Analysis: How the Hadouken Reinvented 2D Fighting

[@LuckyHamburger]

How to beat daigo: "Being good is a real strength of yours."

[@Exorcist_ali248]

Holy shit you've won EVO

[@NinthSettler]

You'd still eat 20 umeshoryus and lose, that's how Daigo rolls

[@Mascabar]

@@NinthSettler "Being not terrible is a real strength of yours.", I have optimised the Daigo meta

[@321Tdog]

"Hey Daigo you're really good at plugging in your controller"

[@velocityraptor2890]

no no no, if you REALLY want to win, you say "your greatest strength is your unpredicatbility" like, how do you deal with that?

[@bigdrippy4104]

I love how Harada talks about the fireball when most of the games hes made have had no projectiles til recently

[@UmbrellaSound]

One can argue that Devil Jin laser is sort of projectile. And it was there since Tekken 3

[@liamsemicolon]

@@UmbrellaSound actually, the laser has been there there since tekken 2, where it was used by devil and angel

[@UmbrellaSound]

@@liamsemicolon thanks for correction mate.

[@liamsemicolon]

@@UmbrellaSound noprobs dude

[@Jerry_SSBB]

Jinpachi in Tekken Tag 2 can shoot fireballs.

[@afrikasmith1049]

I like Cody's projectile. Alot of his opponents are using chi/ki to use as a projectile. But Cody throws rocks..... It sounds stupid compared to a fireball, but its so practical that it makes him a true Street Fighter.

[@hiro7964]

In street fighter 5 cody throws tornado :p

[@madil2259]

Agreed.

[@mariusspadasinul]

True that

[@Ouryuu-Zenokun]

Or a knife/Tornado

[@jeoffrygeff886]

literal devil vs some guy who throws rocks

[@Krystalmyth]

"I can see why some people would call it spam." *Highlights High Sodium Levels* I love you.

[@RanOutOfSpac]

I can’t believe I didn’t catch that omg.

[@yaeven4943]

@@Azu_Crystal Yes, we got the joke. Thanks.

[@ClefPiano]

I added Spanish subtitles since December, please C-AG, enable them! I want to help some guys in my community who don't speak english.

[@ishgardiandad8250]

My favorite projectile character is definitely Adon. Now, you may be saying "Adon doesnt have any". Youre wrong his voice is so annoying it's basically a fireball hitting me irl.

[@Freefork]

Muting the game is my counterpick.

[@Flyingboy25]

AAAHHH JAGUAR KICK!

[@misterrandom3544]

@@Freefork that way you dont have to block

[@Freefork]

@@misterrandom3544 I still have to block the entire match... my ears are still exposed when the audience starts shouting for Adon.

[@misterrandom3544]

@@Freefork I WILL SEE THEM WURSHIP ME AS A GAWD!! Lol

[@iamfiefo]

Blanka has the best "fireball" game. Because he _is_ the fireball!

[@Toomnyusernae]

Shout of Earth baby. Not a true fireball but it has the reach and gives the best fuzzy feeling for chipping to death.

[@TheManTheMythD]

Confirmed: Captain Falcon is a Blanka clone.

[@jaggedsigns3O11]

Lmao one must not only think like a fireball but become the fireball xD

[@falleneldor]

Chau Nguyen and then you realize: there is no fire ball...

[@sabbathjackal]

iamfiefo i think your forgetting about Kano

[@novikovPrinciple]

Peacock (Skullgirls) takes projectiles to their -annoying- logical extreme. "Keep-away game" is her bread and butter, and you want nothing more than to get in close and smash her cartoon-y face in.

[@syrelian]

And when she gets in close you get a Bang. and a Bang! and a football and a bomb and good god she doesn't get less obnoxious up close, there's a reason she's designed as Obnoxiousness Incarnate, and it works great

[@kiracomfortinghishomie8351]

But brass knuckle super armor.

[@toki_tsu_kaze5511]

Peacock is western Mech-Hisui

[@johntopping2728]

@@kiracomfortinghishomie8351 Right back atcha

[@mrmaster3393]

The game even somewhat tells you to play campy

[@ultrameijin9503]

I'm not into Fighting Games and probably never will but your videos are always interesting. Thank you.

[@Toomnyusernae]

It's never too late to learn but if I had to offer any advice or factors that will sway you it would be the following: 1) Not having muscle memory and execution will frustrate the hell out of you but the satisfaction of succeeding feels especially good. 2) Starting with a new game is both a curse and a boon since you can learn at the same time as someone else but you'll get trounced in no time. 3) You learn to lose a lot and appreciate games in a different way.

[@rock100010000returns]

Also when you do win after many many losses it is thrilling. I've played around 40 games of SFV at this point and have won 3. Am I good? No. Am I better than I was 5 days ago? Oh yes. That's what is keeping me playing.

[@violet5188]

aotero u Y tho

[@chantingzhang]

Playing fighting games require a special kind of temperament an ability to munch defeat like a casual snack That is what I learned, about why I cannot play fighting games at all after 10+ years of trying to get into it I am just taking every moment and every defeat too seriously, and that made fighting games impossible for me. I love watching people play but I don't think I will ever get the mental cool to get into the thing.

[@lukelblitz3627]

same i have never been a fighting guy,i only really like skullgirls,but all the intricacies and the culture behind this genre are mind boggling

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

4:30 Sun Tzu's Art of War. Don't let your opponent know their strengths and weaknesses.

[@derushcore9514]

*Technoblade would like to know your location*

[@frostmirror1677]

@@derushcore9514 you fool, don’t reveal all of your secrets in a KZbin video, you fool, you moron

[@andymcclurg9916]

-Sun Tzu

[@johndaniel8283]

Favourite projectile character is hol horse from Jjba heritage to the future

[@johndaniel8283]

Its a fucking godlike move for zoning

[@pkcreshman9790]

No Just No I take a liking to Middler in that game. Cars are fun.

[@apex9580]

I was not expecting somebody to bring up jojo in the comments

[@THE_BASED_GOD]

@@apex9580 Mariah best girl.

[@ButterscotchPenguin]

I wish they had a port of that came for newer gen consoles

[@Saiyanryu]

2:18 Thought that said "SHIT SUPER COMBO."

[@logandunlap9156]

i mean compared to the long ass combos we know today, 5 hits is kinda shit

[@Micha-Hil]

well, technically it is

[@Mangosta12jr]

My favourite projectile fighter? Hugo

[@ew275x]

My favorite Projectile? R. Mika's ass.

[@Mangosta12jr]

ew275x Yeh, you know it bro

[@Walnut356]

Nice Shot Hugo

[@Shoop400]

Hugo is number one.

[@omukssbm]

Nice Shot Hugo

[@endr0891]

It’s a tradition for me to watch all you videos, forget you exist for a few months, find you again, and procédé to rewatch all your videos once again. It’s an infinite cycle.

[@zackdoom]

Favourite projectile character Sean ft.Basketball

[@Toomnyusernae]

Adds pressure, builds up your stun output when it connects, super stereotypitcal, what's not to love about it ^_^

[@Dxsmp]

zackdoom yea throw the basketball at there ass

[@Mfdude716]

Zacharis best way to ko someone with Sean.

[@unclesam530]

+Zacharis & Dudley's rose throw for the ladies ԅ(≖‿≖ԅ)

[@cyanariesdw04]

Basketball kills are hilarious

[@Luky75]

Wait what "Spam" meat and "spam" as I use it today are actually related? Whoa

[@Luky75]

And great video as always, thanks! I hate projectiles with a passion, so it's valuable info.

[@TealPersonal]

Learn something new everyday!

[@zackdoom]

I learned that in school from my history teacher when learning about WW2 it's weird how spam evolved to "spam" lmao

[@marcosdheleno]

and thats goes to show the genious of monthy phyton.

[@pnyhmsmx]

Marcos Danilo I wasn't aware that they were responsible for that till now.

[@theladypalecorn7750]

Fox and Falco in Melee are perfect examples of fireballs in Smash. They can cause you to become frustrated and force you to approach. Falco's lasers stun you, making you act more defensive. Fox's lasers don't cause stun, but rack up damage fast, forcing you to approach and be offensive. I love it how these two moves that are almost the exact same cause you to do completely different things

[@FinalDragoon]

My favorite projectile fighters are Gouken and Gardevoir. Gouken is the opposite of Akuma in that he has anti-air fireballs so you can make a game out of how your opponent reacts to normal fireballs. Gardevoir just takes projectiles to a whole new level in Pokken, easily one of the top 5 zoning characters in all of fighting games.

[@MBValentine]

Energy Ball and its followup would legit be a top 5 move in any game that wasn't Pokken God I miss that game

[@marcuswilcock4300]

Hi Core, I must say I am absolutely loving the quality of your videos. I've appreciated fighting games for a long time (never been proficient at any though!) and the vast amount of factors that you bring to light (such as mind game, theories, game design etc) just show how intricate these games actually are. I hope to see more from you in the future, keep doing what you do! :D

[@CoreAGaming]

To answer my own question, Crow from Rising Thunder. RIP.

[@WilkenKear]

Vlad and his TK rocket. :'(

[@bb010g]

Core-A Gaming Did you get to ask S-Kill about his work at Riot when you interviewed him? :D

[@MastaStefMedia]

Core-A Gaming crow was literally the worst thing. but I played talos so I may be biased. lol

[@CoreAGaming]

Brayden Banks That was a clip from the I Am Street Fighter documentary. I highly recommend it.

[@ZyxWhitewind]

3s Remy.

[@ianlove3217]

As bad competitively as he is, I really liked Remy from 3rd Strike. Mixing Sagat's highs and lows with Guile's charge commands and overall playstyle is a fun idea, and I especially like that the EX versions of his projectiles throw two at once that travel in wacky trajectories. If they ever bring him back for another SF game I would love to see the developers tinker around more with him.

[@kingcrowbro2486]

Favorite Projectile Character? Nu-13 from the Blazblue series. Fireballs are her game...or rather, Swords are her game. Lots and lots and lots of swords. It's some pretty great stuff.

[@Ragnanivan]

Ayyy J Gamer I didn't know you watched this stuff too

[@WFoong98]

Also projectiles from opponents back are really good.

[@kingcrowbro2486]

*Ayyy* There's that boi, oh shit what up?! Course I watch this stuff bro (I just wish he'd bring up Blazblue a bit more but it's cool)

[@ignap]

JGamer king Agreed, she is so cool looking

[@Roymoney1998]

Was about to say the same but another cool aspect is how a lot of her special attacks weave her in and out of attack range.

[@G_Gr00v3]

I love Makoto from BlazBlue. My favorite thing about her projectiles is that you can form them, but then not throw them. So someone may block and dash, thinking you’ll throw it, but then they dash into one that’s still where you were just standing.

[@deadfr0g]

5:58 Oh mannn, that's from a thread I made on SRK years ago! This is so exciting to me! Almost showing up in a Gerald video. Hahaha.

[@ToshiSan121]

5:50 when Ken floats in the background. This editing is genius.

[@yukmoutb5885]

that HDKN on a spam can is genius.

[@V1tunpr0]

"Hey you know that Daigo guy?" "yea, he's super good at not losing." i just ruined his competitive career :)

[@W.H.V.]

Damn, you really just did that.

[@Phychologik]

7:18 This is actual next level comedy

[@whirl3690]

Your analysis videos such as this one have gotten me into fighting games. I don't think I would have been able to appreciate these games as much as I do now if it weren't for them.

[@sourcreamtheunicorn7450]

I've always found Mario's bouncing fireballs in Smash to be my favorite tool in distraction and chip damage.

[@MorphRed]

I can't count the number of matches where a Mario started with a fireball

[@Gender_Ascender]

@@MorphRed Mario using fireballs when recovering from being sent high, excellent way to force an opponent to make a snap decision about where to go, and Mario almost always can respond to make it back safely, but in Ultimate that's not a new or special thing, almost all characters have some way of making it back relatively safely. ... Almost all. *Cries in Mac*

[@jojoshfgc]

i love watching core a gaming cuz sometimes he just goes way off topic and you just learn something you didn’t think you would.

[@t-mofisher8922]

My favourite fireball character will always be Sagat. He's just so fundamentally sound. Low and high mixup, good anti-air game to beat late jump ins, good normals,decent damage, the whole shebang. It feels satisfying to get a win because you don't feel like you just cheesed your opponent, even if they're salty you threw so many fireballs :P

[@silva29]

Man I just discovered your content, I'm not even into fighting games but I can't stop watching your videos. It's a wealth of knowledge as well as witty and funny. Hope you're doing okay.

[@AndrewIHanna]

Them: cheap projectile spamming. I, an intellectual: tactical zoning

[@sabin97]

back in the days of tekken tag and tekken 4 i mastered tactical zoning with lei wulong. it was so awesome when they just got scared of you.....i even hit someone with an unblockable.....

[@bendover2684]

*me

[@kaneicosasrandom8630]

7:36 "After 20 years, how we just found out a new trick?" That was just magic.

[@tartsono]

Obviously the best projectile character is Melee Falco.

[@t1glistenerelf]

I feel like ChrisG would pee his pants if he ever discovered that Falco's projectiles land-cancel and move across the stage in no time.

[@jaggedsigns3O11]

its disgusting what they did to Falco in sm4sh. that laser has more lag than smash attacks.

[@Goreblender]

yeah but you can't kill someone with lasers like you can with hadoukens

[@finnkliebhan2796]

Stray Dog if they are off stage and trying to recover they can

[@Mr.Foxhat]

Stray Dog Hadoukens can kill, however like said in the video, they are mostly used for spacing and control over the opponent. In that case they are far more dangerous than Hadoukens.

[@dynami3783]

RIP Cammy in the bottom screen 2017 2:49 ~ 2:51

[@kingkrispy5289]

no more alpha Cammy, gone, reduced to ashes

[@horplesmoff]

i really can't get enough of your videos! keep it up, man!!!

[@URAYULI]

gcfffggxds

[@basilvitamin8878]

No joke, this video is what really got me into fighting games. Just understanding the concept of fireballs and anti-airs is what let me learn Sagat in SFV, and I've been a zoner fanatic ever since. Space control is my favourite aspect of fighting games by far, literally nothing else is like the feeling of knowing exactly when someone's going to jump and punishing it. It's the single most important skill to learn at low levels and it literally never stops being relevant... And on a surface level, it's so simple and satisfying. I think more people would get to experience how cool this genre is if they knew just how simple the learning process could be, and how little frame data and combos actually matter when starting out. thank you, Core-A :)

[@anthemofadam]

You are doing gods work! If I buy sfv, it's because of this video.

[@spideycat9746]

How the hadouken reinvented 2D fighting: Zoners wanted something to do

[@BlackMasamuneX]

Can you do a video about the trend of trying to make fighting games more "accessible?"

[@CoreAGaming]

I have been thinking about this a lot recently, especially with Fantasy Strike coming out.

[@BlackMasamuneX]

Core-A Gaming I hope you do one, no rush. There's so much to say on the subject.

[@stilmaho]

Just an opinion but I think it is a good think if they make the game more accessible at first then slowly make it more complex. That way developers can both increase the number of customers and the size of the community in long run.

[@CrowSpaceboy]

It's tough to talk about fantasy strike without talking about sirlin's work as a whole. It's tough to say FS in particular is part of a trend when Sirlin has been doing this forevvvvver. I think Rising Thunder, even if it's dead, would fit that subject better. I hope that doesn't sound like a endorsement of FS, for the record. I run very hot and cold with his various projects.

[@mayusocarina]

I agree, do this.

[@Karanagi]

Your videos continue to impress. Not just as an analysis of fighting games, but of the underlying dynamics that all games adhere to.

[@therealkzero]

Favorite projectile character? Probably Spinal from Killer Instinct. They're skulls that drain/stop meters. SKULLS!

[@rafael471992]

Just wanna say that as a very casual fighting game fan, you produce the most interesting content BY FAR! I m glad I found you! Keep up the great work!

[@sabbathjackal]

ok full screen haduken canceldash forward shoryuken. there now you can hit those jumpers. bonus if you launch him bacwards into your fireball

[@uyaipek7054]

Your videos are combination of great research and execution. They are high level production quality.

[@GusNStuff]

I think fox has an interesting projectile. Who knew that a laser that does no stun and 3% on hit would be so effective?

[@victorlacerda8015]

I don't even play fighting games but have watched all of your videos because they're so thorough and well put together.

[@jfncho]

7:17 I see what you did there lol #salty

[@yoheikun6880]

JFn Cho ii

[@aufishsd1445]

Where's the chlorine?

[@jimmykeffer7401]

Peacock from Skullgirls - her insane arsenal of projectiles and loony toons aesthetic make for a hilariously frustrating match.

[@royerthedestroyer7]

7:30 I discovered something similar with Guy back in Super Street Fighter 4 where I used a crouching medium kick and his animation makes him dodge fireballs too.

[@RetroPillowcase]

Ok thanks. I couldn’t see what they were amazed by

[@dracomundo1498]

Arthur from UMVC3 helped me learn and practice executing Hado's consistently, so I have some memories with him

[@boredlazymax]

Meanwhile in Street Fighter 3 Third Strike: **parry the projectile**

[@ricardoludwig4787]

My favorite projectile character is probably venom in xrd or nu 13 in most games she shows up in. Venom has the most interesting case of setup and manipulation of his projectiles I've ever seen, allowing a complex mix of aggression and zoning while nu completely shifts how your average character is since she is a zoner that actually combos and mixes from Fullscreen, but still has reasons to advance occasionally

[@randaru1527]

"The recovery is usually as long as the jump-in" That is unless you play Guile

[@MansMan42069]

Compensation for having to charge

[@idk72.]

@@MansMan42069 personally I think charge > command,I just feel like charging is way easier

[@MansMan42069]

@@idk72. Not that it's easier, but because you need to keep it in mind.

[@idk72.]

@@MansMan42069 oh yeah, that definitely is a disadvantage when playing chargers, but once you get used to it, you even start to do it for instinct, sometimes I start the rounds charging my specials with gill...

[@glench4693]

I dont play much fighting games and I always love watching videos like this

[@RinInABin]

2:11 I need this clip of Daigo in a lab coat for research reasons where can i get it

[@sandrin0]

/watch?v=q9GdfG1kd_0 daigo teaching kuroda the secrets of the fireball

[@RinInABin]

Samir Velshi Thank you. You are a scholar and a gentleman.

[@LieseFury]

why is it so fitting that the person talking like le ebin redditor is racist

[@Gamer-pc3sf]

"Analysis: How the Hadouken Reinvented 2D Fighting" Sagat: *am i a joke to you?*

[@rashidisw]

well... in earlier release of Street Fighter arcade, you can't play as Sagat.

[@jorge4572]

*laughs in Sonic boom*

[@God-ch8lq]

*laughs in IaMP*

[@themilkomedanodyssey6053]

*laughs in soku*

[@God-ch8lq]

@@themilkomedanodyssey6053 ahh, a fellow soku player, (i main youmu and utsuho, what's your main) both of them were groundbreaking imo IaMP invented the conecpt of grazing and replaced footsies with projectiles soku (and SWR) added to this concept by adding flight and the deck system (which is one of the things i miss in the floaters)

[@NMGardening]

great video! it makes me stoked for the new Akuma the cowardly lion... he's gonna be my mane.

[@scyllasemusic2254]

1:46 "Calculations and reads" **Proceeds to show ChrisG's soulfist spam clip** "Sure dood"

[@IchigoVizardful]

One of your best and the most thought-provoking video ever. Been waiting for your next video over a month ago but it was worth it 👊😉. Keep up the good work man and you deserved more subs IMO.

[@CoreAGaming]

Thanks for waiting, I know they take awhile.

[@ismailsimsek332]

i actually dont know why i binge watch your videos, i dont even listen to you man but its addicting in some strange sense

[@MrSonicDoctor]

Best projectile character? Morrigan hands down. Just soul fist, soul fist, soul fist and soul fist.

[@Toomnyusernae]

Not in her debut though.

[@edfreak9001]

I still don't understand why Morrigan does decent damage on block with that.

[@Toomnyusernae]

Maybe it was an oversight that would have been fixed if Capcom kept up with the updates and patches. Stuck now.

[@edfreak9001]

Toomnyusernae If memory serves, there's a rebalanced version of USF4 you can play on PC (probably only with other people using the mod, I imagine) so maybe there's hope we can get something like that for UMvC3?

[@Toomnyusernae]

Sometimes those little quirks are better left in than get changed. I doubt Capcom and Marvel would churn out an update for the game. It's crazy enough that they've decided to do a re-release on PS4. Hopefully they'll allow for MvC2 and that Marvel Origins to return to the Psn.

[@SJNaka101]

"If someone says I'm good at something, I deny it and try to do other things" Me: Wow, you're really good at winning

[@mwoakill09]

I watch for you for your analysis, I love you for your analysis. Give me more analysis

[@monchete9934]

Nu-13 from Blazblue (RIP Drive Button). Es also has two projectiles that when they match (small window btw) they become a bigger projectile with more knockback (enough to trigger a wakeup)

[@dextrodemon]

nice stick bruv

[@CoreAGaming]

Just not-so-subtle bragging lol.

[@CureCryptic]

Can't believe a fucking Family Guy clip taught me about spacing

[@idk72.]

A clip about a kick mid boxing match taught me about frame data, and it was from this same channel

[@janderson9413]

If your opponent is spamming a move, you're spamming a mistake.

[@christophercollins3632]

What I like about you my friend, is that you manage to be hilarious, and demure at the same time. The various inserted animations I have very much enjoyed. An unexpected pleasure to be entertained so thoroughly with information and humor. I finally understood what the thumbnail to this video was representing after completing it. I must say, well done, well done. HDKN = SPAM by the way the last time I touched a joystick to a fighting game was back when streetfighter with Blanca was in the arcade. I just find this whole evolution of competitive fighting game play to be fascinating enough to want to try and understand it. This channel of yours has been a boon.

[@misstahj5651]

Morrigan from UMvC3 Kappa

[@TurnOntheBrightLights.]

Misstah J SO-SO! SO-SO! SO-SO!

[@cheef825]

wtf so annoying

[@DepressionShaman]

Fuck Morrigan! I HATE THAT BITCH! OMG so many bad memories in Capcom vs SNK 2. LOL

[@Jon-Mark_W]

Good explanations, and I always love Strange Sunset. That's one of my favorite Musical pieces on a game!

[@wamblo8966]

Worst projectile character? PK FIRE 🔥PK FIRE 🔥PK FIRE🔥 If your ptsd just got triggered, you know who I’m talking about.

[@congobongoproductions5476]

Like it isn't recognizable...

[@coyote311]

Fighting Ness is the one time where I condone child abuse!

[@Tom-jw7ii]

lol remember when sdi existed

[@lordlouie3550]

You people are bein babies... either that or Ridley (Whom I main) is really good at countering Ness... I’ll choose the former.

[@nzbg1132]

or scorpion from mortal kombat 9

[@Kastagaar]

I play Akuma because what's better than a character with a fireball? A fireball character with more fireballs.

[@opsimathics]

remember guys, when we do it, it's spamming when the pros do it, it's zoning lol

[@DrEarthwormRobotnik]

There's a difference between Zoning and Spamming. Spamming is just literally throwing out the same move without really thinking about it, whereas zoning is using fireballs for keepaway and with strategy.

[@kingkrispy5289]

Dr. Earthworm Robotnik, thing is both absolutely incinerate scrubs, one just does it faster with less brain effort required

[@MorphRed]

@@kingkrispy5289 Spamming jab

[@kingkrispy5289]

MorphRed me and the boys boutta walk at someone on their wake up then block their DP

[@yeetusthemfetus1436]

Both are a pain to deal with

[@cookerlv]

I like how unique spacie lasers are in Melee. Both Fox and Falco have projectiles which are much, much faster than a standard fireball, and they both have unique effects.

[@a_stray_dog]

Fantastic video, as per usual. I've never been a huge SF guys, but your analysis makes me appreciate it more and more every time. As for projectile characters -- Samus in SSB4. I feel like her projectile game in Melee was greatly underemphasised, and that it really started coming together in 4 (even if she IS kind of a shitty character).

[@kazumi_ssbm1968]

not to be that guy, but samus' projectiles are waaaaayyyyy waaayy more powerful in melee. Not only do her super missiles kill, but with use of missile canceling she can fire twice as many at her opponent.

[@CoreAGaming]

Yeah, this was strongly focused on SF, but I'll be mixing it up a lot in the coming videos.

[@Femil90]

smash and melee are not fighting games tbqh

[@Cunt143]

toromoreno Soup isn't a type of food tbh

[@Femil90]

correct ReviewRapeUSA

[@PAGESIXVALENTINEFARRIS]

Hazama in Cross Tag BB has some of the most dangerous projectiles in a fighting game because he can close the gap and combo you with any hit from basically full screen. He can also reposistion himself with it for mixups

[@ghus2046]

My one true projectile love is the girl from TvC that had the giant laser, bullets, and grenade. I think her name was Saku and she was the only character to have a laser in that game. Oh the spam!

[@lancemaximoff141]

Jordan H *Saki But I agree. I never played TvC, but I'd main her.

[@pnyhmsmx]

Jordan H She felt busted alright. Mina from Samurai Showdown 5 also felt busted.

[@pnyhmsmx]

Jordan H She felt busted alright. Mina from Samurai Showdown 5 also felt busted.

[@Bizzozeron]

Falco in Melee is absolutely amazing conceptually, his gun is definitely the casual killer and a really frustrating tool - but the beauty in Falco's gun is that there's no ending to it. Jumping in and firing your gun can be really stupid if your opponent just eats the hit and responds 'for free', but if your opponent has grown used to shielding the hits for whatever reason, you jumping in with the gun lets you land and get a grab - sort of like a not-empty tomahawk. It's this mindgame that really makes Falco stand out as different from Fox, among other things.

[@Micha-Hil]

2:25 it still baffles me how a family guy gag explains spacing so well

[@dexi6111]

I come back to this video just to watch that clip

[@Mickspad]

My favorite projectile character is Vatista from BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle, I know she was in UNIB, but she was a charge character in that, in BBTag she's a motion character, I love how cute she is and how damaging her projectiles are

[@thelightseeker94]

Strange Sunset nice.

[@enriquecampos8326]

2:25 LOLOLOLOL

[@Vampocrat]

One of my favorite projectile using characters has to be Dizzy in Guilty Gear, because she has so much variety to the projectiles in how each one has its own strategy to utilize, and have different purposes, making her dangerous from any range, as well as rather unpredictable.

[@DrEarthwormRobotnik]

Don't even get me started on Boss Dizzy from X.

[@hatredmalice7273]

my favorite projectile characters are usually characters that summon monsters to shoot or BECOME projectiles. there's just a charm to them.

[@Eggroll3s]

Thumbnail: *PUT ME ON A SHIRT*

[@SSM24_]

One of my favorite approaches to projectiles in fighting games is Touhou Hisoutensoku. Every character has multiple projectile attacks, and some of them can cover huge amounts of the screen at once with ease... but to compensate, your ordinary dash/run is _completely projectile invulnerable._ This creates a really cool dynamic where projectiles are allowed to be strong and diverse, but it's not suffocating because one of the best ways to avoid them is literally just running toward the opponent. It's great.

[@flerphead]

Old Sagat. Cause I'm an asshole.

[@RikouHogashi]

Alpha 1 Sagat's Tiger Uppercut is boss

[@Kreiser_VII]

I learnt to love fireballs with Cloud's Blade Beam in Smash Ultimate. Mixing up the shot between ground, midair, retreat, rush in, after engaging, it's the best to use them to create a tell for the opponent.

[@kuroshinko427]

Hey Gerald, can you do a video comparing SF vs. Tekken? A few people I know don't Like SF because of the spamming you mentioned in this video so they switch to Tekken which they feel is a better game and some people don't like tekken because it's hard and stick to simpler 2d fighters. I like your channel, keep up with the great videos!

[@7Metal7Monkey7]

Kuro Shinko I think you got that last bit mixed up

[@kmaru80]

so glad I stumbled across this channel. This is some of the most interesting content I've found in awhile. Happy new sub.

[@malikcrim13]

Deathstroke for Injustice Ryu for SF

[@robertgonzales7716]

King from the AOF and KOF series. Has the option of a double fireball, plenty of anti air to punish jumps, and has an attack for almost every range.

[@oopsiexistnow]

Belmont, I’m extremely late to the party, but Belmont

[@Clonekiller66]

My favorite projectile character has to Stryker from MK9 Because he's using such modern tools like guns and grenades. Very satisfying character too

[@coolguynotfoolguy8759]

4:30 but what if someone says that avoiding doing what someone said is a strength of Diago's?

[@josiahvock5675]

I personally like Akuma's projectile style the best because of all his alternate moves you can use to punish after a fireball, such as firing a shot then immediately going for the teleport to combo them into the shot

[@Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni]

Don't actually have a favorite Projectile character. Not because i don't like em. Grapplers just rarely have those DX

[@ShinSHOGO]

My favorite projectile character is definitely Samus in the Smash Bros series. She has that perfect mix of projectiles and close/mid-range combat tools that feels like a theoretically balanced character. Not to mention, some of her projectiles, like full Charge Shot, are immensely satisfying to hit someone with.