An Intricate $180 Beauty! | The Sugess Moonphase Master

[@johndesmond1987]

I have had one of these for about three years ago, and it has remained accurate and reliable. A really excellent buy.

[@gie5669]

Still working...? Have mine around 7 month and still in love with it

[@johndesmond1987]

@@gie5669 Well, shortly after posting this note, the chrono failed. The little tab that the reset pusher bears on broke off. I am trying to source a replacement part from Sugess, but their customer service needs some work.

[@johndesmond1987]

No hope of getting replacement parts from Sugess, but the failure was my own fault. I must have bashed the reset button into something, as that is the only way this particular part could have failed. Movements are cheap, so I bought one on AliExpress and cannibalized it to get the broken reset pusher part. This watch is a very good buy at this price.

[@Aztec1050]

@@johndesmond1987 Seiko is better in every way at this price point. You can buy one of the finest high torque 7 jewel seiko quartz watch for the same amount, it will run without problem for 50 years

[@photopete7903]

Just bought one. Moonphase set button broke after pressing it 15 times. Chronograph broke after starting and stopping it 7 times. Rubbish quality.

[@jaredmcclelland1368]

Very nice cinematography! I think it's important for a brand like Sugess to exist, even though their watches aren't as good the Swiss counterparts, they really show how much Swiss watch companies overcharge for their products.

[@Tone_SA]

Well said!

[@biBip-gu8yt]

​@@Tone_SA you do realise that A.L.S. and Glashütte are NOT swiss brands and they DO NOT have swiss movements? 🤷‍♂️

[@Tone_SA]

Yes, I do, may have just said it wrongly. Lange is a grail brand for me, and is one of the brands I've invested a lot of my time into learning about. They are at the forefront of complicated watchmaking, up there with Patek. Glashutte, to me, is like a more affordable version of Lange. Though sadly, it's very clearly not as popular. I also like Nomos.

[@biBip-gu8yt]

@@Tone_SA yeah, Zeitwerk is my favorite watch, there's really nothing like it out there

[@Niobium23]

Finally!!! A solid review!!! Impartiality is much appreciated! These watches are excellent quality and value. Terrific review!

[@Tone_SA]

Thank you

[@Touyoujin]

Got this a year ago with the white dial and markers instead of roman numeral printing. It's indeed a stunning piece beyond my expectation for the price i paid. It could easily rival Orient or Seiko given it's quality and asking price. Still in honeymoon with it and the movement never fail to amaze me. The only concern would be how should it be serviced after a couple of years.

[@Tone_SA]

Bring it to a local watchmaker I guess, its not too difficult for a full service, but may cost up to 100 to 150 dollars

[@李偉論]

Buy a new one it cost less than servicing

[@zaid-zh3rn]

You have a great channel, and you're one of the few who reviews watches anyone could afford so keep doing what you're doing!

[@Tone_SA]

Thank you!

[@AtheistOrphan]

Nice review and great macro shots. I’ve been toying with the idea of treating myself to one of these for Christmas, and am going to buy one with a white dial and pay a little extra for the swan neck regulator.

[@Tone_SA]

The swan neck is great, further into collecting I may have to get myself a timegrapher, and the swan neck just makes regulation much easier.

[@AtheistOrphan]

@@Tone_SA - Thanks for the reply Tone. I’ve just ordered one. With discounts and vouchers the swan-neck only cost a tenner extra. I’ve put a ‘Wishi’ Timegrapher on my Amazon wish list, but can’t quite justify the expense at the moment.

[@manuelladrondeguevara6926]

Hey there! I’m just thinking about buying myself this watch as a birthday gift. How is the watch still doing after a few months?

[@Tone_SA]

@@manuelladrondeguevara6926 Apologies for not seeing your reply, It still functions really well, i have no issues with it as of yet.

[@OriqinLCinema]

Just after ordering my first watch I saw this, looks like a collection is going to have to begin

[@renebense]

I bought this watch just a few days ago, so I don't have it yet, it's on it's way. Bought the Sugess Blancpain Air Command homage a month ago, and that watch was so good and good looking, that made me pull the trigger on this one as well. I think Sugess has a great build quality. You can feel it handling the watch. It is very hard to describe and review. I think your channel deserves far more viewers, because the detail of the Macro footage is stunning and the review is unbiased and to the point. Keep up the good work.

[@Tone_SA]

Thank you very much

[@iluvj00]

Very watchfinder-esque. Watchfinder for the working man. I like it

[@Tone_SA]

Thank you!

[@1959Berre]

Roman numerals are always a bit confusing. I like the 4 to be IV, like it is on the dial of Big Ben in Londen. To align the numerals vertically instead of radially is another way of improving readability.

[@Tone_SA]

Agreed

[@stevedegaetano8188]

Seriously? I can read a watch with dots for numerals. Roman numerals aren’t confusing if you know how to tell time on an analog clock.

[@angelbeast8863]

New watch channel! Great job buddy. 👏🏽 glad to join. Before you get to 100 subs and beyond!

[@Tone_SA]

Thank you

[@senny_penny]

Very nice shots! Have this watch in my favourite for a few years. There is a controversial information on different forums including Watchuseek about the movement used. Whether original Seagull it is or not. Or what kind of grade of quality there.

[@Tone_SA]

Yep I see those forums too, if it is ingenuine, it seems alright still, not alot of sugess watches have issues, even a year or 2 into use, mine is still running well a year in.

[@DishantKothia]

I feel like the crystal I have on my watch is a bit a dull and smudgy

[@Woodyt]

Well done review. Is there anyway to take the back off should it need to be regulated?

[@Tone_SA]

It is held on by screws.

[@petert3412]

Very good review, thanks

[@Tone_SA]

Thank you

[@manuelladrondeguevara6926]

It’s awesome that you speak of this brands!! I’m thinking of buying this same model but it has been really difficult to find information/videos about how reliable the movement is. Just to know, how’s the watch doing after a couple of months that you have gotten it??? Regards!

[@Tone_SA]

Still functions well, no issues with it at all.

[@cormacbrissett8547]

I have not been able to find the sterile dial version that you reviewed - they all have "Sugess" somewhere on the dial.

[@Tone_SA]

They might have discontinued it. You can try asking the store themselves maybe. When I bought mine I actually asked them as at first I wanted a logo (they were all sterile at the time), then changed my mind.

[@immortal4942]

i really want to order this but the 31 1 date and big size really ticks me off. otherwise it looks like a perfect chronograph specially for the $

[@Tone_SA]

ye unfortunately a good amount of 4 subdial watches in this price range all share a similar font, hopefully there is one that fits your needs

[@aarinisles]

Does the moon phase advance automatically or do you have to advance it with the setting button? I got a “chronograph” in this price range, knowing it was a gamble, and some of the functions have to be set manually every day. I’m just amazed I can get a piece of machinery like this for the price even if things don’t function as they should.

[@reginaldbowls7180]

Oh course. This is no lobinni.

[@Tone_SA]

The moonphase needs setting to the right phase, but does move according to date.

[@aarinisles]

@@Tone_SA Yes, thanks for the reply.

[@treehugger3615]

How long have you kept the movement running? Imo, for the moonphase to be somewhat useful, you would need to keep it running for a least a month, I mean what fun is having to set the moonphase every 2 days right?

[@Tone_SA]

I wind it every few days, and keep the time by just setting the time forward after the watch stops

[@stevefarmer15]

Great video, nicely presented with some great shots of that movement. Subscribed. Not keen on the background music though. Not sure I would get one of these, but I have the 1963 re issue 38mm with acrylic in my collection, they are fantastic watches for the price, and have a history behind them. Regards from France.

[@Tone_SA]

Ah, the 1963 is a very nice watch, at the time I was between this that and the sugess one, but chose this at the end

[@senny_penny]

Still own them? How it works and how often do you wear it?

[@Tone_SA]

I wear it once or twice a week now, still functions well, not much error a day

[@fabfour289]

Hi.. tks for the excellent review vid. Do you still own it? How abt time keeping accuracy per day after 1 yr+ ownership? Big thanks..

[@Tone_SA]

I do still own it, accuracy is under 10 seconds a day still for the most part

[@benmutair]

Hi I really like the video and I have to ask you how far is the watch with you as I'm planning to get one as well

[@Tone_SA]

Still with me, been a year, still working well.

[@zegui3653]

Do you prefer the model with or without the Surgess logo?

[@Tone_SA]

I prefer the one without, I feel the Sugess logo they chose on this watch is abit too small to matter too much.

[@msyedx]

wish it was made in 38mm

[@sergiobahr5427]

Anyone have experience re: how much does it cost to service a Sugess watch? I´m eyeing a "glamor master" moonphase, elegant as hell piece, but I´m wary of spending 150 on a watch that´ll require a 500 service cost.. (asking this because I´ve heard seagull movements being very expensive to service)

[@Tone_SA]

Ive heard servicing costs as low as a 100, even some luxury watches cost less than 500 to service if you go to the correct places. 500 is a mad figure.

[@sergiobahr5427]

@@Tone_SA cheers! Thats reassuring, and the watches ARE very nice, tx.

[@yasar8165]

quality videos keep it up

[@Tone_SA]

Thank you!

[@arsalanqureshi3028]

the back of this watch is mineral glass

[@Tone_SA]

Is it? I didnt have the means to test it at the time unfortunately.

[@ernestoschmilblick4896]

Nice watch, but does it work? I bought a sugess 1963 watch and it stop working very quickly

[@Tone_SA]

Mine still works well, never serviced

[@SQueme]

♻ could sell it for parts locally ... it would help people (such as me) doing some repair

[@themalfoy979]

Neither A. Lange und Söhne nor Glashütte Original are swiss btw ... they both are german brands.

[@Tone_SA]

Ah I may have said wrongly then, I am aware of that haha, thank you for correcting!

[@xenwow]

Hey hey, I was planning on buying a watch like this, but I was wondering if the sugess watch website that exists is legit. Is it?

[@Tone_SA]

I'm not too sure about the website, if you can I would recommend getting it from aliexpress, I've got a link in the description where I got mine from.

[@genernicolasjr.6145]

I'm planning on buying this watch, does yours still works?

[@Tone_SA]

Yes, works well

[@senny_penny]

Lug width is 20 or 22mm?

[@Tone_SA]

Its a 22

[@ProCelestialEmpire]

That chronograph minute hand is even an instantly jumping one, with just $180?...

[@Tone_SA]

Yep, its a column wheel chronograph too!

[@reginaldbowls7180]

Power reserve?

[@Tone_SA]

About 2 days+ on mine

[@clarksonboy]

Can you hack the second hand?

[@Tone_SA]

No, unfortunately

[@Dashdonkey]

Crono is 30 min counter not an hour

[@Tone_SA]

Apologies 😅

[@teunpijnenburg927]

where can i buy this watch?

[@Tone_SA]

Check out the link in the description.

[@teunpijnenburg927]

@@Tone_SA thannz!

[@Tone_SA]

@@teunpijnenburg927 No problem, hope you enjoy it as much as I do if not more!

[@teunpijnenburg927]

@@Tone_SA yes well i orded it indead and i loved your video thanks :)

[@Tone_SA]

@@teunpijnenburg927 Thank you so much!

[@willgordon5737]

Chronograph maxes out at 30 minutes

[@Tone_SA]

My bad, you are right

[@PMS1950]

I was initially quite happy with this watch. For the first few months it worked well and was keeping good time. Sadly, this didn't last. First feature to fail was the chronograph, which became intermittent until the start/stop pushers finally gave up the ghost and wouldn't respond at all. Gradually the seconds hand (small sub version) began to work erratically until it and the main movement stopped completely and hasn't worked since. This was so disappointing because initially it offered so much and at such an amazing price The finish looked good and comparable to anything the Swiss could achieve. But in the end it's all a bit skin deep. I may well have been unlucky as other owners seem well contented with their watches and the Seagull chronograph movement has been around for quite a while. At the moment this watch remains in its box, looking quite splendid but actually quite useless.

[@Tone_SA]

Thats sad to hear, very unlucky for you. I think its pretty common for chronographs to fail due to the stress a chrono movement is usually under. Thats the reason why some brands dont recommend overuse of the chrono function. Hopefully, someone will fix it for you for cheap!

[@PMS1950]

@@Tone_SA That's one of the problems with Chinese movements - finding a watchmaker or retail watch business willing to undertake a repair. So far I've been unsuccessful and have tried online as well as discussing with my local retailers. Apparently, the chief problem is obtaining spares even though some of these movements are virtually eta or sellita clones.

[@dn734]

Nice looking watch. Is this company associated with the CCP? If so.., there are lots of nice looking watches out there.

[@Tone_SA]

Well, most companies in China are all associated with the CCP, by law. Their profits do benefit the workers more though.

[@dn734]

@@Tone_SA Did the CCP participate in the designing of watchess, or the 'acquiring' of the watch designs?

[@Tone_SA]

well no I don't think so, its a pretty simple design that a lot of watches in the past have. If you ask about the movement, seagull, bought manufacturing machinery from venus, one of the most popular swiss movement manufactures at the time, and used it to improve their own chronograph movement, the st17

[@oliverlison]

Sorry, that was $180 too much. It is not my taste. I would have saved up money to get swiss watch.

[@Tone_SA]

Go right ahead!

[@samuelmichelsen7196]

Why? These are also very good watches and the movement inside is originally a swiss movement.

[@deevee8220]

Sir...if $180 is above your means, then I don't suggest going with a Swiss watch. Those are even more expensive!