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Umarex Komplete NitroAir I Hunting I Who is this Rifle For?

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americanairgunhunter

americanairgunhunter

Күн бұрын

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@user-lc5xp5xd2i
@user-lc5xp5xd2i 2 ай бұрын
They need to include a refillable tank for when they stop making the disposables (which I'm pretty sure they will).
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
I would rather see them make a female Foster type adaptor so that I could carry a couple of these cartridges as an emergency backup air source for my usual guns on longer hikes!
@chaplainsoffice6907
@chaplainsoffice6907 2 ай бұрын
Refillable tanks would defeat the purpose of this new system which is not designed for all day shooting. When I'm in the deep woods I don't want a large tank or compressor. Hand pumping days are over. One pellet one meal. That's what the Komplete is designed for.
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
@@chaplainsoffice6907 There would be all kinds of problems, the cartridges would need to be redesigned and probably have to made of a different material for multiple refills, you would need filling accessories and adaptors, buy a compressor or find a place to refill, the whole value proposition gets turned upside down. it does defeat the purpose. However, if I had an adaptor for a one time use for emergency refills of my other rifles, that would be interesting. Over the last 40 years of airgun hunting, I've inconveniently run out of air a few times.
@twolak1972
@twolak1972 Ай бұрын
What makes you say that. Pretty stupid comment . What good would it do then to stop making the one thing that makes it such a great little gun or are you just butthurt cuz this little gem outshoots your 2000 dollar PCP rifle. LOL
@spiderman0863
@spiderman0863 8 күн бұрын
@@twolak1972Do you own one?
@psycho6275
@psycho6275 2 ай бұрын
The gun has a special niche it fills for sure. For someone like me who has many pcp's and fill sources it doesn't appeal at all. Someone who will use it occasionally like a few times a year i could see it.
@MexicoAdventurer
@MexicoAdventurer 2 ай бұрын
Woke up at 2:30 AM and was unable to sleep. So after starting a citronella candle and grabbing a few Tums... I was delighted to see this new video up. 👍😁 What better time to watch something soothing to help me maybe get back to sleep. Interesting feature with the cartridges. As my grandpa would say about the accuracy, it's "Dead nuts." Kinda like hearing you say "One for the pot." You know it's a good gun when we hear that. I didn't hear it on the video, but I'm imagining you said it at some point. 😂 Well... gonna try to go back to sleep. Have a great day, Jim. Thanks for the upload!
@UmarexAir
@UmarexAir 2 ай бұрын
Spectacular comment! 😃
@UmarexAir
@UmarexAir 2 ай бұрын
Professional as always. Nice shots on those critters. Thank you, Jim! 🙂
@JayBolter-v3w
@JayBolter-v3w 2 ай бұрын
This is an interesting concept that could go far.. I have also seen that shooter's are experimenting on trying to make refillable tank adapters for this rifle and I think this will actually come to be.. THANKS.. P.S this rifle does have lots of potential for hunting and I think even target shooting...
@twolak1972
@twolak1972 6 күн бұрын
This gun just opened up areas I previously couldnt hunt because of restrictions on firearms around buildings and residences but because it falls in the category of air rifle NOW I can get those rabbits and squirrels than I had to just drool over before . Thanks Umarex. This os something i have been waiting for.
@Wingman115
@Wingman115 2 ай бұрын
Some great thoughts to consider. Thanks for sharing.
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@frankbollotino2270
@frankbollotino2270 2 ай бұрын
Jim if you buy a tin of pellets (500) and ten cartridges of hydrogen that’s 450 shots ! That’s a lot of hunting .
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
Yes, that is where it gets interesting. The other thing is start up cost are low, and even if you spend more over a long period, those costs are also spread out.
@bobmarquardt8206
@bobmarquardt8206 26 күн бұрын
For a follow-up, try using an 88g CO2 cylinder for short range plinking. Read a Hard Air Magazine report about using CO2 with the .177 version. Produced more than double the shot count but with reduced fps and fpe of course.
@ADONAIsays-so
@ADONAIsays-so 2 ай бұрын
Hmmm. That would help me control squirels around the prolerty...and chipmonks!!!.
@ADAM-qr7bi
@ADAM-qr7bi 2 ай бұрын
ITS GONNA COST 150$ IN GAS FOR EVERY 500 PELL's NO THANK YOU. NOT IN THIS ECONOMY. OR ANY ECONOMY STILL LOVE THE HUNTING FOOTAGE
@rafaelzkm
@rafaelzkm 2 ай бұрын
You can get hand pumps for about 40 dollars. It doesn’t make sense. Maybe an older shooter who does not shoot a lot and can’t hand pump.
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
I think this product has a specific user profile, and cost per use is a cornerstone. Another thing to consider is distribution, if these turn up at Cabella's, bass Pro, Scheels .... not to mention Walmart, they will get traction. For me (with about 70) PCPs in my collection, several compressors, and even more tanks the only real use case for this gun is to sit in my kayak to use a couple times a year for a riverside squirrel hunt.
@wheelman717
@wheelman717 2 ай бұрын
Not a bad option for a casual shooter looking for pcp accuracy like myself, for me here in canada an avenger with a compressor is close to a grand
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
If it was just a rabbit and squirrel gun, it could take a few years for it to be more expensive than a low end pcp and portable compressor. On the other hand, if you shoot 200-300 pellets a week, it would be a more expensive option in a month! Different horses for different courses
@MartinBrito-lb4ef
@MartinBrito-lb4ef 20 күн бұрын
I like this pcp, there is a market for everybody its a fun rifle to have, incuded in the collection, no complaining here...
@CaceriaDominicana
@CaceriaDominicana Күн бұрын
Excellent video, thank you.
@ahmondeboxley2950
@ahmondeboxley2950 2 ай бұрын
Looks nice can it be use in cold weather
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
Haven't used it in cold weather, but should not have any problems, compressed air is not very temperature sensitive as CO2 is.
@twolak1972
@twolak1972 Ай бұрын
Yup. Nitro air is impervious to the cold or extreme heat.
@twolak1972
@twolak1972 Ай бұрын
Love my 22 CALIBER. It flat out shoots. The 10 gray squirrels and 2 cottontails I have shot with diablo 25.5 gr pellets never knew what hit them. THANKS FOR A GREAT NEW CONCEPT. UMAREX YOU ROCK.
@airgunfun4248
@airgunfun4248 2 ай бұрын
Great video Jim. Interesting concept I hadn't heard of. I couldn't read the tin. What were the pellets? Thanks for posting!
@joedokes8641
@joedokes8641 2 ай бұрын
JSB's 15.9 grains .
@janrobertbos
@janrobertbos 2 ай бұрын
...nice...as usual...😀
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ryanking513
@ryanking513 9 күн бұрын
For about that price could get the. Beeman 1322 or Raide both great PCP
@DomRivers67
@DomRivers67 2 ай бұрын
Ah, in the UK we played this game, Brocock, they made a range of bolt action rifles and revolvers and a home manifold to charge the cartridges with....most of them ended up in armed robberies and murders as people just had them bored out for catridges....so they got taken off of the market without a firearms certificate...which effectively killed the product
@226eagleeye
@226eagleeye 2 ай бұрын
Are you kidding me Jim, $12 per cartridge? That’s the most expensive air I never bought lol. Now if they made the gun in a way that accepts both, a regular bottle and the cartridge, I can see that. Just the cartridge, not worth it. I hope it doesn’t spring a leak lol.
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
@@226eagleeye I tried to explain this in the video, the economic model for this product is (I believe) two fold. First is the amount of shooting that will be done, and I can tell you a lot of springers sold shoot less than 500 shots before they are stored and forgotten. There is a very specific demographic that is the targeted user. You, me, and most of the people that come to my channel are probably not that demographic. We are also not the major segment of the airgun market. The second element is the low start up cost. Additionally the gun is easier to shoot accurately than a springer, does not require filling gear and is simpler to use than a standard pcp for the uninitiated. When an upstream marketing (product development) team does requirements engineering, an early step is market segmentation and identification of (targeted) customer requirements. If you look at this in context, I think the potential value proposition becomes clearer.
@226eagleeye
@226eagleeye 2 ай бұрын
@ Jim thank you for the explanation and now that I think about it I see exactly what you mean. I reacted fast before thinking that not everybody goes through a tin of pellets every two days like I do lol. Thank you for your excellent,honest reviews.
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
@@226eagleeye The thing with a hobby is that it is very personal, and to evaluate a gun based on how it fits your individual needs. That is a completely normal and logical way to look at a product. Because of the airgun related content I generate, I try to separate myself from the enthusiast in me and think about how this product would suit (who I think) the intended user is. It's just a matter of perspective. Thanks for following the channel, I do appreciate it!
@226eagleeye
@226eagleeye 2 ай бұрын
@ I never miss a video from you. Always good information, plus entertainment in your hunts.
@twolak1972
@twolak1972 Ай бұрын
Wow. What a bunch of whiners on here totally dissing on this cutting edge tech. I just got one about a month ago and cant sauy enough about it. Its so much fun. Shoots insanely accurate and I love the concept. I already have 10 gray squirrels and 2 cottontail rabbits to my tally. 1 was over 40 yards and head shot. I dont shoot competition or burn through a tin of pellets in a day so this is a dream come true. The triggers is top notch and the ergos are great. Just a all around great little gun. I think the big snag with all the snobs is that this little gun has been winning so many trophies at the airgun competitions that theyre all pissed off and eant these guns to go away which aint gonna happen cuz now everyone knows how awrsome these are for the average shooter and small game hunter who might go through 2 or 3 tanks a season.
@tomgorden3762
@tomgorden3762 Ай бұрын
Does the cylinders leak gas after while sitting?
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter Ай бұрын
haven't had any issues, had a cartridge sitting in the gun for about three months and it has held pressure.
@twolak1972
@twolak1972 Ай бұрын
Nope. The nitro is really good for not ruining the seals.
@rapalaron6348
@rapalaron6348 2 ай бұрын
Hi mate! People have also to keep on practice shooting than only hunt ten times a year. Practice to stay used to the gun and to keep up the shooting skills. There is nothing more simple, reliable and efficient than a well made quality break barrel or side/under lever air rifle. Yes the Umarex is more easy to load but it's also take just a second to cock the barrel and a springer or gasram air rifle. Springers have no leaking air issues with O-rings and seals, empty cartridges when you need the rifle and have less moving parts that can cause problems. The idea from Umarex is good but the cartridge is to expensive. I'm still waiting for that airgun that can be used with cheap re-filled Soda Stream Co2 bottles....Compressed gas don't have to be expensive.....Umarex may sell the gun for a fair price but the long term big profit is in the cartridge that makes shooting that rifle no fun. With thousands and thousands of products the big money is made by the refill's and and cartridges, even a good PCP will be cheaper at the end and you can have at least all day fun. Even more important is to stay trained to control the rifle, what is a "MUST" for every hunter shooting at living quarry. Only the off hand shooting you show in your video need skills and training.... In my opinion the Umarex is just a smart marketing idea to be a long term money maker. And where to get the cartridges when Umarex discontinue that model because smart people don't buy them, make the cartridge even more expensive..., or if Umarex some day won't exist anymore? Crazy world nowadays and to be undependable is the way to go. Nice bunnies for the pot mate...👍 Cheers....
@MichaelWhite-cx4ho
@MichaelWhite-cx4ho Ай бұрын
On the other hand... World reknowned Umarex is offering us yet another highly accurate engineering marvel for which I am very thankful. The PCP level 3,600 psi-in-a-disposable catridge innovation is another leap forward in compressed gas/"air"gun technology. The Komplete is getting high marks for accuracy and innovation. Their engineering/design teams hit a home run with this kit, and Jim Chapman showed us just how good it is. I can't wait to see if/when Umarex applies the nitrogen cannister technology to their "Less Lethal" line of personal/public safety defense products that, btw, are becoming more widely known and more popular every day.
@WillyK51
@WillyK51 2 ай бұрын
Why not refillable easy to swap high pressure tanks??, If on a longer hunting trip could carry one in the back pack. AEA Defender/Harpoon cartridges very interesting, specially if you can shoot shot, arrows and bullets, but it's only double shot.
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
Not a bad approach, but it's a different use case. There are of course several guns with removable tanks AEA, Hatsan, BRK, FX and many others. However, you have the same issue of needing to get them refilled, they all tend to be more expensive (especially if you start buying extra tanks) and start-up costs much higher, and you still either need a place to fill the removable tank or need to buy a compressor. Again, the Komplete addresses the need of somebody that will not be doing much shooting and wants an inexpensive (at lower shooting volumes), simple, and accessible solution for pest control. It seems that not many people discussing alternatives to this gun are looking at the targeted users and use case.
@MarkVicento
@MarkVicento 25 күн бұрын
I like the video hunts but you never state what distances your shooting at weather it's a target or game
@tomhall4266
@tomhall4266 29 күн бұрын
How much Dinero? How can someone tell if it's cost effective or not with nothing to compare it to?
@bobmarquardt8206
@bobmarquardt8206 26 күн бұрын
Air rifle- $200.00 USD. Nitro Gas cartridge $23.00 for 2.
@PORAO-5.5-CARABINASDEPRESSAO
@PORAO-5.5-CARABINASDEPRESSAO Ай бұрын
🤠🎯👍🙌🙏
@toddhunter5693
@toddhunter5693 2 ай бұрын
looks a remodelled hammerli 850.
@neorevenge2720
@neorevenge2720 2 ай бұрын
A flop😅
@americanairgunhunter
@americanairgunhunter 2 ай бұрын
Interested about the comment, do you have sales numbers?
@twolak1972
@twolak1972 Ай бұрын
Yeah right. That's why you have to order the 22 caliber cuz they fly off the shelves. Moronic comment. Do some research.
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