Analogue Nt Mini Noir OCD Settings Guide

[@RedArremer]

Special note: The artifacts I was getting randomly on core load and the one time it dropped to 480p were both the result of the cheap HDMI splitter I used to break out digital audio. So it wasn't the fault of the Noir. Going straight into the capture card or display does not have any problems. Also I apologize for the vertical centering being off in 5x NES scaling, I've updated the text file with the correct vertical position of 45. Cheers!

[@gamezguy71]

Excellent job! This gives me such an easy guide to where I didn't have to spend all that time myself dialing everything in, plus you've went much farther than I would have if I was "eyeballing" it. You and Kevtris and all the others are such assets to the retro game community. Unrelated really, but I also love your Silent Hill soundtrack collections on your page, excellent work my dude!

[@Schmeck626]

Can't wait to check these settings out. Thanks FirebrandX!

[@paisleyboxers]

Thank you for putting this amazing work in today! This is AMAZING!

[@xhrisbaddaker]

The text file mentions cropped, but there's no settings mentioned for overscan cropping.

[@danielmedeiros2385]

Hi! I would like to know if your "SNES DA RW" kit is available for purchase. I sent you an email the other day and still haven't gotten a response.

[@100Megashock]

I have an N8 Pro flash cartridge,should I let It handle the cartridge audio? Or Is the NT mini audio more accurate?

[@lucabops4778]

It would be awesome to do a video for the mister

[@skins4thewin]

Did you send these findings to Kevtris? I sure hope so. Would love to see some of these minor issues get fixed in future firmware updates. I will say that it's really nice to see Kevtris updating all of the cores this time around, considering he never touched any of them after their initial release on the original NT Mini. Seems this thing is only going to get better and rightfully so, considering how polished the MISTer cores are becoming.

[@RedArremer]

As I mentioned a couple times in the video, they have been submitted to the github, and Kevtris knows about them now.

[@skins4thewin]

@@RedArremer My apologies, that's good to know. Hopefully Kevtris takes the advice and updates the cores accordingly.

[@skins4thewin]

@Majax And here I thought this might get regular support this time, but seems this turned out just like the NT Mini before it. Such a shame to see for a $500 device! This is no way to treat the customers who paid so much for these... Specially true when there are glaring issues that should not be that hard to fix. I know Kevtris is busy and with the Pocket being so successful the companies focus has shifted, but stopping to show some attention to the products customers paid so much for should be an absolute must!

[@matthewdavis5486]

Hi Firebrand. Thank you for making this video. If I wanted to fill the 1080 canvas 100% vertically, what do you recommend for horizontal width? I wanted this with the regular NT mini but you couldn’t without shimmer.

[@RedArremer]

Refer to the text file in the description. You'll need the Noir version for interpolation on both axis.

[@matthewdavis5486]

@@RedArremer Oh snap! Didn't see that in the description. I really have to look at those more often... Thank you and thanks again for all the work you do for the retro gaming community. It's greatly appreciated.

[@mlc4050]

Nice work

[@Y2Jay99]

Since you probably won't post the new mega SG settings can you explain why the 4.5 x settings change for the NT mini Genesis core over the old mega SG one and do you think they applied to the last mega SG settings?

[@dougherty12124312]

Thank you for the video as always! There's no way to save a 4x and 5x 'profile', correct? Have to manually adjust the Noir's video settings every time you want to change?

[@RedArremer]

Correct, which is why I stick with 4x on NES and Genesis.

[@yllib2012]

What's the process for saving game states on ROMs running on the NES core? I've yet to find a way to save and load game states for NES games with the Jailbroken NT Mini Noir. It's super easy with the EverDrive N8 Pro Flash cart but seems impossible with only the game running on the NES core from SD card. Nothing I have tried gets my progress saved. As is, my EverDrive N8 Pro is just as valuable to me as the Mini Nt Noir. Unless there is a way to save progress that I'm overlooking the EverDrive N8 Pro is an absolute must have accessory.

[@RedArremer]

I don't believe there are 'save states' in the Noir. It can save battery saves as long as you back out to the games menu to give the machine as chance to save your battery save. But as for save states, I do believe you need the flashcart for that.

[@xenrich147]

Hi, FirebrandX. Would you happen to know of a substitute power supply for the Noir? Mine isn't powering on at all. It did in the past, but no longer. Or maybe you might know what I can do troubleshoot it. Thank you in advance! Always enjoy your work.l

[@RedArremer]

You may have a fried console, in which case, you'd want to return it to Analogue for repair. If it's just the PSU, I've got an entry for the Noir near the bottom of my PSU directory: www.firebrandx.com/triads.html

[@xenrich147]

Thanks so much for the quick reply, FirebrandX! I just order a PSU thanks to your helpful link. I'm definitely bookmarking that page. 😃 I'm hoping that's all it is. If not, I'll send it back for repairs. Like all of us, I waited months for that unit, and it kind of sucks that I'm having an issue with it, but it's not typical from what I can tell since I have their Super NT and Mega SG that have been working perfectly. Thank you again for helping me as you've done in the past.

[@gametourny4ever627]

Have you experienced any game incompatibility? Bucky O Hare glites out when you start the game and Metroid has the vertical lines of dots when started up meanwhile they both work great on my Nes. All other games I tested worked fine.

[@gametourny4ever627]

@@majax6703 Yeah. They ended up fixing it with the firmware update. Hopefully that last one took care of everything.

[@Dark-Hound]

This video is great, but could you go over your scanlines settings? Like "normal scanline depth", "scanline width", and "scanline sub brightness" in regards to your NES 4x and 5x settings? I have not been able to get anything that looks good up to this point just playing around on my own. I'm running on a 1080p screen.

[@michaelcuellar59]

Try 150 sub brightness and 46 thru 48 width, normal scanlines depth 0.

[@RedArremer]

I hadn't done scanlines because it's not my 'thing', but a lot of people have been asking about them. I may do a followup video addressing this and a few other clarifications, plus maybe finish all the DAR for the remaining cores.

[@Hawk_Eye_Retro]

Thank you for the video! Quick question for you. Is there any way to avoid vertical shimmering seen in some NES titles? For example gremlins 2, first level. I've played with your settings and still seem to get it. Thanks again, love your work!

[@RedArremer]

Did you try one of the integer scale profiles? If so, then the shimmering may be because the game doesn't scroll one pixel at a time, and that will cause shimmering on a digital display. I'll look into it myself and get back to you.

[@RedArremer]

Okay I checked it out and that's just pattern shimmer rather than pixel error. One way you can confirm is to turn on 'normal' scanlines. if they look nice and even, then you know the shimmer is just pattern artifacts on a digital display.

[@Hawk_Eye_Retro]

@@RedArremer Thanks for looking into!!! I was just curious to hear your opinion on it. Thanks again for the great content!

[@dougherty12124312]

Any settings advice for people using a Krikzz (Everdrive) N8 Pro? MANY of us use those since you can save at any point, unlike the jailbreak. I'm interested in the expansion audio - I have the USA size cartridge (for nostalgia) and NOT the Famicom N8 Pro. Think I'm limited on the extra audio channels when I use the N8 Pro with the Noir?

[@Izquierda]

Noir does not take cartridge expansion audio from the NES slot, so you'll need a Famicom version of the N8 Pro, or use the Noir's simulated expansion chips.

[@RedArremer]

Just turn on expansion audio in the Noir menu and leave the cart audio at default of 45. You will need to use a Famicom N8 or N8 Pro. The N8 Pro's defaults for expansion audio are much closer to a real cart.

[@dougherty12124312]

@@RedArremer That's what I unfortunately thought. Wasn't going to get the Famicom version as I've never even seen a Famicom cart in-person, and didn't want that unfamiliar form sticking up out of my Noir. I thought the N8 Pro (and the regular non-pro too) used the FPGA to do the extra Japan/Famicom audio channels - even when you used a USA cart on a real NES - all that's needed on your NES is a single resistor added bridging two pins... but I guess that's not possible on the Noir. Oh well, I'm finished going through Japan-only ROM's and only a dozen or two games I would ever want to play (so far at least... it's a big library to go through ;)

[@RedArremer]

@@dougherty12124312 Yeah I have a guide on how to get expansion audio working on a NESRGB-modded front-loader on my web site, so I'm well familiar with how it works. Unfortunately the Noir does not support expansion audio from the NES cart slot. Only the Famicom slot. It may be possible to mod the Noir itself, but I'm not opening mine up. I heard from a couple people that tried, and little springs jumped out all over the place. Don't want to go there, LoL!

[@jamon1567]

Regarding your resolution not saving. Did you make sure to press start when you changed it? That is where it will save. I know I've forgotten that myself and wondered why it wasn't saving.

[@RedArremer]

It was just a failsafe drop to 480p because my cheap HDMI splitter wasn't ready for it.

[@jamon1567]

@@RedArremer Ah gotcha. Anyway, great vid and thanks for the work you put in.

[@GuSTaVauMJRI]

Do you use scanlines on NT Mini Noir, Firebrandx? I've never found any optimal settings for it, just for the Super NT and Mega SG...

[@RedArremer]

I do not, however, as long as the vertical is set to an integer like my recommended settings, scanlines will look good when dialed in.

[@rockhyde7775]

The NT Noir bootup sounds like something you’d hear on the Genesis! Yamaha FM use there?

[@ipatchphd]

It's a Roland TB-303 :)

[@rockhyde7775]

@@ipatchphd Oh. Okay.

[@jaredbrown691]

I tried to load up the 7800 core but it keeps telling me “core loading error!” I dropped the 7800 bios in the bios folder and even tried to rename it 7800bios.bin but nothing works. Am I grabbing the wrong bios file perhaps?

[@RedArremer]

Yeah the BIOS files have to be very specific to the Noir for several of the cores. I downloaded a Smokemonster pak that has all the correct BIOS files ready to go. I can't say where I got it either, so you know how that goes.

[@jaredbrown691]

@@RedArremer cool, I’ll keep looking and reach out to smoke if I still can’t get it to work.

[@michaelspector1274]

We need updated settings for nt mini , super nt and mega sg. They all have new firmware updates. Please and thank you

[@skins4thewin]

Hope this is ok to ask, but who was the 2nd person you referenced who's ROM packs you grabbed for this? I already have all the preexisting SmokeMonster ROM packs, but what was the name you gave? TStogie? I couldn't really understand what you said. I don't need links, I can probably track them down myself, but I do need the name you mentioned as I couldn't understand what you said in the vid. Thanks in advance :)

[@RedArremer]

Tstogy. If you have Smokemonster paks, the "Game Collections" folder was arranged by TStogy. Cheers!

[@skins4thewin]

@@RedArremer Ah nice, thanks for the info!

[@BennionChris]

Hello! Thank you so much for this, very much appreciated. Just a quick question: in your video you have the NES 5x vertical position set to 50, but in your notes you have 45. I’m still watching the video so not sure yet if you correct yourself or maybe I misread.

[@RedArremer]

The text file has all the latest information, including corrections. I make notes with a date stamp at the top of the file to show what has been updated. So of course always use what the text file shows rather than the video. Also my pinned comment details this error. Cheers!

[@alexeymtb]

This is highly HIGHLY appreciated! Especially putting it in a text file as well (which you can update if future firmware updates to the system come out). Question: in SMS, why use cropping instead of "mask all borders" (inside advanced features)?

[@tristamson]

You're not using any cropping in the Genesis core. What is the reason of not using it? Or us it different for different games?

[@tristamson]

Oh, I guess you're not using cropping, but instead the extra features option "mask borders". Am I right?

[@RedArremer]

@@tristamson There's an option to disable CRAM dots, which is normally why you would mask borders. However, you can easily adjust cropping on games like Golden Axe if it becomes an issue with colored borders.

[@Elrinth]

1st of all, great job with all the settings, thank you for sharing these! *liked n subscribd Some minor nitpicks: What is your motivation to leave +1 instead of 0 for boot time? Why are you hard powering off all the time? you can simply go back in the roms menu and you can select a new core again.

[@RedArremer]

+1 is a safety measure as the manual for the Noir states some displays may have issues with instant data being sent through the HDMI cable. The hard powering off was due to my cheap HDMI splitter causing artifacts (which still happened a couple times anyway). I pinned a notice about that.

[@Elrinth]

@@RedArremer Ahh, thank you for this clarification.

[@quantumstix]

These settings make the Core look completely off on the Intellivision 720p, 60Hz. You do mention that there is an issue - is this it?

[@RedArremer]

Did you use the ones from the text file for 720p? I can double-check, but let me know how it looks off so I know what to look for. Thanks!

[@quantumstix]

@@RedArremer I did use the text file. If you look at a game like Tron Deadly Discs it had sort of squashed together lines at intervals down the screen. Hybrid lines didn't it.

[@RedArremer]

@@quantumstix Okay I will have a look at it. It's possible it uses some sort of weird mode different from other games, or possibly some other reason, but I'll find out and get back to you.

[@RedArremer]

@@quantumstix I figured out the problem: 3x scale has a typo in that I wrote 567 instead of 576. Please use 576 and the scanlines will look fine. In future, be sure to let people know you're using scanlines and those are what look off. I could have sussed this out much faster if I had known. Sorry about that!

[@quantumstix]

@@RedArremer Thanks a lot fella. Your work on this stuff is much appreciated...

[@Izquierda]

Random fact: planets like Earth are not perfectly circular (spherical) but rather flattened at the poles. Those designers must have taken astronomy courses :)

[@RedArremer]

Except in this case, DAR elongates the planets at the poles.

[@larsontown]

This is very appreciated, thank you for the video.

[@skins4thewin]

I gotta say, that Valis 3 music is pretty damn dope!

[@RedArremer]

The whole soundtrack for it is kickass. Check it out sometime!

[@skins4thewin]

So I noticed you said to leave Horizontal Interpolation on due to the settings for the other cores, but aren't these settings core specific? Does the NOIR not save an individual set of settings for each core as far as the Interpolation goes? If not then that seems like a rather poor oversight that is hopefully corrected in a future update, as it very much should save your interpolation settings for each core since you are of course going to be using different aspect ratio settings for each.

[@RedArremer]

I don't believe I ever said that, but if it came out that way, that wasn't my intention. The Noir does save settings not only on a core basis, but output basis as well. So there are six different settings lists for each core based on output resolution.

[@skins4thewin]

@@RedArremer Ah ok, good to know. At the 5:59 mark you mention leaving Horizontal Interpolation on because you will be needing it for other cores, however if it saves on a core by core basis then there would be no reason to leave it on in that one instance if you don't want to, as it won't affect those other cores anyway. Do I have that right?

[@RedArremer]

@@skins4thewin It was meant as a generalization, not literal. My apologies for that.

[@skins4thewin]

@@RedArremer Ah I gotcha, perhaps I misunderstood. All good. Thanks for the awesome video with all the settings tips!

[@Mario00064]

Do the Genesis core settings also work for Mega SG?

[@RedArremer]

The centering is slightly different on the Mega Sg, but the resolutions and interpolation can be used.

[@JohnSmith-zl8rz]

Please do other video for the Super NT! thanks!

[@RedArremer]

If you look at my video uploads list, you'll find a couple of Super Nt videos I did. One was a followup to show a faster method I missed. Cheers!

[@tisfoofsit]

@@RedArremer Thank you for your contribution to our community! You rock! Would there be something similar for the previous version (Nt Mini - not noir)?

[@skins4thewin]

So I have my Noir booted up now, and is it just me or are the values they give for width & height COMPLETELY wrong? For example, when Height is set to 4x, it says that 1706 is 4:3 for 16:9 which is obviously WAAYYYYYYY off. That's much MUCH wider than what 4:3 is supposed to be. In fact, literally all of the indications that appear seem to be way way off. Is this just an error with this firmware or what? I am using the latest jailbreak, v6.5. I'm honestly quite surprised this hasn't been fixed yet. It makes me wonder if Kevtris really is paying attention to your submissions like he should.

[@RedArremer]

Yes they are in error. He knows about my suggestions, and said it takes time to recode everything. Not sure if it will actually be done, but hopefully it will.

[@skins4thewin]

@@RedArremer It's 2 years later, do you know if these were ever fixed? I honestly haven't used my NOIR much since then, but if fixes were made then it may rekindle my interest. I sure hope this platform wasn't abandoned so shortly after release...

[@RedArremer]

@@skins4thewin Hasn't been an update in a while, but I did post the last settings I updated on my Twitter feed last year.

[@skins4thewin]

@@RedArremer Well thanks for helping to deal w the issues at least. Yer doing great work & it's much appreciated!