An Unprofessional Guide to Latenna Soloing Malenia

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Snuny

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@izylldus
@izylldus 2 жыл бұрын
I am Malenia, pin cushion of Latenna.
@monolithic7739
@monolithic7739 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing, except "Pin Cushion of Rot" Lmao
@junaag8154
@junaag8154 2 жыл бұрын
i laughed so hard i deleted my save
@TheRedfieldWay
@TheRedfieldWay 2 жыл бұрын
lmao please pin this comment
@quixgofar
@quixgofar 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome 👌
@TheReapersSon
@TheReapersSon 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRedfieldWay I am Regie Dayrit, pinned comment of its always snuny
@bubbajoe117
@bubbajoe117 2 жыл бұрын
Yo the Latenna cheese is one thing entirely but finding out lock on potentially dictates the hyper aggression of some bosses sounds like a huge mechanical discovery
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
It's quite consistent. I just did it in NG+7 with Ohga if you're interested. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpyzfGyhisanqqM
@michaelclark4876
@michaelclark4876 2 жыл бұрын
Just fought Baleful shadow using a deliberate no-look, no-lock approach. He spent most of the time walking slowly towards me. Only rarely lunged., Used rotten breath, weapon art and power stance all aimless to damage. Supposedly he can heal himself repeatedly. I didn't see him do it at all. Maybe it affects how they assess need to heal as well as aggression and dodging.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelclark4876 That's really good data! I expected Baleful Shadow to be in the group of hard-coded dodgers (Lions and Black Knives). But the fact he didn't heal? Very interesting. I'll be posting another video today showcasing this theory.
@pedrootenio4225
@pedrootenio4225 2 жыл бұрын
Works the same way with jar cannon If you tap to shoot while she's off camera and then aim at her, she can't Dodge the Arrow But If you Lock on, she'll Dodge Same concept
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedrootenio4225 I have videos on that too, the first one covering that concept actually.
@chriskelvin248
@chriskelvin248 2 жыл бұрын
"apparently the key to defeating a demi god is just to not look at them"...how many gods has mankind lost because we ignored them to death? Can't say- they have been totally forgotten!
@cybervoid8442
@cybervoid8442 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao this settles it. This is a lore friendly move
@mynameizj1
@mynameizj1 2 жыл бұрын
Any one else here thinking it's distance not the lock or the look. When you walk backwards you are slower and distance is lost. I don't know if any other player do but when I play bosses or even animes you can bait attacks depending on distance and if you are left or right of them
@chriskelvin248
@chriskelvin248 2 жыл бұрын
@@mynameizj1 proximity is the age-old standby in video games for aggro mechanics and I definitely observe that in this game (though there doesn’t seem to be any level-difference-modifier mechanic, which allows for some crazy exploration opportunities). The target-lock aspect? I’m intrigued, but not convinced. But it seemed occasionally noticeable on this boss demo. There are other kinda mysterious mechanics such as sneaking, hiding in a bush and hiding line-of-sight. Why torches and lanterns and noisy buffs in a dark cave don’t give you away is quite odd, lol.
@mynameizj1
@mynameizj1 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriskelvin248 this is true 🤔.. tank you for your reply
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
@@mynameizj1 Distance will affect the agro heavily. The Lock-on for sure affects how she reads projectiles. I tested it with every Archer summon and it's consistent. It's either if you're locked on OR if you're directly facing her will she detect an incoming projectile from another source. This is very clearly shown with Ohga or the Ancestor Follower given how near instant their shots are.
@slicksilver2961
@slicksilver2961 2 жыл бұрын
There’s something amazingly hilarious about the tip: “Don’t look at her”
@kokorochacarero8003
@kokorochacarero8003 2 жыл бұрын
This gave the phrase "the real boss is the camera" an entire new meaning
@kyomugami8383
@kyomugami8383 2 жыл бұрын
So this is why Gideon wanted us to find the Albinauric Woman
@andrewsnyder9148
@andrewsnyder9148 Жыл бұрын
"All you have to do is just not die!" Okay buddy...
@0x0404
@0x0404 2 жыл бұрын
There is that one talisman(Shabriri's Woe), and headgear(Duelist Helm/Rotten Duelist Helm), that make you draw aggro. You might not need to use darts at all.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
It does not work on Ash summons according to the Wiki. Regardless, she doesn't really even go for Latenna once you're far enough. This applies to most bosses that I've seen where just sheer distance prevents Latenna from being targeted. The darts help set-up creating the distance very well though.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
I've made a video about this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH6WloVji61sZ6s
@solidus32
@solidus32 2 жыл бұрын
@@snunpai I thought the same thing with shabriri's woe. Obviously wrong lol. This is good to know! Thanks dude!
@Diamond_2403
@Diamond_2403 4 ай бұрын
Funny how this is legitimately the only time Shabriri's Woe is ever going to be useful 😂
@GenghisGunt
@GenghisGunt 2 ай бұрын
Shabriris woe didn't work at all for me
@JoaoVictor-jd9jj
@JoaoVictor-jd9jj 2 жыл бұрын
5:25 "at this point you just... live" that's deep shit here man, felt in my guts
@prosaicprose254
@prosaicprose254 2 жыл бұрын
I watched a video of Malenia fighting other bosses and wondered why she did so much slow walking (and getting hit/knocked down.) After watching this, realized that this tactic of NOT facing her probably was why she wasn’t more aggressive.
@varski76
@varski76 2 жыл бұрын
Nice catch man
@dr21papi2
@dr21papi2 2 жыл бұрын
BRO i freaking LOVE YOU, i cant thank you enough, after months of torture and countless deletion , you lent me your golden hands and lifted me back up.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad I was able to help!
@lipiningole1381
@lipiningole1381 2 жыл бұрын
Killed her first try in ng+ and died 40 times in ng. Felt so good. still had one health and magic flask left . But it was so satisfying to not get killed by her waterfowl dance .
@freeziboi3249
@freeziboi3249 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect dodging her waterfowl dance is the most badass thing.
@ImWhyMortalsCry
@ImWhyMortalsCry 2 жыл бұрын
I had a really good time against her in ng, but now on ng+ she fucking annoys me. I always have to predict waterfowl which results in both of us not doing anything for 30 seconds. I don't want to approach her because I believe she's gonna do it and Malenia is just edgewalking in a circle because I'm not approaching her. And when I do approach her (or when I'm in the middle of an attack) she gets me with the point blank waterfowl because I have no time to run away. I wish there was a consistent way to dodge it at point blank range. Even better would be an indicator so you know she's doing it so you can prepare. Like Mohg's Trés, Duo, Unus before he does Nihil.
@rumplstiltztinkerstein
@rumplstiltztinkerstein 2 жыл бұрын
I fought her first time with a few teammates and defeated her due to luck and gank damage. But then I tried to help other players and just died over and over again.
@omickronn1021
@omickronn1021 Ай бұрын
I'm 2 years late but thanks for the video man. I'm doing a Summon Only challenge and i was struggling with Malenia's self heal. I tried Latenna before but i completely forgot about this machanic or rather didnt know it applied like this as well. After watching your vid i first tried her so cheers for that
@snunpai
@snunpai Ай бұрын
I appreciate your comment and congrats! It's never too late for comments or Elden Ring, so keep doing your thing!
@richarddunne3689
@richarddunne3689 2 жыл бұрын
Latenna is the best, essential on my RL1 run. Annihilates any boss with a big arena. Took down Mogh RL1 with her, aggro management was a bitch there but doable.
@malekartorian3054
@malekartorian3054 2 жыл бұрын
I love this. Lore wise it fits bc the game seems to be telling you to summon her for the fight with her whole quest. Niice.
@garrick3727
@garrick3727 2 жыл бұрын
That is genius. Now I am wondering whether not looking at the boss is a valid tactic for other bosses. I moved where my lock-on button is because I kept accidentally switching lock off. Since then I noticed that switching lock on and off does make some fights easier, but I never understood why. For example, the erdtree spirits seem to be much easier if you fight them with the lock off. I just thought it was because it was easier to evade them, but thinking about it now they do seem to use a more limited moveset if you are not locked on. Also, I found that when there is an enemy around a corner, if you lock on and go round the corner they are ready for you, but if you do not lock-on you can often catch them out for a free hit. Pretty convinced that looking at a boss or locking on to a boss makes a big difference to their actions. I need to try this out more.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
I'm interested too. I've been testing this on a good number of bosses and it seems pretty consistent. Maliketh has a similar behavior if you look away as well. I'm going to see if it works on the other endgame bosses.
@ulyaoth3579
@ulyaoth3579 2 жыл бұрын
Quick Answer... Yes, Never target your Boss with the Breath attacks like rot breath and watch the magic happen
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
@@ulyaoth3579 Free-Aiming projectiles has always been a technique in Souls games. For example, throwing pyromancy while aiming up extends the distance it can travel and makes hitting enemies you couldn't while locked on possible. I'm glad the breath attacks are included in this list.
@hunterburguillo5891
@hunterburguillo5891 2 жыл бұрын
Will she react or change at all with mist casts? Ex, Poison mist while not locking on her and Latenna shooting?
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
@@hunterburguillo5891 She does react to those locked on. In my Night Maiden's Mist run, I free aimed to the side and she just stayed inside the mist. She will dodge if you lock on and begin the cast. I don't know if Mists draw agro. Feel free to check it out!
@thecasualfly
@thecasualfly 2 жыл бұрын
This mechanic reminds me of O'rin in Sekiro when you get her across the bridge ..if you hit her once in the back she lets you smack her but if you face her she turns to block or attack
@GRXPHICcontent
@GRXPHICcontent 2 жыл бұрын
“hit her once in the back she lets you smack her” that 😌
@wookash8437
@wookash8437 2 жыл бұрын
Can we take a moment to appreciate this flawless watefowl dance dodging. I think to actually start having any conversation, about having fun in defeating her by any method, we have to be able to get this part right like you do. Let alone to walk calmly in front of her, with our backside turned on her 😂
@RJMacReady1
@RJMacReady1 Жыл бұрын
Disregarding waterfowl the fight is actually such a goddamn blast. But that one move just drags it way down.
@bgill7475
@bgill7475 2 ай бұрын
@@RJMacReady1just run away, then roll in, then either roll out or just slowly walk backwards
@kyuubimadara
@kyuubimadara 2 жыл бұрын
*Sees the title* Me: Heh what a noob using summons *Sees him casually dodge the watefowl dance* Me: Dear god...
@DarkSol16
@DarkSol16 2 жыл бұрын
He is using blood bound step though, which does make it fairly easy to dodge. It she fact that it's mainly latenna solo that's impressive.
@ashrunzeda4099
@ashrunzeda4099 2 жыл бұрын
This is the same tactic that I used for most bosses in my strength build playthrough, but instead of using Latenna, I just used the Marionette Soldier Ashes. It's fun watching bosses dance around the map without me doing anything to them. Instead of running after them, I just waited for guard counter chances till they stagger and eventually die.
@jakeryan2805
@jakeryan2805 2 жыл бұрын
Latenna my favorite summon. Bring that waifu to every boss fight. Plop her down, and with that massive range she can hit anything from anywhere. Now give her a wolf in some dlc, and we are set.
@-B-B
@-B-B 2 жыл бұрын
This seems like it would be a good way to learn her move set, and to practice dodging the waterfowl so you are learn to beat her legit. Thanks for posting this.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
You ARE focusing on dodging and she'll actually keep attacking you since she's getting hit by something. It's annoying to wait for her to attack so you can react accordingly otherwise (especially when you want to learn to parry her). The problem is waterfowl tends to be a one mistake death punishment so you can't learn very well otherwise.
@KuonilerariLoufanwald
@KuonilerariLoufanwald 2 жыл бұрын
"Beat her legit" Implying there's a set method to fighting bosses and this is cheating.
@-B-B
@-B-B 2 жыл бұрын
@@KuonilerariLoufanwald I'm not saying it's cheating at all, and maybe "legit" was not the best choice of words, however,. I think we all understand it's one thing to focus all of your attention on dodging without having to take any risk of attacking, verses dodging and being in position to counter attack. There are two very different things, and one is much, much harder than the other. Still, the point of my reply was to acknowledge this could be a good method to learn the movesets, however you want to beat the boss.
@evilneo5331
@evilneo5331 2 жыл бұрын
​@@KuonilerariLoufanwald IKR? These trolls trying to make you play the "legit" way they feel is the one and only and correct. It is MY game and Imma play it how I want 👌🏻
@zero0creativity
@zero0creativity 2 жыл бұрын
@@evilneo5331 imagine not reading the comment above smh my head
@iHaveTheDocuments
@iHaveTheDocuments 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny because much like how some bosses are hard or easy for different ppl, she does great in some fights and lasts about 8 seconds in others. Radagon absolutely cucked her into submission instantly. It looked like a hate crime.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
I do have a video with Latenna soloing him as well. It was actually the most challenging out of everyone. That man and Elden Beast DO NOT like her.
@totallyretrotech
@totallyretrotech 2 жыл бұрын
Always happy to support an authentic channel. Would appreciate the Sunny outlook! hah
@L0reweaver
@L0reweaver 2 жыл бұрын
there s something very satisfying to see her full of arrows ;)
@brosephmyth
@brosephmyth 2 жыл бұрын
Now wait just a minute. Are you telling me she’s less aggressive without locking on?? Further testing is required… 🧐 this could be absolutely game changing!
@sirwootalot
@sirwootalot 4 ай бұрын
Would be cool as hell if it was similar to that one spear that lets you completely melt Rykard into nacho cheese
@divinefoxy1154
@divinefoxy1154 4 ай бұрын
It's always good to check out, more games do this than you think. Lol
@zsDUGGZ
@zsDUGGZ 2 жыл бұрын
If you wanna end this fight quickly on top of cheesing her, equip a greatsword/greataxe/greathammer and put wild strikes on it. You will armor through most attacks and her dodge timings will cause her to dodge into the next strike
@dontforget3113
@dontforget3113 2 жыл бұрын
Father Gascoigne taught me that lesson about no lockon cheesing years ago. Yes, indeed. He taught me many times.
@gumper323
@gumper323 2 жыл бұрын
Your patience is amazing. Great video!
@icephantomi9762
@icephantomi9762 2 жыл бұрын
Summons are really fun, people should use them more。Thanks for showing us the power of Latenna!
@sasaki999pro
@sasaki999pro 2 жыл бұрын
The game would definitely be worse off without them, but it still kinda sucks they're the only thing in the game that give you a breathing window when fighting a boss, because it literally just turns elden ring into a turn based RPG on most non-gank bosses. Do damage, draw aggro, back off, let your spirit deal damage, draw aggro, repeat. it makes the game too easy when I'd just prefer if the boss attacked like 33% less often.
@Rookiepancakes
@Rookiepancakes 2 жыл бұрын
I know that this isn't a true cheese method but it really helped out with my fights with Malenia for the rougher moves, thanks for ending dozens of hours of pain my man.
@Awolfx
@Awolfx 2 жыл бұрын
Quite the innovative idea to use Latenna to pelt Malenia while keeping all of Malenia's aggro on you. Reminds me of how I used Latenna to help me defeat the Mt. Gelmir Magma Wyrm.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
It also works on the Tree Spirit there, the Gargoyle after Sentinels at Lendyll, the Magma Wyrm at Snowfield, and Deathrite Bird at Snowfield. There's more of course but those are at the top of my head.
@addyvarlick6204
@addyvarlick6204 2 жыл бұрын
I used Latenna to beat the void rememberance fucker in the lake of rot & later in the mountain tops of the giants dungeon. tbf that muthuh fucker is hard to dodge and you really gotta draw him more viciously than this it seems.
@btnhstillfire
@btnhstillfire 2 жыл бұрын
Fire giant too.
@krakan4566
@krakan4566 2 жыл бұрын
I should be doing homework right now, but I enjoy this a lot more.
@TheZoobZoobs
@TheZoobZoobs 2 жыл бұрын
A similar strat I once saw was using Ogha since his greatbow knocks her down all the time, i guess you could also add your own greatbow on top of it and keep her far away.
@Joandersonso
@Joandersonso 5 ай бұрын
Latenna best girl so proud 🙏
@dannydesperado9211
@dannydesperado9211 2 жыл бұрын
The only video I can watch at work of a Latenna soloing without having to meet with HR
@MrLightlike78
@MrLightlike78 2 жыл бұрын
This is pretty neat, the mimic and I usually blasphemous blade spam her. Phase 2 when she goes into scarlet aeonia I hit her with ice breath from a distance- rinse and repeat. Ping ponging agro to keep mimic healthy also helps to have a heal in your spell slots as the mimic will use it sometimes.
@chriskelvin248
@chriskelvin248 2 жыл бұрын
Identical to my loadout & strat when I finally overcame this PIA boss. I couldn't succeed using Tyrannicon's cheese oddly enough and went back to defeat her by...just beating her!
@sleven1160
@sleven1160 2 жыл бұрын
Damn all three of us really used the exact same loadout 😂 here I thought I discovered a new strategy when I would knock her down with the blasphemous blade ash of war and hit her with frost breath.
@MrLightlike78
@MrLightlike78 2 жыл бұрын
@@sleven1160 Wriggly sword for the win!...that sounds bad, but you know what I mean XD
@zsoltszalai9546
@zsoltszalai9546 2 жыл бұрын
10 mimic + ice breath were my executioners as well in p2. p1 - rivers of blood katana.
@geist-2111
@geist-2111 2 жыл бұрын
Agony and despair is what i experienced against Malenia, starting by the obvious reactions such as "this is bs" at the healing, "how the fuck can i even survive this" at waterfoul and up to the "i'm done i will never beat this game, my years of glory have ended" I used a single bleed katana, i was out of ideas and not even a bleed build but it seemed to be the most effective way, also any decent shield with barricade just to avoid the stamina drain of waterfoul because i suck at dodging the first wave of hits, no blood hound step or magic (blind run), but alas i learned every single move and timing of her attacks, and eventually beat her in like 50-70 tries i lost count, now she can only get easier in future playthroughs, she has nothing on me now.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
It is very much akin to Sekiro, where once you figure out the patterns and rhythm, you retain that skill. Sekiro bosses unfortunately ALL become nothing once you learn to abuse every single opening. I salute your effort and attrition!
@enryelle
@enryelle 2 жыл бұрын
This is really fascinating. Thanks for making videos like this!
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the interest, thank you as well!
@acidnave
@acidnave 2 жыл бұрын
cool strat, nice video. congratz on algorithm gods, i wish u many many more subs.
@Hkhai47
@Hkhai47 2 жыл бұрын
Dude out here just dodged perfectly through waterfowl dance.
@Jaikenz37
@Jaikenz37 2 жыл бұрын
This definitley good advice for those who want to beat her thanks. Wish I knew this sooner I ll try it on my next run.
@giacomorinaldi8803
@giacomorinaldi8803 2 жыл бұрын
I've just tried this (sl 131, 60 vig, 15 end ). It took me about 5 or 6 tries considering how much more aggressive and mobile phase 2 is, but it's definetely viable if a bit slow. You, sir, are a gentleman and scholar
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
I was intending it to be a showcase of "possible but not optimal". You'd need some decent patience and mandatory dodging skills so I never considered this a cheese. I'm glad it worked out for you though!
@noahhelsee1340
@noahhelsee1340 4 ай бұрын
this guy's vibe is immaculate. "hey just in case you wanted to laugh..."
@UniversalGamerEdye
@UniversalGamerEdye 2 жыл бұрын
Nice method. Glad someone uses my favorite spirits summon.
@nailbombx2311
@nailbombx2311 2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic..Ive used Latenna on a few bosses now, never thought to try her here...Good tactics! ;0
@pepperpeddler
@pepperpeddler 2 жыл бұрын
You are really good at dodging her waterfowl dance so you definitely don't need to do this but certainly entertaining
@Maria_Banks
@Maria_Banks 2 жыл бұрын
No matter what I do, she goes straight for her.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
That would generally be an issue of you not getting agro for long enough to drag her back. It's not enough to put her down and expect it to happen. You gotta keep throwing knives and forcefully bait her away from Latenna until she's too far to agro her.
@WVHillbilly-yw6qv
@WVHillbilly-yw6qv 2 жыл бұрын
Wow lol I literally just done this with her and it works very well especially when Luttena is max level 10. Her arrows seem to really hurt her, malenia did try to aggro towards her a couple times and I almost messed up if I didn't have the aggro talisman on then she would have went full on at her. Shewww the talisman save my ass or hers rather lol. Thanks for sharing 👍👍 Still works like a charm
@hunmg3769
@hunmg3769 2 жыл бұрын
Truly the purest of cheese. It definetly will help many people who are having trouble with her. I remember struggling for over a day and ending up caving and summoning
@_.-_.-_.-_.-_.-_.-_.-
@_.-_.-_.-_.-_.-_.-_.- Жыл бұрын
really good find on her AI this also works if you're just trying to heal, by unlocking off her, she eases off the pressure
@snunpai
@snunpai Жыл бұрын
Her immediate lunge off your healing is the ultimate disrespect.
@aroudingo
@aroudingo 2 жыл бұрын
This is what makes ER so amazing compared to most past souls games.... Way more ways to play around and make fun unique builds. even if it does mean you can let a summon 1v1 a boss, THIS IS WAHT MAKES THIS GAME GOAT
@Karrrai8
@Karrrai8 2 жыл бұрын
lol "aparently the way to kill a god is not looking at him", thanks for the trics because i've already experiment her stupidity by running in " circle " staying at whip range. Easiest P1 for me
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
Dual Whips on Malenia is fantastic. The extra bit of range just turns her brain off.
@Karrrai8
@Karrrai8 2 жыл бұрын
@@snunpai yeah she just walk being stager, as whip have blunt damage(except urumi), and often took a bleed proc! Was my no invoc run and it end to be be the best one
@geist-2111
@geist-2111 2 жыл бұрын
225 subs, your channel has been criminally overlooked, you are putting up top notch content and your production is nice, in case you are not big on Twitch or something just wanted to say keep it up! and wish you luck, you look like a pro already
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
Your words are very kind! Greatly appreciate it and I will continue to try and provide good content.
@dondaileyii
@dondaileyii 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this video a long time ago it feels. I, finally here fighting her and had this in mind the whole time.
@dragonslayer3552
@dragonslayer3552 2 жыл бұрын
Latenna is the best spirit ash cause unlike all the other ashes she doesn't make the bosses spin in constant aggro so you can focus on 1v1 with the boss while she just keeps the pressure and stagger so you know it's actually a fun summon... unlike 90% of the summons "in my opinion at least"... and hey she also waif material
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
She's the best summon aside from Tiche for me. I don't even use Mimic anymore. The consistent damage is arguably better than most summons (like for Elden Beast, she's the only one who can damage him almost anywhere he is). She's not meant to draw agro (obviously), but I prefer agro on me for most action RPG's anyway. It makes it easier to tell what bosses are doing and you don't get caught by them suddenly switching agro on to you.
@dragonslayer3552
@dragonslayer3552 2 жыл бұрын
@@snunpai I hate tiche and mimic personally they are far too op to be fun to the point they make the game boring while latenna just supports and rewards you for playing well and keeping agro as opposed to all spirits that draw agro and have you stay back like your some side character XD
@mattomwit
@mattomwit 2 жыл бұрын
I think you can use a rune for invaders it boosts summons apparently. Not sure of it is not patched out. You get it from lord of blood. Saves you some time.
@chrisdoran3673
@chrisdoran3673 3 ай бұрын
I belive the lore implies that the scarlet rot has taken her eyesight along with other appendages which kinda explains somewhat why she can't see. When you face and attack her she uses her senses to react. Not an Elden Ring lore historian so please don't crucify me if I'm wrong.
@godsangryhands4499
@godsangryhands4499 2 жыл бұрын
An Interesting new Technique!
@KoriKitsune
@KoriKitsune 2 жыл бұрын
also according to some other video, if you summon latenna, or any summons really, before you summon them you activate moghs great rune. this gives all your summons an extra 20% damage boost among things. now, if anywhere, in a huge range really, any bloodloss occurs while moghs great rune is active, your summons get another 20% damage boost for like a minute or so, on top of the permament other 20% damage boost. Finally, you can also throw a cursed blood pot on the ground, or, at malenia herself. I dont think it has much effect for latenna, unless it would make her attack faster... but the pot effect itself, whether it misses or not, also adds another damage boost to summons. so you can make latenna do a good deal more damage that way.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about the innate 20% boost. I was under the impression I have to proc bleed/curse pot. It didn't cross my mind since the tests I was doing with this, I was restricting myself from attacking her to see if Latenna could truly solo her (which she did). I will be using Mohg's rune when I test the other archers though!
@patricksullivan9713
@patricksullivan9713 2 жыл бұрын
This is pretty cool, I learned a lot more of how she acts now
@rebkahibasdeys
@rebkahibasdeys 2 жыл бұрын
such an unprofessional video... Great job.
@nexusyang4832
@nexusyang4832 2 жыл бұрын
The real power of a god is their ability to make people believe. If you turn your faith away and ignore them they hold no power over you. This is one such example. Good job. ;)
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
The Cold Shoulder +25.
@nexusyang4832
@nexusyang4832 2 жыл бұрын
@@snunpai Facts. :)
@Virusruneblazer
@Virusruneblazer 2 жыл бұрын
The redmane knight's arrows are so strong they continually just knock her over lmao
@guyfrowny
@guyfrowny 6 ай бұрын
Tbh this is actually cool af and I would consider a "challenge" method.
@jg9739
@jg9739 2 жыл бұрын
Latenna and the nightmaiden & swordstress puppets carried me all the way till I got to the snow giant after that I needed someone that could do damage and dodge alot of attacks so I brought out Black Knife Tiche and damn this girl goes to town so much that you gotta keep up or she'll make you look like your just standing around doing nothing.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
I remember distinctly summoning Tiche for Godskin Duo and I started buffing (Golden Vow, Erdtree Blessing, FGMS). She took care of a solid 20% by the time I was done. She wasn't having it that day.
@lastofthevandals
@lastofthevandals 2 жыл бұрын
Super useful on my current challenge (no lvl up, no weapons upgrade)
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
That's a fun run. I used Night Maiden's Mist in mine. Pretty goofy to drop tear gas and run in a circle.
@MaxMinstats
@MaxMinstats 2 жыл бұрын
I'm doing a sl1 run with a lvl 10 latenna and she's amazing! Latenna is seriously the goat! Her range is further than her visual spawn some times! Commander Niels spear and mohggs great rune and seppuku buff her up nice and if you need just drop a warming stone or that sheild ash of war she can have a longer happier picnic and if you need to keep her alive for aoe nukes just drink the ally damage boost perfume cuz it makes the next hit they recieve only do a tiny % it normally would! There's a ton of great ways to use her!
@nathaeladalyah9681
@nathaeladalyah9681 2 жыл бұрын
My strategy for Malenia was similar but different. I used Oleg, and my goal was to keep Malenia focused on me, dodge her attacks, and have Oleg initiate from her backside. Once he hits, I would jump into a double greatswords power stance attack, knock her flat on her face, swing one more time, and roll out. Since I dealt more damage and was technically the one who broke her stance, she would go right back to focusing me. However, I had to keep looking at her for it to work, because the moment she focused Oleg during Phase 1 it was a loss, because Oleg suicides at the start of Phase 2 and loses half of his health.
@jmoyl1224
@jmoyl1224 2 жыл бұрын
Great find, will definitely help those stuck with her.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
If it does, that would be amazing. This doesn't seem easy to me just due to the fact you're playing decoy. If it does work for someone though, I'd be happy.
@Cavegeckosol
@Cavegeckosol 11 ай бұрын
Wild Malenias perceive eye contact as a challenge.
@getttthyped1582
@getttthyped1582 2 жыл бұрын
“Just like every other host” my g, you really know what’s up, me and the other homie like WTF she had a sliver….!!!!!!!
@aristateles1549
@aristateles1549 2 жыл бұрын
Zhou Yu: How did you get 100.000 arrows in 3 days? Zhuge Liang:
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
I love this reference.
@woffydoggy686
@woffydoggy686 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, my respect. I will try this.
@dande3139
@dande3139 2 жыл бұрын
All those arrows in Malenia!
@saturn580
@saturn580 2 жыл бұрын
In her second phase Malenia's wings make her an even bigger target for Latenna. 🤣
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
I actually didn't know her wings were a hitbox!
@cambal5640
@cambal5640 Жыл бұрын
I’ll try anything at this point 🙃
@onyxcitadel9759
@onyxcitadel9759 2 жыл бұрын
my fav part was when you said, " oh she didn't thrust.. oh wow". .. 🤣
@AneggoctopuS
@AneggoctopuS 11 ай бұрын
Latenna is really underrated.
@justguy-4630
@justguy-4630 Жыл бұрын
Really makes you realize that Malenia has a moral code, unlike some people. She doesn't attack you as aggressively if you're (at least what she thinks of it) not engaged.
@WreakHvok
@WreakHvok 2 жыл бұрын
That was crazy you figured that out 😂😂😂😂
@wuconda1712
@wuconda1712 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful guide for me to fight Malenia
@doybins
@doybins Жыл бұрын
Interesting Method :) great video
@nicolasgiudici4697
@nicolasgiudici4697 2 жыл бұрын
Oh God you really Need to try that with the puppets archers
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
That's on the list!
@Safetyman99
@Safetyman99 2 жыл бұрын
I've only beaten Malenia by summoning Let Me Solo Her... LOL. Thanks for this info... I'ma try it for sure.
@ethanjacob123
@ethanjacob123 2 жыл бұрын
Bro this is ingenious cheese.
@ethanjacob123
@ethanjacob123 2 жыл бұрын
Cheese is valid in souls. Just means you are smarter lol
@kyriladam5188
@kyriladam5188 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this.. Thanks for the tips
@sharpfang
@sharpfang 2 жыл бұрын
Who'd guess a stationary turret strategically placed can be a mighty help.
@japanesecurry01
@japanesecurry01 2 жыл бұрын
I found this video hella interesting, I think niche things are the most interesting stuff in elden ring
@johndoe7270
@johndoe7270 Жыл бұрын
I might try this. I struggled on my first round with her. I had no problems for the next 5 or 6 rounds. On, I think NG+6 and really having trouble.
@ZamorakSpawn
@ZamorakSpawn 2 жыл бұрын
Loyal Latenna claims another victory.
@richarddunne3689
@richarddunne3689 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I have been attempting with my RL1 run using daggers and lightning spear to keep aggro and do some damage.
@michaelhernandez9187
@michaelhernandez9187 2 жыл бұрын
Radahn had cleanrot spears lodged into his back. Malenia has Lattenna arrows lol
@Klabautzerbebbi
@Klabautzerbebbi 6 ай бұрын
It's rather a "how else to kill her" video rather than a guide fir cheese because the difficult part is dodging her attacks and not the occasional R1 in between dodging. But still interesting to watch, thank you! :)
@AUnit2010
@AUnit2010 Жыл бұрын
"Hot ice...you heard me...hot ice....I heat up..the ice cubes....it's the best of both worlds!" -The Brickma Build (great movie)
@confusion_said6151
@confusion_said6151 Жыл бұрын
My first Elden Ring build was severely bodged and didn't do any damage. But I had Latenna, so I upgraded her, leveld HP and Stamina, equipped shabriris woe and made that my build. It worked surprisingly well.
@bellisperennissturdivant
@bellisperennissturdivant 2 жыл бұрын
elden ring really is a sandbox game! thanks for the video : )
@KruberFan
@KruberFan 2 жыл бұрын
I really like both this and the jar cannon ways to cheese her. I wonder if you could combine the two for any sort of result?
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, but this does rely on drawing agro. You wouldn't be able to fire next to Latenna and keep her away as you'd imagine. You could run a Greatshield and just push her on her ass while Latenna uses her M16. Interesting suggestion!
@brandonkelly3275
@brandonkelly3275 2 жыл бұрын
I beat the fire giant the same way. Never struck it once
@jcvanrooyen5372
@jcvanrooyen5372 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! How about the Fire Giant? 6 days in and still can’t fell this irritation.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
She DOES fire pretty safely at him. He doesn't really try to attack her. It's just his massive HP pool that's the issue. I wouldn't try to do a No Attacking run on him. Tiche works because her Weapon Art does Max HP% Damage. Aside from that, Rot, Chilling Mist, and Bleed always work fine. You could Spam Chilling Mist (Spell or Weapon Art), throw a firebomb to clear the Frost and repeat. You could also use Black Flame Blade (it does HP% Damage) since it's pretty easy to get free hits with it on.
@snunpai
@snunpai 2 жыл бұрын
I tried her out vs. Fire Giant: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqaxo3qPqq6baqM She actually does good. She goes for headshots so she hurts. It's just hard to keep agro if you aren't using ranged attacks to keep him agro.
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