American Reacts to Bathurst A9XTorana vs VYSS vs V8Supercar Showdown!

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IWrocker

IWrocker

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@dodgingspice55
@dodgingspice55 3 жыл бұрын
As an Aussie in lockdown your the best thing to happen since covid haha just great friggin content time after time
@adamposadas4163
@adamposadas4163 3 жыл бұрын
Same mate, gotta agree. 3 months in lockdown and counting
@matthewwood8269
@matthewwood8269 3 жыл бұрын
yep
@heathcornbeef
@heathcornbeef 3 жыл бұрын
LANOLIN LANOLIN LANOLIN
@heathcornbeef
@heathcornbeef 3 жыл бұрын
Lube wool and meat
@TCM215
@TCM215 Жыл бұрын
You should have been out there being a man still and defying the criminally insane the illegal mandates and lockdowns
@aaroncody530
@aaroncody530 3 жыл бұрын
Something interesting. Peter brock lived in Nutfield, north of Melbourne (I live in Hurstbridge which is right next to Nutfiled and hosts an old garage which Brock's parents owned and also has a park named after him, Brock Park). Not far from here (4.5ks) is Diamond Creek which is where Craig Lowdnes grew up and went to school (Diamond Creek Tech, now called Diamond Valley College) and then a little further down the road is Greensborough which is where Jamie Whincup grew up (I grew up about 6 doors up and he was one of my childhood friends). So within about 3 suburbs of Melbourne we had Brock, Lowdnes and Whincup, with 23 Bathurst wins and 13 Australian touring Car Championships between them. Pretty extraodinary!
@IWrocker
@IWrocker 3 жыл бұрын
Now that’s amazing!!! Great story 😆👏👍
@aaroncody530
@aaroncody530 3 жыл бұрын
@@IWrocker dude, if you ever make it to Australia (Melbourne specifically), get in touch with me. I've got a car you can borrow and I'd love to show you around, give you a local insight into some of the cool stuff in Melbourne. I'm not just saying that, I absolutely insist you keep this in the back of your mind and should you ever make it down here, I'd love to show you around.
@carlosallende2595
@carlosallende2595 3 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Cody,You got some braggin' rights there. That's brilliant!
@tonyswietochowski2282
@tonyswietochowski2282 3 жыл бұрын
What’s in the water?
@johnvienta7622
@johnvienta7622 3 жыл бұрын
My neighbours here on the Fraser Coast grew up in that area and were friends with the Brock family. They said that Brocky's mum was a very good driver.
@jameshogg7618
@jameshogg7618 3 жыл бұрын
RIP brocky
@adamlee9071
@adamlee9071 3 жыл бұрын
The A9X had a shorter ratio diff in it that day from the last time it was used around eastern creek,if it had the taller diff ratios it would have got that commodore that had a 30 second head start
@rodgoddard5113
@rodgoddard5113 3 жыл бұрын
Torana all the way, loved watching them race at Bathurst especially Brocky's 05 Tory...legendary car, legendary Driver....
@jasonstranthon5183
@jasonstranthon5183 3 жыл бұрын
What woulda been interesting is the same motors same driveline...... torana much heavier than the supercar, but still......
@rodgoddard5113
@rodgoddard5113 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonstranthon5183 yeah, the old girl put up a good fight against the later models,
@-sandman4605
@-sandman4605 3 жыл бұрын
This is the reason why you get so many viewers, it reminds us how lucky we are here in Australia and it shows off how cool we are aswell. Cheers Mate for another great trip down memory lane. 👍🤓🇦🇺
@johnwhear9600
@johnwhear9600 3 жыл бұрын
My 1st car was an LJ Torana. Nothing special, (4 door) just a 186 with a single stromberg carby in front of a column shift trimatic with drum brakes all around, so in my heart, always a Torana. :-)
@micksmith-vt5yi
@micksmith-vt5yi 3 жыл бұрын
nice yea owned a few lc lj 4 door toranas. one lc gtr torana. biggest regret selling it
@ThinkCriticallyNow
@ThinkCriticallyNow 3 жыл бұрын
LC 4door here. Mine had a 202 put in it instead of the 161, what a great car though, I miss it.
@johnwhear9600
@johnwhear9600 3 жыл бұрын
@@micksmith-vt5yi Your 1st love is always the first. Spent my limited funds fixing her up, but the boot rot did me in. The drum brakes were a bit of an arse clencher though... will it stop? Hope so, hope so... :-)
@johnwhear9600
@johnwhear9600 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkCriticallyNow A 202, luxury mate, luxury :-)
@micksmith-vt5yi
@micksmith-vt5yi 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnwhear9600 haha yea, i built a strong 202 in my first lc. big solid cam, head completely ported way out, wasnt much left between the chambers lol. used to shake the parts loose from camming over. owned probably 20 toranas since. last was a lh slr replica that tried fitting a 454 bbc in
@BiffTech05
@BiffTech05 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Skaife is a "modern" legend. He won Bathurst 5 times and took out the V8 championship 5 times as well. Very talented driver.
@BobarissGish
@BobarissGish 3 жыл бұрын
The A9X didn't have the bathurst high speed differential on it so it was topping out so brocky had to hold back so it didn't redline and blow the engine. Because it's last race was some like eastern Creek.
@jasonnielsen2125
@jasonnielsen2125 3 жыл бұрын
It did have the high speed rear end in it. It was, in fact, the highest speed ratio Holden had for the time, 2.6:1 ratio. They chose this ratio to have a higher speed down Conrod Straight. This would also would allow the driver to hold 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear longer for climbing the Mountain. The lower the number, the greater the top speed in high gear, known as a Tall ratio. The taller ( higher ) the speed. This is why drag cars have rear ratios in the range of of 4:1 to 6:1 as they only have to race a short distance. Cheers bud.
@BobarissGish
@BobarissGish 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonnielsen2125 in the report I read the a9x was running a 3.55:1 ratio gearbox on that day in 2004 as they forgot to change it over to its bathurst package. As it is privately owned.
@chopperking1122
@chopperking1122 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonnielsen2125 with a 2.6 diff the thing wouldnt be able to climb mountain straight . a 2.6 diff is that tall the motor wouldnt be able to pull peak revs anyway . they revved them to 7200 , if it could pull peak revs with a 2.6 diff it would be doing about 190 MPH , which of course with 400 odd HP it couldnt
@jasonnielsen2125
@jasonnielsen2125 3 жыл бұрын
It had it bud, trust me. It was specifically homologated for Bathurst, they used it and it pulled top revs. If in 2004, they used the 3:55, that would have made sense as it would have run out of legs down conrod, thus not catching the SS Comm. I can assure you that in 1979, it had the 2:6 in it. You have to keep in mind that the SS Comm is 5.7L with only around 315HP, the A9X has around 420HP. So like I said, if the A9X had better gearing by using the T56 6 speed, the result would have been different.
@obiemichaels9675
@obiemichaels9675 9 ай бұрын
@@jasonnielsen2125sorry mate you are 100% wrong. They don’t run the 2.6 diff in 1979. All teams went to Bathurst in 1977 with the 2.6 diffs and found them too tall . They went back to the 3.08 and if you look at the HDT they had diff failures as they were unprepared. If you watch the HDT video from 77 you will see them change the diff on Saturday night.
@Kristianmac426
@Kristianmac426 3 жыл бұрын
Peter Brock drove a HT Monaro from Melbourne to Bathurst, raced the same car over 1000km, drove it back to Melbourne on Monday, in 1968 or 69 I think! It’s almost 800km trip each way!!
@Kristianmac426
@Kristianmac426 3 жыл бұрын
It was 1969 Brocks first attempt at Bathurst, he came 3rd! Another interesting fact, Peter Brock’s brother Phil, is the stunt driver driving the black Mad Max interceptor in the original Mad Max ( Road Warrior) movie.
@kevkoala
@kevkoala 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kristianmac426 Ol' Split Pin? :D
@flamingfrancis
@flamingfrancis 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kristianmac426 How so. Cars, especially all placegetters, are impounded and sealed for complete scrutinisation by officials after the race
@adamlee9071
@adamlee9071 3 жыл бұрын
@@flamingfrancis it's a true story man,check out Peter Brock doco and it has it all in there,even has him standing next to the car while they paint his name on it,and he is in complete disbelief,he can't believe he is about to do Bathurst in it,and yes he drove it there and back
@chasermalloy7406
@chasermalloy7406 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, 1969
@carlvescio5475
@carlvescio5475 3 жыл бұрын
You need to look at some Craig Lowndes videos after all he was Peter brocks apprentice and would definitely choose the A9X any day of the week
@carlvescio5475
@carlvescio5475 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYOrdoZ-rd2CbNk shows Craig Lowndes at the beginning of he’s career how Peter brock and HRT played such a big part in he’s career
@velocityjet1884
@velocityjet1884 3 жыл бұрын
You are pretty spot on, when talking about Australian production cars, great to see an American having an interest in our Aussie cars, well done Ian, good on yah mate!
@anthonymitchell6764
@anthonymitchell6764 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome 😁 They also have a 12 hour production car endurance race at Bathurst every February I think. World class cars and teams come from all around the glob. The race starts about 5am in the morning. Racing in the dark under there own head lights till 5pm that same night. It’s epic.
@stephenreinhard8946
@stephenreinhard8946 3 жыл бұрын
"Which one would you take?" I don't even consider that to be a real question!
@damianm3786
@damianm3786 3 жыл бұрын
A9X that’s from a Ford fan.
@mgrant011
@mgrant011 3 жыл бұрын
@@damianm3786 I wouldn’t take any of them. All three a pos cars thet will never be remembered in history.
@Monkey_MagicMan
@Monkey_MagicMan 3 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is which would you all choose between a GTHO Phase 3 Falcon or the A9X Torana?
@lewisflynn7018
@lewisflynn7018 3 жыл бұрын
I had a VZ Thunder Ute for 9 years until I got rear-ended driving home from work one day. Write-off, totalled. It's still the best car I've owned and the nicest, most fun vehicles I've ever driven. That red sedan is no slouch. Great event to see. If you do come down here and get the hance to drive an LS engine Holden Ute, I hope you take it. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
@carlosallende2595
@carlosallende2595 3 жыл бұрын
I am lovin' takin' a fresh look at Aus through your eyes, and am in awe of just how quickly you pick up on some of the best aspects of the unique things we've got goin' on 'ere! Peter Brock (Brockie) what a legend! Not only was he undeniably dubbed "King of the Mountain" (meaning Mt. Panorama) he was also called "Peter Perfect", at least in the car he never seemed to put a foot wrong. My brother and I were fascinated when Peter started racing in his little four cylinder car, he'd give them V8's a run for their money, battling it out with them up through the top of the mountain, or through the corners, Brockie had it all over them, that is until they hit the straights, then it was bye-bye Pete, as they made a mockery of his best efforts. But little bro and me were like, "Mate! If Brockie ever gets behind the wheel of a V8 he's gonna show them what matters!", and didn't he prove us right. We would religiously watch every Touring Car race Peter went into, we loved what he could do with his little fours, then sixes, and finally he got his V8. There's more to Brockie's legacy though, here in Aus, the blood alcohol percentage level is 0.05, the biggest driving force behind that being the case? Yep, Peter Brock. Pete was all about being sensible on the road, and he campaigned for years with the .05 number all over his racers, increasing our Aussie awarenesses of the bad combo of drinking and driving. I actually got to meet Peter Brock, I was no longer a beardless boy by then, but when I was in the presence of this legendary driver I felt like I was ten all over again. He shook my hand and showed me his A9X, he and his old racer were in a pavilion/marquee in Adelaide (when the Grand-Prix were still being held there), and he was down to earth and was as excited as I was while he showed me his car and explained it's features. I couldn't believe it, there was the Brock-mobile I'd only ever seen on telly eating up the track, and one of, if not, our greatest racing drivers taking out time for a mere mortal, Loved It! Got on the dog-n-bone and told me brother all about it, and that I mentioned his name to Brockie as well. Some of our faves were Alan Grice, Dicky Johnson, Murray Carter, Peter Janson, the big Cannuck Alan Moffat, so many more, all legends and great blokes into the bargain!
@tilly8221
@tilly8221 3 жыл бұрын
Peter and Mark racing what a awesome time it was back then ❤️🇦🇺😁👍
@geoffhipwell2198
@geoffhipwell2198 3 жыл бұрын
G'day Ian, Man your choices of clips just keep getting better & better. It just keeps proving to me the choice taste that you do have. You never let me down brother. 😉👍
@monogramadikt5971
@monogramadikt5971 3 жыл бұрын
the old man used to take me as a kid to see brocky and the other driving legends of that era race at bathurst, sandown etc. 70s was a different planet yeah.. i remember years later in my teens sitting on a mates front fence out in noble park (not far from sandown raceway), drinking beers and watching local lads drag on dandenong road, that was the mid to late 80s at that point and everything that was good about living in australia (pre globalism on steroids) began to fade out of existance soon after.. glad i got to experience the tail end of it all i guess
@timjohnun4297
@timjohnun4297 3 жыл бұрын
I agree about the older cars and drivers having a lot more character. One of the true legends you probably should do a video on is Larry Perkins, last to first, 1995. Not only was he a legendary driver, but a great engineer also, who built his own cars and also a lot of components for other teams
@johnvienta7622
@johnvienta7622 3 жыл бұрын
Including when he took on the Victorian Highway Patrol and showed them what a really decent driver could do.
@timjohnun4297
@timjohnun4297 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnvienta7622 I must have missed that...or forgotten it. My mind is like a sieve these days lol
@johnvienta7622
@johnvienta7622 3 жыл бұрын
@@timjohnun4297 , there is a mention of it on Google but I remember when it happened. The Police were pretty quick to state that it was not Brock driving it. I have a few mates from that area and they said it was beautiful to watch.
@Tommytoolsqueezer
@Tommytoolsqueezer 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you have to do “Lowndes vs Tander last few laps at Bathurst” the best Bathurst finish I’ve ever seen!
@BiffTech05
@BiffTech05 3 жыл бұрын
I second this, best battle ever on the mountain IMO. Watch the last 10 laps, Tander was way out in front just holding position and Lowndes was on fire catching him. Amazing driving and racing going on.
@Tommytoolsqueezer
@Tommytoolsqueezer 3 жыл бұрын
@@BiffTech05 for sure mate. I miss HRT :(
@downundermtb4744
@downundermtb4744 3 жыл бұрын
Always brings a tear to my eye when I see Brocky.. Even under pressure he had it together..Dick Johnson couldn’t handle it 😂
@christhorney
@christhorney 3 жыл бұрын
man its bringing back memories watching this stuff. RIP brockie 05! Mate that supercar was freakn flying haha. skafe is a bit of a legend too he was one of the main heartbreakers driving the GTR back in the day.
@MegaCorey1977
@MegaCorey1977 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously Dude! You are AWESOME!! Thankyou for having such a deep knowledge of Australian Motorsport
@torahwarrior2442
@torahwarrior2442 3 жыл бұрын
A9X ...no more to say...legend
@HBT1271
@HBT1271 3 жыл бұрын
R.I.P The one, The only, The legend! Peter brock
@thecarwreckhunter
@thecarwreckhunter 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing that race back when it happened, great idea to have a handicap race with different generations of cars
@ceegee3664
@ceegee3664 3 жыл бұрын
The original Torana was sold in America as a Chevrolet 1700 in 1972, they made about 8000 of them, in Oz they became the XU1 and a Cancelled V8 version was the XU2, if you could find a 72 Chevrolet 1700 you could build your own American V8 Torana, that'd get a few views....
@fetusmccarlane9627
@fetusmccarlane9627 3 жыл бұрын
Your understanding of the Aussie pronunciations and phrasing is impressive . Give it a few months and I believe you'll start picking up the accent 😆
@dougharrison7844
@dougharrison7844 3 жыл бұрын
The SS Commodore would be my daily, the V8 Supercar would be my track day car and the A9X would live in my lounge room to be drooled over.
@35manning
@35manning 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, had to thumbs down your comment, but a Torana was built to be driven, even just carefully and sedately on the weekend. To lock it away should be a crime.
@aussiekat6379
@aussiekat6379 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yes 🙌 👍
@Kustom2170
@Kustom2170 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t argue with that 👍🏽
@mackbolan1733
@mackbolan1733 3 жыл бұрын
Great video...yeah, I'd definitely take the A9X in a heart beat...so the A9X was 25 years old at the time of this race but the advancement even by 2004 was huge...it would be good to see them do it again now with the ZB included as a fourth car.
@ThinkCriticallyNow
@ThinkCriticallyNow 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best reaction from an American watching Aussie motor racing. Props for doing your homework mate, well done, subbed!
@nojabjonny
@nojabjonny 3 жыл бұрын
Agree bud, he even pronounced Torana right. Cleetus called rod shops LJ a tarona... Hats off brah.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 3 жыл бұрын
Some discussions of this demo I had come across was that the Peter Brock Torana in this did not have the right Bathurst gearing for the differential so could not get up to the speed it should have on Conrod straight.
@toranacar
@toranacar 3 жыл бұрын
If the A9X had 5th gear it would have helped. It was only 4 gears and I don't think the diff gear was good enough for top speed on the straight.
@gardenlove9742
@gardenlove9742 3 жыл бұрын
A9X shipped with Sailsbury LSD with 2.60:1 final drive
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 3 жыл бұрын
The car was geared with a lower final drive ratio than would normally be used at Bathurst as it had last been raced in the classic series at Eastern Creek. Had it been geared right for the mountain it probably would have caught the SS
@timbates4wdadventures
@timbates4wdadventures 3 жыл бұрын
It's wicked that you feature a lot of videos on the Aussie muscle cars. Top stuff mate. Bathurst is a great car racing event on ever year in New South Wales. The Brock A9X is unreal. Unfortunately Brocky isn't with us anymore.
@colinpeterson2493
@colinpeterson2493 5 ай бұрын
When I was younger I owned one of the second model Torana's made, it was a 1968 Holden Vauxhall Sedan Torana. It was more rectangle like a brick and just as hard to drive. By the end of 79, they had more curves better air scoops and wind flow. It's a shame the model didn't make it thru the 80's. It took many years to work out all the faults and it became a beautiful car in the end
@jasonvicary662
@jasonvicary662 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see you react to Dick Johnson driving Brocks Torana A9X around Bathurst as a tribute to Brock after his death
@colinwhiston5027
@colinwhiston5027 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you watched this one mate, it's great to see how far tech had come and continues til the present. That '79 Torana won by 6 laps ( and set the record on the last lap ) and yet the 2004 road Commodore was not significantly slower. The race care passed the Torana like it was standing still. Must be noted both Commodores had 6 speeds though.
@adamlee9071
@adamlee9071 3 жыл бұрын
30 seconds is significantly slower
@namewithheldbygoogleforsec673
@namewithheldbygoogleforsec673 3 жыл бұрын
Would have been great to see who would win if the two commies had not been allowed to go higher than 4th speed though. 🙂
@colinwhiston5027
@colinwhiston5027 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamlee9071 where is 30 seconds from? Cam started with a 10 second lead over PB. PB never caught him. He did make up time but really had only just rounded the bend as Cam was approaching the finish line. So my point stands, the '79 Torana race car was not significantly quicker than the 2004 road car.
@adamlee9071
@adamlee9071 3 жыл бұрын
@@colinwhiston5027 the A9X had short diff ratios in it from a meet at eastern creek,if it had the tall ratio's in it that was originally used it would have ate it,Brock was backing off down conrod so he didn't blow it,and yeah it was 30 seconds
@kylewolf399
@kylewolf399 3 жыл бұрын
Peter Brocks the king of Australian racing rest in peace
@vladgala117
@vladgala117 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian. Couldn't agree more with your well deserved positive comments. I reckon you would love to check the very first in car race footage, apparently ever. It was at Bathurst. Should find it under Peter Williamson's rece cam Bathurst footage. He was in class c for cars with under 2 litre motors, yet in the same race as the big v8s.There were actually 3 classes He completely wrung the little Toyota Celica's neck and gave the most amazing comentary. It absolutely put you right in the driver's seat. If you love this, only a few years later, due to its success they started putting in to the top cars, in two of the top drivers- Bob Morris and George Fury's cars. They both swore on live T.V. During the Bathurst race, and it was quite funny listening to the shock in the voice of the studio commentators pretending that it didn't happen. The TV station could have been in a world of crap. Keep up the brilliant form bro!
@chrisrumble2665
@chrisrumble2665 3 жыл бұрын
Did you hear Crompton say there were only 33 racing A9X's built? Back in the 80's I was offered one that had been converted to a road car for $25k. Why don't I still own it? As soon as I said "yep, I'll buy it" the guy realised what he was about to do and changed his mind...BTW for those playing ar home you can spot a race one by the lack of the chrome window surround and the big square transmission tunnel to clear the T-10 transmission.
@BradGryphonn
@BradGryphonn 3 жыл бұрын
Trivia: I live in an old 60s/70s Bedford bus that has a 308 Holden motor. It originally had a straight-six diesel, but back in the late 80s, the owners swapped it out. It even has extractors.
@joeykleibo691
@joeykleibo691 3 жыл бұрын
The GTS Monaro was street registered and was driven from Sydney Australia to the event. My father used to drive it home from work on weekends and drop me at school on mondays, I was the coolest kid a school in those days.....
@australiantruckspotting8883
@australiantruckspotting8883 3 жыл бұрын
Did my driving lessons in my Mum’s LJ Torana. It had a 202ci straight six and trimatic auto. Purple with a white interior. Went pretty well actually.
@ReaverStudios
@ReaverStudios 3 жыл бұрын
One of my mates is lucky enough to be a camera operator here at Bathurst during some of the events! I would love the opportunity to do that haha. Great reaction as usual brother
@rohanmoran5849
@rohanmoran5849 3 жыл бұрын
It's such a pity they didn't run the 2.6 Diff ratio in Brocks A9X like they did in 79, I think they were running a 3.36 or 3.08 on this day, it still wouldn't have won, but it would have been a hell of a lot harder to pass down Conrod and wouldve eaten the SS.
@joeykleibo691
@joeykleibo691 3 жыл бұрын
And also the Bathurst HT GTS Monaro 1969. My father was the head mechanic for a team in that race,the car didn't win,it blew a gearbox 3 hours from the finish but was in a strong position at the time. It was called the Hardy Ferodo 500 back in those days
@kw5732
@kw5732 3 жыл бұрын
The A9X literally looks like a cigarette packet.I loved that car I understand why they banned the tobacco sponsorship..but it definitely hurt motorsport.
@reefsurfing3273
@reefsurfing3273 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate loving the videos 👏👍❣️🇦🇺
@brodiegriffin_is_Ozzy
@brodiegriffin_is_Ozzy 3 жыл бұрын
Peter Brock was a great talker whilst driving , he did it a lot / the TV guys crossed to him alot as he was good with it ......... running commentary on his laps/s , what he does to drive ( pedals , gears etc... ) to a chat about the weather , tell a joke or just say G'day ..... during actual races , not practice or qualifying . They don't talk as much now during a race as he did . My Dad worked for Mobil & I was lucky enough to have had a few photo ops & autographs etc... with him as a kid as he made appearances at the companies Christmas parties .
@gavindowell8239
@gavindowell8239 3 жыл бұрын
Top gear Australia had an episode of Dick Johnson driving the A9X a few years after Peter passed away.
@streetguru3054
@streetguru3054 3 жыл бұрын
The Torana actually finish 2nd remembering it gave the VZ SS a big head start and that SS is one model newer then that VY race car as for the VZ SS ive got one in a ute
@PJZombie
@PJZombie 3 жыл бұрын
It was a truly wonderful period to be alive, in every way! The old Supercars were simply amazing and beautiful to watch scream around the Track and yet somehow they were graceful at the same time! Those Cars felt alive!! Peter Brock, Dick Johnson, Mark Skaife, Allan Moffat and all the others were every bit as fun to watch as the Cars they drove! There was rivalry, It was a challenge and the Drivers and their machines entertained us every race! And last but not least.... That Track.... No track anywhere has the legendary status of Mount Panorama! Bathurst. A complete package in time.
@jemxs
@jemxs 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha when you said the street car commodore had 30 years on the Torana, I thought the driver (McConville) had 30 years on Brocky as well 😂
@trustfire
@trustfire 3 жыл бұрын
I learnt to drive in an SLR5000 Torana 4 speed manual. They are so expensive now, I realise how lucky I was to be able to experience a car like that.
@joeykleibo691
@joeykleibo691 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, if you love the A9X Torana search the XU1 Torana which was Peter Brocks first win at Bathurst in 1972, a straight 6 cylinder triple carburetor. I remember my uncle had one,I was 10 years old and he used to take me for driver and really push it. One of my fav child hood memories.
@huskypilot6305
@huskypilot6305 3 жыл бұрын
I was born a Ford fan but I do love Toranas. RIP Brockie, you will live forever in memories
@lyndonbushnell8080
@lyndonbushnell8080 2 жыл бұрын
The LX SS Torana's handled so well on the road, i remember hearing on the radio when Peter Brock died & i felt numb hearing it as he was a great down to earth guy to talk to. I remember talking to Peter in Launceston Tasmania for about a half hour, Peter was showing off the Strike me pink LJ Torana he & his son were driving in the Targa race.
@runawaylady1833
@runawaylady1833 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, the Torana was my first car, sigh. Have you been told yet, that Brock brought out his own special line of commodores? Did you know he died doing what he loved, in the same week that Steve Irwin died doing what he loved? Two Aussie icons down.
@steveskrobot9496
@steveskrobot9496 3 жыл бұрын
I like the time trial they do at the Australian Formula 1 GP. The F1 car, the V8 Supercar, & the pace car!
@rohanmoran5849
@rohanmoran5849 3 жыл бұрын
Brocky physically watching the Tacho all the way down Conrod so he didn't over rev the 308, I would have loved to see this re done with the 2.6 diff that it ran in 79, that would be a lot closer to the A9X that one by six laps and broke the lap record on the last.
@KaiHarper89
@KaiHarper89 3 жыл бұрын
Not to take anything away from the old guard - they're legends for a reason, after all - but I don't think that the current and recent past slew of drivers don't have what it takes to be that loved. They simply haven't had the time to get that prestige. The last few years, it's been much more about driver skill since everyone's on the same hardware, and some of the margins between them have been awfully close. The guys out on track know how to drive, and know how to drive pretty damn well. I mean, you haven't looked at a lot of Skaife, much Murphy, any Bowe, Lowndes, Whincup, McLaughlin, Winterbottom, Mostert, van Gisbergen...there are a lot of names that you haven't been nudged towards, and some legends in the making in that list. I'd say check Bowe, Murph, and Skaife first from that list first, but Lowndes is probably the most universally loved of the lot.
@blackgi
@blackgi 3 жыл бұрын
Dick Johnson drives Peter Brocks A9X Torana around Bathurst. warning! brings onion cutting ninja's.
@truthseeker7322
@truthseeker7322 3 жыл бұрын
I don't care what place the tori came. It's the most beautiful well designed car of Australia. I love the tori's
@Jackarooooo
@Jackarooooo 3 жыл бұрын
what was amazing is whenever they talked to brock as he was racing, he always talked so casual, like he wasn't even racing xD
@frankiesultana3743
@frankiesultana3743 3 жыл бұрын
We aussies love our Holden
@memoto5944
@memoto5944 3 жыл бұрын
in the early 2000s I paid to take a few laps driving a VY(i think) commodore supercar around Calderpark park track and it really behaves nothing like a road car. The instructor said to press the brake hard as you can, that it doesnt lock up and then youre back on the gas out of the corner. It is super fast and fun as hell. I love the torana but man those supercars are something else, even the fuel smells different.
@greyjamz6626
@greyjamz6626 3 жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm for Bathurst made me want to check out some more recent races because I haven’t watched it since I was a kid. Tell you what I couldn’t regognize it. It was like an international race with Australia providing the track. I suppose this is what happens when a country kills its car manufacturing
@huntsman9388
@huntsman9388 3 жыл бұрын
I live close to Bathurst it’s always a great day up on the hill
@TheMetal750
@TheMetal750 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers legend another cool video, much love from Australia brother
@berranari1
@berranari1 3 жыл бұрын
Alan Grice was the most loyal Holden driver. He was a competitive racer too. When I was growing up I was a Holden person, 'cause of Peter Brock. Luckily for me my mum had a 1969 Holden Monaro. Now I don't go for Holden over Ford, but I still follow motorsport. Anyway I got to respect Grice for his loyalty in the 1990s, also his moustache in the '70's.
@cg401
@cg401 3 жыл бұрын
look up some of craig lowndes drives, he won Bathurst 7 times one win he started last on the grid, he was not only an amazing driver but also the nicest bloke you would see, he learnt so much from brock and was also given brocks 05 number in a Bathurst race to honour brocky
@aussietaipan8700
@aussietaipan8700 3 жыл бұрын
5L Torana vs 5.7L Commodore vs 5L Super car. Results in my mind in that order. A9X legend. I still feel the pain 40 years on.
@headspace9447
@headspace9447 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair the other 2 divers were current drivers at the time and Brock was just out having fun, if it were to be possible to have all drivers at there peak then it may have been a different outcome?
@Lemon83166
@Lemon83166 3 жыл бұрын
No. Lmfao. 4 speed Torana is never going to outrun a modern v8 Supercar. However if Peter was in a V8 Suoercar vs Skaife it would be a good match
@rorirocks6663
@rorirocks6663 3 жыл бұрын
I got a white 2003 VY SS series 1 5.7 with a T56 manual with all options (leather interior, sunroof etc) It's bone stock but won't be for long, already got a twin 2.5 xforce exhaust and pacemaker extractors to install Having that said I'd get a old HQ GTS 350 Monaro
@mark_22222
@mark_22222 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos brother. Keep them coming!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍😁
@tripplegracing8276
@tripplegracing8276 3 жыл бұрын
Peter Brock the Legend, and Mark Skaife!!! , Warm regards from Port Elizabeth, South Africa!!
@magiclapras
@magiclapras 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, I'd take the classic Torana over the other 2 any day of the week. All 3 are great cars though. Supercars may have become faster over the years, but it was early 2000's era and earlier where they looked the most like road cars.
@skullandcrossbones65
@skullandcrossbones65 2 жыл бұрын
G'day. Peter Brock was last to cross the finish line in one of the Bathurst races. His car had to have repairs during the race. He got back in and continued racing knowing that he would be last rather than get a DNF.
@thomasthompson8288
@thomasthompson8288 3 жыл бұрын
Throw the same horsepower into the Torana and a different story. Their small, light and handle well.
@reddog5378
@reddog5378 3 жыл бұрын
I had an LC Torana 2 door, 173 I think for my first car in 1986 and my dad owned a 4 door dark metallic green A9X and a yellow LX SLR5000 both bought new in 1977. What I would give to have my old LC back in my garage.
@MrTechTime
@MrTechTime 3 жыл бұрын
Always watched the king, only a few hours drive to Bathurst for me, also owned the Legendary LJ Torana GTR when i was a young bloke, cant get Peter back , and cant get my Torana back - Bathurst is the the number 1 feature race in the world IMO - Awesome watch an American appreciate it also, on ya mate !
@brianmclean3458
@brianmclean3458 3 жыл бұрын
I actually spoke to Brocky about 2 months after that event and he said to me it was an unprepared race car and had the wrong diff ratio in it and would have gone faster than it did. He was a little disappointed but extremely happy to be back in driving as it needed to be.
@redoz9768
@redoz9768 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this one Ian it's always been a favorite of mine. You should check out the 2 part TV movie about Brock. A little bit embellished like all movies, but lots of cool driving scenes and it will really teach you about how Brock came to be, and Aussie culture during the 70s and 80s. I'm pretty sure a reaction video would do really well for you. Part 1- kzbin.info/www/bejne/enLKpZh3ebernNk Part 2 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mma2hXaClrSsrtE
@jamessaunders7554
@jamessaunders7554 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man. Greetings from Melbourne Australia
@Jason8314
@Jason8314 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian .. Love my VYSS she's only a Stocker, with a Minor exhaust Mod ... Great Car Cheers from Downunder
@raymondbabb1970
@raymondbabb1970 3 жыл бұрын
Check out Jensen Button's lap of Bathurst in his McLaren F1. Fast
@forensic5977
@forensic5977 3 жыл бұрын
I can say the time of big Ford Falcon Coupes, Holden Toranas, Chrysler Chargers, Valiants, Mustangs, Camaros etc was by far the best to watch. While not as fast as today’s category they were far more entertaining and more realistic to typical showroom cars. Today’s drivers are polished, managed and media savvy, almost like the Supercars themselves 😜 so good luck to anyone in love with the current series as unfortunately there will never be an era like before.
@hughwelsh201
@hughwelsh201 3 жыл бұрын
A SLR5000 Torana is also a winner, and I would say yes to. The replacement, the Sunbird, was a total wheezer.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 3 жыл бұрын
Top speed Conrad straight 03 VY SS 6 Speed 250 km hr / 1979 Torana 4 speed 260km hr / 290 km hr 6 speed v8 supercar
@grahamejohn6847
@grahamejohn6847 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian to me the Toranas ( or trolleys as they were nicknamed ) are the nostalgia specials and I think a lot of the older drivers had more showmanship about them. Still, I love motorsport and it doesn't matter which era it comes from.
@nicholasturner5159
@nicholasturner5159 3 жыл бұрын
I had 2003 holden vy 5 speed manual 3.8L ecotec v6 ute but gave it to my dad when I got my tb48 gu nissan patrol wagon
@lesklower7281
@lesklower7281 2 жыл бұрын
When l saw this demostration lap l was surprised of the result l knew the super car would come first but a car built for the road pass the full race prepared A9X Torana l suppose the Torana was totally analog thats what l like about it and it looks very nice
@headspace9447
@headspace9447 3 жыл бұрын
Torana every day of the week!
@RoverIAC
@RoverIAC 3 жыл бұрын
if you take the staggered start into account the Torana came second and the Super Car kicked arse. Please do Holden Monaro
@theghost6412
@theghost6412 3 жыл бұрын
You should check out the video of Dick Johnson driving Peter Brocks Torana. Dick was always a Ford person, he drove the bright green old XE Ford you have seen a couple times, and got to do a few laps with his old nemesis’s car. The whole while he talks to the camera as he drives the car for the first time and gets to experience it. He tells the tale of the freindly competition between them. In ‘83 Dick smashed his bright green car on the mountain into the trees one race (I think you have seen those photos in another video) and Peter stopped to pick him up and drive him back to the pits mid race.
@chrisbutton9974
@chrisbutton9974 3 жыл бұрын
My mum has that exact SS Commodore. LS1 manual. Worth a mint now but yes I'd take the Torana
@gruntabro1
@gruntabro1 3 жыл бұрын
That A9x was a proper race car version of the Holden SS Torana
@JohnLee-mq4hk
@JohnLee-mq4hk 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that Peter Brock use to race rally cross In an modified 6cyl Torana at Calder Park in the early seventies.
@Shilo-fc3xm
@Shilo-fc3xm 3 жыл бұрын
Torana. Always loved them. I remember when Torana's were everywhere. Should have bought ten or fifteen of them and stuck them in a shed somewhere. Lol.
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