Amish members arrive for beard-cutting re-sentencing in federal court

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cleveland.com

cleveland.com

9 жыл бұрын

Memebrs of the Amish community arrive at the Carl B. Stokes Federal Court House in Cleveland for the re-sentencing hearing of Bishop Sam Mullet and 15 of his followers by U.S. District Judge Dan Polster. An appellate court overturned the 2013 relig

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@huns12345
@huns12345 4 жыл бұрын
How ridiculous can authority get
@rairai3517
@rairai3517 3 жыл бұрын
Don't say that they will take it as a challenge to see how much worse they can be .....
@kretzaloshcki6071
@kretzaloshcki6071 4 жыл бұрын
Being Amish is no excuse for breaking the law!
@Wingnut353
@Wingnut353 3 жыл бұрын
FYI.... he is basically the local leader, if they didn't want to be Amish they don't have to be, but cutting some beards is physically pretty benign and it's complete nonsense that he had to serve years of prison for that. It's effectively the same as putting the major in prison for handing out parking tickets...
@josephcoolest1839
@josephcoolest1839 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wingnut353 yeah but whilee cutting the beard he injured the guy
@barend4803
@barend4803 Жыл бұрын
Law of what !
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 Жыл бұрын
@@barend4803 The land. They're U.S. citizens. They're not above the law just because they're Amish.
@barend4803
@barend4803 Жыл бұрын
@@dalethelander3781 The blacks and immigrants in your country are above the law.
@HappyQuailsLC
@HappyQuailsLC 5 жыл бұрын
Re-sentencing? Never knew such a thing exists.
@followerofjulian1652
@followerofjulian1652 3 жыл бұрын
America's answer to the Taliban! 🤣🤣🤣
@milkeywhey2998
@milkeywhey2998 3 жыл бұрын
Taliban as those who want to control people's way of life and thoughts are closer to all that american leftist zoo
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 3 жыл бұрын
Govt is the problem
@Nykrel
@Nykrel 4 жыл бұрын
He held the door open for everyone
@kellyjeffries8953
@kellyjeffries8953 4 жыл бұрын
but he almost closed it on the black man
@Nykrel
@Nykrel 4 жыл бұрын
Would you show as much consideration as he did? I think he showed some good qualities.
@ryaneye6347
@ryaneye6347 2 жыл бұрын
He literally wanted to close it on the last, non-cliqued up guy
@ryaneye6347
@ryaneye6347 2 жыл бұрын
Gang shit
@j.s.3893
@j.s.3893 3 ай бұрын
​@@kellyjeffries8953 I think he just didn't see the man at first.
@2legit758
@2legit758 Жыл бұрын
They should get RICO charges
@jpnphom5470
@jpnphom5470 3 жыл бұрын
Amish guy almost let the door go when the guy with the walker entered...
@petermalin1998
@petermalin1998 3 жыл бұрын
Never in my life have I seen such hardened criminals !
@rairai3517
@rairai3517 3 жыл бұрын
LOL....
@rtauzin64
@rtauzin64 3 жыл бұрын
I bet personal responsibility is a big deal in their religion. Well......
@barend4803
@barend4803 Жыл бұрын
What ?
@barend4803
@barend4803 Жыл бұрын
You are not well
@selfesteem3447
@selfesteem3447 Жыл бұрын
Oh trust me, they are. There's a lot about the Amish community you don't know until you do your homework. On Eli Yoder's Channel he interviews X members of the community who testify to children as young as 6 month old and 9 months old being raped. And when people found out about it good people, tried to do something about it they were punished.
@nosnehpets1
@nosnehpets1 3 жыл бұрын
This is RIDICULOUS! , just make them cut off there beards and hair In return. put them on record never to do it again and repent for there mistakes in there faith, pay compensation . Surely that will be a cheaper for the tax payers.
@AnnaLVajda
@AnnaLVajda 5 жыл бұрын
Government probably just hates them because they don't pay for gasoline or hydro. What is the charge anyway bad barbering ?
@hamo4547
@hamo4547 4 жыл бұрын
Voracious Reader ok boomer
@assholebyginger
@assholebyginger 4 жыл бұрын
They did hate crimes 💀
@AeroZeppelin-rb4pt
@AeroZeppelin-rb4pt 4 жыл бұрын
@@assholebyginger nice accusation but what did they do just generally saying hate crimes means nothing
@joeydehart3429
@joeydehart3429 3 жыл бұрын
@@AeroZeppelin-rb4pt They kidnapped people held them against their will and shaved their beards and cut their hair. They did this because in the Amish community beards are a status symbol because after marriage they have rules not to cut their beards.
@barend4803
@barend4803 Жыл бұрын
So true !
@Bentriverrusher
@Bentriverrusher 3 жыл бұрын
When they say they want a simple life they mean the whole enchilada of simple dimple. Going into someone's home and assaulting them and cutting their hair is short horse cart simple.
@showdown7776
@showdown7776 5 жыл бұрын
Assault and battery is not in keeping with Amish pacificist values. These idiots did wrong But to send them to PRI on is a stretch....They should have been given fines and public service. They acted like gangsters but they are not really gangsters and of no danger to the general public. The ones abused should get the fines paid by the abusers and be consulted as to the appropriate communiity service. And maybe the abusers need to see the barber too. That would serve them right.
@jackiebrangard6797
@jackiebrangard6797 5 жыл бұрын
The first attack happened in Sept, 2011. This was reported internally. After multiple attacks police were notified as the Bishops felt they could not handle the situation and were afraid others would be targeted. Even after the police were notified and investigations followed, the Bergholz Clan (lead by Mullet) continued the attacks. That is when the FBI was called and the hate crime was attached. The cutting of an Amish man's beard, or a married woman's hair, is against their scriptures. It basically cheapens them in the eyes of God and their communities. That is why it was considered a hate crime. Sixteen men and women held down these people and violently hacked off the most distinguishing outward characteristic of their faith. In total there were 5 attacks spanning a month. For the victims to step forward was incredibly brave and opened themselves up to further ridicule from the Amish community, as generally issues are handled internally. That alone shows how devastating this crime was to them. Just because the number of people affected by this group was small does not mean that they do not deserve justice. Those arrested were thugs and yes, they deserve prison.
@bradleykovach8857
@bradleykovach8857 4 жыл бұрын
They need to make a prison for Amish
@ekundayowt
@ekundayowt 3 жыл бұрын
They live in the USA and are governed by the law of that land. I am not American and that live there
@richardcabesa8296
@richardcabesa8296 3 жыл бұрын
Circus is in town.
@ThunderAppeal
@ThunderAppeal 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the police there have nothing better to do than to jail what is practically a family dispute of victimless crimes.
@SaxonSuccess
@SaxonSuccess 3 жыл бұрын
Victimless crimes? Really?
@selfesteem3447
@selfesteem3447 Жыл бұрын
If you want to get the details of what's really happened with this, mullet's daughter who was also jailed, she was a victim of mullet her father, she's interviewed by Eli Yoder on Eli Yoder's KZbin channel. Mullet is horrible, he would tell the women in his religious community that if they wanted to be closer to God that he needed to sleep with him, some of these were married women. He's currently married to his niece. He would put his wife in the chicken coop. He basically dumped his wife for his niece, I'll let you hear it from his daughter on Eli's channel. So much more to it than this. Mullet was released from his prison sentence early much too early, after covid. Because of covid.
@socio-economicnewsnetwork4740
@socio-economicnewsnetwork4740 Жыл бұрын
Bro they are my neighborhood, don't lie. It was an family dispute matter of property which became very ugly and with false accusations. We know that because we live there in the same neighborhood. The sleeping stuff is an pure lie, the mullet brother who came from outside amish community started the fight first which resulted into beard and Tonsuring of women's head. This lead to false accusations. It all happened in front of us
@onawildwhim
@onawildwhim 3 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that several of them admitted that what they did was wrong, but all the older guys still have their beards.... I think that's called.... "Hypocritical"?.
@OldDunollieman
@OldDunollieman 3 жыл бұрын
Moronic comment. The beards were cut to punish the allleged offenders why would those administering the punishment cut their own beards off?
@AlmaVasquezjr
@AlmaVasquezjr 3 жыл бұрын
Jail would be a treat, running water, in door plumbing, tv, electricity, no wood to chop, no water to haul, someone else fixed the roof, temperature control, air conditioning, central heating, jail will be a treat. Just sit around and talk all day. Play card games.
@ZA-lc4zi
@ZA-lc4zi 6 күн бұрын
jail is never a treat for anyone
@roxweinzel7436
@roxweinzel7436 Жыл бұрын
Such gentlemen. Let that woman walk in last.
@andrewfurie5647
@andrewfurie5647 Жыл бұрын
The women are herding them. 😊
@mexlplx7304
@mexlplx7304 3 жыл бұрын
Leave these people alone!
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 Жыл бұрын
Their own people filed the charges.
@KevinCummingsFitness
@KevinCummingsFitness 4 жыл бұрын
Leave them alone
@barend4803
@barend4803 Жыл бұрын
I agree !
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 Жыл бұрын
Members of that community filed the charges against Mullet. They're U.S. citizens and NOT above the law of the land.
@deborahallen3318
@deborahallen3318 3 жыл бұрын
Leave them to settle their own problems! On the other hand, the community would benefit from a trained hair stylist! 😆
@joeydehart3429
@joeydehart3429 3 жыл бұрын
I think the title is misleading. They kidnapped people and in some cases they reported that Mullet was raping women to "teach them a lesson" and he was cutting the beards of men who disagreed with him. Also these are not just Amish from his group he was taking people from other groups that didn't worship or believe as he did to assault them.
@temsedgwick9494
@temsedgwick9494 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe the rape charges were ever formally brought. Difficult to determine how much weight to give those reports... 15 years is a lot for what they did, imo
@bonejam8231
@bonejam8231 3 жыл бұрын
Sexual abuse is rampant among the amish. Bestiality also.
@temsedgwick9494
@temsedgwick9494 3 жыл бұрын
@@bonejam8231 That may be true. However, the court of law applies to individuals misconduct, not group behaviors. If THESE men engaged in sexual abuse, they should stand trial for it. I’m not aware of that being the case...
@bonejam8231
@bonejam8231 3 жыл бұрын
@@temsedgwick9494 your comment doesnt make any sense, but I hope you get all the attention you seek
@temsedgwick9494
@temsedgwick9494 3 жыл бұрын
@@bonejam8231 Thanks. For future reference, are random, non confrontational, posts on 7 year old videos generally a good way to get attention, in your experience?
@boqorkaumada9562
@boqorkaumada9562 5 жыл бұрын
Government crazy 😜
@barbaraedwards3715
@barbaraedwards3715 4 жыл бұрын
Goverment messing with simple people reason we need to revolt
@auti34
@auti34 3 жыл бұрын
Barbara Edwards I think they shouldn’t be above the law
@AlmaVasquezjr
@AlmaVasquezjr 3 жыл бұрын
Revolutionary will be put in prison. USA is not playing around. Expect the fbi to find you.
@shellierodarmel7282
@shellierodarmel7282 4 жыл бұрын
How do you go to jail for cutting a beard off these people are different than us you cannot send these people to jail for hair cutting omg!
@randygiles3456
@randygiles3456 3 жыл бұрын
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE BEING ATTACKED AND YOUR HAIR SHAVED?
@joeydehart3429
@joeydehart3429 3 жыл бұрын
They kidnapped people and cut their hair against their will.
@rairai3517
@rairai3517 3 жыл бұрын
During the height of covid I could have used a barber ... someone show some common sense hair grows back , the hair cutting and beard cutting was to embarrass them , an attack is different that may be needing to be answered in court , bruises , broken bones ect ....
@tonyhogg9839
@tonyhogg9839 3 жыл бұрын
Those who were attacked have every right to go to the government and file charges just like all those of us who aren't Amish. They are after all US citizens as well.
@timdaugherty5921
@timdaugherty5921 3 жыл бұрын
To the tower!!
@1948tedebear
@1948tedebear 5 жыл бұрын
Scissors gate, we send them to prison for cutting beards, but 1st. time drug dealers with small quantities walk, or tax evaders like Al Sharpton are still free and spewing hate. Stupid me, I need to go back to grade school & take a beginner math course as it doesn't add up!
4 жыл бұрын
We need to get these god damn tyrant communist bastards out of power.
@Wingnut353
@Wingnut353 3 жыл бұрын
@z It was definitely not a "hate crime" however... more of a public shaming. It also wasn't discrimination you dope... they are of the same religion. the only thing you migth have on them is assault... with attempt to cut beards.
@AlmaVasquezjr
@AlmaVasquezjr 3 жыл бұрын
End the war on drugs. Legalize drugs means fewer overdoses and medical research and addicts can get medical care they need to manage their addiction. Legalize drugs increases tax revenue and lowers taxes.
@rairai3517
@rairai3517 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wingnut353 my point too ....
@richardcabesa8296
@richardcabesa8296 3 жыл бұрын
assault and battery, burglary, false imprisonment. good times.
@marciabowers55
@marciabowers55 3 жыл бұрын
Leave the Amish alone ...
@barend4803
@barend4803 Жыл бұрын
I agree !
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 Жыл бұрын
The Amish people of this community got the police involved. He raped the women, he needs to pay. They're U.S. citizens, they have to abide by the law of the land.
@tigersteele9552
@tigersteele9552 5 жыл бұрын
THIS IS AN ..AMISH MATTER...NOT U.S. GOVERNMENT!! UNLESS ...AS IT HAS BEEN STATED....THE LEADER OF THIS SECT.....IS ACTUALLY A CULT LEADER!!!
@legendaryskulls337
@legendaryskulls337 5 жыл бұрын
Tiger Steele okay then next time English folds break a law the govt should stay out of that to your a jackass
@tigern_i_f_rimeri6069
@tigern_i_f_rimeri6069 4 жыл бұрын
NO IT IS NOT AN AMISH MATTER...IT IS AN COUNTRY MATTER...IF I WOULD FOLLOW YOUR IDIOTY THAN WE CAN ALSO SAY A BAD MUSLIM IS A MUSLIM MATTER...
@kretzaloshcki6071
@kretzaloshcki6071 4 жыл бұрын
Still, religion and culture are not valid excuses for breaking the laws of the country!
@Alan-jb3hg
@Alan-jb3hg 5 жыл бұрын
Car can't stop from hiting but what about pedestrian for cyclists can't figure out why they don't want it there work out a compromise
@legendaryskulls337
@legendaryskulls337 5 жыл бұрын
Alan u drunk texting
@legendaryskulls337
@legendaryskulls337 5 жыл бұрын
Going to jail for cutting a dirty old beard give me A fucking break
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 Жыл бұрын
And raping women.
4 жыл бұрын
They best be storing up firearms for the civil war.
@AeroZeppelin-rb4pt
@AeroZeppelin-rb4pt 4 жыл бұрын
You need to quit smoking them drugs
@coco_vs_earf9671
@coco_vs_earf9671 4 жыл бұрын
WhAt did they do wrong
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 Жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the video?
@shirleykoskela6723
@shirleykoskela6723 4 жыл бұрын
U all need to do your home work I thought the same thing but I was very wrong
@barend4803
@barend4803 Жыл бұрын
God's judgement will come on your government !
@Alan-jb3hg
@Alan-jb3hg 5 жыл бұрын
Leave these people alone they aren't bothering you quit be a big bulling
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 Жыл бұрын
The people of this Amish community got the police involved. Just because they're Amish doesn't mean they're above the law.
@mariethompson3745
@mariethompson3745 5 жыл бұрын
Are they really Amish; didn't they allowed pictures taken of their faces.
@82McKinley
@82McKinley 3 жыл бұрын
Well you're somewhat correct here, they don't like or appreciate having their pictures or video taken. This video just shows the lack of respect by this news source.
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 Жыл бұрын
If they're Mennonite Amish, graven images don't bother them.
@deanguando1335
@deanguando1335 5 жыл бұрын
What a joke.
@jamesmoreland3070
@jamesmoreland3070 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they will get the same treatment that they incur on their children and horses
@bonejam8231
@bonejam8231 3 жыл бұрын
Prison rape.
@tigersteele9552
@tigersteele9552 5 жыл бұрын
THE AMISH CAME TO OUR GOVERNMENT!!! AS A HATE CRIME.....OUR GOVERNMENT PROSECUTED THE CASE!!!!
@johnbolan7094
@johnbolan7094 3 жыл бұрын
Creepy people.
@rogerber1860
@rogerber1860 2 жыл бұрын
picking on the good ----- only in amerika
@Fre3brd
@Fre3brd 5 жыл бұрын
Leave the Amish alone to their beliefs.
@mauryballstein8863
@mauryballstein8863 Жыл бұрын
Lmao yeah to raping family members and children.. don’t forget animals.
@pennydavis476
@pennydavis476 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone watch dr Phil? The show was about the abuse of the Amish kids, my heart sunk for these kids.
@gerryd9606
@gerryd9606 3 жыл бұрын
What were they doing to the kids? Performing ritual genital mutilation (circumcision) on them? The federal courts are nothing but a fraud and should be going after the religion of "little hats" instead of the Amish.
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 Жыл бұрын
@@gerryd9606 The Amish people in this community got the police involved.
@shellierodarmel7282
@shellierodarmel7282 4 жыл бұрын
Its not a hate crime but there ruthless in there beliefs
@82McKinley
@82McKinley 3 жыл бұрын
Your spelling is ruthless as well.
@pennyzufall4148
@pennyzufall4148 6 жыл бұрын
x
@vitalgarza9853
@vitalgarza9853 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the charge was some kind of assault. I used to live in Reno, and this couple were arguing on the river walk. The guy snatched the girl's cell phone from her hand, and threw it in the water. He was charged with domestic battery. Maybe it was something along those lines.
@MzClementine
@MzClementine 5 жыл бұрын
Aw. I feel bad for them. I don’t think what they did was wrong. It’s part of their religion and their rules. A beard and hair is a sign of their faith to god, and their title of head of a house. Shame on the Judges. They should not have been involved. Bless them.
@barend4803
@barend4803 Жыл бұрын
Shame on the judges. The wheel will turn !
@ddivincenzo1194
@ddivincenzo1194 Жыл бұрын
Purposefully cutting a person's hair and beard against theur will is assault and battery.
@JCSol
@JCSol 3 жыл бұрын
A big miscarriage of justice. They deserved to go to prison. All of them.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 3 жыл бұрын
Govt. is the problem
@barend4803
@barend4803 Жыл бұрын
Goverment interferes where they should not ! Go catch the looting and destroying hordes elsewhere in your country !
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 Жыл бұрын
The members of this community got the police involved.
@royaloakruthdunn4937
@royaloakruthdunn4937 5 жыл бұрын
Leave them alone
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 Жыл бұрын
The members of this community got the police involved.
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