Analysis: Taunting and Mind Games

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@PKiX
@PKiX 7 жыл бұрын
"When a little girl cries because she hears her dad putting ice cubes in a glass. " Holy shit that escalated quickly
@blinkshadown
@blinkshadown 7 жыл бұрын
PK NEIN lmao
@Lowtan
@Lowtan 7 жыл бұрын
PK NEIN i didn't get it at first. went from "why would that make a kid cry?" to "holy fuck that's why...". took all of 3 seconds.
@YoungTheFish
@YoungTheFish 7 жыл бұрын
I still don`t get it XD.......
@PKiX
@PKiX 7 жыл бұрын
YoungTheFish give it a minute
@YoungTheFish
@YoungTheFish 7 жыл бұрын
ohhh....
@sotijas
@sotijas 7 жыл бұрын
do you think pavlov ever thought about feeding his dogs when he heard a bell ringing?
@zenitram4th
@zenitram4th 7 жыл бұрын
Now that's some deep shit.
@sotijas
@sotijas 7 жыл бұрын
piling on the layers
@shadowblaster124
@shadowblaster124 7 жыл бұрын
Gaze into the abyss
@lukemuench8369
@lukemuench8369 6 жыл бұрын
Or putting ice cubes in his glass before beating his children?
@BudLeiser
@BudLeiser 6 жыл бұрын
Mindblown!
@adeptusyagoncius2938
@adeptusyagoncius2938 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, so next time someone Tbags me i am just gonna acuse him/her of warcrimes
@THElarry27
@THElarry27 5 жыл бұрын
oh you teabagged me? looks like somebody's goin' to jail for W A R C R I M E S
@zaodedong9935
@zaodedong9935 4 жыл бұрын
You know what? Fuck Geneva and her convention.🤣 *Proceeds to rapidly teabag*
@mascar1lha
@mascar1lha 4 жыл бұрын
@@THElarry27 You only go to jail for war crimes if you lose tho ;p
@happycamperds9917
@happycamperds9917 4 жыл бұрын
mascar1lha Bruh moment.
@ner9469
@ner9469 4 жыл бұрын
But where is the war?
@Ryusuta
@Ryusuta 4 жыл бұрын
There needs to be a sequel to this discussing the "taunt-to-get-bodied" phenomenon. I'm genuinely serious on this.
@vhscrust7872
@vhscrust7872 3 жыл бұрын
the what now?
@Ryusuta
@Ryusuta 3 жыл бұрын
@@vhscrust7872 It's a thing in fighting games (and especially Smash) where a person taunts after getting a round/stock and then proceeds to get their ass handed to them.
@HearsayBot
@HearsayBot 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ryusuta Happens a ton in other esports too, R6 has the now infamous "GG don't ever type again ty"
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 3 жыл бұрын
@@HearsayBot I think it's a universal rule that one of the most satisfying things ever is to demolish someone who talked shit, and the expanded versions having teammates trash talk you the entire game only for you to carry the whole thing.
@krazysamurai
@krazysamurai 2 жыл бұрын
he accidentally touched on this when he was talking about how anger makes you take more risks
@TheMamaluigi300
@TheMamaluigi300 5 жыл бұрын
Player: *presses down 5 times* Gandhi, an intellectual: *wiffs light punch 5 times*
@dylanmcnab3479
@dylanmcnab3479 4 жыл бұрын
Our lord and savior Gandhi
@mangaprofilepicture5820
@mangaprofilepicture5820 4 жыл бұрын
The energy of a legend
@philiphunt-bull5817
@philiphunt-bull5817 4 жыл бұрын
_True power_
@Descro382
@Descro382 3 жыл бұрын
Screw it nuke em
@KineticManiac
@KineticManiac 3 жыл бұрын
@@Descro382 Wrong Gandhi, and also wrong game. 😅
@Alleiptr
@Alleiptr 7 жыл бұрын
So what did we learn today, kids? -Emotion matters a lot in fighting games and competitions overall -Taunting is a powerful tool to get the upper hand on your opponent. -There are a lot of ways to taunt your opponent and they may have different effects, from -putting them off their game to actually motivating them to try harder -Core-A Gaming had a rough childhood.
@DWN-024ShadowMan
@DWN-024ShadowMan 7 жыл бұрын
Asdas Qweqw 😂😂😂😂😂
@dextrodemon
@dextrodemon 7 жыл бұрын
perhaps for the last one "no-one in the comment section did psych 101" is more appropriate lol.
@Colair122
@Colair122 7 жыл бұрын
Asdas Qweqw insomniac...great taste bro
@BBGirlSamus
@BBGirlSamus 6 жыл бұрын
omg😂😂😂 are you talking about I C E C U B E S
@J0ker306
@J0ker306 6 жыл бұрын
That last one tho 😂
@wophful
@wophful 7 жыл бұрын
Might actually be my favorite KZbin channel ever. I love analytical videos and I love esports and being one of the only analytical esports channels out there makes this my all time favorite.
@denodagor
@denodagor 7 жыл бұрын
I have a total playtime in fighting game of about 30 mins, but I still love these videos.
@LiteralBacon
@LiteralBacon 7 жыл бұрын
DJ Howard gg
@TaraRaeDev
@TaraRaeDev 7 жыл бұрын
Great episode!!!
@adribier
@adribier 7 жыл бұрын
I not even into fighting games and I love this channel, his content is always interesting
@henplay7399
@henplay7399 7 жыл бұрын
DJ Howard sameeeee
@in_vas_por8810
@in_vas_por8810 7 жыл бұрын
"a child cries just by hearing the sound of her father putting ice cubes in his glass" thats some dark shit man.
@warlordgon
@warlordgon 4 жыл бұрын
At least there was a warning
@andreassmed2255
@andreassmed2255 4 жыл бұрын
Boooo!
@marrowyoutube
@marrowyoutube 4 жыл бұрын
wait ...oh
@arielbadw1368
@arielbadw1368 3 жыл бұрын
please explain
@andreassmed2255
@andreassmed2255 3 жыл бұрын
No, if you don’t get it, you don’t want to get it.
@LukeCrockerExellence
@LukeCrockerExellence 5 жыл бұрын
"Cancel into Fistbump" had to pull that three times today, I'm bad at this...
@BoundaryBreak
@BoundaryBreak 4 жыл бұрын
Always knew this. But never seen it explained before in such a precise way. Thank you for the vid sir
@poggersuni9637
@poggersuni9637 4 жыл бұрын
didn't think I'd find you here.
@retr016
@retr016 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t think I’d find you here.(1)
@darkbobblackpants9747
@darkbobblackpants9747 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t think I’d find you here.(2)
@mr.hippopotamus1792
@mr.hippopotamus1792 4 жыл бұрын
Oh hi mark
@lukemoses7827
@lukemoses7827 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t think I’d find you here (3)
@YoungTheFish
@YoungTheFish 7 жыл бұрын
Today I learn a new term in fighting game call CREDIT CARD SWIPE! now that`s badass.
@Toomnyusernae
@Toomnyusernae 7 жыл бұрын
Strange. E. Honda's fierce is the pork chop isn't it?
@henplay7399
@henplay7399 7 жыл бұрын
YoungTheFish sameeee
@Eastsid3
@Eastsid3 7 жыл бұрын
I laughed real hard at that part
@X3n0n36
@X3n0n36 7 жыл бұрын
Here goes another one: In latin America Zangief's Screw piledriver it's called "El chupa poto" (the ass licker)
@blinkshadown
@blinkshadown 7 жыл бұрын
Cnovsky never heard it... maybe in your country only....
@alturkeiabdullah
@alturkeiabdullah 7 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that ' Taunt to get bodied ' is a thing.
@CoreAGaming
@CoreAGaming 7 жыл бұрын
Best feeling in the world.
@mikaera934
@mikaera934 7 жыл бұрын
You like to get bodied after taunting? To each his own ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@arnetheussolitariusv0.964
@arnetheussolitariusv0.964 7 жыл бұрын
Maximillian Dood says hi?
@LieseFury
@LieseFury 7 жыл бұрын
Taunt Lcancel 4stock is true combo
@ESOFguy0134
@ESOFguy0134 7 жыл бұрын
Arnetheus Solitarius i
@rspeak5768
@rspeak5768 7 жыл бұрын
Sure in real war you can't teabag anyone. They also don't respawn, so they won't have a different mindset going forward.
@rspeak5768
@rspeak5768 7 жыл бұрын
Just a thought.
@JONNYSORENSEN_AU
@JONNYSORENSEN_AU 6 жыл бұрын
Sadly i'ts just all the usual war crimes that litter history (such as mutilation of bodies, families, friends, ransacking of villages, mandated rape etc)
@Pedro-ho2xj
@Pedro-ho2xj 6 жыл бұрын
RAF Leader the Genova convention is a joke that nobody follows, so fucking sad
@SinerAthin
@SinerAthin 6 жыл бұрын
The Geneva convention is actually taken pretty seriously in late European history. Not everyone's followed it of course, but it has helped reduce the unnecessary human suffering in conventional European military wars. Of course, moving outside of Europe, where most of the petty wars and skirmishes are fought today by criminals, terrorists or ethnic groups; the Geneva convention doesn't really reach them.
@JonathanSharman
@JonathanSharman 6 жыл бұрын
This argument is flawed. Desecrating your enemies' bodies absolutely can have an effect on the morale of their surviving allies and thus be an effective tactic in war. The reason desecration, rape, etc. are outlawed is not because they are ineffective but because nations have agreed that such psychological warfare is unjustifiable and immoral.
@SorryBones
@SorryBones 5 жыл бұрын
Pavlov walks into a bar. He hears a bell ring and says, “Oh, shit! I forgot to feed my dogs.”
@happycamperds9917
@happycamperds9917 4 жыл бұрын
“Grapplers cause you to feel fear.” Except Luigi, he makes you feel the equally dangerous boredom.
@chuckydee2951
@chuckydee2951 2 жыл бұрын
Luigi and min min; the boring archetype
@josiuwu
@josiuwu Жыл бұрын
@@chuckydee2951 luigi and min min play very differently
@sewerdork6183
@sewerdork6183 Жыл бұрын
@@josiuwustill boring eitherway
@exploitativity
@exploitativity 7 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that legendary handshake > fist bump cancel
@SkyNinja759
@SkyNinja759 7 жыл бұрын
Frame perfect too. The man has put in work in the lab and he's showin' it off today!
@Scientist93
@Scientist93 7 жыл бұрын
But is it gonna kill?
@OGEdger
@OGEdger 7 жыл бұрын
_Gunpoint_ is a good game.
@Alex_Logan22
@Alex_Logan22 6 жыл бұрын
exploitativity The fist bump was up first, so more like an auto-correction
@BallyTheDog
@BallyTheDog 6 жыл бұрын
"You know my moves, don't you? Why'd you just walk into 'em like that?" Ken Masters
@voon7600
@voon7600 4 жыл бұрын
Man I hate fighting Kens
@Galaxia_EX
@Galaxia_EX 4 жыл бұрын
This should’ve been Ken’s win quote in Smash Ultimate.
@jesusmejia3417
@jesusmejia3417 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a real quote or a meme I. The community?
@BallyTheDog
@BallyTheDog 3 жыл бұрын
@@jesusmejia3417 It's one of his win quotes from Street Fighter IV.
@rusPiglets
@rusPiglets 7 жыл бұрын
Taunting in guilty gear made it right. Every time you taunted at the end of the match, enemy got 50% of the meter during the next. Pretty cool.
@animaIpath
@animaIpath 5 жыл бұрын
that’s perfect
@titusfortunus2916
@titusfortunus2916 5 жыл бұрын
@leo mendoza it's extra tilt. "Here, take the handicap. You'll need it." It not only encourages good manners, but also, when you do get the taunt and bad manners, it's that much more impactful. "I'm so confident I can mop the floor with you I'll give you a free Yellow Roman Cancel, and I'll still take it away from you." I love it because when you see a taunt in Guilty Gear, you no longer think "Wow, that dude is a scumlord. Ugh, here comes the teabags. Immature." You instead think "Oh shit, we're about to see a SHOW! In a PROFESSIONAL ENVIRONMENT, this man just handed the other man a gun and said 'you'll need it!' Someone here is going to walk away looking like an extreme loser, either the man who threw the match for himself or the man who just was given a handicap and still lost!" It turns taunting into a show, instead of an immature name-calling war.
@sebaschan-uwu
@sebaschan-uwu 4 жыл бұрын
Thats really stupid
@thegoose8663
@thegoose8663 4 жыл бұрын
Nah. That sucks.
@SokiHime
@SokiHime 4 жыл бұрын
@@sebaschan-uwu Nah, you just can't work it out with your koalabrain bruv.
@FioreFire
@FioreFire 5 жыл бұрын
I always hated getting taunted on after a bad match in smash 4 online so much, but even despite this I'm still upset about them removing taunts from smash ultimate online quickplay. I experienced the mindgame effect that taunts caused firsthand, it was something that worked, and now it's no longer an option... aaaand people have just started T-bagging instead anyway.
@АлександрСамко-к5в
@АлександрСамко-к5в 5 жыл бұрын
Popa omsk салон кожа озерная 6
@Lightning-gg5iu
@Lightning-gg5iu 5 жыл бұрын
Firecat1311 t bagging induced more salt that regular taunts
@finnfinity9711
@finnfinity9711 5 жыл бұрын
And taunts in smash are actually pretty harmless in comparison to other fighting games. In Brawlhalla there are taunts that are specifically designed to humiliate you, things like the character facepalming or sprinkling with salt makes you tilted af, especially since the game can be super frustrating at times.
@catcherj1080
@catcherj1080 5 жыл бұрын
Finn Siegel Luigi down taunt would like to have a word...
@CaptViewtiful98
@CaptViewtiful98 5 жыл бұрын
If you still want to taunt online you could just do more Arena matches.
@jaime2992
@jaime2992 2 жыл бұрын
On the slightest chance @Core-A Gaming reads this I wanted to say thank you. I saw this video going into high school and it motivated me to get into psychology. Turns out I love it and A LOT of it can be applied to fighting games. I graduated with AP points towards college and hope to make a career in it someday thanks to this
@nosteponsnek2846
@nosteponsnek2846 6 жыл бұрын
Ah the Genova convention, that piece of paper that everyone agrees with until real war starts, Then suddenly White Phosphorus falls from the sky
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil 4 жыл бұрын
Fuckin' Genova lmao
@Sportfuck
@Sportfuck 4 жыл бұрын
but the point still stands. The fact that everyone agrees, speaks of our ideals in the making. In war everything is on the line, including our lives, which means we disregard things we strive for in idealistic fashion. In video games though, you are not that desperate, because: 1.) Numbers are not a factor and you are responsible for your loss. 2.) your life is not on the line. What you said is true, but the mentioned ideals which we agree upon still stand. What Core a gaming said in the video makes sense and it actually works.
@harryradley
@harryradley 4 жыл бұрын
Is that the convention which declares that no one should be forced to fight the same RPG boss more than 3 times?
@timtomticklewagon1199
@timtomticklewagon1199 4 жыл бұрын
@@harryradley yes
@ratedr7845
@ratedr7845 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sportfuck dude, it's fucking war, you fight to live, yeah the "rules" are there, but those get thrown out the window, it's stupid to civilize war, and I'm sure the Geneva Convention aren't being followed
@linkjam
@linkjam 5 жыл бұрын
Before i knew that t-bagging was a thing in fighting games i believed that it was a way to test the connection between my opponent and I, like, (s)he was tbagging and when my connection get good i do it in response, and then proceed to fight
@oiopquatro4846
@oiopquatro4846 4 жыл бұрын
I just laughed cause it was funny
@ashtar3876
@ashtar3876 3 жыл бұрын
Good
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 3 жыл бұрын
tbh not understanding that someone is taunting you is like the best way to counter a taunt.
@ssbot3795
@ssbot3795 3 жыл бұрын
@@hedgehog3180 i would give anything to learn this power, can't tilt if I don't even know I'm being clowned 💀
@calistnway
@calistnway 2 жыл бұрын
T(est)bag
@JusticeSoulTuna
@JusticeSoulTuna 3 жыл бұрын
Taunting for me is situational. I never taunt my opponent, unless it's like casuals with a friend and we're both joking. In a competitive aspect, when I get taunted, I usual laugh because it makes me think of how stupid they'll look if they lose (assuming they taunted mid-set). As for me, my only 'taunt' is I tend to do flashy moves or pose after the round ends (usually with Lars) as a celebration for winning. Not as disrespect to my opponent, but a way to feel good about winning. If anything, by not losing my composure and winning with solid play, that's all I need.
@CacoPholey
@CacoPholey 4 жыл бұрын
"Beginning Zangief players will tend to always do their most damaging move, the spinning pile driver, whenever they get close to their opponent" Bold of you to assume beginner Zangiefs can even input SPDs
@theraymunator
@theraymunator 3 жыл бұрын
SPDs are really easy to input, though. It's only hard when you play MUGEN on a keyboard
@Scatmanseth
@Scatmanseth Жыл бұрын
This aged like milk
@FoggyFogzmeister
@FoggyFogzmeister 5 жыл бұрын
What I love about your videos is that you're so damn objective, reasonable and informative. You explain why taunting is valuable in the context of competition but also on why it is despised and you let the audience form a consensus through discussion rather than argumentation. U da man.
@BeefySmashDoods
@BeefySmashDoods 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing! -Risuno
@atari_hmb
@atari_hmb 7 жыл бұрын
AYEEE Beefy SMash doods
@Ripnomouse
@Ripnomouse 7 жыл бұрын
ayy
@XVINutkabob
@XVINutkabob 6 жыл бұрын
Beefy Smash Doods snore -my dog that is 1 human year older then me
@TheSonic497
@TheSonic497 7 жыл бұрын
"The grappler archetype is used to insight fear." *shows Cerabella Umm....uhh yeah! Definitely fear! I definitely feel the blood rush.. somewhere...
@nov-kun2071
@nov-kun2071 5 жыл бұрын
All that joke aside, If you're playing seriously and the enemy Cerebella was op... You know what will happen.
@voidbg7017
@voidbg7017 5 жыл бұрын
@@nov-kun2071 *raises hand* um mr. @nov-kun i know the answer she teaches you how to stay in the air until u die from being stabbed by a sword in her boots is that correct?
@UltraEpicLeader10020
@UltraEpicLeader10020 5 жыл бұрын
Lewd
@nov-kun2071
@nov-kun2071 5 жыл бұрын
@@voidbg7017 Whatever you think it is... Is correct but I have my own method of what might happen. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@CallieSqueakz
@CallieSqueakz 5 жыл бұрын
Well, it’s certainly away from the stomach.
@GarrettStelly
@GarrettStelly 5 жыл бұрын
"Cancel into fist bump" Jeez you really know how to bring out the awkward nature of professional video gaming
@siientvoice
@siientvoice 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact - before this video I didn't even know what tbagging is, it always looked silly to me and I thought opponent either prepares for next move this way or has trouble with input Sigh, now I know and it seems I'm gonna lose that tbag immunity I had all these years
@ToliG123
@ToliG123 5 жыл бұрын
The dark humor thrown in to spice things up a bit is appreciated.
@poseidonsmafia1160
@poseidonsmafia1160 5 жыл бұрын
„Seems like a cool video“ *watches video which explains why pigeons can play ping-pong*
@albertohernandezgastelu9916
@albertohernandezgastelu9916 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, this is pretty much maining Dedede in a nutshell
@lmao2302
@lmao2302 6 жыл бұрын
I hate Dedede for that very reason. I hope he's more garbage in smash 5.
@geoterra9478
@geoterra9478 5 жыл бұрын
laying on the ground so seductively... I love him for the various ways he can taunt opponents
@d.s.alcoda
@d.s.alcoda 5 жыл бұрын
My Dedede friend can be be down three stocks, at 160%, and finally take a stock with a random dash attack. And you KNOW he's gonna hit that sick Crouch On Ya, staring smugly into your eyes through the screen. Seen him make some sick comebacks just through the sheer power of that pose
@blueheart9873
@blueheart9873 5 жыл бұрын
@@lmao2302 Ha, he went from bottom tier to high tier
@thecrimsonaxe6037
@thecrimsonaxe6037 5 жыл бұрын
He can taunt online in ultimate. And they say Sakurai isn't biased...
@mozaik-inc
@mozaik-inc Жыл бұрын
Mark Brown from GMTK recommended this channel and honestly this was a top tier subscription. Love how you dove into the psychology and implementation of taunting as an aspect of gaming/competitive sports
@eighthgate842
@eighthgate842 5 жыл бұрын
I love how I can return to these videos at any moment and be reminded of how beautiful fighting games truly are
@alltheworldsastage4785
@alltheworldsastage4785 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, the Fighting Game genre is my favourite genre, and to have an entire You Tube channel dedicated to it, with also such high quality, is like a Nerd's dream come true.
@justviewing8387
@justviewing8387 7 жыл бұрын
I get pretty pissed even when bots taunt me but I know that it's something I have to condition myself to. T-bagging should totally be allowed imo because even if it pisses people off; those people *need* to be able to laugh it off if they ever want to reach #1.
@pancakes7483
@pancakes7483 3 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone laugh it off after the person intentionally wanted to be a dick to the other person. That's a person punching someone in the face and then telling them to respect them for doing it.
@disorder3182
@disorder3182 7 ай бұрын
​@@pancakes7483nobody punching you in the face irl buddy If you get pissed off of a pixel on your screen going up and down, maybe get some help.
@xLesbihonest69x
@xLesbihonest69x 7 жыл бұрын
Every time CoreAGaming uploads a fighting game analysis video I deadass drop everything I'm doing and watch it
@thedanhibiki6960
@thedanhibiki6960 7 жыл бұрын
you single?
@xLesbihonest69x
@xLesbihonest69x 7 жыл бұрын
the dan hibiki nah I stop during sex for Core A
@PomLamb
@PomLamb 7 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video. I especially love the topic that was covered particularly. Mental games and e-sports is becoming more realized and well known now more then ever especially in a professional setting. Keep up the good work.
@SkyNinja759
@SkyNinja759 7 жыл бұрын
When people are refining the games themselves to this extent, people will search outside the game to get better and obtain the upper hand. It's human nature, perfect something so flawless that a new way of elevating the outcome is needed. Stone to bronze to iron, etc. Competitive gaming is branching out now. Mind games is always the first in a non-athletic sport. Although watch VR in 20-30 years become so good that gamers will have to be in top physical condition to perform. That's the ultimate step in this community's progression, the merging of regular sports with e-sports since the holodeck will eventually be a thing. That or the Matrix, either seem like a fitting end goal.
@PomLamb
@PomLamb 7 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that there will be a day where vr makes its way into professional gaming, but having a video game that requires physical abilities of an athlete seems impractical. I say this because being an actual sports athlete pays way more then e-sports and if people are physically fit to be great athlete that they would be better off trying to be a pro athlete and not a pro gamer. Also the capabilities of future tech vr is scary. I shudder to see the day they decide to create vr that emulates pain. I don't know about you but I would not want to know how a ryu uppercut feels irl. As for vr and professional gaming is concerned pro gaming can run perfectly fine without vr.
@daniellemurnett2534
@daniellemurnett2534 5 жыл бұрын
"Cancel into fistbump" - Gerald from Core-A gaming 2017
@w2.ill_
@w2.ill_ 6 жыл бұрын
I'm very new to fighting games and I've been watching your videos religiously. Not only did I learn a lot of valuable things about fighting games in general, I learned a lot of other "miscellaneous" knowledge (in the case of this video, how the Geneva Convention came to be) as well. Your videos are so well-researched and well put together, I love them! You earned yourself a subscriber! Keep doing what you do!
@TylerJudon
@TylerJudon 7 жыл бұрын
Hey I've been binge watching your videos for a few days now, and I've gotta say you've got me legitimately interested in giving fighting games another try. I think the biggest reason they turned me off was because they just seemed impossible to play, but looking back I think it's because I just didn't understand them. I think I'll try again with the 1st injustice since I already have that game. Thanks for giving me an insight on a part of gaming I initially never thought about. Keep up the good work on the channel!
@JONNYSORENSEN_AU
@JONNYSORENSEN_AU 6 жыл бұрын
In fairness, fighting games have only gotten more and more complex over the years. Great for skill fiends and the dedicated - everybody else not so much. I like skill, but I'm not good enough to play much of anything (used to play the earliest Streets Fighters, Samurai Showdown, Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter, Tekken, King of Fighters for fun, used to know the movesets for pretty much every major game from 88-2004) but I also hate games like DC vs Mortal Kombat - to me they are shitty broken games with no flow to them, and no depth. I used to love fighting games, but now I find no joy in them at all - they have all gotten so complicated they just turn me off. My fav is/was King of fighters 98 - again for fun - so many games old and new are "broken" for tournament play, but still great games in their own right.
@FlaccidEntertainment
@FlaccidEntertainment 6 жыл бұрын
I used to think that Mortal Kombat and Injustice were the best fighting games. Please believe me when I say that they won't do much for you. Go pick up Street Fighter 4, it's a good place to start, and getting good at it, makes you better at all fighting games.
@hps362
@hps362 6 жыл бұрын
same tbh
@luketaylor9709
@luketaylor9709 6 жыл бұрын
Melee tho 👀
@TheAweDude1
@TheAweDude1 5 жыл бұрын
Protip: if you are right handed, try with a left-handed stick. It seems counter-intuitive, but take a look at kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqjcfKtuiduFmac. I am terrible at traditional fighting games, and I was able to do somewhat better when I took my fight stick and just spun it 180'. Yes moving the stick left moved my character to the right, but I still think if I get a "left"handed stick I might actually be competent.
@thebigdug
@thebigdug 7 жыл бұрын
1:50 Woah… Core-A getting real freaking meta… rough childhood?
@CoreAGaming
@CoreAGaming 7 жыл бұрын
It's a memorable example. But yeah, pretty morbid lol.
@FrenzySliver
@FrenzySliver 7 жыл бұрын
I literally burst out laughing for 30 seconds, it was so unexpected.
@PKiX
@PKiX 7 жыл бұрын
wickdaggler hehe child abuse
@PatchtheReaper99
@PatchtheReaper99 7 жыл бұрын
That's real mental damage. Stun
@Se7enRemain
@Se7enRemain 7 жыл бұрын
Meta? I don't thinks that's what that means.
@TrayGChevorletCorvette
@TrayGChevorletCorvette 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the gaming analysis on this channel, you break things down so good dude. Wish you were my teacher in school I would've learned alot more. When I get Smash online for the switch imma come rewatch your vids. So I can get good
@rexieyoung951
@rexieyoung951 3 жыл бұрын
Four years ago and the beauty and intrucacy got me tearing up. Core-A you guys are analytical gods.
@MistralNorthwind
@MistralNorthwind 4 жыл бұрын
I always strongly believed 'teabagging' and 'taunting' are like humor: you gotta know when is needed and spot on, and when is unnecesary and gone too far.
@jeddahjeddah4280
@jeddahjeddah4280 3 жыл бұрын
There is no humor or honour in doing something Dirty like that The people who does this will not be respected
@pmadood6970
@pmadood6970 5 жыл бұрын
I love when someone tbags me it gets me all hyped and it's easier to win then, so I appreciate it.
@azard3
@azard3 7 жыл бұрын
Love the that Skullgirls track you used :3
@Ai-fj1dc
@Ai-fj1dc 7 жыл бұрын
Ra's Al-Ghul Skullgirls forever
@azard3
@azard3 7 жыл бұрын
Filia
@NanTheDark
@NanTheDark 7 жыл бұрын
The Skullgirls Hype Train never stops!
@azard3
@azard3 7 жыл бұрын
Get on the train boys!
@SirMordred524
@SirMordred524 7 жыл бұрын
Valentine is best waifu.
@metalcube
@metalcube 5 жыл бұрын
doood, love your channel man! magnificent analytics with historical facts and quotes to backup your points, and tons of cool references and easter eggs in the mix to make the whole watching experience just a whole lotta fun. awesome stuff man! respect.
@uero-ro
@uero-ro 5 жыл бұрын
The most interesting part of this topic is how the same action can induce so many different reactions from different players. For me, being taunted or instant-killed gets me fired up and makes me more passionate to fight the next round harder. In net play when you often have little to no communication with your opponent, taunting is sometimes my only way of communicating with the opponent during the match, even if my intended message "recognize your weakness, focus and fight me" can interpreted completely differently.
@riceboybebop7018
@riceboybebop7018 6 жыл бұрын
My god i love your videos and while i am nowhere near that level of passion for fighting games i still enjoy your videos because the majority of topics you bring up and explain is also relevant in real life fighting or martial arts
@versenh.1982
@versenh.1982 3 жыл бұрын
Taunting in real life and most video games: mental tactic that plays off your opponent's anger and ego Taunting in Punch Out: what the hell are you doing, you're literally giving Little Mac a free star
@loz405real
@loz405real 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it shows off their cockiness perfectly, literally giving little Mac a star cuz they think they'll still win
@YTISF
@YTISF 6 жыл бұрын
Teabaging (I think) actually might have one other effect, aside of taunting. It can also distract your opponent and make your next move less predictable. This way of using teabaging, however, is more appropriate for situation, when your opponent is knocked down, not when stunned. Though I never use it myself. I’m not that good fighting player anyway.
@skillustrates
@skillustrates 7 жыл бұрын
Picking Guile against one Chun-Li yet picking Mika against another; It speaks wonders about how much of the game is played on a player-to-player level as opposed to character-vs-character. Knowing your match-ups is important, in and out of the actual game. I'm betting many would agree that Ricki is more easily flustered than MOV is; both of Du's characters exploit this mental state well, but Mika friggin' FEEDS off of it. And it all goes straight to her ass.
@t4d0W
@t4d0W 7 жыл бұрын
skillustrate its more easier to explain really. Ricki has had problems with Du's Mika all year in the CPT whenever they faced off. And MOV was not sure of the guile MU as he took losses from ISDD's Guile in EU events prior to CapCup. Just Du's. matchup calls paying off.
@skillustrates
@skillustrates 7 жыл бұрын
BludAardvark And then there's that. Thanks, I didn't know about the ISSD/MOV details.
@paleposter
@paleposter 7 жыл бұрын
Those previous matchup facts helped Du, but he actually told a story about MOV after Capcom Cup. The players were all training in different rooms. Du saw MOV was playing and training strictly against Mika. So Du, deciding he wanted to be cheeky, sat down close by MOV and practiced his Mika tech where MOV could see it. Then come capcom cup top 8 he went straight to Guile. While telling the story Du couldn't help but smile as he talked about how he saw the visible facial surprise and concern MOV had to this character pick.
@skillustrates
@skillustrates 7 жыл бұрын
paleposter Lol! Sounds like some shit I would do. The game is always being played-- on or off the sticks.
@turtleboy1188
@turtleboy1188 5 жыл бұрын
Shes hot
@cmarvel411
@cmarvel411 5 жыл бұрын
Dude may I just say your explanations in these videos are highly educational and I completely respect what you do
@colinmcneill2386
@colinmcneill2386 5 жыл бұрын
i like how you show the reference of the youtube channels you use by straight up showing the name of the channel under the video alot of us wouldnt look it up otherwise.. rare trait in youtube these days. keep killin it mang!
@chara2038
@chara2038 5 жыл бұрын
9:36 That woman is my hero, i don't know her, but i already admire her XD
@VanuchiOsu
@VanuchiOsu 5 жыл бұрын
Her name is Angela Hill
@chriswendi3825
@chriswendi3825 4 жыл бұрын
TimTomTickleWagon the undertale pfp should have given it away
@lmao2302
@lmao2302 4 жыл бұрын
simp
@3unskippableads51
@3unskippableads51 4 жыл бұрын
"The grappler archetype is designed to insight fear" HFTF Old Joseph: *happy music*
@waterPsychiatrist
@waterPsychiatrist 4 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much every character (except jotaro) in that game
@MarlowPreston
@MarlowPreston 7 жыл бұрын
4:51 I think Cerebella was designed to incite more than just fear in players.
@AirLancer
@AirLancer 7 жыл бұрын
That blood is being diverted from your brain though.
@nickclark1815
@nickclark1815 7 жыл бұрын
The ultimate distraction!
@menopausal_dad
@menopausal_dad 5 жыл бұрын
Your graphic design and pacing is amazing. The psychological aspect is so refreshing instead of just blowing off reads as a 900 IQ play. Conditioning is in everything and it scares me
@Ishax
@Ishax 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a psychologist focused on Applied Behavior Analysis; also a long time gamer, in love with fighting and first person shooter games. I found this pretty amazing and accurate. Congratulations!
@xenit7837
@xenit7837 3 жыл бұрын
"Find a counter in training mode." Ryu player: *does merengue beat*
@xenit7837
@xenit7837 Жыл бұрын
This comment is going to crush for a very specific group of people Go watch his video on reducing the skill gap and you'll get it
@jpatlan2241
@jpatlan2241 7 жыл бұрын
Totally worth the wait
@colinfly7895
@colinfly7895 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Yeah, it sucks having to wait a month or sometimes more for one of these Analysis videos but by God, Gerald delivers every single time. Any person who is into competitive anything would do right by watching these videos.
@marlonsantana21
@marlonsantana21 4 жыл бұрын
"Two major components of Mind-games are:" minds and games.
@AlluMan96
@AlluMan96 4 жыл бұрын
I think the most important bit about taunting is that rule of "Target is not of far lesser skill", which is where alot of contention with taunting online comes from I feel. An act of humiliation to rile an equal opponent is a tactical maneuver that is used to wedge the skill-gap between you, giving you control of the situation. No opponent is going to forego the chance to edge your chance of victory from 50% to 60%. Even as someone of limited nerve, I don't particularly mind getting taunted at in a heated battle and don't even feel the disrespect. On the contrary, actually. When an equal opponent has to resort to abuse my self-control to claim an edge over me, it's an assurance that I was worth using that on to lessen risks. I may not act it in the moment, but I acknowledge it and respect it the moment after. When you target someone clearly below your grade with this shit, this element becomes null and void. It stops being a tactical alternative to attacking in order to soften the opponent's resolve and becomes a hollow power-play made in bad taste to rub it in their face. Just straight up bullying that proves nothing except how much of a shit you are. It's just not on-point to make someone's already irritating situation of getting thrashed worse by beating on their self-esteem while you're at it. Overall, just save your taunts for when it's actually impressive to get away with.
@hak1111111
@hak1111111 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of team OG playing dota 2, where they spam voice lines in game during tournaments and "tip" the other team whenever they win a fight, essentially saying "sorry for destroying you, here's $1". I can only imagine the frustration on the receiving end of that
@driplegacy5338
@driplegacy5338 4 жыл бұрын
Me: losing but having a good time Them : t-bags Me: *Sweat mode activated*
@Cybrisk
@Cybrisk 4 жыл бұрын
Me: losing but having a good time Also me: taunts after getting 1 knockdown Them: *visible pause of confusion*
@redshady4182
@redshady4182 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cybrisk Joke apart, it really has an impact! Every times I get bodied first round, I start the round with a back dash and some teabags. The opponents have some weird reactions to that. Lot of possibilities, but these 2 reactions are the most commons: 1) they T-bag too even when it's dangerous and sometimes you gain good combos opportunities freely. 2) They become way more aggressive to try to show you they are totally superior. And the result is: more possibilities to punish overconfident moves.
@datadood
@datadood 7 жыл бұрын
"Cancel into fistbump." Got me right in the giggles
@guestguest9051
@guestguest9051 7 жыл бұрын
I think in game taunts should exist which affects even the gameplay. Like say give the opponent additional damage for their next attack or like Guilty Gear where in the next round, it gives your opponent half of a full meter. You can even give every character 2 types of taunts; the taunt that doesn't affect the gameplay and the one that does. With very simple things you can make the metagate so much wider and more interesting to watch for the audience. It can also be used to make more personalities for the pro community. Like that one guy who always do risky taunts and still wins consistently. Sure there's that one thing that turned pretty bad but for the most part, taunts are all in good fun.
@whatshappeninganymore2473
@whatshappeninganymore2473 6 жыл бұрын
Like Luigi's taunt in Sm4sh? Forgot which button press it was, but it had the ability to spike opponents hard if used on the ledge.
@calliph
@calliph 6 жыл бұрын
Injustice 2 has this with a couple character traits.
@sir4eyes
@sir4eyes 6 жыл бұрын
High Rollin' Armadillo His Down taunt
@TorneraFoda
@TorneraFoda 5 жыл бұрын
A bit too late. If taunt's granted bonus to the player it would probably be better to remove the name "taunt" and change to something else
@matheusaragao7640
@matheusaragao7640 5 жыл бұрын
....Like taunts in Third Strike?
@bloodtingeproto
@bloodtingeproto 3 жыл бұрын
It's always so nice to come back to Core-A gaming videos. I hope you're doing well Gerald!
@despicableree58
@despicableree58 11 ай бұрын
Bagging is so-underrated when you’re playing characters who can blow up the opponent on whiff-punish.
@pablitoww
@pablitoww 6 жыл бұрын
since i main el fuerte in ssf4ae, that lesson helped me a lot
@temporium3982
@temporium3982 6 жыл бұрын
You see the number one player? *He is a expert psychiatrist*
@normanclatcher
@normanclatcher 3 жыл бұрын
Psychiatrists are just psychologists with a license to prescribe cures. Such as, "git gud, skrub."
@KeeBlade
@KeeBlade 7 жыл бұрын
3rd Strike has the best taunts. Taunt with Q up to 3 times to damn-near _double_ your health.
@thomasbradleyh
@thomasbradleyh 7 жыл бұрын
Keegan Blade Q's taunt only works up to three times you 17er
@KeeBlade
@KeeBlade 7 жыл бұрын
what are you talking about that's what I've been saying all this time sshhhhhhh
@KeeBlade
@KeeBlade 7 жыл бұрын
NOOOO IM RUINED
@StormFortress7
@StormFortress7 3 жыл бұрын
I love these essays. Every 6 months, I swear, I binge all of these. 🤘
@xerotolerant
@xerotolerant 6 жыл бұрын
I don't even play of watch fighting games but I keep coming back to watch this video. this is some quality stuff. Good Job
@spaceracer23
@spaceracer23 6 жыл бұрын
"or when a child cries at the sound of her dad putting ice in a glass...." ......oh...well.... that got dark.
@howiemandel5787
@howiemandel5787 5 жыл бұрын
the way that punk dude talks in that interview clip reminds me of Danny brown so much lol
@westbrook_apologist7422
@westbrook_apologist7422 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr lmfaooo
@nushia7192
@nushia7192 7 жыл бұрын
oh skinner box like most mobile games?
@SireSquish
@SireSquish 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I call them directly now. The term mobile game is interchangeable with Skinner box.
@NoAimNoGain
@NoAimNoGain 4 жыл бұрын
The quality of the content of this video is outstanding. Really great job. Thank you so much for sharing it🙏😌
@rubenalarcon5085
@rubenalarcon5085 5 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely gratifying to watch. Well put together argument and well edited all around.
@lukasgauvreau8344
@lukasgauvreau8344 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed my taunting mentality changing. I taunt when someone is playing in a way that is spammy/bad so I try to show what works. But playing good players when there are great combos, kills or just matches in general I just hold my character in crouch as a bow of respect hahaha find it’s better than most things you could do in games
@ironcyr3157
@ironcyr3157 2 жыл бұрын
In a friend group where my friends repetitively taunt me for being decent, I've just given up as a whole, given that they care more about winning than making the game enjoyable
@rafael502
@rafael502 2 жыл бұрын
Just grow a pair, git gud, and taunt them right back to teach them a lesson!
@SuperiorBryce98
@SuperiorBryce98 7 жыл бұрын
I personally hate when I lose to someone and they teabag me. In my mind i'm like "Why are you teabagging me for? it was a good game". But I guess they're trying to get into my head and motivate me to beat them. Good video
@frostywasp1743
@frostywasp1743 7 жыл бұрын
SuperiorBryce98 I don't mind tea bagging especially mid game. but when i have those bad days, something is going to break lol
@DWN-024ShadowMan
@DWN-024ShadowMan 7 жыл бұрын
Frosty Wasp this guy😂😂😂😂
@Harperlarp
@Harperlarp 7 жыл бұрын
"But I guess they're trying to get into my head and motivate me to beat them" More like they're trying to motivate you to mess up by trying to anger you. If people can't win without deliberately trying to throw their opponent off by annoying them with childish disrespect they should be sad.
@Markustempest
@Markustempest 7 жыл бұрын
Scrub.
@OriginalDad
@OriginalDad 7 жыл бұрын
"If people can't win without deliberately trying to throw their opponent off by annoying them with childish disrespect they should be sad." Did you not watch the video? Getting into peoples head is part of the game man. If you LET someone irritate you by pressing down a few times then you are the sad one.
@iHIMMA
@iHIMMA 5 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to this video. I just find it so fascinating.
@iHIMMA
@iHIMMA 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@de132
@de132 5 жыл бұрын
I don't even like competitive fighting games that much. I just love this channel.
@doctorxawesomestop-motion1234
@doctorxawesomestop-motion1234 4 жыл бұрын
Normal players: conditioning and what not Me: oh, down b didn’t hit? It will this time. Oh, he punished me, it’ll hit this time. Damn it! Ok one more try...
@peep9636
@peep9636 4 жыл бұрын
Doctor X Awesome Stop-Motion lil Mac players when they miss a smash attack
@musicxxa6678
@musicxxa6678 Жыл бұрын
Imo this is core part of fighting games. Mortal Kombat literally strive on this. The whole fatality section of the game is salty and i love it.
@VannTango
@VannTango 7 жыл бұрын
What are some examples of pop offs that go too far? The first that comes to my mind is the Call of Duty player (?) who screamed "YOU'RE GOING HOME, F*GGOT" after winning a match. It was clear that everyone in the venue was not okay with that kind of behavior.
@Fortunus94
@Fortunus94 7 жыл бұрын
Got in his head, though. He took the win, though. Mind games.
@nyaxellemonte4230
@nyaxellemonte4230 7 жыл бұрын
Tim Barich Is there video of this? Can someone please link it to me?
@kendel423
@kendel423 7 жыл бұрын
It's not considered mind games if you do it after you win and you're done playing
@heardofrvb
@heardofrvb 7 жыл бұрын
Tim Barich Was he/his team disqualified?
@nyaxellemonte4230
@nyaxellemonte4230 7 жыл бұрын
heardofrvb I doubt it. It's not very sportsman like sure, but it'd be hard to make a case to DQ them for what is essentially "trash talk". It would have to be bridging harassment or uttering threats before you could justify disqualification. I've seen and heard a lot worse before. At decently sized tournaments too. People have throw controllers and chairs all the time without being disqualified. That's just top player privilege.
@ashb8205
@ashb8205 6 жыл бұрын
Love the philosophy and psychology in these videos. I'm not even good in fighting games but love these videos!!
@epicon6
@epicon6 3 жыл бұрын
6:27 wow this is so accurate. I didn't realize there are so many of these emotions but i can think of multiple situations where i've experienced all of these emotions during fighting games!
@mimszanadunstedt441
@mimszanadunstedt441 4 жыл бұрын
Geneva Convention: 'No degrading or torture in war' Abu Ghraib: 'I'm about to ruin this mans whole career'
@dmdm232323
@dmdm232323 5 жыл бұрын
People who do it are acting on emotion themselves - proud, excited, happy. It's telling that their reaction to feeling these emotions, and a way for them to elicit that emotion further, is to antagonize their peers.
@Scatmanseth
@Scatmanseth Жыл бұрын
Strange take, even for four years ago. What do you think a competition is other than a test of your skills through antagonizing others via a game? It's not like this is some random encounter on the street, the entire point is to win. Psychological warfare is a part of that, everyone in the comp understands this even if they don't label it like that. One could argue that limits should be put on it so it doesn't risk descending into IRL brawls but eliminating it entirely is silly and unrealistic. If you don't like the game, don't play it. Or do you elicit the same emotions by complaining about "social justice" instead?
@happythots3695
@happythots3695 7 жыл бұрын
I get slightly bothered when people tea-bag. The excuse people give when they tea bag is mind games and all that. But that's only a side effect to disrespect. No one tea bags and thinks "I'm playing mind games so hard right now" they do it to disrespect. The mind games come as a result of being disrespected. That's why other people get bothered. Just disrespect. And it's almost always done when the opponent can't do anything about it, like when they're stunned or in the "Finish Him" screen in MK. Just to solidify the disrespect. Taunting wouldn't be so bad if someone did it mid match. When I played 3rd strike and SF4, whenever I hit a dope combo or a super, I'd taunt. It's adds character to the match and was never to disrespect. Idk. I guess some people get off on the disrespect
@jorgelujan9942
@jorgelujan9942 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah the taunting used outside of a fair competitive fight just comes off rude. I've been playing ranked Mortal Kombat, and sometimes you encounter people who are whooping your ass conclusively, like you know you're not gonna win against this guy, then in the middle of a 60% combo they tea bag you. It's just trying to humiliate at that point, which seems a bit sadistic.
@securatyyy
@securatyyy 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best analogies I've heard is psychic damage. Some things do psychic damage which some people are weak to. Think of the falcon punch. You're better off doing like any other move, but if you can lands it you'll do major psychic damage. Breaks their morale. Tbagging can make some people run across the stage to you. All sorts of fun things if you can get inside their head. Some people are immune to it though. Like it kind of 'wakes them up' and they start playing better. Taunt to get bodied is a true combo. If you get mad when someone tbags them you're getting exploited. Gotta resist the psychic attacks wee woo wee woo
@thegriff8095
@thegriff8095 5 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and I'm loving the content so far. I'm surprised you didn't talk more about Smash, but overall I think your analysis on psychology and conditioning was fascinating to say the least.
@TheFleeingPhoenix
@TheFleeingPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
"When a little girl cries because she hears her dad putting ice cubes in a glass. " Wha-huh- Wha- Wow how how, bro. Low blow, bro.
@alb1reo
@alb1reo 7 жыл бұрын
I never feel like taunting. If I had to taunt I would feel less good about winning or loosing, so there is no point for me. If people taunt at me in SFV I don't care, I like to spam down or buttons sometimes if I'm safe just to input something and have my fingers active, I completely forget that this exists in the game sometimes. Where I don't like it is other games, unlike fighting games other games often have cheap tricks with no solution, are not as competetive. When I get killed by something stupid and someone t-bags me in a shooter or some other game where I can see him doing it after dying, that just upsets me, but these games are not competetive, so it doesn't matter that much. What I don't like in fighting games is if people use cheap tactics and abuse top tiers, but fail to respond to the simplest tactics of mine if they choose different characters or get caught, showing that they are able to pick top tier but not to look at the screen like any player would. It's like they don't even play the same game.
@7Metal7Monkey7
@7Metal7Monkey7 5 жыл бұрын
Albireo No idea what you're on about
@dewroot5176
@dewroot5176 3 ай бұрын
In team-based action games like Splatoon, taunting wastes your time.
@monkeyslaye
@monkeyslaye 7 жыл бұрын
Joke character.. I immediately think of Dampierre from Soul Calibur V. I won so many matches out of getting them genuinely frustrated at how silly that character was.
@dekisatria1233
@dekisatria1233 6 жыл бұрын
What i really love of you guys works is.. you did the research and use research as the ref. But, try to write down the ref so we could read the original paper
@azzans
@azzans 6 жыл бұрын
Taunting is hype. I love it because it gives character to matches. Makes them feel human. Like in Tekken when an opponent just start dashing forward nonstop in someone's face to tell them they don't need to block because they know you won't do anything. It's part of the mind game and it's what makes fighting games hype to watch.
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