Analysis: How to Find Out Who's the Best

[@CoreAGaming]

True story, Pablo jumped on my stick during a ranked match in USF4 and lvl 3 red focused my opponent killing him. Couldn't get mad.

[@PrimusSheck]

Then you would think Pablo could beat Guy.

[@grimmkiller2161]

Core-A Gaming dude I love your videos they're are so well made.

[@WindHashira]

Haha Nicesuu

[@Zhalfrin]

Pablo and Maximilian dood's dog Benny need to battle now, animals with leet fighting game skills

[@silverrain530]

Core-A Gaming My cat killed a lvl 9 cpu Ganondorf by tripping over my controller's C-stick.

[@MrCactuar13]

Invitationals should be reserved for big events, something purely for spectators to see a game at its highest level. However, the majority of tournaments ought to be open. Like you said, honoring the arcade-era romance of anyone with a couple of quarters in their pockets becoming a local star is one of the greatest appeals of fighting games specifically, and that legacy deserves to remain through time.

[@ScribeAwoken]

I'd also add that there's another use for invitationals, that also are aimed more at spectacle than on actual competition: stuff with a more casual atmosphere and a heavier focus on player interactions and silly side events than on actual competition. See HyperX's stuff where they had players from multiple games, or the Smash Summit and Smash 4 Boot Camp invitationals for Melee and Smash 4 respectively.

[@canadiangooseok7281]

I completely agree, I love the arcade idea of all you need to start your fighting game career is a quarter

[@louisng114]

2:23 How is having a cat in a tournament a problem?

[@CoinBox170]

The world just isn't ready to accept cats into pro gaming.

[@esmo9728]

louisng114 discrimination against felines

[@leonardowatch6997]

Yea, I thought that comment was really discriminatory and unnecessary. Not cool dude. Lost a lot of respect for him. I have two wonderful cats, and I'd hate for them to hear that kind of bigotry.

[@toadstar1004]

Speciesism.

[@TAKEYOURCREATINE]

#NotAllCats

[@TheLeetCasualGamer]

The fundamental problem with Palblo the cat is that he always sleeps on his opponent. Otherwise he could do very well in Street Fighter tournaments.

[@Free-4554]

If we are talking melee Jigglypuff, then sleeping on the opponent is the real strategy.

[@canadiangooseok7281]

He’s like bed man, he could be god if he stops sleeping

[@miguelmora3629]

I think we all slept on pablo.

[@Spades20XX]

Pablo for EVO 2018!

[@brunop.8745]

Pablo for EVO 2019

[@kamui1847]

yo let's go Pablo

[@baton3779]

Pablo for EVO 2020

[@zojaXII]

@@baton3779 yeah about that...

[@ShivaM-dc4xe]

@@zojaXII lmao his comment didnt age well

[@ssjgoten202]

Stop what you're doing, Core A uploaded a video. I'm going to enjoy these 10 mins.

[@arcadehayabusu2295]

ssjgoten202 me too

[@internetexplorer9492]

Damn straight

[@sheercold26]

Lol same

[@dcode1000]

I got high before watching this

[@S1Roni]

Gerald is life, bro. Also, I think I played a ranked match against you the other day in SFV lol.

[@xthe_nojx5820]

Mad Respect to Punk for knowing Money and Prestige are not the same thing. Also, I surprised they didn't call it the Deadpool. I mean, it was right there.

[@sarthakverma1030]

xThe_noJx Copyright. Sucks, I know. I also realize that you may have known that and I killed a joke. I don't regret anything.

[@Nice_Boy_555]

Sarthak Verma we have the same pic

[@Free-4554]

It's kinda sad to see him get brutally harassed in the tournament he was destined to win.

[@edi4360]

9:18 this moment just puts a smile on my face. Two people from completely different worlds enjoying the same thing.

[@fernandofelix892]

Damn Evil Bill put me against Infiltration in pools at EVO this year.

[@CoinBox170]

RIP

[@anappleaday1889]

Damn son...But hey if anything, I'd much rather lose to a legend like Infiltration than some random player. I least you could say " *I played Infiltration at evo* ".

[@Switcheroo4542]

Did you win? :P

[@onslauhtphoenix3962]

Tocsin haha fuck evil bill

[@warangelcloud]

Did you learn anything? I mean it's not like you can't grow. Become the next EVO champ.

[@icaro9554]

dude you're one of the best channels out there holy shit

[@CoinBox170]

Pablo placed 3rd? That's better than most of my placings in tournaments! Teach me your ways, Pablo!

[@CoinBox170]

Also, open tournaments always. I'd never get into an invitational.

[@chriskim1521]

i think there needs to be a balance of both. opens give a chance for fresh new blood to enter the scene while invitationals reward players for strong performances in past tourneys.

[@RyuGuitarFreak]

Chris Kim Agree. I enjoyed the hell out of eleague SFV. The different format was really interesting. I say the same for Red Bull Proving Grounds.

[@elwachinmanda]

we all know Diego is the best.

[@poketto5853]

+Ranc Henash you're right, Diego Brando is the best version of Dio

[@omg241]

Diego Umejuarez is love.

[@Cunt143]

Brian Pokettofan Estrada you are unironically correct

[@matheusaragao7640]

Yeah man, in tournament, Diego sure is a Scary Monster

[@nelsonrodriguez2085]

Diego UmeJuarez is the best Río in Fighting Street history

[@aramisia]

One of the reasons why I loved my experience in open tournament (especially the "open training" gattering the evening before the official tournament at DreamHack Montreal) is meeting people from around the world who share the same passion. I cannot play anymore coz my hands are ruined by artritis but it was so great just to hang out, chill and learn. I have been able to chat with some of the greatest players (that you interview a lot on your channel), and everybody was equal on that day. By chatting with everyone I got way more involved as a fan to follow their career and their match. It kind of democratize the whole industry. My teen nephew was with me and he's too young to have really played with sticks on arcade machines and usb ones are quite expensive so he doesn't own one. But on that day he met somebody who decided to teach him the basics, he borrowed somebody's stick and a huge bunch of top player gamers started to coach him just for the fun of it. (They all saw something in him I guess!) The next event is in autumn and he's already asking me to go with him but he wants to play next time!! I also remember the frenzy my friend showed when his opponnent was his idol!! Thing were going quickly, he didnt check the bracket he just sat at his machine and than the player he loves the most just sat next to him. He was both horrified coz he knew he had no chance but psyched to meet him at the same time! My friend's greatest moment of the tournament was when he won ONE round over him. I think he still talks about it coz he cannot believe it himself!! Also, one of the thing I loooooove about open tournaments is how it creates some kind of reality check for people who are bragging non-stop on how good they are even tho they only played against their buddies or NPC. Open tournament makes some people more humble!!! 😅 ***Even tho, I will admit that if I watch a tournament online I love the invitation formula so I guess I like them both in different context.

[@robotdude2206]

6:12 > Ayn Rando My friend, you just launched my sides into orbit.

[@DickTrickleqt]

open tournaments is the thing that makes fighting games a better "esport" than others. almost every other game genre you need to be on a team and shit. fighting games you can literally be the lone wanderer, go practice in the mountains, and win evo if you got good enough

[@AirLancer]

Not to mention the competitive fighting game scene is easily the most diverse of any competitive gaming community.

[@Karionfabe1]

99% of Starcraft tournaments (bw and sc2) have open brackets/qualifiers. I think being a 1v1 game makes it easier to have open brackets, FG and sc have that in common.

[@baker7280]

That’s probably just because it’s a 1v1

[@isaacyingzhouteh]

Other genre have open tournaments as well, it's called qualifiers. Fighting games can do open tournament like this because it doesn't takes as long to finish a BO3 or BO5.

[@SkyreeXScalabar]

true real life tournament arc

[@AmyLionheartArtistry]

I absolutely adore these Analysis videos. Your hard work never goes unnoticed. Very informative, I must say.

[@millefune]

The bracket having Maikky vs Dr. Mike bracket was hilarious. Thank you, Gerald.

[@mrfreakmaster2256]

i am a simple man....i see robotech/macross i like

[@HalosydneICS]

This is a really good video, it gives a really good overview of how tournaments within the FGC work. Invitationals are both good and bad. They allow the best of the best to compete against eachother, and generally cut out the 'clutter' of random players at big tournaments. But the thing is, this also cuts out some of the hype. With an invitational, it's just a display of pure skill against pretty evenly matched people, generally without a crowd and there's a winner and they shake hands, and that's the invitational over. With a massive tournament like EVO, there's a huge crowd cheering on the competitors, which adds to the hype. Random players also add to the hype, because it creates bigger and more devastating upsets, which sucks as a competitor but it's healthy for the viewers and for the community. As a competitor myself, losing to a random unseeded wifi player feels terrible, but watching and rooting for the underdog in a tournament is so much fun, and adds to the experience as a whole. Which is something that Invitationals take away. It's just the best, not the randoms of mixed talent or the people who shake things up. So an invitational is the best display of skill, but an open tournament is the best display for the viewers. So a mix is good.

[@BebehCookieIcecream]

Love your videos! I never understood the bracket system until you, Core-A-Chan

[@JmBlast]

That picture with all the randoms and then Diago at the front really hit home 🤣🤣

[@sammayes948]

I think the last example is a great setup. It makes the community more welcoming and diverse. And honestly for a passive player like me who sucks it's just fun to feel welcomed and play this fun game with similar minded folks.

[@hotmealdotcomma]

I'm a fan of Dota2, so I really appreciate their tradition of splitting tournaments half invites/half placements from open qualifiers. This means the organizers essentially have to put on two tournaments, and the open tournament to determine who qualifies often times suffers in terms of quality. But, it allows well known teams to essentially act as "bosses" for the qualified teams.

[@oiopquatro4846]

That s my favorite video of this channel. Inspired me to organize one tounament with my friends (:

[@rachelslur8729]

Love at first sight with the song at the beginning 0:01. Don't regret looking it up.

[@kirjian]

Is that Secret of Mana soundtrack? I highly respect you.

[@AliMohamed-fu5lc]

AND I RESPECT YOU FOR NOTICING IT AS WELL

[@Nintega2K]

uh, check the description

[@kirjian]

Nintega94 I mentioned it because it's not in the description.

[@CoreAGaming]

Sorry, fixed that.

[@talbotsolenberger4434]

I didn't understand from the title that this video was going to be about how to organize the play in tournaments, but now I know exactly what video to show someone when they're learning this stuff. Thanks!

[@reignandbongao9497]

The animation of the still pictures of the top players are hilarious.

[@Magcargo96]

What I love so much about these videos is that they are actual analysis'. Very few videos go so in depth and explain thoughts so well.

[@danaisduhbom]

Goddamn. Tournament design is a fascinating topic.

[@ricard1414]

Your videos are the best in gaming genre. I keep rewatching them 3 years after, please keep them coming!!! So talented

[@iiPerfectGamer]

I finished marathoning your analysis videos yesterday, woke up today to find a new analysis video, finished the video, pressed replay button.

[@GrandLufaine]

Gerald, I love your videos!!! They are highly informative, clear and concise, and very well edited! You're probably the only educational YT channel that I drop everything to see to a notification for!

[@justinho6692]

This how I view the tournament types Open= Scouting new players, Finding those who will become the best Invitational= Professionals playing the game

[@AirLancer]

It's basically the same thing in a lot of sports. Amateur level competition where people can hone their skills, but also where the really talented can make themselves known. Once they make a name for themselves, they get called up to the big leagues.

[@MangaMarjan]

Only difference, in the FGC Amateurs play against Professionals. It's so pointless. EVO is the world cup of fighting games, but only in Top 8

[@renatoramos8834]

@@MangaMarjan "amateurs" play against the best in open sports too.

[@KidKarolus]

In certain competitive sports (I am thinking informal fencing tournies here) there is a "Super Bracket" then the normal brackets. The super bracket consists of the elite players, who get to round robin, whereas the normal bracket is played before hand, and allows anyone to join and get a shot at the round robin tourney. In fencing, this is used so amateur fencers can fence against peers and have a good time, and "A ranked" or very skilled fencers can participate in the finals. I think a concept like this could work very well, where after a certain number of victories, a walk-in joins a bracket to enter the round robin stage (for arguments sake say 10 victories in a row). Now you have a group of brackets that have been seeded with more skilled player, who then compete for the chance to join the round robin. You could invite pros (say 10) and then have 25 slots open for grabs out of the brackets, the number of victories in the open tourney needed to join the closed brackets and finally the round robin can be decided so the desired number of competitors in the final rounds are met.

[@armondo4446]

Core-A Gaming: The only channel on KZbin that doesn't stretch his videos to 10 min for ad revenue

[@SlayaBEE]

Right off the bat w/ Kim Wu's theme. *I'M IN*

[@bbqseitan7106]

the music at the end is epic as fuuu. I really like both, as mostly a spectator I appreciate the two formats for different reasons

[@DancingSwagMachine]

Open tournaments expands the community

[@AbzAden]

Capcom needs to see this asap

[@crunkplaya6929]

My mind involuntarily shut off because I don't ever see myself having to organize a tournament on such a scale but I did watch it all the way through because I was so intrigued. Thanks for another great vid!

[@Freefork]

Death pool? Death pool? Deadpool and Deathstroke confirmed to be in Grand Finals in 2018 of EVO.

[@screaming10yearoldsinc.66]

They should do both open and invitationals but the invitationals should only be winners of previous open tournaments. That way people in the open tourneys have another thing to look forward to aside from the experience or prize money. it would make open tourneys like a stepping stone to the more elite invitationals

[@jjrobledo]

Screaming10YearOlds Inc. Invitationals need viewers so they should invite diverse players

[@Innaething9]

Screaming10YearOlds Inc. Well that's kinda what it is on E league, as it was said on the video the benefits of the league is to have staked up matches all the time. And you do that by having player that are good and already have a following fanbase. And how do you get recognized for being good and start having a fanbase in fighting games? Winning open tournies. The thing is that e league brings a whole other kind of production value to the table that very few if not zero endemic fighting gaming brand is able to offer. It's good for the future

[@Kitsune81]

I like this. Much better than the popularity contest that invitationals are usually, where questionable people get invited who never really placed well in tournaments in recent years lol

[@HildrTV]

Dude we already have that. Its called capcom cup

[@aspreedacore]

he means more like it

[@ichigoshinobia.k.alitshino9781]

That secret of Mana music switch brought back a nice nostalgia 💪🏿

[@jamz8729]

another facet of competitive gaming i never considered and am now dwelling on all of the possibilities of a tournament bracket setup and applying them to sports n shit while visiting contemplation nation. sikkk vidd as usual

[@Lewdology]

Goddammit that shawshank clip gave me the biggest grin of the century. Thanks Gerald, you are awesome.

[@swordflay7384]

I’m on my cycle of watching all your videos in 2 days every 4 months or so

[@Guruc13]

This is such a well made video. As someone with only a cursory knowledge of Melee from my friends, I now feel like I understand and appreciate tournaments so much better. Thank you so much Core-A, I hope to see more vids from you in the future!

[@smashjigglypuffisnotfemale1130]

Another thing that would make a great point is the unpredictable factor of open brackets. The possibility that a hidden boss could emerge from pools or a top player drowning in them. Viewers love underdog stories and become interested in how historic it could actually be to the game's history. A prime example is Mang0 at Pound 3 where he went out for his first national tournament. He got knocked into first round losers of a 220+ man tournament and came back to win the whole thing while beating almost every single favorite to do it.

[@Winged_Snek]

Open tournaments are genuinely awesome. Maybe notmas prestigious, or "legitimate", but seeing a random nobodies show up and dominate is not only entertaining, but it gives up hope that we can succeed if we put in the effort to be as good as we can be.

[@tolontolon5538]

i see perfectly normal to have a cat in a tournament... as a mater of fact we need more cats on tournaments XD

[@Switcheroo4542]

Cat-only tournament

[@dunnaredside8460]

Duuuuude! This is top 3 best KZbin channels I've EVER stumbled upon. I'm definetely getting all those songs. The guitars on the 1st one sound brutal!

[@DiegoDora]

I think that a mix of those makes sense. You could have some very branded exclusive events by invitation and then have this massive and crazy open tournaments - variety is key. While invitation only events would be more easy to market and espectacular, the open tournament allows new members of the fighting community to jump into fame by kicking some ass publicly and becoming the new "invitation only event type of player" Great video btw!

[@enochexe1620]

My boy Gerald coming through with the right subject at the right time. Thank you for exploring and clarifying this topic in the midst of the whole Shine 2017 debacle. Keep up the good work man!

[@superarisu]

Some other positive factors in open tournaments: formal access to players you might not otherwise get to play (not even if you are otherwise a famous player); people clawing their way up through losers to win it all/reface the people who sent them there (Garireo).

[@epitomeofcake132]

Open tournaments are why fighting games will always be more meaningful to me than other eSports. It just feels so much more, real I guess. So uncontrolled and chaotic, just the fact that anything can happen and these top players prove themselves over and over again is so awesome to me. I'd care about top players way less if the only test of their skill was against each other.

[@theibox360]

Great video man. Being someone who manages small-scale sports tournaments (Table Tennis, Carrom..etc), this video helps me understand some things better as well explain the idea behind single elimination, seeding, brackets ..etc in the most fun way possible.. Keep up the great work!!

[@AgaresOaks]

In my eyes, there's three tiers of tournaments (in terms of prestige) in esports, all other factors being equal. The lowest level being invitational tournaments, the next being open tournaments, and the final type not being discussed in the video: qualified tournaments (ie. Capcom Cup). The FGC is actually a very interesting outlier in that the vast majority of tournaments are open tournaments that don't feed into anything.

[@romajimamulo]

Why not do Swiss or something like ELO rankings for the purpose of the tournament? Then, after it's down to a reasonable number, then you could do a single or double elimination final

[@TomPiddock]

This video has such well placed graphics for the explanations AND for the puns that I found myself going "Aww-shit that's a good point." to losing my shit and laughing out loud at Ken-Li in Randominators brain... Fantastic video.

[@guzel9823]

I feel like you could've touched slightly on a point based system. For example many trading cards implement this. During day 1 you play many matches (depending on how many players joined and the length per round), a win grants 3 points, a tie 1 to each, and a loss 0. Each round you play against someone who got the same score as you. To qualify for day 2 (most of the time top 32) you need to get a certain number of points. Afterwards you get seeded depending on how much you exceeded the limit. From then on it's double elimination. For example the barrier might be 24 Points, you could either qualify by winning 8 times and losing twice, or by winning 7 times and tying 3 times, both granting exactly 24 points. But let's say you win 8 times, tie once and lose once. You get 25 Points, meaning a higher seed compared to 24 points. I agree that double elimination might be the most practical for fighting games but flying out somewhere, paying and entry fee just to play 3-4 games always feels bad. When looking at a point based system you can often play at least 4-5 relevant games (depending on amount of points) and those will be rather close, since after 4 rounds of assessing your skill you are more likely to fight an equal opponent. This format is really practical for tcg's because you just need a desk and maybe dice per set-up, everything else is expected to be brought by the players or not necessary

[@Laertes00]

Showing Momochi when saying "it's important to have trustworthy organizers" was a great touch, lol.

[@Slappa-]

The way the FGC and eSports is slowly evolving in the US, I like watching both Invitationals and open tournaments. E-League was actually a lot of fun to watch each Friday leading up to the finals so I was very surprised at how much I enjoyed that type of competition for SFV and being able to see a variety of pro players play each other without having to hope they match up in the brackets at an open tournament.

[@creedolala6918]

Old video but thought I'd chime in... I come from the pool (pocket billiards) world, we deal with a lot of the same issues mentioned in this video. Double elim events, where the races are too short, players fly around the world only to get knocked out early and actually lose money for trying. The money in pool is surprisingly small for it these days - nobody's a millionaire playing american-style pool, like 8-ball. But a big event might pay 10k, 20k, up to 50k in a few cases... large enough to make people fight for it anyway. So the issue how how to make events more fair is always at the front of everyone's mind, especially since there's some luck to overcome in the games. We've only recently, for the first time, been able to adopt a proper rating system that mathmatically rates the skill of everyone, and this has had a really beneficial impact on how we organize events. It's similar to the FIDE rating in chess, an Elo-based system. You can sort of scale the numbers arbitrarily, but everyone falls on a scale from 0-to-850. The average casual player might be around 400, 500's will impress their buddies but not serious players, 600's are pretty solid and might be the top in local leagues... 700's are more or less at the threshhold between amateur and pro, 720 is solidly pro. The large bulk of pros fall between 720 and 800, and only a handful (like a dozen out of millions of players) break 800, with the top at 820. There's no official 850 cap, it's just my guess on a theoretical maximum, if some once-in-ten-generations pool god is born. Willie Mosconi, in his day, might have been 840 or 850, having won 15 world championships in a brutal format that had a round robin, then double elim, then single elim. Having the ratings allows us to figure out who should go to invitationals, how to seed them, how to make accurate estimations of their performance and even get a rough predicted score. It provides a system that is somewhat immune to "Mr. Evil" rigging the tournament. It allows legal betting on the outcome with realistic calculated odds (not in the USA, but possibly soon based on recent law changes). Having the sponsorship money of the legal gambling industry is huge, though maybe not a priority for esports where they try to maintain a kid-friendly image. Anyway, the whole ELO-but-for-pool thing was just built from existing win/loss records, millions of them, and a couple of talented programmers who generated the rankings and made them available for anyone to look up online. I think a similar system might be huge for Street Fighter and other games, if it doesn't exist already.

[@gracechan3039]

Each of your videos is like a smal documentary film on fighting games. I love it.

[@odeclas1460]

the production value of your videos keeps getting better. amazing work, keep it up!

[@Neoxon619]

I'll be rooting for Pablo at EVO 2018. As for me, I personally prefer open tournaments due to the sheer amount of competition involved. Plus I like seeing the rise of new top players happen.

[@scandergarcia6989]

I like a variety of invitationals and open tournaments. Opens give room for new talent while the invitationals showcase the best of the best it's an amazing thing.

[@Tharag999]

Jebaily popping out of chun li's mouth is the best ahahaha! Great video as always!

[@startingoverpodcast]

Your stuff is great. I use your videos in coaching sessions for my table top team I run. Keep up the excellent work!

[@Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni]

Why not both? We can have both an open tournament, and later, based on feedback, we can choose the best of the best for an invitational. Everybody wins!

[@beyondtherhetoric]

This wasn't what I expected based on the title, but I couldn't have enjoyed it any more than I did. Thanks so much for what you do!

[@w0lkensucher]

You captured the essence of tournaments pretty much in your video, keep up the great work!

[@sdro106]

One of my favorite channels on KZbin. Great editing and commentary I hope you keep up the videos

[@youllgetnoinfoaboutmytwitt5689]

Very nice video dude. Love the visual aids and editing!

[@mrwri]

1. Set goals and methods of achieving them 2. Determine who achieved them

[@AureliusWhite]

Core-A your videos are so well made it baffles me sometimes. Thanks for the content man!

[@NMGardening]

Please don't stop making videos. You've got a hell of a talent good sir.

[@ShuusakuSama]

I am always so pleased to see a channel with high quality and meaningful content. Please keep up the good work.

[@WadeLicup]

I lost it at Pickle Rick and Evil Morty winning the theoretical examples. Squanchy. Great video as always man.

[@MrDanielneu]

evil Morty is Top Tier

[@smcdonough1427]

Good video! I think both open tournament and invitational formats are good and exciting to watch. We should just keep using both. Also, Austin was so cute at the end lol he's such a nice guy

[@tribacioustee2846]

Open tournaments have become the soul of a competitive game's scene for me. I wouldn't be half as invested in the long run without them.

[@thedean0]

I like the idea of invitationals once we figure out who the top players are in a game, but until then, open tournaments are so much better to get newer names out there. The prime example of this is aMSa the Red Yoshi from Japan at Kings of Cali 4. A random dude from out of nowhere comes to a stacked major and beats Mew2King, one of the gods of the game, thus instantly cementing his name in the history of SSBM. Opens are so much more fun for this reason, but once a rough list of who the top 50 or even 100 players are, invitationals can be better suited to figure out who the best of the best is.

[@Rd0Lg]

It's quite jarring how different players perform drastically changes depending on the format. Nice video. :3

[@NihilisaFrank]

I mean, besides what you said regarding "open tournaments being awesome" as a pretty damn good excuse for why they exist, having an invitational in lieu-of a tournament still kind of falls in a different trap when faced with the question of "okay well how do we decide who we invite?" I thought Slippi league answered that question pretty well when they used the weekly format to decide seeding for the invitational, and you had to place in *top 4* in an open-tournament the day before the weekly league match just to qualify and play at the Div 2 Relegation level. I think basically, while we are still sequestered for the foreseeable future, implementing ideas like that might be a nice way to still keep the stakes high for all the matches and really engage with the community (both the active players and spectators) since things like player rankings is definitely a topic we all have interest in even if it's not the easiest to use the current online-results as meaningful data to support the rankings

[@gurkiratsingh8747]

I think we should have everything, so people can choose whatever, but as you said I think the idea of open tournament is Assam(a state in India). So my vote goes to open.

[@3dthegamefreak]

I swear, im glad i subbed a few months back. I look forward to these videos all the time 👌

[@arminengaming]

Damn, you really hit hard with all the mago brackets where Mago and Tanukana were eliminated by Rick and Morty characters.

[@abdullahkuzhan7247]

4:05 That's why Momochi won against Gamerbee after only winning one match!! Now i understand. I'm completely new to competitive Street Fighter and i love it already.

[@chickrepelant]

another great video CAG i like both! i love being able to participate, and i love that the PROS can choose to enter the big ones, or wait for the invitationals. 2017 is a beautiful time. now only if sf5 can fix their input lag / throw "mix-ups", i'll be happy.

[@Petrico94]

Open tournaments with entry fee and prize money will still have a place but they could certainly have some best of the best invite only tournaments featuring select big names to compete. It's a good idea to seed people based on how well they're already known, only problem being that's never going to be precise and the late sign ins have a really bad ladder to themselves. However if everyone is well known and no random drop ins you can much more easily design a system with those who have the highest chance of winning and always allow a losers climb so they're not completely locked out after one bad match. To really get an accurate measure of who's the best you'd need to perform many games to get a good estimate and even then it'll probably look like "Player A wins 60% of the time against player B, but every so often player be gets a good counter pick and turn that around to B wins 55% of the time", there's likely no superior pro player that wins 100% of the time unless it's something like your cat vs one of them

[@elim9054]

Was kind of expecting some explanation about stuff like ELO or local/global ranking panels, but still a good video as always. It looks like most people agree with this, but invitationals definitely should never be more common than open tournaments. They have their place and they're a cool idea from a spectator standpoint, but one of the best things about fighting games is that literally anyone with transportation, a controller, and the entry fee can enter a tournament.

[@Mr0mart]

Very interesting input , and the part about seeding and why it is so important its educative for TOs.

[@SpadeSebbo]

Just for the moments where the commentators say "We have no idea who this guy is" and she/he wipes the floor through the pros makes open tournaments so great. It's refreshing for everyone. That "psychological warfare" for pros is shaking things up, too. It shows who''s really "pro", when they fight the unknown participant in the top 8, that they never fought against, but if the pro wins, he has earned - once more - the title "professional". Thats my thoughts on this. Also, thanks for making this video, i keep it in mind when the next evo comes up, so i can show it to people :)

[@deanmartin163]

Dude all of your content is so damn top notch. I love how much work you put into every single video you upload

[@coffeebot7016]

Your videos are fucking A+ quality my dude. Keep it up, we all really appreciate them.

[@Jacckwaite]

Bro, you make the best content on youtube. I've never played or been interested in fighting games in my life and love this series. Thankyou.

[@AbdullahDakhaikh]

I cannot be more enthusiastic to see the analysis video on Tekken!!.. The level of finesse you provide is great and I hope there will be a good number of analysis videos on the game!... However, after all this waiting.. you better release a 3 hours video this time.. hahaha

[@Seadragon77]

I competed in my first open tournament (let alone any) in the Hometown Heroes event. One thing I did notice is that the region I was in (Seattle), the numbers were down each week. This allowed me to improve on my placement each week even though I would usually go 0-2 that week. I also got two wins out of that (one because a guy cheated and the other because he no showed). Even with my lack of skill, I ended up tied for 15th place at the end of the season because I stuck with it.