America's Cup Challenger Trials - The 6 min Review - 12-9-24

[@jamieallam8809]

Will be interesting to see .ETNZ with all its new enhancements and new sails. They were more than competitive already

[@davidbarrow7718]

Matt, you are just getting better and better at this. Many congrats 👏

[@PlanetSailOnline]

Very kind …..thanks

[@warrendarress6901]

Matt, first time I saw your commentary I did not like it, as it was just the races I wanted to see. You have grown on me and now I look forward to your commentary as it has shown to be spot on! Thanks from a fellow Britt. C'mon Ben!

[@michaelhermans4753]

Great wrap up Matthew, I’m excited as you are what’s about to unfold

[@janallen1243]

Excellent commentary

[@TVRV8]

I think Ineos have designed a boat for higher winds and difficult sea state - they did a similar thing in Auckland and were fast when the conditions suited but slow when it was light. The difference is this time they've managed to get speed in light conditions as well as demonstrate good pace when it gets choppy. Remember also they missed-out on some wins due to unforced errors, some of which were down to software issues. In fact, one area that the Kiwis have a major advantage is software - they're supplying it and they know how to set it up and tweak it.

[@fedup3449]

And..........if by some strange anomaly, someone who designed that software had a back door entry to the said software?

[@actiaint]

Thanks, i think we can expect similar improvement curves for all teams. Ineos imo brought forward preplanned improvements.

[@Penguinracer]

The development race...across both hardware & sailing technique is on...the challenger race may prove to be more open than many thought...

[@peterdale7896]

Sky News hosted Sir Ben Ainsley live this morning. Great interview

[@christophercole8877]

As an American who was in Newport for several America’s Cup series, including the Australian win in 1983, I’d love to see the British boat win it this time! 😎 But yes, I’ll be rooting for American Magic…. 🫣

[@nickwalters5380]

I'm sure those recumbent cyclist on AM are efficient for aero and steady power but I can't see how they can generate as much peak power during the transitions. The ability to stand on your pedals when really going for it can't be underestimated for more watts in short bursts. Time will tell but I think its a bit of a technological cul-de-sac.

[@firstnamelastname2669]

I haven't seem any cyclors standing up. If the power data is released as the protocol says it should be then we will get to the bottom of this. Even if it is after the event I hope they do.

[@jamesaron1967]

Like the other commenter stated no cyclors have been viewed standing. I haven't seen them and they don't need to. The standard cycling position offers high-power delivery. Recumbent positioning is at least 20% lower. Every team has the same number of cyclors. That's really all that needs to be said.

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@jamesaron1967 usually stated as closer to 10%. I'd be more concerned about the fact that they're facing the wrong way to get a good supply of air. All that apparent wind is blowing over their heads from behind.

[@jamesaron1967]

@@weatheranddarkness In recumbent circles it's never accepted to be only 10%. Just ask anyone who rides both positions with power meters. If it was merely 10% the discrepancy wouldn't have been such a hot topic all these decades among 'bent riders. The topic is too broad and complex to go into any detail here and will leave it at that. Regarding airflow, AM also installed fairings over the cyclor openings to improve streamlining. The setup on that yacht is great for aerodynamics but wondering at what cost...?

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@jamesaron1967 10% is what the AM guys in the GCN video are claiming the studies showed.

[@tropicthndr]

What, no mention of recovery and repairs after New Zealand’s boat dropped into the cradle, what happened there??

[@pierheadjump]

⚓️ Thanks PS 😎 Mike 🌈

[@BillGernert]

American Magic is sandbagging! (I hope!!!)

[@Despiser25]

What in the rules would be a reason to sandbag? Me too lol.

[@ggergg6423]

I just think they are slower, time will tell.

[@irtnyc]

It is interesting that they are losing races by falling off the foils. Which is perhaps easy to do unnecessarily. That might be consistent with not wanting to play all their "hold cards" when it doesn't matter, yet. On the other hand, it is interesting that according to TS a year ago (per video here on YT) they intentionally chose a foil that is faster but only when they have enough wind to stay up. That might have been a stupid choice. If it's not windy. Unfortunately, it is not windy.

[@vinipiz]

Whoever is against American manic needs to drag them in a tacking duel. Their cyclor sounded like he was about to drop over the mic when they got into a tacking duel.

[@jamesaron1967]

Absolutely nothing to gain by sandbagging. Those who claim that's what any team except NZ is doing should provide reasons.

[@boatboy222]

So at 5.22 they picked up some cavitation having crossed the other trail and now they are vulnerable?🤭

[@PatNanai-bw2kf]

Taihoro, ETNZ for a fourpeat

[@weatheranddarkness]

four? How do you forget they lost SF? They have to win this one to even have a look in on a fourth

[@PatNanai-bw2kf]

@weatheranddarkness they are the defenders bro, history will repeat itself once again in this AC and many more ahead.

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@PatNanai-bw2kf I appreciate your spirit, but maybe call for a threepeat when you've only won two in a row so far? Oracle only won two in a row, Alinghi only won two in a row. Before that Harold Vanderbuilt 1930-34-37 is the only threepeat to have happened in the history of the Cup. Four has never happened.

[@PatNanai-bw2kf]

@weatheranddarkness I understand 👍 threepeat then. Let's have close but not to close. The defenders' weaknesses are vonuble Lessgo...🫡🇳🇿🏆

[@jeriksson7686]

IMO foiling and matchracing are not very exciting to watch. I miss boat and sail handling. I miss boats being in the water instead of above. Maybe I am just old.. but Americas Cup in Australia was amazing ✌️

[@EnglishLawyer]

Matt what still amazes me is that people like you have forgotten about the difference between NZL 92 and NZL 95. Who is to say that the older Ineous is not faster than the later Ineous? Newer doesn't make better

[@fabiocampagnoli]

Ineos had just a couple of good days...they will be out in NO time.

[@colinhare4722]

It's a development race... What happened 2 weeks ago is inconsequential. It's down to who can make the right changes to their boats and how they sail as a team. At the moment you'd have to say INEOS have the steepest upward development curve but that can change very quickly.

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@colinhare4722 always risks from any team of only managing sideways rather than upward development too, so regardless it can still go any way.

[@fabiocampagnoli]

​​Bottom line, Ineos is a 🚜

[@jonnyrush1]

Go pomies from a expat K1W1 🇬🇧🇳🇿🇨🇦

[@phillipmurray1724]

Thanks for the updates 😃 I think American Magic have got it wrong with their cyclors. They just went too far out of the box. Both mentally and physically for the cyclists as in facing the wrong and being in a recumbent position. I know that it shouldn't matter but that's another layer added to their mental game. I think you just feel more part of the action if you can see something in the direction you are wanting to go. Performance wise we are seeing it in front of our eyes. Their gains in aerodynamics maybe cancelled out in pushing the boat out too far. 🚵🚴‍♂🚴‍♀🚴

[@yachticus]

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