American Horror Stories “Drive In” is a blatant RIP OFF

[@CMA-90]

Yes, the ending is pointless as this video is as well.. man, you just wasted 10 mi of my life for no reason... I think you have some frustrations to work on. I move on to something else.

[@cainvarner]

you’re welcome 💋

[@kp2ng]

pin of shaaame!

[@lyricsmania11]

I wish I could laugh react

[@grantnewton4230]

Lol

[@augustwilson9633]

“And I’m not even going to say that Ryan Murphy has ever been original because let’s just be honest” drag him again for me

[@cainvarner]

do you guys like the idea of me adding in the little tid bits of past horror media that AHStories clearly ripped off???

[@KFresh1026]

It's always to to hear a interesting intelligent perspective so keep on keeping on 💃💕

[@lyricsmania11]

Yes sir 🫡

[@ladyhitchhikerjackmanson8097]

Y e s

[@GoddessofWisdom]

Definitely!!!

[@F66x]

Yeah! Would love to see your take on other horror anthology series too (maybe, eventually).

[@lucaleone4331]

Two things stood out to me. 1.ryan Murphy has gotta stop with young people having s** 2. The actor (chad) is the voice of Camilo from encanto ❤

[@cainvarner]

omg really??? i didn’t know i might have to stan that actor i love that film🤭

[@lNoWayAroundItl]

9:32 Thank you. The dialogue was over the top. And it does feel weird that so much of Murphy’s projects have the obsession of young people’s sexual activity. 9:58 It gives off early 2000s PSA vibes.

[@leanz2364]

ive been obsessed with Norman Reedus and Cigarette Burns for years. i really appreciate you including this and giving it credit for the inspo.

[@leanz2364]

theres no drive-in in Cigarette Burns, but the main character is the owner of a small movie theater and is a prominent location throughout the film.

[@madmadge2532]

I don't know dick about Gen Z slang (pun intended), but if I were going to make a project with Gen Z characters, I would put in the effort to learn.

[@jencendiary]

If you had not mentioned Cigarette Burns (the far superior telling of this story), I think I would have screamed.

[@dicepudding]

Woah, new episode just dropped right when I need more background noise to get me through the last part of my work day? Sweet.

[@plutosboy]

Ryan Murphy better be locking his doors I stg

[@KFresh1026]

I love how you named off quite a few drive-in flickyz 💃🎶✨ your service is amazing 💖

[@cainvarner]

i wanna incorporate that into each of these AHStories videos because the concepts they pull from are rarely original and i’d love to spread the word about indie or unknown films that are probably better

[@KFresh1026]

And I found and followed cause you served so much more info then I've found AND you love the same things so I'm here for it!! Thank you so much for your efforts and perspective ❤️

[@j.r.cilliangreen4083]

Not a true drive in movie bur a drive in features in it.. The Town that Dreaded Sundown. Both versions

[@KFresh1026]

Take out the horror elements and it's close to being a CSI episode and close to the lower budget story line 😂

[@britnicox3929]

If they had made this a reference to the yellow king I’d honestly like it a lot more. It wouldn’t be original bc I’ve already read a story of a movie of the yellow king driving people crazy and leading them to pure debauchery, but I’d at least respect it

[@kenasmith1770]

I would love to see you do a video like this on ratched, scream queens or scream the tv show! Love these videos so obsessed

[@s.ugahoneyicetea]

He should def do scream Queens, but the other ones I would also love to see!!

[@thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319]

Finally caught up with your content and you upload another banger This episode is my fav of the series it’s the most enjoyable and tickles my lost film/media hyperfixated brain

[@ariannebrodeur]

Honestly as an asexual person it makes me absolutely tired just hearing about a story that's being so pushy about teens having sex. Like wtf. It's 2024. Let people, especially MINORS, do what the fuck they want? Weird as fuck for a series written by adults to have an episode be entirely about pressuring a teenaged girl to have sex when she clearly isn't ready. Like some people don't wanna have sex and some people have different boundaries for sex like ?!?!? Leave the girl alone wtf 😭 and of course it ends with her doing it anyway bc what even are boundaries. Like I love the sex positivity we have nowadays but it can so easily lean into just the same old heteronormative pressures and It's like how does no one see the issue with having a half cooked barely coherent story about a girl being pressured into sex like are we being fr you'd think we'd move past this bs 😭 I just feel bad for kids growing up today bc for all the kids who feel safe in their sexuality there's the other half who feel lame and childish for not doing stuff they aren't even interested in bc its seen as cool and normal to do. Like that's what creates trauma and coercion in young kids and teens so I just get so angry seeing it pushed in media. Also is Kelly played by the girl from Outerbanks bc that's wild what is she doing 😭

[@cyalo]

i totally agree. you can be completely sex positive, the opposite of asexual, and allow women and girls to have control over their bodies WITHOUT sex. some examples off the top of my head are hairstyles, or style in general. girls get pushed to go bright blonde and have that hourglass figure. this could have been about addiction to plastic surgery, starting with bullying as a child. it absolutely could have had the same effect without sexifying everything like ALL media does. its gross. keep kids out of sex, and learn how to write a females perspective on horror w/o bordering to full on assault hollywood 🙄

[@siobhanflanagan4339]

Yesss!!! And on top of that teens can start to feel shame for not being interested, ready or be considered “behind” in that area of romantic relationships, this constant exposure of teenagers on screen having romantic relationships that are heavily based on sex is also weird because why are we showing adults playing minors having sex ??

[@applejones1697]

Please just do more of these, i really appreciate seeing bits of the visual while you explain. You can grab the entire demographic right now because ive found it very very difficult to find episode by episode recaps of AHS from someone very passionate about the show. There's just no one.

[@cowboycalstar]

omg i was waiting for thissss please tell me you’re doing the entire american horror stories series deep dive despite the sanity you might lose

[@cainvarner]

yes

[@cowboycalstar]

@@cainvarner i commented before i finished my bad king

[@jaykay1899]

You should make a series talking about LOST. I believe you’ve mentioned it before in one of your videos. It would be a HUGE project but it needs to live on! The younger generations need to remember how amazing this show is

[@cainvarner]

believe me i want to but mikes mic is doing that right now and i don’t wanna copy him

[@jaykay1899]

@@cainvarner Ooh thats fair. Well I'll definitely tune in if you ever get the chance to make it! That show literally changed my life when I was growing up lol

[@michelangelow]

Thank you so much for addressing this 😭 This was literally the episode that made me stop watching the franchise unfortunately 😅

[@pollysimons-p4v]

I LOVE UR VIDEOS ICON !!!

[@Ag69553]

Lana in the background? We have no choice but to stan

[@cainvarner]

well yes ofc

[@WisconsinHaunts]

This would be a great Goosebumps episode but… oh it’s just not AHS

[@HeatherHolt]

Lana being so beautiful back there is distracting me in a good way ❤ I adore this channel. Cain makes boss content.

[@jahlisabrown2432]

I’m a new fan of your work. I absolutely love your content💙

[@cainvarner]

thank you bestie!!!

[@trashbasket11]

If netflix did a distribution deal wouldnt they watch it first and figure out their customer base is going to kill eachother and put them out of business?

[@Rozyjean]

you have really put in the work on all these videos! due to how good you are at storytelling/recapping, i have honestly binged *almost* all of your avaliable videos in the last day or so. (mostly the AHS stuff, after hotel i fell off the train. but now im back up to speed thanks to you.) you have a truly lovely voice and cadence! please keep bringing on such excellent content.

[@jaytakajeremiahtisdale2042]

The Christmas episode of this series(I think it's called the naughty list I'm pretty sure) is probably the one I laughed the most at, are you gonna get around to reviewing that episode too?

[@cainvarner]

ofc

[@cyberpunkcentral8500]

Lol, totally my favorite episode of the premier season of "stories," too. 👍 People who despise it are missing out on the glory of hate-watching something so ridiculously OTT! 😅😅😅

[@cyberpunkcentral8500]

Brilliant discovery of the old “Masters of Horror” episode that clearly "inspired"/ was blatantly ripped off in order to make this “Rabbit Rabbit” low-effort horny-teens-at- Drive-In AHS(s) episode. I remember being sooooo disappointed with the ending, and how the director was so easily found so may years later after going off the grid. I seriously cannot believe they just rewrote that old MoH with dude from Walking Dead. (like you, I never watched this show. Couldn’t understand the hype) I get that Carpenter directed and the old “if you’re gonna steal, steal from the greats” thing, but c’mon, man, why you always theivin’, RM?

[@s.ugahoneyicetea]

Loved the video (and the Lana vinyl), you just got yourself a new subscriber!💗

[@CrissyDanielle]

Yessss love your ahs videossss🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@membooey77]

Speaking of ryan murphy may i suggest a glee series? I think it would be so fun because of how unhinged and crazy glee was lmaoo

[@cainvarner]

i have only seen the first season of glee and while i enjoyed it i find it so hard to continue on with it. i’m not sure why. i think someday ill finish it because i loved what i did watch

[@membooey77]

@@cainvarner yess please do! hope you like it, it's one of my fav shows :)

[@incredibleedibledez]

“Feasting on the No no square” is my band name now. Thanks!

[@lauryntonio]

Cain... my hero... does this mean you'll also be covering the horrible Aaron Tveit episode? Bc as I am now, i will be sat.

[@ladyhitchhikerjackmanson8097]

Loved this coverage❤🎉

[@tigibucaro1368]

you have no idea how amazing it was for me to find this video. i have been saying this for YEARS about Ryan Murphy: there is a difference between being inspired by/referencing something and doing a blatant rip-off.

[@SawyBoy]

Omg you haven’t watched TWD!? you really should if you like all these shows! Ik it’s long but omg it’s so good. So are the spin offs. Great shows :)

[@cainvarner]

that’s a huge commitment and i’m rewatching a LOT of things for new videos so if i watch TWD it’d have to be after all of that

[@Ann-t1k4s]

Every time you say gurl or gurlies I giggle like a true gurlie! I've been binging your other AHS stuff you are so good!!!

[@LexyconDevil]

So there is a fairly well known (in horror fandom) movie called Antrum, which is a film with the pretense that it's actually cursed. You get a little mockumentary framing of it, and the film follows with a really eerie atmosphere and seemingly subliminal messages. Just saying this is a pretty cool idea in my opinion; I think it's fine to take ideas that aren't as often explored, because the idea of a cursed horror movie is just urban myth at this point. I do think it's fucking weird to have the strength of this concept along with the drive in, and the non-horror plot elements have to do with teenage BS thru the lens of someone much much older than the current generation of kids. Like I think it would've been stronger to have more linking with the concept of the plot, like someone is a horror enthusiast super into it, someone is more hesitant maybe even spiritual or religious, someone is curious and doesn't believe it's cursed--I just can't imagine teenagers ~casually~ going to a drive in movie that's cursed and they aren't already full in aware of that. Since I'm a writer I just think it's funny to distract your audience with really petty drama BS instead of having your characters be stringently focused on the main plot. It's a practicality thing, like this is a short story, unless you just wanna write about a teen losing their virginity you should REALLY just focus on the entire concept of the story, we don't have more episodes to go back to this boring B or C plot. Just to give you an example of what I mean, Antrum takes place in one spot. An older sister watches over her younger brother, who thinks their dead dog is in hell, and he's trying to dig a hole to find him. She told him about the hole in order to assuage his nightmares about the dog being in Hell, so she just kinda set this up herself, only for his digging to actually start to show them different layers of hell. It's a disturbing movie where imagination and reality are blurring for the characters and pretty importantly, we discover through the film itself what they're even doing and what their motives are. We don't have some fucking random B plot of Normal Real Life Bullshit. It wouldn't add anything to the concept of the film to be like "oh the boy is weird and gets picked on at school and has no friends, that's why he's obsessed with the dog!"--we do not care about that cuz our primary thought is what the fuck happened with the dog for the boy to even assume his dog was going to hell! We just get little to not background on the kids and it amplifies the weirdness of everything. Ryan Murphy has this reflex with comedy and reality grounding in his horror; he doesn't seem to enjoy or revel in something just being fucked up and bad. He assigns rules to things, he makes the afterlife seem like no big deal really, he often undercuts his horror A LOT. But usually it's okay in a regular season because that's going to be made up for and it's sort of AHS' thing to be more camp than it is existentially scary. I still think it's weird to have that reflex when you're making a non episodic story. Like it should be funnier or campier of you're gonna do that but instead it feels cliche and kind of boring in comparison to the horror concept, not complementary or thematically related.

[@mr.robot1399]

YES FINALLY!

[@gakailyn9249]

If you need another series, the fall of the house of usher seems right up your alley

[@jouxlskaard]

that still of the 2 protagonists from screen is so violently 2013. i am kind of obsessed

[@cainvarner]

@@jouxlskaard i know i was like this is a historical artifact actually

[@Jrflipped]

it gives goosebumps, its giving R.L Stien

[@frogbirds]

If you haven't seen Psycho Beach Party you absolutely HAVE TO, it's a camp cult classic. Same guy that did the good Addams family films. It's like a parody of teen horror films, so iconic.

[@lynnanderson1538]

Figures the episode I liked the most from this series was just a floppy copycat

[@cainvarner]

i liked BA’AL the most of course that the least original idea of all time

[@lynnanderson1538]

We know what we like 🤷‍♀️

[@ericb9252]

It definitely reminded me of the wraparound segments of Chillerama

[@Mskittenlover12]

The one thing I can credit this episode for is being the reason I discovered Kim Petras' horror music. Which is the only good music she has made.

[@itbelikethat5480]

Please do a Scream Queens recap. I miss that show sm

[@Em-os9yj]

popcorn is a 80s slasher set in a movie theater

[@emeriemartinez7555]

side point - skin is giving

[@cainvarner]

really?? i thought it was really greasy today 😭 but thank yiu

[@gonzalopriale3293]

Love your t-shirt... What brand is it?

[@cainvarner]

i’m not sure haha it’s a thrifted plain maroon shirt

[@Hotelyorba]

Cain I need you to review a Mike Flanagan show. Any Mike Flanagan show. I recommend just starting with haunting of Hill House. It is the absolute opposite of AHS, it’s thought provoking and beautiful, sometimes genuinely scary, and pays homage to its source material tastefully while still being very original. I would love to hear your thoughts on it. AHS entertains me, but Hill House stays with you. It’s also beautifully shot and gorgeous to look at.

[@cainvarner]

oh i love his work but i have too many other projects at the moment. maybe in october i can squeeze it in

[@Em-os9yj]

(similar to drag) horror can be entertaining when it is self-referential however straight rip offs that are not for the love of the genre are always trash

[@sean5558]

Definitely ripoff of Antrum and Cigarettes Burns although The Yellow King was the precursor to the concept of cursed theatrical works that drive audiences insane

[@very_nervous133]

Episode is BAD, but the intro is GOOOD!!!!!

[@cinder7258]

i thought the blair witch guy directed/wrote this episode not ryan murphey

[@cainvarner]

ryan murphy is still the creator and executive producer which means he has a hand in ideas and approving them!

[@backwardshousecoat]

Even the Ring can be compared with the haunted video

[@bryanlovesyou]

i was about to comment on your glowing skin and for you to give us the skincare routine. 😭🤭

[@cainvarner]

no i was just sweaty😭

[@JohnnyWasabi]

I forgot there was a season 3 and i watched it.😂😂😂😂

[@lesyeuxsansvisage1157]

For the love of all that is holy, please do call out what Murphy has ripped off. Everything that ass has done, has been a ripoff of something superior. Years ago I started a list of every single thing Murphy ripped off. The most obvious would be Freaks, but even Hotel rips off The Devil in the White City. The man doesn’t have an original bone in his body, and I genuinely struggle to grasp how he has made it this far in his career. He depends on the talent of the actors, the problem is, said actors have tapped out. Now what does he have? Kaia Gerber….Oof. (Sorry for any errors, I’ve been struggling with my thyroid cancer treatments and surgeries.)

[@majinally3527]

people still watch this show? i quit after during hotel and came back for the cult and apocalypse and then after that everything sucked apparently

[@cainvarner]

well no. The main AHS series is pretty good. Apocalypse was terrible. but 1984, Red Tide, and NYC are all pretty amazing for modern AHS. This video is on episode 3 of American Horror Stories, the AHS spin off.

[@kaiwancallender2761]

Yeah, this is very badly written

[@hehasnolips1371]

These episodes are written by different people each episode since its an anthology series yes he owns the show but he doesn’t write the episodes

[@cainvarner]

he comes up with each concept… it’s his show. he’s the showrunner.

[@altarriq]

you look kinda green on camera, possibly the lighting?

[@cainvarner]

lmao ok

[@lighterraptor7607]

At least there was a trans representation idk I liked the idea of a haunted evil tape but the other stuff with teen sex and the script and acting yeah it’s kinda major flop

[@freegameskidsteens]

This doesn't sound like a rip off of cigarette burns to be honest. The idea of cursed lost media and media that makes people go crazy is just a trope; it wasn't exactly new when MoH did it, and there have been plenty of other stories with that trope sense then.

[@hannahmatich5192]

Just found this channel, could listen to you review anything. Plz do more. Great work 🤌🤌🙌