Anakin & Obi Wan vs Dooku | Lightsaber Duel Analysis (Revenge of the Sith)

[@40KBeyond]

Dooku dancing was the best thing ever. Great vid as always ATAT! This is one of my all time favorite lightsaber duels.

[@saganthapa7965]

you got pinned.

[@harpsmith8570]

This duel is so underrated. This is one of my favorites as well.

[@GabiBrooks]

This is even better after watching these three interacting in the Clone Wars. My fav moment is when they are captured by pirates and they have to work together to escape🤣 It's like: Dooku: Do control your protege's insolence. I am concentrating! Obi: Anakin! Anakin: What? Obi: Control your insolence. The count is concentrating! 😏 Anakin:😏 Priceless🤣

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Amusing as that scene was, those two episodes make no sense as they can use the Force and could have used it to remove the bindings since it is shown the bindings don't impair the use of the Force. It's poorly written just to put the heroes and villains into a situation to work together. It also makes no sense at the end for the Jedi to say that the pirates didn't do anything to them...since they killed a Senator sent to bargain for their release...which is never even addressed. The CW cartoon has some good moments...but it also has some really badly written and nonsensical ones too, that pair of episodes is certainly in the lesser camp.

[@GabiBrooks]

@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 yes, I am aware, but for me their interaction makes up for it🤣

[@DustyRaider]

*Later that episode* Dooku: I would kill you both now if I would not have to drag your bodies. (One of the best lines imo)

[@TerraStone]

This duel is heavily under-rated

[@ATATChat]

Dude how pumped are you got dune?

[@TerraStone]

@@ATATChat So pumped bro! I also can't wait for your Dune related videos

[@giglefreakz]

“Undoing Palpatine and his Empire.... for about 30 years” I’m dead.

[@stormbringer2840]

Not even , Palpatine was in the head of ben since his early childhood ...So he was back at most 5 years after his death .

[@spvcespvce]

Not to get into that whole discussion but, having viewed his other films, Hayden Christensen is a phenomenal actor and I'd give anything to see him portray Anakin Skywalker one more time Even if it's like a 1 minute flashback in the Kenobi Series, anything

[@RhantheSlayer]

I agree! He can act really well, it’s just that people don’t like his character. It sucks because some people associate a character with an actor, so if they see the character as poorly written, they think the actor is also bad, which isn’t true

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

This! Finally someone who agrees!

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

@@RhantheSlayer facts! He is the Chosen One!

[@samba1367]

Not to forget his haunting portrayal after the tusken murder. His anger, this raw emotion, bringing in all the previous character steps, how he yells 'I hate them!' will always get me ^^

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

he's not bad, personally i blame the direction for the Prequels since most of the actors in it are phenomenal in other material.

[@anakinskywalker549]

"My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count!"

[@commanderrex8351]

Anakin Skywalker sir what are your orders

[@GabiBrooks]

A few months if you count that time you almost strangled him in Clone Wars🤣✋ Nicely done!

[@anakinskywalker549]

@@commanderrex8351 at ease, Commander..

[@AirbenderHawk]

Anakin Skywalker “Hello there!”

[@FabianEllis]

Twice the pride, double the fall

[@hunterkiller1440]

I thought the Super Battle Droids lying lifeless in the background is a nice silent symbolism where Dooku is just like the droids in the CIS. Another forgotten piece of equipment to Palpatine's grand plan.

[@Jander833]

I really appreciate the observation that Dooku was too smart for Sheev's purposes.

[@tristanskywalker1998]

This is in my top 3 prequel trilogy duels. I like how this one is a lot more grounded and not as over the top as a lot of other duels in the trilogy.

[@FabianEllis]

Wow I didn’t realise that what Palpatine was doing in the background was actually using the force- I thought it was just Ian McDiarmid having a great time on set 😂 great video as always 👍

[@ATATChat]

Probably that too! hahaha. I think its more of a retconned idea from the novel but my mind makes it real within the fight haha.

[@danielcooke3800]

Yeah Ian has a bucket of popcorn...u can c him munchin' on it in the background!

[@rango3780]

Almost couldnt believe how short this battle really was until I revisited it last year. I love your take on how the emperors plan was to use anakin as a vessel until mustafar happened, makes VI more cohesive thinking that the emperor wanted Luke for his vessel and the same for IX with Rey/Ben having failed with Anakin and Luke. Makes you wonder why he never tried to turn Leia..?

[@kungolaf4499]

He never knew about Leia. Vader just learned that Luke had a possibly force sensitive twin sister on the Second Death Star. If that was news to Vader, Palpatine must have not known either. Considering that Palpatine and Leia cross paths many times, even in Canon book "Princess" where Palpatine doesn't realize she is force sensitive. Yet she feels "cold" around Vader but immensely cold around Palpatine.

[@tsonny1104]

for a duel this is actually a pretty long fight. the mustafar fight is almost comedically long, and the duel of the fates is long because Maul is drawing Qui-Gon into an area where hes disadvantaged and tired

[@blackeyedlily]

I always love the bit after this duel when Palpatine tries to convince Anakin to leave Obi-Wan behind. Anakin replies that Obi-Wan’s fate will be the same as theirs. Seeing as all three eventually perished on Death Stars, this line always gives me a chuckle. I know it wasn’t the same Death Star for all three, but I’m sure George Lucas had this in mind when he wrote that line.

[@WesleyMarsh9758]

I always enjoyed the segment of the duel after Dooku tells Anakin to use his hatred and while they're clashing sabres you can see the space battle raging on behind them through the windows. Impressive little touch of scenery that's added to the duel making it feel more epic

[@ATATChat]

This is more of a "Why I love it" than a highly detailed analysis. With that said, I hope you come out of this with a greater appreciation of what I consider one of the best scenes from the Prequel Trilogy. Please LIKE, SHARE, and SUBSCRIBE to help the channel keep growing! ATAT

[@nasatheman1227]

When will the lightsaber analysis “anakin vs obi wan”, come out? We need it AT-AT WE LOVE THESE LIGHTSABER ANALYSIS

[@vetarlittorf1807]

Shadiversity already did an hour analysis on that one. And his ultimate conclusion was that it was the most well choreographed lightsaber duel in all the Star Wars movies.

[@feco91]

"I think it still holds up after *15 years* ." Damn, now I feel old.

[@ATATChat]

Isn't it crazy how long ago this was 😅

[@danielcooke3800]

U r old

[@danielcooke3800]

Not yet

[@quinten2529]

I was born

[@JGPRIME25]

"It's all a big loop." yeah and I love it that this loop is in every movie :D

[@alexplaysminc.-.5922]

it's a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig loop.

[@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus]

Anakin was stated to be "the finest Djem-So user" by Dooku himself. So a Master :D

[@ATATChat]

But I denied him the rank of master! 😉

[@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus]

@@ATATChat It's outrageous! It's unfair! 😝

[@laloomartinez9997]

Man quarantine will pass by quick with these videos I'm gonna be waiting for the next duel!

[@hunterkiller1440]

The novelization made the scene much more powerful. I wish the movie was as superb as the novel. Aesthetically speaking, I wished Anakin kept Dooku's lightsaber as a side arm. So when he intervened the confrontation between Mace Windu and Palpatine, he would draw Dooku's lightsaber to severe Mace's arm, and for the rest of the movie, he is using Dooku's lightsaber to carry out Order 66, execution of the Separatists, and his duel on Mustafar.

[@lapplandkun9273]

that wouldn't make sense in the context of the perspective orders, relatively speaking. If anakin kept dooku's saber, then obi wan would have noticed, informed the jedi council, and the jedi council would likely have ordered anakin to hand dooku's saber over to them, because dooku was a sith lord and anakin was a jedi. He would have no use for a sith lightsaber

[@toonbartholome479]

What is the official basis for Sidious intervening in the duel.

[@ericshawn3169]

This is my favorite duel idk why it’s just so smooth and well choreographed

[@michaelperret3430]

Dooku got Snoked Or Snoke got Dookud Whatever way you’d like to look at it

[@ivokroon977]

I'd say that they both got mauled

[@molliethomas2585]

@@ivokroon977 🤣

[@Tobias_R]

Love these! Man you're an underrated SW youtuber, I will watch your career with great interest

[@atsohjr4587]

Anakin: “Finally decided to crawl out from whatever bounty hunter you’ve been hiding behind!” Dooku: “Pawns in a game You have yet to start playing!” -BF2 Anakin, Dooku banter

[@RealNickWilliamson]

I’ve only watched two videos and you’ve easily earned my subscription. Such a creative and smart idea for Star Wars related videos.

[@CyberController-]

I feel like Dooku could've been a greater Lord Of The Sith than Palpatine was. While Palpatine was more powerful, he was also more ruthless. Dooku knew when a less violent solution would've been better, while Palpatine would prefer to make an example out of more stubborn opposition.

[@ATATChat]

I had a part of my script about that aspect. He may have been about to outsmart Palpatine so this was an easy way to get rid of someone who could rival him.

[@CyberController-]

@@ATATChat Well, Dooku wasn't too good at choosing apprentices. Ventress was a good choice, but Dooku should've faked her death instead of actually trying to kill her. Savage was powerful physically, but far to weak in the force or in tactical decision making to be a Sith Lord. And Krell couldn't even take out a few clone.

[@thewarner2139]

@@ATATChat A good analysis but you made a severe error. Nothing in either continuity indicates Palpatine interfered with the fight. To say otherwise is baseless and personal speculation. Nothing in the film or the novel, the latter of which only applies to legends anyway, which is largely where you pulled your info from and use for this breakdown. And as the current lore has shown, Palpatine wouldn't want to taint Anakin's victory, as he was only interested in having the most powerful apprentice by his side. Your view that Kenobi could have taken Dooku is accurate with regards to canon, as he is stated to be evenly matched with Anakin in RotS. Both of them individually were already at Dooku's level, so if he didn't separate them, he knew he wouldn't be able to keep up like he did throughout TCW.

[@lucientintenebris7331]

@@ATATChat The old man always seemed to sense my latest move to oust me.

[@starwarsspeculation9846]

Great timing with the The Clone Wars Siege of Mandalore coming Friday! 💪 Amazing work as always...

[@ATATChat]

I dont care what people say about this season. Im loving it. Its not as story heavy but then again it still feels like classic CW. Keep kicking ass man. I feel like youre going to be at 50K subs in like a month!

[@chagis100]

One of my fav duels, hell yeah

[@jamiemcneil9682]

Great breakdown. It is a bad ass fight.

[@ATATChat]

Yessir it is!

[@joshdraws1975]

Make Rey vs palpatine

[@evanshade19]

While I hate how weak obi wan seems in this fight and the goofy moment of the catwalk pinning him down, this duel is pretty great. One shot I love is anakin right as he goes dark. We see his angry expression as he swings downwards from above his head onto dooku, releasing a flurry of attacks that dooku can't handle. Eventually anakin overpowers dooku and has him right where palpatine wants him. The decapitation is gruesome and awesome. Also dew it.

[@lapplandkun9273]

how was obi wan weak? Is it because he was force choked and rag-dolled by dooku in the climax of the duel? Obi wan had his force defenses breached multiple times if you actually watched the clone wars show. Was thrown with the force by maul, force choked by ventress, and dooku was actually one of the most powerful force wielders of his era, behind Palpatine and yoda. It made sense dooku choked obi wan. If you think somebody is made weak because his or her opponent was also strong, then you got it all wrong

[@7632ios]

@@lapplandkun9273 they don’t exist in canon. You have to surprise your enemy or catch them mid air to pull it off.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

Fun fact: In the script, when Dooku was at Anakin's mercy, he was supposed to say "Chancellor! Protect me!" But Christopher Lee felt that line sounded too corny and thought it wasn't in Dooku's character to beg for his life. As such, he felt it would be better if Dooku was in too much shock (over the loss of his hands) to say anything at all and let his face show the fear for his life.

[@ATATChat]

Thanks fascinating. I kinda agree haha

[@ProjectTony]

"Help me chancellor palpatine, you're my only hope." -Dooku

[@coolbeans1coolbeans187]

great vid man

[@tinawilliams889]

I just watched this very duel last night! Great analysis, thanks for pointing out some great tidbits here.

[@mingching1440]

I've been looking forward to this ;)

[@User-be8sw]

Idk why I love this fight so much haha. It's just so entertaining

[@elliotwhite5230]

Great duel video!!

[@austind8989]

Great video, one of my favorite duels. I really enjoy these breakdowns👍🏻

[@ATATChat]

Thanks so much 🤟

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

Can we just talk about how elegant Dooku is just strolls in there does a nice little flex with his sword to hand and then a sweet duel commences!

[@matthewmagden8348]

Great video!

[@CelestQB]

When are you gonna do the anakin vs obiwan analysis ?

[@nikojanatuinen631]

Plz do an analysis on Rey vs Kylo Ren in ep. 9 next :)

[@ATATChat]

ITS NEXT!!!!

[@nikojanatuinen631]

@@ATATChat Happiness noises

It's also note worthy that both skywalkers lose their right hand first, and cut off their enemy's in revenge. And in both instances palpatine say good twice!

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks, Nick! ⚔️

[@denisestout6558]

I love your analysis 🤟🏼

[@panmpap4679]

Wasn’t Anakin using a hybrid Form IV/V?

[@ATATChat]

Not according to the research I did but maybe 🤷‍♀️. From what I read, he used Djem so the entire time. Obi was the guy switching forms it seems.

[@Darthpsychonis]

He wasn't using a hybrid form as he would later as a cyborg, but he can use Form IV to a high level.

[@danielcooke3800]

Other way around...opened with Shien...switched into Ataru mid-fight for a brief moment to over-power his opponent...then he switched into Djem-so a duelling focused variant of form V...this variant also used heavier crushing blows and redirection rather than deflection...showing his aggressive nature and intent to kill.

[@danielcooke3800]

Shien variant of form V...focuses on deflection mainly against blasters...

[@danielcooke3800]

Ataru usually is only good in open spaces where you can do wide swings and the acrobatic leaps...that is part of the reason why Qui-Gon lost against Maul...he got trapped and had no space to move.

[@darthsteeler9]

According to the Episode III novelization, Obi-Wan took an Ataru (form IV) stance, and Anakin took a Shien-Cho (Form I) stance.

[@ATATChat]

Right. Obi went 4 to 3. But visually I couldn't really tell if the movie changed Anakin's form. He looked like a basic combat ready to my eyes.

[@danielcooke3800]

What part are you talking about? In the film the opening stance is form V Form 1 his held directly in front of u Obi-Wan does take form IV stance usually when entering battle...except when fighting Grievous... I think maybe in the Clone Wars TV series he uses it alot against Dooku...

[@BobBunch-ownyourlife]

"Last Dance" ..........brilliant

[@CaughtInTheLoop]

Great analysis, AT-AT. But this analysis also shows why I am not the biggest fan of the Prequel fights. While this is still one of the best fights in the Prequels, it is mostly eye candy and doesn't have as deep themes as the other duels that you analyzed so far. I love how much you can analyze and interpret into the fights from the Originals, the Sequels and the Ahsoka vs Vader fight in Rebels. In the Prequel fights however I don't find as many artistic elements. I feel like they focus too much on being spectacular. But that's just my opinion 😅

[@quinten2529]

Hmm. Ur dumb

[@AirbenderHawk]

AYE!!!! 👏👏👏🦾🦾🦾⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️💪💪💪. That explosion made when Dooku landed is hilarious. 😂😂😂😂⚔️⚔️⚔️. The choreography and badassery is still epic to this day. Palpatine is secretly eating popcorn with the force during the duel from beginning to end. The acrobatics ain’t present here, but it is, for jumping from the rail, etc. DEW IT!

[@59rlmccormack]

That fight sure was something...

[@avramnovorra]

One thing i took away from watching this is that Dooku's use of Makashi so impresses Anakin that when he evenutaly put on his suit as Vader, he had to learn some of that to help his bulkier body fight competently... Granted this seems more like Legends stuff but the influence Dooku had on Vader's style really shows.

[@twstf8905]

Star Wars had always operated reliably under a fundamental, basic formula. A very particular, consistent combination of thematic elements and tropes continuously colored and enhanced by each new installment in the franchise. It became a kind of, "comfort zone," it felt like we were safe, like we were Home. Take any of those fundamental elements away and you're suddenly thrown into an uncomfortably overwhelming sense of exposure and vulnerability. Change or alter the established formula and it just doesn't feel like our trusty Star Wars anymore. The once maligned Prequels made efforts to distinguish themselves a little from the preceding films, each one contributing its own mysterious Planets and epic locations, stunning environments and advanced technology, all populated with their own unique creatures, inventive Droids, and inspired characters and their designs, while strictly adhering consistently to those same foundational standards. But beyond that, the prequels had entire new vehicle and Starship designs of their own, in addition to the Clone and Droid Armies and the intriguing depth of the conflict for which they were created, building significantly upon that essential Star Wars foundation. The sequel films don't even share a property line, let alone a foundation, with the Star Wars that we call, "Home." Getting Ian Mcdiarmid to reprise his role in service to the story about his rise to power from Senator to Supreme Chancellor and ultimately becoming the Evil Galactic Emperor we all knew so well from our childhoods was arguably a necessity for that particular set of installments. Getting a chance to witness as Palpatine orchestrated the primary, overarching conflict in the Galaxy, masterfully driving the events with expert precision and patience behind the motivations of all the main characters, all while simultaneously grooming the so-called "chosen one," Anakin Skywalker, largely believed to have been the most powerful Jedi ever, and who had been prophesized to be the Jedi who would bring the Force back into balance, to choose the Dark Side becoming Palpatine's Sith apprentice and Imperial enforcer, all from the shadows RIGHT under the nose of the Jedi counsel, was an indispensable aspect of the prequel trilogy, that any subsequent stories would be hard-pressed to emulate. His appearance in the Rise of Skywalker was unfortunately hindered by its inexplicability and subsequent execution. It's like installing a state-of-the-art security system on an empty hunting shanty way back in the woods that you and some buddies slapped together with recycled pallets over a weekend lol like trying to increase the value of the rusty old station wagon that's been broken down in the back yard with a couple thousand dollar paint job. No amount of "Palpatine-brand Bondo," is going to mitigate the damage to the structural integrity caused by the corrosive effects of such inadequate, lazy, or just uninspired storytelling. What should have been celebrated by the fandom for representing a return to form and substance became one of the Saga's biggest points of contention, making it one of the more devastating of the many missed opportunities. Coupled with the obvious lack of any clear vision, or attempts at cohesively tying the three films together in any semblance of overarching narrative makes the Star Wars sequel trilogy a disappointing tragedy more than anything else, and that's even if the delicate wisps of a tether to the source material wasn't somehow doomed to remain tenuous. Being so apparently devoid of even the most basic, fundamental creative concepts, presented to us with mostly re-used or derivative vehicle and Starship designs, and the reliance on so many long-existing aesthetic elements showing little to no evidence that even any attempts at considering making potential improvements speaks volumes about the forces motivating the entire endeavor. When remembering the reactions people had to the Prequels, all those years ago, what stands out more than almost anything else, besides the wooden dialogue, is the overabundance of Galactic Politics, which is fairly understandable. But I don't recall anyone not knowing who was in charge, from the Republic to it's transition to an Empire, everyone knew that Coruscant was the Washington D.C. of this story. However unpopular the political themes were, their complete nonexistence makes it virtually unclear to the audience who the powers that be even are. I mean, our only glimpse of the, "New Republic," government in the Force Awakens consists of a few scant seconds of people staring terrified at the sky before being literally, (and figuratively,) obliterated from the story completely by the First Order's TOTALLY original Solar system-destroying Superweapon. It could even be credibly argued that the factors motivating the First Order to seize power in a violent coup were the same feelings of oppression and subjugation that inspired the Rebel Alliance before them. Besides having amassed a fairly sizeable military, the Force Awakens begins with the appearance that the First Order are some totalitarian-inspired, "freedom fighters," struggling under the oppressive weight of the New Republic. Of course, they were actively working towards the overthrow and eventual destruction of the current Galactic government, and a systematic return to Imperial rule, but the inability, or unwillingness, to clarify to the audience the current state of the Galaxy at that macro level further illustrates the contextual inadequacies plaguing this, "Age of Resistance." Despite the many deliberate differences introduced in the prequels, each new addition still managed to maintain that fidelity, in deference to the underlying source material that was established back in the beginning, allowing them each to contribute more color, and an absolute wealth of further meaning and context to the Lore. For these reasons they were all unmistakably, "Star Wars." Even the few less-than satisfied fans could feel, despite their supposed disappointment, how neatly and snug each one comfortably inhabited its place in the wider Saga. Before George Lucas chose to hand Lucasfilm over to Disney in 2012, he had been busy constantly refining and further fleshing out his vast Universe, some of which to the dismay and resentment of thousands of fans, but for every misstep, whether actual or just perceived, he added plenty to his long list of brilliant decisions, as well. Some of the successes, like the Clone Wars series, have continued adding emotional weight and further enrichment of their own, even as Disney continues struggling to find its footing with their recent offerings. These are just some of the few, (long-winded,) reasons this last trilogy doesn't feel like it should qualify as a Star Wars, "sequel," to me. But, I'm not unrealistic about it, at all, and I realize it's what we got, like it or not. An unintended consequence of the Universe becoming so expansive is that the aspects outside my own, personal tastes and preferences have grown right along with it. There's a hollow, empty, and unsatisfying undercurrent that persists beneath the experience of watching the sequel trilogy,. I tried with every atom in my body to force myself to appreciate and enjoy them. I even discovered I had been lying to myself, convinced they had to have been amazing while trying to ignore that incessant emptiness the entire time. For a while there, I was one of those annoying people constantly defending the movies in forums and in KZbin comment sections. Only realizing later that I had been aware of the truth the whole time, i had just buried it deep down beneath the rosy picture I had created to support my denials. It wasn't until I finally sat down and watched them again, in order and as objectively and intellectually honest as possible, that I finally came around to the inevitable conclusion that I could no longer deny what had been gnawing away at me to recognize, accept, and admit. Now, I think I've made peace, and although I know the sequels are okay movies, in their own right. They're all arguably better than the vast majority of recently released movies out there. But, as the conclusion of the long-running, "Skywalker Saga," I had been investing my time and energy in for over four decades now, I cannot say I honestly believe they are equal to their predecessors. I'm not even able to say they're in the right region, let alone the right ballpark. I take absolutely NO pleasure saying I have seen better, more interesting and entertaining fan fiction here, on KZbin. Fortunately, there's still PLENTY of fresh, new Star Wars that exists safely within those parameters, with more and more being created all the time, for fans disillusioned by Disney like me to enjoy. 👍😊

[@KyberChronicles]

Great analysis one of your best yet, also not a duel that gets talked about often. If I could request a duel to cover it would be Obi Wan vs General Grievous or Kanan and Ezra vs The Grand Inquisitor from rebels season 1.

[@micaiahflores1592]

one of my favorite off all time on a chronograph level next to ani vs obi

[@scrubzone4367]

Anakin was a master of form V, not just a user.

[@ATATChat]

I've denied him the rank of master

[@bamma4]

@@ATATChat how can you be a skilled user of form V but not a master

[@daneionblake3939]

andrew smith Take a seat young skywalker

[@marsisflat]

Daneion Blake what about the droid attack on the wookies?

[@CelestQB]

Please do anakin vs obiwan next!

[@emilysanchez4584]

Cannot wait for your lightsaber duel analysis of rey vs kylo on the death star

[@spideysg1163]

Really good duel after seeing the clone wars I really wish dooku didn’t die I wish anakin let dooku live and dooku reveals palpatine is a sith But you know plot armour

[@rogueguardian]

Hey admit it you love the final fight in phantom menace 😉 This fight is awesome too.

[@ThePhantomsSiren000]

I love your sense of humor AT-AT! I about died when I saw Dooku do the Disco to "Last Dance"🤣. I really liked this duel and this was a very well done analysis :) Will you be doing any more from The Clone Wars show? I'd love to see a Maul & Savage vs. Palpatine analysis :)

[@ATATChat]

HAHA! I love that silly humor. I am considering the two on one duel against palpatine for sure.

[@saifsufian4286]

can yo do one of these for Ashoka vs Maul

[@johnbabylon7626]

Dooku would have torched Kenobi. Remember, Obi-Wan only held his own against Anakin for two reasons. The first was that their forms cancelled each other out. They are literally the polar opposites of one another with Anakin's relying on parry/counterattack combos and Obi-Wan's specifically designed to master defense and offer almost nothing in the way of attack. Furthermore, Anakin and Obi-Wan had history that Dooku and Obi-Wan didn't have. Anakin and Obi-Wan knew each other intimately--like brothers. They could sense and anticipate each other with near mirror precision. And it is just that history that led to Anakin's defeat: he wanted to prove that he was every bit as good and better than his former master and so fell for the "high ground" trick trying to prove that anything Obi-Wan can do, Anakin can do. Left to play out without Anakin's hubris, Darth Vader would have defeated Obi-Wan on Mustafar.

[@thewarner2139]

In Legends, a clear minded Vader would have bested Kenobi for sure. In canon, it was a complete stalemate until Kenobi took the high ground. The lore says they were evenly matched in strength and skill, but Obi-Wan had more experience and that won him the day.

[@johnbabylon7626]

@@thewarner2139 "Legends" is actual canon. Disney Star Wars doesn't exist.

[@carlsonbecker7900]

You deserve more likes

[@HakunaMaChatter]

I always react the same as you to the catwalk. Obi-wan clearly did learn force healing after all this time. Great analysis as always 👍🏾

[@kirabartholomew7651]

Can you do Anakin and Obi-Wan lightsaber battle

[@ATATChat]

Possibly! Full Fatt Videos did an AMAZING review of that duel however...it would be fun to step through the mental anguish each one is going through while walking through the duel too.

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

It hit me hard when you said "After 15 years" thanks I feel old now

[@ATATChat]

I know what you mean, LOL

[@roberthawkins4524]

Really interesting video. However, I completely disagree on your point that Dooku couldn't take down Obi Wan. The novel makes no suggestion that it is anything other than Dooku's very strong power in the dark side that takes him down. Obi Wan has proven several times that his force defences can be breached and Dooku was powerful enough to ragdoll him. Further to this, just because Obi Wan beat Anakin on Mustafaar doesn't mean he was more powerful, the circumstances aligned for him.

[@7632ios]

Obi and anis MF versions would smash Dooku lol kenobi. At that point anakin was much more powerful than Dooku and kenobi after letting go completely equalled anakin.

[@alexplaysminc.-.5922]

The catwalk fell onto Obi-Wan's legs, severing- George Lucas : DON'T CUT HIS LEG OFF! WE STILL NEED IT!

[@ATATChat]

We need the toys! And that final battle!

[@danhamilton1801]

Getting back into my Star Wars funk

[@Darthpsychonis]

I have never seen any piece of lore that says that Palpatine somehow interfered and took out Obi-wan during this fight. The only thing he does is give Anakin verbal encouragement in the script and novelization. The RotS novel clearly states that Kenobi was caught off guard by the speed of Dooku's Force attack. It was all Dooku, no extra help. Kenobi was able to beat Anakin later because his knowledge and skills make him a better match up for him, not that he was superior to Dooku. Having trained Anakin he knew his fighting style intimately, and his Form III was better suited for tanking Anakin's Form V. Add to that Anakin's blind rage at the time and it paints the picture as to why the fight turned out the way it did. Kenobi didn't beat Anakin so much as he survived long enough for Anakin to beat himself.

[@thewarner2139]

There is nothing in either continuity that states Palpatine interfered, so you are correct. He was giving an incorrect view made with personal interpretations. It is important to note that in current canon, Anakin and Obi-Wan are confirmed to be evenly matched throughout RotS. Obi-Wan triumphed on Mustafar through a combination of knowing his opponent, and having more combat and tactical experience to take the high ground, which broke their stalemate.

[@Darthpsychonis]

@@thewarner2139 Well he said up front that this was just his opinion, which is fine but he literally gives nothing to back up his clam and vaguely suggests it's mentioned in the novel when it isn't. Anakin and Obi-wan are not on the same level. Nic Gillard the stunt coordinator who designed the saber duels in the prequals had a rating system for each character and had Anakin/Vader at a level 9, the same level as Yoda and Sidious while Obi-wan was at a level 8. Kenobi's knowledge of Anakin's style and his defensive form kept him alive until Anakin made a mistake. Instead of focusing his anger, Anakin let it control him and clounded his judgment. Had he kept his mind clear he would not have made such a foolishness mistake. A lot of the duels in Star Wars are as much about the circumstances of the fight and the terrain, as it is the individual person's skill level.

[@7632ios]

Dooku actually had to cheat to breach Kenobis defense. He says it himself in the novelisation with. He deploys the droids. Otherwise kenobi could have protected himself.

[@Darthpsychonis]

@@7632ios There is no "cheating" in fights to the death. Changing tactics when one is working is the smart thing to do.

[@7632ios]

@@Darthpsychonis the argument was made that obi couldn’t take Dooku in a 1v1. Which he can esp at the end of ep 3. So no ur wrong we are discussing a specific power of one of the characters not the fight.

[@GNN_CamInFocus]

I’m curious, you mention a couple of times that Palpatine interfered in the duel. I’m not quite sure I understand. I know that Palpatine kind of grunts a bit, which seems to serve as a cue for Dooku to get Obi-Wan out of the picture, but what’s the other time you were talking about?

[@ATATChat]

So it seems like in the novel it points out that Palpatine was aiding Dooku noticing his fatigue with Obi, so he does some minor force assists if you will. At least this was my understanding of it.

[@GNN_CamInFocus]

AT-AT Chat gooootcha, I haven’t read the novel myself so I suppose that kinda flew over my head haha. Thanks for the explanation brother.

[@carefreefantasy8522]

I really like your videos! Please tell us what's next on your list. And now I will enjoy your Darth Vader vs Luke-videos.. Again.. Take care.

[@ATATChat]

Rey vs Kylo on DS2!

[@marianot5552]

Do Ahsoka vs Maul clone in season 7 of clone wars

[@infamousplayer8772]

So Anakin wasn't only NOT a Jedi Master, but he also wasn't a Form V master. P A T H E T I C

[@ATATChat]

And we weeeep NGL, I just forgot to write he was basically a master of Djem so lol

[@savobgoofy]

Would love to see dual of the fates

[@HufflinPuffs]

The last dance! 😂 I wasn't ready. But yeah, thanks for the form breakdown. Having knowledge of them now makes sense for each of the characters at play. The other scene I give it to Hayden on is in AotC when Shmi dies, and all the emotions that cross his face. Blame a lot on bad directing and bad script.

[@japtakito8551]

Do Mace Windu vs Palpatine in Episode 3

[@JGPRIME25]

Perhaps it is just me but: Maul represents the rage Dokku represents the fallen Jedi Grievous represents the robotic parts. So combined, they would be Darth Vader.

[@chriscage669]

JOÃO GUILHERME good one! But I think grievous was a Jedi killer so makes sense that Vader is a Jedi killer

[@Demigod_3scrub]

5:00 damn.. I it would make sense for sidious to know Sith Battle Meditation techniques.. I never thought of that..Nice.. Another thing..Do you think the red crystal in dooku's saber was aiding and calling ani to the darkside as well.. Since it's embued with darkside energy..

[@attspace]

clicked so fast.. not disappointed

[@gummybearchewy5444]

Please do Asoka vs Maul in the latest Star Wars the Clone Wars episode.

[@DARILARYON]

WHY HAVEN'T YOU YET MADE AN ANALYSIS OF OBI WAN AND ANAKIN DUEL IN ROTS FINALE

[@scottmathews7282]

You should do a anakin vs obi wan analysis

[@-KingGanon]

i would like to see you do obi-wan vs Anakin

[@JohnDoe-cz3dh]

CNt wait until you do the Ashoka vs maul fight

[@runerdude141]

“This forced palpatine to use Vader the same way he did dooku, as a placeholder until a much better replacement came along in the form of Luke” Nah you mean Starkiller. WOOO!

[@chrisyoung5254]

You should analyze Kylo Ren vs Rey in TROS, there was quite a bit happening there as far as the characters and their journeys

[@jeck8005]

Literally looked past this about 12 times because I thought it was a different video. Shit myself when I realized what it was. Also this is definitely my favourite prequel duel.

[@molliethomas2585]

I gotta agree about the catwalk thing. I was binging the Saga last year and that definitely stood out. I was like "Ummm, wouldn't his legs be at least broken?" But whatever. It's soft core sci-fi.

[@yoshiwiiremotewithwiimotio2947]

Personally I think Hayden is a great actor! Sure it's been a while since I've seen the prequels or any other films he's casted, but from all analysis videos on the prequels it sound like he's doing a great job to me.

[@Butternut-sasquatch]

of all the star wars channels I watch, not a single one pronounces Soresu (as well as Makashi) the same. it’s interesting honestly- I wonder what the pronunciation was intended to be.

[@jaynicholasbrandon7247]

I wish you could do it from a classic G canon perspective, instead of C canon… like what you see on screen is the official canon, and everything else is secondary canon, even T canon.

[@morganhames]

Great Video as always At-At. Just wondering if you considered analysing Anakin Vs Obi-Wan as it's my favourite fight but also a really good one aswell! 💙

[@G34Ricky]

Loved the fight. That crossed lightsaber echoes Vader and Luke sabers in front of the Emperor in ep6.

[@tariffictypist7372]

I like the one in clone wars with dooku vs obi wan and Anakin

[@franchisefanatic4142]

remember palps is a clone in episode 9. Palps did die, it's just that his dark side spirit is alive, and now gone lol. I LOVE IT

[@danielcooke3800]

How many of u hated 7,8 and 9

[@danielcooke3800]

I think they should have stopped at 6...and made a group of different shows and stand-alone movies. Like What they r starting to do... Series and possible series... 1.The Mandolorian 2.The Old Republic 3.Fallen Order (what happened to Jedi during/after Order 66) 4.Republic Commando 5.The New Order (Luke Skywalkers Jedi Order) Stand-Alone 🎥 1. Windu : Vaapaad 2. Qui-Gon : Master and Apprentice 3. Dooku : Jedi Lost 4. Kenobi 5. Starkiller : The Force Unleashed 6. Revan : The Untold Story 7. Darth Plagius : The Wise 8. Darth Traya : Lord of Betrayal 9. Ahsoka : A Padawan's Story 10. Rise of Ren

[@CamSeanoaTolls26]

Haden did Great I don't give AF bout what people say lol

[@ATATChat]

ROTS was his prime time A game

[@CamSeanoaTolls26]

@@ATATChat I personally and more of a fan of the precools because it gives context to the originals as well as the fact that as a sociology major in college made it fascinating. I do completely understand why Anakin was the way he was from the whininess to the entitlement to everything but that's a whole Nother conversation that I believe warrants a video of its own because people were way more critical of that in terms of him as a character than they should've been. I feel like they wanted Aniken to be like Vader; when there were two totally different beings that Occupied the body at different places in time.

[@danielcooke3800]

Actually Anakin Skywalker uses form V with offset of form IV - Ataru Form V shien : Anakin's opening stance Designed to ward off blaster bolts. Djem So : Anakin switches his form v in order to redirect Dooku's attacks and overpower him...combined with his secondary form Ataru...which is aggressive and known for using for incorporating martial arts and Force-fuelled attacks. (Yoda uses form IV) Darth Vader is known to incorporate makashi techniques into his lightsaber combat form...his main style remains form V as always...although it was modified to compensate for his cybernetic body.