An untreated B12 deficiency: Jimmy's Story

When our client, Jimmy Norman, became aware of his vitamin B12 symptoms, his pleas for proper medical treatment were left unheard.
It wasn't until he saw our client Charlotte's story and how we helped her, that he contacted our medical negligence team.
Hear, he tells us his story and how his vitamin B12 deficiency has altered his life.
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[@munkami]

Well done Jimmy for fighting for your cause and for many others

[@melissak7798]

Sue all the people who prevent to give these people proper treatment! I've never been a fan of lawyers, but I love your work!

[@coloradogirl9913]

I'm so sorry for you! I am there with you. I feel like my life is being wasted. I'm glad you kept fighting for yourself. I hope you will continue to improve and get back your health. My God bless you!

[@anitastar5233]

Thank you!

[@Cimba71]

Thank you to jimmy, I have suffered for years with similar situation.. Finally a move to another GP’s surgery almost instantly 2 just below the levels blood tests and I start treatment in May this year 2024.. But thank you for letting me know I’m not mad and not dying either!!

[@daniellejenkins111]

I was lucky for a while I had a locum GP who followed nice guidelines (to an extent). I have X2 lots of 6 EOD injections and then she agreed to EOD injections for 6 weeks and I felt normal again. The locum left and my GP didn’t get back to me when I made contact. I now order my own injections and self inject at home.

[@maxharvey6253]

Its not possible to overdose on B12. Physically - not possible. So many General Practitioners really know a lot less than the general population whom are self educated - about issues such as vitamin B12 deficiency.

[@Ania-qb3ot]

yes totally clueless

[@helenevice6920]

My GP dismisses my symptoms and tells me I will recover. My right hand turned very dark and after 4 months it still remains the same, my GP tells me it's sun burn even after telling him that I don't sit in the sun. His explanation was that one can get sun burn whilst inside the house. I rest my case. I have dizzy spells, tingling in my hands and legs, pimples in my mouth, tiredness etcetra. I have given up with doctors and at my wits end.

[@ashleighcharakupa745]

Hello Everyone. Thanks to Jimmy, Charlotte & the Team @ Slater & Gordon for shedding light on this deficiency. I am all the way in Africa and have been to two GP’s with a b12 level of 203 pmol/L. They say 133-674 pmol/L is normal range, but I feel horrendous, daily. I have been on 1mg of Cyanocobalamin since mid January this year. The effects wear off in a short period and I am back to feeling terrible by 10am, lol. Please share with me what are acceptable normal ranges in your respective countries? Thanx in advance.

[@flanners26]

Jimmy, what dose was you on in the end? Weekly, daily? And which form of b12 shots? Hydroxo, methyl, cyno????

[@czechmyfpv9854]

Yea been there too. Mine were at 92. I had even more symptoms. I started taking 1000-2000mcg daily and in 6 weeks everything was good

[@KMx108]

I wish I could find an attorney like this in the USA.

[@videos4doctors]

Dont you think its odd that you cant find an attorney for this in the US? I do. I have the same problem.

[@KMx108]

@@videos4doctors I have tried. They only want to deal with easy/obvious cases...like "the surgeon cut off the wrong leg" sort of cases.

[@thomassvensson1523]

I suspect that I have pernicious anemia and I have been sick for over 15 years. Doctors here in Sweden does'nt know anything about this. Really frustrating..

[@michellecheatley1214]

There are support groups on Facebook from Sweden, some of the even sugest a ''good Dr's Guide''...

[@marciemarwood4362]

Listen to your gut. If you suspect PA, keep reading and researching. Ordering your own labs and supplies for treatment is possible. I am of Swedish decent. PA runs in my family. I went many years without treatment. I am one year into treating myself, every other day and am just starting to recover some cognitive function (late 50's). My Mom was treated with "tablets" and she died a very painful death. We did not know at the time. B12 deficiency is a slow killer. Please push forward with testing if you suspect deficiency.

[@paulocurado7967]

same as me. had it all my life. im in the UK

[@marciemarwood4362]

Thomas, are you better? Did you find help?

[@Lifeszu]

just start taking methylcobalamin injection and see how do you feel after 2 weeks

[@SarahSmith-hd8kd]

I have the extreme fatigue and brain fog. I am wondering though is muscle mass and loss of strength one of the symptoms? My arms and body just feels extremely tired and heavy after even a small physical exertion and muscle contractions or use of strength. I also wake up feeling NO energy as well. I can't say I had all the same symptoms but depression, anxiety the pins and needles thing. The worst however, was an initially large weight loss ( mainly muscle ) with loss of strength obviously and very heavy exausted arms and upper body with little to no physical exertion at all sometimes. This has been going on for 3 plus months with doctors saying all your bloodwork is normal... but none have tested or even mention vitamin D or B12 or even magnesium at all much less testing them. I am starting to go a bit nutty here... as my job and my family are at stake. If you have any insight I appreciate anything at all. Thsnk you!

[@Jean-ti2mj]

U may have low vit d3 u need to take vit d3 with mk7 K2 with animal fat and magnesium glycinate

[@Ania-qb3ot]

buy yr own b12 and si

[@StarWarsFans98]

I'm in a similar boat. I have to wait until June before a follow-up with the neurologists assistant. I'm hoping I can get her to understand that my body isn't absorbing the B12 and I need the injections. I have narcolepsy coupled with the deficiency, so I spend most of my time in bed. It's awful.

[@Ania-qb3ot]

you can buy yr own b12 and self inject, order from apotal pharmacy in germany No not dodgy, only stupid uk you cant buy over the counter

[@amainezuko1488]

There are many places where you can get a b12 shot without a prescription. Here in Houston there's a place called anylabtests they do it. Just make sure it's methylcobalmin not cyanocobalamin

[@jennet388]

If you dare to question a gp, healthcare worker in NHS, or have the audacity to research, then confront or query....Trust me, you'll suffer the consequences and not get what you need. This is what I did and I basically now just speak with my local pain clinic and the consultant Pharmacist attached to my crap gp practice. I'm so sorry you've had to go through this. The wickedness is palpable, especially to dobit to a young person. 😤😡🤬🤬

[@elenamanoli5728]

in my country i buy the b12 injection without the recept and it is so cheap. i buy them wen i feel like.

[@talhaouiadnan5384]

FROM WICH COUNTRY YOU ARE

[@elenamanoli5728]

@@talhaouiadnan5384 Republica Moldova, but now i live in Germany and hier i buy also without recipe. i buy it for my mom, she has Parinsons and this injections brings her to live. i‘m doctor myself, thats why i dot wait for lab nor treatment.

[@Jean-ti2mj]

​@@talhaouiadnan5384 I think u can buy like this in Germany

[@binathere2574]

Same in Australia.

[@zfvr]

Vitamin b12 home injection kits are on sale on Etsy

[@shaneandnieceychandler7968]

Wow, i just got told i have no b12 in my body and that my liver and spleen are enlarged, for 4 weeks on Tuesday i get a b12 shot then sublingual tablets . Hopefully i get some change cause i feel this story and looking into things to help myself .

[@AbdulaahiAliahmed67]

I became sick in 2004 they told me I have pibolar desorder typ 1 they give me olanzapine 5mg and depaken 500mg finally I became dead inside I stoped and I take vitimin b12 every day one tablet 1mg and I feel much better now

[@tinafirfield4673]

Excellent video. My GP refused to follow the NICE guidelines so they give me a jab every 3 months 🤣 so I have to but the supplies & self inject EOD. I now have a life 👍

[@MononokeDevil]

I self treat too!

[@Ania-qb3ot]

❤me too

[@laalaakay]

Can I ask what your levels were? My levels 232 with symptoms: pins and needles, aches all over, painful feet, extremely tired. According to NICE I should have further testing but GP says I’m not deficient!

[@DS-vd3bv]

Same in my case. My B12 levels are in normal range but I have all these symptoms that you mentioned along with numbness, pain and tingling in my toes of feet.

[@Moon52171]

I have these symptoms and not, I have fibromyalgia and M.E. my b12 levels are really high and I don't suppliment. No one knows why.. im so confused

[@Ania-qb3ot]

😢cos yr idiot gp and all uk drs only do 4hrs training in vitamins, minerals and nutrition, and that isnt even mandatory So theyre totally clueless Both yr b12 levels are extremely low buy yr own b12 and si

[@TG-dz2cx]

@@Moon52171 Look into paradoxical b12 deficiency. Apparently high b12 levels can de due to a fuctional b2 deficiency which leads to a b12 deficiency. It presents as high in the blood though.

[@user-zr6sk9fb7c]

Mine was a 83

[@jayendrapatel1217]

Hello doc , Saw your informative video on B12 deficiency and I found have been suffering from most of the problems of b12 deficiency . Can you please help me if these symptoms of mine are due to B12 deficiency . 1) low appetite , feeling cold in feet and hands after eating and vomiting after eating hai 2) fatigue and spinal cord pain 3) constipation and bloating 4) weakness and low bmi of (16.5) 5) forgetfulness , I doesn't remember my studies and feels demotivated due to poor academic performance despite hardwork. 6) anxiety and sleeplessness at times 7) hair loss Sir , I am currently pursuing my graduation and is unable to focus on my studies due to frequent illness and fatigue . Please provide guidance it will be really helpful for me Pls do reply doctor 🙏 waiting for response

[@binathere2574]

I am in B12 recovery and yes these symptoms.

[@jayendrapatel1217]

@@binathere2574 which supplements are you using?

[@faceniff4278]

​@@jayendrapatel1217although you mentioned 90% of b12 deficiency symptoms i would like to tell u to get vitamin b12 drops under the tongue specially vit b12 (methylcobalamin)

[@rebeccagarner2576]

I reversed those symptoms in myself in a month with b12 bioactive under tongue drops !!

[@L.J.Designs]

I don't feel like saying more than When you feel the GP , and specialists referred by your GP, are not taking you seriously. Get the files, and read what the doctors write about you.

[@PMaillet]

Very interesting, thanks for sharing. It would be so much better without that awful background music.

[@naziastanikzai5997]

I am b 12 deficient . My level was 80 😂 And I got joint pain Pains and needle Coldness One night my both legs were totally numb. My gp gave me 1 mg b 12 ever day for three months

[@theresageiger584]

Omg I wish I had known better

[@anitastar5233]

Please point me towards this B12 deficiency support group that Jimmy mentions

[@Jean-ti2mj]

Pernicious anemia society uk also read about Dr choundry the gp who is a hero to he's patients giving 700 of he's patients B12 injection shots only for nhs nearly sacking him he had to get he's patients to speak up for him on how he got them well he is a hero Dr choundry

[@Jean-ti2mj]

Pernicious anemia society uk

[@anitastar5233]

@@Jean-ti2mj Thank you. i am assuming this support group is for those with PA rather than simply deficiency?

[@Jean-ti2mj]

@@anitastar5233 it's for p.a get a intrinsic factor antibody blood test to see if u need B12 injections

[@Jean-ti2mj]

@@anitastar5233 there's videos on pernicious anemia society uk to watch.

[@jc2557]

Dr's are so ignorant to the body's need for vitamins and give dangerous or non helpful advice, I have cured many conditions that my "real" Dr had no idea how to heal me. They wonder why we are going to youtube for our health advice, we have to get help somewhere. Sue them if you can, they need to know this is unacceptable.

[@charlieabel1533]

why didn't you just go to another doctor?

[@jimmy93538]

I tried 4 doctors in the end before giving up and going down this route

[@SarahSmith-hd8kd]

​@@jimmy93538 I have the extreme fatigue and brain fog. I am wondering though is muscle mass and loss of strength one of the symptoms? My arms and body just feels extremely tired and heavy after even a small physical exertion and muscle contractions or use of strength. I also wake up feeling NO energy as well. I can't say I had all the same symptoms but depression, anxiety the pins and needles thing. The worst however, was an initially large weight loss ( mainly muscle ) with loss of strength obviously and very heavy exausted arms and upper body with little to no physical exertion at all sometimes. This has been going on for 3 plus months with doctors saying all your bloodwork is normal... but none have tested or even mention vitamin D or B12 or even magnesium at all much less testing them. I am starting to go a bit nutty here... as my job and my family are at stake. If you have any insight I appreciate anything at all. Thsnk you!

[@NickBarrett-cd3sb]

I've just had to change doctors because my several of them at my last surgery refused to believe I have a b12 issue. My serum level was normal but I have textbook symptoms (crushing fatigue, nausea, dizziness, palpitations, random pains, headaches, vision problems, ridged fingernails, muscle twitches and pins and needles in my hands and feet) so I paid for an active b12 test and it came back very low. I sent them this and said i need injections and they wouldn't even call me back, just text saying it's not a deficiency and my serum is normal. I immediately went and registered with another doctor who has put me on injections every other day for 2 weeks with a follow up at the month. I've probably just fell lucky finding a good gp but I can confirm a lot of them have no idea about this and will just fob you off which is horrific when you have symptoms like this.

[@Ania-qb3ot]

​@@jimmy93538because they are all the same zero trained so clueless Uk only gives 2 to 4 shots a yr anyway, its insane

[@user-id1ij8vc8i]

Is this true. Don't take the. P__ please 🇬🇧🥺