Five Reasons to Hunt with Spring Piston Airguns

[@randymartin5521]

Can't beat the simplicity of a springer. Plus you can put meat on the table or eliminate pests without using valuable firearm ammo.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Agreed, I think everyone should have one!

[@dustinh4175]

@@americanairgunhunter or 4

[@OKBushcraft]

@@dustinh4175 why so limiting??? 😉

[@jeremyduncan8030]

Just got a Gamo Whisper Fusion Mach 1. Nothing like getting back to the basics.

[@hlessiavedon]

I'll take my pcp 177 that pushes 15.5 grain hollowpoint slugs out of the barrel at 1000 fps and 45 fpe, still got 25 fpe at 100 yards

[@michaelb.42112]

I love how you and Steve are reminding the community just how cool .177 and springers still are, and that in a Zombie Apocalypse where you have no access to air pumps, a springer will be your best friend !

[@americanairgunhunter]

Glad you like the video, I wont give up my PCP's either, but lots of fun hunting with springers!

[@usernamemykel]

If I don't have access to air for a PCP, and the zombies come around, I'd use my 12 gauge and my .357 as my "best friends". ; )

[@Ijusthopeitsquick]

@@usernamemykel I don't think the OP meant springers were good against zombies, just that they were good for the apocalypse...

[@michaelb.42112]

@@Ijusthopeitsquick I'm not sure what you mean, but I love the honesty of springers and zombies or apocalypse, what's the difference ? I love PCP's and springers.

[@wildrangeringreen]

They had decent air pumps by the 1600's... pretty sure you can figure out how to make one. Why does everyone think air guns are a new thing?

[@brynybach7741]

A perfect explanation and excellent advice. Your inclusion of UK appropriate content is also great to hear from a USA made video. I've recommended your videos to all of my shooting friends here in the UK. Your experience is greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Well thank you kindly, appreciate that. The UK holds a special place for me as an airgunner. I lived in Europe for more than a decade and got into adult airguns reading Air Gunner, Airgun World, and especially loved the articles of John Darling.

[@carllockpick6179]

Well said. A brother from the uk, with a springer.

[@johnlantz3771]

Wow, that was without a doubt, the most informative video on springers that I’ve ever seen. No matter one’s experience level, there were several gems to be gleaned for sure, well done!

[@michaelb.42112]

This is probably the BEST air rifle video I've ever seen, Jim. Thanks. I agree with rule #6 - They are FUN !!!!

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks, appreciate that...... and they are a blast!

[@matthewpenn407]

I have spent thousands on fancy PCP's and big magnum break barrels, but when the time comes to go hunting I almost always reach for my 130 dollar .22 cal Benjamin NP2. For all of the reasons you listed, I can hunt as long as my body will alow with that rifle.

[@philkennedy342]

Your not the only one spent a lot on pcps and still go back to my 40year old trusty Diana model 48 absolutely solid work horse rifle..

[@usernamemykel]

My Benjamin NP died, replaced with an Air Venturi .22 pcp long gun, as well as an Air Venturi .22 bullpup, and to round things off, a Gamo Swarm Maxxim .22. Iguanas fear me. But they also fear me because I've eliminated some of their cousins with an old Daisy 880 and a Crosman American Classic, both in .177. The Crosman, fitted with a shoulder stock and a telescopic sight, becomes an accurate tool to fix the Iguana problem.

[@1danny2k]

I feel it's like going back to a barebones jeep or vintage bike. True there are smoother and more powerful toys but the charm and character of raw item is timeless

[@milesstover3724]

once you own enough air guns ( i have about 20 of them now from little ones all the way up to pcps/bigbores) you realize the biggest, fanciest, most powerful, impressive airguns are not always the ones you want to pick up and shoot. Ive become a dang gunsmith of Crosman Classic Airguns, I have configured so many different pistol and carbine designs with these highly customizable systems , its to the point now I can just imagine a setup, barrel length, attachments, internal components, etc and just build out a totally different type of gun. And these guns and parts are cheap, AND they actually shoot extremely well for what they are. Crosman hit massive home runs with their classic lines like the 2240, 13xx, etc. Big gamo guy as well, love their rifles and the warranties are second to none.

[@djangolachlan2194]

I just started shooting airguns last year, i got a cheap gamo bone collector .22 and a hatsan .177 they have been better than I expected. love videos like this.

[@SandlapperSam]

What caliber do you prefer for hunting?

[@djangolachlan2194]

@@SandlapperSam Surprisingly, .177 has been more than enough for rabbits and collared doves. .22 is great for rabbits, but at beyond 35-40 yards, I've bounced a lot of .22s off birds.

[@klaustrumputin-trudeau4142]

@@djangolachlan2194 Try a lighter pellet on the .22.

[@djangolachlan2194]

@@klaustrumputin-trudeau4142 I did, but the .177 is so good on birds, I just use that.

[@joshuaraffensperger3592]

What Hatsan model do you have? I have the Hatsan model 95 in .177 and got to say I like it better than my .22LR rim fire rifles for squirrels.

[@twistedarrow2600]

Jim please do more springer videos. This is the core subject of air Guns.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks, I've got more in the plans!

[@billlander3700]

Thanks man

[@rehmanali-vz6fc]

thank you uncle Jim you resolve my problems in this video because i am going to buy a pcp air rifle under 1200$ before watch your video now i am change my mind to buy a springer .thank you again . may god bless you and your family amen.love you.

[@MaxBeline-vc4fg]

What's a pcp air-rifle ?

[@rehmanali-vz6fc]

@@MaxBeline-vc4fg PCP air guns (pre-charged pneumatic) .

[@HobbiesHobo]

A good springer is back on the list, pcp is moving down in priority for me. Thanks Mike.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks Mike, at some point an heirloom quality springer from one of the Euro-airgun companies is a great investment.

[@hpiproceed97pcp20]

PCP aren’t what people think they are I have a .25 springer and love it !

[@HobbiesHobo]

@@hpiproceed97pcp20 I don't think a PCP was really high on my list to begin with after I researched the extra equipment requirements, it was all fun for a while to watch other people shoot fx dual canister stuff but a good springer is do able. I still shoot my Benjamin Multipump, .177 for fun at the rifle range, bought new by mailorder from Herter's in USA for about $75.00 in 1975. Thanks, Mike.

[@jeremyblackwater439]

@@HobbiesHobo I bought a synthetic marauder in .25 in 2014 and I still regret the purchase. I love my springers

[@jaxonschlutz1279]

@@jeremyblackwater439 damn I just ordered a Benjamin armada today, what don’t you like about your marauder?

[@jamesbach2021]

Airguns in general.. I bought a Daisey 880 in 1976. Still have it, although it stays in the gun cabinet these days. It really taught me how to "Hunt" and stalk game though! I now own a Hatsan 95 breakbarrel. What an awesome gun. I don't hunt much anymore, but I can keep quarter size groups at 35 yards with the Hatsan. It is a pleasure to shoot.

[@hulbertparsons7396]

I'm just getting into adult airguns, but that 880 is not to be trifled with! And I have the modern one from Wally. I feel confident in taking birds and even small squirrel with it.

[@1stinlastout165]

Simple, accurate and dependable. I use my hw95k in 22 here in the UK.

[@BonganiMagadu]

Does it kill pheasant song grouse sir I'm in UK but originally from Southern Africa and going home Ng wife bought me brand new spring breaker and I want to hunt guinea fowl as they are everywhere in Southern Africa

[@jerrypruett8870]

Hi! Jim, again another, if not the very BEST video on subjects of spring rifles, with hunting, target shooting!! You make it pure enjoyment! I have a friend been shooting spring guns accurately since the 70s, he has a super range set up on 100 yards, increments of ten yards, with nursery ribbons for wind-age etc., hunting with spring guns as most important with shot placement! But, just knowing their is only one shot, is it more of a thrill, excitement to hunt and no it's all for the money and no show without accurate hold, shot placement ETC.! YOU ARE the BEST at this video explanation with spring guns! Semper FI! Ps I do watch most all ur ads!

[@americanairgunhunter]

Hi Jerry, thanks for that, it's appreciated. Haven't seen you around for a while.

[@jerrypruett8870]

@@americanairgunhunter THANK U! JIM, My Base computer died, left me high and dry, but I have kept up, just no response, got a couple old computers, got newer one coming, also some old war injuries, which had me down about a year! Been on daily rehab since Jan. 2, 2021! Many many Blessings!! Semper FI!

[@wagstag89]

I've got my first PCP on the way but my 22cal springer will always be cherished and hunted with. I have a Hatsan 95 22cal with a Hawke 2-7 scope. Many many squirrels have been taken with that rifle.

[@tompedersen6564]

Thanks, Jim. Excellent presentation. In summary, springers keep it simple, and the older I get, the more I appreciate simplicity.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Too true!

[@perlitosanjose8876]

@@americanairgunhunter send me 1 Bro.

[@petermiller8634]

Great video & you’ve highlighted the fact that simplicity has a lot going for it.

[@cornfields-crosshairs4182]

Right on Jim!! What started it all for most of US Air gunners.....Springers! What I refer to as my "Grab & Go" Airguns. Really great video. I just recently rebuilt my Weihrauch HW98 in .22...... I realized how much I have missed that rifle once I started shooting it again. #6.....FUN! I also partake in past removal and small game hunting with my Springer. Looking forward to your future videos of hunting throughout the year with springers Jim. This is going to be great! Thanks again for your time and the great content you put out for us, much appreciated!!

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks for commentibng, appreciate it. Looking forward to getting out with both new guns and some old favorites!

[@cornfields-crosshairs4182]

@@americanairgunhunter EXELLENT!!👍

[@sparkdg]

Thank you for your knowledge and tips on these springers. I’ve been looking on KZbin and you have the most informative content I’ve found for someone wanting to get into the hobby. I was looking for something for rat control for my chicken coop and think I’ve stumbled upon a new hobby.

[@hulbertparsons7396]

That's quite like I have stumbled into it!

[@davidcottom7750]

A big hello from the UK Jim, loving the springer vid, I absolutely love spring powered air rifles I've had them all my life and still shoot and hunt with my hatsan break barrel today, i do own a PCP but my first love are springers you get some absolutely awesome old springers so well made and are in my opinion beautiful to look at. Anyway Jim God bless you my friend and keep on plinking baby atb Dave

[@americanairgunhunter]

Hello David, I'll bet you can find many great springers on the preowned market over there. Once the travel restrictions are lifted and I can get back to work in Europe, I'd like to hit one of the game fairs in the UK.

[@davidcottom7750]

@@americanairgunhunter yeah Jim picked up a Webley mk1 osprey got it for nothing a friend of mine no longer wanted it and I think he could see how much I was drooling over it, 😛 and said you can have that if you want it needless to say i took him up on the offer 👌needs a bit of Care and attention but it's all there God bless you mate keep on doing what you're doing atb Dave

[@paulhanley5811]

brought me back to my younger days in Ireland , we had a 22 springer my dad used might have been German, but mine was a 177 B S A it had a few years on it but was a sweet shot , I shot this rifle in the late 1970's , wish i still had it , thanks for the vid

[@philkennedy342]

I been shooting both springer and pcp air gun and my favourite is definitely my Diana’s I’ve had a model 48 since mid 1980’s still mint and still performs today I’ve also got 340 ntec and now own a k98… been shooting air rifles all my life and I certainly agree if you can shoot them well pcp are easy one advantage with pcp is a well silenced rifle produces next to no noise which means you’ll very often get a second chance if you miss 😂😂😂 thanks for sharing enjoyed it very much.. big thumbs up from the uk..

[@redleadervfr-v4906]

Definitely agree I prefer a springer any day for sure. I have a Weihrauch HW97 (22) an Air Arms TX 200 Mk3 (177) a couple of very old BAS Airsporter’s (177 and 22). I do have a Webley Axsore (22) but I’ve only used it about 5 times in the 10 years I’ve owned it. Thank you for a great video

[@smitbar11]

Really good video, I'm a UK shooter so sub 12ftlb. Mainly shoot .177 and favourites are my springers these days, less hassle IMHO. Headshots out to 40 yds on Pigeons and Squirrels and Rats, probably favour my .22 on Rabbits. We don't have Jack Rabbits but do have Hares which are larger with big ears, I don't shoot them and not sure of the hunting status on them at the moment. Starlings have been on and off the pest list over the years here, in large numbers they can be a pest. It's not too difficult to get a section one FAC or fire arms certificate licence if you have a valid reason to own one like farmer, club shooter or pest controller but you have the UK police involved, secure approved gun cabinets plus you need a professional type person as a character witness to support you, like a GP or solicitor, accountant etc. Too much hassle for me at the moment. It is easier to get a shot gun licence I've been told....

[@got2kittys]

A jackrabbit is a hare species. Not different enough to matter.

[@rudedawg5087]

Excellent video, thank you. I started shooting an air rifle as youngster when my dad brought home a Benjamin pump up .177. He had already taught me to shoot a rimfire with his Model 63 Winchester but an air rifle was a whole new experience. I bought my 1st adult air rifle much later in life in 2013, an RWS/Diana 34 Classic T06 in .177, I became addicted. I bought a 2nd one in 2015 and still shoot them almost daily in our backyard. One is sighted in with 7.9 CPHP @ 25 yrds. for squirrels at our bird feeders and the other @ 50 yrds. with 8.3 RWS Superdomes which is the max distance I'll shoot for a humane 1 shot 1 kill head shot on squirrels in our pecan trees. Thanks again for your enjoyable and informative video.

[@r123brown]

Subdivisions are now a part of rural life making the springer an excellent choice for hunting. Tks for the info

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks for the comment! Smaller areas that are noise and range sensitive offer a lot of hunting opportunity for asirgunners,.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

Oh--I have seen this guy before!!! He is the guy with the most credibility about air guns on social media. Jim: You should call all the outdoor hunting/fishing guys on the old fashioned radio all across the nation, (Like Mike Avery for Michigan stuff), and educate them on today's air gun capabilities, draw backs, and advantages of springer and PCP airguns. How about shooting a Deer from your living room sliding door in the morning, and not waking up the kids or ticking off the wife.? :)

[@garethh6962]

Ive always hunted from been a child with airguns started with springers, my main gun now is a pcp but i have a Weihrauch HW95 and will always have a quality springer in my arsenal. Plus a spring airgun is the best rifle for prepping for small game by far. A lot of folk here too in the UK have there springers took down from 12 fpe to 10 fpe for extra accuracy some swear by it.

[@americanairgunhunter]

So many of the people in the States grew up with the .22 rimfire (i got mine sometime before I was 11 y/o) and the whole idea of lower power and the requisite skill for a spinger is ab barrier to adoption for many..... but I will never quite shooting them!

[@SlingAndStones]

I dont know if you'll see this, but your spring/gas piston videos are my favorites on the subject. You treat them seriously, unlike many who see them as archaic and outdated. I'm not just some old fart who loves the good old days, either. I'm 16 and just passed my driving test today. They genuinely have a place in a hunters kit the same way pcp rifles do.

[@americanairgunhunter]

@@SlingAndStones thanks for taking the time to comment, it is appreciated. Think it’s great that a young guy sees the value of springers. I think you are completely right in that there is a continuing place for these guns in every small game hunters arsenal. BTW: congrats on the driving text!

[@javiercastaneda4609]

I liked your video, you provided very good explanations about the two most fundamental airgun calibers: .177 and .22 inches. Also, you pointed out the fact that spring powered air rifles are not obsolete, and I am glad with that because I hold three spring air rifles. Thanks and best regards.

[@michaelscafe2818]

Just picked up the gamo magnum gr in 22. I settled on that one specifically because it is a powerful and accurate spring piston. I believe that simplicity in design is king, and I doubt all the nitro piston powerplants will age as well as a spring piston. Replacing springs and cup seals is far simpler than rebuilding and recharging a nitro piston. Just saw some videos of guys air gun turkey hunting, and now i'm inspired to get out there and practice until i can consistantly make turkey head sized groups off hand

[@stephenstephen1217]

Jim, appreciate all the time and effort you have put in for airgun hunting/shooting! Your reports are honest and informative, except for possibly one issue, and forgive me if it's been addressed before, but you refer to all airguns in your videos as "springers". I believe you have also shot nitro piston rifles as well. Their is a difference as you know, mostly with some nitro guns reaching 1300fps with .22 pellets, and 900fps with .25's. This is substantial when talking about hunting small game. I am a big fan of breakbarrel airguns, PCP's are nice, but I like the simple "create your own air" rather than invest in a compressor, and tanks!

[@americanairgunhunter]

Sorry I'm just answering this, but only just saw your post. I refer to conventional mechanical spring piston gun, and gas piston guns as springers (which are a gas actuated spring) as springers which is the common usage. But you are right, the gas piston guns have attributes the mechanical spring guns don't, but for simplicity's sake I didn't go into that here..... maybe that would be a good video to follow up with! Thanks for the comment!

[@elvinamillaneam]

Hey Chapman, I agree with your 100% I have more fun with my crossman F4 .177 and my Gamo swam magnum. 22 than my pcp when I'm iguana hunting. Is easier just to carry a tin or two with food and water instead of small air tanks. I would like to see videos hunting with Springers and gas pistons from budget friendly to high end. Great to see you again...

[@americanairgunhunter]

Hello Elvin, thanks for the suggestions! I'm trying to get back on schedule with video releases, hopefully I can keep to at least 2x per month and trying for every week. Hope all is well in PR!

[@randyhardy3692]

I have the F4 , good little guns and shoot fast I got 1025 fps with the cheap daisy pointed

[@markmeador1137]

I have been hunting with pellet rifles for 55 years. I had a Daisy Red Rider when I was 5. Before a had my first springer I had a Sheridan pump .20. My first springer was a Diana mod. 45 in .177. Rabbit killer deluxe.

[@brandleverage]

Great video Jim! I love springers for all the reasons you do, and recently got a .25 Kodiak after a couple of years looking since reading your articles on the same. I’d love to see more videos and articles on springers, and your technique, especially offhand. As you say, not many benches out there in the bush (yet that’s all I see people do at the range these days)!

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks Steve, that Kodiak is a monster, both in size and performance! Enjoy it! That's one of many guns sold or traded off I wish I'd held onto.

[@johncuthbertson2565]

Being in the uk I appreciate the references. We don't have any choice but all the fun is still there 👍. Got pcps but getting a beeman black cub 1022 delivered today and looking forward to going back to my roots 😊.

[@888zzz]

Springers are my favorite partly because they have character. PCPs by comparison are like robots. I'm surprised that the HW95/R9 is not at the top of your favorites list because it has all the best qualities of a hunting springer:accuracy, power, excellent trigger and build quality, moderate weight, priced fairly, etc. With the V-Mach cocking arm pin R9 barrels can be swapped fairly quickly and are interchangeable with the R1, HW85, 90, and 98.

[@americanairgunhunter]

I do like the HW95 a lot, I don't have one right now but do use my buddy Chachos sometimes when down in Texas. Great rifle!

[@skycat777u.k5]

YES YES!! triple 888 🙏🙌I concur have a hw90💪had it for over 15 years and havnt had to do a thing to it still shoots just as accurately as the day I got it but lost a little power ;( I bought it cuz it was different ,everyone else at the time were all getting springers the 80 ,BSA lightning ,air arms pro sport, I always like different unique innovative and heard excellent reviews about it;) it's the only air rifle I know of were you can adjust the power of it via a screw at the back of the cylinder and pump up the gas ram 👍 never tried it yet as I never have the money at the right time! Anyway sorry to prattle on 😝it was just nice to see someone else recognize the ol 90 as being a top quality contender 👍oh also the oven 'OTHER'(edit dumb predictive spellings not as smart as he thinks he is 😒) Ones the theoben evolution that's the only other gas ram rifle I know of that you can pump up 👌 Take care A U.k ~Skywatching Kitty~! 🙏

[@skycat777u.k5]

@@americanairgunhunter Hi 🖐️😀 there friend, Great video Americanairgunhunter 👍 Cheers 🍻

[@jakan756]

the 95 is very hard to beat

[@sampark9888]

Any idea where I can buy that cocking arm pin and a spare 22 barrel for the r9? Thanks in advance.

[@juntatang759]

THANK YOU JIM FOR THE NICE VIDEO . YOU HAVE ALREADY DESCRIVED WHAT THE VIEWERS AND YOUR SUBSCIBERS REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT SPRING PISTON AIRGUNS . MORE POWER AND GOD BLESS ! SEE YOU ON YOUR NEXT VIDS .

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks Jun, appreciate the comment!

[@jasonbrenner9814]

Jim I have a lot of air guns through out the years because of you reviews ! Last break barrel I got was the Harlan carnivore.30 cal after your review on it ! Lol . Great video Jim

[@americanairgunhunter]

Hi Jason, thanks for the comment, pleasure to be an enabler 😀

[@HenauderTitzauf]

About 30 years ago, I had occasion to be in Wally late one night and found an Air rifle, break barrel in 177 priced to move at $25.00. Good buy and I got it, still have it, maintain it, still shoot it occasionally. Great little gun to shoot. I also have bought the qb78, cross man 1377, w/shoulder stock, and enjoy them all very much.

[@Wingman115]

I agree Jim springers still have a place in the airgun world. Great video my friend thanks for posting.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks very much, I know I'll continue using them!

[@russmiller4801]

Absolutely! I agree with every word as an experienced powder burn shooter; 22 caliber springer is spectacular!!

[@ronaldmoffett3498]

Great fun watching and learning! Always good and informative videos! Much appreciated!

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks Ronald!

[@TCat-ve9qi]

I use a TX200 and an airmax scope and it’s heavy. It the accuracy is unmatched compared to my other guns and headshots are great ways to make sure game doesn’t run off. Although body shots kill the same, they tend to run more so I prefer headshots so it’s less work finding them. Jim is the man!

[@alfakilla1]

Chachoooooooooooo!! Great info on springer and good hunt as usual Mr. Chapman

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks! Any day out with Chacho is going to be fun. especially with springers and rabbits in the mix.

[@stevelewis7263]

It's nice to have an American shooter that doesn't insist that airguns have to be 100ft/lb to take down a sparrow, but emphasises that ACCURATE shooting is paramount. Here in the U.K we have a saying amongst air rifle hunters, " .177 for feathers .22 for fur". Great video

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks Steve. I like more power as long as it doesn't cost accuracy.... but years of experience in the UK has shown that you don't need it to be a successful hunter. It is fair to note however, we sometimes hunt bigger quarry and sometimes have to reach a bit further over here, so more power helps. But I like to got out with my "legal springers" as well!

[@nathanielcohen9890]

I do all my hunting with airguns from feathers to horns. and at 70, I've never had so much fun. I have the gas piston in my hatsan 125 sniper in .25, and my custom benjamin trail np in .22. both are tack drivers along with the benjamin trail np pistol in .177. with a red dot scope on it and a little trigger work, it's an excellent hunting tool. I don't know when I will use my pcp's

[@americanairgunhunter]

Understand that. Last time I used a centerfire to hunt was S. Africa a few years ago, because I had a broken ankle and couldn't stalk with my air rifle. I keep my firearm collection in the safe down in the basement, and open it once a year for maintenance. Outside of my carry guns, I don't know if I'll ever shoot them again.

[@larrybushman1]

Many thanks for that. I am from the UK and agree with everything you say. Been shooting air rifles for over 65 years, hunting and competition target. Learn to shoot a .22 air rifle well at all ranges in all positions and you are well on the way to becoming a very good rifleman. Thanks again.

[@americanairgunhunter]

I've told the story often, but the UK airgunning scene was key in my picking up the sport back in the late 80''s and 90's, while living in Europe. I picked up the UK Airgunning magazines every month, and I took all that info back to the US when I returned home.

[@ronmcc4]

Hey Jim -- good video. By all means continue this type of info. I use springers myself from time to time. PCPs aren't the only thing out there and those new to the sport may not really be aware of that.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Ron, thanks for the feedback, I've got a lot of ides on topics that I think might be interesting.

[@lowndeswhatley960]

I'm really glad to find this channel and learned a bunch with this (my first )episode. I bought a springer, Benjamin Titan Nitro Piston in .22. many years ago. I tried everything for several years, all kinds of holds, all kinds of pellets, on and on. I couldn't keep them on a deck of cards at 30 ft. Ruined a scope and learned about pinned mounts and BB scopes. Still have it, along with a dozen or so of every other type of air rifle, .177, .22, .25. This thing may be too powerful to be accurate, but I'm going back and give it another try. Thank you for posting this and sharing your hard earned knowledge.

[@americanairgunhunter]

I'm glad you found your way here and welcome!

[@loganturner3895]

The 20 cal,is waning from Air gun industries,I love it!Robert Beeman thanku for your wonderful contributor,to this great,20 cal.thanks

[@americanairgunhunter]

My buddy Chacho is a firm .20 believer, and one of the best springer shots I know.

[@steve6000]

I've noticed you can't find much on .20 anymore. I wonder why?

[@brianbartulis9709]

My '79 Sheridan Blue Streak is still a fun rifle. ~ even though my old eyes struggle with open sights now. ...inspired by my uncle's Beeman in '65 of so.

[@brianbartulis9709]

whups..pumper of course. But I like the .20 pel.

[@loganturner3895]

@@brianbartulis9709 I guess u miss the old beeman pellets??

[@lorenray9479]

Very good presentation! Answered q about body shots. Effective! Not all can hit 1/2 inch at 25 to 40 yds, but easy to hit 1 inch at even 45 to 50 yds. The pellets are the most unpredictable component. A dinged skirt can be missed by us farsighted old folks. I tested magnifier sorted, washed, lubed pellets. The dings make spiral to sporadic flyers. Shoot a white cloud on a sunny day. Sorted follow xhairs for quite a while, but dinged skirts go wild very soon.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks! The optimal kill zone is about the same for head or heart, but you have a bit more latitude with chest. The head moves a lot more, which can make a difference at longer range. All in all, I just don’t think it matters much

[@lorenray9479]

Thanks for responding bro!

[@billabney243]

Great informative video! I loved my springer (Gamo Whisper) at first but after 3 scopes in 10 months I think I'm done. First scope (came with the rifle) lost it's guts. Second and third scope (+$100) broke the stop-pin and started peeling back the dovetail. It's a very accurate rifle but it only has a dovetail for a scope with no open sights.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Man, that is rough. A one piece scope mount can help, but if the dovetails tearing off that won't help. It shouldn't be that bad, I'd ask Gamo about it.

[@SavageAirguns]

Never buy a spinger without iron sights for this reason.

[@gotallmyvaccinesforallknow4949]

Crazy glue works wonders and comes right off with wd40

[@richardtaylor8312]

Excellent demonstration of a rifle type that has stood the test of time, takes me back to my youth. My 40 something Son has recently bought a 22. I’m looking forward to a resurgence, although, rather than me taking him out, he is now taking me. Richard UK.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks!

[@MikesManCave]

Great video, I was thinking of upgrading to a PCP, but keeping my Nitro Piston Springer now .177 1200fps.

[@michaelb.42112]

That's crazy powerful, but is it accurate at that speed ? I know about 900 fps is ideal.

[@randyhardy3692]

@@michaelb.42112 about 900 fps is what your really getting with lead ..my crosman F4 with daisy pointed pellets chronied at 1025 fps

[@jarkoer]

12:58 I completely agree. The very first time I ever held a real gun was when I had to shoot an M4 in the military for qualification... and I scored expert my very first time up. I shot that gun the exact same way I used to shoot my Daisy BB gun as a kid. Perfecting your technique on an air rifle can translate to better technique (and better accuracy) with centerfire weapons. I just got into springers a year ago, and I'm finding that they're one of the hardest guns to shoot (alongside shooting a flintlock which blows a puff of fire and smoke in front of your eyes after you pull the trigger and before the projectile leaves the barrel). But it forces you to really master your technique, and it's a great feeling of accomplishment when your groups shrink to the point where holes are touching other holes.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks for the comment, and I do agree with you, get your springer technique down and you've gained skills that apply to any rifle.

[@alexlexonpanonianshooter]

Excellent video ☺️ I have a BSA COMET EVO in 1.77 call. with gas piston, over than 1000 feet/second. Great accuracy an very fun to shoot, it cames with polymer but stock but I ordered a coustum wooden stock and now it's much better than original. In my country hunting with airguns is not legal so I have to be satisfied with simple target's. All the best from Serbia 👍👍👍

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks, you don't see the BSA guns as much over here, but I've enjoyed those I've shot. In the 80's and 90's I used to work all over (what was then) Yugoslavia, beautiful mountains and coast, really enjoyed it. Hope to get back some day! Enjoy that custom stock!

[@alexlexonpanonianshooter]

@@americanairgunhunter thanks a lot 👍 Yugoslavia was beautiful country but the stupid war destroyed everything, welcome to Serbia anytime 😎😊

[@davidrivero7943]

Love how the mentality of FPS transfered over. I like . 17 cal for economy & accuracy. Cottontails in Fla WMA is where my mod .48 in .25 shines . Defunct Airgun Express sent me one in 2001 , which I'm still using . Velocities in the mid 600 & it's been a thumper on sitting Bunnies.

[@JorgenLarsson]

Nice video! I've been into center-fire, pcp and now I'm back into the spring piston addiction. I love my Weihrauch hw97kt stainless .22. It's a bit on the heavy side but with the tuning kit and a Hawke Airmax it's dead accurate.

[@americanairgunhunter]

That's a nice set up, I think the Weirauch rifles are some of the best, and the Airmax is a nice pairing.

[@jaydee8958]

I have a .177 HW80 (UK regs), and never use a scope, but the thing is brilliant - I agree, springers are just the best, certainly for me.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

For long range, (over 40 yards to 80 yards), I like head shots for humane reasons. If I miss, I will probably hit air or the neck, (which a neck shot would also take the animal down usually), and I would not hit a gut shot and just wound it to get away. Either I hit it, or it runs away while flipping me off. :)

[@carolinalonewolf9445]

Best, most practical video on the subject I have seen. Thank you for helping me make my purchase decision and giving me great tips. Thank you.

[@nicholasmetsovo7058]

I hunt with a spring piston air rifle, and I found this video very helpful. Thanks for all of the work you put into making this.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Hello Nicholas, appreciate that!

[@gregorymckoy3179]

I am using a Gamo Whisper Fusion .22 with Crosman pointed pellets. It has been a great combination for repeatable accuracy on a budget. Thanks for the information on the UTG scopes. I have looked at them online but, wasn't sure how they would hold up. I am currently using the Gamo scope that came with my rifle. I have a friend that has an early Gamo springer he bought in the 1990's. The rifle has destroyed many scopes over the years until manufacturers made improvements in scope design.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

I love the fact that I can shoot 1000 rounds, and not have to pick up one shell casing. :)

[@carsmax]

I love my HW 77´s .177 and .22 in sub 12 fpe because competition and they are better to shoot . My .177 had 18 fpe ! You can imagine how hard and loud this little gun was to shoot ! So I striped it down, both guns are laser beam accurate . Thumb up for the vid !

[@americanairgunhunter]

Tuning your springers down can be a great way to improve accuracy, and makes a lot of sense of competition.

[@bigred7347]

Great review. What are your thoughts on a .25 springer. I have all three calibers.(you covered it,I just watched the whole thing); Thoughts on the Hatson 95 springer?

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks. That's a good question regarding the .25. I might have come across more critical than intended. For a .25 springer to be effective, it needs to be big, heavy, and harder to cock.... which can make it harder to shoot accurately (though some shooters can manage this fine). I think the gains you get in size of wound channel and transfer of energy are not so great for rabbit hunting for instance, as to make me want to carry an extremely heavy rifle over a long distance hike. However I'd rather shoot a raccoon at 30 yards with a 30fpe .25 than a 20 fpe .22, and chances are in that hunting/pest control application, you won't be hiking for miles so the added size/weight wouldn't matter. If I was only going to have one springer, it would be a higher power .22. If I was selecting a second gun and wanted a different caliber, a .25 would be one I considered, because for the type of hunting I do it would make more sense than a .177. I think that a .20 is very interesting if you are limited to 12 fpe, but in the absence of limits it's performance is too close to a .22. As a disclaimer, this is all my personal opinion.

[@bigred7347]

@@americanairgunhunter Great analysis and well spoken, obviously from experience. I value your input. Just subscribed. Thanks again.

[@greg6162]

*This guys got my respect* Hunting with a Hatsan 125 Vortex camo in .22 is no joke! Took mine in the woods for 7/hrs and that sucker weighs 10.5/lbs scoped with a UTG True Hunter IR. But it’s the most powerful .22 break barrel. That thing is a monster when it hits at 28-31/FPE for breaker is impressive. Hasn’t lost it’s zero due to the Weaver/Picatinny rail scope mounts. Dovetail tails are just a PITA and unnecessary these days

[@nickmeinert6255]

Great video lots of great info

[@americanairgunhunter]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mikesrinivas9342]

This is the first of its kind that I've seen in air gun shooting. Very informative and very knowledgeable. I too love springers. Will be happy if you bring out a detailed video on .177 springers. Michael from India. Thanks.

[@andrewsarchus6036]

Fantastic in-depth vid and many thanks for it, Jim. Subscribed. Oh, and thanks also for considering us 12 ft/lb Brits!

[@waughontheworld6530]

Nice for you to refer to us from the uk 👍, I have a BSA Mercury that I got new in 1976 from my friend who worked for BSA, it’s had plenty of rebuilds over the years but at the moment it’s seized, I think the piston seal has resolved and stuck in the cylinder, I now live in Spain and I think the heat has got to it, I’ve shot snakes here when we first moved to Spain, it’s sat on the bench right now waiting to be serviced to deal with a rabbit problem that’s developed recently, service parts have become stupidly expensive though, I used to service it for about £12, it’s now 60 for a full kit

[@steve6000]

Great video, very informative!

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks, appreciate that!

[@southeastairgun2118]

Being that I've watched your Walther Parrus jack hunting video and your video with Chacho using (I believe) the underlever AA and HW97 about 10 times each, I would love to find or see the video where the two of you hunted with 12 FPE spring guns. There is a minute or two in this video, but do you have that whole video available ?? Also, I know Mr. Tom Gaylord has the same opinion on suppressors that you do, but I can tell you without a doubt that moderators do work. They may only take a spring gun gun down from 85 DB to 80 DB, or from 74 DB to 70 DB (real tests I've done), but the main thing it does is take away the "crack" and make the report more like a "thud" that is much less noticeable. Please make us some more springer videos, we do appreciate them all !!!!! Thank you !!!!

[@stevejohnson1797]

Been hunting with both .177 & .22 for 40years and i still cant make my mind up wich is best????

[@jeremyblackwater439]

Because they both rock!

[@marx4325]

I really like your delivery style, your a great communicator and on youtube sometimes thats rare. Lots of people love the sound of their own voice and waffle on without imparting relevant information. I just wanted to say i really enjoyed your concise, insightful and informative well delivered style.

[@snd7622]

That's why I'm very happy with my Weihrauch 97 k .22 and I don't want all this mess with heavy gas bottle and leaking cylinders on PCP 😁 Springer is solid, reliable and will not let me down.

[@liedebunker1253]

Love this video. I've just started to practice shooting off-hand with a Gamo Swarm Maxxim .22. It's not as good as the ones used in the video, but it's good enough for shooting off-hand at 15 yards! I've just got 14,000 pellets for that purpose! Very cheap! And most of all, it's QUIET!!!😁👍

[@americanairgunhunter]

I actually have been shooting the Swarm Magnum and have been impressed.

[@robsonsmith121]

@@americanairgunhunter wat air gun were u using in video

[@nealtressler1661]

Hi Jim... enjoyable video . Last year, I decided to purchase a springer...pcp took over my world, I didn’t think about it. Well, I went back... I bought a Beeman R1 in 20 caliber... lightly used , and pretty accurate. Now, you don’t mention the 20, but I’ve been thinking about hunting with it. It carries a 3-9 Hammers and soon a sling... I’ve found it takes me back to my R9 and RWS 48 days... not a bad thing at all...

[@americanairgunhunter]

Hi Neal, the R1 is a great rifle, I sold mine years ago and still have a bit of regret. The .20 is a solid caliber in a springer, my buddy Chacho swears by it. If I was limited to a 12 fpe gun that would be my first choice. In a more powerful springer it is still a solid choice but there I prefer a .22, if for nothing else availability of ammo.

[@danpaul2989]

6:15 - Is that a Webley & Scott(Beeman) C1 ?

[@americanairgunhunter]

It is, and one I've discussed with Beeman..... He told me that stock is one of the best things he did. I like it so much. I've had a copy stock made to go on one of my PCP. Its one of those love it or hate it things. I've had this gun for almost 30 years.

[@scottdonaldson1973]

You'd be lucky to find one for less than $500 now . I was always tempted to buy one back in the day , I have always been a Webley fan .

[@danpaul2989]

@@scottdonaldson1973 If you keep an eye on Gunbroker.com they come up for auction fairly regularly(4-6 times a year?). $350 is the most I would go, for a real nice one. I have three(Webley/Beeman C1), all from Gunbroker, I would tell you what I got them for, but, I hate being called a liar this early in the morning. Now the Webley(Beeman Kodiak), yes, you're almost certainly looking at a minimum of $500

[@scottdonaldson1973]

Dan Paul, I will have to a look at Gunbroker , I didn't realize that they listed airguns. I did once get a brand new Webley Vulcan mk2 for £30 straight off of the factory floor because my Webley Osprey was beyond repair.

[@danpaul2989]

@@scottdonaldson1973 Are you in the UK? or USA? If UK - check Guntrader.co.uk guns for sale Webley Vulcan MK2 for 30GBP - That a pretty good deal. :))

[@brendacreek9912]

Had a Hatsan for many years. 800+ fps. Iron sights. 177 cal. Fun to plink in the woods. Great squirrel gun. I have 5 air rifles. 2 are 22 and 3 are 177. Only one has a wood stick. Hatsan. 4 are springers and one piston. 4 are made by Gamo. All the Gamo models have scopes. I keep the ready in case I should ever need to hunt for food and I need to be quiet. Great video.

[@jamesquigley8628]

Jim thanks for a well done article as usual. I would like a 30 cal gas spring gun. Who makes them currently? Be Well.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Hatsan Carnivore is the one that comes to mind. Mine is a mechanical spring and was the first into the country. HatsanUSA decided to only import the Gas Piston, and in fact that might be the only one in production.

[@jamesquigley8628]

@@americanairgunhunter Thanks you Sir. Be Well.

[@pedrocruz2649]

I bought mine in Amazon 30 cal ,

[@thisolddog2259]

I have the hatsan mod 130 and it's alot of fun but it's very heavy to cary however shouldering isn't to bad because of how it's balanced

[@brianquigley7336]

Quigley down under !

[@rcmakingtracks18]

Excellent, thank you. Liked and subscribed. John, in the uk

[@tiksgarmsvlog1562]

Nice one sir godbles

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks much!

[@deansmith9232]

Great article new subscriber here I have a 22 webley Vulcan used to use on pigeon and squirrel in uk now it’s in Arizona unused for 20 years mint condition! But ready to roll!

[@lensman5762]

I love springers, despite having a collection of premium German and English PCPs. My best shooting was with an Air Arms Pro Sport in Custom stock. I manged to literally one hole twelve .177 pellets @ 25 yards. Having said that, I believe the best air gun spec for a springer is a .22 caliber with around 20 ft.lbs of muzzle energy. I know that we have to put up with the sub 12 law in the UK, but in all honesty I believe that they have to review this silly willy nilly law ( will never happen ). I consider a sub 12 ft.lbs, .22 caliber airgun well underpowered for hunting beyond 25~30 yards. A very well presented video and to the point. Thank you.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it. That Pro Sport might be the next springer I buy. I have hunted with one belonging to a friend, and really like it. Your springer spec certainly hits the sweet spot. I write for one of the British Airgun magazines (Airgunner) so keep up with what’s going on in the UK, I don’t think they will change the law either....... at least you have the FAC route unlike some countries!

[@frankbollotino2270]

Jim everything you showed is the essence of air rifle hunting . I every one should be able hunt the they , but shooting 100 to 200 yards you loose the fun of air guns . For me at least I like the 20 to 40 shooting because you have to get close . Jim I enjoyed the facts and presentation , good job as usual !

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks Frank! I agree, for me it's all about the hunt. The closer you get, the more skill (and or patience) it takes.

[@davidbenjamin3110]

Love springers and the old pump guns like the Benjamin I had as a kid.

[@sap3055]

I absolutely love my air arms pro sport fac 22 cal with the walnut stock it's such a beautiful accurate and reliable air rifle

[@americanairgunhunter]

That is a nice gun!

[@jimcowley330]

Hi I think the main reason guys like springers is that it was our first gun when we were teen-agers great video Jim UK.

[@americanairgunhunter]

Hi Jim, there is certainly a bit of nostalgia there! Though for most guys in the US it is probably the multi-pump Sheridan and Benjimen rifles that take us back. We would see springer now and again, but they were not common.

[@dustinh4175]

I love my gamo swarm magnum. The stupid repeater system sucks so i removed it and now its a tack driver. Literally half inch groups at 30 yards and maybe an inch drop at 75 yards

[@efrey1911]

How about #7: You can hunt with a spring piston (or pcp) in areas that you wouldn’t be able to use a powder burner rifle, even a rimfire, like around farms or suburban areas where homes may be close by. Heck, I shoot mine on my property every week while taking care of pests and my neighbors have no idea what I’m doing!

[@Alex462047]

One thing we have in my country for magnum and super-magnum piston rifles are monoblock shock absorbing scope mounts (dedicated air gun scopes are expensive). The Hatsan 125 is king of piston rifles here, very popular, but the only way to get it in a calibre larger than .177 is by ordering a barrel from a local manufacturer (Hatsan doesn't import those larger calibre barrels here). We replace the steel springs with gas pistons for reliability and consistency.

[@MrStensnask]

This was genuinely helpful. I'm currently putting together a "when the shit hits the fan" kit that, incidentally, also serves as an all round great camper/hiker survival kit. To round it off I need a highly reliable hunting tool for small game and I couldn't think of anything better than an air rifle in 4,5 mm/cal.177 because it's - as you also said in your great video - incredibly reliable, cheap to get and cheap to run. I still haven't decided what gun I'm gonna get. I think I'd really like a gun with Quietfire / Nitro Piston technology because it's so quiet and easy on the gun. Can you recommend a gun with that at around 360$?

[@leftymadrid]

I've tried many springers, found I could hunt small game with a 1.77 caliber. But most importantly shooting "quality Springers" is a ton of fun! The repeatability of good shot placement is a tad difficult at first, but once you master these hold sensitive air rifles, they WILL put a huge smile on your face. My favorite is the under lever Springer, the HW97k, a German made, in 1.77 caliber. Dressed with a Vantage Hawke 6-24x44 scope. I have mine tuned at (720-fps) with a JSB 10.34gr which equals to (12-pfe). Also loves, the JSB 7.87gr and the 8.44gr. And yes, shot placement is everything! I found that 12-15-fpe rifles are more than enough to dispatch small game, usually up to 50-60 yards... I've also had many expensive pcp air guns as well. The one and only pcp air rifle I use now is a tweaked/very tuned S200AA in 1.77 caliber as well, dressed with an Element Optics Helix scope at 6-24x50 SPF... even up to 100 yards with no wind. Tuned at almost 15-fpe. In the right hands it can be a deadly incredible little sniper of an air rifle!! :-) this little gem is my go-to rifle when hunting small game. Sure I like my Daystate Regal, my Cricket bullpup, and my 510 Air Arms. But NOTHING compares to the accuracy of the S200AA, (which is 1/3 of the price) especially when you tweak and tune one :-)

[@americanairgunhunter]

Thanks, those are some nice guns you have, hope you're getting plenty of field time with them!

[@mikelangelno]

I have a Weihrauch .22 HW35 and a superbly engineered .22 Walther LGV Pro Sport - both as accurate as any PCP when mastered. My PCP is a .22 Mk1 Air Arms S200 - so very accurate I can't see any need to indulge in another PCP as tempting and seductive as many are. Two are set at 11.5 ft/lbs whilst the HW35 is only at 9ft/lbs but kills any pest within range easily. The addition of a Rowan Engineering manual indexing magazine to my AA S200 was worthwhile - the pellets drop into the breech groove well clear of the magazine so there' is no possibility of the mag deforming or shaving the pellet like some auto-feed ones do. Enjoyed and saved your comments onto my computer. cheers, Mike

[@69Harveyb1]

I know this video is "old" but it still rings true. I could almost smell the desert while you were taking those shots. And the breeze coming off that lake... I had a C1... twenty odd years ago. Great little rifle. I think it ran something like 820ish fps? Something about that velocity range allowed airguns to be built to a pleasing weight and balance. Like an old Wischo or something. Great video! Thank you

[@americanairgunhunter]

I was recently going through some guns to sell off and saw my C1 sitting there....... and though "you don't have to worry, you're in the collections until the end!

[@Fatpig-fq3vb]

I think gas rams were the final development for springers i think Theoben even did a opposed twin piston gas ram to cancel out recoil . But i loved the gas ram system as you can dial in less or more power very easily . i had the theoben scirocco in .22 it had a schrieder type valve more air you put in the pokier it got though breaking and cocking the bloody thing was hard work lol . That rifle was a beast though absolute carnage for rabbits etc .

[@milesstover3724]

gas ram infinitely better than springs, springs are terribly outmoded now and they are more failure prone in my experience

[@123edwardzpad]

I would like if you shared more of your thoughts on the 30. springer. Thank you.

[@bobjimenez4464]

Gotta love the accuracy of a precisely machined break barrel air gun. The barrel locating joint and surfaces are nearly perfect to have good accuracy using a receiver mounted scope.

[@americanairgunhunter]

No matter how many pcp rifles I have, will alway go back and enjoy shooting the springers.

[@seeker1432]

Dam your not only a good shot But a good teacher. I agree with all you have said and feel the same. Love the idea of being free to use it anywhere. No bottles and it does take a good amount of skill for a springer. I have done all the methods you use, But just haven't got it altogether as yet. Yep not a great shot, But over here in the UK i don't get enough practice. Unless you have a big enough yard practice is a bit thin. I would hate to make any game suffer and accuracy is important, Think ill have to kill a few more targets before i go for any small game. You are now my favorite air gun channel. Subbed.

[@michaelscottalloway8915]

I have an old break barrel .22 caliber that I have had for over 50 years and I still like it . I also have a new break barrel that is also a .22 caliber that I had bought about 2 or 3 years ago and have not had a chance to try it out yet but it is not a spring but a nitro piston instead .

[@americanairgunhunter]

Some of the old springers are absolutely beautiful, what model do you have?

[@michaelscottalloway8915]

@@americanairgunhunter It is an old Daisy, it says it was made for Daisy in Scotland and the number on it is 250