American reacts to 'Worlds Largest Fuel Truck' in Australia

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[@daviddell7780]

I'm a Oversize Pilot in WA (OSOM Pilot Over Size Over Mass) Just wanted to make a comment regards wheels and tyres Ryan and viewers. To start some have commented about 68 wheels. In fact this set up has 170 wheels and tyres to look after. Each axle (we call them lines) has in fact two sets of four wheels each side. So you have 8 wheels and tyres on each axle all bar the two front steer wheels on the prime mover. This number of wheels is to distribute the weight better, not so much because of individual weight on each axle but because of heat. At one point in the video you saw the driver for a few seconds walking down the side of the train with a bar. That's an iron bar and he is hitting the wheels with it. He is listening out for a change in the tone of the tyre, just like 'Wheel Tappers' on trains listening for fractures in the all metal train wheels. If a tyre is low in pressure due to an air leak or small fracture its of course dangerous. Increased heat will build up in the tyre and she will blow, micro seconds later sections of tyre will come away, sometimes a complete ring of tyre tread come off because of it delaminating from the man tyre structure. The pressure in those tyres would be around 110psi on each of the trailer wheels and 75psi on the steer tyres. With the added tonnage on the tyres, when you even lightly tap them with your fingers they produce a wobble noise, that tap sounds out 'all around' the tyre and the tyres feels like jelly, its very very unnerving because you get a strong sense of the pressures involved. You have that base tyre pressure then you have the weight pressure added, then you have extreme heat on the tyre rubber and the air within the tyre! When a tyre goes i.e. blows you better not be in front of it, it can literally kill you. The explosive sound is very loud like a large gun going off. Depending how it blows sections of tyre rubber will be blown out with the blast of air. In WA the biggest issue with tyres is not wear that's handled by regular checks...its heat. Typical temperatures mid summer are between 36 and 40c on hot days the temperature is up around 45 to 50c and remember those are in the shade temperatures! You can imagine the temperature of the road surface with that direct sun burning away all day on the bitumen. The over size loads I pilot have a greater problem than the fuel road train you see in this video, because the trailers or floats have more wheels typically and are a smaller diameter thus increasing the revolutions in same distance. This increases the heat on the tyre even more. Some journeys we can pop three or four tyres over say a 2000k trip. Our speeds come down from 80kph to 50kph to try and reduce the heat. Its no fun changing a truck tyre in 40 plus centigrade I can assure you. The tyre cost is horrendous also. Hope this has been of interest. Thanks.

[@LewisTheFly888]

Thankyou for taking the time to explain. I love learning stuff like this. I’m a medical doctor in Australia but after 40 years medicine mining copper now. Worked farms sawmills and commercial fishing as part of my education. Stood me in good stead. So learning stuff like this I just appreciate so much. Thanks again. As a kid growing up in WA it’s always good seeing the outback. I worked in port Hedland too.

[@philfehring9611]

Quote"has in fact two sets of four wheels each side." Fairly sure you are over quoting that brother. Surely they are duals each side per axle.4 per axle. Phil Fehring. Brother of Trevor Fehring Warta Driver of the year 2011. You did say there were 4 wheels each side. Appreciate that was probably a mistake. Its 4 per axle, not each side. Regards Phil.

[@philfehring9611]

"@daviddell7780In fact this set up has 170 wheels and tyres to look after." [Close quote]I make it to be 64. Steer is 1x2 (2) Tripple drive 3 x 4 per axle. (12) A,B.C, D trailers or bogies. Triple axle trailers x 3 axles x 4 tyres per axle / line. 4 x 3 x 4 = 48. I count 62 tyres. Long way from 170 brother. Lets not blow too much smoke up our own arse here. Its not a low loader float. There's a reason it has a 170 tonne tare over 4 trailers and prime mover. Regards.

[@kadmow]

@@philfehring9611 - (he may be confounding a regular truck/ trailer axle for what he sees on the heavy floats/low loaders), they have 8 wheels per axle...) -1a triaxle set has 12 wheels/tyres, I see 7 tri sets and the steers, 86 wheel/tyres . 20 tonnes per tri, 6 tonnes on steers if running wide super singles. - regular weights this config can weigh up to 146 tonnes without special permits..... (I'm sure everything can be "permitted" to be legally over weight...

[@johncunningham4820]

@@kadmow. Actually the Tri-axle groups are probably " Permitted " at 25 tonne and the Steer @6.5 tonne .

[@minwade5436]

Australian truck drivers carry our country, they work hard long hours & need decent pay. Salt of the earth truckies are worth their weight in gold. Ty for sharing Ryan. Cheers. Best wishes from Adelaide; South Australia🦘🐨🇦🇺💐

[@SueNicholls-95]

Couldn't agree more. 👍👍❤️

[@LewisTheFly888]

Absolutely.

[@CRAIGKMSBISMARCKTIRPITZ533]

Trucks Only Get Paid By The Milage,KMS. More They Have The More They Get Paid

[@Dasyurid]

They’re a lot of fun to have to overtake, I can tell you that. Luckily the drivers are absolute legends and will often give you a little heads up with the indicators to let you know there’s a clear stretch of road and they’re happy to help you pass safely.

[@jenniferharrison8915]

Our Australian truckies are superhumans, we wouldn't survive without them! You didn't note the front Roo protection guard! We also have trucks carrying just spare tyres! 🙋💯

[@aileenbell2248]

My youngest son drives triples up through NT and Western Australia.. he’s only 34 years old, I’m very proud of him. But it’s a beautiful country up there. 😊

[@paulbell4062]

Sweet

[@chich61]

My son drove triples as well to the mines in South Australia. He'd had enough after 10 yrs of driving them and got out. He's now the project manager for the same company he drove for and he's only 34. I'm so proud of him. ❤

[@CeciliaCameron-df9he]

My late husband did road trains from Queensland to Darwin.

[@paulbell4062]

@@chich61 I would be too sounds like you are a good parent cheers 🍻 👏

[@suesue5142]

My nephew who is autistic has been driving trucks since he got his learners with his dad. He had his hours completed by the first few weeks of getting his learners. Unfortunately no school could handle or understand him so he never finished school but now runs along side his father a transport business and has done interstate trips when his drivers refuse to. He can drive a track better than most people. He is proof that when others give up on you never give up on yourself.

[@jamesf333]

One of my older workmates years ago told us ( he was a heavy vehical operator between Adelaide and Darwin ) that there used to be a sign at the start of the Darwin area that read, ‘no roadtrains over 570 feet’. He had a friend that was helping out a mate that broke down, ended up pulling 9 trailers into Darwin. Shout out to Johnnie, one of the genuine operators.

[@hardyakka6200]

Australians could tell other Australian in a crowded street just by the way they stand.

[@stewartmckay9830]

That's why you never pull up hard in front of them. One of the drivers said if you do you're dead. They only allow them once they get out past where I live. The really busy parts they don't let them drive around

[@michellebrewer6302]

my brother has driven a B-triple from Adelaide to Perth every week & back for several decades, leaves on Saturday & back on Thursday, he loves it & would never do anything else

[@notyermonkey2134]

My Great Granma is to drive Bulls fulla Shit over the Southern Alps NZ.

[@MelodyMan69]

Metric tonne is 1,000 kgs = 2,205 US pounds. 🇦🇺 He is driving at 80 km/hr or 50 MPH when fully loaded.

[@Valbarca]

Well they SAY 80km/hr.. I've deff seen them doing 100km/hr this is.. not ideal if you need to overtake them :/

[@leglessinoz]

The US uses short tons of 2000 lbs. We used to use Imperial tons or long tons of 2240 lbs.

[@Merrid67play]

He said 85km/h at one point

[@ricklorimer9984]

2205 pounds x 170 tons. 374,850 pounds.

[@666Buzzsaw]

@@Valbarcadifferent combinations have different limits. Some are restricted to 80 or 90 like this one and some are legal for 100.

[@norsehall309]

G'day Ryan, l had too overtake that same type of road train on my 1000cc Honda l started at 60mph and by the time l made the front l was doing 110 mph just to beat the oncoming traffic, bloody frightening, cheers mate great video, Neil 🤠.

[@pippacarron1861]

Yup, done that on my Harley, but that was 1800cc underneath me!

[@DAVEG-t4t]

Takes about a 1km to overtake a road train

[@pippacarron1861]

@@DAVEG-t4t Not on a Harley=Davidson!

[@vinsgraphics]

Grew up in Gwalia, near Leonora, during the 1970s. Nickel mines opened up at Leinster to the north and Laverton, east. The rail line ended at Leonora, so a terminal was built to accept nickel ore from both points by road train. The truck was a White Road Boss pulling three trailers, 62 wheels. Top speed empty (dirt roads back then) was 40-50mph, loaded he was stretched at 25mph. I got to ride along and occasionally steer (empty), pretty neat experience as a kid. For flat tires, the trailers had hydraulic jacks to lift themselves, with air tools, made life a bit easier for Slim, the driver. There’s no reversing these things, there’s big loops to circle around each end. The terminal was operated by only two guys, Slim the driver and Barry the mechanic/supervisor. Barry was a bit of a prick, ran over our dog. His kids were brats too. Slim was single, probably kept Coca-Cola in business on his own, died a diabetic years later.

[@judithstrachan9399]

Leonora in the 70’s? You’d remember Poseidon, or at least heard about it as a kid.

[@vinsgraphics]

@@judithstrachan9399 Yes, Dad and I explored the old workings.

[@malcolmbaulch272]

Hi there am an Australian driver...A metric tonne is around 2200 pound compared to a true standard imperial tonne of 2240 pounds... 85 kilometres per hour road speed is around 53 miles per hour ... 1400 kilometres trip is around 900 miles

[@KelpieDog]

Mate, you get yourself over here andd see it for yourself. Plenty of people will show you around the cities if that's your thing or come out to my area, sheep country, I'll give you a tour of a sheep station. In these parts we grow the best Merino wool on the planet. :)

[@shazza160]

Hear this Ryan, get a ticket to Perth. Forget the Eastern States.

[@QUIX4U]

At a healthy rate of about ten acres per sheep. The country is that short of water - it takes a lot to feed a sheep, so yeah I'd say about ten acres to the sheep would be about what your "sheep stations" would be running, which is partly why they are so big, the other part being, that no "farm" smaller than about 10,000 acres is viable.

[@Prsboy78]

The record for the longest road train is 1,474.3 m (4,836 ft 11 in) where a single Mack Titan prime mover, driven by John Atkinson (Australia), towed 113 trailers at a promotional event for Hog's Breath cafe.

[@niloc1414]

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[@judithstrachan9399]

WOW!

[@judithstrachan9399]

We used to go to Hoggies. Too far away since we moved.

[@leonardgmiller8924]

Got pictures of that somewhere by the time the last trailer started to move he could actually stop as he had broken the record lol bloody long truck a real road train

[@DarkMatter1992]

8:32 he means the thing understeers easily, so back off the power when coming up to a turn.

[@Masque54]

Ryan? 5:48 No comment about Garth driving the truck in his socks?? 😆😆

[@jackbarrie6007]

In the 70s it was always thongs or bare feet

[@kevo6190]

It looks like the 90's but that is probably Geraldton 2023🤣

[@ACDZ123]

I was in Geraldton recently for the first time in 20 years. It's got some nice suburbs a bit further out of town. Definitely worth looking at if your sick of the rat race in Perth

[@bluedog1052]

lol

[@belindaweber7999]

😂

[@Nalianna]

I heard they're getting electricity any day soon.

[@Nalianna]

@@ACDZ123 "Rat race in perth"? lol ol it gets better.

[@josiequintela7238]

My brother in law is a Truckie & he’s amazing!!! He drives semi’s to NSW & back.

[@raybear508]

You posted this 2 weeks ago, but the video is from the 80s/90s. Today, I drive a side tipper that is longer(60 metres) and heavier (210T fully loaded) on those same roads, carting iron ore from Wiluna to gerald.

[@gavindavis1693]

A fuel truck working out of Perth Western Australia has the following axles. twin steer- tri drive-quad on the trailer, then quad and quad on the second trailer. possible a 120-ton gross with permit load.

[@michaelkolopelnyk4405]

The calculation is multiple 1 mile by 1.6 . That's the conversion. App. 5 years of training. Mike from Australia

[@1970GenXer]

Through the 80's into the early 90's my Father drove Tankers for Bill Bunt in North Queensland. He did all the rural Properties. The only trip my Husband went with him, my Husband come back looking whites as a ghost, my Father had a ball. They had to come back over rangers on dirt roads, in torrential rain, and the brakes on the dog trailer had gone. All you need is a Dangerous Goods License.

[@captainsalty56]

A blast from the past. Worked for BP for 25 years. Started out managing fuel distribution throughout Western Australia (WA) and visited Geraldton on many occasions. Went overseas for a couple of decades and when I finished I returned to WA and went back to where I started but as General Manager for the state (By this time Mitchells and all the other distributors had been merged into one big company). Used to get up to Geraldton once a month to meet with staff and enjoy a BBQ in the workshop. Great team.

[@greghunter4383]

From memory this setup gets about 800 metres per litre when loaded.

[@exidy2290]

Used to work in Newman back in the 70s, saw lots of huge loads on those highways even back then.

[@pippacarron1861]

I love the fact that you teach us Aussies about aspects of Australia we don't even know about. Oh yes, they're fun to pass. Best on a big motorbike at 160 kph!

[@nedkelly9688]

do it in a v8 car at 200kmh lol...

[@35manning]

He was talking about the power divider and it's affects on steering. In a vehicle during a turn, all the wheels need to spin at slightly different speeds. This is most commonly done using an open differential. The problem is, all of the engine power will go to the one wheel with the least amount of resistance to spinning. If you jack up one drive wheel on your standard 2WD car, then put it into drive and accelerate, you just won't move, the wheel lifted off the ground will just spin. A limited slip differential allows for some wheel slip, but will still force power to the wheel that still has higher resistance and a locked differential will force both wheels to spin at exactly the same speed. A locked differential therefore gives you the best traction to drive forwards, BUT to turn a corner one wheel must slip or drag across the ground, making it harder to turn a sharp corner. So far I have discussed the left and right wheels on a single driven axle. But when you have multiple driven axles, the same principles apply. An all wheel drive car (full time, as opposed to a part time four wheel drive) center differential is just a simple locking differential much like what you might find in an axle. It normally allows power to freely move from the front driveshaft to the rear driveshaft, which ever has the least resistance. Until you lock it, when it then makes the front and rear driveshaft spin at the same speed. During a turn, the front drive shaft needs to spin at a different speed (the front wheels combined travel a longer distance then the rear wheels do). Meaning locking the driveshafts together forces one of wheels with the least amount of resistance to drag and slip over the road, making it harder to turn. If you combine a front differential lock, rear differential lock and centre differential lock, then every wheel must turn at the same speed and you may be physically unable to actually turn at all. Now, all that relates to a car with two drive axles. This truck however has three drive axles. The drive shaft comes from the engine into a special differential where it splits to another drive shaft and a second differential. The second differential is in the axle and connects to the front drive wheels, whilst the second drive shaft connects to another special differential which does the same thing. The last drive shaft connects directly to the rear drive axle. So, from the engine and gear box, you have essentially five differentials driving six pairs of wheels (three axles, left and right). If all those differentials are open, then only a single pair of wheels is actually powering the truck forward. This is where those two special differentials, called power dividers, come into play. They can lock up and force all three drive shafts to spin at the same speed. This forces each axle to power one pair of wheels, giving the truck three pairs of wheels applying power to the ground. There is one step further, each of those three axle differentials may be able to be locked as well. This would force all six of the pairs of wheels to spin at the same speed. But it hurts your ability to turn. Now, to make matters worse, the trailer attaches ABOVE the axles, so when you apply power the weight of the trailer pulls backwards on the truck and attempts to lift the steer axle off the ground. In some situations, this can actually happen, but mostly it just removes weight on the steer wheels which reduces your ability to turn even more. Approaching a turn with a little bit of speed and applying ONLY truck brakes would increase the weight on the steer wheels this increasing their ability to turn, but the trucks can only apply trailer brakes or ALL the brakes, plus coming into a corner fast in a road train isn't a good idea. So, you need to use the least amount of power to drive forwards during the turn, and once the truck is steering straight and can apply the power. If you need more too much power to also turn, you just have to drive straight as far as you can. You can then reverse back whilst turning, drive straight again etc.

[@logic.and.reasoning]

Wtf was that novel about? Lmfao

[@Lyn-um9yi]

I liked his explanation. Thank you!

[@35manning]

@@Lyn-um9yi his? Her! But thank you. Vehicles and the systems they use are incredibly complex, yet so many people don't have the slightest understanding. For the most part, basic driving around doesn't require such an understanding. It's the advanced driver who is pushing their vehicle to the limit that starts to learn about such things. Whilst I make no claim of being a great driver, I do consider myself an advanced driver that looks to find the limits (in legal ways that don't pose a risk of harm to others). And I like imparting my knowledge on others, either indirectly through forums such as this or directly by instructing drivers (not professionally). I hope that the somewhat long winded explanation gave you an understanding of of the basic concepts before building upon that to the issue of turning. There are more forces in play, particularly for smaller vehicles that tend to navigate corners faster that affect steering, but I won't want to overwhelm especially when it's not relevant to a road train.

[@nedkelly9688]

@@35manning lol i drive drag cars on the streets with locked diffs. fun around corners or trying to park. allow bit more room when parking or turning tight as slips and pushes you a bit. Cops try fining me as i turn at intersections and wheels will chirp from the locked diff. Can always tell, when someone has one even if do not chirp can hear the tyre shuffling. Yea your novel was good for those who have no clue on the different diffs in cars and 3x4 and trucks. Guy who said you wrote a novel sounds like you confused him early on lol...

[@35manning]

@@nedkelly9688 I used to ride a 2WD quad bike around an airport, throwing its weight around to lift a rear wheel for easier turning, even if I wasn't trying to ride on two wheels (which I would NEVER do especially without a helmet on...). I also drive a GQ Patrol with its legendary LSD, so I'm quite familiar with the sudden reduction of steering and increase of squealing when I put my foot down a little too much. I also ran my old 4x4 Rodeo in 4x4 on wet roads when taking corners. It had a really light back end that wanted to spin out. But I'd have to take it out of 4x4 after the corner or I'd get drive line wind up (multiple turns in the same direction would wind up the drive lines like a clockwork spring). In that case, you could actually get to a state where the car wouldn't want to drive at all. It was a funny situation where there was not enough traction on the road to handle some throttle in 2wd, but too much traction to fully handle 4wd.

[@ianmcelhinney1530]

I love that he's driving in his socks 🧦 🇦🇺

[@bluedog1052]

Yanks = don't mess with an 18 wheeler. Mitchell Fuels = hold my beer lol

[@wendygroves8296]

My son in law is a truckie big part of his job is to transport massive cranes/lifters etc to big industrial construction sites/train derailments overturned trucks blocking road/bridge demolition that stuff. Thats hauling a heavy load..🇦🇺

[@TracyFromAus]

Break checking is not legal in Oz. In QLD you can be fined as a careless driver or something if you break check. Fines are pretty hefty

[@martinvandermeer9674]

I'm now seventy a few years back I upgraded my heavy vehicle licence to a multi combination so I was legally able to operate a b double and bigger so to get to operate one of these monsters is just opertunity and assesment by the owners of these expensive machines 🙂

[@michaelkolopelnyk4405]

Those rucks are speed limited at 100kph. That's 60 miles ph. Mike from Australia 🇦🇺

[@privatenexus5764]

1:25 because they are wearing shorts at work. And the thick aussie accent of the commentator makes it easy.

[@notyermonkey2134]

"Faark'nsheet! I just turned down the wrong Bloody Road Mite! ...now gonna hafta back 'er out !"

[@trevorcook3129]

Geraldton to Wiluna is 718km (446 miles) and 85km an hour is 52 mph

[@xymonau2468]

Yes, we are fully aware of that oil spill. It was shocking. 1400K means kilometres.

[@brucemckenna7035]

Interesting when he was changing gears he was in his socks only! Must get pretty warm in that truck.

[@michaelcauser474]

Driving those distances the comfort is the requirement. So many interstate semi/B-double drivers wear thongs (flip flops) for comfort. Better than industrial boots when you are driving.

[@That_is_for_me_to_know]

ANFO is the typical explosive used in the mining industry. Ammonia Nitrate Fuel Oil (diesel) = ANFO

[@justjj4319]

That BP oil Spill in the gulf of Mexico was a big deal EVERYwhere ... here in Australia it helped our fight against allowing drilling in the Great Australia Bight.

[@competitionglen]

And Exxon Valdez in Alaska, we hear about most disasters.

[@Rubytuesday1569]

Well said. 🇦🇺

[@antontsau]

fight more, and our fuel prices will be $5/L!

[@jimmydcricket5893]

It'll still happen, just a matter of time.

[@andrewmickan3917]

Need more drilling and refinery in Australia not less

[@The_Aussie_Truckie]

I drive road trains all over Australia and to get a licence to drive road trains in Australia its just a computer test and a 2 day driving course like all truck licences. 170 ton is 375 thousand pounds and 53 metres is 173 feet now all trucks are speed limited to 100kph and road trains are speed limited to 90kph

[@Merrid67play]

But you need to have held a class C licence for at least two years first, don't you? Or are the rules different in WA?

[@nedkelly9688]

Americans need a huge course called a CDL Commercial Drivers License. think is weeks or months sitting in classes and driving trucks also.. sounds like takes a bit..

[@The_Aussie_Truckie]

@nedkelly9688 must shock you that we have the world's longest and heaviest trucks in the world and we can get the license to drive them within a weekend

[@The_Aussie_Truckie]

@Merrid67play hold a c class licence for one year then hold a heavy Rigid licence for a year and then you can get your MC licence to drive road trains

[@kadmow]

@@Merrid67play here ya go... "Eligibility requirements for obtaining an MC truck licence To be eligible for an MC truck licence, you must meet the following requirements: Hold a current Australian driver's licence. Be at least 18 years of age." (NSW - the license like all HEAVY Vehicle licences are National.)

[@stephenatkinson2333]

The truck would be longer than the size of some of the towns out that way.

[@lesflynn4455]

Wow. I'm middle aged, completely. I believe those beige cathode ray monitors on the lady's desk look to be from the very late 90s, 2000 at the latest. I can smell the dust cooking in them now.

[@ThomasEveans-iz8ju]

In regards to braking, all of the trailers, tankers, have air brakes

[@sallydrew1621]

That’s the (very) old BP logo, which dates the video to at least 25yrs ago. Hence the CRT computer monitors from the era.

[@mikldude9376]

What he was saying about not putting the boot into it in the bends ( pedal to the metal ) is because the being a tri drive on the prime mover , it tends to want to understeer or push straight ahead .

[@geoff2606]

There are trucks this long up north central Queensland hauling cattle and minerals. Try to over take them, I rather just sit behind them, even when the slow down for the hills, I just sit behind them. Because my old 4x4 is too slow to outrun them coming down the other side of the hills.

[@scottmurray247]

The narrator is Leonard Teale who passed away in 1994, so the video is older than 30years.

[@loopylou2584]

Love the truckie just driving in his socks 😂😂😂😂

[@leandabee]

😅yes, I noticed that too 👍

[@QUIX4U]

Ah but what don't they wear - in the extreme outback with "no cameras" around?

[@Malsher]

There's also the shit-ton, which is 24 metric assloads, or 1/10th of a fuck-ton.

[@johnblyth9787]

We have many classes of licences for trucks ranging from fixed body trucks, semi tailer, ( tractor and trailer. B double one and one half trailers , then Road Trains in many combinations. To get up to a road train most drivers will have worked up to a B double. To carry fuel i would think they would look for a good time doing general freight. These drivers are the cream of the crop. Some of the mining trucks are pulling up to 230 tons or more. Often they have quad axel sets. That is 16 wheels in a set. The prime mover is tri drive and a lot now have twin steer axels. Fuel useage at a guess would be 4 miles to the gallon, in that vacinity. No DO NOT break hard in front of one of these. On narrow roads in out back cars pull off to side and let the truck have the bitumin.

[@666Buzzsaw]

No to do fuel you just need to do a 2 day Dangerous Goods permit course and you’re good to go qualification wise.

[@siryogiwan]

top speed would vary, he said he was doing about 54Mph on a flat road, downhill would give you more and up less, all depending on the load it has, lighter the load, the higher top speed it could reach, these days I think all trucks here have speed limiting devices, think they are set to max speed of 100kph

[@evangiles4403]

They do it through practice, practice and practice

[@Smeeagain22]

If you like big trucks in Australia look up hha its heavy haulage Australia they have a 5 vid series i think it it hauling some big loads through some tight spots good watch

[@djukin1016]

Nowadays out of Geraldton they can run 60 metre length instead of the than 53.4 metres trucks.

[@DAVEG-t4t]

Same in Northern Territory

[@arjovenzia]

we had a suzuki LJ80, its a kei truck chassis, but a 1.3L little light 4x4. was a great offroader, could totally chop the heavy range rovers and land cruisers. It didnt know how to get bogged. just kinda floated over it all. and if it did get stuck, 2 stout blokes could kinda just pick it up out of the hole. try that in your land cruiser. where it got really dicey, and the relevance here, a Road Train had absolutely all the aerodynamic authority. this thing weighs total 700kg. you could technically over take a road train. but you never would. you could sit in its slipstream, probably turn the engine off and coast. encountering one going the other way however was an active battle. half of it wanted to throw you off the road, right over the ditch, the other half wanted to eat you under the tires. you've got the aerodynamics of a foam brick, vs a juggernaut granite missile. you wanna be awake for that part.

[@Ausecko1]

Just remember, where these road trains go there are only 1 lane highways and very rarely any overtaking lanes, so it's a real hassle trying to overtake them for long stretches. I didn't really think anything if it until visiting the USA for a road trip and seeing how multiple lane roads were basically the norm everywhere. (I've spent all my 40+ years in WA)

[@Mr-Damage]

K, Kay = kilometre 1 ton is 1000 kilograms That Kenworth will be speed limited to 100 Kph 100 Kph is 62.14 MPH 85 Kph highway speed = 52.8 MPH Cummins have excellent service and parts availability in Western and top end Australia so many operators chose Cummins as break down time is costly to everyone, Caterpillar are their main competitors however you have not been able to buy a new Kenworth with a caterpillar engine for 10 or 12 years now. Most states have a 90 Kph speed limit for roadtrains however the Northern Territory you are allowed to do 100 Kph as the lighter vehicles can do 130 Kph on certain highways. Happy to answer any questions related to Australian trucking.

[@CourtneyBairstow]

Old video. Mid to late 90s at least. Prime mover (tractor unit) was probably carrying around 2000L of diesel to keep the truck going, a rough guess for fuel burn would be 1 litre/km loaded around 2000km in fuel range. it may be slightly better in the flatter country. Even then pretty much all aussie trucks are speed governed to 100km/h. Its either an electronic governing system in the engines computer, or mechanically governed in the gearing of the truck (less common). Dont quote me, but i think those bigger combinations are speed limited to 90km/h. In terms of braking, they take a while to stop. If you had to stop in a hurry, it could take 500metres on flat ground from full speed. Every wheel (2 tyres to one wheel -dual) has its own brake like any other truck, they are surprisingly efficient at braking when compared to a car kg/kg of overall weight. What he was referring to with the tri drive (three axles driving/deleivering power to the road)- they do not like to turn. If under any amout of power whilst making a slow, sharp turn, the 3 drive axles well and truely overcome the steering force generated by the single steer axle, if you put your foot into it and try to turn, the traction and tourque delivered to the drive axles will push the steer tyres in a straight line. Less of a problem with a bogie drive (2 driving axles) due to less traction and length in drive train. On that, the drag created by all those tri groups on the trailers ( tri axles that obviously do not drive) mean that the slightest turn on mildly soft ground, (due to the sideways drag when a tri group starts to go sideways during a turn) would almost stop the truck dead (loss of driving traction). In order to turn around they need lots of room, and hard ground to maintain good traction under the 3 driving axles. Experience wise, technically you can get into an MC (multi combination) license by about the age of about 20 years old working your way through the license ladder. Which means your legal to drive that. Dangerous goods certification would require slightly more training. Saying that, wouldnt want to stick a freshy in those big combinations, experience does not come with a license. The more tyres you have on the ground, the more likely you are of a flat.

[@QUIX4U]

If I was "driving" anything as big as that, I would have INDEPENDENT braking "at the rear of the truck", controlled electronically by the steeering inclination, meaning that to "turn sharply" would thus be relatively easy to do as THAT SIDE's rear wheels would be heavily braked, while the opposite side drove normally, crabbing the steer axle around, (in the direction of the turn) as if the steer axle didn't need to be there. The same simple system was used by the original (pre-1953) Ferguson Tractors, utilising independent lever arms articulated off the rear axle brake rods, allowing the operator to "stomp" on the pedal to force the tractor to turn whenever the front wheels alone couldn't turn a machine with a plough behind, etc, which tried to force the tractor straight ahead. Thus one could control a smaller tractor's inability to turn (especially in muddy conditions) by applying a foot pedal operated brake lever, fitted with a tiny "foot pad", which rotated a camlock type function on the brake rod on that side only, thereby applying braking to the side that the operator wanted to turn towards. I used ours frequently, to do "handbrake" (footbrake actually) turns on the grassy paddocks on our farm. It was one of the late 1940's/early 1950's TEA Ferguson The same type that Sir Edmond Hillary took to the South Pole, using an extra axle underneath, as a crawler tractor, steering by using the brake levers each side, to reinforce the "direction" users needed for the steer wheels up front.

[@powerbuilder0510]

TL;DR Fast and straight ish, or slow/slowing down and changing directions... I think he said either its got diff locks for traction when needed or it was full time tripple rear diff drive. Either way because of how much weight is over the rear axle group coupled with the fact they always want to drive in a straight line turning is a bitch, so if you slow down (take your foot off the accelerator) or gently apply the brake all the weight shifts towards the front which also puts more weight on the steer tyres and makes it easier to change directions

[@vicbittertoo]

I'll translate some stats to imperial for the US crew; 86 tires, yes, quite a few tire changes, especially on dirt roads, 170 metric tons is 187.452 US tons, 53.5 metres is 58.5 yards or 175.5 feet these are speed limited to 100 kph which is 62 mph 85 kph is 52.8 mph, 1400 kilometres is 870 miles enjoy :)

[@JB-lx8cw]

Ryan the top speed was mentioned - 85 kilometres per hour (about 53 miles per hour).

[@MissMahnae]

Worked in Meekatharra and Wiluna Gold mine

[@mikldude9376]

He mentioned the cruising speed at 85 kilometres per hour which is about 52 miles per hour .

[@gamortie]

If you use the Bob & Doug McKenzie metric conversion method, you double a number and add 30 - a metric 6 pack is 42 beers….😂

[@logic.and.reasoning]

And an hour is at least 6 stubbies or 3 tallies.😊

[@davidcruse6589]

He said 180 ton and they were travelling at 85 klms hr at 1700 rpm which is low as you change gears at 1500 rpm What he was saying to get the truck to corner you need to take foot of throttle so tyres grip road Otherwise it pushed the truck straight a head and won't corner Its commonly know as the vechile is under steering where the front wont go where you want it to slips on surface of road Over steer is when the rear of vechile trying to over take the front causing you to spin out My guess why its under steering is 3 sets of rear wheels pushing the vechile under throttle so when you take throttle of thecrear no longer pushing the vechile and front wheels get more weight allowing the to roll and grip sirface of the road Because when you throttle the rear of truck sqatts causing the front wheels to raise up and losing grip with surface of the road It physics and how weight transferring from front axles to back by use of throttle Also they have anywhere between 4 to 6 tank on truck carrying fuel for it to burn and weighing approximately a tonne of fuel and what they ll burn on the trip Also when carrying liquid or anything moving in vechile like cattle makes it even more difficult As these items change the dynamics because you put foot on brakes it all rushes forward pushing the vechile Same turning corners the load will shift to that side so easy to roll vechile if to fast or not smoth in transition So the art is to be smooth no fast movement's on cornering or braking all has to be dont slow and smoothly He has to make the decision's and act alot earlier then vechiles with loads that are fixed and not moving around Hope this helps you to understand what he was saying Cheers mate 🦘🇦🇺👍

[@nedkelly9688]

Partly wrong lol. does not push the truck because back is bogging down and lifting front. trucks have locked diifs or 3 sets of drive wheels all pushing together or if not locked all pushing at different ratios and cause under steer. Comment above you explains very well how these work..

[@davidcruse6589]

@@nedkelly9688 Cheers mate yeah i didn't take that in to account thanks mate for additional information you've added

[@darkknight145]

Definitely not a recent video, I recognize the voice over guys voice from about the 90's, possibly John Laws

[@user-nf4ql8ck1u]

2.2 pound per kilo. 2,200 pound per tonne. 170 tonne = 374,000 pounds per load

[@nedkelly9688]

USA uses the smaller pounds. so is 2000 pounds per tonne..

[@judithstrachan9399]

At last, someone spelling “tonne” right.

[@davidcruse6589]

G'day Ryan If you haven't seen it look up the centipede mining trucks Also another one where they built a special highway for the trucks To run from mines to wharfs without drivers and controlled by people in city offices 24 / 7 through satellite and why special highway no public access only the trucks from mine Cheers mate 🦘🇦🇺👍

[@Danger_Mouse3619]

Yes I remember the BP oil spill. The wildlife that got covered in oil wasn't good.

[@stephaniebell4272]

I thought I heard 85 km per hour

[@caltravels9454]

I'd bet the only time they reversed would be linking trailers, one at a time, you couldn't reverse a 4 trailer setup IMO with front steer alone, seen doubles reverse when I unloaded Coles trucks, that driver was a master.

[@AustNRail]

170 metric tons is 187.39 ton short (US) or 374 785.84 lbs. 1400 kilometre is 870 miles

[@kennethdodemaide8678]

You have to slow right down to turn a corner or the weight and momentum of the load will push you straight ahead.

[@SATANSWHORE666]

No they don't you'll roll before it pushes you forward it's law to run abs and disc's on quads and if you got to pull up fast you use your trailer breaks

[@iandownie9848]

I think his comment was about not "putting the boots in" because it would take the weight off the stear axle and allow it to continue in a straight line.

[@666Buzzsaw]

You’re both wrong. His comment was about the power diverter or diff lock being engaged. If it’s engaged it will provide so much forward drive that the steer axle will understeer. This is the same as any truck and has nothing to do with the weight of the vehicle or making the steer axle light.

[@uwillcsuv7013]

For those asking 98 tyres on that combination and it’s speed limited to 90 km

[@linleyadams8025]

Definitely mid 90s as Plutonic was mentioned and I worked at one of their mines back then for a while.

[@carlamullenberg1029]

I just love how casual everyone talks about their part of the whole process of getting the fuel to where it needs to go. Typical Aussies hero's just getting the job done. But don't let their casual demeanor fool you they are highly skilled at their jobs. The Australian "truckies" know so much about their trucks and the ability of their trucks to pull trailers they can feel when something is not right, not just when the trailers are full but also when they are empty. Without Trucks Australia Stops is not just a catch phrase but is so true they keep Australia running.

[@MargaretLangley]

Australia has had road trains for decades.

[@DIPPY-TV]

G'day , you get your car license at the age of 18 , you have to be 21 to get a truck and Semi licence 24Yo you can get your Road Train License

[@DeepThought9999]

With each step up of licence class there are professional instructors/assessors to give you lessons. Your driving of a vehicle of the upgrade class must be assessed to be competent (by an authorised assessor) before the licence class upgrade can occur. There is no set time lapse between licence class upgrades other than the driver’s age but the trainee being assessed must demonstrate that they have the stipulated level of competency in the specific skills required at each stage, as well as the trainee holding the prerequisite licence class before doing the training/assessment and the various age minima having been achieved along the way.

[@megbond]

Just look at the Apple Mac LC computers to see the year of it. Around mid 1990's, I'd say.

[@byronlee-wi3zv]

Trucks are limited to 100kmh, he did say fully loaded it was purring along at 85kmh

[@mawguwerr]

Back in the day, you had to have at least 25 years experience with Road Trains before a fuel company would hire you due to insurance issues.

[@DavidCalvert-mh9sy]

Braking on that rig is not as bad as you think. There are brakes on each sets of wheels. And as you can see, there are six pairs of wheels on each trailer.

[@GregRodgers1]

I was considering a similar scenario, wondering how far the truck would travel if it needed to stop abruptly.

[@QUIX4U]

@@GregRodgers1 I'd hazard a good guess, that if the road train hit a rock (a really substantial one) it could easily stop well within it's own length. Such a "rock" be like that big RED one, bang-smack in the middle of Australia M8.!!!

[@charyuna]

Aussie trucks are built the toughest in the world. Their chassis can be rated 200-300 tons. Even aussie trailers have full chassis and 40-45 ft long and shorter wheelbases, unlike euro or US trailers which dont and are too long and cant take tight corners. These have crawler gears and top speed limited to 80-90kmh. You work your way up to this level from car. 1 ton is 2200 pounds in oz. These trucks hve switchable diff locks so you get max traction through all drive wheels like 4wd. In 2024 we run Macks with 685hp Volvo/Mack engine, Volvo 700hp, Kenworth 620hp. These 3 are the main truck manufacturers in oz.

[@ACDZ123]

Western Australia is home of the big toys ..they also use American locomotives in WA..

[@michaelcauser474]

Note also that Kenworths used in Aus are made in Aus, in the outer Eastern suburbs of Melbourne. Currently the biggest vehicle manufacturer in Australia since the American parents closed down our Ford and Holden plants, causing Toyota to follow suit.

[@DAVEG-t4t]

The locomotives in the Pilbara private rail system are Canadian made

[@ACDZ123]

@user-jf4yi6iq5o but are they USA invented or Canadian? I'm pretty sure they're from USA..being assembled in Canada doesn't make them Canadian locos in my book..and which locomotives are you specifically talking about?

[@DAVEG-t4t]

@ACDZ123 they were made by Bombardier Canada, the same company that makes the rolling stock for the subways in North America, south africa, also the train and rolling stock from UK to France through the tunnel, they also build aircraft commuter jets , dash 8s , float planes, sea doos and ski doos . At one time Canadian pacific designed the rail lines in the Pilbara for the mining companies. As for your statement they were American trains assembled in Canada is like saying Holden were assembled in Australia but not Australian because Holden was owned by General motors of the US.

[@ACDZ123]

@user-jf4yi6iq5o not really because Holden was a company before general motors acquired Holden...but reality is , these are still USA trains..I don't care if they are made in Canada under licence. Kenworth trucks are made in Australia...but we all know it's a USA endeavour

[@taipan801]

Only one week to State of Origin Game 1 on Wednesday 5th June (that's Tuesday 4th in America). Go Queensland!!!

[@judithstrachan9399]

The only rugby games I’m interested in, but I always wanna know whether we won again this year. & by how much.

[@charleshunter1954]

It's not ridiculous... it's completely normal in Western Australia

[@markissboi3583]

Nephew drives a 3 bogey roadtrain to melb now & then theres always some idiot small car that overtakes him then pulls up infront some have forced him to go off the road avoiding hitting them you see these type pull up on a 100klm hwy just to do a U turn and forget theres car trucks behind them pull over when its safe to not slow down abruptly on a hwy to 50klm then stop traffic sheezus the licenses for blind drivers > Kellogg corn Flakes

[@SATANSWHORE666]

Old film i drove these for years and good luck finding one with a roadranger in them now

[@competitionglen]

Corporate uniforms when daily temps over 40c. Generally, those road trains are not allowed in heavy populated areas, cos umm boom boom.

[@miniveedub]

Perth has road train assembly areas on the outskirts where the extra trailers are attached. There’s a length limit for passing through the city, a longer length allowed once you hit rural highways and an even longer length allowed in remote areas.

[@nedkelly9688]

@@miniveedub Same with QLD and S.A probably all over...

[@miniveedub]

@@nedkelly9688 NSW only has road trains in the western part and Victoria only has them in the north west.

[@donnabridges5858]

We have them through our town with grain carting . Used to go past our school , which was fun at harvest time . They’ve re routed to a major road now .

[@miniveedub]

@@donnabridges5858 they can be a problem rumbling through towns. In New Norcia in WA they rerouted the highway away from the town because all the heavy trucks rumbling through town, which was on the Great Northern Highway, Highway 1, were vibrating the historic buildings and causing cracks. New Norcia is Australia’s only monastery town and all the buildings are heritage listed.

[@miniveedub]

You’ve made me wonder about tyres when you said you pop a tyre every couple of years. I’ve driven through all six states of Australia, on and off road, in vehicles ranging from a small Morris Minor to a largish RV in the 57 years I’ve had my license and I can count the number of flat tyres I’ve had on one hand. I replaced my tyres when the tread wears low but it can’t be just that surely? Have I just been incredibly lucky?

[@666Buzzsaw]

The short answer is yes you have. I’ve had bad weeks where I’ve had 4 punctures in 5 days driving trucks and I’ve had periods where I haven’t had one for 10 months. Just depends on where you’re driving and where you deliver or load. I drive a scrap double so am loading and unloading in scrap yards so there’s plenty of stuff to give you a puncture if they’ve been a bit slack on their ‘housekeeping’

[@optimusmaximus9646]

Geraldton (population 41,000) is an important mid-west coastal port city as it lies at the intersection of three major industries: mining, agricluture and fishing. The port has 25 anchorage zones and handled over 17 million tonnes of cargo last year. To put this into perspective, Fremantle, which is part of the Perth metropolitan area, is Western Australia's largest and busiest general cargo port - handles 30 million tonnes of cargo a year.

[@Hayden-ql6fh]

You should for sure react to Australian dash cam footage crashes

[@Aquarium-Downunder]

We don't have driver training like the US, we have driving lessons and then a teat. It's harder in Australia. How much would US truck drivers freek out if a TRI-Drive Rig turned up in the US with a standard tri-axle trailer turner up in the US (total 26 wheeler)?

[@George-j8h]

He is governed to 85 Koh and will stop in the same distance as a rig with one trailer and as long as you have held a heavy truck licence for one year you can do the test on a road train and you can backup

[@QUIX4U]

Backing up, is simple, if you follow "the trailer follows you" rule, being DO NOT TURN SHARPLY when in reverse as the steers are at the wrong end. When driving forwards, everything "follows" the path of the steers, so in reverse, YOU should follow the path the rear axle creates To do that, it's extremely important to keep the entire road train, "aimed" as if a single wiggly worm. Anything that "gets out of shape" needs to be reset by dragging it all forwards until it relines itself (hopefully not as far as when you initially started backing). How else do you think "road train stock trucks", load at any cattle yard / sheep yard (loading) rampstand ? They pull up alongside the loading races, until they get the last trailer past, then they simply (very slowly) reverse in, until that trailer has been "aimed" at the loading pen itself, then they "run" all trailers into their "concertina" tow hitches - to create one solid worm, to thus just "run" the stock through the entirety of the road train, to load the 1st trailer at the front, closing gates as they fill the trailers up, until the last trailer is full. Then they pull the drawbars out into their locked tow positions, give a wave goodbye to the stock/station agent and off they go, another wiggly worm - out there, in the dust or on the blacktop, in the "away out there" outback.

[@geoffmckenzie7546]

Not everything is BIGGER in Texas mate - Australia is a BIG place

[@damianrutledge3706]

As far as the Road Train.... No, you dont back it unless the trailers are dead straiht behind you...only for safety reasons. You drop each trailer from back to front, then maneuver each trailer individually. I drove trucks over the the USA from coast to coast...lived in California for 8 years. Even you guys have tripples...mainly across the northern and mid western grain belt states. But even FedEx and UPS run doubles and tripples. Here in Australia its because of great distances ...over in the usa its(for FedEx and UPS etc) its due to lack of interstate drivers. Unfortunately you guys need at least another 1½ to 2 MILLION interstate drivers.... Our road trains are a necessity due to lack of railways to these remote areas because there just isn't enough people living and working in these remote areas. You go away from the ocean in any capital city in Australia, you will hit "The Outback" within 10 hours driving...most Capital cities, you can drive 2 to 3 hours from the city and be in The Outback. And you might not see another car or person for hours...youll find the towns on the highways are about 1/2 to 3/4's of a standard car fuel tank.....some Hwys you might have to literally carry jerry cans of fuel to get to where you're headed. We've only colonised Australia for just over 200 years, you guys in the USA have had another 250 years of exploration and colonisation and immigration. Plus....its bloody DESERT!!!!**lol** Imagine all of your Canadian border states, ALL of your mid west, ALL of your south west states and all your southern states ...everything up to your easternmost states and eastern gulf states.... A R E D E S E R T.... thats basically Australia.... We're making new infrastructures every year...but it takes time....and people....and people dont like living in the desert**lmao**...even in the USA*lol*...i know ...i lived in the 'High Desert' region of Southern California....you can live in the desert if you have shelter, food, water, and power....with that you can live anywhere....its getting people to move there thats the hard part.**lmao**

[@antontsau]

nothing specific in maintenance - it is MODULAR. It is TRAIN, not just single vehicle with 50 wheels. If one trailer fails you can uncouple it and replace. And generally no special training required. Just do not forget about tight corners, but these trains do not run where such corners exists. 150t not allowed east of PtAugusta and Broken Hill, where all population (except Perth, where they are not allowed either) lives. Acceleration is not the best, but braking is absolutely the same as on Bdouble, which is usual city truck here, to deliver fuel, dry goods or containers all over Sydney.

[@kazz3956]

Scary to pass Road Trains like this in a regular vehicle. Firstly it can take a while to do, so when you make the decision you have to be sure and commit. A lot of times I’ve driven on WA remote roads, the trucks will use their indicator to tell you if it is safe to pass. The end decision is still yours. Be safe on the roads everyone. Hi from WA 🎉🎉🎉

[@DAVEG-t4t]

Takes at least 1 km at 100km to overtake a RT

[@QUIX4U]

Be a little like the Elephant races, in other countries, but with a lot more "truck" to pass, it is still just ONE HUGE LONG WORM, (or could seem to be like an Elephant, to a smaller "underpowered" city car).