even under crazy demanding load compare to previous generation also have No idea why people are so obssesed with cramming such powerful cards and letting them fry in such tiny cases.
@Borsecann
@Borsecann Жыл бұрын
Because a mid-tower should be the default in which an average gpu should fit ? I like my full-tower cases as much as the next e-peen-flexing nerd but I can see why not everyone would want one, need one..and god forbid you ever have to move one.
@forog1
@forog1 Жыл бұрын
There are definitely needs for big coolers, but companies should consider making smaller coolers as well. If they just simply did that there would be no complaints, like we can still have the full-sized ASUS STRIX but on the side have an ASUS STRIX slim edition. Looks would be the same and can do the same for the TUF and other brands. I think all would be happy then. You get the fat modals if you're into OCing no compromise setups right before water cooling and get the slims for small cases or if they simply just want to run them at stock and be done with the build.
@SonicDestiny
@SonicDestiny Жыл бұрын
@@Borsecann these kind of people with mid size cases should then stay looking for average older gpus cos these high end gpu are clearly not designed for them
@SonicDestiny
@SonicDestiny Жыл бұрын
@@forog1 they could but then slimmer versions wold be then much more hotter and louder if they would be forced to do same performance with limited cooling without OC.These with small cases should stick with older gpu and don`t try to fry these high end gpus in them. If they have so muych money to waste on 4080 ,buying new case wouldnýt be that much problem.
@Borsecann
@Borsecann Жыл бұрын
@@SonicDestiny You do realize that a mid-tower does not have anything to do with a mid range case right ? Size and quality are 2 separate things. And these gpus not being designed for what most peope use is the entire issue discussed.
@lukelacross190
@lukelacross190 Жыл бұрын
Wanna get the Powercolir 7900 xtx Hellhound, but everything sold out in 5 minutes
@robn71
@robn71 Жыл бұрын
Soon we are going to need shipping containers for our computer case's 😀
@SwingArmCity
@SwingArmCity Жыл бұрын
No, the pc will be built off the gpu. Since the gpu's are the size of motherboards
@deezyb858
@deezyb858 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else get the stig reference at 13:20. I lol’d
@dallaslooksmaxxer3505
@dallaslooksmaxxer3505 7 ай бұрын
If you care about Raytracing and DLSS, go with RTX. If you value raw performance and a good amount of VRAM. Go with AMD… And before you write off AMD, just remember that it will have a huge FSR update in spring 2024💯
@evacody1249
@evacody1249 Жыл бұрын
Most normal gamers don't care about RT.
@math1ass10
@math1ass10 15 күн бұрын
"But we, are not most gamers, we are simers, we ar vr gamers, we have the will... the resources... to make these framerates count!"
@Minimalici0us
@Minimalici0us Жыл бұрын
Scalpers already selling the XTX on eBay for 2300€ 😂 At that price point I rather go for the 4090
@bloxoss
@bloxoss Жыл бұрын
FRRRRR
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